ot1-perplexing-regexing

[dapper dew]

The US state with the most borders, the only free entry national park, and a place with lots of natural beauty

[tardy rain]

Tennessee is where jack daniels is from

[tardy rain]

Double dipping on the last 2 but i'll allow it

[glossy niche]

whose that

[tardy rain]

Some whiskey guy idk

[dapper dew]

Also Elvis, and Dolly Parton

[tardy rain]

I just know the sauce from tgi fridays

[glossy niche]

dude people talk about elvis like hes the only fucking elvis

like everyone knows only 1 elvis

[dapper dew]

Yeah jack daniels is not a great whiskey so you aren't missing much

[glossy niche]

like every elvis is THAT elvis in every context, howd he achieve that

[dapper dew]

Being a rock star

[glossy niche]

bro is a globally defined variable

[tardy rain]

also hannah montana

[dapper dew]

true true

Nashville is the country music city (and destination for bachelorette parties in recent years), Memphis is BBQ and Elvis, Knoxville is UT football

Driving from one corner to the other takes about 7.5 hours, which is longer than what I drove down to the beach this past weekend

[grave cove]

Duality of man

[green breach]

also hannah montana

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[paper quest]

Can someone help me just make a decision?

I'm working with Elasticsearch and currently trying to transform documents I'm fetching. Our API wrapper class interface is inconsistent and therefore the documents may be returned as document source dictionaries, raw document dictionaries (including metadata) or elasticsearch-dsl Hit objects. Trying to keep the interface identical to avoid breaking things and/or having to rewrite calling code.

I've got a helper named parse_fields which looks like this (here JsonT is just a recursive type alias for what a JSON object can be):

def parse_fields(
    data: JsonT,
    *,
    fields: Iterable[str],
    parse: Callable[[JsonT], JsonT],
) -> JsonT:
    ...

This works best for document source dictionaries, but for Hit objects I'm ending up with ugly crap like this:

return [
    Hit(
        {
            **document.meta,
            "_source": parse_fields(
                document.to_dict(),
                fields=["path.to.value"],
                parse=my_parse_function,
            ),
        }
    )
    for document in response
]

I'm torn between keeping it as it is, adding additional helpers to abstract away the transformation to/from Hit objects, changing parse_fields to seamlessly deal with either dictionaries or Hit objects, or rewriting the entire thing to return consistent output and the size of the diff be damned. Help?!?

[tardy rain]

😭😭😭

I don't drink

Not whiskey anyway

[tardy rain]

When in doubt, rewrite

I promise it'll get better

One more rewrite is all you need

[dapper dew]

I'm quite literally in this picture

[vale raven]

Do you like it?

[dapper dew]

I don't dislike it, so I suppose I'm neutral on it

[tardy rain]

Im weak

Lunch in spoons

I cant say no

iykyk

For such a trashy low budget pub their chicky burger is so good

Got me hooked

[weak peak]

amen

[fierce sandal]

😭

[plush sun]

The ambivalence of man

[upper flower]

huh

ambulance of man?

[dapper dew]

.wa s ambivalence

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

mixed feelings or emotions

[glossy niche]

Microsoft teams has aa bug where after you click join it flips the mic back open on its own

I'm gonna assume it's a front end issue where the state gets reset by poorly handled async calls

which is pretty typical in FE

tho it's a rookie mistake and the fact that it happens here is so ass

[tardy rain]

You mean joining a meeting?

It used to be the case where if you joined a meeting with fewer than 5 people it would auto unmute you regardless of your preference

Ask me how i found out

I dare you, ask

[glossy niche]

nah im good

[tardy rain]

Anyway it was probably a bug thats been fixed recently

[glossy niche]

Was it:
unmute
loud fart
mute again

[tardy rain]

I dont see why they'd do it intentionally, besides straight up evil

It was
Unmute
Bunch of swearing for starting the meeting 2 minutes early
Mute

[honest star]

It still does this and I haaaate it

[tardy rain]

Those motherfuckers

I could have sworn it was fixed

Now i can never relax

[honest star]

Teams still auto-mute if there are X+ people in a meeting. But otherwise tends to default to "mic on" and it's the worst

[lament cairn]

during covid, my school was fully into microsoft's stuff, so naturally they went with teams + the rest of ms 365 stuff
i had to install a separate program to keep my mic off system-wide just in case that happened

and happen it did afair

[sharp jasper]

disable your mic with a needle
plug in your headset only when in call

(only do this if you own the device)

[jaunty wraith]

deserved tbh

[pseudo zephyr]

teams is probably the worst software microsoft makes and theres a lot of competition

[tardy rain]

whats the best tho

[pseudo zephyr]

npm? idk

[willow narwhal]

Minecraft?

I think only software they currently make counts, otherwise you have too many options from the past

[pseudo zephyr]

theyre responsible for bedrock so im not sure we can give them credit

[jovial oriole]

Crash out

[shell raptor]

I had a crazy situation a few months ago. At an intersection, one direction had flashing yellow lights and the other was green

Apparently one direction was being rewired or something like that, and they clearly haven't thought about the implications

[vale raven]

And you’re just telling us about it now?

[shell raptor]

hm?

[glossy niche]

they bought it along with its devs tho

how much Microsoft involvement is allowed for it to be counted as Microsoft produced

[hot wraith]

github? vscode?

[tardy rain]

What

[willow narwhal]

If Minecraft doesn't count, Github doesn't either.

[hot wraith]

can't say i know anything about the team behind github

all i know is it comes with a microsoft stamp

[willow narwhal]

Yeah, like Minecraft (bedrock or not)

Both were bought, not originally created by MS

VS Code is fair I guess, people seem to like it

[hot wraith]

i think it strikes a good balance, good quality of life features without being overly complex, extensions make it usable for a wide variety of languages etc.

[worthy oracle]

yea, the unadulterated version without the AI and telemetry bs

i.e. codium, the binaries of the open source part of vscode

[willow narwhal]

I mean people seem to like the version with telemetry, too

[worthy oracle]

genuinely harrowing to know that

[tardy rain]

Honestly, mods should give me banning powers

This would be my first ban

[lament cairn]

I forgot codium existed. Is there any actual difference? I configured copilot to not do anything outside of chat and telemetry is blocked via my pihole

[worthy oracle]

ai agents and all the related UIs are completely gone

[grave cove]

steam is cooked for me

[worthy oracle]

im not too bothered by the telemetry but im happier if there isnt telemetry

[worthy oracle]

ddosed

[grave cove]

pretty much what’s happening yeah

[lament cairn]

Wrong reply :p

[grave cove]

this is like top 10 most anticipated games oat

[lament cairn]

Oh wow I can't even open the web version of Steam Chat

... do they not separate their services in the backend?

Ah nvm

[worthy oracle]

probably the load balancers that got destroyed

OOM just from the number of requests that went in

[glossy niche]

it's cooked globally

lol

I wonderrrr if they do things on premise lol

[worthy oracle]

with a user base as big as steam I think they probably go with dedicated server providers all over the world

[low chasm]

silksong hype

i have class so i cant play till like 12 😔

[worthy oracle]

i feel like this could have been avoided if only team cherry went with preloading

[grave cove]

im skiping class for silksong

[glossy niche]

is the game actually big enough to need that?

how big is it?

[worthy oracle]

not the size

spreading out people downloading the game

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-what-is-that-bruh-credit-card-slam-credit-card-gif-7077673801479962294

this is me to steam rn

[glossy niche]

hmmmmm

[grave cove]

LET ME GIVE YOU MONEYYYYYY

[worthy oracle]

impulse vs momentum right?

[glossy niche]

wait I just realised

they have a status page

[worthy oracle]

unofficial

[glossy niche]

https://steamstat.us/

oh

[latent scaffold]

What if I told you my name is Steam

[grave cove]

bro is john steam

[glossy niche]

lol

[latent scaffold]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985476922559582258/1119929407969185982/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[glossy niche]

they never imagined it'd get thus low

[worthy oracle]

you know it's bad when the status tracker says they are getting DDOSed

[latent scaffold]

Well, it doesn't say that

[glossy niche]

bold of you to assume discord mobiles ui is consistend enough for this trick to work

[latent scaffold]

what if it's actually very italics of me

https://tenor.com/view/electroboom-creepy-smile-creepy-smile-happy-gif-173617150865661503

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/tgb-hello-street-cat-street-cat-check-the-gluttonous-beast-gif-13832259656104291422

[latent scaffold]

It's high noon...

[latent scaffold]

@grave cove what are your thoughts on the Angela trailer

[grave cove]

tank mains are so up

[latent scaffold]

Frankly, I'm starting to dread her release

Like

She genuinely looks more terrifying than Wolverine

[grave cove]

did we get an ability breakdown?

[latent scaffold]

https://youtu.be/WVc4uTJmKy4

[grave cove]

oh shit

[latent scaffold]

It's genuinely horrifying lol

like actually

I made a prediction that she might be able to pin people like Reinhardt from Overwatch

[grave cove]

yoo this is lit

[latent scaffold]

I didn't expect it to be that good

Don't get me wrong, she looks fun as hell

but there's no way she doesn't become a problem

[grave cove]

remember that they always make trailers look better

many such cases

[latent scaffold]

Her flight is infinite, which I didn't expect

[grave cove]

people thought pheonix was going to be S++++ tier permabanned from the trailer

[latent scaffold]

She can displace people a CRAZY distance basically for free

and her health is one of the higher pools and she's still got a decent shield

[grave cove]

im instalocking this shit

[latent scaffold]

lol

She really does look super fun but yeah idk we'll have to see

[grave cove]

we really do

the trailer is not always accurate

[latent scaffold]

I agree, but I've never felt so horrified watching a character trailer

Even Phoenix I figured wasn't going to be too crazy

Her displacement is on a 3 second cooldown lol

Granted, it's on a resource meter

Just imagine the hell that Thor + Angela + Wolverine + Invisible Woman could unleash loll

Infinite space

[grave cove]

holy cc

[latent scaffold]

like, do you even need to win fights of you can literally just constantly push people back

Throw in a Mister Fantastic, even and like dear God

[grave cove]

full dive team might cook them

[latent scaffold]

Wait did you see the new BP team-up

I'm actually so annoyed that they thought that kinda team-up was a good idea

[grave cove]

bp remains permabanned

[latent scaffold]

Well, he is getting nerfed again

Maybe this time they did it right

[grave cove]

it was an hp nerf

thats all i think

300 -> 275, as it should've been

[latent scaffold]

wtf

Well

[grave cove]

theres absolutely no reason for a low ttk ambush diver to have 300 hp

[latent scaffold]

I agree but also

Luna...

[grave cove]

good thing shes also getting nerfed

[latent scaffold]

True

I think they're cutting her ult duration in half or something, right?

[grave cove]

im actually quite happy with this round of balance changes, expect for cap nerf

[grave cove]

no way it'll be half

most likely like 2 or 3 second nerf

[latent scaffold]

I heard it was getting changed to 6 seconds but I suppose we take that with a grain of salt

[grave cove]

nah i cant imagine that

thats even less than ultron ult

[grave cove]

also loki nerf

i think the big reason why loki was so op was because luna was op

luna nerf is an indirect loki nerf

[latent scaffold]

https://fixupx.com/X0X_LEAK/status/1963309296550056060

X0XLEAK (@X0X_LEAK)

Upcoming Season 4 Balance changes:
︀︀
︀︀BUFFS
︀︀- Scarlet Witch
︀︀- Peni Parker
︀︀- Invisible Woman
︀︀- Thor
︀︀- Blade
︀︀- Dr. Strange
︀︀- Moon Knight
︀︀- Ultron
︀︀- Jeff the Landshark
︀︀
︀︀NERFS
︀︀- Luna Snow
︀︀- Emma Frost
︀︀- Black Panther
︀︀- Captain America
︀︀- Loki
︀︀- Squirrel Girl…

FixupX · Sep 3, 2025, 6:33 PM

[grave cove]

like why are we deadass nerfing cap for the 4th time in a row bro

[latent scaffold]

I suspect he's going to get a small rework

His kit kinda stinks

[grave cove]

im pretty sure he has the 2nd highest winrate among tanks

he was also pick or ban in the tournaments i think

[latent scaffold]

yeah and Mantis has the highest win rate period, but y'know

[grave cove]

true

i do think cap is fairly oppressive in lower elos

[latent scaffold]

We'll have to see how they even nerf him tbh

I can see maybe a movement speed reduction

he's like an unkillable menace sometimes

[grave cove]

i could get behind that i guess

[latent scaffold]

It's the survivability that they keep nerfing

[grave cove]

the survivability is what makes him him, yknow

[latent scaffold]

anyway

I'm mostly interested in the buffs

[grave cove]

strange might be back on the menu

[latent scaffold]

I've been playing a lot of some of the characters getting buffed

[grave cove]

in particular?

[latent scaffold]

Tbh I don't think Thor needs another buff

[grave cove]

nah he for sure does

thor is straight buns rn

[latent scaffold]

but Scarlet Witch, Blade, Ultron, and Jeff

[latent scaffold]

Idk I feel like he's been great this past season

I kinda figured the team-up with Angela would be enough to put him over the edge

[grave cove]

i'd say he's better than ever but still not "great"

[latent scaffold]

Also, Invisible Woman buffs could be interesting

I don't really mind her kit, I just hate how little damage she does

Like, people will say she's good against dive, but can't really fend for herself

I push em, now what

[grave cove]

yeah you pretty much just have to go invisible and hide

[latent scaffold]

Jeff could be another interesting one

I don't really know what they could possibly do to buff him

I hope it's the bubbles

I miss instant healing so badly

but I think they said it was his ult they're buffing

Presumably just making it taller or something silly

[latent scaffold]

@grave cove https://fixupx.com/mmmmmmmmiller/status/1963641830349930708

Miller Ross (@mmmmmmmmiller)

x.com/i/article/1963636984355680256

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FixupX · Sep 4, 2025, 4:34 PM

I'm not done reading but these are crazy

Jeff now has a support ult

It's Jeff! (Ultimate Ability) now leaves an 8m radius Healing Pool at the point of activation that heals allies within range by 100/s. Healing Pool lasts for 8s.

[grave cove]

sheesh

kinda wild

Seol Hee's Ultimate Ability duration is getting cooled down. (See, we do nerf her!)

luna “industry plant” snow gets some much needed nerfs

also doesnt this make strange the tank with the lowest health pool?

[latent scaffold]

yes lol

unless you count banner

[grave cove]

making a frontline shield tank have 575 hp is diabolical

[latent scaffold]

that's my area code too

[grave cove]

lmao

[drowsy rose]

@twin pollen personally i dont understand this in one of your blog posts
https://brassnet.biz/blog/pay-for-things.html

why exactly? i get wanting to benefit the small companies, but i refuse to pay a dime to google/meta etc.

just because you pay money

doesnt mean companies wont turn around and sell your data anyway

[twin pollen]

I pay google, and have pretty much since they got rid of the free tier of what is now 'workspaces'. While I would love to migrate my family off of that it is a hell of a lot to unwind. I also use YouTube TV because it is the best solution for my family for TV. I do not use anything from Meta. I have started to prefer paid services to free ones to the extent possible.

[late orchid]

some would argue to just stop using Google / Meta / Microsoft services altogether

for small services I can agree with the sentiment but yeah... paying Google is not going to make them stop collecting your data

[drowsy rose]

that was an example :p

google doesn't care that you're paying them, they'll still keep collecting your data

i'd recommend watching cory doctorow's pycon speech :p

https://youtu.be/ydVmzg_SJLw

the idea that "because you paid [big tech company], they wont sell your data!!" is dumb, because why wouldnt they? they'll give you features, and pocket that money along with whatever they make from your data because why wouldnt they?

ultimately (and is also covered within the talk), this arises from a lack of competition and regulation

[twin pollen]

I was in the room.

[ebon shell]

thats cool

[jovial oriole]

Post workout snack

[thick osprey]

Aren't you allowed flavor post-workout?

[uneven pine]

Hello I'm new here how do I make GTA 7 in python with turtle chatgpt and pygame?

[glossy niche]

#python-discussion

[cerulean mica]

@obtuse hare as u can see, they are sorta of grouped by color

the white is beginner land for people learning the language

5-6 aka yellow would be easy

[uneven pine]

Lol

[carmine apex]

wolfie has returned

[uneven pine]

Indeed she has

Iunch time

I finally got tired of dealing with networked audio

[obtuse hare]

alrightly thanks man

[latent scaffold]

no way me too

[uneven pine]

Hello

[acoustic moss]

jus gotta kick out thuri and we are back to good old 2021 pydis

[vale raven]

Wholly on board with that

!bam @carmine apex

[glossy niche]

piping curl into jq surprisingly isnt terrible

im using bash for the file handling, which bash isnt terrible at, its surprisingly not shit

[grave cove]

well that IS one of the intended use cases

[glossy niche]

developers very often intend things and very seldom deliver 🗿

but yeah it works neat

[grave cove]

management moment

[uneven pine]

Nah that's so real lmao

[tardy rain]

jq is great

[vale raven]

Pydantic is greater

[glossy niche]

1 binary vs p*thon and its shitty dependencies

things i like about pydantic: the whole thing
things i dont like about it: the first 2 letters of its name

[lyric forge]

@worldly mortar to your last message, we're in the realm of speculation now ofc :p
overall i just think that's an interesting idea too, although one question i have about it is that, as far as i've known, practical/classical physics and quantum physics don't exist separately from one another - in this sense, the "everything is quantum" statement is true

[worldly mortar]

well i like to think of it that quantum objects have quantum properties such as randomness, and by linking them together they lose the quantum properties through linking, but also gain emergent properties that follow a seperate set of deterministic rules

quantum fields are still deterministic in relation to measurement, but at a larger sclae the meausrements behave differently

consider a deeply nested function inside a function etc. each function has a memoised cache of actions as well as an internal "measurement" program it can run
each step it can either take in deterministic rules and process deterministic outputs, or it can be measured and apply the new nesting structure, potentially calling more processes in a hierarchical cache system, and with relation to physics, this would be like the system behaving according to deterministic rules, or being measured and having its cache altered

(idk if that made much sense)

[latent scaffold]

didn't take you for a Junker Queen main

[lyric forge]

i am half following :p

the nature of measurement seems to matter for this

but it is something we truly don't understand yet

i'd go as far as to say we don't even truly know if it's random

like, in the sense of the multiverse, there's no randomness, because it's not a single possibility that happens - all of them happen

so it is "deterministic"

[worldly mortar]

i like to believe that the process causing quantum ohysics indetermination is caused by the same thing that causes the wave particle duality

and that it is not a particle but just two wave frrquencies / ampl8tudes overlapping
i.e. the ultra high frequency low amp wave is the direction and the ultra low freq high amp wave is the location

and the more you pinpoint the location, the harder it is to poinpoint a hugh freq wave point as well, and vice versa

[lyric forge]

i like to believe that the process causing quantum ohysics indetermination is caused by the same thing that causes the wave particle duality

i agree, and the same issue as measurement

the only time that we think things are particles are when we measure them

and that is also the only time we get randomness

[glossy niche]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

💀💀💀
💀💀💀
💀💀💀
💀💀💀

speaking from my exp, do not

[jovial oriole]

Yo what is up with this?

something about copyright

[bleak lintel]

nah it's separate to that

[bleak lintel]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/why-are-facebook-instagram-ending-news-access-canada-2023-06-26/

Fairly sure it's that

[vale raven]

I suppose that makes sense

[bleak lintel]

something something late stage capitalism

illogical and unnecessary laws being imposed

yadayada

[vale raven]

Don’t they deserve to be paid for their work?

Whoever “news people” are defined as here

[bleak lintel]

that's a leap to take from the justifications of that law

coming from someone who is from a family of journalists, the model for that exists, it's called subscriptions and works the same way now as it does 40 years ago, the avenues are just different

[vale raven]

I just read the headline that says they need to be paid

[bleak lintel]

the "legacy media" here is papers being sad that they can't break news in the same way the could decades ago

[vale raven]

Yeah, WSJ and NYT always tries to demand I subscribe

[bleak lintel]

broadsheet papers used to be able to shock nations with their front pages, and now they can't do that, and a lot of them never really understood the internet business

to be fair, I subscribe to NYT and The Telegraph online and I get one physical paper every day of the week based on who I think produces the best reads for that day

and there is still a population who does that, it's just much smaller and a lot of the papers aren't really exploring what comes next for them once that becomes an untenable service to provide

[vale raven]

If I ever get a subscription to news it will be these people
https://ground.news/

[bleak lintel]

yeah I did see that before -- last I checked I didn't feel I was getting my moneys worth from the subscription, it might have changed now

there's something special about reading a paper and having the stories be actually curated rather than being driven to news solely based off what is trending and what is sensationalist

[vale raven]

I just want the little bias meter
My dumb brain just takes what people say at face value and gets confused when people have different opinions later

[bleak lintel]

it's quite relaxing to go from some foreign affairs nightmare on the front page to a column on fishing or a spread about the history of devolution

[vale raven]

Wait, isn’t sensationalism exactly what newspapers do?

That’s what the front page is

[bleak lintel]

yes, but as you continue reading it's considerably less sensationalist

and it's a different type really

there's a difference between sensationalist as in "holy shit this is breaking news we've got to get this up in 4 minutes without checking all the facts" and a cover sheet that had to be edited the night before and sent through rounds of editors and subeditors and then get to the printers and then reach the shelves

of course it's sensationalist and is still designed to catch your eye, but it's generally done in a way that still actually presents a much larger amount of factual information

[vale raven]

Can’t edit printed paper later

[vale raven]

Untenable as in too costly to print physical newspapers?

[bleak lintel]

which gives a much better reason to get it right the first time around

[bleak lintel]

as in people aren't buying them enough to have it be a profitable business

[vale raven]

I assumed we were already there

I can’t remember the last time I saw a newspaper

[bleak lintel]

the amount of apologies issued from online publications vs newspapers is astonishingly different as you might expect

[bleak lintel]

not in UK at least, and not in the larger American cities last time I was there

most convenience stores in the UK sell the papers, then there are newsagents and supermarkets who will sell them, and then stands in the larger cities

last time I was in NYC, LA, SF, Seattle and Austin there were definitely easily accessible newspapers

I have pictures of American papers so I must've got them somehow

[vale raven]

Damn you’re well traveled

I live here and I’ve been to one of those places

[bleak lintel]

in fairness LA, SF and Seattle was one trip

[carmine apex]

any organization that does sponsorships for youtube videos is, as far as i'm concerned, probably trash

[vale raven]

Sounds like you’re going to be pretty high up on the bias meter

How dare a marketing team run their ads on one of the most successful platforms in the world???

They should be relegating themselves to Truth Social!

[acoustic moss]

wut

[carmine apex]

fine. i shall slightly lessen statement

[thick ore]

i love how you can just download the entirety of english wikipedia for ~100gb

[carmine apex]

that's only text, though

[thick ore]

i think this one contains pictures as well

because the one with no pictures is labeled with _nopic

[carmine apex]

huh, so it does. idk why wikimedia is among the places offering them, though

also, apparently wiki commons, where all the images reside, sums to 745 terabytes

[glossy niche]

kiwix?

[thick ore]

yep

[glossy niche]

ok but a lot of those are unused

and not all used ones are used on a wiki

and not all wiki ones are on the english wiki

[glossy niche]

neat for internet outages lol

[lament schooner]

I think someone in our small county has to download it,
we might get into a bad war, Iran vs everyone

[glossy niche]

you can download it yourself right now

https://kiwix.org/en/

[lament schooner]

I know, but wifi is slow, and mobile data is expensive for 111gb

[glossy niche]

hmmmmmmm, steal from university wifi ig

[lament schooner]

two years remaining to unlock university

[thick ore]

you don't need to download the 111gb version

[lament schooner]

how much is the nopic?

[thick ore]

there is a ~50gb version that doesn't include pictures

[thick ore]

since you mentioned you live in iran, the persian version is 12gb with pictures and 4.4gb without

have a look for yourself https://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia/

[lament schooner]

someone made a bot and added all villages in iran to it 😂

thanks ❤️

[glossy niche]

ok counter point, non english wikipedia isnt great

id suggest you get the english ones

[lament schooner]

there probably isn't much knowledge in it

[glossy niche]

then machine translate to farsi

[thick ore]

yea that

[lament cairn]

is there really no better compressed version

[lament schooner]

idk

[lament cairn]

how much does it decompress to i might try recompressing it with like

7zip lzma or zstd

[glossy niche]

cmon bro 111gb is like an indie game in 2025 🥀

[thick ore]

openzim is compressed with usually lzma or zstd

[lament schooner]

😭

[plush sun]

I mean, until you decompress it

I recently downloaded all enWP titles

105 MB compressed, 406 MB decompressed

[glossy niche]

yuh text compresses a lot

and the photos are usually no bigger than 250px if you download only the thumbnails

[quasi blaze]

Producers, you can make Python scripts in FL Studio. Neat!

[uneven pine]

Yep

Never found a use for it so far lol

[jovial oriole]

💔🥀

[fair cedar]

wassup mfs

[fair cedar]

<@&831776746206265384> fuck you

[solid elbow]

!ban 1372503271289126932 low effort troll

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @fair cedar permanently.

[fierce sandal]

bro isn't mindful of his actions

[upper flower]

"low effort troll" lmao

[latent scaffold]

do high effort trolls get banned too

[uneven pine]

They do not

[timid latch]

🐧

[ornate pasture]

👋

[timid latch]

But yeah best distro depends on why you want Linux.

[ornate pasture]

@sage veldt I understand thanks for sharing. Do you have examples of specific bloat that comes with distros other than Mint?

[timid latch]

If you just want something to just work then mint and similar.
If you want to customize stuff from the start then arch/NixOs/etc
If you want to run on low end hardware then there's distros specialized in that.
Etc

[ornate pasture]

I never had the feeling my ubuntu was bloated, so I wouldn't know what difference to look for If I'd had to try Mint today for example

[sage veldt]

nope sorry, just try to stay away from ubuntu lol (if it isnt some ubuntu spinoff like kubuntu or something), try experimenting and seeing which OS you like for a week, people tend to recommend debian/nixOS/arch/mint

research those

and see if maybe you like them

[ornate pasture]

Will do that for sure, just wanted to know what specific components or app you coinsider bloat in other distros

[shell raptor]

I'm on Fedora and I don't have a lot of complains, it seems to just work. ||even audio||

[ornate pasture]

Like, I could understand if you consider Gnome slow compared to other DEs

[sage veldt]

oh yeah fedora is a GREAT distro

pop-os is good for beginners

[thick ore]

i moved from fedora to mint just because of the driver manager and software manager guis

[woeful phoenix]

The main thing people don't like about Ubuntu these days is the whole Snap thing. Besides that, it isn't bloated compared to any other mainstream end-user distro. I even reckon that Mint preinstalls more apps than Ubuntu.

[upper flower]

the only complaint about fedora i had was its software installer thingy being buggy on gnome

[shell raptor]

You mean the OS installer? Or the Software program?

[upper flower]

like the market place to install softwares

[shell raptor]

oh yeah, this is satan's work

just ignore it

[ornate pasture]

I agree Snaps can be annoying yes. Any of you running Hyperland? I'm super curious, but I fear I will get habits I cannot transfer to the work Macs :/

[sage veldt]

gulpp

[upper flower]

i changed to pop os lol

[meager sphinx]

this is so shit , at least on ubuntu , the snap package manager

[shell raptor]

I remember trying to update the system to the next version through this program and it just freezing to death

[woeful phoenix]

@sage veldt there is a difference. Mint does not support or test GNOME on its platform, may not keep up with GNOME releases in its repositories, and is overall configured for a Cinnamon desktop. Things will probably break or be unconfigured in subtle ways, and might break further every major upgrade.

I tried to install some KDE apps when I was using Mint Xfce. They hadn't updated their KDE packageset in years.

[meager sphinx]

i had installed discord via the app store and everytime i had to update it , it wont install so i would have to delete and then reinstall , it was really a pain in the ass , should have just went with website download

[sage veldt]

soooo would you say for GNOME i should just install fedora?

or whats the most recommended GNOME distro for a newbie like me

[shell raptor]

I'm just using Discord from the browser. The "desktop application" is a website anyway

[thick ore]

yes

[shell raptor]

but a Firefox tab shouldn't be able to execute arbitrary code on my computer if the application programmers are not very good

[woeful phoenix]

Same, I'm not sure what benefit I get from installing it other than the activity "rich presence" integration maybe?

[thick ore]

fedora is the best distro if you want gnome

as it's practically the flagship

[woeful phoenix]

Fedora is a good choice yeah

[sage veldt]

is fedora good for a total beginner like me?

[upper flower]

pop os is also good :3

[meager sphinx]

i like having an app dedicated to it , i dont like having it in a browser xd

[shell raptor]

yeah, "playing sgt-puzzles for 16 hours" is not worth it for all the downsides and the need to update it manually on some systemes

[thick ore]

if you have an nvidia gpu probably not

[thick osprey]

"shouldn't" putting in some heavy lifting in this statement.

[sage veldt]

nah its a laptop

lol this is all happening on a windows 11 trashy laptop

[thick ore]

laptops can still have nvidia gpus

[shell raptor]

I mean, actual browsers are pretty well sandboxed. If they're not it's a gigantic vulnerability

[ornate pasture]

pop-os looks like the most windows-like distro out there

[shell raptor]

that was in reference to electron having more access to a computer than a normal browser tab

[meager sphinx]

i mean if your browser is compromised you have bigger thnigs to worry about than discord devs doing something malicious xd

[latent scaffold]

"Windows-like" is barely a thing when it comes to any distro

[sage veldt]

"most" windows-like

[latent scaffold]

99% of the time, it's the DE that kinda looks Windows-y

[meager sphinx]

i mean just use windows if it does what u want

[latent scaffold]

but that's not really distro-specific

[ornate pasture]

100%, just talking about the looks. And it's good, it can bring more people from windows to linux

[latent scaffold]

ehh

It takes a lot more to get people to switch

but when they do decide to switch, DE is the first thing they see

[round pendant]

its not only the looks, but the ideology of mostly using GUI apps to do stuff with the computer

[latent scaffold]

I think when certain distros advertise themselves as being "beginner-friendly", it feels a little disingenuous

because the reality is... Most of the distros do the same things, it's just other distros don't advertise those aspects

When it comes to Pop!_OS, I really struggle to find any concrete pros anymore

It used to be that Pop!_OS would automatically install NVIDIA drivers and stuff, but Ubuntu does that now, too

[woeful phoenix]

they're developing their own DE, now

[turbid oyster]

chat I MIGHT be on meth

[latent scaffold]

I assume you mean Cosmic

[turbid oyster]

I got Fortnite to run on linux

holy shit this is peak

fuck it crashed

[ornate pasture]

Do you guys also run linux for work? I'm always a bit wary to learn too much of a distro becaeuse then skills are hardly transferable to the work Mac

[latent scaffold]

I kinda heard COSMIC came as a response to a bit of a spat System 76 was having with GNOME upstream

[woeful phoenix]

who hasn't had a spat with GNOME upstream lol

[turbid oyster]

Mac has basically the same shell as Linux, they both have zsh

but not all binaries from Linux are in Mac

[latent scaffold]

something something System 76 did a lot of in-house changes and never contributed them, but I might have that story all wrong

[ornate pasture]

sure but the way you manage your whole DE while developping on linux is complex to transfer to Mac

[turbid oyster]

Because you cant change your DE on Mac

[latent scaffold]

well, the caveat here is that not all distros come with zsh by default

of course, little of what you're doing on macOS is going to be zsh-specific

[woeful phoenix]

I struggle to think of any that do, actually

[turbid oyster]

True, but most shells are interchangeable

[latent scaffold]

I think it's some of the "user-friendly" distros that do

the smaller ones

maybe like Manjaro does

[turbid oyster]

I don't use gnome because it's slow on my main laptop, i7 3rd gen lol

But on my main rig I use fedora

[latent scaffold]

tbh it's a bit annoying to use anything other than GNOME on Fedora

[turbid oyster]

It's a rack server I got from me uncle

Loud af

[ornate pasture]

Yup I know that. My trick so far has been to use i3 on linux, and something that gets close to it on Mac, like yabai or aerospace

[turbid oyster]

I never used Mac tbh

[latent scaffold]

I've had to use macOS 'cause someone contributed a Mac mini for a project I was working on

[woeful phoenix]

I don't think they were shipping modified GNOME sources, more like they were preinstalling their extensions. And they just felt that they were being restricted by only being able to make extensions to GNOME, and having those extensions break every update. It's not like GNOME upstream wanted that functionality themselves.

[ornate pasture]

Ah you're lucky, I would love to also work from Linux

[turbid oyster]

import sys

def container_size(container):
  return sys.getsizeof(container)

# fyi this sill probably crash your system
def analyze_containers(sizes=(0, 10, 100, 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000, 10000000, 100000000, 1000000000)):
  results = { 'list': [], 'tuple': [], 'set': [], 'dict': [] }
  for n in sizes:
    data = list(range(n))
    containers = {
      'list': list(data),
      'tuple': tuple(data),
      'set': set(data),
      'dict': {i: None for i in data},
    }
    for name, c in containers.items():
      total = container_size(c)
      per_item = total / n if n else total
      results[name].append((n, total, per_item))
  return results

def print_results(results):
  for name, measurements in results.items():
    print(f"\n{name.upper()} efficiency:")
    total_bytes = 0
    total_items = 0
    for n, total, per_item in measurements:
      print(f"  n={n:<5} total={total:<8} bytes  per-item≈{per_item:.2f}")
      total_bytes += total
      total_items += n if n else 0
    if total_items > 0:
      overall_per_item = total_bytes / total_items
      print(f"  >>> Overall avg per-item ≈ {overall_per_item:.2f} bytes")

if __name__ == "__main__":
  results = analyze_containers()
  print_results(results)```

it crashed my pc lol

[latent scaffold]

It was probably a lot of things, I don't remember any of the specifics

I remember reading an argument either on a forum or a pull request or something

I wish I could find it but idek what to look up lol

[latent scaffold]

btw ironically this experience was so like bad that it's my #1 reason for being a bit of a macOS hater

I literally could not figure out how to "uninstall" stuff lol

turns out uninstalling isn't really a thing, there's only deleting

[ornate pasture]

when you remove all the ui gestures and shit it can feel better

[sage veldt]

um guys how do i install fedora on mint now 😅

[turbid oyster]

what are you saying 😭

look

[latent scaffold]

me holding down a button to try and figure out how to uninstall stuff
(the icons just start wiggling at me, as if to taunt me)

[sage veldt]

well my laptop has mint installed

and

[turbid oyster]

just install gnome

[sage veldt]

i wanna install fedora

instead of mint

[latent scaffold]

Fedora = distro
Mint = distro
you do not install distros within distros

[turbid oyster]

make sure everything that is important to you is saved in another drive than your main and boot drives

[turbid oyster]

qemu

[sage veldt]

yall got my question wrong entirely

fuck this

[latent scaffold]

oh

[sage veldt]

i meant

how can i

delete mint

install fedora

[latent scaffold]

well if you mean to replace your distro

[meager sphinx]

let me introduce you to virtualbox

[woeful phoenix]

does it also have Windows? is there any important data on Mint that you would like to preserve? would you like to preserve the Mint install itself?

[turbid oyster]

refer to my reply

[sage veldt]

yes

[latent scaffold]

you can probably do that with the installer for Fedora

just installing over Mint

[sage veldt]

nope i wiped my drive clean of windows, theres no data on mint, i just installed a clean install of mint and decided maybe fedora would be a better pick for a newbie like me

[latent scaffold]

the GUI installers usually have a built-in partition manager or something similar

even Windows does

[turbid oyster]

alright then, get a usb

install ventoy to it

[woeful phoenix]

yeah then just put the Fedora ISO on the USB like you did for Mint, and the process is basically the same.

[turbid oyster]

get the fedora iso

[latent scaffold]

yeah, just install Fedora as you did Mint

it's really just that simple, especially if there's nothing on the drive you need/want to save

[turbid oyster]

did he use rufus or ventoy

[meager sphinx]

also what makes fedora easier for a beginner over mint , im not sure

[turbid oyster]

gnome

thats about it

[sage veldt]

btw with the different package format do i just
sudo dnf install (package) or whats up

[woeful phoenix]

(the partition manager in Fedora's installer used to be unbelievably bad, but I tried it recently and they've completely overhauled it. it's really nice now)

[sage veldt]

or do i just keep mint for now

[turbid oyster]

yeah

[latent scaffold]

y'know someone told me that Ventoy kinda breaks SELinux

[turbid oyster]

you can just do dnf help if youre stuck

[sage veldt]

actually let me try out mint for a week or two

then ima come back to fedora

[turbid oyster]

false info, used it a multitude of times and never had any issues

[turbid oyster]

👍

[lament cairn]

i installed fedora with ventoy on a hard drive(!!!) and it didnt break selinux for me

[latent scaffold]

tbf, I have no idea if any of us know what breaking SELinux even means

'cause I sure don't

[turbid oyster]

only place I see SELinux being mentioned is XDA

[latent scaffold]

I just remember getting a little yelled at one time in the openSUSE Discord

[turbid oyster]

less secure installation

SELinux literally means security enhanced Linux

[round pendant]

this benchmark doesnt make much sense, atleast the "per item" and "overall average per item" stat
just go into the source code if you want to know the actual characteristics

[woeful phoenix]

how would Ventoy break SELinux after installation?
I don't get the mechanism

[turbid oyster]

yeah the total amount of bytes is what matters

[round pendant]

this is severely affected by the growth pattern. the amount of bytes is the same for 100_000 as it is for, say, 162_144, because mutable collections overallocate to get O(1) ammortized appends

[turbid oyster]

care to elaborate?

[turbid oyster]

same here

[latent scaffold]

oh, it might be just for persistence

https://github.com/ventoy/backend/issues/4

[turbid oyster]

oh yeah

[turbid oyster]

I use persistence on an external HDD and never had any issues

rufus glazers would do anything to prevent multi-iso drives

[woeful phoenix]

https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/874 that is a wild screenshot 💀 nearly NSFW

[latent scaffold]

tbf, I heard this from someone who doesn't even use Windows

[latent scaffold]

oh good lord

what's worse is how much I want to wipe down that screen

[turbid oyster]

how do you even fiund this 💀

[woeful phoenix]

I was just reading the linked issues from that first Ventoy issue...

[latent scaffold]

do you see the part of the screen where there's no dust

you can tell someone just wiped their finger across there lol

I did actually know that Ventoy can break certain things

but it's more of a rare issue

some offline installers fetch packages from your USB, and can't do that when installed with Ventoy

[sage veldt]

i wonder if people rice on linux mint

[latent scaffold]

people rice on every distro

because they can

[round pendant]

https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/search/?q=mint&cId=a488dbbe-9daf-4f90-a5a1-c1d1633d5daa&iId=d4549ccf-9a3b-48cb-992f-2591b4b3a3be

[sage veldt]

now i wanna make my mint look cool too

[latent scaffold]

it's not something that's specific to like Arch or anything

[sage veldt]

thank you lambda

very cool

[latent scaffold]

literally absolutely nothing stopping you lol

[sage veldt]

yeah those rices look very cool

[latent scaffold]

oh this is interesting

apparently Ventoy can break certain kernel cmdline parameters

'cause it does its own manipulations of them

[sage veldt]

hey what the flip why is my laptop still slow on linux mint!!!

[latent scaffold]

so like if for whatever reason you need something like nomodeset, there's a decent enough chance you're just out of luck

[turbid oyster]

????????? go test

[latent scaffold]

lol no thanks

I did have it break many times on openSUSE though

I use Ventoy btw I'm not trying to get people to stop using Ventoy

[turbid oyster]

ik ik

[sage veldt]

discord on linux is so wonky

i might just have to use the web client

[latent scaffold]

how's it wonky?

I haven't had issues in years tbh

[sage veldt]

idk for me it crashes like every 5 seconds

[latent scaffold]

uhh

[sage veldt]

i mean like network crash

like it just goes to the loading screen

[latent scaffold]

well that sounds more like a sideeffect of something else being broken tbh

what distro is this again

[sage veldt]

mint

[latent scaffold]

not a clue

I suppose there's always something like Vesktop

I've heard it works better on Linux for some people

[sage veldt]

by the way do linux users also get virusses?

[round pendant]

its possible, but usually happens in different ways from windows
on linux you mostly use trusted open source software, but some packages can get infected and then, well, hope you dont have the infected version, and then you dont install/update them until the issue is fixed
obviously if you download a random executable from the internet it can still be malware

[shell raptor]

A few years ago I accidentally installed a malicious PyPI package. I was saved by the fact that it was only designed to work on Windows

[sage veldt]

alright im liking linux so far

[latent scaffold]

I used to be a Linux shill

now I just use Windows

blissful existence

[thick ore]

why

[sage veldt]

goat?

[woeful phoenix]

that wallpaper is cool

[sage veldt]

ikr

[thick ore]

"hey what's the arch linux command to remove unused packages"
"sudo pacman -Rns $(pacman -Qdtq)"
"oh okay"

who the hell decided that was fine

[solemn tulip]

the stuff on the rhs looks so out of place

[sage veldt]

rhs?

[solemn tulip]

right hand side

[sage veldt]

o yea

no i just added it in to track my cpu/ram usage

since this is a laptop i havent really used

[woeful phoenix]

you can expand them into long options
but because normal tasks in pacman need multiple flags unlike other package managers, most users write and communicate using the short forms
like -Syu can be --sync --refresh --upgrade, but that's really long compared to update && upgrade that other package managers have

[thick ore]

how do you explain Qdtq

and why is -S uppercase

[solemn tulip]

the uppercase one is the main mode

-Q is query

-R is remove

-S stands for "sync" iirc

[woeful phoenix]

--query --deps --unrequired --quiet

[sage veldt]

holy shit bro this laptops cpu gets to 100% real fast, any tips? its a celeron intel cpu

[latent scaffold]

It's always made me laugh how like unreadable pacman flags are

one man's dist-upgrade is another man's -Syu

[willow narwhal]

If the main modes would just be subcommands it might be easier to read.

pacman remove -ns, pacman query -dtq, ...

[latent scaffold]

"dup" if you're cool

[thick ore]

what if sudo pacman autoremove

or sudo pacman prune

[solemn tulip]

meanwhile apt-get has like 3 different upgrade commands

[lament cairn]

what

upgrade, dist-upgrade and...?

[willow narwhal]

full-upgrade

[lament cairn]

oh full-upgrade

yea

isnt full-upgrade an alias for dist-upgrade anyway in modern apt versions

or like

they do the same thjg

[solemn tulip]

dselect-upgrade apparently exists

[turbid oyster]

send me ur wallpaper pls 🙏

[solemn tulip]

pacman has just -Su plus some flags to add behavior or whatnot

e.g. the -y flag syncs the db first

and those two compose

like -y is a sync local package db, -u is upgrade using the local db, -uy syncs the db and upgrades

[latent scaffold]

tbf I'm mostly coming from openSUSE and we've really only got zypper update, zypper dist-upgrade, and uh... I think that's it lol

[solemn tulip]

what are the semantics of those?

[latent scaffold]

update is for singular packages

dist-upgrade basically just updates your repos (and updates your packages)

I think on Leap it's a different story

[solemn tulip]

ok, all of those are part of the sync command in pacman

-S pkg1 pkg2 install/upgrade specific packages
-u effectively adds all out of date packages as targets

and it composes, so you could upgrade all packages and install some additional ones

it's pretty well designed imo

[uneven pine]

alias brick-os="pacman -Syu"

[turbid oyster]

real

[round pendant]

this only bricked me once in 2 years, was because new nvidia drivers were incompatible with a new kernel version

[sage veldt]

errored on hello world 🔥

[upper flower]

ur code is right the error is smth else though i cant tell what cuz the text is in a different language

[uneven pine]

Ah

Gundswehrt ahen kastewelt spielen Python nolakt APPDATA

[solemn tulip]

do you actually have python installed?

it complains that it can't find the executable

[jaunty wraith]

that command looks like it was generated by VS Code's run button

[sage veldt]

i do

my vs code is just bugging

[solemn tulip]

at that path?

[sage veldt]

im.. just gonna install pycharm

[jaunty wraith]

it'd be weird if it did that without there being Python there

[latent scaffold]

it thinks you have Python 3.13 installed at a certain path

but clearly you do not lol

[sage veldt]

erroring hello world must be an achievement of some sort

[jaunty wraith]

did you select the interpreter in VS Code?

[solemn tulip]

it's easy to error anything if it's trying to run an executable that doesn't exist

[sage veldt]

doesnt matter now i just installed pycharm

its for learning python only anyways, ill probably likely maybe possibly perhaps i dunno fix vscode later on

[jaunty wraith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn tulip]

(this is why I unironically recommend getting used to running python from a terminal)

[sage veldt]

gulp

[solemn tulip]

less magic, less layers of bs that can go wrong

[latent scaffold]

tbf it's not really an error with your code

[sage veldt]

bro wtf

pycharm doesnt find an interpreter

i JUST installed python 3.13.7

[outer parcel]

yo

skibidi toilet

is any broski into chess?

[latent scaffold]

or did you?

go to your installation folder

[outer parcel]

we should make a gamma cult @fossil hatch

[latent scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-oh-yeah-smile-gif-25692358

[sage veldt]

bro can you please help me

i downloaded python

but the download folder

isnt showing up in program files

nevermind pycharm somehow found my interpreter

where have i gone wrong in my life

[latent scaffold]

well, you don't have a variable named bro

you probably wanted a string, whose value is "bro"

[sage veldt]

bro is the value of the variable first_name

[latent scaffold]

it thinks bro is the name of another variable

if you want a string, you need to wrap it in quotes

[sage veldt]

thanks

i just noticed

hello, world

[latent scaffold]

there's a difference between x = y and x = "y"

[latent scaffold]

hello

[mossy mango]

hello

[worldly ice]

I saw two different species of squirrel fighting over a tree today

one was a small black one, and the other was a large brown with with an extremely bushy tail

and the big one was chasing the little one around in circles on the tree

until the little one finally left

[mossy mango]

aww

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/1fn4hgMkfCQ?si=

chat I need more query languages

I need more

[lofty latch]

Is it another Prolog/Datalog dialect?

[glossy niche]

ayup

[carmine apex]

google, huh? so when are they gonna kill it?

[glossy niche]

next layoff is best bet usually

[warped sentinel]

it's just a promo project anyway

[sullen delta]

this looks like some computer magic tbh

like they made his face big and buildings small?

[brave holly]

what is the shortcut to delete a full line in mac

[bleak lintel]

⌘ + Backspace?

[brave holly]

youre right

[gilded summit]

@bleak lintel i love your bio

[bleak lintel]

thank you

M-x motd

[glossy niche]

Where's the guy who keeps posting the 6 7 gif

[undone granite]

cc: @thick ore

[mental isle]

It looked like this during the outage

[thick ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391256522012491776/1413841401828999229/togif.gif

[modern pilot]

just

[mossy mango]

I got this

pydis got really selective

I think there were only a few spots left for pydis members and that's why we had to put up an application process /j

[bright solar]

What is 6 7 ?

[vale raven]

13

[thick ore]

you wouldn't get it

uncs

[glossy niche]

literally no idea

[mossy mango]

42?

(6) (7)

I hope that's right or I'm gonna feel pretty dumb

[vale raven]

!eval print(6*7)

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

42

[vale raven]

Congrats

[low chasm]

smh do yall not remember your time tables

[vale raven]

Now go to bed

[vale raven]

I lost mine before I even got home from school that day

[mossy mango]

thank god it's 42

[vale raven]

Not entirely sure a copy ever actually made it into my binder at all

[mossy mango]

I did just not with 100% certainty

[mossy mango]

I wish I had kept mine

[vale raven]

I don’t remember the day the teacher handed out the printed copies
But I very clearly remember the day we got asked to pull them out and I was the only kid that didn’t have one

[mossy mango]

oh no

that's so sad 😢

I would've felt a bit self conscious at that age if I were the only kid with no times tables lmao

I hope I didn't wake you up mr doggo

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[tardy rain]

But you had one in your brain, right?

Right??

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-good-one-funny-lol-xd-gif-18827784

[jovial oriole]

How did google know i was gonna search up aluminum melting point?

I havent made any prior searches to aluminum, or melting.

While i was typing it out i whispered "melting point of aluminum" to myself and it heard it?

[undone granite]

Does your search history indicate you will most likely ask about aluminum or was that a random out of no where question

[jovial oriole]

Out of nowhere

i searched up stuff about my cat and driving ed test answers for 2 hours

[undone granite]

interesting

[jovial oriole]

I noticed my smart tv does this too

Advertises stuff i talk about in living room

[undone granite]

The other day i was talking with my brother about the history of unix and then youtube recommended a video from AT&T archives about unix

[jovial oriole]

theyre listening in bro

[undone granite]

they’re in my walls

[lament cairn]

sorry i borrowed your accounts and had to search some stuf up

[sharp jasper]

ok but why did you think about aluminum?
because they can tell if, for instance, your friend was doing a project on what kinds of beams jet fuel can melt and then you had a ten minute whatsapp chat
or whatever

it doesn't necessarily mean they're listening in, but it sure can seem that way

[young shoal]

there is enough data on you and your friends to target ads to you without needing to listen in

not that they are or aren't, but they really don't need to

[jovial parcel]

Does anyone else make a todo list like this? lol

[jovial oriole]

i was thinking about how practical making a car chassis out of aluminum is, with carbon carbon brakes (800-1000 C). and i wanted to see if it can theoretically handle that

i DID NOT write this down anywhere. sent to no friends, this was just a thought i had while playing a video game and i went to search it up

[tribal schooner]

that to do list looks like it is made for cryptographers with 80 years experience in cryptography

[mossy mango]

are you writing a 3D rendering engine? haha

[tardy rain]

todos in code? No lol

[dapper dew]

Empty functions when building something out, yeah

TODO comments, not in the code file itself. I keep a To-Do list in OneNote for my work

[stark prawn]

Most of these are to remove ignores after a test is written

[bleak lintel]

yeah todo comments are nice

ruff has a cool lint rule that enforces you to link to a github issue when you add a TODO

[timid latch]

I used to use todos in code, but have moved to github issues.

[glossy niche]

Co worker routine:

• break build
• "@devops your pipeline doesn't work "

In today's case, they migrated a pipeline and then kept using the old one

[bleak lintel]

St. James's Square?

She's buried not far from where I was in Nottingham alongside Lord Byron

[tardy rain]

Yep

I used to eat lunch in this park for 10 months

I just saw this plaque now

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-to-pay-respect-gif-25518803

we salute the first b2b full stack ai developer

[tardy rain]

Truly ahead of the curve

I wonder what her prompts would look like

[vapid nymph]

That's from flake8-todos

https://pypi.org/project/flake8-todos/

Credit where credit's due, ruff didn't re-invent the wheel, it just gave it a lot of grease

[bleak lintel]

yea it is good

i do wish it was a little more crediting of the original tools

[broken flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283117002055221271/1363914035426365470/attachment.gif

[round pendant]

you also wouldnt care if it was wrong, and given how many searches active internet users do, some of them will be guessed

[jovial parcel]

Fair enough 😭✋ though it's actually for my dumbass with 3 months of python experience

[jovial parcel]

Hell no, I'm honestly way too dumb to ever do that. I am, however, writing an addon for Blender which works with 3D

It would be pretty crazy to write something like that in python though lmao

[prime lagoon]

Writing an addon for Blender is something that's hard for me. I consider you a expert. But, then again, I don't use Python that much.

[jovial parcel]

I'll keep that in mind! As a couple people have mentioned, GitHub issues/a separate todo file are possibilities. I do have a repo with my code on GitHub, so I imagine working online rather than uploading occasionally is the way to go?

[prime lagoon]

I have a mental model of what I want to do with code. It stays with me.

[jovial parcel]

Thank you, man! It's actually not that hard once you get down the basics, but it is a major switch of mindsets. Blender's python module (bpy) can turn it into more of an object based language which was the main thing for me

If you have previous experience with c++, I imagine it would be a lot easier to become acquainted with

[prime lagoon]

I know the basics of Python. Looking at .obj import script is intimidating for me.

[prime lagoon]

I do, and C# as well. My main language is G'MIC though.

[jovial parcel]

I do the same thing to some degree, but usually when i take my addon for a proper test run, I encounter a lot of issues that I find hard to remember

It also lets me brag about bug fixes and new features in updates lol

[jovial parcel]

That's actually really impressive! I don't have any experience with c++ or c#, but I know Arduino C

What kind of applications do you build?

[prime lagoon]

None. I make image processing filters and stuff related to image processing.

[jovial parcel]

Now that, is cool.

[prime lagoon]

Yeah, this is one of the thing I made. Not just editing images:

for editing images, I do stuff like this:

[tardy rain]

i once wrote a little tool that picks up # TODO: <...> comments in your code and raises them as github issues for you

was fun

[glossy niche]

i like TODO comments

and will fight for them

[tardy rain]

TODO comments get forgotten and turn into SHOULDHAVEDONE

do you know how many year+ old todo comments i see at work

[glossy niche]

[tardy rain]

True story

[glossy niche]

➜ grep '"1"' results.csv  > ./results.csv
grep: input file ‘results.csv’ is also the output

cmon gorp just copy it somewhere

ok on a second thought dont, this makes sense actually

[undone granite]

smart grep

[glossy niche]

gerp

[willow narwhal]

Yeah, it's not even possible

Grep doesn't get a chance to do it

[jaunty wraith]

Meanwhile, jq will overwrite the file without question

[jaunty wraith]

Sounds nice
Some modern linters also have lints like "TODO should mention an issue ID" which is nice to have (usually goes in the ignore list)

[tardy rain]

The whole todo goes in my ignore list

[willow narwhal]

The shell will; jq gets no say

[jaunty wraith]

What is grep doing then?

[willow narwhal]

Grep detects it's the same file. But by that time it's too late anyways; the file got truncated already

[weak peak]

semgrep

[glossy niche]

yeah, the file was cleared

[tardy rain]

Incursion?

Where and by who

People need to chill

US blowing up boats
Israel bombing qatar
Whatever is happening in Nepal
Riots in indonesia

[lofty latch]

Some boomer just shot Charlie Kirk...

[tardy rain]

And missed

[grave cove]

they're thinking its not the old guy

[grave cove]

did you see the video dude literally got shot in the neck artery i think

[glossy niche]

charlie kirk

[weak peak]

Russian drones allegedly

is what comes to my mind

🥴

[weak peak]

er.. idk how to tell you this, but, the shooter did not miss

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

[carmine apex]

where's the bad part

[glossy niche]

no bad part

https://tenor.com/view/bucktooth-emoji-patrick-star-smiling-emoji-bucktooth-smiling-buck-tooth-emoji-gif-8956359514105633234

[tardy rain]

Did he die

[weak peak]

allegedly?

waiting for @stark prawn to provide a source

[tardy rain]

Kirk allegedly died?

[glossy niche]

wikipedia is having a huge fight over it rn in the discussions

[weak peak]

Well, he got shot in the neck so (looks quite gnarly too).. I mean idk

More information to come I guess

[glossy niche]

current event articles are an absolute shitfest usually

so nothing new

[tardy rain]

Shoot him again

This is why you always double tap people

Class, take note

I've played metal gear solid

And hitman

[glossy niche]

lets not build an incriminating digital foot print

[tardy rain]

They cant pin it on me

I have an alibi

[glossy niche]

fair

[tardy rain]

Also i probably would have shot better

Never shot a gun but i have a feeling i'd be pretty good at it

[glossy niche]

there isnt much better than that

[tardy rain]

Got steady aim

All those years playing cod in internet cafes

They've prepared me well

[glossy niche]

welp

let me check if wikipedia was updated

not yet

oh lmfao

[weak peak]

he is confirmed dead

[tardy rain]

Huh

Well theres that

[weak peak]

real

wild stuff for a Wednesday

[tardy rain]

And also i had to go deal with bureaucrats 🤢

[glossy niche]

HOLY SHIT

I REFRESHED AND IT TURNED INTO WAS

[tardy rain]

Hair trigger on that wiki save button

Too soon?

[carmine apex]

confirmed by a reliable source
reliable source is cnn reporting on trump post

[glossy niche]

the conflictsthat happen on current event pages are insane

like if you dont submit within literally seconds you get in a conflict

yesterdayt i spent 10 mins trying to fix grammar

[tardy rain]

Low latency wiki editing

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-dog-gif-14542099238045824336

[tardy rain]

😔

Is it me or do some of these newish anime shows have garbage intros

Also whats with the 3 min intro song bro

Its 25 mins total just get to the fucking point

[glossy niche]

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-says-mars-rover-discovered-potential-biosignature-last-year/

ALIWMS

[jovial oriole]

Fr?

It was so crazy i lowkey thought the video was fake

[jovial oriole]

You think they need an actual digital footprint to arrest you?

Lol

[lament cairn]

triple tap them, even

[jagged creek]

social media has gone mental about it🤣

[mossy mango]

oh that's pretty close

might as well be a 3d engine lol

[bright solar]

it's sad

[bright solar]

im looking at many places in the flight radar map with many government helicopters looking over us

civil war is a possibility

[mossy mango]

i don't want to see it

i heard it was really bad to watch

[glossy niche]

no, but it usually helps

[glossy niche]

it is

[vapid nymph]

It tells which tool first and foremost on ever rule

[glossy niche]

yeah

I'm seeing parts of the debate and it seems he was literally saying just that when he got shot

doesn't make it right but we gotta start the story from the start when we talk about violence, the phrase "political violence is bad" obscures what made this happen in the first place

real

he died doing what he loved 😔

[weak peak]

yep

[celest berry]

it doesn't make you think that. You read a comment of someone else saying this online and are repeating it

[celest berry]

<@&831776746206265384> can a moderator act on this

[coral void]

!silence

[royal lake]

✅ silenced current channel for 10 minute(s).

[coral void]

Graphic descriptions of public deaths are not appropriate here, so I've cleaned that up

@tardy rain "shoot him again" isn't appropriate either, but I'm letting that slide since it's been a dozen hours and didn't lead to anything

This, however, is flamebait. You should know better

!unsilence

[royal lake]

✅ unsilenced current channel.

[tardy rain]

🤷‍♀️ anyway

[celest berry]

this one was arguably worse since it literally was a call to violence

[coral void]

And starting a flamewar helps how? You could have just pinged us