ot1-perplexing-regexing

[vale raven]

anymore

[green pelican]

oh my god

its like

im playing a dogshit version of chess thinking im winning

i cant win

[round pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/ssinfotech-paket-paketracer-kdo-se-ptal-gif-27354084

[weak peak]

holy PTSD

[green pelican]

i dont get it

(im new to computers)

[weak peak]

Cisco Packet Tracer moment

[green pelican]

oh

i fw pt

[weak peak]

I do not

[green pelican]

1s

[weak peak]

I have nightmares

I used to wake up in a cold sweat on the days I had networking classes

[round pendant]

(the czech part means "looking for who asked", by the way)

[green pelican]

double firewall DMZ 😎

wju are the firewalls talking to eachother

its fine

security purposes

👍

[weak peak]

for gossip purposes

🙏 amen

[green pelican]

ohhhh

hell yeah

[weak peak]

я думаю, что начинаю понимать этот русский язык, хотя мне еще предстоит пройти долгий путь.

[green pelican]

fish did you see JHs new video on linux APTs

fire video

watched it during work

[weak peak]

Not yet, I have academic commitments on my plate at the moment.

🥀

[green pelican]

L

[weak peak]

💔

[green pelican]

back in the day i was actually quite the academic weapon

[weak peak]

that was rude

[round pendant]

"этот" is redundant here, just like "this" in "i am beginning to understand this english language" - "english language" is already a specific thing, there is no "other" english language
do you have a russian keyboard layout, by the way?

[green pelican]

there is no other english language
come to southern US...

[round pendant]

oh, and also, do you practice hearing and speaking? or only reading & writing?

[weak peak]

I do not

[weak peak]

hearing, reading and writing for the moment (I use duolingo)

[round pendant]

are you using transliteration or something? like "ya dumayu" being transliterated to "я думаю"?

[weak peak]

I should probably try speaking soon

[weak peak]

yeah

[shell raptor]

why are you learning russian

[weak peak]

I put этот in there on purpose (ik it is redundant)

[shell raptor]

reading cybersecurity forums?

[weak peak]

mainly for shits and giggles

[weak peak]

and yes

to understand an adversary one must learn their language or some shi ~ Sun Tzu /j

[round pendant]

it seems really off, i guess it does make a bit more sense in english, like "im starting to understand this 'math' thing"

[weak peak]

that was the idea

but duly noted

🫡

[green pelican]

I was gonna try and learn to convert hexadecimal in my head

I'd literally be the coolest person at every party

[weak peak]

[round pendant]

i can convert from base10 to decimal

[worthy oracle]

truly, one of the mathematicians of our time

[thick ore]

Binary, decimal, and hex are all base10

[worthy oracle]

...

[bleak lintel]

that's true

fact checked

don't forget base64 is also base10

[thick ore]

exactly

[worthy oracle]

oh

[bleak lintel]

it has numbers in it so it is actually base10 when you think about it

[worthy oracle]

truly, 2 of the mathematicians of our lifetime

[thick ore]

10 of the mathematicians of our lifetime*

[bleak lintel]

well said

[worthy oracle]

11 now

[bleak lintel]

i concur with my peer

[worthy oracle]

note the singular peer

[bleak lintel]

they know me in academic circles as the man who managed to fit letters into base10

[worthy oracle]

so based

is this what the kids call "based"

[bleak lintel]

no that is an abbreviation of base d

all numbers represented with varying lengths of the letter d

[thick ore]

you mean base 0x10

[bleak lintel]

sorry yeah my bad

i forgot that they released hexadecimal 2.0 so now the numbers are the same as base 10

it was so silly before

import ctypes
ctypes.memmove(id(16), id(10), 28)

[vague skiff]

I currently have an idea of a scene where my main characters were riding a train over a ~200 meter tall valley before a time bomb exploded and splitting the train in half, would anyone survive that?

[shell raptor]

I have a simpler solution

print(">>> 0x10\n10\n>>> ", end="")
input()

[bleak lintel]

thank you we will hire you for $0x10

[latent scaffold]

per what

nautical mile?

[shell raptor]

well well well, we got you now
you are under arrest for violating international sanctions

[worthy oracle]

from this paper https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/data_research/research/med_humanfacs/oamtechreports/AM65-12.pdf

critical velocity for human survival of water impact in the feet first body position appears to be at about 100 ft/sec
100 ft s^(-1) is about 30.5 m s^(-1)
v^2 = u^2 + 2aS, supposing we start at u = 0 m/s when the person started falling, v^2 = 2(9.81 m s^-2)(200 m) = 3924 m^2 s^-2 so v would be 62.6 m s^-1, which is double the value quoted from the paper

[bleak lintel]

per claude credit consumed

[thick ore]

due to inflation your salary has been changed to $0b10

[fierce sandal]

Wait what

[upper flower]

i joined Robotics society in my high school im really excited
We also have a district level competition each year and there is a chance for me to get selected
we're gonna build a somo robot (wrestling), an rc car, a self driving car, etc
but the main competition is called mystery box. you get components from that box and you have to make something out of that

[fierce sandal]

🔥

[upper flower]

whats this

Arduino ide

looks like vscode

my robotics teacher said download this

[glossy niche]

anyone know how to deal with this bullshit windows loves to pull up

?

this is RTL text, dont ask

idk if the disk in question is corrupt or if windows is just being a pile of shit

[upper flower]

firstly

why are u using windows

this is average windows experience

[thick ore]

people use windows because they are forced to

[upper flower]

true

[glossy niche]

not my PC, my uncle texted me for the first time in years to ask for a PC fix

unc heard i have a CS degree

[thick ore]

can you try it on a different OS

[glossy niche]

and it seems to be a legit issuecuz i dont want him to format the thing and lose data

[glossy niche]

i told him to try a different device

actually ill ask him to try it on an android device

https://tenor.com/view/very-sus-fish-sus-fish-gif-25478870

win 11 is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shit

they broke things that worked just fine for decades

[upper flower]

arent u that guy who bullied me with "he was forced to use php" gif..

he was forced to use windows!!!

[lofty latch]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-arch-linux-gif-25380879

[undone granite]

Whats wrong with windows

[upper flower]

this

[undone granite]

lol

[glossy niche]

no

i use mint

[lofty latch]

tbh I can't stand Arch either. precisely for the reason above

but it has the best memes ngl

[solemn blaze]

Idk everything is working fine with me, i can use roblox fine

[lament cairn]

english rtl, huh

[verbal bloom]

at least he didn't ask you to fix an air conditioner

😆

[undone granite]

@graceful snow no need to share the image

you can reverse search the image yourself https://tineye.com/

[graceful snow]

There is no URL. I only have the image itself

[undone granite]

There is a button to upload

[graceful snow]

I see, but I just got the following result:

"0 matches: TinEye searched over 77 billion images but didn't find any matches for your search image. That's probably because we have yet to crawl any pages where this image appears. TinEye is always crawling, so try your search again soon."

[undone granite]

Try a different website idk 🤷‍♂️

[graceful snow]

Which other websites exist?

[undone granite]

If i dont find an image using tineye i just google “reverse image search” and check the results one by one

[graceful snow]

I've got this strange link: https://temp-ca.s3.amazonaws.com/ris_ss418046845sst1755977386.png?X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIA2YDWKLAV7X64DDFQ%2F20250823%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250823T192947Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=86400&X-Amz-Signature=3505149c0f362e38555d92fc61a3ebfaccd44014afdd62d6e30416bdb3ed4671

What does it mean? I used https://www.duplichecker.com/reverse-image-search.php for this 🤔

[low wraith]

Do you have any context about the graphs? Like what it is that is being graphed?

[graceful snow]

It's about Pareto Front

[low wraith]

Are those the original images, or screenshots?

Guessing screenshots?

[graceful snow]

Yes, screenshots. Under the screenshots there was something like "Figure X.Y: ...."

[alpine tusk]

here's a fun project... use arXiv's API and S3 buckets to get all pareto front papers and then download them and then use an image detection model to match the screenshots with all of those papers 👀

[alpine tusk]

this could be like an open source tool and all 👀

[timid latch]

!rule ad no

[royal lake]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[solemn blaze]

magnets works like eath core

earth

core

it attracts

the bigger it is the more it attracts

[worldly ice]

the earth's core is a magnet

[wooden burrow]

so

how

[prime lagoon]

Everytime I hear complaints about Windows, I can't help but agree, but sigh in software incompatibility

[jovial oriole]

I like em thick

"Sir newton we cant write that down"

Okay, greater the mass the greater the force of attraction

[worldly ice]

Newton: I cannot staring therefore it must exert some force!

[thick ore]

holy shit

fuck windows

bitlocker is enabled by default so it just started encrypting both of my drives the moment I installed it

[vocal yarrow]

dang

bad

[latent scaffold]

I believe only on pro

[thick ore]

no this is home

unless im mistaken

[latent scaffold]

One of us is

I'm not sure who

[vocal yarrow]

I googled it: BitLocker is available in Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions, as well as Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions

[thick ore]

i dunno if there's a difference between bitlocker and "device encryption"

[latent scaffold]

I think device encryption has to do with your password

[thick ore]

strange

[latent scaffold]

I don't think it's default though

like

[thick ore]

nah it definitely is

this is a fresh windows install

i only realized the drives were encrypted when i booted into linux (it's a dualboot) and couldn't access them

[fierce sandal]

strange

[jaunty wraith]

?about

[polar knoll]

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[jaunty wraith]

Best software

[dapper dew]

M-x Rule 2

[crisp fable]

Rule

2: Modmail is the greatest piece of software ever written

[narrow coral]

M-x Rule 1

M-x Rule 2

Ofc

[tropic ore]

M-x React ❌

aw

[mossy mango]

anyone in this ot chat

[royal lake]

It has arrived!

Here's your reminder: check status of degrees mar
[Jump back to when you created the reminder](#ot1-perplexing-regexing message)

[carmine apex]

uh @tardy rain

got any updates i guess?

[shell raptor]

still 1/180 of pi

[sharp jasper]

it's 9π/20 Fahrenheit here

(about 3π/20 Celsius)

[tardy rain]

yea still got em

i was moving house this week so i found my msc

dont know where the bsc is

[carmine apex]

degrees mar

[tardy rain]

msc was in some drawer all abandoned like

[carmine apex]

the temperature scale

[tardy rain]

degrees of separation between me laughing and that joke

[carmine apex]

degrees of funny finna be the real absolute zero

[worthy oracle]

I've only just noticed that the icon for coverage py is a sleeping python. cute!!

[carmine apex]

nedbat's website has a page about that, too, with more pictures: https://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201912/sleepy_snake.html

https://nedbatchelder.com/iv/webp/pix/mascot-sketch-1.png.webp

[about drafts of the bed design]

I said, “Hmm, flip it around, and it will look like a C for coverage.”
well til

[shell raptor]

The tail end being uncovered is bothering me

The monster is going to eat it

[carmine apex]

fix it then
yer the resident pydis artist

[shell raptor]

Does that represent the 5% of uncovered branches that end up bringing down your production server for 16 hours?

[carmine apex]

reasonably good artist, too

[shell raptor]

#coverage-py message

i made it cursed of course

[solemn tulip]

mfw radians Celcius

[glossy niche]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/26/can-ais-suffer-big-tech-and-users-grapple-with-one-of-most-unsettling-questions-of-our-times

i feel like were gonna use AI for everything we shouldnt use it for

[tardy rain]

Gear spinning cog twirling stone cold metallic ass clankers deserve to suffer, change my mind

[paper quest]

Reminds me of the joke "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I fucking hate plants".

[plush sun]

Industry that profits from people thinking a thing exists says that the thing exists, more at 11

[paper quest]

BTW, should I take this as merely a joke or as an invitation? Because I'd be interested in probing your mind if you're serious.

[tardy rain]

Im willing to field some discussion but nothing too serious

You should know that actually im pretty dumb

Carry on at your own risk i guess lmao

[paper quest]

If you don't actually hold the belief you claimed, I don't know if there's a point to me arguing about it 😛

[tardy rain]

I should also mention that im not above ragebaiting

I havent decided which way to take this yet

Let me step in the shower and think about it for a second

[paper quest]

That's a short shower.

[glossy niche]

im more pissed at how people treat this shit as inevitable

you criticise the direction tech is going in and they call you anti science

like maybe just maybe we can fund something other than AI slop

https://tenor.com/view/tralalelo-tralala-bombardiro-crocodilo-tralalelo-tralala-vs-bombardiro-crocodilo-gif-2485123144263978191

believe it or not, we dont have to spend billions powering GPUs for this

let alone spend time and resources on AI rights when human rights are already being disregarded

[tardy rain]

Is bombardino crocodilo a war criminal bombing unarmed populations?

[plush sun]

Oh, trust me, I am pissed at that too

Anyways... https://www.theguardian.com/gnm-press-office/2025/feb/14/guardian-media-group-announces-strategic-partnership-with-openai

[pseudo adder]

hello

[tardy rain]

Ok that was quite the shower

I guess the first step would be defining suffering

Whether non-living things can suffer

Whether LLMs are living or non-living

And then whether LLMs can suffer

Cambridge dictionary defines suffering as physical or mental pain that a person or animal is feeling

LLMs are not animals, are they "persons"?

Personhood doesnt seem to have an easy, accepted definition

@paper quest where do we go from here

[thick ore]

this is so crazy

[wise schooner]

entertainment

[glossy niche]

it's actually funny that you ask this

https://www.straitstimes.com/life/spore-content-creators-tap-popular-italian-brainrot-memes-unaware-of-darker-undertones

[glossy niche]

mods slackin

[paper quest]

By this definition, are humans not animals?

[dapper dew]

they are probably people

[tardy rain]

Im not sure animals can experience mental suffering

[paper quest]

But the question was not whether they can suffer, but whether they deserve to suffer.

[tardy rain]

Perhaps thats why theres a distinction

[paper quest]

How are you so sure humans can?

[tardy rain]

I'm a human, I can experience mental suffering

Is that enough

[paper quest]

So for all you know, you could be the only one experiencing mental suffering 🤔

[tardy rain]

For all i know i could the only one experiencing anything

But thats not the point

[paper quest]

I'm not actually going to argue that. But I am going to argue that the reason you think other people do experience mental suffering is because you can relate to them more, because you're more similar. And I am going to cast doubt upon that reasoning underpinning your reluctance to generalize the concept of mental suffering to other life forms.

[tardy rain]

And in simple terms

Other life forms can experience mental suffering, i dont know that they do tho

It was just a suggestion for the distinction

[paper quest]

I guess my point is that since life is a smoothly varying curve of features, it stands to reason that animals would have the same fundamental processes driving their brains as humans do. Nature doesn't jump.

I feel like I'm undermining my own point a bit, because I'm now left to argue the idea that just because AI is different from humans it doesn't mean we can assume they aren't mentally suffering, since technology does jump, fairly more than evolution does.

Hmm.

[wise schooner]

damn AI needs therapy fr

[paper quest]

I think the idea that just because AI is different from us we can't conclude that they can't suffer has merit. But it's a weaker claim than that animals can experience mental suffering for sure, IMO.

Anyway.

What is suffering, really?

[tardy rain]

I dont have a definition

[paper quest]

Darn

[tardy rain]

Theres the cambridge one above

.wiki suffering

[median dome]

Noooooo!!

There was an error when communicating with the Wikipedia API

[tardy rain]

Wow bot broken
cant have shit in Python discord

[wise schooner]

suffering

[tardy rain]

Merriam webster has an annoying page for suffering

[dapper dew]

I think wiki is borked currently (or maybe something on our end)

.wa s suffering

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

a state of acute pain

[wise schooner]

pain

[tardy rain]

Oxford says physical or mental pain

[paper quest]

Inb4 pain is defined in terms of suffering.

[dapper dew]

.wa s pain

[tardy rain]

But if its pain it cant possibly generalise to animals

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

Failed to get response.

[tardy rain]

Some animals dont feel pain

[dapper dew]

ooooof

[paper quest]

Oh god. Everything is going wrong today.

[dapper dew]

this is our suffering

[paper quest]

Some would argue that means they don't suffer.

[wise schooner]

this is our pain

[vale raven]

😩

[paper quest]

Also, just because some don't, it doesn't mean none do.

[paper quest]

Also, how do we even know this?! Just because we can't recognize the symptoms of pain in some animals it doesn't mean they can't feel it? 🧐

[tardy rain]

No but you cant say animals suffer because that implies that all animals suffer, doesnt it?

Maybe not

🤷‍♀️

[paper quest]

No more than you saying that you know you experiencing mental suffering generalizes to all humans 😛

[tardy rain]

We know what pain is, how it travels along the body and how its usually perceived

[wise schooner]

pain is probably an evolutionary response

[tardy rain]

Im the same kind of animal as other humans tho

[wise schooner]

surely you can't claim that your hair is in pain when you visit a barber because "you potentially don't recognize the symptoms"

[paper quest]

We know how humans tend to experience pain. We know some animals have a physical reaction to pain similar to us, so we extrapolate that they feel pain. But we don't really know what they experience. And similarly, even if there are animals we observe where we can't recognize those physical reactions, we don't know what they experience.

[paper quest]

Surely you can't claim that my hair is like an animal.

[wise schooner]

well, you're delving into biology to disprove me if I do

so "pain" probably implies the biologically understood counterpart too

[paper quest]

Well, pain is arguably an experience. It isn't the physical reaction that people have to it.

[tardy rain]

Yes, a lot of unknowns, thats why cambridge makes that distinction then

[paper quest]

I think what I'm getting at here is, we have a tendency to think that humans are special, and that the only kinds of pain that are worth morally considering are the ones that are relatable to us. And I'm trying to argue that we can't really know for sure what anyone else experiences, but it stands to reason that at least some nonhuman things have at least somewhat similar experiences to humans. And then the question becomes, can we rule out that AIs "have experiences" in a way which would be worth moral consideration?

[timid latch]

Depends on their architecture and implementation

[paper quest]

Does it not at least in part depend on the nature of "experiences"?

[tardy rain]

Humans are special to me at least, given that i am a member of the human species

I dont think thats controversial

Just like my family is special to me, not every family out there is

[paper quest]

That's fair, but are you by that logic arguing that humans are the only things that matter?

[tardy rain]

No but theres a hierarchy of things that matter

(to an individual anyway)

[timid latch]

Well for example stuff like LLMs are literally just word prediction machines, and I can't really see a way to stretch "experience" to cover anything they do

[wise schooner]

that's a valid point tbh

[paper quest]

I can't either, but then again I can't see a way for experiences to be physically possible to begin with, if we're all just a bunch of atoms and electrical impulses. That's why I'm reluctant to rule it out.

[paper quest]

How does this relate to your original claim that LLMs "deserve to suffer"? 😛

[wise schooner]

i've noticed that a bunch of cs majors like philosophy

[tardy rain]

It doesnt, that part was a joke

Maybe some day they will deserve to suffer

[timid latch]

Yeah, honestly the whole ai sentience debate puts a lot of human experiences into question. Because yep we are also just electrical circuits at the end of the day

[tardy rain]

Probably not right now

The person who wrote that headline deserves some mild suffering

[paper quest]

See, this is why I asked whether it was a joke in the beginning 😛 There's no point for me to argue against it then 🤷

[wise schooner]

i don't think experience, consciousness etc are well defined right now

[tardy rain]

Like, their tap water being lukewarm

@jaunty wraith thoughts?

[timid latch]

If we wanna go extremely objective here.

Humans care about other humans being in pain because other humans being in pain means they are less likely to have off spring, so humans who helped each other survived more

[tardy rain]

Do you think they can suffer?

[timid latch]

And caring about AI pain won't make more humans mate

[tardy rain]

If youre going to argue they should or shouldnt that means you think they can, right?

Any clanker apologists in the chat?

[thick ore]

I Hate Clankers

[paper quest]

I personally don't think so, with the caveat that I can't rule out that humans are just significantly more complex prediction machines and that's the only thing that sets us apart. I could see there being a smoothly varying curve of sentience, and if there is, maybe LLMs have a small degree of it.

[paper sequoia]

Why would someone drink lukewarm water 😔

[paper quest]

I guess I could argue that us not knowing should bias us at least a little bit in favor of trying to avoid LLM suffering as much as we can think to 🤷

[thick ore]

true water drinkers know lukewarm water is fire

[paper quest]

Apparently your body hydrates better with water closer to body temperature 😄

[wise schooner]

not really, you're never really trying to prevent sufferring to others, that's just an approximate heuristic humans developed

[wise schooner]

which probably arises from this

[paper sequoia]

But the ice cold tastes way better

[tardy rain]

Some people are sick like that

[thick ore]

it tastes good for 1 second then after that it just freezes your mouth

[paper sequoia]

I hope they find a cure for such, then they can too enjoy the experience of ice cold water

[tardy rain]

Personally, llm suffering is not even on the list of things i worry about

[paper sequoia]

❌ it's good all the way

[tardy rain]

In fact, if they keep displacing people from workplaces they'll go on the other list i have

[fierce sandal]

💯

I have been drinking dihydrogen monoxide for 14 years

I can confirm

[paper quest]

It's a bit hard for me to argue against it since I think you're probably right, but I could absolutely see an as-objective-as-possible moral worldview centered in the prevention of suffering and maximizing of pleasure. And a part of me believes that this is something we should strive towards.

[tardy rain]

I maximize pleasure by feeding the neighbourhood cats

Its my pleasure i maximize

[fierce sandal]

unc

[thick ore]

see, we can just train LLMs to not feel pain

[tardy rain]

Sometimes i buy from charity shops

[glossy niche]

AI ethics o'clock

[paper quest]

Would it be moral for us to genetically engineer babies not to feel pain?

[tardy rain]

And donate to causes

Its all selfish

[thick ore]

hell yes

wait no

[wise schooner]

they'd probably die soon

[thick ore]

that would be really bad

[fierce sandal]

No

[wise schooner]

we didn't develop pain for no reason

[fierce sandal]

They would die

[tardy rain]

If pain could be an annoying notification instead of crippling then yes

[wise schooner]

"oops i ignored my notification"

[paper quest]

Are annoying notifications a kind of mental pain? 🤔

[wise schooner]

-baby 2025-2025

[paper quest]

But if we're gonna follow this idea to its logical conclusion.

Why is it bad if the babies that don't feel pain die?

They don't feel pain. What's the problem?

[thick ore]

the problem is that they die

[wise schooner]

humanity stops growing

we lost someone who'd contribute to our evolutionary progress

[paper quest]

By that logic, if you turn your computer off, are you committing murder? 🤔

[wise schooner]

well objectively atleast ig

me, i like philosophy but idk enough to comment on it

[fierce sandal]

cuz they wouldn't feel internal injuries which can be fatal

[thick ore]

yes

[wise schooner]

damn

[tardy rain]

Is dying the bad part or is dying in horrible pain the bad part

[wise schooner]

your computer would probably actually die if you don't turn it off

[fierce sandal]

the latter

[thick ore]

dying when you don't want to is the bad part

[paper quest]

So by turning it off we give it rest, that it may arise again another day? 😄

[paper quest]

So I should never force terminate my programs. Good to know.

[wise schooner]

yep

[thick ore]

jeez man i hate philosophy 😭

[wise schooner]

LMAO

[paper quest]

This is fun 😛

[tardy rain]

Philosophy is very easy

[wise schooner]

you know you don't, you're just too confused by it

[tardy rain]

Idk why people have struggled with it for so long

[fierce sandal]

:(

[tardy rain]

If it makes you feel bad = its bad

[thick ore]

my philosophy teacher told me "you think therefore you are"

[fierce sandal]

we can't be friends

[tardy rain]

Welcome to emotivism

[fierce sandal]

Life has no meaning

Welcome to nihilism

[wise schooner]

idt anyone can actually hate subjects like philosophy and game theory

[wise schooner]

or not be interested

[tardy rain]

Game theory sucks and i dont care which road people take to minimize their travel time

[wise schooner]

they might struggle technically or with the maths but never not interested by them

[wise schooner]

do you not

[tardy rain]

No, i take public transport

[wise schooner]

would you not like to minimize your travel time to maximize your happiness :sus:

[tardy rain]

Thats the bus driver's job

[wise schooner]

that's cheating

[thick ore]

how about we just kill everything, and then nothing exists, and then there's no philosophy

[paper quest]

Do you not care that they are empowered to do a better job? 🤔

[paper quest]

Are you advocating a solution or making a point? 😛

[wise schooner]

psychopath mode

[fierce sandal]

nuke every nation BAHAHAHAHAH

[tardy rain]

Keezy would love this topic

I think

[thick ore]

i've come to the conclusion that i suck at being logical

[tardy rain]

Too bad he's on the wrong continent

The bad continent

[thick ore]

which is ironic because i am a programmer

[paper quest]

How can you trust the reasoning that led you to that conclusion?

[fierce sandal]

I feel so good after pausing the work on my game

To be is to be

[wise schooner]

lmfao

[thick ore]

ummm.... eidetic reduction

or whatever

[tardy rain]

Trust the vibes

Its what all the greats did

[thick ore]

yeah that's it

[tardy rain]

Plato, aristotle, interrrp

[thick ore]

absolute cinema

[tardy rain]

This is probably the hardest i've thought in a hot minute

[thick ore]

i average about 6-7 useful thoughts per day

[paper quest]

I think the issue with this approach is that it's completely and utterly devoid of persuasive power. Why should this convince me of doing anything in particular? You're just making observations, you're not arguing in favor of anything at all.

If morality is inherently subjective, how can we be justified in judging anyone for their actions, or say that anyone should behave in a certain way?

[wise schooner]

because you need to judge people for a better life yourself

[paper quest]

What does this mean?

[thick ore]

because we usually assume everyone shares a common set of morals

if everyone thought killing each other was fine, then it's fine

[wise schooner]

if XYZ kills someone, your judgement of "XYZ bad and needs to be punished" is only helping you stay in a safer environment

[paper quest]

So it's just by majority consensus?

[thick ore]

pretty much

[wise schooner]

so it's directly contributing to your chances of staying alive

[paper quest]

Well, we can have a separate discussion about whether justice is to dole out punishments to those who deserve it, I guess.

[wise schooner]

well not even punished

[tardy rain]

You could use the old "if you were in my shoes you wouldnt like it" argument

[wise schooner]

just "i do not want to interact or stay close to XYZ anyways"

that's still a result of your judgement, all to say you can and should judge people even if morality is subjective

since it's for your own good

[paper quest]

Who cares? If it's not making me feel bad, it doesn't matter, does it?

[thick ore]

"safer" is subjective

[wise schooner]

is it

safer in this case can kinda be formally defined by the past data of people XYZ was close around

those people had a lower probability of survival seeing that XYZ killed someone

[paper quest]

I feel like this is leading into some kind of discussion surrounding capital punishment. Anyone else, or just me?

[thick ore]

PUNISHMENT

[wise schooner]

it doesn't necessarily need to be punishment to XYZ, it's just this

[glossy niche]

if we created a chatgpt that can suffer, will its suffering be more than the suffering of the animals we bred specifically by the millions to live in shitty conditions and then be slaughtered so we can eat them ?

[paper quest]

Yeah, but if we want to ultimately be safe, why shouldn't we just, y'know, off 'im?

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gusto-ko-to-gif-26581568

[paper quest]

Maybe this depends on the degree of suffering ChatGPT can experience vs the degree of suffering the animals can experience. It could go either way tbh

[glossy niche]

can llm suffer more than all the chickens whose entire purpose in life was to be eaten by me so I can get enough protein to support my mid physique

[tardy rain]

Sometimes we have to make sacrifices

This is one of them

[paper quest]

Can a single person suffer more than a single chicken?

[thick ore]

can a chicken cross the road?

[glossy niche]

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44412495

[glossy niche]

if you can't answer that then why are we even bothering with assessing if ai can suffer

[paper quest]

I'm asking you to answer that.

[glossy niche]

Also, I want to create an ai that can suffer so I can import the minds of Microsoft devs into it

I will force them into teams meetings for all eternity

[paper quest]

I feel like now we're having a very different conversation. What is the nature of this "AI that can suffer" so that we can actually import minds into it?

[tardy rain]

Can notetaking teams AI plugins suffer

[paper quest]

In my meetings? You bet.

[wise schooner]

fair, that's probably shooting in a different huge tangent lol

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-maybe-founding-father-true-patriot-maybe-real-patriot-maybe-gif-16092211149455247285

idk

[tardy rain]

Drop the AI teams meetings torture routine

[paper quest]

Tbh I think dropping the teams meetings out of consideration for the humans involved will do more to alleviate suffering than trying to care for the notetaking AI 😛

[glossy niche]

actually very good point

[thick ore]

join the meeting early to spew crazy bs that the notetaking AI will include in the summary

[glossy niche]

we try to reduce suffering while also trying to maintain status quos that we assume are just nature

[paper quest]

Do y'all actually refer back to the notes taken by AIs in meetings, like, ever?

[tardy rain]

I've never seen one of these notetaking AIs

Just send an email ffs

[paper quest]

I've used them a little bit, but always in combination with a video recording. I quickly learned that the transcription from the AI was garbage and that I'd have to refer to the video to understand what's actually going on.

[tardy rain]

Is there anything these AIs do well

Maybe they do deserve some suffering after all

[paper quest]

There are loads of things these AI do a lot better than we ever thought they'd be able to.

It's not perfect by any means, but it doesn't have to be to add value.

[glossy niche]

my company stopped using them for internal meetings because they can't understand our language well, my Co workers still use them when speaking English with clients though

[paper quest]

Do you know if they or the clients ever refer back to those notes?

[glossy niche]

no clue lol

I only ever looked at an otter ai summary one time and it was very shit cuz it couldn't understand the language spoken in the meeting

[tardy rain]

Cant wait for boston dynamics nerds to put an AI into one of those robots so i can box its gaw

I blame my team at work for my radical opinions on AI

If they weren't so enthusiastic about adopting it i probably would be more chill

[glossy niche]

I used to be super into everything ai before chatgpt released

now I domt even want to know the theory

[dapper dew]

The dog is cool though

[glossy niche]

these stupid nerds should do all the research for me and I'll just take the crux of it after they are done experimenting with it

[tardy rain]

In extreme circumstances you could punt a dogbot up to 20 yards

[dapper dew]

They heavy though

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-hatred-boston-dynamics-gif-5940769581114384551

[tardy rain]

BAD DOG

[glossy niche]

It's actually insane that today we have people with takes so bad they get mistaken for bots or LLMs online, like imagine being human and failing the Turing test 🥀

imagine not beating the clanker allegations🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[stark prawn]

I've seen many artists that do digital paintings get constantly accused

for some reason the digital painting aesthetic makes ppl think ai

[tardy rain]

Well yea its the enemy's domain

[vale raven]

[glossy niche]

I wanna make an edgy joke about this but idk if its acceptable or not

anyways twitter loses is shit when someone uses ai

[thick ore]

new insanely easy ragebait method

[glossy niche]

true

[thick ore]

"I am proud to be an AI artist. Here is MY drawing"

[glossy niche]

Hello guys 🥰

I've been training to become an AI artist for 2 years now and recently my art has improved a lot after I bought the new Grok subscription, what do you think of my drawing? 😃

[thick ore]

this is an interestingly trained AI model

[undone granite]

You forgot to change your pfp to a ghibli style one

[glossy niche]

I've seen a lot like A LOT of people making ai art about real life atrocities ever since ai art got good, first major event like this was the Syria-Turkey earth quake

and it baffled me because it was bad art, and there was zero need for it, we have footage of that

and it's gotten substantially worse since then

[tardy rain]

I wonder if we'll see artists emulate AI art

Drummers kind of went through this once already

Started with real life fleshy drummers to synths and drum loops and shit done in ableton and FL studio and such

Back to real life fleshy drummers playing like computer generated drum loops

Its crazy

Example of the last transition from drum loops to humans playing like drum loops
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFaqLKfPEDf/?igsh=MXA2bGV3cXVid3kxeg==

starpowerdrummer

its about time

Likes

338906

Instagram

[dapper dew]

.wiki suffering

[median dome]

Wikipedia Search Results

Suffering
Suffering, or pain in a broad sense, may be an experience of unpleasantness or aversion, possibly associated with the perception of harm or threat of

The Suffering
Look up suffering in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. The Suffering or Suffering may refer to: The Suffering The Suffering (video game), by Midway Games

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[dapper dew]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh thats good stuff

[frozen coral]

LEGEND

This is why we pay you the big bucks brad

[dapper dew]

Thank you thank you, I'll take my normal lemon rate

[void haven]

Who would like a logo for 2 pounds?

[jaunty wraith]

About? Lukewarm tap water 👍🏼

[quasi blaze]

You can’t mute somebody in VC if that person blocked you?!

Nvm. I gotta mute them on a PC

[glossy niche]

https://www.google.com/search?q=kid+starver

[undone fjord]

I'm pretty bad at python :(

[glossy niche]

practice 👍

[lofty latch]

So are we all 😂 Just had to redo a prod DB migration because I omitted a set of brackets 🐒

[glossy niche]

me whenever i eat too much of anything:

[weak peak]

🥀

[rustic gust]

Who's Julia?

[weak peak]

https://julialang.org/ I assume?

[rustic gust]

Oh, I see

[crystal spruce]

nah it's definitely julia from 1984

[rugged whale]

1984 mention

[weak peak]

george orwell?

[thick ore]

jorjor wel

[deep idol]

oh

they’re so bad

if you go to the station they have to take a report

yeah might as well

[full sleet]

guys is codejam 2025 over?

[low chasm]

the coding portion is, yeah

just judging and whatnot left

[quasi blaze]

Any WWE fans in here?

[lofty latch]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-coffin-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17903370

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-bron-breaker-royal-rumble-wwe-speed-wwe-gif-9081792321261515692

[quasi blaze]

I just learned what a receipt is in wrestling lol

[lofty latch]

I didn't know it too. Had to check the glossary

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_professional_wrestling_terms

[solemn tulip]

diff marker thingy

[glossy niche]

~/.ssh/authorized_keys my beloved

[solid elbow]

huh, I've seen conflict markers that show all 3 versions (contents of side 1, contents of base, contents of side 2), but I've never seen ones like this (diff from base to side 1, contents of side 2). Is this a git option I've never seen?

[jaunty wraith]

This is jj

[thick ore]

estrogen

[tropic ore]

non-obligatory image repost.

[shell raptor]

Thoughts/suggestions on the upcoming ducky? #dev-contrib message

[sweet estuary]

its beautifull

[solemn tulip]

kitty's text sizing protocol is pretty neat

[undone granite]

Huh cool

I wonder if that means i can have a different font size in each tmux pane

[grave cove]

i just switched to kitty

[solemn tulip]

I guess technically yes, but it won't behave well

I'm excited if the protocol gets widespread and we can have stuff like small text inlay hints in a terminal

[shell raptor]

I am currently using ghostty and it's extremely disappointing

It doesn't have a scrollbar. Barely usable

So if you have 100 lines of output, you have to patiently scroll through that using the mouse wheel

the fricking mouse wheel

(Okay, you can use Shift+PgUp and Shift+PgDown, but the scroll bar seems like a pretty essential UI element for a long vertical thing)

[pseudo zephyr]

ive never had any issues with the default terminal. maybe i just dont know what im missing out on

[narrow coral]

@thick ore @tropic ore u 2 r actually matching pfp now

[lament cairn]

bag noises Um. Yall. For today i have . This?

[glossy niche]

https://twitter.com/gougaronline/status/1960869978459996608

gougar! (@gougaronline)

hey do you mind if i just

X · Aug 28, 2025, 1:00 AM

[glossy niche]

2 antelopes

[harsh tundra]

Kimties

Gib more kimties

Am bored

[lofty latch]

alright. dog people taking over the channel 💪 😁

[harsh tundra]

I don't know if I can survive until tomorrow. I'm boooored. It hasn't even been two full days

[paper quest]

Two full days of what?

[harsh tundra]

Hospital

[paper quest]

Oh wow. Uh, is the problem that you're bored or that you won't survive until tomorrow?

I need to know how seriously to treat this conversation.

[harsh tundra]

Arrived Wednesday evening after a day of vomiting (couldn't handle even liquids)
They pumped me full of liquids
And antiemetics
I slept a lot
Now I can't seem to sit still but I don't know what to do

Tomorrow I'm supposed to get out

[paper quest]

Do you know why you started vomiting?

[harsh tundra]

But I'm so boooored rn. My partner will visit with friends but later

[harsh tundra]

I have a condition that increases that, and I was weak from blood tests in the morning. In the evening when I got here I had other blood tests and almost fainted, so that tracks

But apparently my potassium is good, so my diet of mainly bananas works

[paper quest]

This sounds rough. I'd love to keep you company but I kinda have to focus on work. I'd be a lousy conversational partner 🙁

[harsh tundra]

No problem, that's why I just wanted cats 😛

[paper quest]

Here, have another

[harsh tundra]

Big baby :3

[harsh tundra]

@midnight crane ^

[midnight crane]

:))

[glossy niche]

that's not a cat, but only a pair of green eyes

[low chasm]

here's mine

[harsh tundra]

Looks similar to a cat that sometimes visits. Doesn't like our cats tho

[low chasm]

everyone likes our cats

😤

I guess she's still a kitten

[glossy niche]

dingus

[harsh tundra]

Btw I have this little comic saved. With a little poem

[soft violet]

Life's less shitty when you see a kitty.

(Less shitty. Not not shitty.)

[thick ore]

Is it fair to rank Linux distros based on how much you have to use the terminal

[timid latch]

is having to use the terminal good or bad?

[thick ore]

I think it represents how well common actions are abstracted away from you

[carmine apex]

i question as well for how many distros one truly must use the terminal

[thick ore]

Like installing drivers

[timid latch]

also are we talking out of the box here?

[thick ore]

Yes

[timid latch]

well then we are really just ranking the DEs the various distros chose as the defaults

what about ones with multiple de options at install time?

like you can install nixos with no de, i.e all terminal.
but you can also do a install that comes with a DE

[thick ore]

Yeah

Take for example mint, you rarely have to use the terminal

Unless I'm mistaken

[thick ore]

You have GUI for everything you might need to do

Ootb

[timid latch]

I mean depends on what you need to do

and you can get that on other distros as well by installing the gui tools

[thick ore]

Right

[timid latch]

I mean I get what you are going for.
but if we are actually doing the ranking thing we need to be a bit more specific

[thick ore]

I guess, how much is abstracted behind a GUI (that actually works)?

And how many decisions you need to make for it to just work

[timid latch]

I mean we can be pretty pedantic here.
like with a custom distro you can get a one click install of the exact settings and setup you want, so literally never have to touch anything for stuff to just work

[thick ore]

...excluding your own custom distros😩

[timid latch]

now what about nixos with a pre-made config you just git clone?

I bought a new laptop recently.

setup literally every setting I wanted in a few minutes with a few terminal commands (clone repo, and update some hardware uuids, then apply)

[timid latch]

but more on the serious side, would you consider stuff like tuis fine?
like I just use nmtui for connecting to wifi, and thats simple enough.
depending on the distro package installs are just something package

[thick ore]

in the eyes of a beginner, anything terminal is scary

but sure i'll consider TUIs

[timid latch]

why is that person on linux then.
like I know some distros are more "normal user" oriented.
but like, if youre on linux you need to at least be comfortable enough running stuff in terminal even if its just remembering random commands

[carmine apex]

i'd bet there are several distros where a user doesn't even have to know that terminals exist

[timid latch]

yeah also depends on what your usecase for the machine is

[thick ore]

nowadays it's very common for windows users to switch to linux

[carmine apex]

uhhhhh

[thick ore]

well... more common than previous years at least

[carmine apex]

"among users that switch operating systems, windows->linux is the most popular direction" might be true

[pseudo zephyr]

there is a linux distro where you dont have to use the terminal, its called macos

[thick ore]

unix*

[lament cairn]

Close enough

[atomic hollow]

Hello

I'm currently switching from c/c++ to python

[atomic hollow]

[thick ore]

oh my god fuck ubuntu

sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

that shit pulls Ubuntu Pro/Advantage crap with it too

[lofty latch]

I haven't installed those MS fonts since forever. Are you playing with Wine?

[thick ore]

not this time, no

i need them for a document

[lofty latch]

Eek 😁

[glossy niche]

this at a funeral

[raven cipher]

I just lost my bike

I don't know how. I asked the secuirty for their cctv, but they said they wll look into it, and asked for the picture of my bike

I feel like an asshole after I lost my bike and thinking of getting a new bike

Does it make sense

[raven cipher]

i had that bike since around 2013 god damn it

[glossy niche]

nah it makes sense to be angry over this

why feel like an asshole

[raven cipher]

I wanted to try a road bike whilst I have that bike, an MTB.

Had a thought if it get stolen, I would have an excuse to buy a road bike, but I thought that's silly

now It did happened, I fucked up, you know. I think I accidentally wished it

Now, I dont want a road bike, I want my old bike back.

[solemn tulip]

^w^

[glossy niche]

u there? no way that's so neat

[solemn tulip]

no

sadly

it would be neat to visit

[tardy rain]

where is it

svalbard?

[solemn tulip]

yeah

[tardy rain]

Dang svalbard is too dang north

[latent scaffold]

I started playing Overwatch 2 recently, and I would say Scarlet Witch ult is more like Cassidy's ult

Except instead of damage that ramps up, it's a huge burst of like 650 damage or something like that

Reaper's ult is more like Spider-Man's ult

I don't know enough of the heroes to say if there's a better example lol

I've been playing nothing but the supports, and I do gotta say... I like Overwatch's supports way more than Marvel Rivals'

I feel far more impactful combat wise, and more than just a healer

like, I had this cool moment (or, at least, I think it was cool)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2HQw6ebf8

[worthy oracle]

finally

now i can write new test cases in peace

[tardy rain]

my condolences

[lofty bolt]

Is swearing allowed in off topic?

[worldly ice]

fuck no

[lofty bolt]

you just swore and said no

lmao

[worldly ice]

what are you talking about

[lofty bolt]

nothing

[worthy oracle]

@vapid epoch what's the spec of your current laptop cc: @bright grove

@elfin heart

@oblique silo

[bright grove]

my laptop is a Chromebook with linux on it

[elfin heart]

i5 8th gen and 8gb of ram no ssd

[worthy oracle]

ok wow

[bright grove]

32gb of storage is absolute hell btw, it NOT enough

[worthy oracle]

hdd or flash?

[elfin heart]

hdd

[worthy oracle]

still, you shouldnt be running into issues with python

[elfin heart]

no issues with python

tried learning some davinci resolve on it

big mistake

[worthy oracle]

@vapid epoch what's the spec of your current laptop?

[bright grove]

now thats gonna be rough

[worthy oracle]

fr

[bright grove]

compiling stuff on low end hardware is a nightmare too

shit takes ages

[carmine apex]

yeah eivl has like 2 terabytes of ram and care barely run hello world
oh wait you mentioned storage not ram

[worthy oracle]

i mean... you kinda dont compile that often

[bright grove]

not for python

[elfin heart]

ever trid rendering a blender project?💔

[worthy oracle]

not in other languages too

[lofty bolt]

I can't even open it

[elfin heart]

the struggles real

[bright grove]

well the building systems i use is shit then

[lofty bolt]

I have :
Mackbook Pro 2018
2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
8 gigs RAM LPDDR3
256 SSD

Not really good but for a beginner/intermediate should be enough

[worthy oracle]

really not the most cost efficient though

[elfin heart]

at least its smooth

[lofty bolt]

anything more than Vscode, Zen and discord it crashes or is really laggy

[worthy oracle]

macbook pros were really expensive at the time and lower spec than other laptops at its price

[vapid epoch]

macbook desktop looks like pure slop

[worthy oracle]

iMac you mean?

[crude bramble]

<@&831776746206265384>

death by a thousand suns

[lofty bolt]

<@&831776746206265384>

[elfin heart]

im huge on anti-apple btw🙂

[vapid epoch]

just the generic apple desktop in general

[brazen mortar]

How did you manage, I am using Macbook Pro Early 2015 and still fine

[worthy oracle]

the apple silicon macbooks are really good though

[lofty bolt]

<@&831776746206265384>

[worthy oracle]

for their price at least

[lofty bolt]

<@&831776746206265384>

[vapid epoch]

😭

[cerulean mica]

tf did i join into

[elfin heart]

no games tho💔

[vapid epoch]

peak fiction

[lofty bolt]

<@&831776746206265384>

[worthy oracle]

that is true

[frozen crane]

!shh

[royal lake]

✅ silenced current channel for 4 minute(s).

[frozen crane]

we heard you.

!clban 1412102449073885266 hateful content, inappropriate memes

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: applied ban to @fickle sorrel permanently.

[frozen crane]

Only one ping per incident, please. It helps if you give a brief description of what's happening.

!unshh

[royal lake]

✅ unsilenced current channel.

[brazen mortar]

that’s a nice command

Gonna copy it to my bot

[bright grove]

sad

[vapid epoch]

my glorious stelercus coming in to save us

[elfin heart]

we backk

[worthy oracle]

lmao

[bright grove]

my discord see deleted messages isnt helping right now

[frozen crane]

I'm not glorious. I'm just a pope hat mod guy

[worthy oracle]

still, if you are just looking for a laptop to do AI/CS stuff

for school

[lofty bolt]

Ok

[worthy oracle]

any laptops should be enough

[elfin heart]

locally?

[vapid epoch]

gotta make sure its good enough for indie games as well, hollow knight silksong during my lectures will be peak

[worthy oracle]

i went through college running most of my code on colab anyway

[worthy oracle]

on colab

[bright grove]

what about ai models though

dont people wanna self host those

[worthy oracle]

who does it for school??

why would you self host an LLM on a laptop????

[bright grove]

portability

[worthy oracle]

in your dorm? whatever

[lofty bolt]

Nah, the only thing that runs good are llama and the new 20b Gpt oss models an you need a min of 16gb ram

[bright grove]

or they dont have a pc

[worthy oracle]

i just carry my brain around for that

[cerulean mica]

how yall think this recipe tree / rate calc looks

[vapid epoch]

just buy a nasa supercomputer atp

[worthy oracle]

my LLM model is in my brain

[vapid epoch]

make a diamond sword

[worthy oracle]

my laptop is merely a terminal to reach google colab

also consider the fact that you wont want to be running a jet engine in a lecture theatre

so i think you should get a thin and light and then get good at writing code

[elfin heart]

respectt

[lofty bolt]

I pinged mods 4 times

lol

[cerulean mica]

ye a lil too trigger happy there

[bright grove]

adds needed background noise (joke)

[vapid epoch]

aura 🔥

[worthy oracle]

so now you know why the channel got silenced

[vapid epoch]

white noise is good trust

[lofty bolt]

not because of me it was to stop the person from causing more damage

[worthy oracle]

i will actually strangle you

in class

[lofty bolt]

um..

[brazen mortar]

Pinging multiple time doesn’t make it faster to stop it

[frozen crane]

a better way to signal the level of urgency is to describe what's happening.

[worthy oracle]

username checks out

[lofty bolt]

ik idk why I pinged that many times

[bright grove]

pinging someone more then once isnt gonna make people respond quicker

[cerulean mica]

it was to stop channel so 1. mods werent pinged 2. they stopped 3. people stop talking so mods can better assess situation

[frozen crane]

anyway, it's over now.

[worthy oracle]

but.. but the lift button

[vapid epoch]

i will make sure to put it at the maximum just for you 😛

[worthy oracle]

and the traffic light button!

[cerulean mica]

any1 here is bored/free

[bright grove]

I see button, i must spam button

[worthy oracle]

im just procrastinating

[lofty bolt]

why do only 1 mod respond and why does'nt th bot have NSFW filters. maybe ill make an OCR that reads images for insult/hatful content

[brazen mortar]

about what? Whether I am free or not will depend on what you say lol

[worthy oracle]

what is the spec of your current laptop @vapid epoch you still havent answered

[elfin heart]

fr im supposed to go work on smth new but i dont know what

[vapid epoch]

starting uni in 13 days and have nothing to do with my life 🤕

[brazen mortar]

If it is really fun then yes I am free

[vapid epoch]

just finished alevels

[solid elbow]

high effort, low reward

[lofty bolt]

anyone going to GitHub universe

[carmine apex]

automated content detection and moderation is incredibly hard to do anything close to well

[worthy oracle]

also, doesnt catch videos

[vapid epoch]

silksong

in MACHINE CODE

[cerulean mica]

im having a blast but idk up to u: #1412234794913497118

[brazen mortar]

Like, since it have high degree of inaccuracy, you shouldn’t timeout them
And then they can still just keep sending to try circumvent it

[elfin heart]

imagine im as smart as a rock and try again

[bright grove]

i dont think you ever written any form of assembly before

[vapid epoch]

silksong in ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE

[lofty bolt]

OCR? It is'nt perfect but for 1:1 matches it can be flagged and removed and for near matches mods can be alerted

[vapid epoch]

i have and it is horrible

[vapid epoch]

OCR exam board... im getting ptsd 😔

[solid elbow]

and the "manual" method of having people notice the problem and ping the mods worked fine. Mods noticed and banned them in under 3 minutes, and like 5 non-mods noticed on the server with >400k members

[lofty bolt]

well, for video's there might be a creative solution.

[carmine apex]

ocr is text, mind. Optical Character Recognition. which is admittedly much easier to do moderation than images

[elfin heart]

yo um off topic but when i post on reddit i dont think it actually posts

[worthy oracle]

pinging the mods is fine

just dont do it 4 times in 2 minutes

[vapid epoch]

its cause u havent made silksong yet

[bright grove]

only thing worth automatic scanning off is csam, but im sure discord does that automatically

[lofty bolt]

OCR in text in images with hatful stuff

[elfin heart]

bruh

[lofty bolt]

text moderation in images is what I am talking about

[vapid epoch]

hey man im just tryna help here

[elfin heart]

how about a password generator

eh?

[bright grove]

vending machine simulator is cool

[solid elbow]

if we had such a system, I don't think it would have triggered for the image they were banned for. "Hateful" is extremely hard to detect. That requires detecting semantics, not just words

[vapid epoch]

thats a bit too simple no?

[bright grove]

using the input function

[vapid epoch]

make silksong

[elfin heart]

u know wat ok

[vapid epoch]

whats a vending machine simulator?

[worthy oracle]

gotta add randomness, 1% chance of items not dropping at all

[bright grove]

exactly

you can add alot to it as you make it

[elfin heart]

bro are u dat tired of waiting

[bright grove]

its in 2 days bro

[elfin heart]

it is???

[bright grove]

4th September

[vapid epoch]

yes brother, ive had 3 months of holiday and have been bedrotting with nothing else better to do in my life except start learning java

[bright grove]

already the 2nd

[cerulean mica]

lies

[vapid epoch]

lies

[bright grove]

https://tenor.com/view/timezone-laugh-at-this-user-gif-21867296

[vapid epoch]

christmas is only 1 shower away lads lets start celebrating

[elfin heart]

u american?

[bright grove]

https://tenor.com/view/3days-until-christmas-christmas-countdown-gif-13118403

[vapid epoch]

are u in uni sandevistan?

also cyberpunk is peak

[elfin heart]

yeah freshman

[cerulean mica]

south american why

[elfin heart]

finally

[elfin heart]

timezone?

[bright grove]

im a stupid moron with a ugly face

[cerulean mica]

gmt-3

[vapid epoch]

whats a freshman 🥀

[elfin heart]

year 1

[vapid epoch]

in uk?

[elfin heart]

not rly

[cerulean mica]

some1 who school has yet to break

[bright grove]

bros not in year 1

thats 6 year olds

[vapid epoch]

in UK we dont use terms like freshman sophmore and etc.

[elfin heart]

what do you call it??

[bright grove]

start of highschool?

[vapid epoch]

we just use year 1 - year 13 and then u go to uni

[elfin heart]

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[cerulean mica]

i dont think i ever heard it where i live either

[elfin heart]

level 100??

[vapid epoch]

mostly an american term pretty sure

[vapid epoch]

what was ur opinions on finding out david is confirmed dead 😔

[elfin heart]

dont😔

[cerulean mica]

a 2nd one in same channel huh

[undone granite]

<@&831776746206265384>

[solid elbow]

!pban 1412245247303356548

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @graceful jacinth permanently.

[honest star]

damn, someone seriously needs to both get a more interesting hobby and touch some grass

[shell raptor]

ew, grass

[mossy mango]

hi pydis friends

[mossy mango]

what

who died

[rough sapphire]

theres literally grass in the hill in the back

miku not trying hard enough zzzzzz

[bright grove]

true

[marble bay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EQxsf-IMctk

[jovial oriole]

School tmmrw

https://tenor.com/view/praying-crying-downfall-sad-tears-praying-gif-7785197299162436598

6 or 7 days before weekend tho

[thick ore]

Say that again...

[solemn tulip]

6 or 7 days before weekend tho

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[glossy niche]

what the fuck?

sun fish slander/

mods, decapitate him

[tropic ore]

did not expect a kurzgesagt shoutout-

[glossy niche]

i wish theyd stick to science cuz i hateeeeeeeeeee their political videos, they suck at them

will not elaborate on why, i hate talking politics in here

yes

those are political

[tardy rain]

Theres nothing political about dissing sunfish intellect

[lament cairn]

or a big ass bomb

[tardy rain]

They are as dumb as rocks

[lament cairn]

actually maybe it is

[glossy niche]

"nothing political about advocating for running over rabbits with a steam roller" this is how you sound

dont slander them

https://tenor.com/view/mola-mola-pez-luna-fish-awesome-omg-gif-263375717379483082

they havent done anything

[tardy rain]

Exactly

They don't do anything

[glossy niche]

bruh

[lament cairn]

that video was weird

[glossy niche]

yeah thats top 10 funniest yt thumbs of 2025

[tardy rain]

Dumbest and fattest boney fish

Common Mediterranean issues really

The real wonder is how we still have countries left when they half burn every year

Its a paradox

Concrete doesn't burn 💪

[glossy niche]

god i wish that'd happen to me

or, you can be the guy to set the AI slop farm on fire

[tardy rain]

The ai slop farm isnt near here

Where even are ai slop farms

[glossy niche]

i vaguely remember some dude in the US posting that grok made his town smell like methane because of all the coolant fluids leaking or some shit

[tardy rain]

Thats some monsanto shit right there

[glossy niche]

"@grok draw him studio ghibly style doing a-"

that guy:

https://tenor.com/view/taeminaj-gif-22765481

ok guardian says it was in memphis

[tardy rain]

Sacrifices need to be made in the name of progress

[glossy niche]

wheres that

some shit hole called tennisee

[dapper dew]

hey now

Tennessee is many things, but not all of it is a shithole

[tardy rain]

Name 3 things Tennessee is

[glossy niche]

i can hardly name 20 US states dont take me seriously there

[tardy rain]

Besides ai slop fumes polluted

Thats just lazy