ot1-perplexing-regexing

[tardy rain]

And its used in rap or trap or whatever music they make down there

(we dont go south of the river)

[lucid skiff]

Hey everyone , i am 16 years old . Planning to start with coding , so need some help from experienced people how to proceed and where to start and all the stuff

[covert rover]

looking for someone to collab with to make a mc server launcher - Dm me for more information if you are interested
yes, i am asking random ppl online, you gonna critisize do it quietly

[dapper dew]

Do note that we aren't a space for recruitment or advertising. Maybe r/python would work for you

[scarlet peak]

@shadow jetty this should be your next project with batgrl

also how do you print and input at the same time?

[shadow jetty]

you don't, you do some printing then you do some input

[scarlet peak]

fuck

wait can you not just quickly print then give control back to the input

say you're waiting on input

can't you just stop taking input and then start taking it again?

[quasi blaze]

FYI: This is a job in Canada

[green breach]

RIP, guess you better start doing Duolingo.

Maybe take a class on ancient Gaelic just in case that comes up too

[lament cairn]

maybe an international company?

[green breach]

Actually, if I remember right there is a large Mandarin speaking population in Canada for one reason or another

[shadow jetty]

so that's probably the interesting bit, on posix (linux and bros) you can add a fdreader to call some callable anytime there's something in stdin, so you print something then maybe the callable gets called, otherwise you print again
on windows, it gets a bit more complicated, you can either poll stdin non-blocking, so you print something, then check if there's anything in stdin, and if there is do something with stdin input, or, if you don't want to constantly poll, you try to read from stdin in a blocking way, but in a separate thread from your printing (and this is what batgrl does)

the separate thread will schedule a callable to be run in the main thread if there is anything in stdin

[spare oriole]

What’s the problem? There’s plenty of jobs that have a foreign language requirements because you might be working with clients overseas

[quasi blaze]

The national languages for Canada is English and French. Not Mandarin.

[tardy rain]

You have a large chinese population

Its not a government position is it?

[harsh tundra]

And? It wasn't about taking Canadian citizenship test, it was about job requirement.

If they could only require national languages, then how they'd find e.g. translators?
Tech specialists that are to work with a certain market need to know lang of that market. I saw tech jobs in Poland requiring German as language

[quasi blaze]

It's crazy to me that you guys don't see how this is a problem.

[harsh tundra]

Because it's not

[quasi blaze]

This is a Software Developer position...not a translator position

[harsh tundra]

Link the whole job listing then

And we'll see if it makes sense

[tardy rain]

If its a large chinese company then yea it makes sense they want you to be able to speak with their domestic devs

[harsh tundra]

And i exactly said that there ARE tech jobs that require langs other than national langs of the country

I don't see you complaining for Europeans that they need to know English for a lot of jobs, when English is not a national language in mainland Europe...

[quasi blaze]

I'm not in Europe

[harsh tundra]

"for", not "as"

It's exactly the same premise

It's not "national language" but often required

And it's normal

[spare oriole]

It’s crazy to me you don’t see how xenophobic that statement is

[spare oriole]

So what? You could be a secretary and the business could still need you to speak French, Russian, German, whatever, it’s a job.

[quasi blaze]

The languages that are de facto in Canada are English and French

[harsh tundra]

My best friend works in Poland for Danish company and needs to know Swedish... Accounting job

[vocal oyster]

Job postings can impose any requirements as long as it is not discriminatory towards protected characteristics, the languages you know is not protected.

[spare oriole]

And Canada is currently a British commonwealth , by your logic you should only be speaking English and not fr*nch

[harsh tundra]

So what? Again, you're not taking citizenship test, it's a job requirement

[woeful phoenix]

Canadian businesses can still need to communicate with other countries and thus other language speakers. Why is that outrageous?

[quasi blaze]

The outrageous part is that a foreign language is a requirement than it being a bonus

[vocal oyster]

it is just a requirement of the job lol

[woeful phoenix]

Maybe the company really needs it lol

[vocal oyster]

it is a skill they require

[harsh tundra]

Because if you're working with team/client from there, you will NEED it

[vocal oyster]

like what if a software job needs you to know C well instead of picking it up on the job, this seems quite similar

as well, you can't pick up (spoken) languages that quickly

[harsh tundra]

I'll also quote myself

My best friend works in Poland for Danish company and needs to know Swedish... Accounting job

Poland has only one national language and that is Polish

[quasi blaze]

Programming languages are easily transferrable if you are an expert in another language.

That's not comparable to learning Mandarin if you know English already

[spare oriole]

You keep ignoring peoples question: what if the job requires the developer to speak another language to clients / devs overseas?

[vocal oyster]

ok but jobs are still allowed to require proficiency in a language and that isn't bad ethically to do so

for both language types

[quasi blaze]

Not bad ethically...I agree. My position is to have the requirement as the languages spoken in the country where the job site is located. That's all.

[spare oriole]

You keep ignoring peoples question: what if the job requires the developer to speak another language to clients / devs overseas?

Don’t weasel out of a perfectly sound question

[woeful phoenix]

What if that's not enough for what they need? Surely they should specify the requirements based on... their requirements.

[vocal oyster]

flip it on the head, what if a company had bases in say, china, and required english to speak to the main base

[spare oriole]

This is just masked xenophobia imo, he’s fine with another programming language being required but not a spoken language

Like

[vocal oyster]

simple fact is, jobs can put whatever requirements they like as long as it isn't violating disability/equality laws

and I think (and seemingly everyone else) that is perfectly fine, as it is just any old skill

[harsh tundra]

Apparently other countries requiring English are not a problem, but English-speaking country requiring another lang is. Considering i mentioned Europe and requiring English as literally the same premise and got ignored

[vocal oyster]

you can learn any language in the same way anyone can learn to be a software engineer

[spare oriole]

Also are you going to exclude people who use sign languages because they’re not “French or English”

[spare oriole]

Exactly

[vocal oyster]

yeah a better example, central/western europe requiring english is very common

[grave cove]

ignoring a valid question has to be some kind of logical fallacy

im not an expert on logical fallacies though so

[spare oriole]

They don’t want their xenophobia to leak

[honest star]

-# The Shapiro Special

[grave cove]

well i dont think its that

i mean, it could be but thats jumping to conclusions methinks

[spare oriole]

Idk

[low chasm]

the US didn't have a national language until this year lol

[small coral]

the american national language isn't even native to america, that's insane 😔
-# /hj

[spare oriole]

I hadn’t thought of that

That’s fucking insane

[honest star]

I meeeean, not a bad point

[spare oriole]

What languages are native to America? Asides McDonald’s and Burger King

Also my Latino blood forces me to point out that America is quite big and expands outside the USA

[harsh tundra]

Wait, I just read that UK doesn't have English as official lang either.

The United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and Antigua and Barbuda do not have English as an official language, but it is the de facto working language for their governments.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_where_English_is_an_official_language

[low chasm]

the various languages the indigenous people speak/spoke I assume.

[tardy rain]

Why would it have an official language, just speak the queen's english

[spare oriole]

The queen is dead, long live the king

[scarlet peak]

sup nerds

how do you uhh

how do you strip the types from a typescript file?

[brazen ingot]

esbuild

[scarlet peak]

no like, just strip the types

leave the valid JS alone

for example: ```ts
const addThree = (n: number): number => n + 3;

becomes: ```js
const addThree = (n) => n + 3;

[woeful phoenix]

that's what a TS->JS transpile does

[scarlet peak]

yes but no

the output from a TS transpiler looks like shit

[grave elbow]

Bro who are have hacking tools

Xd

[scarlet peak]

// constants.ts
export const A = 1;

// main.ts
import { A } from './constants';

console.log(A);

// constants.js
"use strict";
Object.defineProperty(exports, "__esModule", { value: true });
exports.A = void 0;
exports.A = 1;

// main.js
"use strict";
Object.defineProperty(exports, "__esModule", { value: true });
const constants_1 = require("./constants");
console.log(constants_1.A);

[weak peak]

🤨

[scarlet peak]

this looks horrible

[grave elbow]

Bro

[weak peak]

what do you need "hacking tools" for?

[grave elbow]

Really? Roblox and tiktok

[weak peak]

[grave elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-kid-shouting-yes-yess-gif-12254544011488707697

Do u have?

[weak peak]

why do you need hacking tools for roblox and tiktok?

[grave elbow]

Idk

[vocal oyster]

well, what language is native to any country if you go far back enough 🤓

[grave elbow]

Bro i make cods in chatgpt lol

[weak peak]

good talk

also:

[scarlet peak]

can i have one with chips

[weak peak]

!rule 5

[royal lake]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[scarlet peak]

and some salt

[grave elbow]

Np

Loooll

[small coral]

i mean the continentals did invade the isles at some point and messed up their language...

[vocal oyster]

with like any country

[plush sun]

...Does it convert to ES2015 (or whatever year) code?

[woeful phoenix]

I initially had that thought too
but there are language isolates which as far as we know just sprang up in those locations, so doesn't that count as "native"?

[scarlet peak]

dumps to cjs

[vocal oyster]

language history is very complicated and sensitive so saying anything comes from anywhere is a little vague

[scarlet peak]

thats the only thing that can be run anyway, right?

[plush sun]

Ah

[scarlet peak]

also ping me

[vocal oyster]

@scarlet peak

[plush sun]

Sure

[small coral]

i mean tagalog borrows quite a bit from spain, but it does kind of stem from some native islander language(s)

american english is not exactly that though

[spare oriole]

American English is burger English, appropriated and shittier

[small coral]

but to be fair it's not just the U.S. in america with a non-american native common language

[scarlet peak]

bruh

[scarlet peak]

anyways what do anons

how fix

[spare oriole]

No clue. I sane languages

[scarlet peak]

💀

[sharp bridge]

reject grammar, return stone age

import meteor

[scarlet peak]

!pip meteor

[royal lake]

meteor v2.0.18

Meteor - A plateform for quantitative metagenomic profiling of complex ecosystems

Released on <t:1740662927:D>.

[scarlet peak]

!pip pythonmommy

[royal lake]

pythonmommy v0.1.3

Mommy's here to support you when running python~ ❤️

Released on <t:1705070531:D>.

[green pelican]

what the hell

chat what the hell

pip install pythomommy

shit that is not my terminal

[spare oriole]

it's something that @green pelican would write

[green pelican]

lowkey

[spare oriole]

i'm doing something cursed imo

[green pelican]

mine is more cursed

writing a network library in C

take that

[spare oriole]

i'm using mojo to bring portability to python

take that

[green pelican]

jesus

ok

fine

mojo??

really??

[spare oriole]

yes

really

[green pelican]

i didnt even think mojo took off

[spare oriole]

it didn't

[green pelican]

all i remember was it getting bullied

[spare oriole]

yeah i was one of those bullying it

[green pelican]

w fr

[spare oriole]

it has a large start up time when using it with modules so eh

[green breach]

Did Mojo die? I remember looking at it a while back, but the terms and conditions for using it struck me as insane

[graceful basin]

It's rebranded to a language for writing HPC stuff

No more we'll replace Python nonsense

[spare oriole]

i was reading their motivation on why Mojo and i was thinking: "huh did they rebrand"?

[graceful basin]

Yeah, they got their clout out of it, and now they have to actually sell a real product

[green breach]

Did they give a reason for why they decided to drop it? Or was it sort of entirely a pr move?

[graceful basin]

The people behind it are competent enough that I'm willing to say PR move

[spare oriole]

that's also the impression i got from reading the why mojo page:
https://docs.modular.com/mojo/why-mojo

their "Improving CPython and JIT compiling Python" tab makes it clear they're keenly aware of the ongoings with CPython

[spare oriole]

can you show the entire file explorer

[bronze token]

???

[spare oriole]

okay, click inside there where it says bootcamp, then copy what's there

[bronze token]

???

[spare oriole]

use your words, stop just spamming ????

[bronze token]

what do i click on

[bronze token]

mb

[spare oriole]

to the right of where it says bootcamp C:

[bronze token]

then what

[spare oriole]

then copy what's there

[bronze token]

i cant there is nothing

[spare oriole]

once you click on it, it should show you the whole path

[bronze token]

this is all it shows me

[spare oriole]

i said to the right, not on top of it.

you know what, let's try something else

[spare oriole]

right click on the funn file, it should show a list of options

find the one that says copy path

[bronze token]

sigh

[spare oriole]

click on properties now

[spare oriole]

wtf, it doesn't show the path? okay, let's try something else

open it with VS Code

[bronze token]

thats what im saying

[spare oriole]

^

[hidden raptor]

Its showing that funn.py is in C:\

[bronze token]

now what

[spare oriole]

do you see the file in the file explorer?

[bronze token]

yeah it said that before tho

[spare oriole]

then click on the Copy Path button

[hidden raptor]

Sorry I just came in. What's the problem?

[spare oriole]

he's a complete beginner who can't navifate the terminal

he needs to cd into the directory where funn is

[bronze token]

C:\funn.py

[spare oriole]

cool, now do

cd C:\ in the terminal

[bronze token]

didnt work

[spare oriole]

wdym it didn't work....

share details

we are not mind readers.

[bronze token]

takes me a bit to get the snap

[spare oriole]

you didn't do what i said

i said

cd C:\

[bronze token]

oh

it didnt do anything

well mabye idk

[spare oriole]

yes it did

now do

py funn.py

[bronze token]

yesss

oooo

yess

[hidden raptor]

What happens when you typed cd C:\ and hit enter? Can you share a screenshot?

[bronze token]

i feel good

[hidden raptor]

ah ok

[spare oriole]

powershell doesn't ring a bell or whistle when it changes directories

[bronze token]

i thought nothing but it put me in where my thingy was at

[hidden raptor]

I think all shells don't do that... unless there's a shell that actually does?

[bronze token]

how do i make my powershell look like that one guys

[spare oriole]

it requires some customization and frankly, it's beyond you

[hidden raptor]

https://ohmyposh.dev is a good start

[bronze token]

i thought almost all shells use bash and like idk what im talkin abt nvm

[bronze token]

oof

[bronze token]

ty

[bronze token]

where do you reccomend me to start?

[hidden raptor]

ooooh

[spare oriole]

this is warp, but kitty has the option too i believe

[hidden raptor]

That's probably a very annoying feature. Glad it has toggle option

[spare oriole]

there's a non-small number of people who actually use it

[spare oriole]

https://missing.csail.mit.edu

[bronze token]

i never got cs education ima just click on it

[spare oriole]

you don't need a CS education to learn what's in that course

i hope you actually read it, learn, and not guess the contents and then come here to spam with everything that the course covers and answers, like you've been doing all day

[thick ore]

the only thing i would remove is the vim part

it's not actually needed

[bronze token]

i will since its a video i have a lower attention span

[bronze token]

??? i have no idea what a vim is

[thick ore]

fancy text editor

inside the terminal

[bronze token]

ooo

[thick ore]

it's quite different from others

the keybindings are structured

you use hjkl to move, all that stuff

[hidden raptor]

https://vim-adventures.com/ if you wanna have a go at it

[stark prawn]

fun idea but it keeps resetting my cursor to the start of part 3 and idk why 😦

[hidden raptor]

You have 30 seconds to go through the entire text to try to reach the end to get the x key. Hint: spam the w and e.

[scarlet peak]

you should also upgrade to pwsh 7.5 (winget install Microsoft.PowerShell -e) and use the new windows terminal (winget install Microsoft.WindowsTerminal -e) over that goofy looking powershell window

[bronze token]

where do i go to install this pwsh 7.5 and the widget thingy

[scarlet peak]

just write it in whatever terminal you're in

powershell or cmd

[bronze token]

oh how do i excape this path

close and open it is

[scarlet peak]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-8063259

[bronze token]

the first one didnt work

[scarlet peak]

wdym "it didnt work"

whats your issue

[woeful phoenix]

worst censor of all time 💀

[bronze token]

ik :(

[bronze token]

2nd one doesnt work too

[scarlet peak]

damn what OS is this?

10 or 11?

[bronze token]

i think 10

[scarlet peak]

i swear winget is available on both

[bronze token]

whats the cmd to check that again?

[scarlet peak]

use powershell

[bronze token]

ok

but ummm whats the cmd that tells you your windows

[turbid heron]

I read that, and now time for some penetration testing 😉

[bronze token]

nooooooooooooooooo im supposed to be scared right>

[turbid heron]

Hehe

[turbid heron]

R u on windows 10? I thought on win11 it comes pre installed

[bronze token]

idk so ummm whats the cmd to check what windows im on

[turbid heron]

I mean you could just right click on this PC then hit on properties?

Or use Google

Usually we just do neofetch

[bronze token]

true

windows 10 home

[turbid heron]

Try ver

[bronze token]

didnt work

[bronze token]

wat dat

[turbid heron]

Yeah you need to install Winget or upgrade to win11

Just install Linux tbh

[bronze token]

later fr fr

[turbid heron]

It's free + no adds

• no bloat

[bronze token]

windows is free too and it doesnt have adds

[bronze token]

wdym bloat

[turbid heron]

All yours yk and Soo much customizations

[turbid heron]

Huh?

It literally shows adds when u do mod

[bronze token]

so how do i upgrade to windows 11

[turbid heron]

Bing, candy crush etc stuff that you don't need

[bronze token]

???

[turbid heron]

Also contains spyware

[turbid heron]

It's not free??

[bronze token]

it comes with candycrush?

[turbid heron]

U have to pay

[turbid heron]

R u using pirated windows?

[bronze token]

not for me

[bronze token]

wdym

[bronze token]

yeah why

[turbid heron]

💀

[bronze token]

im not speding money on that

[turbid heron]

💀

[bronze token]

whats the skull for so how do i upgrade to windows 11 lemme check

[turbid heron]

💀

U can't if ur using a pirated copy lol

[bronze token]

how does it know tho

bro why wont it let me upgrade i have the requirments i think

[scarlet peak]

press the windows key and type "about" then pick "about this pc"

[scarlet peak]

just activate it with a pirated key or smth

[meager sphinx]

you dont need windows 11 anyway

stay on 10

[bronze token]

wait tf i have 264 gigs but i cant use them im only using 34 or smth

how do i use all my storage

[meager sphinx]

store more data

[meager sphinx]

..........store more data ?

[scarlet peak]

store more stuff

[bronze token]

oh

[scarlet peak]

thats just the amount of data you have on the drive

[scarlet peak]

oh you need to resize your drive then

[bronze token]

so how do i get acces to all of it

[scarlet peak]

open disk manager

[meager sphinx]

damm

right click on the 196 gig space

format

create new partition

[bronze token]

i got a good deal on this laptob ok

[meager sphinx]

format as NTFS

[scarlet peak]

delete the middle
partition and expand the size of the C drive

[brittle void]

why so less space on that hard drive

alr

[meager sphinx]

backward expansion is weird

[scarlet peak]

just let the drive do its thing

[brittle void]

i think the c drive should be at front
idk how these allocation work

[scarlet peak]

it should. idk why its doing that

[meager sphinx]

what ?

[scarlet peak]

well it's empty so delete it

[meager sphinx]

click yes

[meager sphinx]

because someone partitioned it wrong obviously

[bronze token]

deleted

[scarlet peak]

let it just move data back to the beginning or whatever. you'll be stuck with a tiny drive otherwise

[scarlet peak]

now right click on the C volume and click resize

[bronze token]

which is that again?

[meager sphinx]

i doubt it works taht way

if i recall correctly , the tool only lets you expand in "forward" direction

[scarlet peak]

literally the volume marked C

[meager sphinx]

it wont show you the expand option if the emtpy space is Behind the partition

[scarlet peak]

eh we'll see

[meager sphinx]

ig we will find out

[scarlet peak]

schiesse

[bronze token]

???

im nervous i just deleted something that i got a warning for

[scarlet peak]

@meager sphinx you were right

[meager sphinx]

xdd

[scarlet peak]

ok change the drive letter to D

[meager sphinx]

dont

[scarlet peak]

we'll make a new partition in the empty space and move it back

[meager sphinx]

dont change the C drive name to D

[bronze token]

how and why is he saying dont

[meager sphinx]

you might fuck shit up

never touch boot drive

[bronze token]

thats what im scared of

[scarlet peak]

• change to D:
• make C: in the massive empty space
• copy everything from D: to C:
• delete D:
• expand C:

[brittle void]

dont do this

[meager sphinx]

THATS DEFINATELY A BIG NONO

[bronze token]

joke??

[meager sphinx]

even if it works , its extremely risky

[brittle void]

windows is fixated to be installed in c drive

[meager sphinx]

you dont just "copy" boot drive

[bronze token]

what happens if it doesnt

[brittle void]

you might as well just reinstall the os

[bronze token]

how do i save all my stuff

[brittle void]

what do you have in it?

[scarlet peak]

well you're basically cooked otherwise

i fear it could be over

[bronze token]

stuff

[scarlet peak]

specific?

[meager sphinx]

...it breaks , it might not do somethings correctly

its a very complicated machine and hard to predict what exactly will go wrong

you might get stuck in boot loops, your window might malfunction

or it might even work just fine

but like , its removing a random screw from engine of F1 car and hoping it doesnt blow up

[bronze token]

passwards etc

[scarlet peak]

just copy it to a USB drive and reinstall windows

you can keep everything in your user profile when you reset

[brittle void]

do you have any usb, external hard drive?
or might as well just take a backup of everything into smth like gdrive

[scarlet peak]

i have to know how the hell this happened

[bronze token]

ok good thing i have one laying around

[brittle void]

i think windows does have a feature to crate backups

[bronze token]

a 2 tb one

[meager sphinx]

take a backup of all your data onto a USB drive and then reinstall windows

when installing , make sure to give the whole drive as C drive

[bronze token]

what?

[brittle void]

maybe not the whole drive?

[bronze token]

where do i go to do this

[meager sphinx]

its 250 gigs drive , what meaningful partitions are you gonna make in that 😂

[meager sphinx]

any computer shop guy should be able to do that for you easily

[bronze token]

ok i have a 2tb drive in my hands rn what do i do

[bronze token]

im not near a computer shop guy

[brittle void]

you make a pendrive into a bootable one
you need to flash a windows iso into it

[meager sphinx]

copy every single image , video , folder and any data that you have stored on your computer onto the 2 tb drive

[bronze token]

whats a pendrive

[brittle void]

usb drive

[bronze token]

ok ty

why usbs so much cheaper than hardrives btw

[meager sphinx]

actually , its just 40 gigs of data isnt it ?

just copy your whole C drive onto the 2 tb drive

[meager sphinx]

becuae hard drives have capaacities like 500 gb, 1000 gb , 2000gb

and USB sticks have capacities like 8 gb , 16 gb , 32 gb ,etc etc

[bronze token]

howd you get back there?

[bronze token]

i thought mine has 2tb tho

[meager sphinx]

"thought" ? bro plug it in and check the size wtf

[bronze token]

975 gb

[meager sphinx]

so its a 1tb hard drive

[bronze token]

nice, usb drive nerd emoji

[meager sphinx]

what

you good bro ?

[bronze token]

so how do i copy all my data plus windows and how did the other guy show back up

[bronze token]

oops

doing multiple things at once sryy

[meager sphinx]

open the C drive in the my computer app (where you normally see all t he files and folers)

then press ctrl +a, it will select all the folders

then press ctrl + c to copy it

then go to the hard drive you connect to your PC , in side it , right click and click on paste

[brittle void]

also, you dont have to copy the C:/Windows folder

[bronze token]

but like how did disk 0 come back

[brittle void]

you cant move partitons

[meager sphinx]

it never went away , you just deleted it as "partition"

[bronze token]

oh

[meager sphinx]

lets say you have a 1000 gb hard drive.
you can create partitions in that drive (Like C , D , E )

and each partition acts like its own disk

[bronze token]

i dont have a my computer app somehow?

[bronze token]

oh

[meager sphinx]

how do you usually copy paste files on your computer ? just do that , and make sure to copy paste everything in the drive C

[bronze token]

so where is the drive c at tho

nvm

[brittle void]

also do note this
you dont have to copy everything
because you should not change/overwrite anything in this folder after reinstallation

[bronze token]

my passwords and like customizations to my browser are saved on the c drive right?

[meager sphinx]

just let them copy everything , or explain how to exclude it from copying

the hwole thing is 40 gig in size . it might take a while , but just let them do it

[meager sphinx]

if you have saved those passwords in chrome so that they are autofilled , then they are indeed saved on the C drive

[bronze token]

ok ty

[bronze token]

too late i already cancled it and only downloaded the other stuff

this will take only 114,265 seconds how long is that

lets see

wait 31 hours that cant be right

oh wait no its 31 minutes

[turbid heron]

Bro u have like 655 mb left just install rofus

[bronze token]

whats that

[turbid heron]

And install arch iso on the d drive

Make a bootable USB

[bronze token]

isnt that like for hardcore programers

[turbid heron]

Use a stable os

Stop w that pirated windows shi

Learn how to read manual

[thick ore]

Dude

[bronze token]

fine i like windows tho

[thick ore]

Are you for real calling arch a stable distro

[turbid heron]

Sure u do

[turbid heron]

Anything is better than pirated windows

[thick ore]

That thing breaks every other week

[bronze token]

whats manual

[thick ore]

Use mint or fedora

[bronze token]

i like the sound of mint

so where do i get mint im converting to linux

[thick ore]

You will like the look too, considering u come from windows

[bronze token]

i heard you cant get steam on linux thats a lie right?

[meager sphinx]

are you really trolling someone by telling them to install linux who is having trouble copy pasting files ?

[bronze token]

oooo

[late orchid]

Steam Deck is Linux lol

[bronze token]

lol

[turbid heron]

Also I think you'd need some kinda funny software to extend c drive now

[brittle void]

dont use rufus

[bronze token]

few

[meager sphinx]

thats why we are getting them to copy over the important data , reinstall windows

[brittle void]

download a windows 10 iso
and use ventoy to make your usb into a bootable one

[turbid heron]

No it irks me bcz they are using pirated windows Just get Ubuntu

[meager sphinx]

rufus is fine bruv

[brittle void]

yeah, maybe

[bronze token]

hear me out what if you merged windows and linux

[thick ore]

You get wine or wsl

[meager sphinx]

thats your preference , why you bullyin a noob because of that

[bronze token]

umm mac and linux

[turbid heron]

WHAT BULLYYY

I didn't insult them or anything 😭

Just sharing my opinion

[thick ore]

Idk

They're both Unix tho

[bronze token]

whats unix bro

[thick ore]

U are sharing advice not opinions

[bronze token]

so does linux take up less space then windows and is it faster

[thick ore]

In most cases yes

The faster part depends really

[bronze token]

i have joined the linux cult well not yet where do i join

how do i keep all my windows date and move over to linux

[woeful phoenix]

be careful with the backup...

[thick ore]

I'm not even sure if you should switch yet

[turbid heron]

What distro do you use?

[bronze token]

yeah im really worried about it

[woeful phoenix]

NixOS / Arch dual boot
typing from Arch rn

[thick ore]

But If you really want to, back your important stuff up

[bronze token]

uhhhhh

[meager sphinx]

skip

[thick ore]

Am going to sleep gn

[turbid heron]

Arch iso is like 1 gb lol but yeah most distros take much less space than windows

[bronze token]

help

[turbid heron]

Guigoguoguiiiiiguiiiiiiieeeguii 💦

[bronze token]

whats going on

[meager sphinx]

tick the box that says " do this for all current items" and press skip

[bronze token]

is that really ok

[green pelican]

Just looks like some old log files that don't exist anymore

[bronze token]

that seems kinda bad

[woeful phoenix]

if these files don't exist, why is Windows trying to copy them? how are there just leftover records of these in the filesystem?

[meager sphinx]

honestly , i told you to copy the whole drive because i really cant tell what data you have stored where

you dont need to copy the whole drive, you should only copy the stuff that you stored on the drive yourself

[green pelican]

Windows being windows

[bronze token]

so where is the linux cult sign up sheet

[bronze token]

yeah

[green pelican]

Maybe there were shortcuts that weren't removed with the originals

[woeful phoenix]

did they get deleted in the time between starting the copy process (which I assume involves listing all the files to be copied) and when it comes time to actually copy?

[bronze token]

idk

but where in the world is the linux sign up sheets and how do i choose which linux to use

[green pelican]

Use mint

It's the easiest to fix when you break it

[bronze token]

lol

[meager sphinx]

~~ https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ ~~

https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/noble/

[green pelican]

And you will break it don't worry

[woeful phoenix]

we have 24.04 LTS now, right?

[bronze token]

so umm whats ubuntu

[timid latch]

I would argue NixOs is easier to fix, you can basically roll back everything down to your NeoVim plugins.
(But also don't use NixOs, it's basically the worst distro to start on)

[woeful phoenix]

... I was going to say

[meager sphinx]

oh true , i just googled download ubuntu and gave the first one that came up lol

[green pelican]

Nix is a learning curve for anyone not just beginners

[bronze token]

ok ima go watch a linux video

[green pelican]

Personally i think gentoo is a great starting point /jjjjjj

[woeful phoenix]

the rollback-ability you can achieve even on other distros with btrfs/zfs/bcachefs(?) I think

[green pelican]

And timeshift or whatever

[woeful phoenix]

openSUSE provides integrations for it with btrfs, as does Fedora IIRC

[bronze token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKCVKw9CzFo

[timid latch]

Basically the main thing about which distro you pick is just the default loadouts it has, you can do basically anything on any distro

[bronze token]

oh so unix is old linux

[woeful phoenix]

not quite

[bronze token]

????

oh

so where is the linux sign up sheet

[timid latch]

That's not a thing

[woeful phoenix]

it's more of a family of OSes
there are modern OSes which are UNIX
Linux is UNIX-like but not "true" certified UNIX™®

[bronze token]

so where do i get mint

and do i just copy and paste all the stuff i downloaded into mint

[timid latch]

You download the iso and flash it onto a USB drive

[bronze token]

whats an iso and wdym by flash

[timid latch]

You can't transfer programs between windows and Linux, and settings are gonna be stored in different locations

[bronze token]

so how do i transfer my data

[timid latch]

Backup your important data files like code, images, etc.
For stuff like passwords sync them to the cloud or back them up to a text file

[bronze token]

oh ok

you need a usb to install linux mint?

[timid latch]

Or well any external storage, USBs are just the easiest

Could also be an external hard drive, even a second disk on your PC (I think? Haven't done that myself), hell you can use rooted android phone

[bronze token]

do you think it would be possible to install linux on that empty space that i cant use

[woeful phoenix]

it's not relevant to this situation but
if you have a bootloader like GRUB installed, you can (with a considerable amount of messing around) get it to boot an ISO from one of your partitions

[bronze token]

whats an iso

[woeful phoenix]

it's really something that I think should be easier than it is... especially if I have a lot of RAM, just let me load the disk image into memory and then I could even use the ISO from a disk to overwrite its own partition

[timid latch]

Effectively a way to store the state of a disk in a file

[bronze token]

oh

so umm which flavor thingy of mint should i use

[woeful phoenix]

I think Cinnamon is the best

[bronze token]

ok but umm is there anyway to use my empty space and put mint on there

and how would i swap between mint and windows

[timid latch]

That's what's called a dual boot, and yes is possible

[bronze token]

oh nice

so how would i do that

rufus interesting

[timid latch]

Yep that's the go-to tool for creating a bootable USB

[bronze token]

now i have only one usb and all my data is on it turning it into this linux installer wont mess with any of the other stuff right?

[sharp jasper]

you should not do that

[timid latch]

It will, flashing a usb overwrites all the data on it

[sharp jasper]

probably best to obtain a new flash drive

[bronze token]

then where do i put my data :(

[timid latch]

☁️

[green pelican]

You're gonna need a different drive or the cloud

[bronze token]

how do i store stuff to the cloud

[woeful phoenix]

if you have free space on one of your disks (the one you're not going to overwrite with Mint, that is) you could copy it there

[sharp jasper]

also if all your data is only stored in one flash drive, you're asking for it, in terms of data loss

[bronze token]

oh ok

[sharp jasper]

backups 👍

[woeful phoenix]

you most likely have a Google account, right? that gives you something like 15 GB of Drive storage

[green pelican]

Mega.nz will give you 15gig too

[bronze token]

yeah i have a google account

[bronze token]

15 gb for free

[bronze token]

how do i access this hidden power

[woeful phoenix]

https://drive.google.com

[timid latch]

GitHub is also a option

(does GitHub have a limit?)

[green pelican]

Just know it will be in copilot training data

I wouldn't put anything personal on github

[bronze token]

oml i have space

[bronze token]

oh lol

[glossy niche]

im using it to sync my obsidian vaultt lo l

[green pelican]

Rip

[glossy niche]

nah my vault doesnt contain much info

but i sohuld probably find a diff provider

[green pelican]

I've been using bitbucket for years

Pretty chill

[bronze token]

how much space does this mint iso take up

2.8 gigs ok ima have to install this on the usb

2.8 gigs is so big

[glossy niche]

shitbucket...............................................

[bronze token]

is copilot any good it learns off our data so it has to be right?

[timid latch]

It's good at doing very common stuff

So depends on your usecase

For what I'm doing I found it mainly got in the way

In other news I just smashed the refrigerator door into my soda can and it sprayed all over my shirt

[bronze token]

i really need help pls help me someone

how do i make the device thing turn into my usb

[scarlet peak]

i just use the windows media creation tool

it handles everything for you, it just takes some time

[bronze token]

should i use that

[scarlet peak]

sure

[bronze token]

i dont have it nvm

[woeful phoenix]

does that work with Linux ISOs?

[scarlet peak]

windows media

[woeful phoenix]

yeah, but fun is trying to make a Linux Mint install USB

[scarlet peak]

i had no idea OP was trying to add a linux iso, mb

[scarlet peak]

doesnt mint have a page for that?

[bronze token]

i just want linux mint

no but help pls

rufus my boy isnt showing my usb

[bronze token]

welp umm

[turbid heron]

Just select iso do ready bro?

And ur device ofc

[bronze token]

but i cant select the usb

[turbid heron]

Also file system

Ext right?

[turbid heron]

What happens when you click on device?

[bronze token]

nothing

[turbid heron]

Bruh?

[turbid heron]

That's impossible

[bronze token]

where do i click?

[turbid heron]

On device?

The first button

With a down arrow

[bronze token]

this?

[turbid heron]

Yeah

[bronze token]

i clicked on it see

[turbid heron]

...

For how long have you been using computer btw:)

[bronze token]

ive been using windows on it for idk months i think not years yet

[turbid heron]

Oh fair

[bronze token]

i dont remember when i put windows on it

[turbid heron]

So it doesn't do anything when you click on it?

[bronze token]

well it turns blue

[bronze token]

close enough to yes ima say yes

[turbid heron]

Are you able to select the iso image tho?

[bronze token]

yes

[turbid heron]

And file system?

[bronze token]

im having trouble installing it tho it takes up alot of space

i keep getting an unfinshed iso

[turbid heron]

What takes alot of space?

[bronze token]

the mint thingy

[turbid heron]

How much is it?

The size?

[bronze token]

2.8 gigs

[turbid heron]

I mean you could install it on your d drive no?

U have alot of space in it?

[bronze token]

ive tried for some some reason it wont work ima try google drive

[turbid heron]

Dang

[bronze token]

wait why is my space so low

i just deleted like everything i should have 2 gigs

[turbid heron]

Wouldn't it be slow if you write to the USB from Google drive 🤔

[bronze token]

e

ryunjix

[turbid heron]

Firstly you shouldn't have deleted your d drive 😭

[bronze token]

oh i forgot to delete them from recycle bin

[bronze token]

wdym my d drive

[bronze token]

if i install linux will windows be deleted

and all my data will be stored in windows still right?

[green pelican]

great input

[glossy niche]

maybe i wil shit the bucket and actually use it

ty

[rough sapphire]

@bronze token you can also download virtually by softwares like vmware and virtualbox

[bronze token]

i understand like 20 percent of what you said what

idk but why cant i select my drive as an option in rufus

[vapid nymph]

am i missing any of the pep517 packagers frontends (and the ones that aren't too)?
flit, hatch, pdm, poetry

[solemn tulip]

is uv one of them?

[vapid nymph]

not yet a packager

[turbid heron]

Did you fix it

[round pendant]

||for #python-discussion because no image perms||

[worn mango]

that's so good

[rough sapphire]

that looks sick

[worn mango]

how do I setup it like that?

[rough sapphire]

this is what i got

[round pendant]

uhh
disable everything

[worn mango]

mine is so trash

[rough sapphire]

thats defaullt

[worn mango]

yes

[green pelican]

mine is better

[rough sapphire]

why some of the keywords are just comically big 😭

[worn mango]

there are to many settings in vscode's settings

[worn mango]

do you use linux?

[round pendant]

uhh i can try isolating the debloating part of my config.json and send it

[green pelican]

yes

[rough sapphire]

what is going on over here

[worn mango]

oh sure, I would appreciate that

[worn mango]

cool, which windows manager do you use?

[green pelican]

must have been high

[rough sapphire]

nice joke

lolll

[green pelican]

no not joking

[rough sapphire]

[green pelican]

yeah thats wild

uhhhh let me go uhhhhh

while statement ahh

[rough sapphire]

lmfao

[round pendant]

{
    "window.titleBarStyle": "custom",
    "window.menuBarVisibility": "compact",
    "window.commandCenter": false,
    "window.restoreWindows": "none",
    "workbench.activityBar.location": "hidden",
    "workbench.statusBar.visible": false,
    "workbench.sideBar.location": "right",
    "workbench.editor.showTabs": "none",
    "workbench.editor.editorActionsLocation": "hidden",
    "workbench.layoutControl.enabled": false,
    "workbench.startupEditor": "none",
    "breadcrumbs.enabled": false,
    "editor.minimap.enabled": false,
    "editor.scrollbar.verticalScrollbarSize": 0,
}

im not sure if thats it? i also disabled some things by right click->disableing them when i still had them, not sure if that writes to the json or some other thing

[worn mango]

thx!

[rough sapphire]

that was prety straightforward lol i didn't expect that

[round pendant]

oh and for the theme to match the wallpaper i use pywal

[green pelican]

although i see what i was doing now, i was just checking if no bytes were returned and throwing an error

[worn mango]

like this, right?

[rough sapphire]

try saving

and restarting

[worn mango]

yes, it worked

that's good

[worn mango]

which extensions do you use for making the background and accents like that?

[rough sapphire]

they said pywal

[round pendant]

uh the wallpaper is visible because i set opacity in my hyprland config
not sure what you mean by accents

[worn mango]

Ok

while for workspace and project folders how do you organize?

[round pendant]

i dont have big enough projects for this to be a problem, just clearly named modules

[green pelican]

rip cpu

[worn mango]

wait, 2 windows opened, how do I close the one on the right?

[worn mango]

Ok

[round pendant]

do ctrl shift p and look for close group hotkey stuff, set some good keybinds that would make sense for yourself

i use the neovim extension so i'd just :q it (q standing for quit)

[worn mango]

Ok done

[green pelican]

the syn flood is crazy

[unkempt python]

Ew, emacs

[unkempt python]

Ooh, wireshark

[bleak lintel]

emacs is great

[unkempt python]

Ew vscode, ooh good looking vscode, oh deja vu

[unkempt python]

Ik

But

NEVER

(Again)

[bronze token]

no

bro why cant i get this to work :(

[bronze token]

that backround is crazy

bro why wont rufus work i just wanna use all my space please help

[green pelican]

there is a femboy in it

mwhahhahahah

[bronze token]

that is crazy

[bronze token]

so umm would you help me

yk ima reboot take that then i hope it will work

[green pelican]

sure

whats going on

[bronze token]

it wont tho (99.99999999percent chance it wont)

[scarlet peak]

cert likes boys

[green pelican]

🤯

[green pelican]

so

you have the bootable disk

you need to plug the usb in and get into your boot screen then pick it

[scarlet peak]

i do i do

[bronze token]

I FUGED UP

[green pelican]

what happened

[bronze token]

SOMEHOW MY MACOS THINGY GOT DELTED NOOOOO

NOOO

[green pelican]

wdym

[bronze token]

i was gonna check to see if i could mabye use all my space on there

[green pelican]

did you run the mint installer?

[bronze token]

so this was orginally a macos macbook but i put windows on it

[green pelican]

mhm

[bronze token]

i couldnt

rufus wouldnt work bro

[green pelican]

how would your windows partition get deleted then?

or mac

[bronze token]

wdym the mac portion did

[green pelican]

was there anything on it?

and what did you do to delete it?

[bronze token]

idk i did delete the d drive i had like nothing on the mac side mabye macos was on that empty space

[green pelican]

it shouldnt have been deleted unless you specifically overwrote that partition by installing mint or you just cooked it with a command or tool

[bronze token]

just macos i used the features that were built into it

[green pelican]

you can most likely reinstall it

[bronze token]

a while ago a deleted this storage thing

[bronze token]

i cant even select my usb on rufus

[bronze token]

how do you install macos

[green pelican]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102662#bootable

[green pelican]

so you are on a macbook?

[bronze token]

do you have to buy it is it like windows

[bronze token]

yeah

[green pelican]

i wonder if mac hardware is fucking with rufus.. idk though

[bronze token]

hmm idk

[green pelican]

im assuming it would detect you are on a macbook

[bronze token]

oh few but how much would it cost otherwise

[green pelican]

i would try to make the bootable iso from macOS so you can use a tool native to the machine

[green pelican]

no idea

i hope you are enjoying this experience because it will happen again with linux

[bronze token]

oh ok i dont really care abt mint i just want the 200 gigs i cant reach

[green pelican]

are they in a partition?

[bronze token]

idk i forgot how i got to where i saw this ima restart again to see if its there

its gone :(

if only you could fully ful screen with macos i never would of installed windows

[bronze token]

helpppppp

i have an i5 intel proccesor atleast i think if thats what its asking but idk

[bronze token]

this

[bronze token]

oops no here it is

[fast orchid]

i5 is the intel based

[bronze token]

ok i give up ima just go to a computer store to unlock this storage that i cant acess

[bronze token]

oh and apparently macos is installed but i just cant get to it

[bronze token]

@pulsar gate sorry for the ping but which of these would stuff like code wars be at

[pulsar gate]

I've never been to codewars

[bronze token]

well leetcode those things idk what their called

[brittle void]

guys, is there a way to make it load even faster?
im importing psreadline, oh my posh, zoxide, winget command not found, terminal icons
and i have some custom psreadline shortcuts for my pwsh too

[idle elbow]

hi hi hi

[scarlet peak]

you can time whatever you're loading and see what's taking the longest

[System]::Diagnostics.Stopwatch() i think it is

[vale raven]

Not importing those things

[brittle void]

but i need them

[vale raven]

🤨

[brittle void]

what modules do u really use then?

do you atleast use zoxide?

[vale raven]

For PowerShell? None.

[brittle void]

then what shell do you use for windows?
wsl?

[vale raven]

Sometimes
I use both
I use PowerShell for Windows things like Winget and quick things like quoting CSVs

Why are you assuming I don’t use PowerShell at all just because I don’t modify it?

I’m literally a Windows sysadmin

[brittle void]

i cant imagine you haven't customized your shell while you use it

thats why

[sharp jasper]

not everyone is a customizer

[scarlet peak]

not good enough

[brittle void]

guys, does anyone have these column markers in nvim?

[scarlet peak]

no because i use a real editor

|| fastest method for ragebaiting in a programming space ||

[brittle void]

then that question is not for u

[timid latch]

I dont, why?

[brittle void]

just asking

[fringe rain]

i used to have them on my kickstarter.nvim based config i think

[solemn tulip]

:help colorcolumn

[solemn tulip]

also wtf is up with your status line

[brittle void]

its nvchad
and it haven't loaded the nvchad theme

thats why it looks like that

[solemn tulip]

so was the thing colorcolumns?

[brittle void]

maybe

just now installed that virus

so i need time to setup

[solemn tulip]

:set colorcolumns?

[brittle void]

i already have my nvim config

i just need to make it import

[upper flower]

yes vscode

[unkempt python]

Hail nah

[turbid heron]

Yo isn't that too small for you? The font size?

[scarlet peak]

isnt that zoxide?

[bronze token]

lol

[scarlet peak]

just a slight increase in activity

[bronze token]

fr

[brittle void]

nope, its alright for me

[brittle void]

its pwsh script for oh my posh

[upper flower]

whats so good bout nvim

just use vscode

[brittle void]

im a vsc user

in pc

but i use nvim in my phone

[upper flower]

oh

[raven cipher]

can I ask you guys for something in the topic of socializing

[upper flower]

ye

[raven cipher]

do you guys think that people who seek a woman or a man companion to fulfil the their lust or to not be lonely

[upper flower]

i- im not sure if this is even allowed to discuss here

[raven cipher]

hmm

fair enough if that is so

[upper flower]

but yeah nothing wrong with that

[raven cipher]

with which one of "that"

[upper flower]

ur question isnt quite clear

[raven cipher]

okay, in another terms

do people try to find a girlfriend or boyfriend to furfil their lustful desire or to not be lonely

[upper flower]

I think at first its to cope with loneliness but as the relationship moves forward, yeah other stuff kicks in

[raven cipher]

hmm

but, if the problem is loneliness, isn't the attempt to find a friend the right choice

[upper flower]

True. I think the reason they go for a girlfriend is because they are inspired by those people on social media acting all happy with their girlfriend when their actual life is horrible.

[raven cipher]

hmm... Ive never lamented the possibility that the motivation came from social media.

[upper flower]

It does. If not, where else?

[raven cipher]

Social motivated activity, where friends became the major motivator, after that: family

I think. for they are more real compared to social media

[paper quest]

What, nobody acknowledges the biological imperatives instilled in us by evolution?

[raven cipher]

Hmm. Depends on the context of the cultrue

[paper quest]

I guess that might be covered by the "lustful desires", huh?

[upper flower]

thats true

[paper quest]

The real answer is that seeking out partners has conferred an evolutionary advantage, in that you're more likely to survive if you have people to help you, you're more likely to reproduce if you "fulfill your lustful desires" and you're more likely to bring your child to reproductive age if you're two about it. The reason most people stick to one partner is probably social, but it's all rooted in evolution and survival.

[raven cipher]

based on the context of biological neccecity, yes. But, based on culture, it might be tied to certain diety

[paper quest]

I'm not gonna win over any religious friends by saying this, but I believe religion is an explanation invented to fit the human narrative rather than a cause for anything 😉 It's not "God say only one partner, therefore humans tend to be monogamous", it's "humans tend to be monogamous, therefore God said so".

[upper flower]

Disagreed 🙃

[paper quest]

Fair 😛

[raven cipher]

hmm

[upper flower]

Do u mean like

if humans are killing each other, its bcz god said so?

[raven cipher]

there are no indication from that statement that states THAT

[upper flower]

did i misunderstand the last line

[paper quest]

No, I mean that people use God to justify their already extant behavior. People kill people because of whatever internal drives they have, then attribute that to God.

[upper flower]

Yeah, they intend to put the blame on God when deep inside, they know they're wrong

[raven cipher]

I wondered if the theory that we pick who we prefer based on the smell rather than look is true now

[upper flower]

I'd look at both 🙏

[raven cipher]

you can't look at smell

[upper flower]

You can smell the smell

[raven cipher]

I can't smell, so no.

[upper flower]

Why not

[raven cipher]

but, okay, people do check for smell

idk,

it is just what it is

The only thing I can smell is rubbing alchohol, or vicks

[paper quest]

Hrm. I'll moderate my statement. I wouldn't say that every person invents their own God to justify entirely internal behavior. God certainly is a social construct, just like our behavior is largely a social construct. But that social construct has itself evolved because it confers an evolutionary advantage, and social evolution and biological evolution probably reinforce each other at least to some extent.

[raven cipher]

you know, the smell that hurts your nose

[paper quest]

I don't see why that wouldn't be possible in theory. It's not what most people do - at least not go by smell alone - but you can imagine a world in which we would. Maybe a world in total darkness, where eyes never developed.

[upper flower]

I'd agree with human behavior being a social construct. But that's it. @paper quest

[upper flower]

Try a perfume maybe?

[raven cipher]

I hate perfume,

they sting my skin

For some reason

[upper flower]

Weird

You dont gotta put it on skin just put it on clothes

[raven cipher]

you don't

but, I don't think it's neccecary

How can you spray a perfume when you don't know what you can't smell

[upper flower]

Welp that is a you problem lol i can smell it

[raven cipher]

I don't think you want to eat when you don't know what you are eating

[upper flower]

its a "you" problem 😄

[raven cipher]

Alright

now im curious

do you have a gf

[upper flower]

neh my religion doesnt allow it

[raven cipher]

ah I see

[upper flower]

even if it did allow, from what i've seen it mostly ends in breakup.

[paper quest]

Even if it mostly ends in breakup, I don't think that's necessarily an argument not to do it. Most lives end in death, yet that doesn't prevent us from living.

[upper flower]

I am saying its a total waste of time.

[raven cipher]

seems like depressing.

[paper quest]

So is life.

[upper flower]

its not

[paper quest]

Why not? What does it matter when you're gone?

[upper flower]

nah its good. i'd focus on my career and then have a good life afterwards

[paper quest]

What's the value of a relationship? Is it that it still exists when one of you dies, or is it the experience you had along the way?

[upper flower]

Are you an atheist?

if so i cant make u understand

[raven cipher]

On the other hand of depressing

[paper quest]

Ah, I see 😛 We're at an impasse.

[upper flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/849215692330631168.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[paper quest]

Is there anything you do in your life that's not a waste of time and also isn't just to please the man in the sky?

[raven cipher]

oh no.

I have nothing about this one topic

bye

[paper quest]

Oh no, I scared them away 😦

[raven cipher]

bro, I just asked about eartly shit, why do you devolve it into the idea of religion

[paper quest]

It's an interesting discussion!

[raven cipher]

why

[upper flower]

Nothing I do is a waste of time. Well..except watching youtube. Like when coding, it's to develop a career so I can be ready for my future but I think at the same time but I am not sure if I'd do that to please my God. I might be doing it unknowingly.

[upper flower]

im trying not to get ragebaited gng 😭

[raven cipher]

no shit, sherlock

[paper quest]

I'm genuinely just trying to understand people's viewpoints here. I don't share your worldview, but that doesn't mean I can't find it interesting 🤔

What I'm getting at is, what would it take for you to think that having a relationship is not a waste of time? What would have to come out of it for you to say "yeah, that was worth it"?

Because to me, having the experience of a relationship is valuable. That is enough. Even if it might end in a fiery explosion, I'll still have experienced and learned and grown.

[upper flower]

I guess not being lonely and spending a good time together and if it brings me closer to God and I guess just yk raising good children and i think it also helps u become more mature and just have more patience with stuff

It's a waste of time if:

It distracts me from my purpose in life.

It leads to things not allowed in my religion.

It causes me to lose myself morally or spiritually.

[glossy niche]

what is ur purpose in life

[upper flower]

Worship God, leave a good example and try to be someone others around me can look up to and just helping others when possible 🙂

[brittle void]

making love

[paper quest]

Okay, here's a question for you: Say you don't know in advance whether taking an action (e.g. embarking upon a relationship, but it could be anything, really), is going to be "a waste of time" or not, according to your evaluation function. How do you make a decision regarding whether to take the action? On the one hand, you risk "wasting time". On the other hand, you risk missing out on something that might have been a good experience, something that might have helped you mature or get closer to God.

[paper quest]

At least your purpose isn't loving Make. God, that would be dreary.

[brittle void]

english?

[woeful phoenix]

someone's gotta maintain it...

[glossy niche]

sounds neat, mine is downfall of Microsoft

[upper flower]

If I am about to do something in life and I don't know if it would be a waste of time or not. I would just start and leave it to God. If it were to be a relationship and it starts getting messy, I'd look into myself and try to find where I am wrong but I think once I hit my limit (like i cant do it anymore) I'd accept it as God's will and he knows whats best for me and just leave it.