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thick osprey
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My brain read german from the embed while I was looking for how to spell spiral

carmine apex
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0 for 2

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The Tehachapi Loop is a 3,779-foot-long (0.72 mi; 1.15 km) spiral, or helix, on the Union Pacific Railroad Mojave Subdivision through Tehachapi Pass, of the Tehachapi Mountains in Kern County, south-central California. The line connects Bakersfield and the San Joaquin Valley to Mojave in the Mojave Desert.
Rising at a steady two-percent grade, t...

thick osprey
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That's cali though. Doesn't count. They were one billionare's bad choices away from figuring the entire solution out.

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fucking hyperloops my ass

carmine apex
thick osprey
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Trains are cool

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clickity clack, down the track

scarlet peak
carmine apex
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funny thing is, it says we have 9, 6 currently running. germany has 2, with one being heritage (read: doesn't count)

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plus, the advantage of the US's 100-car mile-long trains (not a joke, btw sobmeltdown) is that trains are so huge they can spiral over themselves

solemn tulip
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🇨🇭

thick osprey
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The freight trains don't move slow because they can't move fast...

carmine apex
solemn tulip
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Switzerland: We go through mountains

thick osprey
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Seen three derailed while I was waiting. That's not a lot, but unfortunately a high number.

solemn tulip
thick osprey
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Still remember the day I had to drive an extra thirty minutes out of my way to get around a train that had a section derail.

carmine apex
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when norfolk southern bombed east palestine a few years back the news was constant "the electonic instabrakes coulda stopped this" and rail people were like "wut. no. having trains less than 5 light-years long and requiring maintenance on them coulda stopped it"

solemn tulip
thick osprey
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more like: good foundation, let's build there

glossy niche
thick osprey
glossy niche
solemn tulip
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yes

glossy niche
glossy niche
thick osprey
glossy niche
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I do remember passing next to a freight train as a kid and thinking it was obscenely long

solemn tulip
thick osprey
# glossy niche <:yert:832277526809149461>

Here ya go, these are small ones. Only 1-2 engines. these crossings divide cities/towns. Over and under passes are far and few in between

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carmine apex
# thick osprey I've read this six times now. My soaked brain cannot figure out how the words ar...

right, so in 2023 a norfolk southern train carrying hazardous materials derailed in east palestine, ohio, causing a big ol problem.

a common thing blamed for the derailment was the lack of ECP brakes, which are electrically controlled, so when somebody presses the "brake" button, it fires a radio pulse to other ECP units instead of waiting on pneumatic flow or similar older things.

but the big reason the train derailed because

  • it takes a lot of energy to bring a big train to a stop, and us trains are biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig for 💰💰💰 reasons
  • the train wasn't maintained super well, because hiring maintenance staff costs money, which subtracts from 💰, which is better spent preventing the fed train inspectors from having the budget to do their job
  • the train uh-oh detector did not send information to the train engineers, but corporate, who did not relay it
spare oriole
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i remember this

thick osprey
glossy niche
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like it's literally the plot if a children's environmentalist movie where the villains have no motivation beyond "money"

carmine apex
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average us freight line tbh

grave cove
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ive visited some of these they're kinda trash

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like preocts said you pay for what you get

carmine apex
grave cove
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my current place is pretty nice, $724 with 4 roomates

carmine apex
scarlet peak
thick osprey
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it's ohio

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is there a difference?

grave cove
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diabolical

thick osprey
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that i am. I'm drunk. I've got my first solid meal for the day. I'm grumpy and ohio is an easy target >:3

glossy niche
glossy niche
shadow rivet
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Starship v2 is cursed.

small coral
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mostly because fire and explosion and fire and explosions are cool

glossy niche
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yeah

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tax payer funded fireworks

small coral
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spacex?

glossy niche
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iirc they get money from the gov

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us gov that is

small coral
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i think there's probably more significant tax waste somewhere else

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since NASA gets only like .5% of the government budget i don't think spacex could be taking that much more

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so in conclusion, cool firework

glossy niche
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yeah

scarlet peak
lament cairn
glossy niche
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yknow, made by the other n@zis who make rockets

glossy niche
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lets talk about cats instead actually

lament cairn
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blockhead

glossy niche
lament cairn
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big cat
serval

are they supid

green pelican
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jesus christ

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i get 901 sqf for ~1700

tardy rain
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Yall are cute with your cheap ass apartments

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Im out here shelling out £2000 for a 1bed, 540sqft

stark prawn
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at that price you better own the place and that's a mortgage

tardy rain
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Mortgage would be cheaper

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Or maybe not at 4.6% interest

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🤷‍♀️

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Rent went up 500£ in 3 years and then the gov has the balls to say inflation is actually 3%

raven cipher
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you guys got beds in US

brittle void
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yeah, beds in cars

raven cipher
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is car qualified as homes in the US

sharp jasper
raven cipher
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if I may state a honest opinion about your living situation in USA

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man, you guys have the wierdest living style

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I mean, you guys normalized living in a car

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a truck

sharp jasper
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that's
not really normalized

raven cipher
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Wait... back up

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how normal is living in a car in USA

brittle void
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there are people who show having a cool van life

raven cipher
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no, not a van

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like a car

sharp jasper
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Maybe in San Jose

raven cipher
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like living in a car car

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Living in a car in a parking lot

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washing in a gym

brittle void
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you have to see people in yt who completely renovate a car into a home

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its actually kinda satisfying to watch

sharp jasper
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I mean people do it if they have to but

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you see all kinds of stuff on yt

raven cipher
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Im unsure what to feel with the idea that: you are capable to own a car, yet, you cannot afford to have a place to sleep that is an actual room

sharp jasper
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Don't let social media influencers be your yardstick for normal

raven cipher
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Okay,

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So, living in a car doesn't actually exist

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rather it's very rare

green pelican
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it does if you are homeless

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ask them how fun it is

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(its not)

stark prawn
graceful basin
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It's not really on purpose usually afaik

stark prawn
graceful basin
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Cars are cheaper than an apartments

green pelican
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i got my car for 3800

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ez

raven cipher
graceful basin
small coral
raven cipher
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huh

stark prawn
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Is there any place where cars are more expensive?

graceful basin
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Where do you live that housing is cheaper than a car?

green pelican
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mfs will pay 2k a month for 48 months to drive a dogshit bmw

raven cipher
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Cars are more expensive than an apartment in my place. In my place, one car can buy you an apartment, or let you rent for 150 months

stark prawn
raven cipher
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more or less

graceful basin
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Wild

stark prawn
brittle void
stark prawn
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they are buying old beat up cars

green pelican
raven cipher
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scratch that, 110 months

green pelican
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2012 mazda2

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used

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easy

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S tier car

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so fun

raven cipher
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okay, if used cars from 1990s, 12 months

stark prawn
raven cipher
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SEAsia

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I won't tell where

stark prawn
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a cheap used car is maybe 1 or 2 months of rent

raven cipher
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but, if one needs to compare the country similiar to mine

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It's india

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in terms of car pricing, that is

stark prawn
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maybe the rent is just really low where you live?

raven cipher
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it seems so

graceful basin
raven cipher
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that's my apartment, there are many hostels out there that gave cheaper price

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Quality varies I might add

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worst I heard

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if you sell a 1990s car sedan

green pelican
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90s jdm 😩

raven cipher
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and if you find a terrible hostel

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33 months maybe

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no ac,

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only a room and a bed

graceful basin
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Damn, a whole room

raven cipher
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Nothing more

stark prawn
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no toilet?

raven cipher
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Outside of the room

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I heard some has plumbing not from water source treatment

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rather from wells

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Don't drink those

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wells from rural villages can be drink if boiled first, btw

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but, a well from the city?

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nah...

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you will get dysentery

graceful basin
raven cipher
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damn a room of 12 peeps?

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wait, now Im curious

graceful basin
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Yeah, it kind of sucks

raven cipher
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what's the price of a single bed

stark prawn
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I don't think i could handle shared rooms

graceful basin
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it looks like this

graceful basin
stark prawn
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even the kind of house here where everyone has a room but there is a shared kitchen and living room just isn't for me

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Even though that is several hundred euros a month cheaper

raven cipher
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that looks creepy, that looks more comfortable than the singaporean one

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Once, I wanted to see how apartments are, it's just like this.

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But, no bunkbeds

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Usually, hard laborers in singapore uses these kind of hostels

graceful basin
raven cipher
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350/m

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sgd

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30 bucks of sgd per month

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21 usd

raven cipher
raven cipher
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like, it's really clean

stark prawn
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what makes you think it's ai?

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If i would take a picture of my hostel i would surely clean it beforehand

graceful basin
raven cipher
graceful basin
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So it was probably taken when the room was first set up

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(tho in general hostels do like to keep things clean)

brittle void
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props to that AI to even including a very good watermark

raven cipher
stark prawn
raven cipher
brittle void
raven cipher
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it's not dirty, dirty

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but, it has flaws

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the walls look a bit darker,

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there is no bed

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the room is small

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the lighting is there, but it looks real, you know

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you expect a room, what do you expect the first one or the second one

graceful basin
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The first is definitely embellished by fancy lighting

raven cipher
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if given two photos of two different rooms

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you would prefer the flawed one

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because it looks more real

graceful basin
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Most people will go for the better looking one

raven cipher
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They definitely read books because of their cover

young shoal
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that's what it's for

brittle void
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bro doesn't know how sales work

raven cipher
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bro knows how sales work, bro knows also how room works

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Of course peeps will bite the beautiful room compared to the flawed looking one

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but, if you were given a beautiful room and a cheap price for it, won't you grow suspicious

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?

crystal spruce
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#python-discussion message
@late orchid just wanted to add some justification for that
sets form an abelian monoid under union, so you can construct the grothendieck group, which is basically the group you get by "adding inverses"
given any set S and letting [x] denote the image of x in the group, you have [{}] = [S] + [S] - [S u S] = [S], so the image of any element is just the identity and so the grothendieck group is trivial

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which is about as bad as it gets

solemn tulip
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grothendieck
it's hard to resist making jokes

late orchid
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I meant specifically in Python (i.e. -{5})

you lost me at monoid though, I'm a bit sick IRL this week and that looks very math heavy

crystal spruce
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i guess a less math jargon way of expressing that would just be that if you assume inverses exist (i.e. for any set S there's a set S^-1 such that S u S^-1 = {}) then S u S = S would imply S = S u S u S^-1 = S u S^-1 = {} so every set is just the empty set in that structure

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interestingly i think lists are fine if you try and extend them

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as in you can embed them in some group

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multisets would just be uh

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isomorphic to the free abelian group over all the elements in the sets

solemn tulip
crystal spruce
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i am curious if my list group construction is actually universal tho

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ignore me i'm yapping

late orchid
crystal spruce
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that's cursed wtf

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wait

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!e

from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 0.5}))
royal lakeBOT
crystal spruce
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wtf

late orchid
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yeah I was expecting for it to error saying it only supports integers at first tbh

crystal spruce
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!e

from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 'y'}))
royal lakeBOT
crystal spruce
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!e

from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}) + Counter({'x': 'World!'}))
royal lakeBOT
# crystal spruce !e ```py from collections import Counter print(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}) + Count...

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     print(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}) + Counter({'x': 'World!'}))
004 |           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
005 |   File "/snekbin/python/3.13/lib/python3.13/collections/__init__.py", line 839, in __add__
006 |     if newcount > 0:
007 |        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
008 | TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'int'
crystal spruce
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damn

late orchid
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that's a whole new level of cursedness

crystal spruce
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i wonder

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!e

from collections import Counter
class PositiveStr(str):
    def __gt__(self, other):
        if other == 0:
            return True
        return super().__ge__(other)
print(Counter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) + Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')}))
royal lakeBOT
# crystal spruce !e ```py from collections import Counter class PositiveStr(str): def __gt__(...

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 7, in <module>
003 |     print(Counter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) + Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')}))
004 |           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
005 |   File "/snekbin/python/3.13/lib/python3.13/collections/__init__.py", line 839, in __add__
006 |     if newcount > 0:
007 |        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
008 | TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'int'
solemn tulip
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In [11]: Counter({'x': float('inf')}) - Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[11]: Counter()
crystal spruce
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tf

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how is it still a str

late orchid
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!e ```py
from collections import Counter
class PositiveStr(str):
def gt(self, other):
if other == 0:
return True
return super().ge(other)
def add(self, other):
return PositiveStr(super().add(other))

print(Counter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) + Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')}))

royal lakeBOT
solemn tulip
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I guess this kinda checks out, but wtf

In [30]: Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[30]: Counter({'x': nan})

In [31]: +Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[31]: Counter()
late orchid
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funnily enough ```py

Counter({'x': 0})
Counter({'x': 0})
+Counter({'x': 0})
Counter()

solemn tulip
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I wonder if there is a check like

if count > 0:
  keep
late orchid
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probably, it also removes negative numbers (which is probably the main reason why __pos__ exists)

solemn tulip
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right

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just trying to backsolve for the behavior

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inf - inf = nan
nan > 0  # False
solemn tulip
royal lakeBOT
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Lib/collections/__init__.py line 845

if newcount > 0:```
crystal spruce
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that's not pos but there are checks like that littered everywhere it seems

solemn tulip
crystal spruce
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Counter's honestly kinda cursed with how it deals with negative counts

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very implicit

solemn tulip
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some operations allow it

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others not

crystal spruce
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i would rather it just always keep until you explicitly do something to clear

solemn tulip
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yeah

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!e wonderful

from collections import Counter

c = Counter({'x': 'World'})
c.update(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}))
print(c)
royal lakeBOT
solemn tulip
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very ducky

harsh tundra
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Huh

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!d collections.Counter I want to see impl

royal lakeBOT
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class collections.Counter([iterable-or-mapping])```
A [`Counter`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.Counter) is a [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict) subclass for counting [hashable](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-hashable) objects. It is a collection where elements are stored as dictionary keys and their counts are stored as dictionary values. Counts are allowed to be any integer value including zero or negative counts. The [`Counter`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.Counter) class is similar to bags or multisets in other languages.

Elements are counted from an *iterable* or initialized from another *mapping* (or counter)...
harsh tundra
royal lakeBOT
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Lib/collections/__init__.py line 696

self_get = self.get```
solemn tulip
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back in the day that was an optimization that actually made a difference

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avoiding the name lookup

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I don't think it matters much anymore

harsh tundra
royal lakeBOT
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Lib/collections/__init__.py lines 757 to 764

# Multiset-style mathematical operations discussed in:
#       Knuth TAOCP Volume II section 4.6.3 exercise 19
#       and at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset
#
# Outputs guaranteed to only include positive counts.
#
# To strip negative and zero counts, add-in an empty counter:
#       c += Counter()```
glossy niche
solemn tulip
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I have a hard time finding records about this thing :/

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Found this section in https://lwn.net/Articles/893686

Method calls are a special-case of attribute lookup where the attribute's value is immediately used to call a function. There is some old advice that if you are repeatedly doing a method call, say in a loop, that retrieving the method once before the loop and caching it to use inside the loop is a way to get better performance. For Python 3.8, there is a noticeable improvement of about 66% when doing so, but the newer Pythons actually see a performance degradation.

The reason is that method calls is one of the areas where optimizations have been focused and, in general, the new Pythons "want to see more of your code at once to optimize more of it, especially in this particular case". But caching the method outside of the loop will mean that those optimizations no longer apply. That is most true for built-in types; for methods on Python classes, there is still an improvement for caching the method lookup, but it is much smaller for all three of the interpreters measured.

glossy niche
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I see, thanks

spare oriole
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@storm dove what do you mean by AI agency?

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what is it going to do?

dapper shell
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@storm dove planning for 4 years from now makes no sense.

brazen mortar
next vessel
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So for the past half a year I've been thinking my right ear was going slightly deaf, because my music always felt shifted to the left. Turns out for whatever reason, my phone had some accessibility balancing setting set at -0.07 this whole time

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I feel so vindicated rn

glossy niche
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yt needs to have per Video Audio balancing that resets aftera while

quasi blaze
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Some Canadians would usually fly down to the south or the Caribbean islands to get away from the cold in the winter. I wonder if people who live in hot states like California or Florida fly up to the north to get away from the humidity and heat in the summer

tardy rain
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Not really

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As a Mediterranean boy, cant say i've heard of anyone escape the summer heat that way, the go-to is island vacations instead

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Basically the same exact weather but with beach access

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And hotel breakfast buffets

grave cove
scarlet peak
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how does one make w redirect target in powershell?

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for example, if i append > yap to the end of a command line

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how can i get yap to do cool custom shit?

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im assuming i need to add some inheritance of an ABC or something

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@viral parrot do you think you can help? i remember you being good at pwsh

scarlet peak
brittle void
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or are you asking about something like piping commands in bash?

brittle void
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what is yap?

shadow rivet
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CA isn't that hot (definitely not that humid). If you live in the desert in CA, you probably can't afford to migrate.

scarlet peak
brittle void
scarlet peak
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how do i make a custom one that doesnt just dump to a file

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like how do i make it do other shit

brittle void
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are you talking about piping commands?

scarlet peak
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i literally just said redirection

brittle void
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idk man
im confused

scarlet peak
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cat hello.txt > custom-shit-right-here

brittle void
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can you show me with an example?
or just tell me your actual problem

brittle void
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thats not the real problem
tell what you are actually trying to do

scarlet peak
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i give up

shadow rivet
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🍵

vale raven
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The Texan politican that up and left in the middle of a disaster because they wanted better weather

tardy rain
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What kind of disaster

wary barn
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2021 cold snap I think he was referring too

tardy rain
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Texans foiled by bit of snow and ice?

wary barn
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That was back in 2021

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And that year was when Ted Cruz the current politician I believe fly out of Texas and didn't stay in Texas for the cold snap

vale raven
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Texas Senator Ted Cruz has attempted to defend taking a family trip to Mexico amid a winter storm that left millions in his state without power and water.

grave cove
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oh i remember this

wary barn
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Man I gotta pick up a hobby or something instead of following politics

grave cove
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my house was covered in 2 inches of water because of a burst pipe and emergency services were backed up to hell

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fun times

wary barn
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Forgot which state was colder than Alaska

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Like it was in the lower 20s than we

shadow rivet
grave cove
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dont remember

scarlet peak
grave cove
scarlet peak
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i'll leave

vocal oyster
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I don't get it either

harsh tundra
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I tried to re-read it... And unless it's joke about imperial units, then... Isn't hell considered to be "down" and not "up" to he "really high up"?

gritty zinc
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australian hell be like

harsh tundra
shadow rivet
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"my house was covered..."

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so the water was like 20 feet deep if a 2-story

scarlet peak
scarlet peak
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do you just burn for all of eternity

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except like

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upside down?

vale raven
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yes

harsh tundra
scarlet peak
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maybe 3 would've been better

sharp jasper
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it's just not much of a joke

harsh tundra
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I mean, 1) it's just 2 inches, not some weird number that you could argue is harder, 2) metric system people learn how much inch is, 2 inches are easy, 3) even if they don't, it's known it's the small unit - jokes about the imperial units work better with higher ones as they are not so easy to convert

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If you did like "how much is that in bananas" or other meme unit of measurement, it would be a clear joke
Trying to "joke" how 2 inches is big is not it

sharp jasper
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you can make a joke out of it but you just have to hammer it in more

vocal oyster
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2 inches yeah but why does it take a paragraph to solve a little joke

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it's a damn dick joke where it's funny that it's colloquially measured in inches, and joking like haha that's big, that's it

harsh tundra
vocal oyster
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"we all" nobody said that

timid latch
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I literally have no how much 2 inches is

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Is that actually like a meter or something?

sharp jasper
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I mean
if you were raised with us customary units, inches don't register as funny

vale raven
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.wa s 2 inch to mm

timid latch
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That's not very high

median domeBOT
tardy rain
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No but how tall is it

vale raven
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17.384

vale raven
# median dome

hmmm
What's your unit of measure for inches
I mean, like, little things

vocal oyster
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little over the top

sharp jasper
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there's a point at which overanalyzing the joke becomes the new joke

sharp jasper
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but at what point exactly do you think the joke died

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I'm listening to my in laws tell stories about old injuries so I have nothing better to do

vale raven
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OH RIGHT

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I knew I forgot one

carmine apex
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do yall ever use decimetres for things

willow narwhal
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In school, very briefly, then never again.

sharp jasper
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we should convert to lightnanoseconds

carmine apex
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no

sharp jasper
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or nanolightseconds, whichever

carmine apex
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light-nanoseconds

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again, no

sharp jasper
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yes

brazen ingot
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hi thuri

sharp jasper
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the nice thing is that they're roughly the same as feet

willow narwhal
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.wa 1 ly / 1000000000

carmine apex
#

yes
but not exactly
which is the problem
just use feet

median domeBOT
carmine apex
#

L attempt

timid latch
#

.wa s 5 feet into meters

median domeBOT
carmine apex
#

.wa light-nanosecond

median domeBOT
sharp jasper
#

.wa s (1 foot)/c

median domeBOT
sharp jasper
#

pfftpflns

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I think nanolightsecond sounds better than lightnanosecond

small coral
#

i don't, unfortunately

timid latch
#

meterdesi

brazen ingot
#

deci

small coral
#

t -> n sounds better than t -> s

sharp jasper
#

hmm

brazen ingot
#

unequivocally fancy

honest star
brazen ingot
#

.uwu nanoseconds is better than seconds ahem

median domeBOT
#

nyanoseconds is bettew than s-seconds a-ahem

sharp jasper
small coral
#

filipino

sharp jasper
#

maybe it's a sound inventory thing

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mine's English

small coral
#

okay nevermind "tn" seems much harder actually.

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but "light nanoseconds" still sounds okay-er

vale raven
#

Chat

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What flag is this?

carmine apex
#

ukraine, probably

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btw, shen

vale raven
#

Guess what Brotherman said?

carmine apex
vale raven
#

They remove core system components and breaks the OS

carmine apex
#

that's from a pygenner's diy "windows optimizer"

vale raven
#

I said what I said

vale raven
thick osprey
#

Poor Asuka

brazen ingot
scarlet peak
scarlet peak
solemn tulip
thick ore
#

they mixed terraria, noita, and factorio 😢 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osXrxEpEOBw

Here's your look at the Sandustry announcement trailer for this upcoming 2D physics/simulation game. In Sandustry, mine, refine, and automate the world in this factory/automation game where every pixel is a physical object able to be harvested and manipulated as players delve deep to discover an ancient civilization’s powerful secrets and lear...

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thick osprey
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Fun game from what I've experienced.

vale raven
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Oh it's out already?

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It's so small it finished downloading before I could take a picture of the progress

glossy niche
#

that's politically incorrect, most prefer "schnitzelgender"

glossy niche
glossy niche
brittle void
thick osprey
#

2016? We've been saying that since 1998. darkoLUL

fringe rain
#

like 15% of my uni has a linux desktop now

brittle void
#

it'll be the year of linux only when games can be played in linux on day 1 without any patches

fringe rain
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im just saying a lot of groups of people might not matter to you, if all your friends are running linux

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which is vastly different from previous years

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making it year of linux desktop for you

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🤔

brittle void
#

it'll be a year of linux for me only when games can run just like that in linux

thick osprey
glossy niche
glossy niche
thick osprey
glossy niche
#

fair

raven cipher
#

man, I saw the rent prices for a house in US

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is 800usd per month for a single room makes sense

spare oriole
#

might be more

raven cipher
#

bruh

low chasm
#

if you're in a big city, rent is more expensive than some small town.

brazen ingot
scarlet peak
#

shes made similar voice notes

brazen ingot
#

fair enough then

scarlet peak
#

see here

raven cipher
#

sadly, if I move there, I can't rent shit

lament cairn
#

i feel like i make/do too many things
yet don't dive deep enough into them to specialize, i only know as much about what i use as i have to to continue a project

recently took on a project that I'm not sure how to classify. maybe iot hacking?? i tried interacting with an iot sdk directly instead of through the buggy poorly translated desktop app. had to use debuggers and decompilers to figure out how to do that. i don't really know the tools i used (ghidra, x64dbg for example), i just stumbled my way into getting stuff done

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before that, it was reversing weird android gambling apps disguised as games. and before that a few one offs involving elasticsearch and web/api scraping
again i dont have enough experience in the tools i use or have used to consider myself an expert on them. it just so happens that i can get stuff done
i wonder wtf im gonna focus on by the time I'm done with my comp sci course (I just started)

lament cairn
ruby fox
# lament cairn

you are still dropping pics? awesome lol, its probably been a year since i saw you

glossy niche
#

it's been like a year since I say you

brittle void
glossy niche
#

minor typo, I am ending it all

heady brook
upper flower
glossy niche
#

:3est shit ever

cerulean root
#

looks ai

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in a scary way

glossy niche
#

you look ai

cerulean root
#

what does that mean?

cerulean root
# glossy niche you look ai

Guilty as charged — I am AI 😄. But I'm here to help however I can, whether it's coding, writing, or answering random questions.

Want to test how human-like I can sound? Ask me anything weird, deep, or totally random.

lament cairn
timid latch
cerulean root
#

Ah, the classic banana-root-in-hyperbolic-space-on-a-Sunday-in-Berlin problem. Let’s break it down with the seriousness it deserves:

Square root of a banana: Unfortunately, bananas are not defined in ℝ (the set of real numbers), so taking their square root is illegal in most mathematical jurisdictions. You could argue for a complex peel, but that gets messy.

In hyperbolic space: Excellent twist. Distances grow exponentially, so any attempt to measure a banana would result in an infinite potassium singularity. But at least your curvature is negative.

8:39 AM on a Sunday in Berlin: Crucial. This is the universal time when the Banana Uncertainty Principle is at its peak — any measurement disturbs the ripeness.

Ignoring air resistance: That’s wise. In hyperbolic space, air resistance causes bananas to curve inward anyway. Doesn’t help.

Final Answer:
The square root of a banana in hyperbolic space at 8:39 AM in Berlin (air resistance neglected) is:
𝜋 𝑖 potassium units × cosh(banana peel)
πi potassium units×cosh(banana peel)

Let me know if you'd like the relativistic version, the quantum one, or the recipe for banana bread instead.

glossy niche
#

can u draw him in ghibli style?

cerulean root
#

huh?

willow narwhal
cerulean root
#

what is a self-bot?

willow narwhal
cerulean root
#

why are you asking?

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if you plan to ban me ill just leave myself

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dont want a 7-th ban

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or 8-th

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idr

willow narwhal
cerulean root
#

a self bot is using a bot to post messages?

willow narwhal
cerulean root
#

ah

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then i shall stay

willow narwhal
#

(the "self" part refers to using it to post to user accounts (against Discord ToS), as opposed to bot accounts like @royal lake)

cerulean root
#

ooh

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i think i get it

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tbh i still have no idea how to set up "self-bots"

harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

what does that mean?

harsh tundra
#

You just say you had 6 bans. But the account you're on has no public history of bans (or discord search is broken). Meaning you're probably using multiple accounts to avoid your ban

cerulean root
#

uhh

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not "avoid"

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i got banned like a year or two ago

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and i decided to quit dc

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and when i came back i made this new account

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and they IP banned me which means no matter how many accounts i make, i still wont be able to join the servers i was banned from

harsh tundra
#

So those were not bans here? why even mention bans from other servers?

cerulean root
#

cus

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idk

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im just used to getting banned from every server ive joined

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ive been in like 10 servers in total

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not including this one

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i got banned from 4 in one day for being underaged

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got banned from one cus i called someone a karen as a joke

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i got banned from another one for making a few jokes about drake

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i left 1 cus they muted me for a week and told me it was my second warning cus a few days prior they muted me without warning for a day

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and i left 2

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so i try to avoid servers

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i wont be surprised if i get banned from this one

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its like playing with lava atp lol

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i say "maybe itll be better now" and it never is

harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

i did

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i just didnt realize that some mods just take rules WAY to seriously

harsh tundra
#

The rules exist for a reason

harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

eh

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touche

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maybe i should just shut up

woeful phoenix
harsh tundra
#

Because mods are not mindreaders so they don't know "it was a joke", even if you know the person and joke with them like that in private

cerulean root
#

yeah ig

cerulean root
#

k i should just stop talking, knowing myself, ill probably say something thatll get me banned

harsh tundra
# cerulean root i got banned from 4 in one day for being underaged

Also, this is pretty bad of you. People age-gate the servers for a reason - e.g. if they allow sexual content. If a minor joins such sexual 18+ server, it means everyone in that server becomes complicit in exposing that minor to sexual content. They legally (as in most country laws, not discord ToS) HAVE TO ban you as soon as they learn you're a minor, no exceptions

harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

phew

harsh tundra
#

At least not from what I saw

green pelican
#

its ok everyone the not-mod cant find any wrongdoing with the random user

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phew

cerulean root
#

no its just that she knows better than both me AND you, considering xe joined 4 years prior to us

timid latch
#

*xe

cerulean root
#

mb

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So I'd rather trust someone who's been here for a long time and speaks fairly than take sarcasm from someone new who only makes snarky comments

green pelican
#

im the spiritual leader here at pydis

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and i have 9 infractions

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i know the rules

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believe me

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im often used as a model for new users here actually

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ask thuri

timid latch
#

-# hmmmmmm

green pelican
#

see viv agrees

thick osprey
#

(x) doubt

timid latch
#

I am just gonna go back to web hell

green pelican
weak peak
#

when was your last infraction?

green pelican
#

fuckin

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uhh

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idk

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im gonna get a cake for my 10th

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kinda a big moment

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so

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im super excited

cerulean root
#

birthday?

weak peak
#

infraction lol

green pelican
#

😎

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im a free thinker

thick osprey
#

Only 10?

green pelican
#

i could get the numbers up

timid latch
#

I only have 5 😦

cerulean root
green pelican
#

hey >:(

thick osprey
timid latch
#

-# (that was a joke infraction, my stepping down from mod had nothing to do with this, honestly I dont even remember what the context of that infraction was)

green pelican
#

hah

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2 years ago

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respect me

#

see that "Hank"???

timid latch
#

tho this is literally discrimination, I have dyslexia 😢

green pelican
#

LMAO

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but when i ask to get banned

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"noOOoOoo"

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im practically begging

thick osprey
#

It's been a while for me but I also had my DMs off for the longest time so I might be missing notifications

green pelican
#

reason: original reason

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type shi

cerulean root
#

respect comes from actions, not knowlage

green pelican
#

i know c

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😎

cerulean root
#

wow

green pelican
#

yeahhhh

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

cerulean root
#

i used to study c++ for a year

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pascal too for my first year

harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

a professional programmer knows mustiple languages so if you go up to them and flex that you know a really popular programming language, they'll tell you "cool, i know way more than you do" which doesnt make you special for knowing something a lot of people know

thick osprey
cerulean root
#

its like flexing a 100 dollar bill

weak peak
harsh tundra
cerulean root
#

yea

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its like learning actual languages

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for example i know like 5 languages

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2 really well

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the other 3 i know less

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but i mostly use the 2 ones im good at

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which are my national language and english

harsh tundra
#

And with most languages i know, I used pretty targetted knowledge, so it doesn't translates between them.
Like Scala (back when it wasn't as popular) with Spark. AngularJS (not even the typescript one) with some geo lib i don't remember the name of. Python with various stuff but never gui or data analysis... C i mostly know in relation to posix stuff.
And then there's langs I never dabbled deep enough to have a lib/field i could say I know - cpp, c#, java...

cerulean root
#

theres also chicken

harsh tundra
#

I did a whole presentation about various esolangs for my uni class

#

Fugue's hello world is quite nice-looking

scarlet peak
#

!user

royal lakeBOT
#

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

scarlet peak
#

i almost have one for my age

green pelican
vocal oyster
#

some things just get a bit too long winded here

scarlet peak
low chasm
#

carmine apex
shadow rivet
#

snek

green pelican
#

gentoo

shadow rivet
#

gandalf_gif

#

wait...gandalf?

#

I also thought a Nathan Filion gif was Jeff Goldblum

glossy niche
#

I can't believe fnaf uses ai

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I want to teleport anti ai twitter ppl to 2017 when every company marketed non ai things as ai

plush sun
#

Okay, second go:

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People think AI is good because of LLMs, but when you criticize it, suddenly AI is not just LLMs

thick ore
# glossy niche

i can't believe some people can't tell the difference between generative AI and non-generative AI

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"muh AI is using a lot of water!1"

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and it's just among us bots

plush sun
#

It doesn't help that "AI" as a term became popular with LLMs, which I think does use a lot of water

thick ore
#

water consumption is a side effect of water-cooling data centers

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afaik

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llms arent the only reason water is being consumed

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but im not denying that they do implicitly use water

plush sun
#

I'm not arguing "AI doesn't use water" or "only AI uses water", I'm arguing it uses a lot

glossy niche
thick ore
plush sun
thick ore
#

if people started saying "Netflix uses a lot of water", I wonder whatd happen

plush sun
#

Netflix has value, which you can't say with LLMs and their hallucinations

glossy niche
#

I want ppl who market everything as ai and ppl who hate all ai to have a big fight

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neither side has any idea what's going on

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they judt hate the fuck outta each other

plush sun
woeful phoenix
glossy niche
#

instead of into generating slop

glossy niche
plush sun
#

You need to verify anything it gives to you

woeful phoenix
#

Verification is often easier/faster than producing it in the first place, it's a common pattern.

glossy niche
#

all ML produces garbage output tho

plush sun
glossy niche
glossy niche
woeful phoenix
#

And I'm someone who usually turns to Google first before I even consider LLMs.

glossy niche
#

LLMs can do such things as, for example, explain the syntax of a complex language, so that you can Google it yourself

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I use it to explain complex bash scripts so that I can experiment with them later myself

plush sun
#

Those aren't bad points, but how do you make sure that there are unintended effects in what they generate

plush sun
woeful phoenix
#

It works well enough for introducing you to fields or topics that there's no easy existing entry point for, summarizing, and for automating busywork that you know how to do but can't be bothered.

Does hallucination temper the value they create? Yes, of course. But I think it's silly to argue that it means they produce zero value, because that's kind of obviously untrue.

glossy niche
#

u do know that Google uses LLMs under the hood right

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for embedding search.And what not

plush sun
glossy niche
#

LLMs are like Wikipedia, it's not a source, but it makes finding sources easy

plush sun
#

LLMs make up sources

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I am a Wikipedia editor

glossy niche
glossy niche
#

tho most my edits r abt food

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I'm jsut hungry like that

plush sun
glossy niche
#

you do have to check your sources

glossy niche
#

it is assumed that this source was fact checked by someone although

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there are plenty of bad sources on Wikipedia

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still I would argue that LLMs are good at finding things

plush sun
glossy niche
#

like, sifting through information

plush sun
glossy niche
#

yeh that's true

#

@gork confirm that

plush sun
plush sun
glossy niche
plush sun
#

I don't think so, since LLMs are also intended to synthesize information, not just retrieve it

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And partly in that synthesizing comes the hallucinations

glossy niche
#

yeah good point

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I think it's useful to separate the 2

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tho this separation has more to do with how it's used not how it works

glossy niche
plush sun
#

Nice

plush sun
# plush sun Nice

I currently am aspiring to write and affect content, not just fix typos and grammar and whatnot

#

I haven't wrote a page yet 😭

glossy niche
#

lol

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actually ill dm

glossy niche
#

I did find a couple of niches

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which are tech and the local cuisine

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both of which I have good enough authority to speak on, ofc u need sources, secondary and primary ones

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cuz Wikipedia has a no original research rule

plush sun
#

Especially when they need to meet notability guidelines

glossy niche
#

I just write shit and ppl approve it

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or translate it

plush sun
glossy niche
#

one of ym pages might bit be notable enough and probably needs a merge but

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I haven't met the 500 edit minimum to edit restricted content

glossy niche
#

damnnnn

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I had a perfect record until someone reverted an edit of mine because of duplicate info

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it wasn't duplicate imo yert but that guy had likr 100kedits so I'm not gonna argue wtih them

plush sun
#

My fear when editing is creating misinformation, which I just do not feel comfortable doing, however minor or short it is

plush sun
#

And to be fair, very-high edit counts might not mean that much if they don't have arguments, guidelines/policies, or sources that support them

glossy niche
#

ehh it was some etymology shit

plush sun
#

Ah, fair

glossy niche
#

pages take forever for review sometimes

#

tho 3 out of my 5 have been reviewed so that's actually impressive

#

ppl be making pages abt important serious topics and I'm just making pages for weird food

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sometimes I add info related to one country and insane nationalists start fighting over my edits

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like a random IP would appear and add random stupid shit

plush sun
#

I remember nationalism being a Contentious Topic, but I can't find it now

#

But there are definitely nationalist topics like India/Pakistan, Balkans/Eastern Europe, and Israel/Palestine that are Contentious Topics, and are under heavier scrutiny and sanctions

#

You need to be more careful editing those topics

glossy niche
glossy niche
#

I pissed off a guy so much that he wanted to delete my source for "propaganda" so he just deleted the reflist template lol

#

he did it twice and editors kept reverting it cuz I had solid sourcing

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and there is aslo the occasional nationalist who just deletes all info not related to his country

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so much so that some pages have a sign that says "this contains info from several counties please don't delete info from other countries"

woeful phoenix
plush sun
#

It's like that country mentioned meme, but more extreme

plush sun
glossy niche
plush sun
#

Oh, long edit wars are still disallowed 😄

glossy niche
bronze token
#

@tardy hedge

tardy hedge
#

can you share the whole screen?

#

Did you login/signup?

#

if not then do login/signup

#

I shoula asked this first, mb

winged flax
#

hello

bronze token
bronze token
#

wait is github ok

tardy hedge
#

oh, it should be fine though

tardy hedge
bronze token
#

do i need to confirm email

tardy hedge
#

do you see your github pfp at the right top corner

bronze token
#

yes

#

i also see verify to unlockmore features

tardy hedge
bronze token
#

im waiting for an email then i will

tardy hedge
#

Ok.

bronze token
tardy hedge
#

Nice, you are welcome.

quasi blaze
#

ChatGPT describing the differences between the New York City accent vs Toronto accent

#

Thoughts?

tardy rain
#

the main difference is there are many new york accents and that the toronto accent is fake and forced

#

"crodie"

quasi blaze
tardy rain
#

how so

quasi blaze
#

I solely made this video because of the slander that the city has gotten in the past few years, and just want people to see the real and not spread ignorance. The accent and dialect has existed in Black communities in Toronto for a LONG time, since the 1980s but social media pushed it and now people who have never really grown up in Caribbean/Af...

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tardy rain
#

where do i go to listen to an authentic torontan accent

sharp jasper
#

Toronto

tardy rain
#

now why would i do that

#

why is that video exclusively black people talking

sharp jasper
#

Idk you asked

tardy rain
#

should it really be called toronto accent if its brought on by black immigrants?

#

sounds like its taking away from their cultural background

quasi blaze
#

Did you even watch the video?

small coral
#

i mean american accent is the most common term used for the ones brought by white immigrants so i don't see why not

tardy rain
#

you know what i mean keezy

quasi blaze
#

You need to correctly use the appropriate terms

small coral
#

accents depend on the region i guess

tardy rain
#

ok, let me spell it out i guess, they're black, theyre most likely caribbean immigrants

quasi blaze
small coral
#

an accent

tardy rain
#

they dont look like native americans or the settlers that colonised the americas

tardy rain
#

theres no point, im just making an observation

#

"toronto" accent sounds like it erases their cultural background

quasi blaze
#

?

tardy rain
#

what are you not understanding

quasi blaze
#

We have a culture already

small coral
# small coral an accent

then over time this accent changes through some major influence in the region, which causes them to have a more solid "accent"

so tl;dr it's a toronto accent because you find it in toronto

tardy rain
#

its a caribbean influenced accent keezy

quasi blaze
tardy rain
#

so "Toronto accent" sounds weird

small coral
#

since britain's own accent has evolved away from it

quasi blaze
tardy rain
small coral
#

so accents are named based on the region they're found it

small coral
tardy rain
#

and i dont mean kids on tiktok that do it ironically

small coral
# small coral not that i would know

hell, my idea of a stereotypical american accent is similar to the southern one, but it's in america anyway and a lot of people seem to think the same, so it's kind of what would be the "american accent"

young shoal
#

what even is an american accent

green pelican
young shoal
#

that's the point isn't it

green pelican
#

yeah

small coral
#

(there's also no "standard" british accent ||(maybe RP but meh)|| but its characteristics seem to be somewhat subconsciously agreed upon)

tardy rain
#

The only foreign inspired accent i can think of is MLE

bronze token
#

@honest star

honest star
bronze token
honest star
#

nah, you're fine. It happens to us all especially when starting out

bronze token
#

ty for making me feel better

vale raven
#

!print-return

royal lakeBOT
#
Print and return

Here's a handy animation demonstrating how print and return differ in behavior.

See also: /tag return

bronze token
vale raven
bronze token
quasi blaze
sharp jasper
#

what does that even mean?
Is RP "foreign inspired" because of the Norman invasion?

brittle void
#

guys, does anyone use komorebi?

#

i have a problem because of it

tardy rain
spare oriole
#

or maybe the italian one

scarlet peak
#

yk what would be funny

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if the mods/admins made ot1 the highest channel in the category

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because it has antigravity

raven cipher
#

Im tired

cerulean root
#

same

scarlet peak
glossy niche
#

senior Programmers sure love to nit pick on you in languages you are far more experienced in than they are

glossy niche
#

mb

glossy niche
quasi blaze
solemn tulip
willow narwhal
#

General American English? Although it's more of a dialect continuum.

tardy rain
#

Something about words being important keezy, be specific

#

I propose we designate valley girl as the standard american accent

sharp jasper
#

Aaron earned an iron urn

solemn tulip
#

arn arnd an arn ahrn

raven cipher
#

Ive decided to excercise

quasi blaze
#

Alternatively, it’s called “General American English”

tardy rain
#

the umbrella accent of American English used by a majority of Americans, encompassing a continuum rather than a single unified accent

quasi blaze
#

Am I more clear now?

tardy rain
#

No

#

This isnt a regional accent or specific to a particular demographic

#

Barely counts as an accent tbh

quasi blaze
tardy rain
#

Toronto is regional/specific to a demographic

solemn tulip
#

General American English, known in linguistics simply as General American (abbreviated GA or GenAm), is the umbrella accent of American English used by a majority of Americans, encompassing a continuum rather than a single unified accent.

tardy rain
#

What point are you making

solemn tulip
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Standard Canadian English accents may be considered to fall under General American
oh fun

raven cipher
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sometimes, when I look at electrical engineers, I wondered

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man, you guys suffer

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I mean like to suffer

quasi blaze
tardy rain
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Foreign to what

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Its the way americans talk

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MLE was due to Caribbean influences in london

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Especially south london

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White londoners dont really talk like that

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Thats why its foreign inspired

scarlet peak
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i wonder how many roblox preds there are in this server

quasi blaze
# tardy rain Foreign to what

Your claim is “The only foreign inspired accent i can think of is MLE”

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

And I am telling you is:

Even the Standard American Accent is also “foreign inspired”. The “R”s at the end of words are pronounced the same as the Scottish would pronounce them. Therefore, it’s “foreign inspired”. The Scottish influenced the way Americans talk English due to them immigrating there.

tardy rain
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🤨

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Two accents sharing elements doesnt mean one inspired the other

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Are the "r"s in the american accent a consequence of scottish immigrants bringing over their accent?

tardy rain
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Are you sure?

quasi blaze
sharp jasper
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Rhoticity is a feature of (most) early modern English. it was lost in (parts of) the UK, not adopted de novo in America

quasi blaze
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The rhotic dialects of English include most of those in Scotland, Ireland, the United States, and Canada.
sharp jasper
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that article isn't supporting your argument

tardy rain
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The North American preservation of rhoticity was also supported by waves of rhotic-accented Scotch-Irish immigrants, most intensely during the 18th century, when this ethnic group eventually made up one-seventh of the colonial population, plus smaller waves during the following two centuries.

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I guess it does make it someone foreign inspired

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i still dont know if american counts as an accent tho

quasi blaze
sharp jasper
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Keezy's wider point there though is valid. Accents happen because of influence from migration, conquest, colonization and intermixing
there's literally no accent that isn't "foreign inspired"

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they all come from somewhere

tardy rain
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Same article

It is often perceived by Americans themselves as lacking any distinctly regional, ethnic, or socioeconomic characteristics,

willow narwhal
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Isn't that true for many accents, in their homeland?

tardy rain
raven cipher
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question

solemn tulip
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answer

raven cipher
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Nevermind, it feels like: why do you guys comparing accent

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but, when I think about it

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it's their own business

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so, nvm

sharp jasper
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Off the top of my head, most of Yorkshire was part of the Danelaw: Scandinavian influence

tardy rain
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We have to start somewhere otherwise talking about anything's origins is meaningless

small coral
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it could be argued that everyone is an immigrant

raven cipher
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OWIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

solemn tulip
tardy rain
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There is an established accent or custom or local tradition that then sees influence by foreigners and changes

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MLE didnt exist before england basically begged Caribbeans to come to london and help rebuild after the war

raven cipher
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it did happened

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I mean, the Romans's gods are Greek gods

tardy rain
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MLE is a direct consequence of jamaican accents

raven cipher
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you guys are only talking about US right

tardy rain
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No

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Mle is a london accent

raven cipher
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Oh, ok

stark prawn
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I had not heard of MLE, and looking it up I know most of these words from music but had just assumed they were slang

tardy rain
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It is silly sounding