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The Tehachapi Loop is a 3,779-foot-long (0.72 mi; 1.15 km) spiral, or helix, on the Union Pacific Railroad Mojave Subdivision through Tehachapi Pass, of the Tehachapi Mountains in Kern County, south-central California. The line connects Bakersfield and the San Joaquin Valley to Mojave in the Mojave Desert.
Rising at a steady two-percent grade, t...
That's cali though. Doesn't count. They were one billionare's bad choices away from figuring the entire solution out.
fucking hyperloops my ass
wiki also lists US spirals in alaska colorado utah and tennesee
spinny train
funny thing is, it says we have 9, 6 currently running. germany has 2, with one being heritage (read: doesn't count)
plus, the advantage of the US's 100-car mile-long trains (not a joke, btw
) is that trains are so huge they can spiral over themselves
🇨🇭
My concern is more on the tracks themselves. Tennesee is east coast enough that I can't imagine their rails aren't just as bad as those around me
The freight trains don't move slow because they can't move fast...
United States – BNSF Railway and Union Pacific Railroad (UP) regularly operate intermodal container trains exceeding 5,000 metres (16,500 ft) in length on main lines in the western United States. On the UP, these trains can stretch to over 6,100 metres (20,000 ft) with 5 locomotives and 280 well cars
emphasis added,
Switzerland: We go through mountains
Yeah, I've sat many times for those to pass.
Seen three derailed while I was waiting. That's not a lot, but unfortunately a high number.
it's kinda funny how one of the more train hostile places has excellent train service
Still remember the day I had to drive an extra thirty minutes out of my way to get around a train that had a section derail.
when norfolk southern bombed east palestine a few years back the news was constant "the electonic instabrakes coulda stopped this" and rail people were like "wut. no. having trains less than 5 light-years long and requiring maintenance on them coulda stopped it"
mountains: *exists*
the swiss: "and I took that personally"
more like: good foundation, let's build there
"this is inevitable" says only place where that happens
I've read this six times now. My soaked brain cannot figure out how the words are supposed to connect.
(norfolk palestine war)
uhhh am I reading this right? 5km long trains? 
yes
Seems about right
they mistook the town for a certain country and bombed it
that's actually so cool
Until you need to wait for it to pass in order to get to the other side of town. 
I do remember passing next to a freight train as a kid and thinking it was obscenely long

someone should build an underpass
Here ya go, these are small ones. Only 1-2 engines. these crossings divide cities/towns. Over and under passes are far and few in between
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right, so in 2023 a norfolk southern train carrying hazardous materials derailed in east palestine, ohio, causing a big ol problem.
a common thing blamed for the derailment was the lack of ECP brakes, which are electrically controlled, so when somebody presses the "brake" button, it fires a radio pulse to other ECP units instead of waiting on pneumatic flow or similar older things.
but the big reason the train derailed because
- it takes a lot of energy to bring a big train to a stop, and us trains are biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig for 💰💰💰 reasons
- the train wasn't maintained super well, because hiring maintenance staff costs money, which subtracts from 💰, which is better spent preventing the fed train inspectors from having the budget to do their job
- the train uh-oh detector did not send information to the train engineers, but corporate, who did not relay it
Norfolk Southern what's your Function? Hotboxing trains on the business line.
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i remember this
Oh right, that snaps into memory now. Yeah, that's still a mess down there. A friend of mine moved out shortly after.
that whole thing was such a cartoonishly evil plot fr
like it's literally the plot if a children's environmentalist movie where the villains have no motivation beyond "money"
average us freight line tbh
ive visited some of these they're kinda trash
like preocts said you pay for what you get
one of the big complaints back when the us had the rail worker strike in 2022 is that they're - especially for few hires - required to be on call a lot, including nights and weekends, so your phone can go off at like 3 in the morning and it'll be some corporate goon saying "you're on train duty. get to the rail yard in 30 minutes or yer fired"
my current place is pretty nice, $724 with 4 roomates
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i thought that thumbnail was a COD map
diabolical
that i am. I'm drunk. I've got my first solid meal for the day. I'm grumpy and ohio is an easy target >:3
real tbh
huh
https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com/post/3lrwnpsmyys22 cw: flashing lights
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Starship v2 is cursed.
these kinds of RUDs look nice
mostly because fire and explosion and fire and explosions are cool
spacex?
i think there's probably more significant tax waste somewhere else
since NASA gets only like .5% of the government budget i don't think spacex could be taking that much more
so in conclusion, cool firework
yeah
i saw something from NDT about how they get about 0.5 cents of each taxpayer dollar or some insanely low amount
Clearly they should go back to v1
fr i thought u were referring the v1 rockets used in ww2
yknow, made by the other n@zis who make rockets
yeah anyone serious about this should probably look into military spending
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Yall are cute with your cheap ass apartments
Im out here shelling out £2000 for a 1bed, 540sqft
at that price you better own the place and that's a mortgage
Mortgage would be cheaper
Or maybe not at 4.6% interest
🤷♀️
Rent went up 500£ in 3 years and then the gov has the balls to say inflation is actually 3%
you guys got beds in US
yeah, beds in cars
is car qualified as homes in the US
doesn't a bed make it a truck
if I may state a honest opinion about your living situation in USA
man, you guys have the wierdest living style
I mean, you guys normalized living in a car
a truck
that's
not really normalized
there are people who show having a cool van life
Maybe in San Jose
you have to see people in yt who completely renovate a car into a home
its actually kinda satisfying to watch
Im unsure what to feel with the idea that: you are capable to own a car, yet, you cannot afford to have a place to sleep that is an actual room
Don't let social media influencers be your yardstick for normal
You often cannot just have a place to rent, you need a car anyway because of how the us works
It's not really on purpose usually afaik
people don't do that by choice
Cars are cheaper than an apartments
it is in US?
Yes
oh wow, it's almost like permanent living spaces are somehow more expensive than a car
huh
Is there any place where cars are more expensive?
Where do you live that housing is cheaper than a car?
in the US if you finance it 🥴
mfs will pay 2k a month for 48 months to drive a dogshit bmw
Cars are more expensive than an apartment in my place. In my place, one car can buy you an apartment, or let you rent for 150 months
yeah if you buy a lambo the lambo is more expensive but i'm talking expensive cars here
more or less
Wild
people who are struggling to afford an appartment are not buying new expensive cars
really?
wow bro won in life
they are buying old beat up cars
no i just have a brain
scratch that, 110 months
okay, if used cars from 1990s, 12 months
where is this the case?
a cheap used car is maybe 1 or 2 months of rent
but, if one needs to compare the country similiar to mine
It's india
in terms of car pricing, that is
maybe the rent is just really low where you live?
it seems so
Sometimes it's also a matter of getting evicted e.g. due to losing an income stream, but not losing the car.
that's my apartment, there are many hostels out there that gave cheaper price
Quality varies I might add
worst I heard
if you sell a 1990s car sedan
90s jdm 😩
Damn, a whole room
Nothing more
no toilet?
Outside of the room
I heard some has plumbing not from water source treatment
rather from wells
Don't drink those
wells from rural villages can be drink if boiled first, btw
but, a well from the city?
nah...
you will get dysentery
Here the cheap hostels are typically shared rooms with 6-12 beds a room, with stay length limits to ensure homeless people can't use them.
Yeah, it kind of sucks
what's the price of a single bed
I don't think i could handle shared rooms
it looks like this
it's for people who travel, typically peeps just show up to sleep.
even the kind of house here where everyone has a room but there is a shared kitchen and living room just isn't for me
Even though that is several hundred euros a month cheaper
that looks creepy, that looks more comfortable than the singaporean one
Once, I wanted to see how apartments are, it's just like this.
But, no bunkbeds
Usually, hard laborers in singapore uses these kind of hostels
Depends heavily on the city, but 15 eur a night on the low end when I've been travelling.
me 2
truth be told, this looks like an AI image generated
like, it's really clean
what makes you think it's ai?
If i would take a picture of my hostel i would surely clean it beforehand
Yeah, this is an official photo
because, it looks rreally clean
So it was probably taken when the room was first set up
(tho in general hostels do like to keep things clean)
props to that AI to even including a very good watermark
I mean, possibly
Would you advertise your hostel using a picture of a dirty room?
this did
it's not dirty, dirty
but, it has flaws
the walls look a bit darker,
there is no bed
the room is small
the lighting is there, but it looks real, you know
you expect a room, what do you expect the first one or the second one
The first is definitely embellished by fancy lighting
if given two photos of two different rooms
you would prefer the flawed one
because it looks more real
Most people will go for the better looking one
They definitely read books because of their cover
that's what it's for
bro doesn't know how sales work
bro knows how sales work, bro knows also how room works
Of course peeps will bite the beautiful room compared to the flawed looking one
but, if you were given a beautiful room and a cheap price for it, won't you grow suspicious
?
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@late orchid just wanted to add some justification for that
sets form an abelian monoid under union, so you can construct the grothendieck group, which is basically the group you get by "adding inverses"
given any set S and letting [x] denote the image of x in the group, you have [{}] = [S] + [S] - [S u S] = [S], so the image of any element is just the identity and so the grothendieck group is trivial
which is about as bad as it gets
grothendieck
it's hard to resist making jokes
I meant specifically in Python (i.e. -{5})
you lost me at monoid though, I'm a bit sick IRL this week and that looks very math heavy
i guess a less math jargon way of expressing that would just be that if you assume inverses exist (i.e. for any set S there's a set S^-1 such that S u S^-1 = {}) then S u S = S would imply S = S u S u S^-1 = S u S^-1 = {} so every set is just the empty set in that structure
interestingly i think lists are fine if you try and extend them
as in you can embed them in some group
multisets would just be uh
isomorphic to the free abelian group over all the elements in the sets
Counter is close to the behavior you would want
i am curious if my list group construction is actually universal tho
ignore me i'm yapping
>>> inf = float('inf')
>>> inf - inf
nan
>>> Counter({'x': inf}) - Counter({'x': inf})
Counter()
``` honestly checks out
that's cursed wtf
wait
!e
from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 0.5}))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({'x': 0.5})
wtf
yeah I was expecting for it to error saying it only supports integers at first tbh
!e
from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 'y'}))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({'x': 'y'})
......ok what
!e
from collections import Counter
print(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}) + Counter({'x': 'World!'}))
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m2[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | print([31mCounter({'x': 'Hello, '}) [0m[1;31m+[0m[31m Counter({'x': 'World!'})[0m)
004 | [31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m[1;31m^[0m[31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m
005 | File [35m"/snekbin/python/3.13/lib/python3.13/collections/__init__.py"[0m, line [35m839[0m, in [35m__add__[0m
006 | if [1;31mnewcount > 0[0m:
007 | [1;31m^^^^^^^^^^^^[0m
008 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35m'>' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'int'[0m
damn
that's a whole new level of cursedness
i wonder
!e
from collections import Counter
class PositiveStr(str):
def __gt__(self, other):
if other == 0:
return True
return super().__ge__(other)
print(Counter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) + Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')}))
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m7[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | print([31mCounter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) [0m[1;31m+[0m[31m Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')})[0m)
004 | [31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m[1;31m^[0m[31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m
005 | File [35m"/snekbin/python/3.13/lib/python3.13/collections/__init__.py"[0m, line [35m839[0m, in [35m__add__[0m
006 | if [1;31mnewcount > 0[0m:
007 | [1;31m^^^^^^^^^^^^[0m
008 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35m'>' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'int'[0m
In [11]: Counter({'x': float('inf')}) - Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[11]: Counter()
!e ```py
from collections import Counter
class PositiveStr(str):
def gt(self, other):
if other == 0:
return True
return super().ge(other)
def add(self, other):
return PositiveStr(super().add(other))
print(Counter({'x': PositiveStr('Hello, ')}) + Counter({'x': PositiveStr('World!')}))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({'x': 'Hello, World!'})
I guess this kinda checks out, but wtf
In [30]: Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[30]: Counter({'x': nan})
In [31]: +Counter({'x': float('nan')})
Out[31]: Counter()
funnily enough ```py
Counter({'x': 0})
Counter({'x': 0})
+Counter({'x': 0})
Counter()
I wonder if there is a check like
if count > 0:
keep
probably, it also removes negative numbers (which is probably the main reason why __pos__ exists)
oh good, just what we need
Lib/collections/__init__.py line 845
if newcount > 0:```
that's not pos but there are checks like that littered everywhere it seems
yeah, I just realized it's the exact check that failed for str

Counter's honestly kinda cursed with how it deals with negative counts
very implicit
i would rather it just always keep until you explicitly do something to clear
yeah
!e wonderful
from collections import Counter
c = Counter({'x': 'World'})
c.update(Counter({'x': 'Hello, '}))
print(c)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({'x': 'Hello, World'})
very ducky
class collections.Counter([iterable-or-mapping])```
A [`Counter`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.Counter) is a [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict) subclass for counting [hashable](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-hashable) objects. It is a collection where elements are stored as dictionary keys and their counts are stored as dictionary values. Counts are allowed to be any integer value including zero or negative counts. The [`Counter`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.Counter) class is similar to bags or multisets in other languages.
Elements are counted from an *iterable* or initialized from another *mapping* (or counter)...
Why tf do they alias self.get? 👀 https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.13/Lib/collections/__init__.py#L696
Lib/collections/__init__.py line 696
self_get = self.get```
back in the day that was an optimization that actually made a difference
avoiding the name lookup
I don't think it matters much anymore
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.13/Lib/collections/__init__.py#L757-L764 oh, this is where fun stuff begins
Lib/collections/__init__.py lines 757 to 764
# Multiset-style mathematical operations discussed in:
# Knuth TAOCP Volume II section 4.6.3 exercise 19
# and at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiset
#
# Outputs guaranteed to only include positive counts.
#
# To strip negative and zero counts, add-in an empty counter:
# c += Counter()```
it doesn't anymore?
I have a hard time finding records about this thing :/
Found this section in https://lwn.net/Articles/893686
Method calls are a special-case of attribute lookup where the attribute's value is immediately used to call a function. There is some old advice that if you are repeatedly doing a method call, say in a loop, that retrieving the method once before the loop and caching it to use inside the loop is a way to get better performance. For Python 3.8, there is a noticeable improvement of about 66% when doing so, but the newer Pythons actually see a performance degradation.
The reason is that method calls is one of the areas where optimizations have been focused and, in general, the new Pythons "want to see more of your code at once to optimize more of it, especially in this particular case". But caching the method outside of the loop will mean that those optimizations no longer apply. That is most true for built-in types; for methods on Python classes, there is still an improvement for caching the method lookup, but it is much smaller for all three of the interpreters measured.
I see, thanks
@storm dove planning for 4 years from now makes no sense.
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Then don't think 300 step ahead and assume the wrong thing...
So for the past half a year I've been thinking my right ear was going slightly deaf, because my music always felt shifted to the left. Turns out for whatever reason, my phone had some accessibility balancing setting set at -0.07 this whole time
I feel so vindicated rn
same, I had an offset bec a video I listened to had bad audio
yt needs to have per Video Audio balancing that resets aftera while
Some Canadians would usually fly down to the south or the Caribbean islands to get away from the cold in the winter. I wonder if people who live in hot states like California or Florida fly up to the north to get away from the humidity and heat in the summer
Not really
As a Mediterranean boy, cant say i've heard of anyone escape the summer heat that way, the go-to is island vacations instead
Basically the same exact weather but with beach access
And hotel breakfast buffets
I’m from texas and I haven’t heard anyone doing that
how does one make w redirect target in powershell?
for example, if i append > yap to the end of a command line
how can i get yap to do cool custom shit?
im assuming i need to add some inheritance of an ABC or something
@viral parrot do you think you can help? i remember you being good at pwsh
what problem?
how do you make a redirect target in powershell
you can just do that, just like in bash
or are you asking about something like piping commands in bash?
what is yap?
Florida definitely. They're called "snowbirds."
CA isn't that hot (definitely not that humid). If you live in the desert in CA, you probably can't afford to migrate.
just a placeholder
is that what you are asking?
yes
how do i make a custom one that doesnt just dump to a file
like how do i make it do other shit
like what?
are you talking about piping commands?

i literally just said redirection
idk man
im confused
cat hello.txt > custom-shit-right-here
can you show me with an example?
or just tell me your actual problem
i just did 
thats not the real problem
tell what you are actually trying to do
i give up
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You forget about Ted Cruz
The Texan politican that up and left in the middle of a disaster because they wanted better weather
What kind of disaster
2021 cold snap I think he was referring too
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That was back in 2021
And that year was when Ted Cruz the current politician I believe fly out of Texas and didn't stay in Texas for the cold snap
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oh i remember this
Man I gotta pick up a hobby or something instead of following politics
my house was covered in 2 inches of water because of a burst pipe and emergency services were backed up to hell
fun times
Did you get a $10,000 power bill?
dont remember
wow that must be really high up
?
I don't get it either
I tried to re-read it... And unless it's joke about imperial units, then... Isn't hell considered to be "down" and not "up" to he "really high up"?
australian hell be like

about 2 inches being very big
how would that even work
do you just burn for all of eternity
except like
upside down?
yes
If it was any higher number of inches, this joke could work. But I thought any kid in metric system country learns that 2 inches is around 5 cm.
some people are unlucky enough to have that
maybe 3 would've been better
it's just not much of a joke
I mean, 1) it's just 2 inches, not some weird number that you could argue is harder, 2) metric system people learn how much inch is, 2 inches are easy, 3) even if they don't, it's known it's the small unit - jokes about the imperial units work better with higher ones as they are not so easy to convert
If you did like "how much is that in bananas" or other meme unit of measurement, it would be a clear joke
Trying to "joke" how 2 inches is big is not it
you can make a joke out of it but you just have to hammer it in more
is it ever this deep
2 inches yeah but why does it take a paragraph to solve a little joke
it's a damn dick joke where it's funny that it's colloquially measured in inches, and joking like haha that's big, that's it
Apparently too many metric system people here to connect "few inches" to "small/big dick" jokes 🤷 so we all thought it's "metric system people don't know imperial units" joke
"we all" nobody said that
I literally have no how much 2 inches is
Is that actually like a meter or something?
I mean
if you were raised with us customary units, inches don't register as funny
That's not very high
50.8 mm (millimeters)
No but how tall is it
17.384
hmmm
What's your unit of measure for inches
I mean, like, little things
(so was I, UK) it's fine to not get a joke it was stupid but it just wasn't worth putting a full in depth analysis into it I think
little over the top
there's a point at which overanalyzing the joke becomes the new joke
this wasn't it
but at what point exactly do you think the joke died
I'm listening to my in laws tell stories about old injuries so I have nothing better to do
Centimeters
do yall ever use decimetres for things
In school, very briefly, then never again.
we should convert to lightnanoseconds
no
or nanolightseconds, whichever
yes
hi thuri
the nice thing is that they're roughly the same as feet
.wa 1 ly / 1000000000
yes
but not exactly
which is the problem
just use feet
L attempt
.wa s 5 feet into meters
1.524 meters
.wa light-nanosecond
.wa s (1 foot)/c
1 ft/c (foot per speed of light)
i don't, unfortunately
meterdesi
deci
t -> n sounds better than t -> s
hmm
unequivocally fancy
I remember this and we are not doing this again. I refuse
.uwu nanoseconds is better than seconds ahem
nyanoseconds is bettew than s-seconds a-ahem
Interesting, I think the opposite. What's your native language?
filipino
okay nevermind "tn" seems much harder actually.
but "light nanoseconds" still sounds okay-er
Guess what Brotherman said?
I stay away from those things
They remove core system components and breaks the OS
that's from a pygenner's diy "windows optimizer"
I said what I said
Poor Asuka
is that u
yes
beersexual
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Oh it's out already?

It's so small it finished downloading before I could take a picture of the progress
that's politically incorrect, most prefer "schnitzelgender"
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i dont think so man
that phrase is been there since 2016
and yet still, linux is just below 5%
2016? We've been saying that since 1998. 
tbh for the technical people and friends it is becoming the year of the linux desktop
like 15% of my uni has a linux desktop now
it'll be the year of linux only when games can be played in linux on day 1 without any patches
im just saying a lot of groups of people might not matter to you, if all your friends are running linux
which is vastly different from previous years
making it year of linux desktop for you
🤔
it'll be a year of linux for me only when games can run just like that in linux
This assumes games can be played on any platform day 1 without any patches. Bold. I like it.
thats older than most ppl here tf me included
a broken clock is right twice a day
a man who cries "23rd of June 2029 is tomorrow" is correct once in his life time, and thats enough for me
so is linux.
fair
man, I saw the rent prices for a house in US
is 800usd per month for a single room makes sense
depends on the state
might be more
bruh
it varies location wise
if you're in a big city, rent is more expensive than some small town.
that is not u
fair enough then
see here
sadly, if I move there, I can't rent shit
i feel like i make/do too many things
yet don't dive deep enough into them to specialize, i only know as much about what i use as i have to to continue a project
recently took on a project that I'm not sure how to classify. maybe iot hacking?? i tried interacting with an iot sdk directly instead of through the buggy poorly translated desktop app. had to use debuggers and decompilers to figure out how to do that. i don't really know the tools i used (ghidra, x64dbg for example), i just stumbled my way into getting stuff done
before that, it was reversing weird android gambling apps disguised as games. and before that a few one offs involving elasticsearch and web/api scraping
again i dont have enough experience in the tools i use or have used to consider myself an expert on them. it just so happens that i can get stuff done
i wonder wtf im gonna focus on by the time I'm done with my comp sci course (I just started)
you are still dropping pics? awesome lol, its probably been a year since i saw you
*saw
minor typo, I am ending it all
😭
you look ai
what does that mean?
Guilty as charged — I am AI 😄. But I'm here to help however I can, whether it's coding, writing, or answering random questions.
Want to test how human-like I can sound? Ask me anything weird, deep, or totally random.
Oh hey
Yeah im still doing it
Whats the square root of a banana in hyperbolic space, assuming its 8:39 AM on a sunday in berlin and ignoring air resistance.
Ah, the classic banana-root-in-hyperbolic-space-on-a-Sunday-in-Berlin problem. Let’s break it down with the seriousness it deserves:
Square root of a banana: Unfortunately, bananas are not defined in ℝ (the set of real numbers), so taking their square root is illegal in most mathematical jurisdictions. You could argue for a complex peel, but that gets messy.
In hyperbolic space: Excellent twist. Distances grow exponentially, so any attempt to measure a banana would result in an infinite potassium singularity. But at least your curvature is negative.
8:39 AM on a Sunday in Berlin: Crucial. This is the universal time when the Banana Uncertainty Principle is at its peak — any measurement disturbs the ripeness.
Ignoring air resistance: That’s wise. In hyperbolic space, air resistance causes bananas to curve inward anyway. Doesn’t help.
Final Answer:
The square root of a banana in hyperbolic space at 8:39 AM in Berlin (air resistance neglected) is:
𝜋 𝑖 potassium units × cosh(banana peel)
πi potassium units×cosh(banana peel)
Let me know if you'd like the relativistic version, the quantum one, or the recipe for banana bread instead.
@cerulean root what is he talking about?
can u draw him in ghibli style?
huh?
So is this a self-bot then, or are you joking?
what is a self-bot?
Are you pasting AI answers into Discord, are you using a bot to post your messages, or are you joking about "being AI"?
why are you asking?
if you plan to ban me ill just leave myself
dont want a 7-th ban
or 8-th
idr
Yeah, self-bots are not allowed.
a self bot is using a bot to post messages?
Yes
the second one from here yes?
(the "self" part refers to using it to post to user accounts (against Discord ToS), as opposed to bot accounts like @royal lake)
Self-admitted ban evasion 💀 considering from:Python#4329 mentions:alexxz_da_man returns literally nothing
CC @willow narwhal
what does that mean?
You just say you had 6 bans. But the account you're on has no public history of bans (or discord search is broken). Meaning you're probably using multiple accounts to avoid your ban
uhh
not "avoid"
i got banned like a year or two ago
and i decided to quit dc
and when i came back i made this new account
and they IP banned me which means no matter how many accounts i make, i still wont be able to join the servers i was banned from
So those were not bans here? why even mention bans from other servers?
cus
idk
im just used to getting banned from every server ive joined
ive been in like 10 servers in total
not including this one
i got banned from 4 in one day for being underaged
got banned from one cus i called someone a karen as a joke
i got banned from another one for making a few jokes about drake
i left 1 cus they muted me for a week and told me it was my second warning cus a few days prior they muted me without warning for a day
and i left 2
so i try to avoid servers
i wont be surprised if i get banned from this one
its like playing with lava atp lol
i say "maybe itll be better now" and it never is
Maybe read the rules for each server you try to engage in?
The rules exist for a reason
E.g. "I insulted someone, but it was a joke!" doesn't fly, you can do it with friends, but not with random people in public spaces
I don't know about your other servers, but I think this one is pretty reasonable. Just act in good faith and be nice to others.
Because mods are not mindreaders so they don't know "it was a joke", even if you know the person and joke with them like that in private
yeah ig
funny thing is, one of the mods told me i could write an appeal, but they said that it was late for them so they would talk to me the next day, which they never did
k i should just stop talking, knowing myself, ill probably say something thatll get me banned
Also, this is pretty bad of you. People age-gate the servers for a reason - e.g. if they allow sexual content. If a minor joins such sexual 18+ server, it means everyone in that server becomes complicit in exposing that minor to sexual content. They legally (as in most country laws, not discord ToS) HAVE TO ban you as soon as they learn you're a minor, no exceptions
Except for trying to play AI (and we literally have rule against "posting answers from AI"), you didn't do anything wrong in here
phew
At least not from what I saw
no its just that she knows better than both me AND you, considering xe joined 4 years prior to us
*xe
mb
So I'd rather trust someone who's been here for a long time and speaks fairly than take sarcasm from someone new who only makes snarky comments
im the spiritual leader here at pydis
and i have 9 infractions
i know the rules
believe me
im often used as a model for new users here actually
ask thuri
-# hmmmmmm
see viv agrees
(x) doubt
I am just gonna go back to web hell
everyone loves me here wym
when was your last infraction?
fuckin
uhh
idk
im gonna get a cake for my 10th
kinda a big moment
so
im super excited
infraction lol
Only 10?
i could get the numbers up
I only have 5 😦
more like a three thinker cus you think like a three year old
hey >:(
You've been orange before, haven't you? I find 5 rather impressively low if that's the case.
yheeeee... sooo my last infraction as a mod was...
-# (that was a joke infraction, my stepping down from mod had nothing to do with this, honestly I dont even remember what the context of that infraction was)
tho this is literally discrimination, I have dyslexia 😢
It's been a while for me but I also had my DMs off for the longest time so I might be missing notifications
even if you have a higher role or more knowlage than me, doesnt mean ill respect you
respect comes from actions, not knowlage
what if i told you
i know c
😎
wow
And i taught a c class, I win
that just proves that him knowing c isnt special
a professional programmer knows mustiple languages so if you go up to them and flex that you know a really popular programming language, they'll tell you "cool, i know way more than you do" which doesnt make you special for knowing something a lot of people know
I need to get this react moved over to my work laptop. I'll need it tomorrow. Quite frequently, probably.
Been gone for more than two weeks. Can't wait to hear all the chaos that has been done.
its like flexing a 100 dollar bill
fair enough, it is my default whenever I see @grave cove talking
It's not true that professional needs to know multiple langs. The actual expertise (what libs you know, not langs) is way more important. I can surface-level learn any language but that doesn't mean I'll do anything meaningful with it
yea
its like learning actual languages
for example i know like 5 languages
2 really well
the other 3 i know less
but i mostly use the 2 ones im good at
which are my national language and english
oliver
And with most languages i know, I used pretty targetted knowledge, so it doesn't translates between them.
Like Scala (back when it wasn't as popular) with Spark. AngularJS (not even the typescript one) with some geo lib i don't remember the name of. Python with various stuff but never gui or data analysis... C i mostly know in relation to posix stuff.
And then there's langs I never dabbled deep enough to have a lib/field i could say I know - cpp, c#, java...
I did a whole presentation about various esolangs for my uni class
Fugue's hello world is quite nice-looking
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
im just messing with you man
some things just get a bit too long winded here
what was it like
bro is vcverify spamming
snek
gentoo
gandalf_gif
wait...gandalf?
I also thought a Nathan Filion gif was Jeff Goldblum
I can't believe fnaf uses ai
I want to teleport anti ai twitter ppl to 2017 when every company marketed non ai things as ai
Okay, second go:
People think AI is good because of LLMs, but when you criticize it, suddenly AI is not just LLMs
i can't believe some people can't tell the difference between generative AI and non-generative AI
"muh AI is using a lot of water!1"
and it's just among us bots
It doesn't help that "AI" as a term became popular with LLMs, which I think does use a lot of water
water consumption is a side effect of water-cooling data centers
afaik
llms arent the only reason water is being consumed
but im not denying that they do implicitly use water
I'm not arguing "AI doesn't use water" or "only AI uses water", I'm arguing it uses a lot
unfortunately there are ppl who r straight up anti automation
yea it does, but compare that to video streaming, big data pipelines and such
I remember reading that those don't use as much water, but I may be wrong
if people started saying "Netflix uses a lot of water", I wonder whatd happen
Netflix has value, which you can't say with LLMs and their hallucinations
I want ppl who market everything as ai and ppl who hate all ai to have a big fight
neither side has any idea what's going on
they judt hate the fuck outta each other
To be fair, any two opposing sides would
hallucinations don't make LLMs useless
one time I commented "tech bros saw an opportunity to automate labor and they decided making artists unemployed mattered more" and got jumped by tech bros in the replies arguing that this science was bound to be useful and that this is necessary research
some mfw think all openai profits go into research
instead of into generating slop
yeah but this is a fight I wanna see
They do, because instead of LLMs allowing you to not further verify stuff, the fact that it can make errors prevent them from allowing you that
You need to verify anything it gives to you
Verification is often easier/faster than producing it in the first place, it's a common pattern.
all ML produces garbage output tho
What's easier is just Googling it. Skip the LLMs

not always, many queries are too complex for Google
It reduces effort for complex queries compared to Google.
And I'm someone who usually turns to Google first before I even consider LLMs.
LLMs can do such things as, for example, explain the syntax of a complex language, so that you can Google it yourself
I use it to explain complex bash scripts so that I can experiment with them later myself
Those aren't bad points, but how do you make sure that there are unintended effects in what they generate
I have no hope for LLM research, but I have hope for other types of AI
It works well enough for introducing you to fields or topics that there's no easy existing entry point for, summarizing, and for automating busywork that you know how to do but can't be bothered.
Does hallucination temper the value they create? Yes, of course. But I think it's silly to argue that it means they produce zero value, because that's kind of obviously untrue.
because I Google the rest myself
u do know that Google uses LLMs under the hood right
for embedding search.And what not
Fair, "no value" is wrong, but is it "acceptable value" considering anything else with LLMs
LLMs are like Wikipedia, it's not a source, but it makes finding sources easy
yeah but only dumbasses fall for that
so am I lol
tho most my edits r abt food
I'm jsut hungry like that
lol the first one
Readers don't read the sources, we (including you) are the ones that check them
you do have to check your sources
mmm fair
it is assumed that this source was fact checked by someone although
there are plenty of bad sources on Wikipedia
still I would argue that LLMs are good at finding things
Not really, since people can just copy-paste them without verification
like, sifting through information
Under the guise that LLMs can't be wrong
I actually would love AI like that, but I don't think LLMs are it
yeh
I think they are it when it comes to things like dictionaries and documentation search
I don't think so, since LLMs are also intended to synthesize information, not just retrieve it
And partly in that synthesizing comes the hallucinations
yeah good point
I think it's useful to separate the 2
tho this separation has more to do with how it's used not how it works
speaking of editing Wikipedia, my page on a very niche dish just got approved
Nice
link?
I currently am aspiring to write and affect content, not just fix typos and grammar and whatnot
I haven't wrote a page yet 😭
it's actually pretty easy but u need to find a niche with no info on it
I did find a couple of niches
which are tech and the local cuisine
both of which I have good enough authority to speak on, ofc u need sources, secondary and primary ones
cuz Wikipedia has a no original research rule
I remember having some ideas for articles, then no sources show up when I research them, which sucks
Especially when they need to meet notability guidelines
I still actually haven't read those guidelines
I just write shit and ppl approve it
or translate it
I haven't in full either
one of ym pages might bit be notable enough and probably needs a merge but
I haven't met the 500 edit minimum to edit restricted content
I have 😄
damnnnn
I had a perfect record until someone reverted an edit of mine because of duplicate info
it wasn't duplicate imo
but that guy had likr 100kedits so I'm not gonna argue wtih them
My fear when editing is creating misinformation, which I just do not feel comfortable doing, however minor or short it is
same
Hmm, I wanna recommend that you talk with them in the Talk page, but I understand the daunting feeling
And to be fair, very-high edit counts might not mean that much if they don't have arguments, guidelines/policies, or sources that support them
ehh it was some etymology shit
Ah, fair
pages take forever for review sometimes
tho 3 out of my 5 have been reviewed so that's actually impressive
ppl be making pages abt important serious topics and I'm just making pages for weird food
sometimes I add info related to one country and insane nationalists start fighting over my edits
like a random IP would appear and add random stupid shit
I remember nationalism being a Contentious Topic, but I can't find it now
But there are definitely nationalist topics like India/Pakistan, Balkans/Eastern Europe, and Israel/Palestine that are Contentious Topics, and are under heavier scrutiny and sanctions
You need to be more careful editing those topics
what is this?
wikipedia?
yuh
I edit those often and piss off everyone
I pissed off a guy so much that he wanted to delete my source for "propaganda" so he just deleted the reflist template lol
he did it twice and editors kept reverting it cuz I had solid sourcing
and there is aslo the occasional nationalist who just deletes all info not related to his country
so much so that some pages have a sign that says "this contains info from several counties please don't delete info from other countries"
that's so funny
like it's not enough to paint their country in a positive light
It's like that country mentioned meme, but more extreme
Funnily, some pages only allow 1 revert
yeah, but I think per 24h?
Oh, long edit wars are still disallowed 😄
it's always worst when cultural appropriation is involved
can you share the whole screen?
Did you login/signup?
if not then do login/signup
I shoula asked this first, mb
hello
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
oh, it should be fine though
...
do i need to confirm email
do you see your github pfp at the right top corner
👆
im waiting for an email then i will
Ok.
it works now ty
Nice, you are welcome.
ChatGPT describing the differences between the New York City accent vs Toronto accent
Thoughts?
the main difference is there are many new york accents and that the toronto accent is fake and forced
"crodie"
and that the toronto accent is fake and forced
That’s how I know you have been watching too many TikTok videos
how so
Because content creators on TikTok from Toronto force the accent
I solely made this video because of the slander that the city has gotten in the past few years, and just want people to see the real and not spread ignorance. The accent and dialect has existed in Black communities in Toronto for a LONG time, since the 1980s but social media pushed it and now people who have never really grown up in Caribbean/Af...
where do i go to listen to an authentic torontan accent
Toronto
Idk you asked
should it really be called toronto accent if its brought on by black immigrants?
sounds like its taking away from their cultural background
Black immigrants? They are Canadians…
Did you even watch the video?
i mean american accent is the most common term used for the ones brought by white immigrants so i don't see why not
you know what i mean keezy
No I do not. Words matter
You need to correctly use the appropriate terms
accents depend on the region i guess
ok, let me spell it out i guess, they're black, theyre most likely caribbean immigrants
How are you going to tell me? You are not from there
if you have multiple people blending into one region, they create a unique speaking style
an accent
they dont look like native americans or the settlers that colonised the americas
What is your point?
theres no point, im just making an observation
"toronto" accent sounds like it erases their cultural background
What are you even saying
?
what are you not understanding
“Erases their cultural background”
We have a culture already
then over time this accent changes through some major influence in the region, which causes them to have a more solid "accent"
so tl;dr it's a toronto accent because you find it in toronto
its a caribbean influenced accent keezy
Yes it is. What’s the problem?
so "Toronto accent" sounds weird
some east coast americans even retain the old british accent but we don't call that british anymore
since britain's own accent has evolved away from it
With that logic, American standard accent sounds weird because that accent is also influenced by another region
do you find it in toronto outside of black immigrant communities?
so accents are named based on the region they're found it
not that i would know
and i dont mean kids on tiktok that do it ironically
Correct
hell, my idea of a stereotypical american accent is similar to the southern one, but it's in america anyway and a lot of people seem to think the same, so it's kind of what would be the "american accent"
what even is an american accent
depends on the state
that's the point isn't it
yeah
(there's also no "standard" british accent ||(maybe RP but meh)|| but its characteristics seem to be somewhat subconsciously agreed upon)
The only foreign inspired accent i can think of is MLE
So you want to return that f-string, not print it
oh im a moron
nah, you're fine. It happens to us all especially when starting out
ty for making me feel better
ty

oh uhm
The American accent is foreign inspired as well
what does that even mean?
Is RP "foreign inspired" because of the Norman invasion?
Which american accent
yk what would be funny
if the mods/admins made ot1 the highest channel in the category
because it has antigravity
Im tired
same
go to bed
senior Programmers sure love to nit pick on you in languages you are far more experienced in than they are
i cannot parse this sentence
mb
thank u compiler for this helpful error message, I have fixed the syntax error
The standard. it’s “foreign inspired” as you call it
what even is the "standard" american accent?
General American English? Although it's more of a dialect continuum.
Which one is the standard
Something about words being important keezy, be specific
I propose we designate valley girl as the standard american accent
Aaron earned an iron urn
arn arnd an arn ahrn
Yes
Be specific? I am being specific
Alternatively, it’s called “General American English”
How to Speak with an AMERICAN Accent | Learn standard American Pronunciation & Speech Patterns | Jeff Virkus
Want to master the American accent? 🇰🇭 In this video, I break down the pronunciation, rhythm, and speech patterns of American speakers so you can sound more authentic. Whether you're an actor, language enthusiast, or just curious a...
the umbrella accent of American English used by a majority of Americans, encompassing a continuum rather than a single unified accent
Am I more clear now?
No
This isnt a regional accent or specific to a particular demographic
Barely counts as an accent tbh
That’s the point
Toronto is regional/specific to a demographic
General American English, known in linguistics simply as General American (abbreviated GA or GenAm), is the umbrella accent of American English used by a majority of Americans, encompassing a continuum rather than a single unified accent.
What point are you making
Standard Canadian English accents may be considered to fall under General American
oh fun
sometimes, when I look at electrical engineers, I wondered
man, you guys suffer
I mean like to suffer
Refer back to my original counterpoint. The Standard American accent is also “foreign inspired”
Foreign to what
Its the way americans talk
MLE was due to Caribbean influences in london
Especially south london
White londoners dont really talk like that
Thats why its foreign inspired
i wonder how many roblox preds there are in this server
Your claim is “The only foreign inspired accent i can think of is MLE”
#ot1-perplexing-regexing message
And I am telling you is:
Even the Standard American Accent is also “foreign inspired”. The “R”s at the end of words are pronounced the same as the Scottish would pronounce them. Therefore, it’s “foreign inspired”. The Scottish influenced the way Americans talk English due to them immigrating there.
🤨
Two accents sharing elements doesnt mean one inspired the other
Are the "r"s in the american accent a consequence of scottish immigrants bringing over their accent?
Yes
Are you sure?
The distinction between rhoticity and non-rhoticity is one of the most prominent ways in which varieties of the English language are classified. In rhotic accents, the sound of the historical English rhotic consonant, /r/, is preserved in all phonetic environments. In non-rhotic accents, speakers no longer pronounce /r/ in postvocalic environmen...
Rhoticity is a feature of (most) early modern English. it was lost in (parts of) the UK, not adopted de novo in America
The rhotic dialects of English include most of those in Scotland, Ireland, the United States, and Canada.
that article isn't supporting your argument
The North American preservation of rhoticity was also supported by waves of rhotic-accented Scotch-Irish immigrants, most intensely during the 18th century, when this ethnic group eventually made up one-seventh of the colonial population, plus smaller waves during the following two centuries.
I guess it does make it someone foreign inspired
i still dont know if american counts as an accent tho
Thank you
Keezy's wider point there though is valid. Accents happen because of influence from migration, conquest, colonization and intermixing
there's literally no accent that isn't "foreign inspired"
they all come from somewhere
Same article
It is often perceived by Americans themselves as lacking any distinctly regional, ethnic, or socioeconomic characteristics,
Isn't that true for many accents, in their homeland?
A yorkshire accent isnt brought on by immigrants to yorkshire
question
answer
Nevermind, it feels like: why do you guys comparing accent
but, when I think about it
it's their own business
so, nvm
do you think that English just happened spontaneously everywhere in the British isles circa 1750
Off the top of my head, most of Yorkshire was part of the Danelaw: Scandinavian influence
We have to start somewhere otherwise talking about anything's origins is meaningless
it could be argued that everyone is an immigrant
we started from OWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
OWIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
at which point the label ceases to be useful at all 🥴
There is an established accent or custom or local tradition that then sees influence by foreigners and changes
MLE didnt exist before england basically begged Caribbeans to come to london and help rebuild after the war
MLE is a direct consequence of jamaican accents
you guys are only talking about US right
Oh, ok
I had not heard of MLE, and looking it up I know most of these words from music but had just assumed they were slang
It is silly sounding


