ot1-perplexing-regexing

[low chasm]

fair enough

[strange blade]

We'll end it here, you seem like it's very urgent.

[scarlet peak]

how the fuck

[spare oriole]

.uwu

[median dome]

how the fuck

[scarlet peak]

.uwu you're a disgrace

[median dome]

you'we a-a disgwace

[fringe rain]

#python-discussion message

[scarlet peak]

woah thats so cool

[fringe rain]

ty

[shadow tendon]

Pygame or Godot?

[fringe rain]

pygame

[torn pier]

someone know any alternative to flowrun? i have no time and big code to make…

[unkempt python]

hehe that was me

(i just deleted the command mesage)

[quasi blaze]

Who's that user who has a dog as their pfp and introduced me to Microsoft Graph API?

[carmine apex]

dog that shills microsoft products sounds like @vale raven

[vale raven]

Ping

[carmine apex]

pong

[vale raven]

It’s not “shilling” if they’re the best

[vale raven]

What’s up Keezy?

[carmine apex]

so microsoft is shilling, then. thx for confirm

[quasi blaze]

Am I able to make a POST request to create a SharePoint site with Microsoft Graph API?

I can’t find the POST section in their documentation

[vale raven]

Uh….
Probably
Do you want a group with it or do you just want the communication site?

[quasi blaze]

Group

[vale raven]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/api/group-post-groups

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/api/site-get
See example 3 for getting the site for a group

[quasi blaze]

I just see all GET

Not POST

[vale raven]

See the link above that

First link is group creation
Second link is querying the group to get the generated SharePoint site URL

[quasi blaze]

I see. Awesome. Thanks a lot man

[quasi blaze]

Do I need to be admin to further research SharePoint?

[vale raven]

Research?

No, https://learn.microsoft.com/ is public

To actually use?

There's a permissions section on each docs page telling you what permissions you need

Group creation is enabled for all users by default, so if your admins haven't disabled it, you shouldn't need to be admin for this

[low wraith]

Wow

[quasi blaze]

I mean research on the actual app

I want to use it

And create sites from the front end

Btw you can ping me by replying. It’s not an issue

[vale raven]

What app?

[vale raven]

Oh heh there's even a code sample for this in the SDK repo
https://github.com/microsoftgraph/msgraph-sdk-python/blob/main/docs/groups_samples.md#4-list-a-group-team-sharepoint-sites-get-groupsidsites

[quasi blaze]

SharePoint

[vale raven]

You're losing me, I don't understand what you want

But just give it a try
What admin perms you need depend on how your org has things configured, so I can't tell you for sure what you need

[scarlet peak]

what about after 2003? so for all time?

[scarlet peak]

ah i see

wow, 42 million messages

[harsh tundra]

Only in public channels

[scarlet peak]

theres more??

[vale raven]

lots

[scarlet peak]

you talk too much

42 million?

how

[vale raven]

Excuse?

[tardy rain]

Dog yapper

[vale raven]

TF

[tardy rain]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[vale raven]

44, almost 45, with staff channels

And that's not including all the mod channels with logs and alerts for deleted messages

[scarlet peak]

[green pelican]

I love it when everyone's deleted messages get stored

[frozen crane]

@quasi blaze did you figure out the docker thing you were asking about?

[thin cloak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EBgwF4XTNFw?feature=share

[unkempt python]

arch linux config started

[fringe rain]

what the...

id definitely get bored at like 3 million

[vale raven]

These messages are from tons of different people

[fringe rain]

ohh

ah you have ~100k

thats sane

[vale raven]

!eval

message_count = 45_000_000
user_count = 400_000
average_messages_per_user = message_count / user_count 
print(f"{average_messages_per_user=}")

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

average_messages_per_user=112.5

[vale raven]

And that's a conservative estimate on users
Who knows how many more users than that have joined and left over time

[hearty vigil]

@round pendant yo!!! it's like fifth time i ping you for no reason, but check this out 😎

[round pendant]

huh
pretty cool
wouldnt use it for a language though, but yeah, if you have some simple rules to parse with this is a nice abstraction on regex ig

[hearty vigil]

thanks ❤️

[hearty vigil]

also my idea with comments as tokens turned out to work

[wicked haven]

kinda random but what about Indent and Dedent tokens? How could you do that?

[hearty vigil]

hmm... one second

[wicked haven]

Like

if True:
    pass
```to```If Bool Colon Indent Pass Dedent EOF```

[hearty vigil]

yeah with the way i did it that wouldnt work

and not like i want to make a language with indentations anyway...

[wicked haven]

Sad.
Indent and dedent tokens let you make things like

enum Result T E
    Ok T
    Err E

:3

[hearty vigil]

or u just use { } 😎

[wicked haven]

True but
Indentations are "fun"

[acoustic moss]

imagine using languages with indentation

[wicked haven]

fn add(int a, int b) -> int
    a + b

I dunno why but I like that

[hearty vigil]

as fun as 35000 lines of code in parser.c in cpython's source code go 😅
though, that's a parser. not a lexer...

[wicked haven]

You just have to keep track of the number of whitespace characters at the beginning of a line and emit Indent tokens when it increases and Dedent tokens when it decreases
you could solve mixing tabs with spaces by making it assume that a tab is the width of the first space indent you see

[hearty vigil]

couldn't be me 🔥

[small coral]

it's autogenerated, it's fine

[hearty vigil]

what on earth

oh

// @generated by pegen from python.gram

💀

[small coral]

comments are there for a reason

lexer is also partly autogenerated, but that's only for non-whitespace tokens of length 2+

[hearty vigil]

i see

though generating those files also seems kinda complicated

[solemn tulip]

If Bool Colon BlockStart Pass BlockEnd EOF

[wicked haven]

different names for the same token /shrug

[wicked haven]

not necessarily blocks, though

some_fn(
  a,
  b
)

[solemn tulip]

depends on how you meant indent to work

[wicked haven]

although ideally you'd just ignore ident and dedent tokens within expressions

[solemn tulip]

I initially thought you intended this to have one indent per line

if blah
  foo
  bar

but I guess not

[rough sapphire]

haskell.

you guys literally always think about how cool a language it could be and it's literally haskell code

yet nobody wants to use it 😂

biggest haskell haters ong

[wicked haven]

Oh, I love Haskell.

[rough sapphire]

nice

[wicked haven]

I just refuse to use a language without namespaces.

[rough sapphire]

bruh

[wicked haven]

-# STOP PUTTING THE DARN TYPE CONSTRUCTORS IN THE GLOBAL NAMESPACE

[graceful basin]

import qualified Data.Map.Strict as S or what was it

[rough sapphire]

data Result a b
  = Ok a
  | Err b

[wicked haven]

I don't want Ok to be the type constructor
it should be Result.Ok or Result::Ok

[rough sapphire]

instance Show Result where
  show (Ok a) = show a
  show (Err _) = "Err"

or something

or you can just

data Result a b
  = Ok a
  | Err b
  deriving Show

or something

i dk

[round pendant]

im going to be pedantic and say that Ok is a data constructor
the type constructor is Result (it makes a type, so its a type constructor)

[rough sapphire]

I HAVEn't touched haskell in centuries bro

wtf is this language

[round pendant]

lean4 better

[wicked haven]

I don't use Haskell

I like it

but I don't use it

[round pendant]

ok so actually
funny problem with this
that id actually like modern languages to solve

[rough sapphire]

yes

i now see the funy problem

[round pendant]

what is it?

[rough sapphire]

it can't do that

[round pendant]

cant do what

[rough sapphire]

doesn't know the type of a and b

[round pendant]

no its fine it will generate

instance (Show a, Show b) => Show (Result a b)

(a constrained instance)

[rough sapphire]

so that's te problem

just tell me bro i've been trying to find out for the last 5 mins or so i am a bit frustrated

[round pendant]

a problem with curried type arguments is that the order starts to matter a lot

with Result a b, you get to * -> * after applying a (the Ok value)
so if you wanted to make a functor instance for this type, it'd be functorial over.. b (the error value.. which is stupid, you obviously want to fmap over Ok a)
so what you'd have to do is Result b a = Ok a | Err b

[rough sapphire]

ok

bruh just putting paranthesis around it fixed it

🦍

ok why does this work for me but it doesn't work on a discord code ocmpiler

i swear i'm losing more and more braincells

when did i get so udmb

[green pelican]

now that is the ideal coding syntax

put parens on everything 😈

[wicked haven]

everything becomes lisp eventually

[low chasm]

@slate cobalt I know you were looking for a distro to use 👀 I've had enough of NixOS at this point, it's started actively blocking my productivity, and so I've decided to switch out as well. I came across https://projectbluefin.io, which looks fantastic, and has more or less a no frills ready-to-go setup.

it's based off of Fedora Atomic, so it's an immutable system.

software is all installed isolated and separate from the base system (which itself is immutable), exclusively via flatpacks and with homebrew for CLI tools.

and all development is done through devcontainers (or your choice of tooling like distrobox)

[slate cobalt]

I was? I think you may have mixed me up with someone else

[low chasm]

oh you're right, it's not you

[green pelican]

wait only flatpak?

[low chasm]

mhm

[green pelican]

yikes

[low chasm]

for GUI apps

why?

[green pelican]

i just find the sandbox fucks shit up sometimes

[low chasm]

OH right it was @uneven pine

[green pelican]

i fought demons on flatpak steam

[low chasm]

I guess you could just like, use a normal appimage (are those also sandboxed?)

[green pelican]

and i just dont really like flatpak too much tbh

id much rather apt or portage

[low chasm]

the big idea behind this is avoiding apt and any similar package manager

e.g no changes to the base system, it's read-only

you can layer packages on top of it if you wanted to, but that's considered an antipattern

[uneven pine]

I see I see

[green pelican]

interesting

[low chasm]

it's kind of like a chromebook

[green pelican]

oh lord

[low chasm]

but supercharged for like, actualy usage.

[uneven pine]

if I go back to Linux it'll probably be back to Nobara tbh

I am not huge on the atomic thing

It is a great idea and absolutely has its place

just not for me

[low chasm]

fair enough

[uneven pine]

I now know what MOST of the issues were on bedroom PC

bad RAM

[low chasm]

I've been playing with it on a virtual machine for a bit now

it's been incredibly straightforward, and the stability is a nice bonus.

[uneven pine]

which it turns out, is actually way easier to diagnose on Windows because the bluescreen dumps are actually helpful CakeW

2 minutes into memtest86 and it was failed

[low chasm]

apparently drivers are practically painless as well

the computer I use shipped with some sort of funky audio card which clashed with my nvidia one

so for the past like, two years, I've had random blue screens

like, twice every day

no predicting them 😩

just figured out what the issue was like, this week, after actually sitting down and troubleshooting it

[uneven pine]

I am going to be pulling out the spare motherboard and CPU from boxes next week

[low chasm]

had to turn off some weird driver

[uneven pine]

5800x and a X570 board

just need to buy RAM, a new CPU cooler, couple of case fans, and a GPU

maybe a new PSU too honestly. Actually, for sure

that thing is pretty old and it's time to retire it

I should be getting my roomate's Arc A770 since they're planning on upgrading to the B770

[low chasm]

oh neat, is that a capable GPU?

[uneven pine]

right now it has a GTX 1070 laying in a box because all the linux errors were pointing to nvidia driver failures and I never put it back in

It's like 3060 Ti level. @low chasm

[low chasm]

I see

oh that's pretty decent, actually

[uneven pine]

it's going to be a streaming rig, running my VTuber software and all of my bots

[low chasm]

I see

[uneven pine]

so it needs some oomph

[low chasm]

have fun 👀

[glossy niche]

https://x.com/fawfulfan/status/1881732562042982817 bruh the us abolished men

Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) on X

Under Trump's executive order, every single person in America is now legally classified as female.

All embryos begin by developing female sex organs, with male sex organs only replacing them at around 6 weeks of gestation.

X · Jan 21, 2025, 3:56 PM

let's fucking gooooooooooo

[tardy rain]

Based

[young shoal]

weird

[grave cove]

hype

[uneven pine]

Let's go

Thank you daddy donaldine

[wraith hound]

AFAEO

[uneven pine]

Assigned Female At Executive Order?

[grave cove]

💀

[wraith hound]

yah

[tardy rain]

Next goal ban current existing men

[carmine apex]

but the men don't exist anymore apparently?

[tardy rain]

Is everyone grandfathered into this

[carmine apex]

they're grandmothered
come on mar pay attention grandfathers don't exist anymore

[uneven pine]

According to the language it seems so yes

[tardy rain]

Im sorry im still getting up to speed

This is all new to me

[torn pier]

there was a film about women-only world… sadly not in english…

[harsh tundra]

Movie from 80s and they already thought about forcing people trans then!

[torn pier]

yup…

[carmine apex]

matrix 1 was gonna have a trans character (switch) but people probably would've been hella confused

[harsh tundra]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexmission at least there's wiki article
With very detailed plot section

[torn pier]

yup

(also look at date ;p )

[tardy rain]

im ok with this

the amazons had a flourishing society

[green pelican]

executive orders dont mean shit to tldr it

dont go on reddit and you will convince yourself everyone is dying in 4 years

[glossy niche]

reddit fights tooth and nail against trump supporters but they will lose their shit if you criticise dems

because a better world isn't possible ig

[green pelican]

because if you disagree with me, fuck you and fuck you personally and i refuse to act like an adult and have a discussion to realize we both want the world to be a better place, just with different perspectives

the state of US politics

[glossy niche]

trump probably wearing this shit rn

[carmine apex]

men don't exist any more so they thus cannot be killed

[green pelican]

true

[glossy niche]

damn

he already finished em off

[grave cove]

they really just thanos snapped half the population

[green pelican]

kill all men was a crazy moment in history ngl

[glossy niche]

I agree but think there's lots more that can be said here

[grave cove]

what no nuance does to people

[torn pier]

trump is a girl…

[glossy niche]

I used to yell it as a joke and 2 of my friends legit got mad at me

[green pelican]

i mean i cant say im shocked

[glossy niche]

like bruh im a dude let me say deranged shjt

it's not even in the top 10 worst things I've said

[green pelican]

💀

[acoustic moss]

yooo

about time

[torn pier]

↑↑↑

[glossy niche]

tbh some arguments are made in bad faith and you might get assumed to be talking in bad faith

which would lead to this

like it's not right, it's an assumption, but I think a lot of us are guilty of this

[green pelican]

ive noticed people debate to "win" not to understand

[glossy niche]

oh, that

[green pelican]

because no matter how you slice it, if half the population is conservative then there has to be some sort of truth to them

and vice versa

in the same way i think im right, everyone who disagrees with me thinks they are right

so its hard for me to just say "fuck all {policital party}" becuase who am i to say who is objectively correct

[glossy niche]

https://youtube.com/@harperoc?si= plugging in a tuber I like because he talks about this

he has a bunch of vids criticising this "winning and not understanding" shit

Man fuck discord mobile ihope this company goes broke

[torn pier]

yeah? i use desktop browser (wild browser possibly based of old safari) discord version on my phone cause there is no discord for the OS i have… and i need to switch to landscape twice cause it bugs and zooms to unusable level… each time for 5 secs… (aka - 20 secs to just open discord where chat is visible) PLUS i don't see what i type cause keyboard overlays input… so well… app isn't that bad tbh…

[green pelican]

ooooo

i fw this

[glossy niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mLsHLZkvSw&t=93 u can watch from here skip the cringe intro

this is pretty surface level but I personally find it worth watching because sometimes u get so carried away that u forget how to talk normal

[glossy niche]

damn, mobile app still scheiß tho

[unkempt python]

what os ru on?

[torn pier]

ubuntu touch…

[green pelican]

Yeah I like this guy

[glossy niche]

he talks a lot about self Improvement which I also like

e.g lifting farming

[torn pier]

yeah. and today this crap even logged me out…

yep. even in browser…

Yup, and these glitches

And smol kbord

Yeah. App better i think...

[harsh tundra]

That's for all horizontal big screens, sadly. I couldn't play some games with quite dynamic chat on my phone because I couldn't read anything with keyboard open in horizontal mode

[torn pier]

glitches above better

there is sometimes even a glitch that screen zooms nth times if i rotate phone too quickly

[harsh tundra]

Discord glitches for me even in their official android app, so 🤷 just discord being discord.
...Who even chooses a name that means chaos for an app and want it stable?

[torn pier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

literally i feel like discord is done whole on canvas like a game…

[harsh tundra]

That's how the app looks in horizontal, btw.

[torn pier]

not too different tbh…

[harsh tundra]

That was my point, keyboard in any horizontal app looks awkward 😄

[torn pier]

well then… mine even looks better if to look closer as it doesn't cover bottom of input xD

but maybe it's that buttons on kbord smol…

[solemn tulip]

I don't see the problem

[torn pier]

The What?

you are on a tablet, yep?

[solemn tulip]

no

[torn pier]

write 1234

[carmine apex]

charge yer battery

[harsh tundra]

See mine, lol

[carmine apex]

also why do you have 2 cell tower connections

[harsh tundra]

Dual sim probably

[solemn tulip]

don't get me wrong, I'm not actually using that in landscape

yeah, dual sim

personal and work

[solemn tulip]

I think you've missed some messages

[harsh tundra]

Where? /j

[carmine apex]

are they separate carriers or does it just show the same signal twice

[solemn tulip]

separate

[harsh tundra]

Here you are, checked some

[solemn tulip]

crunchy jpeg

[harsh tundra]

Idk why someone thought saving phone screenshots as jpg is a good idea...
But those artifacts are discord's fault, it's a small image and displays correctly even when zoomed in in my gallery, but discord messed it up with some additional compression and weird zooming

In gallery zoom

Vs opening the pic above in discord zoom

[solemn tulip]

my phone saves screenshots as png

[scarlet peak]

hello

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/4CQA

anything i should change with this list? 1 is the most common and 5 is the most rare

[harsh tundra]

I thought those were png before today as well, because they're always crisp in gallery/before sharing to discord... But I checked and they're all jpg.

[solemn tulip]

eww

[scarlet peak]

1% charging

[gritty zinc]

screenshots are png on my phone

[harsh tundra]

Not charging, it's + icon, meaning power saving

[solemn tulip]

if nicky disappears we'll know why

[scarlet peak]

[harsh tundra]

I just plugged it in

[scarlet peak]

it's an android so she'll be here a while

[harsh tundra]

I have a fast charger

[harsh tundra]

She who?

[gritty zinc]

ah, because I probably set it up this way. it's a choice in advanced settings, and quite possibly the default was JPG

[harsh tundra]

My settings don't have this option :c

[harsh tundra]

3 minutes, already 10%
I love me some fast charging

[solemn tulip]

where?

[scarlet peak]

THEY will be here a while

i forgot you have neutral pronouns

oops no reply

[scarlet peak]

THEY will be here a while

[gritty zinc]

advanced features > screenshots and screen recordings

this is on a samsung phone

[solemn tulip]

yeah I don't have that

maybe the default outside samsung is sane?

[torn pier]

i have samsung & i don't have… no android there ;p

[harsh tundra]

OnePlus here, android in their OxygenOS flavour, but the default is jpg
But idk defaults on previous versions of Oxygen - they broke some defaults in android 10 or 11

[gritty zinc]

seems "advanced features" is a oneUI thing, so samsung only, probably

[solemn tulip]

someone was asking about jpg conversion and this was a response

expert

[gritty zinc]

⭐Diamond Product Expert

[harsh tundra]

🌠 Diamond Product Expert

[harsh tundra]

10 minutes, 25% fyi

[scarlet peak]

HUH

[harsh tundra]

Ultra-fast charging ftw

[scarlet peak]

nicki, can you review my fish list

[scarlet peak]

damn - what phone?

[harsh tundra]

OnePlus
Super vooc or whatever their fast charging tech is called

Newer have even more powerful chargers, I believe

[torn pier]

fox…

[scarlet peak]

[harsh tundra]

[torn pier]

yipp!

[grave cove]

cinematic ahh fox

[gritty zinc]

woah, 80W or 100W wired

[harsh tundra]

I think I got this photo off r/foxes ages ago

[gritty zinc]

my samsung does 25W wired and that's already a bit scary

[glossy niche]

airplane ears

[torn pier]

yyipppp!!!

[glossy niche]

a victim of the sprout

[harsh tundra]

[quick ledge]

yeah, mine does 100W

oneplus 12/13 has 50W wireless charging, too

[scarlet peak]

any ideas?

[harsh tundra]

50 minutes, 98%
If anyone's still curious.
I think around 80% it slows down a bit

[grave cove]

ios does that too

[quasi blaze]

I’m going to have a 30 mins meeting tomorrow with my manager on how to grant API Permissions for Microsoft SharePoint 🙈

(I said it’s okay to ping me also)

[vale raven]

Here's a free ping

[vale raven]

Sounds like you're getting what you need.

[quasi blaze]

I sent him a screenshot on how to do it

30 minute meeting is not needed

There’s video tutorials too

But w/e. he’s my manager

[grave cove]

"this could've been an email" moment

[vale raven]

Heh

My boss FINALLY put in a ticket with a decent description instead of calling me into his office to ramble about it the other day

But when I asked him to prioritize that project he said "IDK what you're talking about, show me where wer discussed this"

So I linked him the ticket to which he said "IDK what was going on with that ticket"

it's YOUR ticket

[grave cove]

business major gameplay

[quasi blaze]

Damn. Your story is archetypal to mine

Archetypal to my personal experiences i mean

[civic pasture]

Omg your boss seems to be an angry person @vale raven

Does he always get aggressive

Rambling sounds unfair

[honest star]

I fucking hate azure jesus fucking christ. The record I want to edit is behind the goddamn "Scroll Back To Top" button.

[robust zephyr]

Haha

Nice UI

Is this a web UI? Maybe you can just delete it with the inspector

[frozen crane]

guess you have no choice but to scroll back to the top

[narrow coral]

This is exactly why I give the container thingy some bottom margin.

[plush sun]

Or scroll up a little bit just to be able to click the edit button through the small window

[honest star]

There is no small window. The button completely overlaps the entry

[lofty heart]

That style that button has looks weirdly out of place as well

I don't think i've ever seen one in azure

[quick ledge]

try zooming out

[vale raven]

Yeah I’ve never gotten that in Azure either

[solemn tulip]

epitome of UX design

[glossy niche]

ux so good you have to open dev tools and delete shjt to make it usable

[tardy plover]

who did this LOL

[quasi blaze]

import os
from azure.identity import ClientSecretCredential
from msgraph.core import GraphClient


def build_graph_client() -> GraphClient:
    """Build authenticated GraphClient."""
    client_secret_credential = ClientSecretCredential(
        tenant_id=os.getenv('ms_tenant_id'),
        client_id=os.getenv('ms_client_id'),
        client_secret=os.getenv('ms_secret_value'),
    )

    return GraphClient(credential=client_secret_credential)

from pl.gh_resources.microsoft_graph_api import microsoft_graph_client

graph_client = microsoft_graph_client.build_graph_client()

MICROSOFT_SHAREPOINT_SITE_URL = 'https://graph.microsoft.com/v1.0/sites/myexample'

response = graph_client.get(MICROSOFT_SHAREPOINT_SITE_URL)

print(response)

The value assigned to MICROSOFT_SHAREPOINT_SITE_URL is the correct way to send a get request to a SharePoint site right? Because I am getting 403 as a response code and I don't know what's going wrong

[vale raven]

What permissions does the application have?

[quasi blaze]

I have these

ChatGPT is saying

From your screenshot, the configured permissions include the following:

Mail.Send (Delegated and Application)
SharePointTenantSettings.Read (Application)
SharePointTenantSettings.ReadWrite (Application)
User.Read (Delegated)

Observations:
While you have SharePointTenantSettings.Read and SharePointTenantSettings.ReadWrite, these are related to tenant-level SharePoint settings and not for accessing site content.
To interact with SharePoint sites and retrieve content, you need one of the following permissions:
Sites.Read.All (Application or Delegated)
Sites.ReadWrite.All (Application or Delegated)
Sites.Manage.All (if managing permissions or settings at the site level)

Since it's ChatGPT their suggestions are not always correct so I am posting it's response here to confirm if they are correct

[vale raven]

Yeah that's not right

[quasi blaze]

Damn

[vale raven]

I think ChatGPT is right

[quasi blaze]

Ohh

[quasi blaze]

Thanks a lot man

[vale raven]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/api/site-get?view=graph-rest-1.0&tabs=http#permissions

The docs will [should] always tell you what permissions you need

Your code right now, just looking at the site, should only need Read
But if you want to start changing the site, you'll need ReadWrite

[vale raven]

[grave cove]

impossible

[quasi blaze]

Damn

[thin cloak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZhlA_sCjH8?si=w9wTkOQAb4HGs7sU

[quasi blaze]

I get a 400 bad request response

There’s progress

[vale raven]

Progress is good

[glossy niche]

oh wait I just remembered azure is a Microsoft product, I missed a chance to complain about it

[fringe rain]

wheres microsoft defender

[young shoal]

bro is Microsoft offender

[glossy niche]

my discord nick name was "GNU Windows Offenderd" for like 2 months 🗿

interps nick name is part of the bit, he's just more committed than I am

[grave cove]

it’s shen

he defends Microsoft

[tardy rain]

Absolutely based opinion

Microsoft only has great products

Like teams

Or that weird xbox game overlay

[grave cove]

bro is being held hostage by microsoft

[tardy rain]

I love edge's vertical tabs

[young shoal]

real

[vale raven]

Thanks

[scarlet peak]

just edit the HTML and remove that element

i'm 18 hours late but who cares

[solemn tulip]

Mr Anigans to you

[steady gale]

do you guys think its weird if i have nothing else to talk about other than programming?

[torn pier]

idk too…

my family have enough of me cause i can't talk about other things that computer-related for example…

but i feel like in these times i just should…

[torn pier]

who said vertical tabs?

[tardy rain]

I fuck with edge vertical tabs and tab groups

[torn pier]

tab containers even better cuz blocking cookiez…

[vale raven]

Dumb but funny or just dumb?

[grave cove]

dumb

[carmine apex]

jpeg artifacts
do you really have to ask

side note:

Eduardo Ordax, Generative AI Lead @ AWS

[vale raven]

Don’t you?

[carmine apex]

don't i what

[steady gale]

how old r u

[torn pier]

20

[low chasm]

I think just in general it's healthy to have more than one thing you're into

conversations also don't inherently need to have like, a structured topic.

[glossy niche]

it's kinda real

and it's funny to watxh them struggle

[fleet oyster]

hi

[civic pasture]

HI

HOI

[unkempt python]

wer

[torn pier]

hi :|

[thick ore]

was*

fuck m$ 🖕

[gritty zinc]

this is a great meme because it sounds like a shitpost but stuff like that actually does work as a prompt (which I suspect the mememaker knows)

(in particular, I've seen some recent research that modern models can tell when they're hallucinating and telling them to not hallucinate improves quality)

[glossy niche]

damn

the joy of life has left the eyes of yet another youth

how many more must lose their spark to Microsoft

[harsh tundra]

I don't think windows installer asked me to set my computer name, so today I got spooked "wtf is this weird 'DESKTOP-8K...' connected to the network"

anyways, the computer's name used to be Samuel before the ssd broke... should the resurrected Samuel keep the same name? maybe it's time to switch themes... 🤔

[thick ore]

Samuel II

or Samuel Jr.

[harsh tundra]

but that suggests a child

as for the theme... masc names starting with S for computers was an accidental theme from high school dorms - two people already had laptops with such names and some other people including me joined in. I've used Stuart for a few years of uni as well, until I bought Samuel

but at the time I haven't realised yet that I'm nonbinary, so now that I stopped to think, it kinda feels weird using clearly gendered names

[solemn tulip]

a junior does not really suggest a child

well, it's the offspring of a senior

but might not be a child

[harsh tundra]

I meant child of the previous Samuel, not child as in age
it would make sense if I used some parts of the old one... but it's only disk swapped and new system install

[willow narwhal]

"Sam" -> like a more modern version of Samuel, also pretty gender-neutral

[solemn tulip]

arguing Samanthics

computer hostnames are fun

my chain of hostnames between computer migrations went
nemesis → phoenix → firebird

I also have my nas/server qb now

[willow narwhal]

I used to have fancy computer names (pretty much changed the naming scheme for every new computer), but now retconned everything to just be called I, II, III, ...

(That's for my main personal machine, I do have a "classic" naming scheme for servers)

[harsh tundra]

that's... pretty clever, lol
although it feels weird being that short, I'll go with it for now

[harsh tundra]

nemesis sounds like a name for a printer

[gritty zinc]

otn a nemesis the printer

[harsh tundra]

I have a friend who does insect names. from what I remember their main machine was butterfly

[solemn tulip]

which is a double pun, it's very cube shaped, and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/きゅうび#Japanese

[gritty zinc]

so it's still the... sameuel?

[solemn tulip]

[noun] sudden fire
[noun] intense heat
matches with my desktop name well

[harsh tundra]

I'm loling and my cat looked at me weird. thank you

[solemn tulip]

it was a laptop running arch

[harsh tundra]

pretty good name, then

[solemn tulip]

apt

[harsh tundra]

arch nemesis
and considering how arch is hard/annoying to set up...

[willow narwhal]

Apt? I thought you used arch?

[solemn tulip]

I knew that response was coming 😛

[solemn tulip]

it's not that bad

[harsh tundra]

Polish uncyclopedia had a quite nice take on arch linux
(it helped that one of the admins was cs student at the same time as me, a lot of tech topics were done then, lol)

https://nonsa-pl.translate.goog/wiki/Arch_Linux?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp google translate of the page if anyone's curious

Arch Linux – a Linux distribution designed for people who have memorized all the system configuration files. For more advanced users, Gentoo is recommended – there you have to compile everything yourself, which means that inhuman skills are as necessary as an efficient processor.

It is characterized by the fact that installing any graphical environment is practically impossible. That is why the most popular browser on this system is Lynx , and the IRC client is irssi.

[gritty zinc]

?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[fringe rain]

the arch hate is crazy 😭

it all just comes off as elitism to me

[harsh tundra]

that's just how google translate codes the translation arguments for some reason. instead of readable stuff, they do this

[solemn tulip]

I'm trying to follow a naming scheme of "is a"

a bit like what fedora does

[harsh tundra]

as I said, Polish uncyclopedia has a lot of stuff on other linux stuff as well. whole posix topics got a lot of such articles during the year with operating systems classes 😄

[solemn tulip]

nemesis is the name of a fictional bird, a phoenix is a fictional bird

a phoenix is a fire bird

I wonder what my next name will be 🥴

maybe it will be a plane

[stark prawn]

moltres

[solemn tulip]

more like molquatro

moltres has some interesting localizations

German Lavados
French Sulfura

sulfura goes pretty hard

[willow narwhal]

Scrooge McDuck

[harsh tundra]

There's also https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fletchinder_(Pokémon) and its evolution Talonflame
DE Dartignis sounds cool.

Charizard is also Fire/Flying types, same as Moltres and those two

Oricorio Baile style is also Fire/Flying https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Oricorio_(Pokémon)

And Ho-Oh is also Fire/Flying

[stark prawn]

There is also the most creative pokemon to be created in recent memory
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/flamigo

[harsh tundra]

If you don't mind 'looks like flying but is not Flying type', then Volcarona. Also has paradox Pokemon associated with it, the future version is really cool looking

[stark prawn]

reminder that charizard is on average only 170cm tall

tiny dragon

[harsh tundra]

Not a dragon 🤓

[stark prawn]

They're still dragons in my heart

[harsh tundra]

Also, anime doesn't really keep the height and weight stuff from pokedex... Especially weight

[stark prawn]

72kg isn't unrealistic if ash works out a bit

ash must be tiny though

[harsh tundra]

His arms don't look like they have a lot of muscle.
Also Cosmoem is 999.9kg in pokedex and he lifts it 💀

[stark prawn]

That's impressive

[harsh tundra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/cjeezk/lets_look_at_ash_ketchums_physicals_strength/ sadly linked gifs with scenes don't work

[strange blade]

Jessie was able to stop a dragonite with a frying pan

must be getting those gains

[harsh tundra]

If you hit almost any creature at the right spot on their head, you will stop them...

[strange blade]

Yeah but it was flying towards them at high speeds I think

That's like stopping a seaplane sized bullet with a frying pan

[stark prawn]

It's a dragonfruit tree you see, that's why it's dragon type

[strange blade]

dragon deez coconuts looking tree

[grave cove]

Is this me?

[vale raven]

You wish you were that cool

[tardy rain]

Jesse is built that way

[civic pasture]

Who plays TCG here?

[civic pasture]

You do?

[grave cove]

what’s that

[stark prawn]

trading card game

[nova meteor]

When stream started?

[stark prawn]

You'll have more luck in #voice-chat-text-0

[civic pasture]

Do you play Pokémon

[stark prawn]

i play the pocket tcg sometimes

and mtg

[civic pasture]

Mtg?

Main trading game?

[stark prawn]

the og

magic

[tardy rain]

Is it time?

To d-d-d-d-d-duel?

[stark prawn]

My grandpa's deck has no pathetic cards.

(except kuriboh)

[jovial oriole]

cooked

bombed the exam

how do i disapear into the woods forever and never be found again?

[magic leaf]

brisket?

[brazen ingot]

2 ps

[glossy niche]

@round pendant this is why you should try TS

its full of 50 line generic expressions like this

[round pendant]

in an ideal world this should be something like

ExtractRouteParams(T: str): Type = match T with
  | start ":" param "/" rest => {param: str} | ExtractRouteParams(rest)
  | start ":" param => {param: str}
  | otherwise => {}

[glossy niche]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm real

there are some TS alternatives that have this btw

whats it calle

civet?

https://civet.dev/reference

heres one such langauge

it has pipe operators and shit

oh wait this isnt the one

i think it was elm

https://guide.elm-lang.org/types/pattern_matching elm has this:

[round pendant]

the main point being not having an entirely separate language for the typing part

[glossy niche]

type User
  = Regular String Int
  | Visitor String

[glossy niche]

oh

i thought u just meant synctatic sugar mb

but i love sugar tbh

[round pendant]

well, it is a syntactical decision, just not sugar

[glossy niche]

all language is synctatic sugar

@ idiots who claim "TS is just a linter" because it does not compile to assembly

[thick ore]

wgat

are we deadass

[glossy niche]

yeah theo t3 made a viddeo just to claim this

dude anything that is turing complete and compiles is a proggy langauge to me

no actually

doesnt even have to compile

it just needs the spec

[thick ore]

bro fuck theo

[glossy niche]

this is what happens when you dont take compilers clas

look i like some of his takes but he reeks of didntreadtheory syndrome

i bet hes never written a compiler

https://tenor.com/view/sus-cat-cat-stare-stare-bruh-cat-really-n-gif-25597234

ive only ever written a shitty one for a class

[thick ore]

i wrote a compiler that compiles "python main.py" to "Hello, world!"

[round pendant]

what did you compile to? and how (e.g. took the intel x86 64 manual and encoded instructions yourself or used some library)
and what language did you write the compiler in

[glossy niche]

wrote it in C
langauge was pascal based
it compiled to C

[graceful basin]

V moment /hj

[glossy niche]

huh

[graceful basin]

early V was largely a naive translator to C

[glossy niche]

python 2

wait that exists

(python) 2

[solemn tulip]

python²

or is that pypy?

[glossy niche]

pypy absed

basd

[graceful basin]

thoughts on this notation?

[young shoal]

for x in L: L.append(x) vibes

[glossy niche]

What a delightful lady taking care of her son, I wonder what kind of career he got into since

I can't stop laughing at this shit man 😭

[carmine apex]

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/dubious-quote-attributed-to-trumps-mother/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trumps-mom-call-him-idiot/
nice try

[gray oriole]

to be fair, it only says its unfounded :3

like a rumor! we like rumors, right?

[crystal spruce]

what does it mean

[graceful basin]

Q is a set of numbers from 1 to some finite cardinal bound

[rough sapphire]

It sort of is but sort of isn’t

It’s not a compiler

[rough sapphire]

I’ve written compilers professionally, I’m here to say that TS is sorta a linter but not exactly, it’s more so an abstraction layer between JS and the programmer

It’s a layer of abstraction that’s then delegated and handed off to JS, TS is transpiled into JS

There’s a distinct difference between compilation and transpilation

[timid latch]

Is there tho?

[rough sapphire]

Typically has to do with the level of abstraction difference between the source language and the target language

[rough sapphire]

Yes

They also have completely different implications

[timid latch]

I mean... Compilation is a form of transpiling

[rough sapphire]

Other way around

But once again, they have drastically different implications and they differ in terms of abstraction translation

[timid latch]

Oh right, my bad, just woke up

[rough sapphire]

All good

When you say compilation, you usually assume some sort of lower level code generation, which can reflect on the design of your application

For instance, instruction selection

That can heavily influence IR/IL designs & formats, which can then influence your backend

Simply put, compilation has a heavier emphasis on synthesis and transpilation has a heavier emphasis on analysis

And for the record, these definitions are rather arbitrary and it’s just how I view it from my perspective as someone with a profound interest in compilers

[crystal spruce]

kinda cursed ngl imo

[graceful basin]

yea, I'll probably do something else

[solemn tulip]

in my mental model transpilation is a form of compilation within the same level of abstraction

high level to high level, or maybe low level to low level

while (traditional) compilers are going from higher to lower abstraction levels

[solemn tulip]

do you want to refer to the cardinality, or is the only important thing that it's finite?

Q = {1, 2, ..., n} seems like a sensible formulation, especially if you care at all about the size of the thing

[graceful basin]

yea, that's what I went with eventually

[solemn tulip]

there is Z/n, but that's probably not what you're actually after

[civic pasture]

Hi

I came here to say hi

And bye

Cuz I’m getting breakfast

[rough sapphire]

Yep

That’s generally how people conceive it

[glossy niche]

Yeah same, to me it just means you still need another full fledged compiler or interpreter to get things done

Unlike for example a VM

It might be a bad definition

I haven't thought much about it

[glossy niche]

SMH why do you need to fact check the funny

[tardy rain]

Its not funny if its made up

[glossy niche]

Mmm, true

Its like finding out your favorite art is AI

But

I dohave the ability to delude my self into finding made up thing funny

[icy gate]

looking for someone who is good at mongoose (nodejs) and could answer me some questions and might even help with something

[harsh tundra]

We don't like spamming in this server, you posted this in all 3 offtopic channels AND #python-discussion

[icy gate]

excuse me

sorry

but i'm so lost

and i've been looking for someone

to help

for 3 days now

like i can even pay

😭

[harsh tundra]

!rule 9

[royal lake]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[icy gate]

brother

[harsh tundra]

Try js server maybe?

[icy gate]

i'm so lost

like i'll do everything

[icy gate]

they are all dead

i've even joined a mongodb server

which is even more dead

[spiral shale]

https://www.tiktok.com/@kyuzenne/video/7464391874632011040?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7464370901736588822

[jovial oriole]

Reap

Real

[scarlet peak]

try the coding den

[scarlet peak]

[compact saddle]

Hi all, new to here and to python. Currently trying to wrap my head around classes. Did anyone else take a mental prolapse learning classes? I

[thick ore]

are you having a hard time on the conceptual or the syntactical part?

[compact saddle]

I guess the conceptualisation. Like I know how they're structured and I can essentially build one but I don't know why they work I guess.

[thick ore]

could you elaborate on "I don't know why they work"?

[compact saddle]

So how they communicate and utilise inner functions and when to know a function is better served as a different class. What hierarchy changes and utilisez other class functions.

Is the self.() Stuff attributes? Or parameters?

I've read the python docs tutorial, done zed a shaws book and for the life of me it's like being able to hear a word you can't spell 🤣

[thick ore]

self typically refers to the instance of the class the method is being called on

something like self.health refers to an attribute: health is an attribute of the class

[compact saddle]

Yea and it binds that attribute to itself? Hence self.?
I created a class that had sel.health and self.stamina and had (action) functions that removed stamina. I struggled with being able to change the attributes from outside sources. Such as an NPC class taking away health. It's that getting the 2 to communicate better

[thick ore]

class NPC:
    def __init__(self):
        self.name = "Bob By"
        self.health = 100

    def take_damage(self, amount):
        #           ^^^^ This self is a parameter
        #                It does not bind an attribute to the object
        self.health -= amount

# Above is conceptually similar to this:
bob = {"name": "Bob By", "health": 100}

def take_damage(self, amount):
    self["health"] -= amount

take_damage(bob, 100)

[compact saddle]

So if the player_character attacked with a function that said did 10 damage how would that call the take damage function inside the box class

NPC*

[thick ore]

# Let's say Bob has 100 health
bob = NPC("Bob By", 100)

# Bob is attacked by a zombie (ouch)
bob.take_damage(10)

# Internally, the above function call does:
self.health -= 10
# ...where self is bob (the instance of NPC), so it's technically:
bob.health -= 10
# Therefore, if we print bob.health:
print(bob.health)
# ...we get 90

[compact saddle]

Ok I think I understand just gotta get on the comp and do it. Thanks for taking the time man appreciate it

[sterile epoch]

can anyone suggest me a community server like this for web development?
mainly for js and stuff

[quasi blaze]

The knowledge gap of software development and how computers work between my manager and me is a lot and it’s overwhelming sometimes smh

[granite tree]

The interesting thing is that: the more senior you get, the wider that gap becomes... not narrower. This is part of being an engineer: learning to communicate with diverse audiences.

[quasi blaze]

Yeah but the challenge for me is that the higher up with the less knowledge has the final say and I have to convince them as much as possible on why their idea is bad

[dapper dew]

Can you frame it in terms of cost and time?

Or just a simple pros and cons

Also remember the triangle of business:

Fast
Cheap
Quality

Pick two at the detriment of the third

[quasi blaze]

Interesting. I never heard of this.

Also to add what I said previously: I guess this is part of being a specialist. System designers in my company also deals with the similar challenges as me. For example, they speak with consultants of the client and tell them “the measurements out of place” and the consultants respond “just keep them.”

This is challenging because if a client makes a complaint about the installations from the drawings, It falls back on the system designers.

[granite tree]

This is always the case.

[dapper dew]

If the client is providing the drawing and they do not accept the feedback, that usually goes into some meeting minutes with who decided it

Later if they are demanding a fix for free, you can show who made the decision and when

[granite tree]

The irony of this is there's a fourth dimension: features. This is usually my fight: they want to talk cost/time/featurss, but forget about 'good' / quality

[dapper dew]

OneNote's integration with Office meeting minutes is great for this. It usually includes the invited participants as a checklist

[dapper dew]

That's true. I usually view the scope discussion as separate but usually the most important

[granite tree]

One of my first mgmt jobs was literally this: the predecessors had spent all their times arguing features/cost/time.... even tho cost (people) was fixed and time was set by mgmt and the only variable was features.

My predecessors were gone -bc- the quality was terrible.

Mind you: this was a huge engineering organization that should've known better. Everybody four levels above me were far more experienced than me/etc.

Anyway, the conjoined triangle of success is all I believe in now. (before someone looks it up, this is a joke, from the great documentary: Silicon Valley)

[glossy niche]

I find my self less happy with deepseek and more happy with openai losing their shot over it

Its a cool project, I am trying it out

[uneven pine]

The problem running local AI models is how much power they need

Even tiny 8b models max out a 3070ti/5800x3d combo

[rocky trellis]

Anyone want a python buddy

[uneven pine]

Nope, especially not someone spamming the same message across channels

[torn pier]

is that quite understandable thingy? just been thinking of a thing and it very lacks scripting… yk…

main(){
in() <- inp;
thing = "abc" + inp + (6 - 0x1 / 2.7*6);
arr = [];
x = 0;
<5>|
arr[x] = x*#;
x++;
|;
<thing>:(
out() <- thing;
)?(
out() <- "error";
);
};

[willow narwhal]

I think I understand it, yeah

[torn pier]

so what it does? and what doesn't?

[willow narwhal]

I think it would print "abcyourinput3.77777", after computing (but not printing) something like [0, 1, 4, 9, 16].

[unkempt python]

wait if our world is an object, that means "world" is a class --which means that the possibility of there being lots of "world" instances is...high

[torn pier]

first one - yup

second is a bug, which i fixed

[lament cairn]

do the locally ran models self-censor when you tell them to output "Xi Jinping"?

[glossy niche]

Idk man why do people talk about those models like their primary use case is explaining what happened in 1989

22 trillion dollar market just to make an ai that prints photos of tankman

[lament cairn]

because funny

[glossy niche]

ask Chinese model about 1989
ask American model about 2001

Billions of training dollars well spent

[lament cairn]

just like john ai intended

[lunar shore]

Considering P is a large prime number, would this work as a decent hashing function?

def hash_str(a: str) -> int:
    return sum([ord(character) * P ** (i+1) for i, character in enumerate(a)])

[graceful basin]

what is the purpose of the hash?

[lunar shore]

Used in a hashmap

[graceful basin]

too expensive

[lunar shore]

ooo, is it because of the **?

[graceful basin]

I'd at least do pow(P, i+1, 2**64)

which will keep you from overcalculating

since you probably don't need hashes over 64 bits

[lunar shore]

Ah

[solemn tulip]

this is just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_hash no?

polynomial rolling hash in particular

[harsh tundra]

Rolling hash is useful when, well, you roll it. Calculate next hash from previous

[lament cairn]

https://regexlicensing.org/

[solemn tulip]

and from a prefix sum you can compute the hash of any substring in O(1)

[civic pasture]

whats up everyone

where are my friendsw

[rough sapphire]

i thought this was referring to software licenses

as in you were not allowed to use regexes if your codebase wasn't GPL'd or something

why are all of the incidents twitter links

[lament cairn]

because blogs are for old people

[unkempt python]

is there any gtk theme for catppuccin that isn't archived

[unkempt python]

nvm

found it

[torn pier]

bruh what?

[glossy niche]

I absolutely fucking detest the js class names package

my Co worker keeps installing it

dude its only a bit more complex than is-number

what the fuck is wrong with front end devs man

they love verbose code that does nothing

[tardy rain]

The what package

[glossy niche]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/classnames

their implementation is 50 lines

but you can do it in 1

[glossy niche]

heres my 20 line impl of it

function parseClassNames(...args: (string | (null | undefined | false| string[]) | null | undefined | false)[]) {
    let seen: Set<String> = new Set();
    args.forEach(arg => {
        if (!arg) return;

        if (Array.isArray(arg)) {
            parseClassNames(...arg).forEach(seen.add.bind(seen));
            return;
        }

        arg.split(' ').forEach(seen.add.bind(seen));
    })  

    return seen;
}

const classNames = (...args: (string | (null | undefined | false| string[]) | null | undefined | false)[]): string => (
    Array.from(parseClassNames(...args)).join(' ')
);

console.log(classNames('asdas', 1 === 2 && 'bong', 1 === 1 && 'bing', ['saba', 1 && 'amogus', [], null, undefined, 'sus amogus', 'sus']))

[robust zephyr]

I thought you said it could be done in 1

[glossy niche]

you can do it in one but its cleaner this way

here is a 1 line impl but it does not deduplicate classes in the same string nor does it recurse

those arent necessary tho tbh

function classNames(...args: (string | false | null | undefined | string[])[]): string { return Array.from(new Set(args.flat().filter(Boolean))).join(" "); }

console.log(classNames("btn", "btn-primary", "btn")); // "btn btn-primary"
console.log(classNames("alert", "", null, "active", "alert")); // "alert active"
console.log(classNames(["header", "bold"], "bold", "fixed")); // "header bold fixed"

[tardy rain]

Why the fuck would you need a package like that

Js devs make packages out if anything nowadays

[graceful basin]

Probably a classic case of "I have no idea what the rules are here beyond space separated words, so I'll let a library figure it out"

Maybe there's some sneaky edge case which needs to be handled properly

[grim flicker]

I've commented so much code today...

Endless testing.

[carmine apex]

@vale raven

[vale raven]

What did I do??

[shadow jetty]

🔫

[carmine apex]

[vale raven]

[carmine apex]

#staff-announcements message

[uneven pine]

@harsh tundra

[harsh tundra]

[lament cairn]

it's meant to do whatever this is with react https://github.com/JedWatson/classnames?tab=readme-ov-file#usage-with-reactjs

[rough sapphire]

i would go on a rant about closed platforms right now but that'd make me look like a hypocrite considering the platform i'm using righ tnow

i have not read The Fine Tweets but if it's short enough to fit in a tweet (or thread) surely it could be embedded into the incidents webpage

[lament cairn]

I was joking

[lament cairn]

Probably to give the original source more visibility

[quick ledge]

Shenanigans

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-enough-the-last-of-us-david-can't-argue-with-that-good-point-gif-8101775335069780084

[glossy niche]

I know what it is, I just hate that people import shit that takes 10 mins to implement

[robust zephyr]

Yeah it’s way more efficient to just write everything on your own

[glossy niche]

yeah it's also great to keep adding depencies that we absolutely do not need

especially when we ship shit to the client and bundle size matters

https://x.com/kylietcheung/status/1884843833969570097

Kylie Cheung (@kylietcheung) on X

Tech bros accusing deepseek of stealing from ChatGPT

X · Jan 30, 2025, 5:59 AM

[tulip forge]

same here

dude its so annoying

import tkinter as tk
from pynput import keyboard

class KeyCounterApp:
def init(self, root):
self.root = root
self.root.title("Key Counter")

    self.key_count = 0
    self.key_count_label = tk.Label(root, text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}", font=("Helvetica", 16))
    self.key_count_label.pack(pady=20)

    self.reset_button = tk.Button(root, text="Reset Counter", command=self.reset_counter, font=("Helvetica", 14))
    self.reset_button.pack(pady=10)

    self.quit_button = tk.Button(root, text="Quit", command=self.quit_app, font=("Helvetica", 14))
    self.quit_button.pack(pady=10)

    # Start listening to key presses
    self.listener = keyboard.Listener(on_press=self.on_key_press)
    self.listener.start()

def on_key_press(self, key):
    self.key_count += 1
    self.key_count_label.config(text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}")

def reset_counter(self):
    self.key_count = 0
    self.key_count_label.config(text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}")

def quit_app(self):
    self.listener.stop()
    self.root.destroy()

if name == "main":
root = tk.Tk()
app = KeyCounterApp(root)
root.mainloop()
is this keycounter lowkey ok?

wait how do I paste like a copy thing

im a idiot

sorry guys im a begginer

[glossy niche]

you s so this to make your code neat

[glossy niche]

def amogus(): ...

[tulip forge]

oh

[glossy niche]

this prevents discord from messing up markdown

[tulip forge]

silly me i am deeply sorry

[glossy niche]

npnp

[tulip forge]

im stupid

im stupid x2

import tkinter as tk
from pynput import keyboard

class KeyCounterApp:
    def __init__(self, root):
        self.root = root
        self.root.title("Key Counter")

        self.key_count = 0
        self.key_count_label = tk.Label(root, text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}", font=("Helvetica", 16))
        self.key_count_label.pack(pady=20)

        self.reset_button = tk.Button(root, text="Reset Counter", command=self.reset_counter, font=("Helvetica", 14))
        self.reset_button.pack(pady=10)

        self.quit_button = tk.Button(root, text="Quit", command=self.quit_app, font=("Helvetica", 14))
        self.quit_button.pack(pady=10)

        # Start listening to key presses
        self.listener = keyboard.Listener(on_press=self.on_key_press)
        self.listener.start()

    def on_key_press(self, key):
        self.key_count += 1
        self.key_count_label.config(text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}")

    def reset_counter(self):
        self.key_count = 0
        self.key_count_label.config(text=f"Key Presses: {self.key_count}")

    def quit_app(self):
        self.listener.stop()
        self.root.destroy()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    root = tk.Tk()
    app = KeyCounterApp(root)
    root.mainloop()
is this keycounter lowkey ok?

yay

i figured it out

im finnaly not stupid anymore

well kinda

bruh im still stupid

im giving up

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-saw-cut-down-tree-sawing-gif-12679628868938263919

[tulip forge]

i dont give up coding i gave upl in the that idea :)

[sleek hull]

#1334584046759444554 if you are free

[quasi blaze]

Has anybody use DAKBOARD? How can I use Python to send API requests to a service to display the data on the DAKBOARD?

[vale raven]

I don’t know that name
But I see https://documenter.getpostman.com/view/8098574/SVSGNAGs

You can click change the code samples from curl to Python

[quasi blaze]

Ah yes! I was reading that an hour ago. I forgot to post an update

[vale raven]

👍

[quasi blaze]

You can use a Raspberry PI as a device for this

[quasi blaze]

One of my co-workers uses DAKBoard for it but I have a hard understanding how the Raspberry Pi gets incoroporated into the whole thing

[vale raven]

Yeah that’s not super clear to me either just looking at this

[quasi blaze]

My co-worker wants to have a visualization of the remaining projects that project managers have left to complete on his DAKBoard from ConnectWise. This sounds like a cool project to me

[vale raven]

Could be fun

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-serval-soggadance-dance-gif-20248879

thsi song is fire

heads will roll on the floor

[rough sapphire]

shut

[frozen crane]

@elfin holly how would you feel about a merger between romania and moldova?

[elfin holly]

We jost got in Shengen, with Moldova's corruptions, we would be out of it too soon

[frozen crane]

Interesting.
I was just visiting family in Ireland, and for the people there who want to unify the island, it seems to be a matter of principle more than anything else.

[elfin holly]

Well yeah, we had problems getting in Shengen because of illegal ciggarate traffic at our borders

[elfin holly]

people would just go to Moldova or Hungary and buy ciggarates at a much lower cost and import them in the country. And the authority at the borders would just get a share and let others pass

they would end up making 4000 euros a month, where the minimum salary in my country is around 500 euros

[lusty widget]

Wdym by principle?

[frozen crane]

they want ireland to be unified because they disagree with the reasons it wasn't unified initially. not because (for example) they think it would be better economically, or some other reason like that.

[elfin holly]

Nowadays, a great part of my country just seeks it's better and own interest

[wary barn]

Ah

Seems the whole world is going into isolationist mode kinda

Wait we talking about politics?

Or just me?

Or am I being dumb?

I know politics isn't for everyone and it doesn't help fuelling the fire and all

[elfin holly]

Oh well you could argue it's psychology because Stelercus was interested in the motives of people from my country to merge with Moldova

[wary barn]

Ah

What's your country again?

[elfin holly]

but usually people around this server are quite wise and could actually hold a real debate in politics without getting offended much

[elfin holly]

Romania

[wary barn]

Ah

[wary barn]

I know only my local, state and national politics, maybe UK politics and Canada's politics

America seems to be in the news alot around the world

Well cause of the 47th president

[elfin holly]

oh, where do you live?

[wary barn]

Alaska

In the US of A

[tulip forge]

how can I start my coding career?

[elfin holly]

!resources

[royal lake]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[tulip forge]

wait I should type this in career discussion

[elfin holly]

oh probably yeah

[tulip forge]

yeah :P

[elfin holly]

oh that's interesting, quite cold around there

[wary barn]

Yeah

[tulip forge]

Is someone here from Romania?

well I am from Romania

[elfin holly]

So is Alaska a good place to live? How are the people there?

[wary barn]

Kinda alright kinda not really living up here depends on how you want to see it, we are friendly and help our neighbors the best we can to an extent

Depends how crazy you are

If you born here in Alaska +10 crazy, +20 if you remain here all your life

[elfin holly]

and which type of crazy are you?

[tulip forge]

im the type for crazy that when he types print(smth) forgots to put the "

[wary barn]

Born here, raised here so +20 crazy

You either like it here or you can withstand the coldness

[elfin holly]

and what's stopping you from moving out to another country?

[wary barn]

Alaska is apart of the US

Also money

[tulip forge]

can someone give me a side project ideea?

[elfin holly]

!projects

[royal lake]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[tulip forge]

oh

i didint know those exist :))

[elfin holly]

heh now you do

[tulip forge]

ya

[elfin holly]

maybe there cheaper countries, you do not need to go to US

[tulip forge]

should I do my english homework?

[wary barn]

Also being an American barley knows how to speak another language

My german isn't the best

[elfin holly]

you will catch latin languages easily

[elfin holly]

depends

[tulip forge]

je parle francais

[tulip forge]

well its kinda boring

idk if I will do it

i mean i kinda hate english in general but yeah I gotta do an exam on it so i gotta study

[wary barn]

A couple types of English Speaking American English, British English, Irish English and Australian English

[elfin holly]

that's some real mix of english

[wary barn]

Well English speaking types at least

American English is Hella basic

[tulip forge]

well I speak british english but I dont have the pronountiation

[elfin holly]

oh well, its the one taught in schools

[tulip forge]

ya

sadly

[elfin holly]

so you do not have much a choice

[tulip forge]

but I know it pretty well

well its a second language for me

my base language is Romanian

[elfin holly]

do you have any certifications for it?

[tulip forge]

cambridge B2

[elfin holly]

good

[tulip forge]

wait sorry B1 I HAD 159 POINTS

[elfin holly]

dayum

[tulip forge]

and I needed 160 to get b2

I was so mad

[elfin holly]

how unlucky

[tulip forge]

and im still mad

[elfin holly]

maybe you can get the C1 next time

[tulip forge]

yeah next year

hopefully

atleast I have a degree :))

[elfin holly]

heh yeah

[tulip forge]

I would also like a degree in fench

[elfin holly]

eh focus more on practical skills

you can pick up a language almost at any time

[tulip forge]

well Kinda

[elfin holly]

if you spend a few of months in a foreign country you will learn common words easily

[wary barn]

An old saying "practice makes it perfect"

[tulip forge]

indeed

[elfin holly]

yeah, but you would need a job in order to keep practicing what you like

otherwise dying of hunger isn't that pleasent

[wary barn]

Yeah

[tulip forge]

yeah you need the financial support

[tulip forge]

eh I've been through worse

[elfin holly]

do you have any passions you could make a living from?

[tulip forge]

coding

[elfin holly]

do you have a portofolio?

[tulip forge]

yes

but im a begginer

so its nothing much

[wary barn]

I'm more of a car guy

[tulip forge]

2 or 3 discord bots made in javascript and many many side projects

[wary barn]

So working on vehicles is good

[tulip forge]

btw I like to cook

[wary barn]

Was a computer geek back in school now I'm a car guy geek

[tulip forge]

:)))

[wary barn]

Lost my touch of coding

I'm more of a hands on learner now than a book worm

So working on vehicles is a better learning outcome than reading a book

[tulip forge]

idk about that dude

less physical work and more money better then more physical work and less money

I mean you do whatever you wanna do

[unkempt python]

setting up emacs language servers with eglot is the most tedious yet satisfying task ever

peep the wip

[opal trout]

You might find the :hook keyword useful https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/use-package/Hooks.html

and rather than starting clangd you can just use eglot-ensure

here is mine

(use-package eglot
  :hook ((haskell-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (c-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (racket-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (python-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (rust-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (java-mode . eglot-ensure)
     (clojure-mode . eglot-ensure))
  
  :config
  (setq completion-category-defaults nil))

There is almost certainly a better way to write this but I never became proficient enough in elisp to know how to reduce the eglot-ensure's and map them to all of my different modes

[unkempt python]

ty

[paper plover]

idk but this is really bad text

[granite tree]

Open a help thread and show how you created. May not be a font issue: look at how the circle is pixelated

[paper plover]

ok