ot1-perplexing-regexing

[brittle void]

that is what js does to a mf

[unkempt python]

IKR

i came back at line 11 tho

[brittle void]

line or nine?

[torn pier]

like

[brittle void]

ah

i see

[torn pier]

:>

[acoustic moss]

learning js was the first time i explored programming outside the school curriculum

[torn pier]

at me it was python actually

and now i enjoy lua+js more

[acoustic moss]

i lost those first projects 😔

forgot to back those up before i changed my ssd

[torn pier]

i need to check again scratch tbh…

[unkempt python]

i'll have yk, i live a life such that i have not needed to touch js since

[torn pier]

havent been there like in… years…

[unkempt python]

lol

i think my mom deleted mine or some shit 😭

[weak peak]

my condolences.

[torn pier]

poor you… at me family knows nothing about tech so they didnt even knew how to delete xD

[unkempt python]

lmaoooo

[torn pier]

yup

[low chasm]

mar im an adult now 😤

hit 18 on friday

[tardy rain]

Congrats

[acoustic moss]

we know youve been working hard for it

[grave cove]

??

[acoustic moss]

nah it was lowkey fire

i made scrabble and was so fucking proud of that monstrosity

[acoustic moss]

yeah bro i heard he'd been trying for a year

[grave cove]

well I’ve been trying for 2

[uneven pine]

I've been trying to go back for 9

[unkempt python]

why do i, as a mere human, have mod view

[glossy niche]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SLlWAFXqD6M

tf

[young shoal]

just use colemak, problem solved

[rough sapphire]

Cool

[uneven pine]

coal mack

[lament cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/HogleZoo/status/1866173728687628621.mp4

baby

[tardy rain]

I will pet one of these in my lifetime

[unkempt python]

it'll probably be hte end of your lifetie

[tardy rain]

Theyre small enough

It'll only be a slight mauling

I think i'll make it

[lament cairn]

try to get hired as a zookeeper

https://vxtwitter.com/skylar2g/status/1866241498179633213

[grave cove]

you'd sacrifice a limb to pet a snow leopard?

[carmine apex]

you wouldn't?

[grave cove]

mayhaps i would

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-pet-that-dog-gif-10120610406547814207

[carmine apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tmCIsSpvC8

[unkempt python]

@lament cairn u changed ur pfp

[lament cairn]

yea

nitro free trial

[unkempt python]

ah

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nitro-gif-25827489

[strange blade]

nitro

[lament cairn]

waste of mony (in my case)

[rough sapphire]

I LOVE STROOP WAFELS

[cloud oxide]

Stroopwafels are mid tho

[carmine apex]

no u

[cloud oxide]

Kruidnoten are better im dutch wo i got the right to say so 🤷‍♂️

[carmine apex]

why not both

[cloud oxide]

Stroopwafels are for the tourists kruidnoten are not 🙂

[spice storm]

كيفك يا حمممممممممص @solar vault

im surprised a discord gif is not a meme for once

[fathom musk]

@unkempt python u owe me a giant bowl of lychee jelly

[uneven pine]

Sounds like too much lychee jelly

[unkempt python]

[unkempt python]

im fresh out, sorry. next batch is coming in 2030

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-linux-aplay-urandom-random-gif-26003711

[spice storm]

are you an apple addict

[glossy niche]

no, I like orange fruits more

like carrots and oranges

[torpid hare]

why there is no tls 1.4 if there is a lot of people intercepting it

[unkempt python]

i prefer...lychee

[lament cairn]

wdym "Intercepting"?

[thick ore]

someone needs to sample /dev/urandom for a song

[lament cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/asahiyamazoo1/status/1866072916481429923.mp4

two kitties

(snow leopard and amur leopard)

[rough sapphire]

lol i tried it and as expected static

[torpid hare]

man in the middle

[green pelican]

more than just "intercepting" has to happen

TLS is encypted

iirc you would need a MITM with some cert fuckery

[robust zephyr]

Muffin In The Middle is an even more effective strategy

[green pelican]

but thats not a TLS "issue" thats an encrpytion 'issue"

something like this

[lament cairn]

As CLI said, MITM only works if your system's trusted certs have been fucked with
If that happens, you've got a big problem, and it's not just TLS

[quasi blaze]

This is sad. I think I bought a dead on arrival motherboard

[spare oriole]

RMA it then

[quasi blaze]

What’s happening is that my PC reboots every time after waking up from sleep mode

This is not how I envisioned my first PC building experience would end up like

[spare oriole]

okay, so just RMA if you think it's a faulty MB

[jovial oriole]

does computer science actually have a future

like a solid, increasing outlook

not just "we need min. X ppl, get X ppl"

[thick osprey]

How do you measure it?

[glossy niche]

smhhhhh sampling is lazy artists stealing music

[thick ore]

fr

the real music was made by whoever programmed /dev/urandom

[soft violet]

I used PRNG to do some of my things, but I'm guiding the manner in which it is applied.

[quasi blaze]

Idk why manufacturers would distribute defective motherboards to stores. Smh

[graceful basin]

it's expensive to check whether a motherboard works, and IG it turns out that it's cheaper to just deal with it when the customer finds it.

[spare oriole]

mistakes happen, things slip thru QA, have you never pushed a bug to prod?

[quasi blaze]

Yes but I always fix it

[spare oriole]

right, so if you send it back, they'll refund it or if you want to replace it then when it gets to their facilities, they'll inspect it, and fix any potential bugs.

[quasi blaze]

Well that’s only if I had my receipt

CanadaComputers doesn’t send receipts via email

[spare oriole]

have you tried calling them and asking how the process works in that case?

[quasi blaze]

Not yet

[spare oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uneven pine]

Manufacturer also has warranty

You don't have to go through retailer

You also should always keep receipts for electronic and any large purchases

[quasi blaze]

Good news. I have until January 12th to return it

[quasi blaze]

Gigabyte (the Manufacturer) says I need proof of purchase

[spare oriole]

there you go

[spare oriole]

im fairly sure that by law they have to give you a receipt of some sort, check your spam

[grave cove]

you sure its not just something you did

[quasi blaze]

Not anymore. I even loaded the default settings for the BIOS

I even turned off automatic restart in my Windows configuration

[grave cove]

what if something is wired improperly in hardware

[quasi blaze]

I reseated all of my cables, replugged and reconnected everything

I may try to update to earlier BIOS version

[grave cove]

maybe get someone else to double check it for you. it's exceedingly rare to get DOA parts

[quasi blaze]

I read that’s how some folks fixed it

This is the same issue that he’s complaining about

[grave cove]

well yeah i'm not saying defective parts just don't happen, i'm just saying it's incredibly rare

[spare oriole]

also, you didn't buy on amazon but yeah rare

[quasi blaze]

Factories don’t change based on which store they distribute their product to.

[young shoal]

they can

[quasi blaze]

My issue isn’t with the store. My issue is with the manufacturer

Me not buying it from amazon is irrelevant

[young shoal]

amazon has a generous return policy

[quasi blaze]

Okay. The customer bought the same motherboard as me and is having the same issue as me. That’s the point

[uneven pine]

I still think it's power State settings

[spare oriole]

i still think it's user error

[uneven pine]

Which can be a combination of reasons why they are causing shutdown and reboot from sleep mode

[uneven pine]

Power State settings sound potentially fall to user error - but by default most UEFI have the lowest power states available and sometimes either Windows or your PSU doesn't like that.

With my 5800x I was doing a lot of manual power and voltage management to get my overclock

With the x3d I just have it all default and have MSI's """nut buster""" or whatever it's called on

It has a stupid name but it's basically just "unsupported undervolting" for x3d chips

[soft violet]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-you-did-good-ian-malcolm-you-did-great-you-did-a-good-job-gif-26563855

@lilac badge

[quasi blaze]

Oh my god. I think it’s fixed!

[spare oriole]

how did you fix it?

[quasi blaze]

My friend downloaded the latest version of the BIOS and I download the old version and installed it back into the computer!

I put it in sleep mode four times and it didn’t reboot!

[lament cairn]

so you rolled back the bios version, and it fixed the reboot? huh

[quasi blaze]

Yes

[unkempt python]

im ngl, i feel like ot1 has become keezy ennraged's personal debug help channel. when you fix this, keezy enraged, i will congratulate you. lmk

[quasi blaze]

No problems so far

[lilac badge]

Ty 🫡

[quasi blaze]

The idea of going from Python to Java

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082

[crystal spruce]

java is honestly not that bad

[tardy rain]

You wouldn't do java for better benefits/pay/balance?

Thats why you change jobs, right?

Not to use whatever technology

[young shoal]

could be either tbh

depends what your priorities are obviously

[green pelican]

I saw a pretty decent article arguing it's better than rust

And I hate to say it but I kinda agree

[crystal spruce]

can't comment idk rust

[green pelican]

Lucky

[crystal spruce]

i won't be lucky when it shows up day 24 of AoC roulette and i have to do a hard problem in it

[green pelican]

Better refresh on some lifetime annotations and the borrow checker

[crystal spruce]

by refresh you mean learn

[green pelican]

Yes

If you start 2 months ago you should be fine

[acoustic moss]

holy hell

thats spicy

[uneven pine]

Java is awful, at least give me c#

[unkempt python]

show

[warped sentinel]

it's actually great!
It's not as sexy as other language-of-the-day, but it's the very best platform to get shit done

Same thing than the working truck vs the sport car you take out for the week end for fun

[uneven pine]

"very best platform to get things done"

[wanton moth]

Kotlin >>>>>>>

[uneven pine]

Anything not on the awful, unwieldy JVM

I'll write common lisp over Java

[warped sentinel]

skill issue

[uneven pine]

And I HATE lisp

[uneven pine]

Yes, all Java programmers have it :^)

[warped sentinel]

kotlin is fine as a sub par scala 😉

[warped sentinel]

exactly. Java welcomes all people of all skills!
Like a working truck, it doesn't care if you hit something, it still works great. That's where the platform and language fit together

[wanton moth]

never tried it but it looks alright

[warped sentinel]

Unfortunately, the stewards messed up the whole ecosystem and it doesn't look like it can come back from it

[wanton moth]

does it interop with java like kotlin does?

[warped sentinel]

pretty much

[uneven pine]

"Java" and "works great" in the same sentence

[warped sentinel]

are you 12 years old?

[wanton moth]

good lord, what an improvement

honestly I fw it. I think you can make it shorter in kt though

[warped sentinel]

lol. That reminds me of the memes where they use something completely wrong to sell a competitor

[severe wadi]

APL:

[warped sentinel]

oh yeah the "where did the soda go"

[wanton moth]

lmao is it just overengineered to shit?

[uneven pine]

I have been using Java intermittently for longer than 12 years

Approximately 14, actually

[warped sentinel]

yeah stuff like https://www.reddit.com/r/wheredidthesodago/comments/1ee8y26/while_joe_might_not_quite_grasp_the_idea_of/

[warped sentinel]

nice! congrats!

[rough sapphire]

Sounds like a love hate relationship

[severe wadi]

literally every programmer ever

[uneven pine]

I just use it when it's needed

Which has mostly been for game modding

Or collaborating on other projects

[warped sentinel]

ah so nothing professional

[uneven pine]

Technically the only 'professional" code I've written is JavaScript

[warped sentinel]

contexts and methods would be different

[uneven pine]

Another language I hate

But as someone mentioned above, you go where the money is

[warped sentinel]

yeah, java, javascript, python, etc. have a huge ecosystem of tools and libraries, which is difficult to match in less mainstream ones

[wanton moth]

fun main() {
    val test = "this is a test string test test string avocado"
    println(test.split(" ").groupingBy {it}.eachCount())
}
// output: {this=1, is=1, a=1, test=3, string=2, avocado=1}

[warped sentinel]

wait wrong thing

[green pelican]

It was a recent video on ThePrimeTime channel

Or whatever his stream clip channel is

The link for the article is in the description

[unkempt python]

bet

[warped sentinel]

jshell> import org.eclipse.collections.api.factory.Bags;

jshell> var test = "this is a test string test test string avocado";
   ...> Bags.immutable.of(test.split(" ")).toMapOfItemToCount();
   ...> 
test ==> "this is a test string test test string avocado"
$3 ==> {is=1, test=3, string=2, a=1, avocado=1, this=1}

I am sure I could find another collection from the jdk proper, but I don't have the time right now

[wanton moth]

definitely better than I expected

[warped sentinel]

most people get stuck on their first impression from school where it teaches on java 5 or something

modern java has nothing to do with it

[wanton moth]

Does Java still require a main class?

[green pelican]

Lots of languages do

Iirc it does

I'm not sure if we used the latest Java version in my class though

[acoustic moss]

not anymore

[green pelican]

????

[acoustic moss]

although from what i remember of the jep that feature is mainly for introducing java to beginners not prod code

[green pelican]

Ic

[young shoal]

it doesn't. it's mainly for
quick scripts

[young shoal]

yep. and bad teachers

[acoustic moss]

https://openjdk.org/jeps/445

[wanton moth]

I think Kotlin also has an LLVM frontend

[warped sentinel]

yeah. There is an upcoming change to not require it, but the use case remains more teaching and stuff.

For instance jshell does not require a main class

there is always a main class/entry point for all the languages, even if it is implicit

[unkempt python]

ngl imo python would be prettier with a main class

better than all the `name == main" shit

[young shoal]

wouldn't really make sense

[unkempt python]

ig

[acoustic moss]

tbh i dont really do name == main often

i jsut have

def main()
    ...

main()

[wanton moth]

I know there needs to be an entrypoint, I was more focusing on the necessity of the boilerplate for Java

[rain marsh]

public static main void

[unkempt python]

huh

[rain marsh]

jshell is superior

[unkempt python]

type shi

[acoustic moss]

close enough

[unkempt python]

ive started using java for usaco practice

[acoustic moss]

bold

[willow narwhal]

Why not just write the code directly then instead of using a function?

[unkempt python]

wait that makes so much sense

[graceful basin]

namespace polution

[uneven pine]

It also defeats the purpose of if __name__

Which can give you different behavior depending on if it's executed directly or as a module/package

Dunder name will only be dunder main if you execute it directly (or otherwise have it set, which should basically never be done manually)

Whereas if you just def main and call main, that'll just execute regardless

[hazy kelp]

is this fan optimization good or do i need any adjustments

[green pelican]

This feature is a python W

[uneven pine]

Indeed

[vale hull]

I'd have two in the front and one in the back

[unkempt python]

i remember learning this a while ago

now i just put it in as habit

this seems awfully pointed of zig devs to put in the lang tour

[acoustic moss]

namespace pollution, yeah

[acoustic moss]

im aware, my point is the purpose of if name == main isnt that useful

how often do you write a script that is both an entrypoint and a library

[uneven pine]

well by definition they're not scripts at that point ;) But I've done it more than once, in fact the project I'm currently working on does that

[acoustic moss]

in any case the pattern is way overused

typically people just want an entrypoint

[green pelican]

i did once in 4+ years

so

checkmate

[acoustic moss]

emacs user detected opinion rejected

[uneven pine]

better than a vim user

[spare oriole]

this counts as targeted harassment

[acoustic moss]

clearly not

im maligning an entire group of people not an individual

[fathom musk]

Lololol

[graceful basin]

usually, just to make writing tests possible.

[thick ore]

crazy man writes automated unit tests and sets up CI for a single python file

[rough sapphire]

Lol

[torn pier]

no help this time…
;-;

[tardy rain]

🤨

Just divide one by the other?

[torn pier]

not this. i want to short it f.e. to 9x16 or 10x16 or 3x4 or smth…

rephrased but even worse: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=256px+x+224px+aspect+ratio

[willow narwhal]

!e

from fractions import Fraction
print(Fraction(256,224))

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

8/7

[torn pier]

i want like that:

[willow narwhal]

Is 8:7 not what you want?

[torn pier]

gonna try…

[willow narwhal]

I mean see above. It's the most reduced form of that fraction.

[acoustic moss]

you could calculate which of the standard ratios it is the closest to

[torn pier]

this is what i had, so…

-# (yep, writing game engine…)

[willow narwhal]

!e

print(min([(16,9),(4,3),(3,2), (2,1)], key=lambda x: abs((x[0]/x[1]) - (8/7))))

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

(4, 3)

[torn pier]

*and 224 for second version

gotta see second one

!e

from fractions import Fraction
print(Fraction(256,240))

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

16/15

[torn pier]

!e

from fractions import Fraction
print(Fraction(320,200))

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

8/5

[unkempt python]

rediscovered this song

https://open.spotify.com/track/5FMUPNnaYS6IUH7lQjgpaQ

[lament cairn]

I'm in a discord server that has a cloudflare status channel. damn cloudflare has a lot of issues daily

[torpid hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cerce-gif-8460642713721085724

[thick ore]

maturing is realizing shell scripting is extremely powerful

[strange blade]

I'm so stupid lmao

clicked an ip grabber accidentally

[thick ore]

i know your IP

does it have it has 4 numbers and 4 dots

all 4 numbers range between 0-255

[glossy niche]

real, but bash is also kind of a pain with all it's quirks

actually, is there any tooling for bash that makes It less scheiß

[willow narwhal]

Shellcheck

[strange blade]

yea

oh no chat what am i gonsta do

[glossy niche]

oh I think someone told.me about it beforez lemme see if I can have this as a vs code extension lol

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=timonwong.shellcheck

[thick ore]

also install shell-format extension

(the actual cli is named shfmt)

[glossy niche]

ill try those, ty guys

[thick ore]

omw to rewrite my site in pandoc and bash

[glossy niche]

oh shell check is actually really neat

thanks guys

[thick ore]

voila

[small coral]

finally fixed the weird template problem ```pycon

[[($0, $1, $2) for _ in range(1)] for _ in range(1)] <| 5
[[([...], [...], 5)]]

[lament cairn]

yawnnn

[grave cove]

me at 2pm

[unkempt python]

im writing an essay on the art of coding...i need a hook on how non-programmers would describe programming (it has to be like techincally correct, but failing to grasp the entirety of the beauty of programming) any ideas?

[green pelican]

Willing and continuous pain and suffering

[unkempt python]

ngl

lowk feel like that is the programmer's pov

[green pelican]

Shit ur right

That's my pov

[unkempt python]

same

[glossy niche]

asking ina programming discord sounds like the opposite of what u shud do

[unkempt python]

huh yea

ur right

[green pelican]

Go to the minecraft server or something

[glossy niche]

Also what kinda sample do u want

Minecraft servers will have kids with mild programming experience

other servers maybe like STEM subjects will have people whose only exposure to programming was academics

[green pelican]

Its java though so it doesn't count

[unkempt python]

fr

im thinking "the appeal is notfound"

just a bit of a throwback

[quasi blaze]

I bought the Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless and it is amazing; It has a smooth feel it and the side buttons as well.

[unkempt python]

i have a attack shark r1 ;-;

[tardy rain]

I got a corsair scimitar

Had it for a couple years now, great mouse

The software pack for it, not so much

[unkempt python]

that's a lotta buttons!

[plain vale]

"hard and complicated" is all i really got

[unkempt python]

hmmm

thx

at least u have a plan

[tardy rain]

And yet i need more

I have keybinds up the butt and its still not enough

[grave cove]

mine has 12 side buttons

im just better

[vale raven]

Hi

Please do not slice the dog

[unkempt python]

i prefer cow

[wicked haven]

std::borrow::Cow

[thick ore]

whaddup chat

oh

wtf

it's not 4:16am is it

i'm gonna restart my discord

[harsh tundra]

Depending on your timezone if may be

[thick ore]

it was just a client issue

because it was definitely not 4:16am

[opal onyx]

Morning yall

OH Canada 🇨🇦

https://tenor.com/view/proud-of-you-gif-18326792

[torpid hare]

learning history of programming is worth?

[marble bay]

worth it in what sense?

[torpid hare]

to be more expert at the language

for example you can solve some problem learning only a part

but if know the history you can know more "why"

like in the 80's everybody agrees on something on the parser should be two dots, not three, but two and everyone raise their hands and says ay

[unkempt python]

it was 4:16 am in my timezone

[torpid hare]

not looking at atomic watch

[willow narwhal]

I want to render an (ideally interactive) graph on a website, with nodes being connected by typed edges. Maybe some hundreds of nodes, relatively sparsely connected if that matters. What JS lib would you recommend for this? D3? Sigma.js? Something else? I'd like to avoid javascript tooling like npm, ideally I'll just include some JS via a <link> tag and throw a JSON file at it.

[robust zephyr]

Sounds like a force-directed graph? D3 is pretty good at those

One issue you'll have to deal with immediately using those is that the graph quickly becomes useless with a large number of nodes. So you'll want to implement some kind of collapsing/grouping mechanism

[willow narwhal]

Even if they're very sparsely connected?

[robust zephyr]

Something like this? https://observablehq.com/@d3/disjoint-force-directed-graph/2?collection=@d3/d3-force

It's up to you of course, but I worked with these kinds of graphs for over ten years and the problem was always deriving information from busy graphs. Grouping and drilling into different areas was important for that reason. If you just want something pretty to look at without being able to read the information then I guess you don't need it

[willow narwhal]

That looks okay, but I wouldn't necessarily need it to adhere to some shape. It's a lot of Javascript for my taste, but I guess I'd only have to write that once.

[willow narwhal]

I do want to read the information, but it's not about the bigger picture. (It's for a kind of address book, where I can see the relations between people, mostly).

I also now found Cytoscape, any opinion on that?

[graceful basin]

I know people who've had good success with it

[robust zephyr]

Haven't used that one, but it looks nice. I was fortunate enough to work with a paid library called KeyLines https://cambridge-intelligence.com/keylines/features/ which enables you to make performant graphs with little code. That's probably not appealing for personal projects though

Really nice people too. They came out to meet me at work

[willow narwhal]

Yeah, that looks nice but also like overkill :)

[robust zephyr]

Haha yeah, indeed

[willow narwhal]

Thanks for your advice, I'll think about this some more then

[robust zephyr]

Sure! Let me know what you come up with. Love talking about graphs and visualizations

[quasi blaze]

It blows my mind how some people manage to put 7 days worth of clothing in a carry on bag

[grave cove]

my 2 shirts and 2 shorts:

[unkempt python]

all i need is seven underwear, one shirt, one crewneck, one shorts and one sweats

[tardy rain]

carry on meaning a small suitcase?

[quasi blaze]

Carry on is luggage that you can bring with you to the cabin

[tardy rain]

Sure but that could range from fanny pack to a small suitcase

And you can easily pack for 7 days in a small suitcase

[quasi blaze]

Whatever the weight limit is for that plane is considered "carry-on"

[tardy rain]

in my european mind a small suitcase counts as carry on

[tardy rain]

yea you can fit 7 days worth in that

and still have space

[spare oriole]

absolutely

i do that on a gym duffel bag and do it regurlarly

[thick ore]

😭😭

[naive igloo]

is money the currency of time?

in a way

[spare oriole]

sure

[spare oriole]

time is money

[glossy niche]

based response

[quasi blaze]

I despise interview tests that require me to use a microphone and a webcam

[thick osprey]

What type of test?

[quasi blaze]

I didn't take it so I don't know

But it's for a developer role

[tardy rain]

how are you supposed to talk to people

[vale raven]

The same way we’re talking right now

With a keyboard

[tardy rain]

you would text back and forth while solving puzzles for a technical interview?

[young shoal]

has shen been in a technical interview

[tardy rain]

🤔

[warped sentinel]

you don't do remote interviews?

[warped sentinel]

technical interviews are far broader than solving a puzzle

[quasi blaze]

Yes I did

There’s no live human overseeing anything if I took the interview test

Like my employment summary isn’t good enough

[tardy rain]

You didnt talk to anyone?

[quasi blaze]

No

[thick osprey]

I'm a little confused on why the mic and camera was an issue for a test and not the interview. I'm probably just confused in general.

[quasi blaze]

All of it is an issue

[thick osprey]

All of what? You haven't articulated the situation well enough for me to understand.

[warped sentinel]

I am super confused about the interview process you are describing

[tardy rain]

It doesnt sound like an interview process at all

[quasi blaze]

I”ll send a screenshot then

[tardy rain]

If you dont wanna talk to people keezy youre not gonna go far in this industry

[green pelican]

I've done multiple interviews over teams and stuff

[thick osprey]

Ah, so a monitored test.

[green pelican]

Oh a test

[warped sentinel]

ah yeah, before reaching a human

[young shoal]

I do hate the interviews where you record responses. but I understand why a company would want to do that

[tardy rain]

i dont, theyre being cheap

[young shoal]

you don't understand?

[tardy rain]

i dont understand why they would be cheap, no

[young shoal]

because it saves money

[thick osprey]

You strike me as the type that would understand that.

[tardy rain]

does it save them money?

[young shoal]

probably

[tardy rain]

its annoying > more people avoid them > less talent to pick from > more turnover cause theyre probably shit anyway

i would never apply to a process like that and im just an average guy, imagine how many more would give them a miss too

[young shoal]

you use react?

[young shoal]

maybe. and you do have to review the videos still

you could say you're filtering for more dedicated candidates, but that seems like a weird way to do it

[tardy rain]

Dedicated or desperate?

[robust zephyr]

Programming is almost as much a social job as it is coding, maybe even more. You will have to collaborate and talk to people daily. This never goes away. It's not like the movies where you sit alone in a dark room all day

[timid latch]

"we only want candidates that write us a hand written letter with a 10 page essay on why they want to work here, and it must be delivered by hand to our office at the top of a mountain"

[quasi blaze]

I have used it before. Yes

[young shoal]

what'd you use it for?

[quasi blaze]

To build my resume lol

Just worked on projects to put on my GitHub so employers can check it out back when I was hungry for a tech job

[grave cove]

???

[quasi blaze]

I made projects to build my GitHub and I put my GitHub on my resume

[unkempt python]

just a chill guy

[grave cove]

[robust zephyr]

[glossy niche]

Robin out here running his resume with no build step like dhh

[young shoal]

me when I have matrix builds on my resume and it's absolutely useless

[naive igloo]

i <3 when ε=72%

[glossy niche]

theres this intreseting phenomenon in this server where i sometimes help someone and 5 mins later i find them acting like assholes, it happens over and over

[robust zephyr]

Just don't help assholes

It's shrimple

[tardy rain]

Dont help anyone

Stick to the offtopics

[unkempt python]

i stopped helping people. now i just ask for help

i literally don't remember the last time i responded in a channel other then ots

[vapid sable]

@coral peak

[coral peak]

what WM are you using? i've been trying out tiling window manager like i3/sway recently

[vapid sable]

sway

[coral peak]

nice 😎

[vapid sable]

used i3 on manjaro and loved it

[coral peak]

i appreciate how efficient it can me

[vapid sable]

rn dont have too much time to properly pimp it

so "gray background and no widgets" is all i have rn

prolly will work on it more on holidays

[coral peak]

very cool

minimalist vibes

[vapid sable]

lol

yeah its epic

[unkempt python]

fuck

[vapid sable]

tho now i keep trying to use workspace switch commands on windows machines

[unkempt python]

my eyes are dead

im blind

[coral peak]

it's not even that bad?

[coral peak]

😅

[unkempt python]

i hate it

i can see the appeal though

https://youtube.com/shorts/8-et_gKG8fo

the only editor that should be on that list is notepad++

[vapid sable]

i mean

this is how it typically looks

[unkempt python]

what dark mode looks like?

[vapid sable]

this isnt light mode

this is "i havent set a wallpaper"

[coral peak]

default grey 😎

[coral peak]

no mention to terminal editors like vim is criminal 😔

[unkempt python]

fr

[vapid sable]

vim is overrated

[coral peak]

editor is personal preference anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unkempt python]

fuck that

[surreal otter]

vim is fun, but I don't have the patience to configure it

knowing it is good

[thick osprey]

pro-tip: Don't spend time configuring it. Just write code.

[timid latch]

More pro tip: spend time configuring it to procrastinate real work

[thick osprey]

Found the nix user.

[unkempt python]

even more pro tip: tell everyone that you're a real programmer when, in reality, all you do is configure it

[uneven pine]

More pro tip: use a better editor

[unkempt python]

shut up (respectfully)

[vale raven]

It's good for repeatability
It sure does take a lot of setup though

[uneven pine]

No (derogatory)

[vale raven]

As we well know

[unkempt python]

shut up (not respectful but still respectful)

bans and shit yk

gotta stay respectful

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-we-be-friends-freddie-kreuger-darth-vader-dracula-jason-voorhees-gif-5469319

[thick osprey]

I'll believe the repeatability when the setup ends. So far, it hasn't.

[vale raven]

I can create and delete Codespaces at will
I can deploy my containers at will

My Ansible has become super stable
Still need some IaC for my cloud resources though

[timid latch]

I literally murdered my wpm because I completely reconfigured my keyboard layout

[thick osprey]

I never regained my top-end wpm after switching to the kinesis keyboards I have now. I don't think it's a keyboard thing. I think I actually just injured myself prior.

[vale raven]

[timid latch]

I am still salty about having a higher wpm on my crappy laptop keyboard than my expensive split one

[young shoal]

how'd you reconfigure?

[timid latch]

Might have thrown away half the keyboard and put all the letters in a 3x3 section

[young shoal]

hmmm. interesting

[timid latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704715550303191050/1317111676553662556/hTcBlro.mp4?ex=6762c556&is=676173d6&hm=4a7137e0cad110dd52add44d12f00244d402a75413bcc4f664527c6edf4c955d&

(I have small hands is my justification... And I want to eat candies while writing)

[unkempt python]

ping me when you get back to peak

[timid latch]

I mean my main goal is for it to be more comfortable to type, not to be fast

Normal qwerty (on this keyboard size) had me moving my wrists too much

[unkempt python]

yea that makes sense

[grave cove]

bro think he in a movie

[glossy niche]

they don't seem like assholes at the start then I turn around and they are being massive dipshits

like one time this guy dm'd me twice for help and I did help him and then a week later I find him calling someone a terrorist because of their ethnicity

and it's happened several times since, but I still feel like I should help strangers regardless

[spare oriole]

lmfao

[thick ore]

my new addiction https://kartoffels.pwy.io/

my bot almost got 1st place in arena then died

[fringe rain]

lmao

i get to regularly use windows machines in my lab computers

[small coral]

uwu https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/longobject.c#L582-L583

[royal lake]

Objects/longobject.c lines 582 to 583

/* XXX: could be cute and give a different
   message for overflow == -1 */```

[jovial verge]

Guys I wanna hack FBI. How long will it take to learn that level of skills ?

[vale raven]

About 17.3 days

[fathom musk]

Actually 18.3 since we don't count Christmas

[uneven pine]

18.3 days and then 25 years in prison

[glossy niche]

tbh it's not even a lmfao situation cuz I happen to be the same ethnicity as that guy

people like this are massive piles of shit

[glossy niche]

Kartoffeln means potatoes in German 🤓

[unkempt python]

i haven't touched html/js/css in a very long time

now i need to do a bunch of animations

i think im screwed

[robust zephyr]

You can do pretty impressive animations in pure CSS these days

[unkempt python]

im learning about that rn

cool shit

[rough sapphire]

KARTOFFELPUFFER + APFELMUS

[rough sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMzaOp2NQLI

[lament cairn]

behind you

[unkempt python]

ahhh

[plush sun]

They're behind me, aren't they

[cloud oxide]

I like the Mario one

Wahooo here we gooo

[naive igloo]

gives me gladiobots vibes

[thick ore]

except you get to write the firmware in Rust!!

did you hear that

RUST!!!!!

[naive igloo]

kul.

tho i am on phone rn so cant really get it to work

[hidden raptor]

@rough sapphire what is your problem?

[torn pier]

1993 browser had more features than current firefox… (yep, normal firefox or chrome without addons can't ftp or gopher/gemini as they just deleted the ftp things and never bothered to support anything else than http…)

that's how humanity is really going back…

proof for no ftp in firefox: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/07/20/stopping-ftp-support-in-firefox-90/

and proof for no ftp in chrome: https://developer.chrome.com/blog/deps-rems-95/

[carmine apex]

do you have the android calculator app pinned on a desktop?

[torn pier]

no, it's just theme, it's normal calculator from kde :-)

[carmine apex]

huh. same icon choice

[torn pier]

material icons are a little better and yet more androidish but after longer time too boring so went with this and it's okayish :-)

[graceful basin]

Yea, browsers are moving away from insecure protocols

[green pelican]

I was gonna say removing FTP isn't a lost feature 💀

That's like saying routers are removing certain features for closing port 31337 by default

[graceful basin]

I really don't feel like FTP is a protocol I struggle to find a client for

windows explorer of all things is an FTP client

[winter vector]

its not needed? why would you need ftp on a browser when its a BROWSER

you have mozzila and other ftp clients fuck it even the ftp package on linux if you want ftp support

thats like saying how its backwards to now be able to develop games like unity can but using scratch.

thats like asking for raytracing on a game from the 1990's

its stupid

I wonder if this dude knows the difference between ftp and sftp 🤔

almost like the s in sftp stands for SECURE

[solemn tulip]

ssh file transfer protocol?

[winter vector]

ssh, ftp and sftp are different

[solemn tulip]

don't confuse sftp and ftps 🙃

[winter vector]

ftp and sftp are literally the same just ones secure???

what are you on about???

[solemn tulip]

ftps is ftp over ssl

sftp is ftp over ssh

[winter vector]

right but were not talking about ftps

were just talking about ftp/sftp

idk where you got ftps from

[solemn tulip]

actually, maybe it's even thornier

FTPS should not be confused with the SSH File Transfer Protocol (SFTP), a secure file transfer subsystem for the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol with which it is not compatible. It is also different from FTP over SSH, which is the practice of tunneling FTP through an SSH connection.

[winter vector]

I never mentioned once ftps

I have no clue why youre bringing it up

[solemn tulip]

it's mostly just a comment on this, there are so many odd secure file transfer protocols

[winter vector]

right

but the point i was making

is that theyre complaining that there is no ftp support in browsers

when its insecure

let alone there being no need

and theres more secure protocols out there

like sftp

that can be used instead

especially with their respective clients

 ┌─╼[0xC7R@LINUX]-[~] 
 └────╼ ❯❯❯ sftp                                                
[proxychains] DLL init: proxychains-ng 4.17
usage: sftp [-46AaCfNpqrv] [-B buffer_size] [-b batchfile] [-c cipher]
          [-D sftp_server_command] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file]
          [-J destination] [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port]
          [-R num_requests] [-S program] [-s subsystem | sftp_server]
          [-X sftp_option] destination

like this

ignore the proxychains

[drowsy rose]

wait chat so type x[num] in C is equivalent to

type *x = malloc(sizeof(type) * num);``` right

[spare oriole]

bruh

[drowsy rose]

lmao

[small coral]

alloca() instead of malloc(), but yes

but alloca() is dangerous, don't do it

[spare oriole]

....

i did reload it, it persisted.

done, done and done.

none of that fixed it though, dw, i got it figured out.

[green pelican]

Have you considered not being a skill issue?

[spare oriole]

PR denied

[onyx mist]

Does anyone know how to select a trusted UEFI file for executing from the MSI bios?

Getting a shim_lock protocol not found error

Nevermind I just disabled secure boot

[rough sapphire]

The only reason you should have secure boot on is if you are vulnerable to being a target of interest

journalist? corporate PC? work in a position where somebody might try to hack you, or break into your home while you're away and mess with your PC? Probably best to keep it on. Otherwise unnecessary

https://tenor.com/view/jordy-breakfast-tv-bt-toronto-bt-toronto-gif-6760867982299542608

[green pelican]

at that point just use tails

[spare oriole]

Doesn’t windows force it on by default on W11 nowadays?

[green pelican]

why the hell does windows even touch that shit

get out of my boot sector MS

[rough sapphire]

Yes, also thanks to their TPM requirements as well
Meaning guys like me who work tech support can no longer access your HDDs if something breaks and you can't boot into Windows, meaning loads more e-waste because we can't recover your data! (Drive encryption) Yay!

TLDR; BSoD? PC won't boot into Windows? You're screwed, buy another computer

Thanks, M$

[green pelican]

It's depressing most people are forced into this shit

[soft violet]

Counterpoint: people who just want to take over as many computers as possible, rendering your level of importance irrelevant.

[rough sapphire]

I love being part of a Chinese botnet /s

[soft violet]

I think it's still important to wargame this stuff out to keep developing secure systems, but wouldn't it be something to eliminate blackhatism?

Not in a send the killdrones out on everyone who does it kind of thing.

But a friendly neighbourhood where everyone is nice to each other kind of way.

Where you can leave your doors unlocked, theoretically.

[tardy rain]

Send the robot dog after them

With the machine gun attachment

[soft violet]

I specifically requested the opposite of this.

[tardy rain]

Well i specifically requested exactly this

With live video feed

[lapis trench]

@warm plume

[warm plume]

Did you make an interpeter

[lapis trench]

yes

[warm plume]

Also why alot of people hate this idea

[shy wharf]

hi

[warm plume]

Can I download it

[lapis trench]

idk they think its spam

[lapis trench]

let me send the program

[shy wharf]

what if i went on topic here?

[harsh tundra]

Link the repo, never try to attach the file

[lapis trench]

import re
import string
import os

os.system("cls")
PATH = r"C:\Users\mqrsh\OneDrive\Desktop\base-folder\EsolangS\Moolang\code.txt"
text = open(PATH,"r").readlines()
def read(lines):
    code = ""
    for index,line in enumerate(lines):
        line = str(line)
        x = re.search(r"moo\*(.*)",line)
        if not x:
            letters = string.ascii_letters + string.punctuation + " " + string.digits
            code += letters[line.count("o")]
        else:

            letters = string.ascii_letters + string.punctuation + " " + string.digits
            if x.group(1) == "help":
                for index,letter in enumerate(letters):
                    print(index,letter)
                    

            elif x.group(1) == "new":
                code += "\n"
            elif x.group(1) == "indent":
                code += "  "
    exec(code)

def make_code(code:str):
    generated = ""
    for line in code.splitlines():
        line = line.replace("   ","★")
        letters = string.ascii_letters + string.punctuation + ' ' + string.digits
        for letter in line:
            if not letter in ["★"]:
                if letter in letters:
                    generated += f"m{"o"*letters.index(letter)}"
            else:
                if letter == "★":
                    generated += f"moo*indent"
            generated += "\n"
        generated += "moo*new" + "\n"
    return generated
p = "f"
cod = r"""
import time
print("Hi!")
time.sleep(1)
print("Im a cow..")
time.sleep(2)
print("Its time to say....")
time.sleep(3)
print("MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!")
"""
if p == "t":
    print(make_code(cod))
read(text)


``` edit the `PATH` to the text file you want to use to write your program

[harsh tundra]

Hardcoded path to a file? Won't work on another computer

[lapis trench]

yeah u need to edit it i said it

[warm plume]

Ty

[lapis trench]

ok so here is how it works

you take the amount of o's in each line

and index it to the abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!"#$%&'()*+,-./:;<=>?@[\]^_`

you can see the indexes with moo*help

[warm plume]

Error

[lapis trench]

let me see te error

[lapis trench]

edit the path to your path to write to code

like add a text file

and set the path to that text file's path

[warm plume]

alr

so i set this to the files path?

like how do i do it in pycharm

actullay i will do it in vs instead

[lapis trench]

ok

you have vsc and pycharm? wow

i just got vsc

[warm plume]

no their is a diffrence between vs and vsc

vs is more enterprise

[lapis trench]

the purple one?

[warm plume]

yes

[lapis trench]

oh so you have vs vsc and pycharm

[warm plume]

it can hendel longer code

[warm plume]

yea

[spare oriole]

not really

[spare oriole]

not really.

both vsc and pycharm can handle the same amount of code

[warm plume]

i only have it for unity and ue5 i found it is good for other purposes also

[spare oriole]

VSC is multi purpose, so makes sense

[lapis trench]

lets see if i can write moolang in moolang

how do you make the terminal handle more letters?

[spare oriole]

you maximize it

[lapis trench]

how?

i mean when i print something really large it goes away

[spare oriole]

then dont print something really large

terminals only have so much space to display

[lapis trench]

that doesn't solve the problem

[spare oriole]

you can calculate the available space and make only certain segments fit the available space and if it doesnt fit, print the rest of the contents on the next line and so on

[willow narwhal]

@harsh tundra You don't happen to work for NASA, do you?

[lapis trench]

i just copied it

1,222 lines for a 104 lined program.

[harsh tundra]

Lolol.
Nope, I don't and my name is not Fox... Although when I was regularly wearing cat-ear-hoodie, I met a person with same first name as me who had surname Kot (cat), so similar case, lol

[spare oriole]

nicky a fed, confirmed

[harsh tundra]

I have some people added on LinkedIn, they know my legal name... If they remember it is me, that is.
Oh, wait, it doesn't have my updated legal name since I got married last year and changed it...

But before the change, i knew 3 other people with my exact same legal name.

Or at least firstname+surname combo, idk if they have middle names.

[warm plume]

how to make anything written in the b variable be like

[warm plume]

going to be the slowest prog lang

[ashen ridge]

@spare oriole

[spare oriole]

hi

[ashen ridge]

Here have another ping bc why not @spare oriole

[spare oriole]

hi

[harsh tundra]

@ashen ridge because you love pings, here's a ping and a cat

[ashen ridge]

uwu

cat

[harsh tundra]

Also, Ubuntu grub has memtest as a choice, so I'm not even checking the drive yet and copying my files, I'm checking ram because I can XD

Hm, temp rose to 52°C already. I forgot I was supposed to clean the laptop and change the thermal paste

[spare oriole]

@ashen ridge

[harsh tundra]

@spare oriole

[harsh tundra]

Ah shit. It seems the disk might be kaput.

mount can't read superblock on /dev/sda4
Checked online and it says it's probably hardware problem.
Doing ddrescue to copy contents over and see what I can get from it

[spare oriole]

@harsh tundra

[spare oriole]

[harsh tundra]

It's Windows' and @ashen ridge 's faults. Windows froze up when installing a game she recommended! Still counting on Windows' breaking with updates (because they were installing when I turned on computer before that), not that Steam installing on separate drive (HDD) broke my main disk (Windows is on SSD)

[ashen ridge]

oh man

[harsh tundra]

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/680299/mount-cant-read-superblock-on-dev-sda5
Doing what the first answer here suggests, that's why I'm running ddrescue

[spare oriole]

good, always blame @ashen ridge

[ashen ridge]

nah, blame @spare oriole first

[spare oriole]

you were blamed first, so, ha

[ashen ridge]

nuh uh

[harsh tundra]

All of this because of hex-minesweeper automation game...

[spare oriole]

and it's all @ashen ridge fault!

also yours for rebooting mid install

[torn pier]

it's you both fault then…

[harsh tundra]

29% rescued, 1 read error, no bad areas nor bad sectors

[harsh tundra]

The system literally froze, even task manager was frozen... And it should've been installing on my HDD anyways, so why would SSD fail?

Explorer.exe or dwm.exe (or both) froze as well, task manager was not responding (and after i managed to close it, I couldn't open it again), discord showed as not responding, steam showed as not responding... What was I supposed to do?

[lament cairn]

Unlucky

[harsh tundra]

Kitties

[ashen ridge]

nah it's your fault

@spare oriole we blame hacknorris

[torn pier]

🤣

[spare oriole]

@ashen ridge

[ashen ridge]

@torn pier

[harsh tundra]

I love how no one blames me when it's my computer XD

[torn pier]

🤣

[spare oriole]

wdym, i just blamed you a few messages above

[harsh tundra]

But that's one vs how Windows/you/Paraselene/now also hacknorris a lot XD

[spare oriole]

@ashen ridge & @torn pier blame him

[lament cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/0025Muffin/status/1870249471986278898.mp4
tap...tap...tap...

[quasi blaze]

Make you sure you guys take your vacations (meaning actually travel somewhere). It’s totally worth it and well needed after working so hard at your job

[spare oriole]

some people dont have a lot of vacation days, so they prefer to stack it and use it all at once
but i get unlimited vacation i think

[tardy rain]

Good advice keezy

You could also take your holidays and unwind at home

But yea travelling is the goal

[thick osprey]

Me taking my second vacation while staying at home, enjoying a book, and sipping on mulled cider:

[vale raven]

Me wondering if I even have enough PTO days left to cover the unpaid days we're not working between Christmas and New Years: 😭

... thanks Lance

Read the room man

[spare oriole]

didn't you implement this?

[vale raven]

No
I've just PRed updates that users have requested

[grave cove]

we need an NLP model at this point

[spare oriole]

can i can i can i can i can i can i can i can i can i can i

[grave cove]

no

[spare oriole]

why not

[lament cairn]

because devoops will pay for it

[tardy rain]

unpaid?

is that even legal

[vale raven]

I will not

[vale raven]

It’s America

It honestly might be illegal if I do get paid

[tardy rain]

Can your workplace close down for holidays and not pay you for them?

[vale raven]

Yes?

Why would they be required to pay me for when I'm not working?

This is the entirety of the paid holidays for the year

which is very sad, yes

[timid latch]

Because people need money to not die?

[thick osprey]

Private sector jobs are not required by any legal measure in the United States to provide any paid holidays.

[tardy rain]

the days between xmas and new years arent holidays

the company is choosing to shut down

is this in your contract?

[vale raven]

I'd have to check

[tardy rain]

in my uk contract its stated when the company will close for holidays, beyond the required bank holidays, and it's taken out of the PTO allowance automatically

so if you start with 20 days pto, youre down to 15 when you start automatically
different kind of deception but 🤷‍♀️

cant beat em all

[spare oriole]

old man mar, bsc, msc, JD

[thick osprey]

From my experience working with global teams.

Oddly accurate as I'm on-call this week which means, for the Christmas holiday, any one of three thousand people can page me and I'm required to answer. xD

[tardy rain]

contact your local congressman?

or be like the french and riot

[thick osprey]

Only if Joe is trying to get a coffee.

[uneven pine]

We just need to evict every single politician and start over

[tardy rain]

Evict their heads from their bodies?

Im a french politics enthusiast

[gusty egret]

hey guys, looking for some help with CSS. should be simple. can someone help me?

[unkempt python]

makes sense

[gusty egret]

so uhm i want to make my chat go from the bottom to when the header starts. [stop when the header starts]. this is my header: .header {
position: fixed;
top: 0;
left: 0;
right: 0;
height: 90px;
display: flex;
align-items: center;
background: #131520;
padding: 15px 30px;
border-bottom: 3px solid #191d35;
z-index: 6;
box-shadow: 0 2px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3);
} and this is my chat: .chat {
display: flex;
flex-direction: column;
height: 100%;
width: 24rem;
min-width: 18rem;
gap: 0.5rem;
background: #131520;
padding: 15px 30px;
border-left: 3px solid #191d35;
box-shadow: 0 2px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3);
position: fixed;
bottom: -1;
right: 0;
overflow-y: auto;
transition: all 0.3s ease;
z-index: 5;
}
please also for all devices

[robust zephyr]

Stop spamming this in every channel

[quasi blaze]

Travelling is such a great experience; Being in a completely different environment from your hometown makes things adventurous. The people are different, the skyscrapers are different, the weather, the food and etc.

[low chasm]

oh yeah?

name every French politician

[low chasm]

traveling moment

[thick osprey]

Are you a traveler or are you a tourist?

((serious points if anyone actually knows this reference))

[warped sentinel]

Wisdom comes from experience. Experience is often a result of lack of wisdom

[thick osprey]

Is that a Pratchett'ism?

[humble elk]

whew

I just had a conversation with my kid that disturbs me.

Guess in the realm of the youth today, if you make a script that makes you rich, unless you give it all away, you're the epitome o evil

[solid elbow]

How rich?

I see a pretty massive moral distinction between a person possessing, say, 5 million dollars vs 5 billion dollars

Acquiring enough money to retire on it? Good for you. Acquiring enough money that every single person in a small town could retire on it? You've got a moral obligation to use all that extra money to help people.

This is fairly akin to feeling that price gouging is unethical

[harsh tundra]

Yep. If you take away 99.9% of what a billionaire owns, they'll still be a millionaire.

Existence of billionaires shows there's something wrong - nobody earns that much on their own.
Even if you earned $1k a day for just existing and spend nothing ( = or just work as always and save $30k a month, just don't buy a soy latte and avocado toast and you can do it!/s), you wouldn't earn a billion in 100 years. Not even 10k a day (=saving 300k a month)!
Billionaires got there because of exploitation (e.g. amazon and in early days literally stealing ideas of other people listing on their marketplace... and currently underpaid warehouse workers) or inherited it from family that did such (e.g. Musk).
But as I said at the beginning, staying a billionaire is another problem - you literally could give away 99% of your money and be "just" a millionaire! What stops them?

[harsh tundra]

I think you're set on misunderstanding what your kiddo tells you... And I think you raised them right, with compassion.

[uneven pine]

Equal redistribution of wealth when

[lament cairn]

So set that I assume they deleted their messages. Huh.

[harsh tundra]

It isn't deleted. Maybe you're blocked?

Or rather you blocked them

Then you don't see openly the original message so the reply links are meesed up

Just scroll above godlygeek and see

[lament cairn]

Oh, I saw the weird split messages and thought a message was deleted between the other messages

[tardy rain]

The way money accumulates is the problem, not the amount

Giant corpo exploiting people overseas to increase their profit margins bad

If i stumbled into a billion dollars tomorrow without hurting anyone why would i be morally obligated to help anyone

[keen trellis]

what elon musk means when he said the he not trust the openai?

[fringe rain]

that he left and they're making money without him

actually i have no idea, i just thought that up

[keen trellis]

I don't see much information about elon musk so I don't have a clear idea if is information os disinformation

[harsh tundra]

Wasn't he "cautious" about open ai etc from the beginning, but then launched his own ai that was said to be better (but that failed some basic legal/copyright test prompts, lol)? So just looks like he wanted his fans to distrust his competition. Nothing new

[keen trellis]

thanks

[keen trellis]

he used twitter once to say that Tesla was building 500 hundred new cars

that alters the market

and was a lie

he was ceo at Tesla at the time and already famous if he posts something will affect the market actions

I don't believe he bought twitter for freedom of speech

[harsh tundra]

His "freedom of speech" means "I can talk whatever I want, people I like can be as bigoted as they can", then people started blocking him, so he made twitter devs make his account un-blockable and his posts show up at the top... And he banned people from using "cisgender" because him and his bigoted friends said it's a slur (meanwhile him and his bigoted friends actually use real slurs without any action). Etc. Right-wing "freedom of speech" means "I can be bigoted", but doesn't apply to anyone who speaks against the bigotry...

[tardy rain]

Theres no freedom of speech when it comes to private platforms

When are people going to understand that

Freedom of speech is protection from the government

[humble elk]

Or they feel that freedom of speech means there shouldn't be any consequences for said speech. I used to own the trademark "DARE TO HAVE AN OPINION™" at BlahBlah.com. It was bait for bad opinions.

[glossy niche]

oh is this Elon musk o'clock?

which nazi has he retweeted this time?

[tardy rain]

Freedom of speech means exactly that there shouldn't be consequences (jail time) for your speech

[harsh tundra]

Then why do they ban the opposite of them? If someone tries to play "freedom of speech" card like Musk does, then accept all speech, even the voices critical of you

[glossy niche]

is guaranteeing safety for people who speak up go under free speech or is that smn else?

cuz this definition leaves room for things like stochastic terr0rism to quell journalism by smearing people

[tardy rain]

Im not sure what you mean, freedom of speech as americans have it means the government cant throw you in jail for saying things they dont like

It doesnt apply to jack dorsey's little slice of the internet

You have no freedom of speech on twitter, you follow the rules of the platform

Out in the public square you can go say whatever the fuck you like and your speech would be protected

(some exceptions apply) but its not as restrictive as private platforms

[humble elk]

not exactly. There are limits like terroristic threatening, inciting mobs, shouting fire in a movie theater etc.

[tardy rain]

And you cant exactly sue twitter for infringing on your right to free speech

(you dont have that right on there)

Its like visiting someones house, talking shit, then insisting you have the right to and they shouldnt kick you out of their house

🤷‍♀️

ofc there have been some shenanigans with deciding the president cant block people on twitter and whatnot but i dont agree with that

[glossy niche]

anyways, on the topic of Elon musk, he's covering up yet another far right terror attack and blaming it on immigrants despite the fact that the attacker was a fan of Elon musk

[tardy rain]

New attack?

[glossy niche]

the Germany one

he deleted the twitter profile of the attacker

[tardy rain]

Child killed 😔

[graceful snow]

@spare oriole You seem to love Python as you primarily use Python for all your projects. Does that have a specific reason? 😄

[spare oriole]

the language is easy to use yet very powerful, you can do the same thing that python can do in any other language, except more easily.

[graceful snow]

Do you know any other programming languages? 🤔

[spare oriole]

golang, C, some rust, some JS / TS

[graceful snow]

When did you start with your startup? How is it going? Any interested investors yet?

[spare oriole]

When did you start with your startup?
it's not mine, i'm employed by the company, it's been around for about a year and a half or so

i've been part of the company for about 4 months

How is it going?
pretty good, we've sucessfully opened PRs against some pretty popular repos and have gotten them accepted
Any interested investors yet?
yes.

[graceful snow]

Nice to hear that. Keep it up! 💯

[spare oriole]

🔥

[green pelican]

[spare oriole]

[green pelican]

[spare oriole]

🤥

[green pelican]

[quasi blaze]

@tardy rain some good news. I will be getting a raise next year but my Junior title will still remain

[tardy rain]

that is good news

big raise?

big raise meaning not baby inflation adjustment bump

[solid elbow]

Big raises can definitely happen, but aren't par for the course

A big raise mostly happens if you're being underpaid, and you convince the company that you know it

[tardy rain]

last year i got 6% even though i asked for 12

this year im not even gonna bother

gonna use aoc to prep for bigger things

[quasi blaze]

$2.50 CAD raise

[spare oriole]

per hour?

[young shoal]

is that big

[quasi blaze]

Yes

[spare oriole]

1.74 USD

that's like an extra ~4k per year

imma go with not really, but it helps

[tardy rain]

Ita 4.5k CAD a year, its something

[spare oriole]

which is why i said it helps 😛

[quasi blaze]

Title remains the same though. One Product Manager I was speaking with on Discord argued that if I were to look for a job with the job title “Software Developer” it will be hard because the employer will question why my company didn’t promote me after a year and half and why I am still a Junior.

[spare oriole]

what title did you expect at your current company after junior?

[quasi blaze]

Just the removal of the word “Junior” in my full title

[spare oriole]

so from "Junior Software Engineer" to "Software Engineer"?

[quasi blaze]

All I am saying is to take off the “Junior” in my title name

No further explanation

[solid elbow]

Does your company have any software engineers who are more senior than you? I thought you were the only software engineer, has that changed?

[quasi blaze]

I still am the only developer

[spare oriole]

i just wanted clarification.

i'm not sure that slight change would matter much since this is your first FT job right?

your work history would give you away as a junior

well, depends.

[solid elbow]

Then "junior software developer" does seem like a terribly misleading title. If you're the only software developer, you're the most senior software developer. Calling the most senior software developer "junior" is strange.

[spare oriole]

if he's the only Soft dev, then they might not have any experience re: titles

i wonder if there were previous devs at his company

[solid elbow]

Sure, quite possibly, but putting "junior" in it still doesn't make sense

[spare oriole]

but still, HR depts are supposed to know how to scale titles

[solid elbow]

The title doesn't even need to scale

They can call everyone "software developer", that's fine

The weird thing is just calling the most senior thingdoer a "Junior Thingdoer"

[spare oriole]

fair

[solid elbow]

maybe they're planning to hire someone else, and have that new person mentor you, and that's why they still insist on calling you a "junior"? That's the only thing I can think of, other than deliberately giving you a misleading title

You probably don't have much leverage, but it is worth communicating to your management that being called a "junior software developer" when you are in fact the most senior software developer at the company makes you feel undervalued

[spare oriole]

i feel they're gonna hit back with "we already have you a raise, now you want a different title"

nothing to lose from asking tho

[tardy rain]

would anyone care if you called yourself a "software engineer"on linkedin or your cv

[quasi blaze]

I asked them about if my title will remain. They responded with “This is a raise only as stated in the document. All other terms and conditions (including title) remain the same”

[spare oriole]

naw.

but tons of people do put in the title reflected on their HR profile, i do that

[solid elbow]

Counterpoint: the title costs them nothing, and framing the discussion around how having a title that doesn't reflect the responsibility of the role makes you feel gives them some incentive for changing it to appease you

[tardy rain]

the title does cost them tho, not in "real" value but in control

[quasi blaze]

My employment contract outlines that I am titled as “Junior (____ ____)” I would be falsifying information that’s not written in my employment contract

[tardy rain]

who's going to look at your contract though?

thats between you and your employer

[spare oriole]

and i feel like going from "junior software engineer" to "senior software engineer" would imply a significant pay increase, and a higher expected salary at a different company when applying for a job

[quasi blaze]

If they see my linkedin employment summary, that might cause issues over naming myself a title that they did not give me

[tardy rain]

not junior -> senior, but dropping the junior part is harmless imho

[spare oriole]

agreed

i find it weird that you're going to great lengths to hide the rest of your title, this feels like you're purposedly hiding something that might explain your dilemma

[solid elbow]

I wouldn't ask for "senior", just for removing the misleading "junior". But yeah, probably not much leverage unless it's important enough to you that you'd quit over it

[tardy rain]

potential employers wont know and current employers wont care unless theyre really petty in which case you should get the fuck out as fast as you can

[spare oriole]

i think he's already looking for another job

[tardy rain]

good, t'is the season

AoC is good interview practice too keezy

give it a go

[spare oriole]

elaborate? end of year is a good time to look for a new job?

[tardy rain]

thats what the winter feels like to me

but maybe i just get burnout around the holidays

[spare oriole]

hmm, how come? do you work more around the holidays?

[solid elbow]

Ah. If the employer knows that, it gives them a very strong motivation to not change the title.

[spare oriole]

at work it feels like we've mainly slowed down

but could be a startup thing, idk

[tardy rain]

not really, the workload kind of slows down, might be seasonal depression
im not sure

my industry slows down around the holidays too

[spare oriole]

(so, not a startup thing, gotcha)

[tardy rain]

it might also be AoC having an effect

brushing up on DSA and stuff reminds me of the job hunt

[quasi blaze]

I had an old classmate of mine get a job earning the title “Software Developer”. They were never a Junior Developer. They just did an internship while they were in college

[tardy rain]

i was never a "junior" in name either

[spare oriole]

i don't see anything wrong with that

my current title is a bit misleading imo since it's a startup

[tardy rain]

my startup experience was "they dont know what the fuck theyre doing with me"

[spare oriole]

i'm a "Founding Software Engineer" and it gives me imposter syndome vibes

[quasi blaze]

It’s just that they bypassed the Junior title and I didn’t

[spare oriole]

different company, understandable.

what's the saying?

comparison is the thief of joy

[solid elbow]

might be seasonal depression
I've got an American friend living as an expat in London. When I visited last month, he told me to bring vitamin D supplements with me, heh

Winter in the UK is no joke

[spare oriole]

"expat", that word again

[tardy rain]

hah, vitamin d is a requirement

too bad mine are little white tasteless pills

i'd prefer if they were gummies