ot1-perplexing-regexing

[glossy niche]

brother u ask too many questions, try not to fall into the pits of seeking perfection or not trying to solve anything yourself

not telling you not to ask but like, jus my thoughts

i would argue the best solution here is neither:

use zod

https://zod.dev/ or a similiar library, its like pydantic for JS

[radiant cosmos]

the classic way is to use cookies. but ofcourse, since google started using localStorage every1 jumped on that bandwagon. do it whichever way it doesn't make that much of a difference. but be aware of the pros & cons of both: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17000835/token-authentication-vs-cookies
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/180357/store-auth-token-in-cookie-or-header

[radiant cosmos]

i think the americanos are out in rallies today. i can hear them shouting trump! trump! trump! /s

[severe laurel]

Erm?

[glossy niche]

Americano is the lamest coffee, it's literally just watered down espresso

[radiant cosmos]

i've never seen anyone drink an americano. maybe it's for those who prefer quantity over quality.

watering down the espresso means they can walk around holding a cup all day just sipping all day long

[glossy niche]

true, it be nice for winter, I only ever got it to have something warm to hold lol

[gritty zinc]

ooh, nice review. awake and always-on-top are the only ones I've ever used, and why I have powertoys on my windows system.
(since when does it have this many, anyway?.. a few years ago there was, like, 5)

[final kelp]

Heyo

[solemn tulip]

• workspaces: nobody uses these
  because the stuff on windows is crap 😔

workspaces are super useful when actually done well

[vale raven]

Have you guys ever been eating pizza and thought ”You know what this needs? Waffles!”?

[spare oriole]

tf? no

[vale raven]

Well now you don’t have to wonder

[solemn tulip]

that pizza looks kinda sad

[vale raven]

You need more joy in your life

[solemn tulip]

no color

no joy

[spare oriole]

says the one with the sad pizza

[spare oriole]

this looks like papadias

[vale raven]

It’s CiCis, an American pizza buffet
All mass produced crap
Nothing nice to be found here

But it is tons of pizza
And I love pizza

[vale raven]

That’s an insult to Papadias

Finally got enough space to take a picture of the sign

[spare oriole]

find a local costco and eat their pizzas

[vale raven]

why

[spare oriole]

they're pretty good

[vale raven]

My grandparents use to take me to Sams Club to get our excersize
We would get hotdogs, sit down and eat, and then walk around the aisles for about an hour
Maybe buy one thing

[lament cairn]

meow

uhm

does writing my own ldap/scim client count as rolling my own auth

thinking of using an idp for a project instead of having to deal with auth sorta-kinda-by myself (through a very shitty library, fastapi-users)
i want to reduce how many packages i use for the project overall but i also want to mess as little as possible with auth stuff

[radiant cosmos]

enough settings up config files. i'm going to make myself a PBJ before i start on client side code now

does python http module work with npm scripts? 🤔

[spare oriole]

like to download them? i dont see why not

[zealous comet]

Not yet but it sounds tasty

But I do like experimenting with food and I can say that kiwi, strawberry, and apple aren't great on pizza

[grave cove]

shit pizza

[vale raven]

Shit opinion

[grave cove]

just get an XL pizza from dominoes

lasts me 2 days

[vale raven]

It would last my party of 8 about 3 seconds

[zealous comet]

That's the worst pizza you can get

[grave cove]

then get like 4

[grave cove]

nah its gas bro

[zealous comet]

It's better to pull that expired pizza out of the fridge toss in in a pan while frozen and eat it then anything from dominos

[grave cove]

🗿

i think your dominoes just has a skill issue cause mine is fire

[spare oriole]

lmao

[zealous comet]

If you don't have a pan or stove make a small fire and get some rusty metal or something that won't explode to put the pizza on and it'll be better than any dominos

[spare oriole]

the quality of dominos pizza depends wildy on the dominos location, i agree

[zealous comet]

They are all shit

[grave cove]

invalid option tbh

[zealous comet]

The best pizza is always self made with a real pizza oven

[spare oriole]

you have a real pizza oven at home?

[zealous comet]

No but I do where I volunteer and it's only a few min walking

A regular oven is also fine but not as good

[zealous comet]

Last time I had pizza there the kids even made my pizza for me other than the oven part and it was great

[robust zephyr]

Papa John's has some 🔥 spicy garlic butter

[zealous comet]

I don't think that we've them here in the Netherlands

[robust zephyr]

Unlucky

They make some decent pizza

[spare oriole]

debatable

their only decent thing is their papadia

[robust zephyr]

What's papadia?

[spare oriole]

https://www.papajohns.com.co/papadias

[robust zephyr]

Oh it's like a flat bread sandwich

Interesitng

[spare oriole]

but with pizza ingredients, yeah

[robust zephyr]

Yum

[vale raven]

no solo es un tipo de sándwich, es una fiesta que debes probar

That sounds so weird

It’s not just a type of sandwich, it’s a party that you have to try

[brittle void]

so their sandwich has nothing special to say

[vale raven]

I feel like it would sound so much better if you just removed the “type of”

[spare oriole]

nah

[solemn tulip]

party is also an odd word to pick

did someone mistranslate feast?

[robust zephyr]

It's not uncommon to use party as a metaphor for an interesting taste even in English

[brittle void]

@thick ore do u have any good microsoft product to code in ur phone?

[thick ore]

vscode

[brittle void]

how is it in ur phone?
i tried installing it
but my phone is not even installing it

[thick ore]

i don't code on my phone man

but i know vscode works on there

[brittle void]

how do u know that it works in phone?
source?

[thick ore]

i think i installed vscode.dev as a pwa

[brittle void]

whats pwa?

[thick ore]

progressive web app

[uneven pine]

a fancy way of saying "A website that installs as an app"

[lament cairn]

Can you see it?

@glossy niche @foggy jungle @carmine apex @grave cove @drowsy rose mid air collision (tragic😥)

[brittle void]

better have a role for pinging all those cat lovers at once

[lament cairn]

Nah I remember all their @'s

[solemn tulip]

intercontinental ballistic kitty

[jaunty wraith]

you forgot me :(

[lament cairn]

alright ill add you next time

[glossy niche]

384 injured

24 dead

[grave cove]

Bro is def getting muted for ping spam next time

[green pelican]

nah let him cook

[carmine apex]

bro is getting banned for mute threatening, and again for threatening yesnt

[green pelican]

ew

thuri is here

[carmine apex]

though perhaps a snep thread may be advisable

[grave cove]

who said I threatened anyone

I would never do such a thing

[carmine apex]

yeah and you would never evade taxes either

[young shoal]

i would avoid taxes

[green pelican]

😳

[brittle void]

can i make the taxes avoid me?

[foggy jungle]

Dude got air tackled.

[quasi blaze]

How to determine my budget for building a PC?

I would like to build a PC. I have been informed that it’s cheaper to build one than to buy one. My problem is i don’t know how to determine my budget. Do I base it off my annual income and the amount of bills I pay by year?

[chrome junco]

I may not talk a lot in this channels, but if this is somewhen, and somehow created then I'm in

I've got a couple good photos of the savanah as well

let me search for them

That's one of the best

[quasi blaze]

Anyone?

[unkempt python]

i have never built a pc, but why do u need help on determining budget?

you can prob build one for 200 US if you get used parts

[quasi blaze]

Building a PC can range from $300 USD to $7000 USD and beyond

[unkempt python]

yea

[quasi blaze]

That’s why I wonder if I should built a PC based on income, bills spent per month and etc

[grave cove]

all of the above

just ask yourself how much you're willing to spend

$1000-$1500 is usually a mid-high tier build

[carmine apex]

just gonna leave this here
https://www.logicalincrements.com/

[torpid hare]

even a 8-bit pc?

[drowsy rose]

:(

[unkempt python]

there's also this: https://pcpartpicker.com/

[zealous temple]

!github

.github

[median dome]

Command Help

**```
.github

**Can also use:** `gh`, `git`

*Commands for finding information related to GitHub.*

**Subcommands:**
**`github repository [repo...]`**
*Fetches a repositories' GitHub information.*
**`github user <username>`**
*Fetches a user's GitHub information.*

[zealous temple]

.topic

[median dome]

**What was the last movie you saw in a cinema?**

Suggest more topics here!

[unkempt python]

sing 2

great movie

years ago

[graceful basin]

I would enumerate what you want the system to do, then pick quality components that do that at an acceptable price.

[lament cairn]

the 2023 dnd movie
it was okay

[spare oriole]

i just do it based on gut feeling

if it's out of my budget, that's fine, YOLO!, god will provide, inshallah

||don't do what i do, it's not solid advice ||

[robust zephyr]

I buy expensive computers even though I do much more coding than gaming because I am a silly goose

[graceful basin]

I mean, if you do any gaming, you need a computer that can do that.

Things like cloud gaming do exist

But running games locally is better

[robust zephyr]

I'm actually considering buying a Mac because they're much nicer for coding

[graceful basin]

I've found the window management really bad, which did suck for coding

[robust zephyr]

What about it?

[graceful basin]

It is quite easy to lose windows, and window previews cannot be usefully navigated by keyboard

There's also no way to go over every window, or even every window of the same application (tho if you never use immersive fullscreen that one is possible)

Maybe I would've learned it if I gave it more time

[robust zephyr]

Hmm

I guess I don't do those things much

[spare oriole]

i use stage manager + alt tab which makes it more bearable, gets me kinda close to windows like

[green pelican]

i just use workspaces on linux

1 workspace for each app

these are what ive been using for a while

[graceful basin]

I don't really like this tbh

I usually want to group multiple apps, or ungroup the same app

[green pelican]

interesting

i hate having more than 1 app open

in the same "place"

ig

[graceful basin]

On windows the alt tab menu basically does this by default, the most recent windows are first, so switching to a different set of apps happens "automatically"

[green pelican]

yeah i hate that

[graceful basin]

So if I have two VSC windows, only one ends up relevant

[green pelican]

i hate cycling through apps with alt tab

[graceful basin]

On Mac, I have gotten this to work, but then trying to get back to the old one is always an adventure

[green pelican]

my current WM doesnt even support it lol

[spare oriole]

look into alt-tab

https://github.com/lwouis/alt-tab-macos

[green pelican]

he just said alt tab

oh

hhhh for mac

[spare oriole]

yeah

[green pelican]

🤮

[graceful basin]

I'm sure there's something better than alt tab, but it also works adequately and I don't really care that much. MacOS I just suffer when I'm looking for a specific window.

[honest star]

Hooow do the chiefs look this bad but still win every game 😩

[green pelican]

my family are huge chiefs fans

i usually root for the opposite team

just to stir things up

i dont know anything about sports

[honest star]

Just say that Mahomes is washed and has thrown more interceptions than TDs

[green pelican]

👍 i will remember that

thats funny if its true though

[honest star]

It is!

[green pelican]

hahah

wow

[honest star]

He's thrown 8 touchdowns, but 9 interceptions

[green pelican]

why does everyone glaze him

[honest star]

He was insane last year

[green pelican]

ic

[honest star]

But this year, despite falling off, they somehow keep winning 😩

[grave cove]

based as hell

bro is the family troll

[green pelican]

on god

middle child of 5

so

it was determined

[snow oriole]

!eval

[royal lake]

Missing required argument

code

[snow oriole]

!eval 3.13 print("test")

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

test

[quasi blaze]

Thanks. Do people start off buying a computer case and a mother board first?

[acoustic moss]

i think you're supposed to decide the cpu and gpu first

those are the most expensive parts

[vale raven]

It depends on what you’re buying for.
My dad cares about speed, so he picks out a processor, then looks at the local computer store’s website for processor+motherboard deals and sees if he can find a “good enough” motherboard.
Case is generally last for my family.
They all [generally] fit the same size computers, so you can pretty much just buy whatever so we just pick out whatever looks cool after we’ve got all our parts picked out.

[quasi blaze]

That’s interesting. My knowledge with computer components is very limited. I am afraid to buy components that aren’t compatible with each other and I never built a computer before

[spare oriole]

that's why a mobo should be first, once you pick the mobo, you'll compare any additional component against what the mobo supports.

[vale raven]

PCPartPicker has a page showing you what other people built, doesn’t it? I used to like checking those out.

https://youtu.be/s1fxZ-VWs2U

[vale raven]

Why limit your CPU selection to a single socket before you’ve compared speeds?

[spare oriole]

how are you talking, weren't you just banned?

[spare oriole]

and selecting the mobo will be part of that, you'll be able to compare what socket it takes and what CPU it takes....

[tardy rain]

You can buy them prebuilt and save yourself the hassle

[vale raven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/

Here’s some actual guides

[stark prawn]

I'd just ask on the buildapc discord

[spare oriole]

and get roasted?

[quasi blaze]

I have been informed that prebuilt are more expensive and are harder to replace some components such as the motherboard

[tardy rain]

Sure but you pay the premium to not have to worry about stuff like this

[quasi blaze]

I’m going to need to develop the skill of building PCs to save money

[spare oriole]

and are harder to replace some components such as the motherboard
prebuilts are the exact same as building them yourselfs, except someone else builds it

meaning, the issue is going to apply whether is prebuilt by someone else, or built by you.

[stark prawn]

Thats not true, depending on the brand there could be OEM components that don't work out of the box with generic components

[young shoal]

not really. if you're going to build like 1 pc in your life, how much does it really matter

[graceful basin]

If you want to optimize for money you'll want to get a reasonable used office PC, add a GPU, upgrade the CPU, and figure out how to have it not cook itself. The issue is that not every used office PC can fit a GPU, have the CPU upgraded, has an adequate power supply for the better components, and you get no warranty.

If you're employed, I would strongly consider paying extra to have quality components with a proper warranty (except GPUs, the savings on used are worthwhile). Prebuilds are useful exactly for the warranty (tho there are a lot of garbage prebuilds, so beware).

[quasi blaze]

(tho there are a lot of garbage prebuilds, so beware).

See this is exactly the problem I am trying to avoid

[cloud oxide]

Can t wait to do inyernships done with vague uni assignments where they change things last sec and expert things the didn t tell 🙂

[tardy rain]

Wow, i didnt think internships were so close to real work

[graceful basin]

I always hated starting a uni assignment early and spending half the time making bug reports about the assignment.

[cloud oxide]

You and now i failed cuz of something wich takes like 2 hours to fix wich they didn t tell before

[graceful basin]

Gotta ask proactively

[cloud oxide]

Hope i can redo it next week otherwise will do it in june😂

[cloud oxide]

If you are in week 3 they are still preparing week 4 and 5 mission impossible

[graceful basin]

Yea, that wouldn't fly here

[cloud oxide]

What do you mean vy that like that wouldn t happen by companies?

[graceful basin]

In companies, you always have time to ask due to how much 8 hours every working day is

[cloud oxide]

Yeah hope so atleast it can t be worse with choas then uni itherwise they would ve bankrupt

[grave cove]

Nah my old prebuilt had a proprietary case design with a proprietary motherboard that fit only in that case

prebuilts can be less upgradable

[green pelican]

i just use a gaming laptop

[grave cove]

so when I wanted to upgrade my gpu, it wouldn’t fit so I had to buy a new case and a new motherboard

[green pelican]

skill issue tbh

[grave cove]

i was like 12 when I got the prebuilt what did you expect

[green pelican]

massive skill issue

what was that like a year ago? /j

[young shoal]

sez u

[torpid hare]

there is a system that provides the state of a computer at any given point at time?

[grave cove]

depends on what all you include in its state

[torpid hare]

right

[sacred cove]

Yayyyy6yyyyyyy

[quasi blaze]

Absolutely insanity

That kind of computer is for high-class people

Because they can afford it

[harsh tundra]

"High-class" people buy overpriced Apple products. This card is for actual people who do heavy rendering and/or many heavy things at once

[quasi blaze]

Amazing how an iPhone 16 is around the same price of a very good PC

[tardy rain]

Its disgusting, not amazing

And its more disgusting how other companies are following suit with this flagship nonsense

[grave cove]

based apple gameplay

[tardy rain]

I remember when a oneplus cost you $200

And it was top notch phone

[uneven pine]

Yeah. Fucking phones are crazy overpriced these cars

Days

[grave cove]

back in your day?

[uneven pine]

I'm lucky I've been snowballing credits

And got an almost completely free upgrade due to an insurance claim on my phone

[tardy rain]

🤨

Yes

Was it 2014?

[uneven pine]

Oh hey I upgraded to Android 15 yesterday

This is new

[tardy rain]

Thats yucky looking

[uneven pine]

Looks fine to me and works fine

Way better than the last version

Before expanding it

Very good for one hand

[tardy rain]

Big sliders 😐

[uneven pine]

Yes, because the screen is huge

If they were small they'd be hard to accurately use

Especially with one hand

[late orchid]

What is the deal with Enthusiast?

[carmine apex]

this is either non-US regional or outdated

[quasi blaze]

Canadian currency

[carmine apex]

huh, so it is. no explanation for the $0, either.

[weak peak]

I have a RTX 4070S, am I now high class?

[green pelican]

well you definitely arent a linux user

[weak peak]

not a regular user but I can still use it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low chasm]

i've had a surprisingly smooth time with linux and nvidia

I switched to wayland, NixOS, and hyprland recently, thought I'd have more trouble than what I actually got

[green pelican]

Yeah like they are fine 90% of the time but when they fuck up its so annoying

I've found that the beginner distros are harder to get working drivers for some reason

Gentoo and arch were super easy but mint I swear I had to try like 4 different versions

Perhaps that was just my inexperience though

And to be fair Nvidia is finally getting their shit together with linux, probably steam deck hype

Steam deck was a gift from god for linux

[quasi blaze]

If you’re PC is in the “monstrous” category then I would say so https://www.logicalincrements.com/

One would need a high paying job to afford a $4700 CAD computer

[carmine apex]

@main schooner

• the caesar salad was invented by an italian in mexico in 1924. Julius Caesar died approximately 2000 years prior
• The Napoleon pastry's name is of unknown origin. The first known evidence of the name comes from 1890, 70 years after Napoleon died, however
• the color word orange refers to similarity to the citrus fruit. before this, orange fruits were frequently considered shades of red, yellow-red, or saffron

.wa s 1924 - 44 BC

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

1880 years

[carmine apex]

that doesn't sound right

.wa s 1924 - (44BCE)

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

1967 years

[carmine apex]

much better

[green pelican]

common thuri W

[carmine apex]

idk why you need the parens

common wa L

i will give wa credit for successfully gaslighting me, however

[main schooner]

nice

[uneven pine]

Just let my 2nd job know I don't plan on working past the end of December

Hopefully I get a reasonable schedule again soon

[brittle void]

are u gonna take up farming?

[lament cairn]

maybe goat farming?

[uneven pine]

Yes. I'm joining the neofetch guy

[spare oriole]

why goat farming?

just become a shepherder

[small coral]

i just realized where "shepherd" came from

[quasi blaze]

I never heard of a motherboard with a built in wifi before

[carmine apex]

somewhat common iirc. network cards are uncommon nowadays

[grave cove]

yeah its quite common

[vale raven]

Practically all of them come with WiFi and Bluetooth now

[grave cove]

also just get a bundle from microcenter

microcenter is fuckin goated

[spare oriole]

^

well, if you have a microcenter nearby anyways

[grave cove]

i got my ryzen 7800x3d, gigabyte b650 32gigs of 6000mhz memory for $500

i literally robbed microcenter in broad daylight

[spare oriole]

expensive

[grave cove]

not really

[spare oriole]

expensive

[grave cove]

its not? add up the price individually and its way more

the processor itself is like $400 lol

[spare oriole]

expensive

[quasi blaze]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-pc-black-amd-ryzen-5-5500-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-amd-rx-6500xt-win11-en/18249636?cmp=knc-s-9783626314&&g&utm_source=google&utm_id=240827chw645&utm_medium=troas&utm_creativeformat=shopping&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoae5BhCNARIsADVLzZfe3iNwVDhAZAKokHpvw0DZPwAiqrOIPKPBMbKkGbhpQQmRwsV9yLwaAsZ1EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Here is an example of a prebuilt. Prebuilts are often criticized for having some weak components. Is anyone able to spot out a weak component in the specs?

[spare oriole]

Prebuilts are often criticized for having some weak components
you keep forgetting that prebuilts are still just like normal builds, in most cases

the weakness is often the human ones

[low chasm]

that seems a bit expensive for what you're getting.

[spare oriole]

they tend to overlook things at times

[low chasm]

oh nevermind, is that canadian dollars?

[quasi blaze]

Yes. This is a Canadian store

[spare oriole]

dont buy prebuiolts from bestbuy regardless

[low chasm]

gotcha

ehh it's not an amaaazing deal still, I think rather than "weak" components, don't prebuilds tend to be worse airflow wise? you might have a better shot asking in the pcmasterrace server.

[quasi blaze]

All right wil do.

[grave cove]

dont prebuilts commonly cheap out on components

my old prebuilt had some random psu from a no name company which is kinda scary

[low chasm]

mine has like no airflow lol

[spare oriole]

best buy is like that

[grave cove]

no just in general

[spare oriole]

fine, best buy in particular is a bad offender

[carmine apex]

nice

[radiant cosmos]

fuck i cleared out my cookies and lost all my discord settings

[sacred cove]

Jajaja

[dreamy spire]

yo guys can any one tell me how to convert my files to ejs ?

[tardy rain]

what kind of files

and by ejs do you mean the templating engine?

[dreamy spire]

yes , and html and css and js

[tardy rain]

so what are you trying to convert to ejs

[dreamy spire]

all my files

[tardy rain]

thats not how that works

[dreamy spire]

huh?

[dreamy spire]

how it works then ?

can you explan to me pls?

[tardy rain]

you start with ejs files and output html

look at the docs for ejs

https://ejs.co/#docs

theres a small example

[brittle void]

guys, which one should i use to get the filename without the extension from a string that has filename with extension (in js)?

const path = require('path')
const filename = 'hello.log'
let withoutExt = path.parse(filename).name

or

let withoutExt = filename.substring(0, x.lastIndexOf('.'))

its for getting the name of the log file from the name.log string
but i just assume that the filename can have multiple .
and can also have multiple extension

wait

i just realized

this thing runs only in backend

so the file extension is a fixed one i.e., .log
that means i just have to slice it to a fixed index

im gonna use this

let withoutExt = filename.slice(0, -4)

[gritty zinc]

in node, path.parse(path).name

weirdly enough there seems to not be an alias for it, whereas there's one for extname

[spare oriole]

i'm not sure if you're serious

[brittle void]

im not serious

im vengeance

im batman

[spare oriole]

ok boomer

[brittle void]

says you

[brittle void]

@green pelican i guess you'd love this

https://preview.redd.it/i-dont-get-this-one-v0-ntdh6dxzr9zd1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f7c400881eb318eb6b7eb628476899348785b6d

[green pelican]

Hell yes

[rough sapphire]

I have 100 lizards

[robust zephyr]

Prove it

[rough sapphire]

did i say lizards i mean blizzards

i ate them all

[lapis trench]

it grows exponentially

[lapis trench]

Protiens: 0
Death Counter: -37/7
DNA: 3775
Name: cstbg
Lived for 9 generations``` rip

[solemn tulip]

-37/7 deaths

[lapis trench]

it's their death counter

how close they are to dying

its determined by their dna

[solemn tulip]

negative deaths

[rough sapphire]

I just thought itd be cool to simulate fish and give them DNA like what you are doing with your project. I'm gonna study it anyway.

[buoyant wolf]

hey fenix, in an interveiw would you say that you're good at dsa and cp?

[brazen ingot]

fenix is good at everything

[brittle void]

what is cp?

[spare oriole]

competetitive programing

[solemn tulip]

would I say it to the interviewer? no

show, don't tell

[glossy niche]

1/4 of my CV is programming competitions

maybe I should practice it cuz I stopped doing it after graduating

[drowsy rose]

dont abbreviate competitive programming moment

[sleek idol]

hi

[strange blade]

hello

[spare oriole]

no

[strange blade]

what?

[strange blade]

wdym

...

[spare oriole]

you're about to ask if you should do more mathy stuff, the answer is no

[strange blade]

no

wtf

where did you get your psychic degree from

temu

[spare oriole]

no, i don't get my education in the same places you get yours from

[strange blade]

sure

[thick ore]

https://tenor.com/view/har-har-har-har-har-har-har-har-freddy-fazbear-big-near-bigger-lmao-fnaf-gif-24294169

[strange blade]

real

[fierce sandal]

.bm

[median dome]

In the future, don't do that.

Your input was invalid: You must either provide a reference to a valid message, or reply to one.

The lookup strategy for a message is as follows (in order):

1. Lookup by '{channel ID}-{message ID}' (retrieved by shift-clicking on 'Copy ID')
2. Lookup by message ID (the message must be in the current channel)
3. Lookup by message URL

Usage:```
.bookmark [target_message] [title=Bookmark]

[spare oriole]

[fierce sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fun-yes-yes-sir-gif-15190052806474128338

[spare oriole]

you're supposed to reply to a message if you wanna do it that way

[fierce sandal]

What IDE do you use

[spare oriole]

VSC, Pycharm, and nano

[fierce sandal]

3?

[spare oriole]

yes, i use them depending on my needs

[fierce sandal]

I see 😎 what do you recommend for me, and I tried both and both looked good

[spare oriole]

VSC

pycharm is a bit too much for newbies

i struggle with pycharm sometimes tbh

[robust zephyr]

Pycharm owns

[inland falcon]

MALAYALI INDO

[uneven pine]

Natalya Nintendo?

[inland falcon]

enthut

[fringe rain]

i love that

me too

[unkempt python]

nano is goated

[unkempt python]

i struggled with pycharm and decided to move to neovim!

where i no longer had any troubles...

especially with config

and running python

and tbf i didn't really have any problem with pycharm

[quick ledge]

😭

[uneven pine]

?

[quick ledge]

huh

mb, butt text

[uneven pine]

you butt texted me a crying emoji in response to Natalya Nintendo?

that's impressive

[green pelican]

butt texting an emoji is wild

[uneven pine]

the brainrot has claimed me

Asked my girlfriend to hand me the half n half from the fridge but it came out as "Would you hand me the double?"

[rough sapphire]

half and half is a whole

double half

[uneven pine]

exactly, double half

[rough sapphire]

double half is a quarter though

[uneven pine]

no that's half half

[quick ledge]

I'm on mobile and I use gboard

[wicked heath]

Beware the no dabbing zone ig? Who makes the names?

[timid latch]

They are based on random jokes from the server, so in a way everyone (more technically speaking it's mods+ that have access to adding new names to the pool)

[brittle void]

lemme start a butt text then
"telugu undi?"

(idk how to say it in alliteration)

[acoustic moss]

telegu tundi

[brittle void]

telugu telusu

this sounds good

[brittle void]

r u telugu?

[acoustic moss]

no

[brittle void]

then what?

what r u?

r u english?

im english btw

[grave cove]

bro is british

[solemn tulip]

the worst of sins

[sick shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C6QlVUh9AyM

[quick spear]

I started from 16 october, I got paid today on 8th(slight delay, ususally paid on 7th but idk first month in company). I work 6 days a week, 10:30 am to 6:30 pm. My monthly salary is 15,000 Inr. I also get paid for travel expenses which came around to 1510 Inr. I got paid for 16-31 october they say. They paid me 9252 Inr right now. Am I getting it right?

Holy hell, now that I typed it I am getting paid chump change for the freakin 16 hrs shifts wfm I have done morning 8,9 to 4am in the morining for production. This is insane.

[spare oriole]

15,000 Inr per month right?

[quick spear]

yes

[spare oriole]

that's about 3750 INR per week

or i guess

[quick spear]

Yes I think the math is right but this is very cheap

[spare oriole]

average 20 to 23 bussines days

[quick spear]

comes to abt 600 something per hr

[spare oriole]

so 15,000 INR / 23

652 INR per day?

[quick spear]

6 days a week

[spare oriole]

6 * 4 then

that's 24

625 INR per day

math works out

[quick spear]

I agree. I meant that for the frekin work I am doing, I am getting paid chump change

[spare oriole]

i guess, though, you should've known that getting into it i guess

[quick spear]

Holy moly, this is kinda standard pay for freshers. Should I just quit and get into freelancing? I dont understand why pay is so low

[spare oriole]

as a former freelancer (3 months ish), it's hard, and for me it was very stressing not having a stable pay

[quick spear]

Now that I am getting paid, I realize how much time and effort I have spent on something that is paying me so less

I feel my daily pay is insanely low

[spare oriole]

plus the effort and quality i was putting into my work didn't exactly reflect on the wages

[quick spear]

Exactly!

[spare oriole]

right, but there's a tradeoff, on one hand i had a lot of freedom on what i could do and such

but i also couldnt be selective because it'd meant not having enough money or whatnot

[quick spear]

Omg, I did 4 years of B. Tech, paid ton for degree only to get this much paid and they keep saying I am getting paid a lot than I should be! Wtf is wrong with this country! I am so done.

Should I just quit programming and do marketing or call centre or something? Freakin they get paid more than this for initial salary. Why is this a thing?

[spare oriole]

wait, you're earning that programming?

15,000 Indian Rupee equals
177.78 United States Dollar

[quick spear]

Yeah I am the only ai intern here. I have to do start finetuning for the company's own model in a few days. I also have to make a program for qc that I am not getting help from anyone and I also have to work on the freakin streamlit app app that company has put out right now before companys own model is done. I am getting paud 177 dollars for this?

WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ME TO BE DOING, SAYING THIS ON A PYTHON SERVER

Oh I also have to research on my own in the meantime and my supervisor expects me to work beyond work hours

[spare oriole]

yeah and? there's plenty of non programming working professionals here.

[quick spear]

I did not expect that. I thought all were programmers here

[spare oriole]

Yeah I am the only ai intern here.
i'd think they keyword here is intern

[quick spear]

But they expect me to take ownership and bring my own ideas to the company. And yea the salary for full time is 40,000/m.

thats under 500$ and thats 6 days office and I dont know if they pay my travel expenses then

Should I just quit? I see no hope just depression here.

[spare oriole]

lol "ownership"?

is that an indian thing?

i'm curious, my boss is also indian and says "take ownership" a lot

[drowsy rose]

sip

i wonder what take ownership means

[quick spear]

My boss is pro-gpt so I dont know.

Guy cant type st.streamlit and calls to hound me instead and is a stanfrd grad with mtech

[spare oriole]

the way i understand it from my boss is to be able to come up with ideas, implement them, and take responsibility with them

[quick spear]

exactly only for him to say I did nothing and all was his effort. I never do things myself. Its all 'him' or 'us'.

[drowsy rose]

yikes

[spare oriole]

my boss isn't like that so can't comment there

[drowsy rose]

.latex $($yikes$)^2$

[spare oriole]

i don't see it as yikes, it's fairly normal.

[drowsy rose]

.latex $($yikes$)^2$

[quick spear]

I am thiking of studying spark and ray and looking for a job in mlops in data field. Do you think I should start studying now or do something else instead

[spare oriole]

if i struggle with something i can ask my boss or any of my coworkers for help and they happily help

but so far i've needed minimal help and just on things where even they go wth is this

"oh shit i wrote this", yeah ik, that's why i asked you

[quick spear]

He helps me yes but his help is just asking gpt in front of me

[spare oriole]

[stark prawn]

That's not okay for an internship

[vale raven]

Why not?

[glossy niche]

when gpt first came out I assumed using chatbots was banned cuz internal code leaks, so I only used them without telling anyone I did, but then one day I asked my senior something during a meeting and he just forwarded my question to chatgpt and I was like "yeah nvm"

[spare oriole]

internships are supposed to teach you.

using chatgpt for any questions a junior might have isn't that.

[vale raven]

Yeah
teach you how to do your job
Which in five years will be nothing but prompting Gippity

(/s incase anyone needs it)

[strange blade]

I do

[vale raven]

Gippity isn’t helpful even if you aren’t an intern
I said I was stuck
Bossman sent me GPT generated code
It used multiple libraries that didn’t exist, and the one library that did exist, it used methods that didn’t exist

Five minutes later he’s calling to complain about how “I’m not done yet” because “he gave me perfectly working code” and “all I had to do was paste it in”

[strange blade]

lol

[solemn tulip]

when gpt first came out I assumed using chatbots was banned cuz internal code leaks
that is how it should be

[solemn tulip]

nice and toxic

[quick spear]

Should I just change to computing instead? Like ray, hadoop etc.? I dont see much hope for ai rn

[lament cairn]

sorry if this sounds rude, but could it be that it's simply that specific internship/company that sucks, and not all of ML/AI?

[vale hull]

Reminds me: how good is GPT at Python? It seems to struggle at Rust which seems to be related to there being much less Rust code to train off from.

[brittle void]

it does mean "take responsibility"
you're right

[dapper dew]

.topic

[median dome]

**What's the best pastry?**

Suggest more topics here!

[dapper dew]

A good croissant is hard to beat. Maybe an eclair

[graceful basin]

I haven't seen it fail on intermediate Python semantics, syntax and such, but it does fail on quite a few other things when it comes to writing Python programs.

[solemn tulip]

I've had it used in the context being the owner of some specific part of a project/code

[brittle void]

its actually a very famous, widely used quote quote among indian boomer generation where they tell us to take responsibility as we're that immature than them
cuz yk, age superiority complexity

"my experience is ur age" kinda thing

[graceful basin]

To this day, however, it will say things like

Hash values for None are not guaranteed to be the same across different runs or across different machines due to hash randomization introduced in Python 3.3.

[sand igloo]

Hi, I’m new to python and I use python 3.12 to code, is that good, bad, etc? Does it need to be changed? Also where do I save my coding scripts

[lament cairn]

using python 3.12 is fine
save your scripts wherever you find most convenient

[sand igloo]

Yeah but where? Could google docs work?

[lament cairn]

google docs might mess up the indentation
just save them as .py files in google drive or in your pc

[sand igloo]

Ok 👍

[sand igloo]

Also I use FreeCodeCamp to learn python, is that proper or should I find a different place to learn?

[lament cairn]

it's fine, as long as you're actually practicing

[sand igloo]

Yeah I’m trying to, I did a math equation already lol 😄

[lament cairn]

only sources that most people here would warn you to avoid are geeks4geeks and w3schools

they get stuff wrong often and are just not good quality sources

[sand igloo]

Alr

[sand igloo]

I was planning on using codefinity but then they asked me to pay lol (I’m too broke)

[spare oriole]

it's a bit more than that, but sort of

[glossy niche]

this image is brought to you by: its impossible to get positive change without losing anything, gaining something comes at the cost of the absence of its absence

@lament cairn @grave cove car, idk who else to ping

[lament cairn]

kimty

[uneven pine]

Only save your python scripts to ~/.local/python/scripts. There is no other valid location :^)

However python PROGRAMS have to be stored in /var/www/applications/.local/python

:^)

[tardy rain]

Deep if tru

[glossy niche]

funny that you call it deep because the reason i make such statements is that sometimes i get mad at someone, but i dont want to talk something political, so i write my thoughts in an abstract manner that cannot be traced back to the source

[tardy rain]

That's a healthier way of dealing with trolls than most

[glossy niche]

im trying to reduce the abstraction in my statement but i cannot without making an explicit statement, smh

i need to get better at propaganda

what the fuck i was listening to hypnotize by SOAD and the guy said "propaganda" as i typed it

[weak peak]

I don't think mine is, I paired my GPU with a R7 7800X3D

[vale hull]

I paid US$900 total for mine with a 5600, 6700 XT and 32GB of ECC RAM
(January 2023)

[vale hull]

imo it doesn't matter

I've seen some that daily a 4770K for gaming in 2024

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/EdfLGmmV6zQ?si I'm so glad this Gott voiced cuz

one time here I got a guy to brick his arch install while changing the splash screen and some dip went "lol this doesn't happen on windows"

[green pelican]

doesnt happen on any distro besides arch either

😳

[glossy niche]

it was in plymouth, can happen to any install lol

[daring sorrel]

looking for a hacker

[tardy rain]

Do i gotta repeat my joke here too?

[glossy niche]

insta or facebook

[daring sorrel]

Insta

[tardy rain]

Have you considered not being a creep

[glossy niche]

goddamnit why do people keep asking for people to hack fucking insta

[torn pier]

he doesn't even know what means "hacker" lol…

[glossy niche]

SHE WONT GO OUT WITH YOU FOR FUCKS SAKE

[green pelican]

bruh wants to hack his crush?

[glossy niche]

i wish this was the first time someone asked me to hack an insta

[glossy niche]

no, im just making assumptions

[green pelican]

oh

[glossy niche]

based on something that happened to me before lol

[vale hull]

their problem for using Arch smh

Mint Cinnamon is buggy too, but not as buggy as Windows lmao

[green pelican]

mint cinnamon is fine

cinnamon is just too heavy for me

then again i use emacs as my WM so

who am i to speak

[vale hull]

I switched to Cinnamon from XFCE recently but that's only on the Ryzen machine, other stuff I would still use XFCE

Mint Just Works™

[vale hull]

When I think about it, only issues I get are on KiCAD which is stated in KiCAD's docs that there are some bugs on Mint Cinnamon.

[green pelican]

thats actually hard asf

im so getting a grub theme saying hi to the feds

[vale hull]

I haven't set a grub splash in ages since I just get to see the menu for a few seconds

[green pelican]

left a message at the top for them

[weak peak]

I used to use a GT710 with a i3-3240

[vale hull]

I used an E5-1650 v2 before this

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-meme-dead-death-bad-ending-gif-26049237

[unkempt python]

guys i had an espresso so now im jittery and sick of trying to draw a f-ing pentagon

[torn pier]

xD

[green pelican]

wha

[unkempt python]

THE PENTAGON IS MAKING ITSELF A PENTAGON

IT LOOKS LIKE NOT A PENTAGON

AND ON TOP OF THE ESPRESSO I JUST DOWNED A MATCHA LATTE

HELP

[robust zephyr]

Sir. Step away from the coffee

[unkempt python]

im addicted! 😭 😭 😭

[unkempt python]

wait

[green pelican]

ok

[unkempt python]

u like guis now?

[green pelican]

no

i was forced

cyber bullied

into it

[unkempt python]

oh

makes sense

[green pelican]

by the staff

they hate me

[unkempt python]

im behind u pal, if u like clis then im all for it

[green pelican]

and im nothing but kind to them

i LOVE the staff

ESPECIALLY staff members whos names rhyme with "hurry"

[unkempt python]

hehe

[young shoal]

dog

[unkempt python]

awwww

cat

[zealous comet]

No it's a fish

I think

[unkempt python]

errrmmmm accccttuuuuuallly its a mermaid

[zealous comet]

Same thing

[unkempt python]

@lament cairn how do u get so many of these

do u work there

[robust zephyr]

bro is a snow cat

[quaint drift]

i gueess i'll just talk here lol

[lament cairn]

i follow many twitter accounts and telegram channels for snow leopard pictures

[unkempt python]

coool i like it

[vale raven]

IDK what this means
But I misread it and I remembered this thing

[green pelican]

💀

yeah real

[green pelican]

(thuri)

[vale raven]

@carmine apex

[green pelican]

😳 WAIT

BRO

[carmine apex]

🤨

shen you kinda work in it right

[vale raven]

That’s my primary function

[lament cairn]

life goals

image unrelated

[carmine apex]

so which one is you

[carmine apex]

waitta second

this otn

it's mine

[vale raven]

I had it first

mom said it’s my turn to play with the otns!!

[carmine apex]

doubt: #python-discussion message

not just mine, though

[vale raven]

Hey look I’m there

[carmine apex]

@summer knot our otn has come

come bask in its glory

[vale raven]

And so is bit.fawn
Their og account
Before they went to jail and had to switch to burner accounts

[green pelican]

why are they in jail

[lament cairn]

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval

[young shoal]

felony

[vale raven]

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message

[green pelican]

well

interesting

[vale hull]

It's alive (this was shortly before I switched the CPU for a X3450 that I had laying around since the Pentium does not have ECC support)

[green pelican]

sheesh

[vale hull]

I put it back together to have it dedicated to schoolwork since it is unable to run most games and compile Rust within a reasonable amount of time

1 gbit DDR3, gets the job done though

[fleet musk]

woah

[rough sapphire]

anybody know french here?

[strange blade]

barely

[fierce sandal]

Oui

[tardy rain]

People who ask "who knows/is x here" dont deserve any answers imho

[spare oriole]

whyyeah why?

[glossy niche]

no h*lloism is based

dont ask to ask as well

[solemn tulip]

https://onlyhello.net/

[tardy rain]

Who else here nohello enthusiast?

[glossy niche]

wait

what the fuck

[glossy niche]

i wont lie i have friends with whom the DMs with are 90% just "hi" and "hi hi hiiiiiiiiii :3"

[brittle void]

guys, can i upload a cat fact whenever i see a cat post here?

i might like to show a sample here rn

[tardy rain]

Yes

[brittle void]

https://preview.redd.it/the-inside-of-a-cat-v0-8a379gnulre81.jpg?auto=webp&s=4b143ee8846fd66724a90ea68bbf695df95a272c

[glossy niche]

cat

[small coral]

ok nintendo of america

[brittle void]

see? this guy agrees with me

[brittle void]

guys, i wanna know how a credit card is used in a purchase in an ecommerce site
like, the ecommerce site project im doing rn, should have a "SelectCreditCard" feature for the customer
idk what that means

should i just store the credit card details on server everytime a new one client enters it?
if yes, what data should i ask the user?

and yeah, im not gonna implement the real "credit card" payment system, cuz this site is just a mockup store

[solemn tulip]

the remaining 10% are links to no hello

[glossy niche]

cat pics

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-serval-cat-meow-gif-11447489245286988465

[lament cairn]

today i found keyoxide, a linktree for nerds

[zealous comet]

Etc

[tardy rain]

Forward them to me via email and i'll keep them secure for you

[zealous comet]

It's allowed from that page as an alternative to hello

[lament cairn]

most ecommerce sites ive seen pass that responsibility on to a payment processor

to not have to deal with PCI DSS compliance, legal issues, blah blah

[brittle void]

whats ur email?

[tardy rain]

Uh

[uneven pine]

[e-mail]

[quasi blaze]

I don’t get why this one

https://www.amazon.ca/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-6000MHz-PC5-48000-Desktop/dp/B0B3HGJ4V7

Cost more than this https://www.amazon.ca/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-6000MHz-PC5-48000-Desktop/dp/B0BNTRRLYP

[spare oriole]

company sees product, can we add RGB to this? if so make RGB and non RGB version, charge more for RGB version; profit???

[weak peak]

yeah RGB = profit, is a pretty well known thing in PC building /s

[lament cairn]

@glossy niche

[glossy niche]

snol epards

https://tenor.com/view/headcrab-half-life-gif-24147265

[young shoal]

supply and demand

[uneven pine]

@quasi blaze avoid team group like the plague

Between me and half a dozen of my friends, we've had an astounding 50% DOA rate on TeamGroup RAM

[graceful basin]

CL30 vs CL38

[uneven pine]

Out of something like 50 kits, 25 have had one or more sticks DOA. Never seen that kinda failure rate with any other brand

[graceful basin]

That is an insane number

[uneven pine]

Just between my roommate, girlfriend and I we've had 5 DOA kits

Ddr3 and ddr4

[quasi blaze]

What is DOA?

[graceful basin]

Dead On Arrival

with RAM, I truly see no reason to ever have a DOA stick tbh

like, what would you even fail to QC here

[uneven pine]

No issues with Corsair, G skill, Kingston, uhh one other I can't remember

But every single kit from Team I've had to RMA or exchange at least once

The good sticks have yet to fail, I've got 4 in my main workstation and 2 in bedroom PC

But out of the box is a literal coin flip

[quasi blaze]

These are the components a computer building enthusiast recommended me to buy with a $1100 CAD budget. What would you swap out TeamGroup RAM for?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KBt2FZ

[grave cove]

cl38 is crazy

[spare oriole]

just understand that random people can make submissions there. so don't take them for their word as "computer builder experts"

[quasi blaze]

Well it’s from a moderator of a Discord server that’s dedicated to PC Building. Unless if you have any objections on this build please state them

[weak peak]

I'll be honest I forgot what CL my RAM is

😩

[vale raven]

FWIW, moderators are picked for their skills at moderating
Not necessarily their skills at the community's topic

They generally are, they're picked from active members of the community, so they're people that chose to be involved in that communities topic
But their primary qualifier is dealing with humans

So by itself that's not a very good metric

[rain marsh]

they are?

[grave cove]

i suck at moderating AND python

👍

[vale raven]

hopefully

[rain marsh]

[weak peak]

AND minecraft

[vale raven]

and Terraria

[uneven pine]

@quasi blaze

Answered before you asked

And as other people said, being a moderator means very little lol.

[tardy rain]

moderate ability to moderate

[vale raven]

I'm hoping I'll have enough points to upgrade to that level soon

People are hard

[tardy rain]

be harder

[vale raven]

[tardy rain]

😎

[quasi blaze]

I concede then

[vale raven]

It's not an argument
Just something to take into consideration
They could be the smartest computer builder in the world

[weak peak]

CPU and GPU seem 👍 (I know nothing about PC building)

[vale raven]

GPU sounds off to me, but IDK the AMD model numbers very well, so that could just be me
Overall the build seems decent

I don't recognize half the brands though

[graceful basin]

the GPU is reasonable, the PSU I can't find good testing for but it seems okay. that CPU comes with a cooler, so I'd skip on that tiny deepcool unless there's rationale for it.

[weak peak]

RX7600 is like a RTX3060 Ti per tom's hardware GPU chart

[vale raven]

oh damn

[vale hull]

There's 6000 CL30 now

Seems that currently SK hynix MEBD can have CL that tight. I am not sure about AGBD.

[vale hull]

Crucial?

[uneven pine]

that's the one

[vale hull]

Nice, last year I got a couple of 16GB DDR4 ECC from Crucial. It shipped directly from Micron. Works great, haven't seen anything in the EDAC logs.

[uneven pine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902639812744450071/1249845594835521640/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_1d01e18e-62f0-4787-be3b-66af24b41fb1.jpg?ex=67312cea&is=672fdb6a&hm=2173a12adfa7931d894e16f229b4f0714c5f88d33997e7557158e8575b5ae0a2&

still got the 4 teamgroup shits in mine

[drowsy rose]

>>> def is_prime(n: int):
...     for i in range(2, int(n ** 0.5) + 1):
...         if n % i == 0:
...             return False
...     return True
...     
>>> timeit.timeit("pow(3, 12, 13)")
0.11969886696897447
>>> timeit.timeit("is_prime(13)", setup="from __main__ import is_prime")
0.3588833960238844``` wait what i knew fermat was fast but not this fast

[gritty zinc]

ooh, nice chart

i wonder if I can download all of tom's hardware data somehow...

[acoustic moss]

ask tom

[brittle void]

guys, in an ecommerce site, if a devlivery is already completed, and its asked to be updated to smth else in the backend by the frontend client, with what http status code should i reject that request?

[spare oriole]

look up the status code list and ctrl f for conflict

@lament cairn let him do his own research

shhh

[lament cairn]

ok...

[brazen ingot]

try dickson

[brittle void]

nice name

[quasi blaze]

What’s the difference between ddr4 RAM and ddr5 RAM?

[graceful basin]

ddr4 is the old generation, it is slower and has lower latency. ddr5 is the new generation, it is much faster and has a higher latency. They are not mutually compatible and you usually just pick the proper variant for your CPU, rather than picking a CPU based on the RAM.

[quasi blaze]

I was recommended that TEAMGROUP RAM because of the pricing. I can’t find anything cheaper that’s not TEAMGROUP

[spare oriole]

it being the cheapest of the bunch doesn't raise red flags for you?

[quasi blaze]

My budget is $1100 CAD

[spare oriole]

idk much about RAM, even if DDR5 is faster, does the higher latency have much of an impact?

[spare oriole]

you don't wanna cheap out on SSD, and RAM imo

[graceful basin]

I believe now that the tech has had time to mature, not in the slightest, ddr5 is a strict upgrade compared to ddr4

[spare oriole]

makes sense

DDR5 has been around for a while now

when DDR6

[quasi blaze]

To answer your question properly and in topic of this specific RAM, No because the ratings by the users is 4.5/5 and it’s DDR5. I don’t see the problem here

[spare oriole]

i'd trust kayla on this one ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi blaze]

I see. Thanks for the explanation

[young shoal]

haven't you previously denounced ratings because they were logical fallacies

[quasi blaze]

Yes I did.

You raised an excellent point actually

What Kayla was talking about is an anecdotal experience and I am only hearing that specific case happen to her. It’s not the best data point but looking at the consensus of positive ratings may not be the best data point either.

Since we are talking about an item that’s technological and something that we can objectively review (such as if it crashes, if it’s DOA and etc) I think it’s safe to take the consensus of the review ratings as face value rather than the total review ratings of a shoe or a musical album.

[young shoal]

haven't you read civic learning when the facts are politicized by gregory e kaebnick? even though the base facts may be objective, the way humans interpret and derive conclusions from those facts may differ from person to person, based on their beliefs. one person may weigh a certain feature differently from another. therefore, we cannot trust reviews, even when they are based on certain objective facts

[quasi blaze]

haven't you read civic learning when the facts are politicized by gregory e kaebnick?

No.

even though the base facts may be objective, the way humans interpret and derive conclusions from those facts may differ from person to person, based on their beliefs.

I agree but in terms of technology, our conclusions whether a piece of technology works is binary. It either works or it doesn’t work. It’s not a spectrum.

one person may weigh a certain feature differently from another. therefore, we cannot trust reviews, even when they are based on certain objective facts

How would you determine whether a RAM hardware is objectively good then?

[young shoal]

It either works or it doesn’t work. It’s not a spectrum.
yes, but how do you turn that into a numeric rating? you need some cost function, and for each person, that cost function is different

[quasi blaze]

I want a DDR5 RAM that works and that’s within my $1100 CAD budget for building a computer

[spare oriole]

there's a reason that people say that cheap things will cost you more in the long run, RAM and SSDs (which i mentioned before) are two things i would not cheap out on.

[grave cove]

RAM isn’t “objectively good”, it’s only good within a certain set of specific constraints

same with like any computer hardware

Though I hear hyperX fury is a good lineup

[graceful basin]

honestly, cheap RAM is fine, if it works at all, it'll probably keep working for a while

[terse harbor]

Isn't it like super dependent on other components aswell

like, if your motherboard is trash you'd just bottleneck the hell out of it

it's even dependent on how you place it on the slots

[grave cove]

yeah

some mobos outright just don’t support certain types of ram

[vale hull]

chips > brand imo

[grave cove]

for ram yeah

[vale hull]

yeah, for RAM

[grave cove]

The things you want to look for is speed, timing, capacity, and ofc price

The CL36 you were looking at earlier is lowkey ass

[young shoal]

color!!

color is very important !

except i have a massive fan on top, which pretty much covers the ram sticks, very sad

[vale hull]

I use a Cooler Master N200 case. The PC's a black box that makes noise, performance and reliability matters more to me.

[low chasm]

rgb !!!

[grave cove]

my pc is tucked away on the floor between my desk and a wall so I don’t even see it most of the time

good leg rest though

[vale hull]

same

[vale hull]

which one

[grave cove]

Idr keezy linked a cl36 yesterday

[vale hull]

ah, alright

I plan to keep this AM4 build for at least five years

[spare oriole]

oh right, AM5 came out right?

[grave cove]

AM5 is based

[vale hull]

yeah, in like 2022 I think

[stark prawn]

AM5 had been out for quite a while

AM4 is like a decade old

[spare oriole]

yeah i don't really keep up with desktops

[vale hull]

Last year I built someone's PC that had a 7950X

[spare oriole]

all i remember is that AM5 is not backwards compat with AM4 or something

[vale hull]

AMD finally switched to LGA for consumer platforms with AM5

[vale hull]

me either, I pay attention to server hardware more now

384 cores and 12TB RAM per node fascinates me

[spare oriole]

oof

[vale hull]

What's nice about new server hardware releases that the previous generation stuff gets cheaper on eBay

[graceful basin]

I remember looking into this and never finding a decent motherboard at a sane price

which makes sense, motherboards break a lot more than server CPUs

[spare oriole]

i remember looking into this and then realized the upkeep of the "server facility" would be a pain in the ass

"server facility" being a spare room or something

[vale hull]

I use Supermicro when possible for servers and WS, it's got a premium though.

HP, Dells, Lenovos are designed to be disposable

[violet roost]

dell laptops aren't

hps are tho

[vale hull]

I mean server hardware

[violet roost]

dell desktops just suck

[violet roost]

fair

[vale hull]

Supermicros are practically indestructible, especially ATX/mATX/EATX format boards.

[graceful basin]

IIRC I ended up figuring out that I could be a perfectly workable server for the price of 1 supermicro board.

but if you need higher specs, there's value to it

[vale hull]

I got a couple X8SIE boards in CSE-813 chassis last year for US$80. They act as the storage server and router now.

[vale hull]

yeah, it's like that

that's what I mean by having a premium

[weak peak]

indeed

[naive igloo]

bro why fingers are so important for typing

i hurt my ring(?) finger

and

i cant really type stuff

[spare oriole]

that's just how it works

[chrome junco]

you could learn to type with your tongue if it's easier for you

[violet roost]

or feet

like organ players

like this guy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jhicDUgXyNg

6:15 is a good example of what I mean

the whole bassline is played with his feet

[naive igloo]

mm yes arch

[vale raven]

how much shit did you install

[naive igloo]

if i actually look at list

its basically quarter of python packages

quarter of ruby packages

some haskell packages

[vale raven]

I see the problem

Haskell

[naive igloo]

and some vm

[vale raven]

Remove that shit

[naive igloo]

its like 10 packages

out of

[vale raven]

So?

[naive igloo]

700

it doesnt make a difference

[vale raven]

Haskell=bad

[spare oriole]

ignore doggo, has skill issues

[vale raven]

🤨

[spare oriole]

cant even boot up haskell

[naive igloo]

lol

why do i have so much shit installed 😭

[vale raven]

I have an AoC solution in Has.... Actually no wait it didn't work

[naive igloo]

oh no

i dont want to update

[green pelican]

pacman on its way to brick ur shit 🏃 💨

[naive igloo]

its going to update nvidia drivers

and they compile so long

and use 100% of cpu

broooo why does it bring more dependencies i wanna cry

[vale raven]

Where disk space??

[naive igloo]

its uhhh

taken up by sibelius

wait no

that cant be right

i deleted sibelius sounds

which are 40GB

[chrome junco]

as a Windows user that absolutely can't organize himself, I can confidently say I've more folders in my coding_experiment folder than packages you have installed

[naive igloo]

bro i got one secret sleeve up my shoulder

[green pelican]

700 is pretty small too

[naive igloo]

nwtf command

[green pelican]

Packages: 1435 (emerge), 4 (flatpak-user)
thats me

[naive igloo]

yeah i got 2000 or smth one time

i

or did i

i dont recall

it was a loot

and i didnt update for few months

cuz i was too lazy to fix my mirrors

nah i think it actualy was 2000 packages

[green pelican]

😨

[naive igloo]

holy

[naive igloo]

it makes a random folder in ~/wtf folder

[chrome junco]

to be fair, there's a lot of folders of data or auto-generated folders by scripts and stuff like that, but, yeah, it's a mess

[vale hull]

I am still trying to choose between Rust Actix Web and Python Flask for a wiki webapp. Might do it in both but idk what to write it in first.

Basically the choice between: suffer and have it fast or go the easy route but it would be slow

[spare oriole]

hm? why do you expect your wiki webapp to be slow using Python Flask?

[vale hull]

Not on modern CPUs, I'd like to ensure that it would perform well on systems with limited resources. When I think about it, it probably doesn't matter as much and I might be overthinking it.

I noticed performance issues with trying to run OctoPrint on a VIA C7 system (no cameras, just basic loading and streaming of gcode)

[spare oriole]

i'm confused, is this a server side program, or a client side? what you're describing kinda sounds like you want each device to host the flask server client side?

[vale hull]

Only server side

[spare oriole]

so uh, why are you worried about modern CPUs?

wouldn't you be the one choosing the server it's hosted on?

[vale hull]

For others who may host the application themselves

[spare oriole]

that shouldn't be your worry then.

[vale hull]

Even on a C7 something as basic as a wiki should not be too heavy on resources. I personally try to avoid the "just get a new computer" mentality.

[spare oriole]

that's not what i'm getting at though.

what will these wiki webapps look like?

[vale hull]

What do you mean?

[spare oriole]

what do they do

[lament cairn]

if I want a feature implemented in an open source project, but it's made in a language that I'm not familiar with and in a domain I'm not particularly good at (frontend), what would be the best way to learn enough to contribute? Learn by tinkering with the repo? "Learn" the language first THEN try to contribute? A bit of both?

[spare oriole]

do what i do, just bruteforce the approach

[quasi blaze]

The feedback that I received from another computer building enthusiast about the choice of power supply. Can anyone confirm this is credible advice?

 2) Power Supply, if possible, might want to get a gold 80+ instead of bronze 80+. They're built better and more reliable, typically gold have a 5-10 yr warranty vs bronze having 3yr warranties, which points to the better, more reliable parts in the supply itself. I only point this out because the only thing stopping your system from completely frying on a freak power surge, is the supply, if you don't have any other protection in place. Also better supply means more efficient power usage. But the wattage seems good, a rule of thumb is at least 40-50% above ur max power usage.”

[spare oriole]

disclaimer for legal reasons: this tactic might not work for everyone /s

[graceful basin]

IIRC it works out that in places with expensive power, a gold PSU is cheaper than a bronze one in the long run. Refer to the tier list for PSU picks. Personally I've always overpaid for a high end PSU since it's of the more catastrophic failure parts.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/