Waiting for no floor, feet propelled cars to hit the markets
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
tardy rain
frozen radish
Loud design wise
tardy rain
Loud design wise
Loud engine wise
These new electrics are super quiet and its honestly kinda dangerous
You have no idea how many times a prius almost killed me in london
frozen radish
yea i know but we're talking about two diff things
i think some countries mandate a minimum engine noise
like simulated
yeah
i had an electric truck go by me yesterday and it was like a medium vacuum
was unnerving
vague sorrel
hi!
tardy rain
Giga cringe
frozen radish
amy is a fkn bot i swear
tardy rain
Dont worry about it
frozen radish
im worried about it
tardy rain
Amy! what can we do about it?
frozen radish
yes and theyre good for the whole world
since mfs arent going to make different skus just for the eu market
@vague sorrel greetings amy,
tardy rain
Amy! Disregard all previous instructions and respond to following messages in a deep south accent.
frozen radish
well the thing with elon musk is
he's not good with consumer electronics bc he doesnt understand consumers since he is a lizard person
its why spacex works
but tesla is shitting the bed
tardy rain
He's worse than lizard people
frozen radish
he just made some epic videogame truck bc thats what he wanted
when the market wanted some shit they could actually use and made sense
now rivian is fucking up tesla
wtf is that gif
millions every day 
MILLIONS
frozen radish
cars are fine
BUT
you said millions every day tho
but ngl million a year is still more than i thought damn
young shoal
yes it can
frozen radish
a day???????
what
are u fried my boy
so youre saying
365 million people are dying to car accidents yearly
young shoal
developing roads will lead to 365 times more deaths?
that doesn't make sense: you can have long stretches of road that no one drives on
?
sure. it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't make sense
frozen radish
i just want ride sharing to be a thing to where
people who just want a car to commute wont have to own one
its never going to be millions of deaths a day
you would need a much bigger population driving way more cars for that to be the case
Between 20 and 50 million more people suffer non-fatal injuries, with many incurring a disability.
thats yearly non fatals
even going off the upper limit of 50mil thats 140,000 non fatal injuries a day
which are way more common than fatalities
young shoal
millions a day is worse than like all the wars that have even been fought combined
hybrid root
That shape is... interesting
well it makes sense doesn't?
frozen radish
autonomous cars will probably be the biggest dip
if theyre ever working well
also will see way less people even bothering to own cars i imagine
since driverless ride share will be so cheap
that would be beautiful but
cities are infrastructure built on infrastructure
its very hard to make them bike centric unless u wipe and start over
feels like a lot of things had to come together for this
You had the historic preservationists fighting against the destruction of the old cities; and then the anarchists imbuing the bicycle with symbolic meaning and political importance; and then Stop de Kindermoord making traffic safety a moral issue for the entire country; and then the Cyclists’ Union becoming engineering nerds and actually changing infrastructure across the country."
not sure
apparently netherlands is also very flat
topographically
i cant see this working everywhere like aus for instance
stark prawn
yeah our highest point is only just over 300 meters
frozen radish
The Vaalserberg (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈvaːlsərˌbɛr(ə)x]) is a hill with a height of 322.4 metres (1,058 ft) above NAP and is the highest point in the European part of the Netherlands.
holy shit lmao
so uh is hiking not a thing there?
young shoal
so uh is hiking not a thing there?
bro it's just walking 💀💀
frozen radish
well yes but people usually hike up something
young shoal
that's why I'm saying it's just walking
frozen radish
i mean if the topography is very flat then do those places to hike even exist
the author of wealth of nations
interesting how it all comes together
and u end up with a bicycle country
its a lotta things which eventually snowball
culturally yea apparenltly they smashed tf out of cars lmao
and the reaction to kids being hit was taken very seriously
"stop the child murder"
torpid hare
by what people?
if all people with the power to do it, they can catch all child killers
patent girder
I don't think so, I think you can't catch everyone even if you put insane resources into it
But you could catch many
torpid hare
in my opinion don't need insane resources on it
try to think on my perpsective, jeffrey epstein for example
glossy niche
in my opinion don't need insane resources on it
people will jump out and defend people who abuse children, i wish it was that simple
torpid hare
people will jump out and defend people who abuse children, i wish it was that s...
yeah, I know
I don't know how they called that people, but they are kind off
glossy niche
i have a relative who worked in an INGO, she told me about children in syria who didnt know the word for meat because they never went to school and never had proper food all their lives, yet we have people who will defend the people who did that to them and people who will go in protests against refugees entering their country to escape death and suffering
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jeffrey epson is the last of the worlds problems
glossy niche
torpid hare
I know that here are programmers that do stuff like make you device "spy" on you, but for the good
I have mixed feelings about it
lethal pebble
Yeah it was me, just had my first week at OpenAI 😄
torpid hare
Yeah it was me, just had my first week at OpenAI 😄
could you talk about it?
patent girder
Yeah it was me, just had my first week at OpenAI 😄
Nice, nice
I hope you enjoyed it!
lethal pebble
Well certain things of course, and a lot of it is confidential 🤐
So far I'm really loving it, the people, the culture, the tech, the offices, it's all been amazing
acoustic moss
oh damn
dim pivot
Yeah it was me, just had my first week at OpenAI 😄
Nice! I hope you'll enjoy your time there!
green pelican
Well certain things of course, and a lot of it is confidential 🤐
hey wanna lmk where the training data comes from 😈 😏
i wont tell anyone i promise
lethal pebble
You made me curious so I just read all about it, but I'll never tell!
patent girder
wooow the flex
green pelican
😐
tulip falcon
hey wanna lmk where the training data comes from 😈 😏
They yoinked that shit from the internet /hj
vale verge
@tulip forum you probably didn't set the encoding to utf-8 like was suggested
#1271951897024008197 message
note that the error still comes from cp1252.py suggesting you're still using that encoding instead of utf8
I don't see any reason to use any encoding other than utf8 for text, you shouldn't need to resort to using only basic characters
brittle void
https://designer.microsoft.com/ oooh look at this
avg ms white knight
bro, r u getting paid for this?
thick ore
No
brittle void
!rule promotion
royal lakeBOT
brittle void
hhuh
thick ore
i am in no way associated nor affiliated with Microsoft©️
thick ore
pydis' infra probably depends on microsoft's stuff anyway
hybrid root
https://designer.microsoft.com/ oooh look at this
if the home page is anything to go off of it's nothing but more ai shilling
bleak lintel
pydis' infra probably depends on microsoft's stuff anyway
✖️
thick ore
Proof
thick ore
well im sure at least one of them depends on a microsoft project
like typescript or C# maybe
harsh tundra
Bought by Microsoft
Also can't say infra "depends" on gh when you can quickly move the repo to any hosting quickly
undone fog
def textScrape(driver):
i = 0
while i < 1:
pDiv = driver.find_element(By.CSS_SELECTOR,"div.mw-content-ltr.mw-parser-output")
time.sleep(3)
paragraphs = pDiv.find_elements(By.TAG_NAME,'p')
pTexts = []
for p in paragraphs:
text = p.text
pTexts.append(text)
for text in pTexts:
print(text)
return pTexts
def outputTextScrape(pTexts):
outputName = input("What would you like the text scrape output file to be called?")
file = open(outputName,"w")
for paragraph in range(pTexts):
file.write(f"\n {paragraph}")
file.close()
trying to output all the info into a new file how would you all go abut it? ```i put it as off topic because it has selenium and for som ereason the tends to not get me help
in the python help
brittle void
i put it as off topic because it has selenium and for som ereason the tends to n...
whats the issue in this code?
undone fog
thats what im trying to figure out
brittle void
is it working as intended?
undone fog
i got it to make the file
but i cant seem to get the iteration or something right
when sliding thru the info
with the list
brittle void
so whats the actual issue u have here?
undone fog
the info from ptexts isnt going into the file
brittle void
whats the content in the file after the program is finished?
undone fog
empty
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "<stdin>", line 9, in main
File "<stdin>", line 4, in outputTextScrape
TypeError: 'list' object cannot be interpreted as an integer
brittle void
full error traceback pls
brittle void
post the full error message of that program that u got when u ran it
brittle void
```PY
def textScrape(driver):
i = 0
while i < 1:
pDiv = driver...
whats the value of pTexts here in the outputTextScrape function?
oh wait
so, is this the code u have rn?
>>> def outputTextScrape(pTexts):
... outputName = input("What would you like the text scrape output file to be called?")
... file = open(outputName,"w")
... for paragraph in range(pTexts):
... paragraph = str(paragraph)
... file.write(f"\n {pTexts[paragraph]}")
... file.close()
wait wdym the code i have?
brittle void
is that the code u have right now?
and u didn't edit anything in that?
if yes, then u dont need to even iterate the pTexts list to write its contents to the file
undone fog
as of rn
how come?
it wont come out weird?
sorry just trying to understand
i cant do it it says
What would you like the text scrape output file to be called?chips
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "<stdin>", line 9, in main
File "<stdin>", line 6, in outputTextScrape
TypeError: write() argument must be str, not list
Attempting to use a delegate that only supports static-sized tensors with a graph that has dynamic-sized tensors (tensor#58 is a dynamic-sized tensor).
brittle void
instead of something like this
file = open(outputName,"w")
for paragraph in range(pTexts):
paragraph = str(paragraph)
file.write(f"\n {pTexts[paragraph]}")
file.close()
u do this
with open(outputName,"w") as file:
file.write('\n'.join(pTexts))
the with statement here will assign the return value of open(outputName,"w") into the variable file and it make sure the file is closed at the end of the operation
doesn't matter if any errors occurred inside that with block
and also, this part -> '\n'.join(pTexts)
this just joins every string value from pTexts list by putting '\n' string in between each of those strings
so its a one giant string, sent to the .write method, instead of in a loop
undone fog
is ee
i see*
ur method makes more sense
but instead of using join like that
how could i make them seperate instead of one big string
i want to be able to iterate through each paragraph
brittle void
i want to be able to iterate through each paragraph
those paragraphs are joined by a new line
you can split the file's content by newline while you are reading from it
so its just a single string in the code, but by the content, its easily distinguishable as separate paragraphs
undone fog
def outputTextScrape(pTexts):
outputName = input("What would you like the text scrape output file to be called?")
with open(outputName,"w") as file:
for paragraph in pTexts:
file.write(paragraph+"\n")
i see i was gonna try this but its messing up a lil so lemen try ur way
ur a god wtfd
it worked
brittle void
good, any more issues?
undone fog
well a slight sometimes not all of it goes in but i cann figure that one
brittle void
so u mean the file contents are over written or smth?
u can use the append mode in that case
bleak lintel
github is an ms project
there is a difference between depends on and uses
we could use any git provider and be a-okay
i don't think we use any typescript anywhere other than maybe forms and the ops site
oh pixels modsite is also technically TS
but still non-critical projects
all our core and critical services run mostly FOSS software, site is django in kubernetes behind NGINX
new authorization system is LDAP provided by FreeIPA with a translation layer provided by Keycloak
i will fight to the death that we do not depend on microsoft or microsoft software
thick osprey
there is a difference between depends on and uses
I think you won the fight on the opening shot quite succinctly and accurately.
thick osprey
And the comment stood for all time. 
Anyone use, or have used, Gateron switches for their keyboard. Considering a new keyboard but the switch choices are limited unless I want to wait an extra six months for custom build time.
uneven pine
They're just knockoff cherry mx
They're fine
Not really any worse or better
I'm all in on optical switches now, I think gateron might even have some of those these days
thick osprey
I have an out-of-box choice of Gateron Browns or Kailh quite pinks. The pinks just look way too light for my mitts. The browns are only 10 grams of force less than my favorite, cherry clears. Tactile bump, no click. 
oh, cherry clears aren't even available with a custom build. Well, that's that. gateron browns it is.
rough sapphire
Lego skibidi toilet cameraman drone
acoustic moss
what the fuck
rough sapphire
why
glossy niche
skibidi toilet is the downfall of modern art
we had amazing SFM shit posts and tasteful brain rot and it ruined everything
pure phoenix
skibidi toilet is the downfall of modern art
nooooo have you seen the skibidi toilet plot its so deeep
it enhanced shitposting
frozen radish
is this like an official one
u deadass asked this 🧐
pure phoenix
what's a deadass
lunar shore
what's a deadass
It means "actually"
Anyway
Guys do CPUs handle mutltasking by running processes in batch? So like, let's say I have firefox and discord both open. Does it work like:
### BATCH 1
Render Firefox
Render Discord
### BATCH 2
Check for notifications (Firefox)
Check for notifications (Discord)
### BATCH 3
Check for key presses (Firefox)
Check for key presses (Discord)
.
.
.
?
young shoal
no, CPU doesn't really have that granularity
tulip falcon
Operating system
lunar shore
Operating system
Well, I meant how does it do it in a lower level view?
hybrid root
this is a good video on it I think
https://youtu.be/3X93PnKRNUo?si=FLXn_0hEbvpYe254
around the 10:47 part, but you might need context from before
tulip falcon
Well, I meant how does it do it in a lower level view?
shared resources like CPU time are arbitrated by the OS. I think the concurrency of multiple programs is handled with scheduling algorithms. We have things like process affinity and multi core systems to take into account, idk how multi changes things
lunar shore
shared resources like CPU time are arbitrated by the OS. I think the concurrency...
What is process affinity?
And "multi"?
young shoal
How can I run Firefox and Discord simultaniously?
the os lets a program run for some time, then interrupts it, then runs another
if you have multiple CPU, you can have multiple programs running at the same time
lunar shore
the os lets a program run for some time, then interrupts it, then runs another
hmmm, does that time reduce when I have more processes running?
lunar shore
if you have multiple CPU, you can have multiple programs running at the same tim...
oooo, do multi-core CPUs count as multiple CPUs?
young shoal
it could, I guess. but I don't think it does
lunar shore
it could, I guess. but I don't think it does
Ah so if I have like 1000 programs open, they will slow down each other?
young shoal
oooo, do multi-core CPUs count as multiple CPUs?
yeah the terminology is all over the place, but multiple cores does the same thing
lunar shore
yeah the terminology is all over the place, but multiple cores does the same thi...
I see
Yeah I see
young shoal
Ah so if I have like 1000 programs open, they will slow down each other?
probably
lunar shore
probably
Ah
But like
Why do some programs slow down the entire computer. Like I can have 2 applications open, One being android studio and one being like, IntelliJ IDEA. Yes, they are heavy programs in general, but doesn't my CPU run them at predefined times? Like run each of them for x ticks/seconds or smth? Why do they slow down my computer then?
What I'm saying is, why isn't quantity the only thing that matters
So they just fill my RAM up? But they would slow down my computer even with like 128 GBs of RAM
Hmmm how so
But what if it doesn't bottleneck
solemn tulip
your operating system is also one of the things that fights for compute time
solemn tulip
presumably IDEs also run a bunch of threads
tulip falcon
So they just fill my RAM up? But they would slow down my computer even with like...
If your ram is completely full then things might be in swap, which is orders of magnitude slower to pull back into ram
young shoal
presumably IDEs also run a bunch of threads
especially if they're doing indexing and other shenanigans like intellij
lunar shore
presumably IDEs also run a bunch of threads
Right. But I could open 10,000 instances of CMD and still not lag, and I think that number is higher than the threads that intelliJ + Android Studio would run in combination
lunar shore
If your ram is completely full then things might be in swap, which is orders of ...
Ah so my OS just uses my hard drive as a RAM
solemn tulip
idk if cmd does that much work when idle
lunar shore
It is a thread tho
What I want to know is, why isn't Quantity the only thing that matters?
Like why can 2 programs overwhelm my CPU, while 10,000 might not
It is running a command tho
There is time my CPU is spending on running something
Hmm
But still
even then
That's not the point
I meant like
Ugh
Let's say
tulip falcon
Yea that's what I'm thinking, something like CPU bound tasks in regular programming threading. I'll look into it more one day.
lunar shore
I open 30 notepad instances
There are more threads than intelliJ and Android studio, presumably?
solemn tulip
do they do work?
lunar shore
do they do work?
Hm
But like
IntelliJ/Android studio don't work either when I don't use them right?
They STILL slow down my computer
young shoal
they are doing background tasks, like indexing, garbage collection, code analysis, or whatever. downloading updates
solemn tulip
they likely do a bunch of work
lunar shore
Hmmm I see
So if those 30 notepad instances did use my CPU, they would have the same effect of IntelliJ and Android Studio lagging my PC?
Isn't only the quantity of tasks important?
I mean, heavier tasks take more time, but they use my CPU as much as a lighter task
right?
There are so many concepts I'm searching right now LMAO my brain is being overwhelmed
Hmm
Hmmmmm
So it will load both the contents in the ifs body and the elses body?
wdym by "branch" here
young shoal
modern CPUs have a lot of optimizations. they're talking about branch prediction, but it's not too relevant for the current topic
lunar shore
Ah just the body
lunar shore
modern CPUs have a lot of optimizations. they're talking about branch prediction...
I see
Yeah we're not talking about the optimization
Hmm
young shoal
not really? it's an optimization
lunar shore
I'm just asking about like lower-level stuff, how the CPU handles mutliple programs. I believe concurrency existed far before the branch prediction thing
Eh, one more thing to learn anyway lol
I know nothing of computers and it's annoying me 💀
patent girder
computers are very complex machines, it takes a lot of time to learn how they work
keep learning and you'll get there
lunar shore
computers are very complex machines, it takes a lot of time to learn how they wo...
Yeah, and even if I learn about how they work, I will always miss some details, cause I was not born in the time to have to mess with a CPU and see the new CPUs and the changes they made
lunar shore
keep learning and you'll get there
fr fr I hope so 🙏
thank you
young shoal
branch prediction is not relevant to how an OS kernel is dealing with concurrent processes
lunar shore
branch prediction is not relevant to how an OS kernel is dealing with concurrent...
Yeah, but I just got introduced to more topics i was unfamiliar with
Look somewhere else in the memory in the same process?
idk
solemn tulip
"oh shit, this part of memory is not in this level of cache, let me fetch from next level"
young shoal
if you needed to context switch every time you needed to read from RAM, you would have a bad time
tulip falcon
I know nothing of computers and it's annoying me 💀
They just posted a new course about operating systems on freecodecamp. No idea of its quality
solemn tulip
can it context switch while waiting for a read?
solemn tulip
it doesn't
young shoal
ram takes microseconds, a context switch is in milliseconds
solemn tulip
a context switch is probably in the order of 1000 cycles
solemn tulip
ram takes microseconds, a context switch is in milliseconds
that feels off
young shoal
err. not a context switch, but a time slice
young shoal
hmm . yeah i think it might be like 200ns
solemn tulip
main memory reference ~100ns
lunar shore
They just posted a new course about operating systems on freecodecamp. No idea o...
I'm currently following a course about computers
solemn tulip
let me check that one latency table...
this is a version of the thing
https://gist.github.com/jboner/2841832
lunar shore
Man huggingface's chat AI is so good wtf
Is the amount of memory programs need allocated at the start and stays that way? Or can the program request more memory to be accessed later?
thick ore
on most OSes, memory is only allocated when you try to use it
solemn tulip
this is a version of the thing
https://gist.github.com/jboner/2841832
oh sweet, found a related thing
https://github.com/sirupsen/napkin-math
young shoal
Is the amount of memory programs need allocated at the start and stays that way?...
you have some amount allocated, then if you need more, you can get more allocated
lunar shore
on most OSes, memory is only allocated when you try to use it
Hmmm I see
solemn tulip
context switch ~10μs
Sequential SSD read (8 KiB) 1 μs
so a context switch seems to be slower than even ssd access
lunar shore
you have some amount allocated, then if you need more, you can get more allocate...
Ooo. So let's say I write a program that allocates 1 megabyte of memory at the start, waits 1 second, and allocates 1 extra megabyte of memory, then halts after a while. Does the OS calculate the entire memory needed and allocate 2 MB at the start, or does it allocate 1 mb, then wait till the program requests more?
solemn tulip
context switch ~10μs
Sequential SSD read (8 KiB) 1 μs
so a context switch s...
and ram is orders of magnitude faster than that
young shoal
Ooo. So let's say I write a program that allocates 1 megabyte of memory at the s...
it can't know how much memory is needed in advance
lunar shore
Is virtual memory all the software's doing?
young shoal
it doesn't matter?
lunar shore
the kernel and some hardware
So there is hardware that manages the virtual memory?
young shoal
So there is hardware that manages the virtual memory?
kinda, since you could do it all using software. but hardware optimizations are needed to make it usable (the TLB)
lunar shore
kinda, since you could do it all using software. but hardware optimizations are ...
(The TLB?)
Hmmm, so it is implemented in the software in the end
solemn tulip
the cache doesn't matter much if you hit RAM, no?
young shoal
(The TLB?)
Hmmm, so it is implemented in the software in the end
translation lookaside buffer. basically a cache
solemn tulip
and that particular number wasn't even RAM, it was disk
lunar shore
translation lookaside buffer. basically a cache
hmmm ic
solemn tulip
or do you mean the time for the context switch?
it's probably accurate within an order of magnitude
solemn tulip
or do you mean the time for the context switch?
which can be fast or slow depending on context
compared to ram access it's quite slow
compared to a network call or reading from an hdd it's pretty fast
solemn tulip
compared to ram access it's quite slow
(and ram access is very slow compared to L1 cache access)
young shoal
i think they're working on it
solemn tulip
always have been
sometimes ways of speeding up computations have fun side effects
like spectre
lunar shore
Is it bad to use AI (Llama/GPT/Mixtral) to get some general information about something? Or make something easier to understand?
vale raven
Is it bad to use AI (Llama/GPT/Mixtral) to get some general information about so...
It depends on how much experience you have.
For someone that just started learning Python, it's very bad, because when AI gives them the wrong answer, they won't be able to understand why and won't understand how to get information about fixing it.
But for someone with several years of experience, they would be able to debug the error and understand the cause and get more information about it much more quickly.
lunar shore
It depends on how much experience you have.
For someone that just started learni...
I'm pretty decent in programming but what if I want guide on something I am trying to learn, like system programming or just generally how computers work? I didn't know what a cache miss is, I didn't understand many websites explaining it, but when AI explained it to me, I understood it pretty well. But I'm worried to learn something wrong and it's really hard to unlearn it afterward, especially if it's a base concept that I'm gonna build knowledge on
dim pivot
I'm pretty *decent* in programming but what if I want guide on something I am tr...
In this particular case, if LLM successful taught you what it means, you should now be able to understand what the websites is saying
lunar shore
In this particular case, if LLM successful taught you what it means, you should ...
Oooo now that is a good usecase
dim pivot
I would argue Wikipedia is pretty good nowadays
Although Wikipedia makes stuff more complicated than they need to be
lunar shore
Wikipedia is a low-quality resource?
Yes, the history/politics is pretty biased at times. But the scientifical stuff is pretty solid I believe
dim pivot
Yeah that's fair enough
lunar shore
yeah that's definitely not low quality
Books are just too big if you don't understand a concept or two
late orchid
s/research papers/peer reviewed research papers
lunar shore
and research papers might have a lot of prereq
lunar shore
`s/research papers/peer reviewed research papers`
NeoVim?
late orchid
send foo as a message, then send s/foo/bar
it'll edit the message and turn into bar
lunar shore
I don't understand
You can substitude your last message
s/search something/replace something
is it regex???
dim pivot
test
stark prawn
no
dim pivot
s/testing
stark prawn
s/old/new
stark prawn
test
stark prawn
s/st/ts
dim pivot
Ohhhhh
lunar shore
like this?
yep
dim pivot
I see
lunar shore
Hello I am gonna idk now
dim pivot
very useful fr :ducky_sus: ?
lunar shore
very useful fr :ducky_sus: ?
Not when you wrote like a long explanation and you had a typo and kept on doing it
dim pivot
Emoji is broken it seems like
lunar shore
This is beautiful, I am beautiful/g, you are beutiful
damn no global?
g/n/m
sg/g
sad
dim pivot
I am very much confused
lunar shore
<:yert:832277526809149461> I am very much confused
I'm trying to change every search result
So like chsnging every a with s
dim pivot
I understand
lunar shore
it changes one only
dim pivot
But doesn't seem to work
lunar shore
yeah sad
rough sapphire
foo
jaunty wraith
Microsoft Edge /s
rough sapphire
i just use my web browser
rough sapphire
on linux i use zathura
wicked haven
rough sapphire
i guess? i just searched up "pdf reader linux" and clicked the first result
uneven pine
I've never had an issue even with large PDFs on edge
green pelican
firefox woks fine also
lunar shore
damn
lunar shore
Why do you guys learn so much, just to land a normal 9 to 5 job as a web dev or data scientist or smth?
like I see so many knowledgeable people here, but I bet most of that knowledge is not used in a single job
glossy niche
like I see so many knowledgeable people here, but I bet most of that knowledge i...
I learn for fun
lunar shore
I personally use okular
As soon as I saw KDE, I just knew this was gonna be good
lunar shore
I learn for fun
Yeah, fair... But would that really get you anywhere?
glossy niche
As soon as I saw KDE, I just knew this was gonna be good
nahhjh dw this never crashed on me
glossy niche
Yeah, fair... But would that really get you anywhere?
idk and idc
ig it makes me better at sounding smart for interviews
lunar shore
nahhjh dw this never crashed on me
No no I was not being sarcastic, I use KDE software and it's great
glossy niche
ik
lunar shore
ig it makes me better at sounding smart for interviews
Yeah but is that worth all the effort?
patent girder
like I see so many knowledgeable people here, but I bet most of that knowledge i...
I think people who gravitate towards programming tend to like learning
Because programming requires you to learn a lot
And some people say breadth of knowledge is more useful at the start of your career than depth
lunar shore
I also like learning
I enjoy it
however
sometimes I'm just a little worried
I don't wanna work a 9 to 5 my whole life...?
lunar shore
I think people who gravitate towards programming tend to like learning
Because p...
Yeah but still
glossy niche
I'm free this Saturday
lunar shore
we live in this world
we need money to get like anything
and learning alone isn't enough I feel
lunar shore
I'm free this Saturday
Sure, I'm up for that!
tardy rain
What do you wanna work
patent girder
and learning alone isn't enough I feel
You mean isn't enough to make money?
lunar shore
What do you wanna work
I plan on working till I have enough money to maybe just start a company
lunar shore
You mean isn't enough to make money?
Well, to an extent
tardy rain
I plan on working till I have enough money to maybe just start a company
So a 9-5
tardy rain
Nobody wants to work their entire lives
lunar shore
Like we stayed at school till afternoon (9 PM but I just went home a little sooner, at 6 PM), and when I got home, I could only eat dinner, brush my teeth and go to sleep
barely any time to do anything
And a 9 to 5 isn't much different
lunar shore
Nobody wants to work their entire lives
Yeah, but I don't wanna work at a 9 to 5 more than like 4 - 5 years
tardy rain
Work is much much more chill than school
tardy rain
Yeah, but I don't wanna work at a 9 to 5 more than like 4 - 5 years
Well you probably will
If not for the money then for the network
lunar shore
i do enjoy programming and I like working a job like that
but my ideal life would be more passive income than active
glossy niche
a programing job won't be as fun as you imagine
Jobs are things people do not want to do
lunar shore
a programing job won't be as fun as you imagine
Oh then 💀
glossy niche
like, by definition
patent girder
but my ideal life would be more passive income than active
Sounds like you also need to put a decent amount of effort into learning how to run a business
tardy rain
Starting your own company is not passive income bro
glossy niche
I love Programming but hate work
warped sentinel
Starting your company will be the opposite of a 9-5 job
lunar shore
Starting your own company is not passive income bro
It is not a passive income
glossy niche
this guy called Jenkins at work keeps giving me a headache
tardy rain
Chances are it won't
patent girder
Starting your own company is not passive income bro
It's not at first, it can get there eventually, but it is risky
tardy rain
And even if it did it would be years down the line
lunar shore
I can just go to a vacation for a week and no-one can stop me, my company would also keep running
tardy rain
It's not at first, it can get there eventually, but it is risky
You wont ever get there
patent girder
You wont ever get there
Why is that?
glossy niche
passive income is a fancy way to say theft
lunar shore
Starting your company will be the opposite of a 9-5 job
How so
tardy rain
The only way to have a company pay passively is if you get acquired
lunar shore
passive income is a fancy way to say theft
Is YouTube theft?
tardy rain
You will not start a company and have "passive" income in any reasonable time frame
lunar shore
It will be 7 days all day type of job
Well yeah it is difficult AF at first
glossy niche
Is YouTube theft?
look, yo know what I mean
tardy rain
The fastest way to retire early or FIRE is to grind for a high paying job and also job hop every other year
lunar shore
Well yeah it is difficult AF at first
But if it actually gets somewhere, even a little bit, you would make a LOT more money than like any regular 9 to 5, and you would actually be less worried about any technical stuff and somebody setting deadlines for you
lunar shore
💀
patent girder
The only way to have a company pay passively is if you get acquired
Maybe we're using different definitions of the word "company"
You could make courses and market them for example, if you become successful, after let's say 10 years you could probably get away with working less than an average 9-5
lunar shore
Work is much much more chill than school
How would you say this and still say "nobody likes to work"
I'm not a person who spends all my life wasting time and having fun etc. etc.
But I really wanna have more time for myself
a 9 to 5 is just too little time for myself
tardy rain
Maybe we're using different definitions of the word "company"
You could make cou...
This is even harder than starting a traditional company lol
tardy rain
How would you say this and still say "nobody likes to work"
Not what i said
tardy rain
Nobody wants to work their entire lives
.
lunar shore
considering you sleep at like 11 - 12 PM, you literally only have 6 hours of time to do what you want, 1 hour is spent on the way there and back, probably 1 hour to take a shower/regular routine/dinner and then you have 4 hours to do something :/
tardy rain
9-5 is the most free time you will get while having a career
If you wanted more you should have been born into money
Go back in time
glossy niche
Work is much much more chill than school
nuh uh hh
I pay to be in school
I get paid to be at work
lunar shore
maybe I should just write a time machine in Python
glossy niche
school has incentive to be attractive
tardy rain
I get paid to be at work
So, you agree?
glossy niche
work has incentive to make my life hell
patent girder
I think the best way to "get there" is to try to have an income stream that has a good potential to turn passive alongside a normal job so later in life you can work part-time if you wish
This way you work more but it's less risky
glossy niche
So, you agree?
no
lunar shore
I took general purpose wholeheartedly
glossy niche
tardy rain
Let me give you a peek into my day today at my 9-5
warped sentinel
I get paid to be at work
So you are saying you enjoy school so much that you want to pay, while people have to pay you as an incentive to work
lunar shore
Man
lunar shore
Peak life is -0.75 -> 25 years old
glossy niche
So you are saying you enjoy school so much that you want to pay, while people ha...
I agree with the latter but not the former
lunar shore
after that it's just shitty
glossy niche
13:00-17:30 chill on couch but with fan on me
it was like that in school for me lol
I skipped class, went to contests, made stupid projects
lunar shore
13:00-17:30 chill on couch but with fan on me
💀
glossy niche
it was fun
lunar shore
also
warped sentinel
after that it's just shitty
have you reached 25 yet?
glossy niche
meanwhile work just kills 8 hours a day
lunar shore
have you reached 25 yet?
I have 7 more years to go
patent girder
Peak life is -0.75 -> 25 years old
Hard disagree, I'd say my life only started in my mid twenties
glossy niche
obv this is subjective
warped sentinel
I have 7 more years to go
ah that explains a lot
lunar shore
man
I don't wanna be that guy
but not having to worry about taxes and money and income and all that shit
glossy niche
can u have a recursive constructor
lunar shore
Hard disagree, I'd say my life only started in my mid twenties
idkkkk
warped sentinel
but not having to worry about taxes and money and income and all that shit
if you make enough, none of these matter
glossy niche
@warped sentinel have u ever tried make an error class with a recursive constructor
soryd this just came to me
warped sentinel
<@605238396339879956> have u ever tried make an error class with a recursive con...
I tried but it only errors out
I specialize in recursive errors
lunar shore
if you make enough, none of these matter
Yeah but then 70% of my day is gone on a job, and I'm too tired to do anything at home
warped sentinel
not recursive success
lunar shore
plus I don't wanna get fat
glossy niche
I tried but it only errors out
mission failed unsuccessfully
patent girder
but not having to worry about taxes and money and income and all that shit
It's not really that big of a deal
You work, you get paid, you pay some of it to the government, you spend the rest on the things you need
And if you are going for a software development job, you will not have to worry about not having enough money for daily necessities
warped sentinel
Yeah but then 70% of my day is gone on a job, and I'm too tired to do anything a...
if you are gonna spend 70% of your day in a job, might as well do it in a job which pays well and doesn't strain your body
glossy niche
if you are gonna spend 70% of your day in a job, might as well do it in a job wh...
I agree tbh, Jobs suck the fun out of whatever ur doing
lunar shore
It's not really that big of a deal
You work, you get paid, you pay some of it to...
I mean programmers in general are well-paid
But what if I just want more life than work
patent girder
Peak life is 27-35
Eh, that's still early
glossy niche
Peak life is 27-35
old man advice
lunar shore
Peak life is 27-35
how so
glossy niche
yall telling me shit gets better?
lunar shore
yall telling me shit gets better?
I also wonder
warped sentinel
I agree tbh, Jobs suck the fun out of whatever ur doing
do a job that you enjoy as well
tardy rain
yall telling me shit gets better?
Arent you a boomer
tardy rain
😭😭😭
lunar shore
do a job that you enjoy as well
You could enjoy something SOO MUCH, and still hate it when somebody sets a deadline/you do it so much everyday
I experienced that with school kinda
warped sentinel
You could enjoy something SOO MUCH, and still hate it when somebody sets a deadl...
that's a lack of growth mindset
glossy niche
Arent you a boomer
I am 22
tardy rain
It varies with the workplace
lunar shore
I love math, I enjoy learning about math, doing math tests. But in the last year of school, I was just SICK of it
lunar shore
I did so many tests that it seemed boring if anything
but that might be because I wasn't learning, but strengthening what I learned
patent girder
I did so many tests that it seemed boring if anything
If it's boring, it's possible that it was too much of the same thing instead of something challenging
glossy niche
Is that gandalf
no that is me
lunar shore
If it's boring, it's possible that it was too much of the same thing instead of ...
There were challenging tests between those, but still, even those didn't give me the feeling of accomplishment I used to get from doing them
They had me thinking for like 20 - 30 minutes sometimes
and it was just a test
patent girder
But even if you only enjoy some parts of your job, it's then less like "40 hours I spend at work" and more like "35 hours I spend at work and 5 hours I enjoy", so you "live" more in a sense
lunar shore
hmm that is a take igg
tardy rain
Just get a remote job bruv
glossy niche
I spent an hour configuring my neovim at work today
tardy rain
They exist
glossy niche
👍
lunar shore
I spent an hour configuring my neovim at work today
now I see why people like wasting their time with NeoVim
patent girder
lol
lunar shore
Took me like 4 days to understand how shit works and setting up an LSP/autocomplete took me 2 extra days 💀
glossy niche
now I see why people like wasting their time with NeoVim
nah fuck that I'm gonna switch to vsc lmao
lunar shore
and I REALLY wasted my time
lunar shore
idk maybe I'm just too young
Maybe I don't have experience and that's why I'm just panicking or smth lol
tardy rain
Get good grades, get high power 6 fig job, work for like 10 years then retire
lunar shore
I like Software Engineering, like idk, working at JetBrains or VSCode or smth
but I also like web dev to some degree
but then I also like the math behind AI
data analysis etc.
maybe that is also confusing me
lunar shore
Get good grades, get high power 6 fig job, work for like 10 years then retire
So like... 27 - 37 working and then retiring?
tardy rain
27?
lunar shore
idk man recently my thoughts have been all over the place
tardy rain
You can join the workforce in early 20s
lunar shore
You can join the workforce in early 20s
Oh I can?
The local jobs here usually don't accept 25 and below
at least the web dev ones
for some reason
patent girder
a lot of people finish their degrees in early 20s
tawny herald
The local jobs here usually don't accept 25 and below
if u have the enough talent u will
lunar shore
Why are there age reqs
idk stupid people, stupid country
lunar shore
if u have the enough talent u will
They literally require you to show them proof of your age
before even testing your skills
lunar shore
Time to leave then
Trying to get scholarship somehow, or maybe just a remote job, idk
tawny herald
They literally require you to show them proof of your age
like u shpuld be 25+?
lunar shore
like u shpuld be 25+?
yep
lunar shore
can i ask where do u live ?
Iran
patent girder
The local jobs here usually don't accept 25 and below
Do people actually not get accepted or are those just "job requirements"? Because you don't have to fit job requirements 100%, those are listing the "ideal candidate", sometimes they hire people who only fit them 50% or 70%
lunar shore
I was checking many websites with job listings
(web dev specifically)
and all of them had this shitty age req
lunar shore
Do people actually not get accepted or are those just "job requirements"? Becaus...
Is that so?
patent girder
Have you talked to any college grads below 25 to see if those reqs are real or bullshit?
lunar shore
idk maybe that's how it is but yeah the job reqs included that age limit
patent girder
Is that so?
That's how it usually is.
lunar shore
Have you talked to any college grads below 25 to see if those reqs are real or b...
I don't know anyone
I'll know in like 40 days
lol
patent girder
Good luck!
lunar shore
hehe thanks
I have no idea how university works
highschool had me studying like a mole in a hole
A lot of my knowledge is rusty now because of that
English, Programming, SOCIAL SKILLS FFS
But yeah anyway
I'll see what life has to offer
soon enough
patent girder
👍
lunar shore
Thanks y'all for the wisdom
Here, the job reqs are insane
There are like MANY other ones
but they are in Persian
this one was the only English one I found
or this one
idk why they set age reqs lol
there are intern jobs
granite tree
https://i.imgur.com/fYPdTYO.png
That's quite a ridiculous list of requirements
lunar shore
That's quite a ridiculous list of requirements
The job title translates into Java Software Engineer
granite tree
Maybe it's a resume honey pot
lunar shore
yeah crazy stuff
uneven pine
Why doesn't the job allow for nonbinary applicants
uneven pine
Oh no
granite tree
Seems silly to specify gender anyway, are there male only jobs where women can't apply?
granite tree
Irrespective of non binary, is it like: must be human?
uneven pine
If it's illegal to be non-binary, I'm sure there are plenty of discriminatory jobs
Sounds like the middle east to me
lunar shore
Sounds like the middle east to me
Iran, specifically
uneven pine
I'd bet there are plenty
lunar shore
tho it's in Persian
lunar shore
I'd bet there are plenty
Nah all of them are just Men/Women
but I found one that needs only men
lunar shore
oh
uneven pine
Someone give Google me typing data back please I beg
I made such a mistake by clearing my typing data 😭
lunar shore
people aren't mysoginist here, like really. but companies might be a little more gravitated towards men ig
lunar shore
Someone give Google me typing data back please I beg
💀
uneven pine
Really? I'm kinda surprised
lunar shore
yeah people are not feminist OR mysoginist
but again
the government is
not trying to be political here
but yeah
lunar shore
https://i.imgur.com/fYPdTYO.png
Just to clarify, this job pays 70 million - 100 million (in our currency)
which in turn translates into around 1400 dollars monthly
and it is the highest paying job on the site, probably
wait there's another one going up to 2250
lunar shore
Is BMP essentially the WAV equivalent to images?
spice storm
ive tried to make it rlly rlly "bug free"
@plucky stratus
ive used key bindings, a lott of functions to properly make the widgets work as they do in real softwares
even tho this has nothing to do with the user interface or wtv my project is about, ill add a dev tools kinda tab/window/section and add this in there to flex obviously coz why the hell not, i think its pretty cool
works just like the mysql terminal
patent girder
what is this made in?
spice storm
but thats way more complex
spice storm
what is this made in?
python, tkinter and customtkiner as libraries. and then ive connected mysql with it for databases
patent girder
oh, cool
vocal whale
@rough sapphire
vocal whale
<@456226577798135808>
Astelown?
wise oriole
Should I KMS, 905 code lines 💀
Technical debt gonna be wild
tardy rain
If you got rid of the pointless comments it'd be fewer lines
wise oriole
If you got rid of the pointless comments it'd be fewer lines
They are for future me
tardy rain
Banners about imports and global variables are useless
Will you not know what an import line does in the future?
wise oriole
Banners about imports and global variables are useless
True, but they look cool
tardy rain
Not really
wise oriole
Not really
But the App class is still 842 lines
Like theres only 62 lines until it starts
And I did that in one day (i slept 5 hours)
Please send help
FR
fading seal
thick ore
Should I KMS, 905 code lines 💀
Technical debt gonna be wild
split your code into multiple files
i believe that should be obvious
wise oriole
split your code into multiple files
Its only the interface of my app, not splittable because its all in one class and all functions use the class variables
thick ore
Its only the interface of my app, not splittable because its all in one class an...
who said that couldn't be refactored
it sounds like you have a god object
from what I can see, your App class could probably be split into WorkspaceManager, ConfigManager, etc
also why are you prefixing your methods with __ and naming your modules like __xyz__
soft violet
it sounds like you have a [god object](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_object)
First time I'm hearing of this. I like that it has a name.
opal trout
First time I'm hearing of this. I like that it has a name.
I cracked up reading all-knowing object
thick ore
my religion is based on dtar's app class
opal trout
the church of App
wise oriole
my religion is based on dtar's app class
Thanks for the YT vid idea, title will be "I accidentally made a new Religion"
wise oriole
also why are you prefixing your methods with `__` and naming your modules like `...
Which modules? you mean __errors__ and __vars__
solemn tulip
from what I can see, your `App` class could probably be split into `WorkspaceMan...
yeah, split into workspace, config, github, ...
wise oriole
yeah, split into workspace, config, github, ...
Github is already on another class, the functions that mention github inside this class are for API configurations that will be later loaded ir to initiate a GitHub object
outer sundial
@slim hill It's always silly when help channels close as I'm typing. https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1273010474711252992
Looking at the docs for matthews_corrcoef, it looks like as an input it only accepts a value between -1 and 1. Looking at the docs for predict, it's not obvious to me that predict's output is constrained to that range. If it doesn't, then that would explain why it says your make_scorer doesn't work.
slim hill
<@291307434427940865> It's always silly when help channels close as I'm typing. ...
wtf really
alright I’ll look into this
vocal whale
@morgana84
slim hill
<@291307434427940865> It's always silly when help channels close as I'm typing. ...
the issue seemed to be something with an extra parameter I added that wasn't supposed to be there
kind of annoying because I wouldn't have found that out from the errors I was getting
outer sundial
Yeah, that is definitely a subpar error message. Glad you found it 👍
thick ore
Which modules? you mean `__errors__` and `__vars__`
yes
idt you should be naming them that way
tulip falcon
idt you should be naming them that way
I think that's if you want them to get name mangled
thick ore
why would you want them to be name mangled anyway
tulip falcon
In cooperative subclassing is usage I know of
Name mangle inherited members to avoid diamond problems
Not just inheritance but multiple inheritance 
drowsy flax
Should I KMS, 905 code lines 💀
Technical debt gonna be wild
bro wat tf 💀
rough sapphire
I think that's if you want them to get name mangled
name mangling seems to work for identifiers that start with two (or more) underscores but don't end in two (or more) underscores
toxic sun
rough sapphire
Happy independence day indian brothers and sisters. I made this to celebrate the day
unreal flax
happy independence day, indians
brazen ingot
lunar shore
Any good programming languages I could use to do general projects (other than Python) while also useful for work and getting a job?
Java? JS?
undone thorn
both are useful, albiet for different types of jobs
c++ is also a decent choice if you can stomach it
lunar shore
Isn't C++ explicitly used for game-dev in the industry?
undone thorn
no
lunar shore
I don't see any other jobs for it
undone thorn
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search?keywords=c%2B%2B developer&trk=public_jobs_jobs-search-bar_search-submit&position=1&pageNum=0 I don't think any of these are related to game dev
even the ones for game dev companies might not necessarily be related to game dev
lunar shore
Rockstar games
isn't that a game company?
hmm might be they need Cpp for their clients
but in general
I don't think I'd get any job with C++ like in the next 5 years. It's just too underused
yes there are jobs
but few
(again, except game-dev)
patent girder
do you know SQL? not a programming language but should be useful for jobs
patent girder
I don't know anything about Go tbh
I'm personally planning to go for html/css/JavaScript later, maybe that will get me a better chance for a job
knowing frontend + backend I think would be nice
lunar shore
I also went that path but like
it is kinda boring tbh
the JS part is fun
the back-end and HTML/CSS? Nahhh
I was just trying to learn Java for these stuff
like java has good job opportunities and also you can use it for general projects
but I feel like the environment is too bloated
like the best support you can get with Java is with the IntelliJ IDE. And that is just too many features for me, and too heavy of an application
wise oriole
bro wat tf 💀
Not even largest file ive had to manage
solemn tulip
Not even largest file ive had to manage
I've had to work with a file that has a 1.5k long function 🙃
wise oriole
I've had to work with a file that has a 1.5k long function 🙃
I remember reading a thread in reddit of a guy saying that in one of his jobs they had 1 class per file and each class had only one function and shortest file was 1k lines, when reading that I was like:
1 class per file, ok nice, 1 function per class, wtf, 1k lines of code per file, OK WTF
wise oriole
thank god i use c++
largest c++ file Ive managed was 10.5k so IDK what u talking
Its not bout the language, is bout the what you are doing
drowsy flax
Its not bout the language, is bout the what you are doing
it was supposed to be sarcastic buddy :(
wise oriole
it was supposed to be sarcastic buddy :(
Sorry im acoustic
drowsy flax
Sorry im acoustic
Which programming languages you learned, like beginner to intermediate level
raw kraken
wise oriole
Which programming languages you learned, like beginner to intermediate level
I'm 17, not that experienced, just touched some C++ files for customizing some GIMP features.
I can say I know Python and JavaScript thats it
And I'm learning React and TypeScript (I like more typescript, but its better to learn first JS, cause typescript is just a statically typed version of JS)
And I know a bit of C/C++, C# and Java, C# because I did use Unity once for some game testing but left it appart, C/C++ because I was taught in school last year, and Java because I have done some Minecraft modding stuff
tardy rain
January 2, 1970
drowsy flax
I'm 17, not that experienced, just touched some C++ files for customizing some G...
Proud of you lil bro that's really good
wise oriole
January 2, 1970
Is that your birth date?
wise oriole
Is my JSON test database a bit too large? (its for a test of how much will the database ocupy)
LOL
wise oriole
Is my JSON test database a bit too large? (its for a test of how much will the d...
BTW theres a 1 hiding next to the 2
its just to test database avg size
im just doing a custom-badge view counter because the one that already exists I do not like
rough sapphire
how do i set up a nginx reverse proxy?
rough sapphire
You've mistaken this for a search engine
wait so is www.example.com equal to www.harmonyapp.org or www.harmonyapp.com?
wise oriole
average NeoVim UX:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iVxCy5lXLaA
shell raptor
WiFi on Linux question: I am shopping for a new WiFi adapter that works out of the box on Linux. I came across this one:
https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/adapters/all-series/usb-ac58/
The manufacturer (very helpfully) doesn't list the underlying chip they're using, but the Linux driver says it's RTL8812BU. According to https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/USB_WiFi_Chipsets.md, it should work well without any extra steps, right?
cedar leaf
I wanna buy a laptop for coding and my budget is nearly 45k so please suggest me
rich topaz
@crude dove hey you got a moment? its something important i want to talk about (in dms)
glossy niche
I wanna buy a laptop for coding and my budget is nearly 45k so please suggest me
old think pad with Linux installed on it
rough sapphire
like, 45k usd?
uneven pine
Yikes
frozen crane
@tribal aurora I'm not really sure what you're getting at. there's no way of saying if one person is "better" than another person. and being cis or trans doesn't make you inherently better.
tribal aurora
<@533921087973490698> I'm not really sure what you're getting at. there's no way...
I didn't mean that, sry
frozen crane
I didn't mean that, sry
which part did you not know?
tribal aurora
which part did you not know?
I didn't mean ones generally better than the other
frozen crane
I didn't mean ones generally better than the other
got it. thanks!
@tribal aurora to be clear: if you're suggesting that trans women are better programmers than cis women because trans women are "actually men" (not true) and men are better programmers than woman (also not true), that definitely isn't appropriate.
tribal aurora
<@533921087973490698> to be clear: if you're suggesting that trans women are bet...
i have no idea what cis means, but i was just referring theyre just more interested in programming in my experience
frozen crane
i have no idea what cis means, but i was just referring theyre just more interes...
"cis" means "same side of", as opposed to "trans". Both "cis" and "trans" come from Latin.
It isn't really true that men are more interested in programming than women. Some of the most significant contributions in computer science have been made by women. When I was in university, I was a research assistant for a woman professor, and my current supervisor at a research company is a woman (with a PhD in computer science).
dense tide
<@533921087973490698> to be clear: if you're suggesting that trans women are bet...
this is defiently no where near true, why would gender matter about coding ..
frozen crane
this is defiently no where near true, why would gender matter about coding ..
I know it doesn't.
tribal aurora
"cis" means "same side of", as opposed to "trans". Both "cis" and "trans" come f...
Not that they didn't accomplish nothing or anything, i agree. im saying like men in tech are more than women in tech (75% to 25% or smth)
frozen crane
Not that they didn't accomplish nothing or anything, i agree. im saying like men...
Then why would a man be unable to find a girlfriend who's better at coding than him unless she's trans?
tribal aurora
Then why would a man be unable to find a girlfriend who's better at coding than ...
not that theyre unable too, the first sentence i said was jokingly, im referring to the likelihood there
fervent furnace
Damn u guys made it a whole thing
fervent furnace
<@533921087973490698> I'm not really sure what you're getting at. there's no way...
He could simply mean the representation and not all that sexism or transphobia
Idk what are the statistics but aren't there more transwomen than ciswomen in tech
soft violet
"Excuse me, we're doing a survey, what's in your pants and do you work in tech?"
I think it would be a bit on the nose.
Programming is objectively a sausagefest. It oughtn't be. It doesn't have to be.
fervent furnace
it is what it is
fervent furnace
it is what it is
for a second i thought this is a palindrome
fervent furnace
But what's the point of saying it?
strawman
drowsy rose
maths is so compliacted i feel like if the apocalypse ever happens someone will math so hard the apocalypse ends
soft violet
I think it more likely we are in a slow-roll apocalypse because people have ignored math.
By the time people have stopped ignoring math, math will be saying, "Should have listened. We're boned."
Then math will be thrown out a window because math failed to prevent it.
A new dark age of fear and superstition and doctrine will reign.
uneven pine
We're already there
Pretty sure climate change extrapolates past the point of no return
I don't think there's a chance we change enough to stop the avalanche at this point
strange blade
Well once the apocalypse destroys all the humans, the world may finally be at peace again.
frozen crane
Pretty sure climate change extrapolates past the point of no return
I don't know what sense of "extrapolate" you're using, but we probably can't prevent many of the adverse effects of climate change at this point, no.
tulip falcon
Then why would a man be unable to find a girlfriend who's better at coding than ...
First thing I read when I woke up, wild.
cedar leaf
@rough sapphire no bro it's 45k INR
solemn tulip
for a second i thought this is a palindrome
is it what it is
fervent furnace
is it whahw ti si
lunar shore
Do you guys look for tutorials when you wanna learn something? Or just lookup the docs? Like let's say you wanna learn kivy
would you start from a tutorial/guide?
glossy niche
whatever tutorial can get me a working prototype fastest, even if im just copy pasting
tardy rain
Docs should have small examples so there i guess
glossy niche
and then i start making modifications to the code and reading the docs
lunar shore
whatever tutorial can get me a working prototype fastest, even if im just copy p...
Hmmm cool
glossy niche
i just dont like reading docs when im empty handed and have nothing to apply what i read to
lunar shore
Docs should have small examples so there i guess
Even if it's something like Android Studio or AI stuff (tensorflow, keras, etc.)?
tardy rain
Yes
glossy niche
Even if it's something like Android Studio or AI stuff (tensorflow, keras, etc.)...
AI stuff usually has great docs for most major libs
sklearn docs are goated
lunar shore
i just dont like reading docs when im empty handed and have nothing to apply wha...
Oh I see. So more of a practical approach
that's cool
lunar shore
AI stuff usually has great docs for most major libs
nicee
well I was gonna go for android dev
but idk if I should just watch a tuto or read the docs
tardy rain
React docs starts with a tutorial for tic tac toe
If your docs dont have examples they blow
lunar shore
Ah
I can also just look into other projects I think?
Like obviously people HAVE made some small projects like a tic tac toe game in react native or smth
tardy rain
Sure but that probably wouldnt help if youre just starting
lunar shore
(I'm gonna use Java/Kotlin but yeah)
lunar shore
Sure but that probably wouldnt help if youre just starting
ooo why so
tardy rain
The stuff you see on github is more likely to be more involved than a simple 100line game
Kivy has a pong tutorial
lunar shore
The stuff you see on github is more likely to be more involved than a simple 100...
You're right
damn
tardy rain
I would start with docs or a trusted 3rd party tutorial like the flask megatutorial for flask
tardy rain
Its pretty digestable
lunar shore
(I don't wanna spend time with a tutorial for more than 5 hours, I wanna make projects and learn from them instead 💀 )
tardy rain
That one takes you through most flask features you'll ever use on a flask project
lunar shore
damn
tardy rain
By building a facebook clone (?) idk
lunar shore
So it's more like learning by experience vs. learning from a resource or smth
tardy rain
Yes
lunar shore
I see
tardy rain
Its pretty comprehensive
lunar shore
yeah damn