ot1-perplexing-regexing

[steady jacinth]

yep, if bits can be encoded in base-4

[fresh basalt]

What did you make that with?

[kindred flicker]

I wanted to ask for advice on something. Its python related but not code related. I wanted to know if I should create a repo based on something I was working on. However before I continue I wanted to make sure this is the right place to ask

[lament cairn]

Well having version control for projects is a good idea

[steel cloak]

I am now developing machine learning model from scratch that do interior design automatically.
What kind of models can I use?
How can I make an approach?
I need someone who can collaborate with me.

[latent scaffold]

say again

[wraith hound]

i love how every proof assistant has something for this

sorry in Lean

Admitted in Coq

[latent scaffold]

dare I ask what Coq is

and how it's pronounced

[wraith hound]

it's pronounced how you think it is

it's a theorem prover/proof assistant

although they're renaming it Rocq because of what it sounds like >.>

it's really dumb because it has french origins and is primarily maintained by a french org (inria)

[latent scaffold]

oh yes

[tulip falcon]

It sounds like a chicken 🐔

[crystal spruce]

lean based

[civic pasture]

Hi stick

[crystal spruce]

hello jiggly

[civic pasture]

How's it going

[low chasm]

lol sorry is hilarious

[civic pasture]

OMG it's snowing like crazy here

[crystal spruce]

ok

[brazen ingot]

bruh

[solemn tulip]

that's not helping, so many jokes you can make with rocq and coq 😛

[acoustic moss]

wait theyre renaming it ??

tragic

[gritty zinc]

pathetic

first they came for our cumtrapz, and now they're taking away Coq too

[sterile sapphire]

same bro

i woke up at like 7 something, like outside and saw sm snow

[short trout]

Hey

Does anyone know frm where I can download ethereum dataset ? I downloaded one historical dataset and which I checked feature importance with shap only target value had the maximum weightage rest were all close to 0

[granite tree]

Have you checked Kaggle? https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/kingburrito666/ethereum-historical-data

[short trout]

Yes this dataset I used

I am using that price history one

Should I combine multiple datasets there?

And create one?

[latent scaffold]

say again

[tardy rain]

cumsum

[tulip falcon]

Rocq out now that Coq is out

[lapis gull]

I mean isn't this argument basically symmetry

where you can show an injection between each interval with the first one [0,t], [t, 2t],... [(k-1)t, kt]

[civic pasture]

Snow

Coming to get you

[thick osprey]

@vale raven What magic are you weaving that your chat renders before your nick?

[vale raven]

RTL characters in my name

See my profile

[glossy niche]

yknow

RTL works just fine on desktop

why is mobile so shitass

[vale raven]

Not if you put characters that aren't explicitly LTR

Like numbers

[glossy niche]

oh, those can be fixed with LRM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-to-right_mark

[thick osprey]

My random-use-of-acronym filter had blocked that out. Understandable. Have a great day.

[glossy niche]

lemme see

(كلمة)

works on my end

in their defence, having worked with RTL a lot, it is a pain in the ass

handy resource for anyone working with it: https://rtlstyling.com/posts/rtl-styling#5.-picking-a-bad-rtl-font

[crystal spruce]

again, my problem isn't with the argument for positive or negative k, it's that they have to be treated as separate cases, and I'm looking to see if there's a nicer argument that handles both cases at once

[solemn tulip]

.latex Is this rewrite trivial?
$$\sum_{i \in 0, \ldots, k} \int_0^\tau f(t + i \tau ) \mathrm{d}t$$

[solemn tulip]

if so the result follows immediately

[crystal spruce]

ooh nice

exactly what I was looking for

[solemn tulip]

idk if it's abuse of notation with the 0, ..., k

one could argue it's well defined for negative numbers as well

[young shoal]

why that instead of \sum_{i=0}^k

[solemn tulip]

because that's even more abuse of notation

for k negative

though idk, maybe it's just atypical

[young shoal]

are sums supposed to go up. i guess so 🤔

just go min(0, k) max(0, k) 😩

[solemn tulip]

integrals are fine going in the wrong direction, so why not sums?

though in the sum case there is no sign change 🥴

whatever notation conveys the "for all these specific integers..."

[tulip falcon]

I will be good at math one day

[young shoal]

yeah let me do a for loop 😩

[crystal spruce]

if only there was a nice way to denote "between"

[latent scaffold]

Is that not what piecewise are for?

[crystal spruce]

eh piecewise is kinda not nice imo

either way it's not compact

[fresh basalt]

Just prove the positive and then switch the signs for the negative.

That's how it works right?

[crystal spruce]

that's separating into different cases for negative and positive k

[fresh basalt]

yeah but it's easier than doing both

can't be too different right?

or just say that part is obvious

hand-wave

[fresh basalt]

Sorry I was making a stupid joke.

customarily would you write like i \elem 0, 1, ..., k?

so there were three terms plus the ...?

or \in I forget which one that is

[crystal spruce]

yeah 0...k is probably the best way to do it

[fresh basalt]

I think 0...k would look nicest.

What class is this for?

I think the last time I did any mathematical proof was 15+ years ago.

[crystal spruce]

not for any class

just doing some integrals for fun, and this is the second time I've needed this result so i figured it'd be good to write up a proof of it

[fresh basalt]

oh neat

[jovial oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-geese-baby-goose-gosling-baby-goosey-gif-25859974

We are the same

[hexed sierra]

don't you need also f(t) >= 0 almost everywhere for this?

if you take sines as an example, you get the same identity as you wrote but without the k multiplied in front

[crystal spruce]

the integral of sine over one period is 0

[hexed sierra]

that's my point

ah you're using the same tau for the period and the integration limit, smh

[crystal spruce]

im using tau as just a generic variable btw

[hexed sierra]

how do you mean

[crystal spruce]

the integration limit has to be the period tho

[hexed sierra]

ok yeah

[crystal spruce]

that's intentional

[hexed sierra]

then yeah just do what algmyr says

[crystal spruce]

👍

[fresh basalt]

algmyr?

[crystal spruce]

fenix

[civic pasture]

Hi @hexed sierra

[hexed sierra]

hi

[crystal spruce]

hedd

[jaunty wraith]

High Edd

[thick ore]

head

[naive igloo]

.love @rough sapphire

[median dome]

That was a mistake.

Your input was invalid: This command can only be ran against members with the lovefest role! This role be can assigned by running !subscribe in #bot-commands.

Usage:```
.love <who> [whom]

[naive igloo]

.love @rough sapphire

[median dome]

Please don't do that.

Your input was invalid: This command can only be ran against members with the lovefest role! This role be can assigned by running !subscribe in #bot-commands.

Usage:```
.love <who> [whom]

[naive igloo]

grrr

.love @naive igloo

[median dome]

💗 You seem like you are good friends 💗

spaceginner ❤ spaceginner scored 30%!
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A letter from Dr. Love:

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[naive igloo]

lmao

i <3 myself

.love @rough sapphire

[median dome]

Please don't do that.

Your input was invalid: This command can only be ran against members with the lovefest role! This role be can assigned by running !subscribe in #bot-commands.

Usage:```
.love <who> [whom]

[naive igloo]

ohhhh

i undersood

[rough sapphire]

💀

[honest star]

I'm obsessed with how cute my cats are in this shark cat cave

[young shoal]

🐬

oh, no digital ocean emote 😦

[gritty zinc]

world's cutest docker container

[civic pasture]

Dockers a whale tho

[high haven]

haha thats actually great

[plush sun]

Blahaj

[young shoal]

blahaj

[glossy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-crime-shork-gif-11593260224452563953

[young shoal]

🐈

[civic pasture]

meowww

[grave cove]

[acoustic moss]

blahaj

[solemn tulip]

å

[acoustic moss]

blaahaj

[solemn tulip]

I guess that's acceptable

[small coral]

just learned "blåhaj" is pronounced "blo-hay"

[thick ore]

but we speak english so

blay haj 😝😜

[small coral]

no way i also did the english one wrong

[thick ore]

more american but whatever

i pronounce it as blahaj

[small coral]

blay-haj sounds weird

blaa-haj sounds okay

[solemn tulip]

bloo high, though the first part isn't exactly correct

[small coral]

yeah i think that's what i said

[solemn tulip]

I wouldn't pronounce hay as high 😶

[small coral]

it's weird trying to express pronunciation as consistent latin letters in an english server

given how inconsistent english vowels are

[solemn tulip]

what even is an å like sound in english?

vowel at the beginning of "awkward" maybe

bla(wkward)high

[thick ore]

blaw high

[solemn tulip]

||bee law||

[ruby birch]

Guys. After my model o died (common problem) I got like 120 in refund money. What Mouse do I buy. I want to play Hypixel (skyblock/skywars and bedwars) And games like fortnite terraria. Needs to be close to or under 80g Does not need fancy rgb but some like the MO would be good.

[harsh tundra]

What currency? "under 80g" sounds like gold to me because of too much WoW

[latent scaffold]

lol I'm surprised you didn't think of grams

imagine it's 80 grand

nvm it think it actually might be grams

I think 120 is what's missing a currency

[harsh tundra]

I thought it was continuation of the value stuff (as in: "I got 120 but I'm thinking using only 80 from it"), hence gold XD

[latent scaffold]

I kinda thought so too but I guess I'm used to gold as G instead of g

[low chasm]

Is it referring to the weight?

[fresh basalt]

yes

it's a lightweight gaming mouse

Mine is ~140g and not lightweight

These are weights you can use to adjust the weight of your mouse.

This is the wired version of the mouse they are referring to

it's also got rgb

rgb is like racing stripes I guess

[latent scaffold]

I low-key can't stand mice with low weight

or with like no traction

[fresh basalt]

I feel like I'm going to throw them across the room.

[latent scaffold]

I really like the feedback of mice

and like the weight counters my inaccuracy

[fresh basalt]

I wish I got a lower profile mouse but I like the weight.

[latent scaffold]

I have my G502, still love it

[fresh basalt]

Sometimes it hurts my hand.

I'm using a G604

[latent scaffold]

I suppose pretty similar to mine

Just with an awkward shape IMO

Very uh blobby

oh and more buttons but TBH I hate mouse buttons

[harsh tundra]

I have some simple logitech wireless, cheap but reliable

[fresh basalt]

I use them for macros and to compensate for my shitty game playing skills.

[harsh tundra]

I love hexagons but I hate cutouts like that - sweat and dirt magnet :x

[latent scaffold]

ugh you should see the side of the G502

[wild hill]

Yo I wanna

[latent scaffold]

It's got some grip thing but it's the worst to clean

[wild hill]

Learn python

And scratch

Can someone help me?

[fresh basalt]

!resources @wild hill

[royal lake]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[latent scaffold]

Like that's the only thing I don't like about the G502: it's a pain in the butt to keep clean

[fresh basalt]

Check that out.

[wild hill]

Tybro

[fresh basalt]

welcome

[latent scaffold]

Also with the M4 and M5 buttons

Unless I'm just shamefully unaware of some methods

[wild hill]

Y'all play cs.go

?

[fresh basalt]

I do not.

[wild hill]

Ok

[fresh basalt]

@latent scaffold I'm not sure these mice are designed with cleaning as a priority and that's annoying.

[wild hill]

What y'all talking bout

?

H

[latent scaffold]

A beautiful story of l*ve

[latent scaffold]

Yeah maybe I'm inclined to agree which is unfortunate because I think I like everything else

[harsh tundra]

I have sweaty hands. When I played osu in the past, I literally had a tissue between my hand and the keys :x

[harsh tundra]

Computer mice and how bad some designs are for cleaning

[wild hill]

That's nice

Just got a laptop

[fresh basalt]

At least I get to feel like a dirty hobo when I use mine I guess.

[wild hill]

It's a HP 250

I'ma go offline bye

Guys

[fresh basalt]

good luck with Python, bye

[tardy rain]

Cotton bud + alcohol

[fresh basalt]

In this?#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

In each individual little cutout?

[tardy rain]

Uh

[fresh basalt]

you're having a laugh

[tardy rain]

Ok maybe dont buy that one

[fresh basalt]

well that's the model o

[tardy rain]

What happened to normal looking mice lol

Does the o stand for 'ole?

As the Brits would say

[fresh basalt]

This is mine.

[harsh tundra]

That's how I clean my laptop keyboard, but it's sometimes only misplacing dirt. I'd need to clean it very regularly instead of when I actually start seeing stuff

[fresh basalt]

It's cool because that button on the top disengages the wheel so I can spin it.

It's so nice.

[tardy rain]

Neat

[harsh tundra]

Fidget wheel?

[tardy rain]

You could also use compressed air
Havent tried that tho

[fresh basalt]

I use it to scroll easily or get precise

[tardy rain]

I imagine it works nice

[fresh basalt]

I have an electric air duster.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086WRHRSJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

[harsh tundra]

I have "just" a two side buttons one. I loved configuring them for WoW, so nice. My partner is old school and uses normal 3-button mouse even when playing

[fresh basalt]

I got tired of buying canned air.

[tardy rain]

Cant play WoW without 12 side buttons

[fresh basalt]

oh no

I got annoyed last time I played WoW so I just don't.

[harsh tundra]

I was a healer, so healbot frames + 5 buttons x shift/ctrl/alt stuff was enough

[tardy rain]

Wtf priest main?

[latent scaffold]

See, I think those holes are specifically to help with sweat but gravity presents a problem

[fresh basalt]

average WoW HUD

[tardy rain]

Based

[latent scaffold]

but also how much would your hands sweat with those holes like that

Hmmm ... Either way, what a nightmare

[harsh tundra]

Yep. I only played WoW Classic and mained priest since classic vanilla

[tardy rain]

Post wotlk UI was streamlined a lot

Its much cleaner now

[latent scaffold]

Days like these I feel remarkably young

[fresh basalt]

How much does it cost per year to play WoW?

[tardy rain]

About the same

Its still £12.99 for me

For monthly sub

There are cheaper options for 3months and 6months

[fresh basalt]

Imagine if The Sims was subscription-bassed.

[tardy rain]

• £25-30 for biannual expac

[harsh tundra]

Classic now has tokens as well (it didn't have for a long time), so my partner stocked and we don't pay anything now, lol

Stocked on them as in bought from AH

Basically legal gold buying for those who bought the tokens in the first place

[tardy rain]

If youre semi competent you could boost for them

Or you could play the ah with resources

[fresh basalt]

Too much work.

[tardy rain]

Bit of a grind

[fresh basalt]

And you're still paying subscription to grind.

Not worth it IMO.

[harsh tundra]

Partner plays AH quite well, we have multiple alts on both accounts that are mainly used for crafting stuff (crafting cooldowns worth a lot)

[tardy rain]

I boosted people for the sub

[fresh basalt]

I think I'm just averse to MMORPGs.

[tardy rain]

On retail

[fresh basalt]

WoW always felt like Disneyland where you go to a predetermined spot to meet up for a mission then engage the mission and suddenly you're on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

[harsh tundra]

One of the reasons I didn't play WoW before classic, too much stuff in the world, too much grind, not enough irl friends to do stuff with

[tardy rain]

Not enough online friends either 😔

[harsh tundra]

Classic was my partner and a bunch of their friends re-living their youth. So I just joined the fun

But it was only my partner and I who stuck long enough to hit lvl 60 and start raiding

[fresh basalt]

I got to do the Planetside open beta a long time ago and got miffed with other players. Since then I did Borderlands multiplayer with a friend once, tried Portal multiplayer once with internet rando then nothing until just recently when I got No Man's Sky and decided to do multiplayer.

Maybe I'm just antisocial. :P

[brittle void]

guys, lets say i have a command in click (a command line parser tool) like this

@click.command()
@click.option('--shout', is_flag=True)
def action_store_true_type_flag(shout: bool):
    temp = sys.platform
    if shout:
        temp = temp.upper() + '!!!!111'
    print(temp)

here, the default value is False
and it gets changed to True if i pass in the value (refer 2nd image)

but i can also change the default value to True, so that when i pass in the flag, it changes its value to False

now, my question is

1. how can i represent this boolean flag in the bottom bar below (1st pic), so that anyone can understand what its doing just from a glance

currently im printing the flag as it is, denoting that passing it means setting its value to True

2. what to do if there are many options to be listed in the bottom bar and the text is too long for the terminal? cuz if there are many, they wrap around in a janky way

currently, im just making the text go back and forth just like the marquee tag in html

[brazen crow]

what

[short trout]

Guys can someone review my paper it's the first research paper I wrote just need a heads up before submitting it

[wanton delta]

rust trending
its over for y'all pythonistaners

[brittle void]

wait till mojo comes in the trending page

[wanton delta]

nO

[brittle void]

yeS

[wanton delta]

let that thing trending only on AI-version of twitter

[thick ore]

they won't talk about C# because it's the best language

[tardy rain]

Say what?

[wanton delta]

give it 5 years i promise

[tardy rain]

Been saying that for 5 years now

[naive igloo]

we need just as much more now

[polar vigil]

Sir, this is Rust: I am not trending.

[civic pasture]

Rusty

[wanton delta]

making dinner
cutting some spicy pepper
I forgor I have a healing wound on my thumb
Im in spain without the s

[fresh basalt]

Is the rain falling on the plain?

[wanton delta]

Oh yes it does

From my eyes

[fresh basalt]

F

#python-discussion drifting into OT is inevitable.

[native river]

rog harpe ace aimlabs

[uneven pine]

I've detected with 78% positivity this image is AI generated

[wicked haven]

I think it's just blurred and JPEG 2000'd to death

[fresh basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXpdyAWLDas

[grave cove]

are they renewing the AI hype

sigh

[fresh basalt]

Yeah because Sora

the videos are funny

and because people here didn't know who Malcolm X was and someone thought that "JFK ended slavery" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfH3fkIsc5U

You're welcome.

[grave cove]

huh

[fresh basalt]

@grave cove maybe not in this channel but one of the OT channels

[tulip falcon]

Soros model 💀

Maybe there is no point to doing anything anymore

[fresh basalt]

What?

[tulip falcon]

I feel like everyone is already doing all the cool stuff while I'm trying to keep up lol

[fresh basalt]

The only sites on the web that use the phrase "Soros model" are batshit crazy conspiracy sites.

[tulip falcon]

Lmao yes

It was a dumb joke

[lament cairn]

openai is who made sora, right?

every generated video ive seen so far proves what i thought was impossible with current ai
decently realistic video generation

[tulip falcon]

Is it an AI generated leopard?

[grave cove]

cat

[lament cairn]

maybe

(no, it isn't)

[fresh basalt]

If you watch that video I posted you'll see that some of the AI videos are decent but if you look at them for longer than ten seconds you can see they are fake.

Like the woman walking down the street whose right leg turns into her left leg and so on.

A lot of people probably won't be able to glean any peculiarities depending on the subject matter though.

Especially if they don't really want to think critically in the first place.

[lament cairn]

i was gonna say "a lot of people will fall for it tho" but i remembered computer generated/rendered stuff has fooled people for a long time
occasionally i see videos of news channels using mildly edited game footage and passing it off as real

[fresh basalt]

To put it bluntly - some people are just really dumb.

Like genuinely dumb, not pretend dumb.

[lament cairn]

like this vid of a C-RAM firing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMIJV8XwASw ive seen at least one news outlet say this was a video of an irl event

[lament cairn]

that's an awesome snow leopard, thanks

[fresh basalt]

Pixar?

[tulip falcon]

DALL-E 3

[tulip falcon]

It's hard to stop being dumb 😩

[fresh basalt]

too symmetrical

also weird lighting

[fresh basalt]

I think it's easier for me to see because I play video games so notice the textures (or lack of).

[lament cairn]

compress and crop it a bit and put it in a tiktok-friendly format and bam

easy troll

[fresh basalt]

It's okay, the world is engineered for them.

[split glade]

Is anyone into musical composition?

[uneven pine]

I've detected with 98% probability that your messages is NOT AI generated.

[fresh basalt]

100%

[fresh basalt]

"your messages is NOT AI generated" is just the type of grammatical error a scammer would put in a phishing email. My conclusion is that localwolfgirl is a Nigerian prince.

[grave cove]

for a natural language processing model its language is really not natural lol

[wanton delta]

yes
haven't been at it in a while

[honest star]

Urgh, utility company doing work on my street right now. Shouting just often enough to stop me from falling asleep -_-

[drowsy rose]

certified ai moment

[fresh basalt]

It's gonna take our jerbs!

[fresh basalt]

Is the electricity out somewhere?

[drowsy rose]

reposting

lol

• (yet another repost)

[honest star]

Not that I can tell

[fresh basalt]

interesting

The only time I've ever seen utility crews work at night is if something broke.

Maybe they're feds installing surveillance equipment :P

[crystal spruce]

👀

[young shoal]

these are actually digits of pi

[drowsy rose]

yes, i know those are digits of pi

im not an uncultured swine who only knows 3 digits of pi

[willow narwhal]

I know what you mean, but it's very likely any digits are actually digits of pi.

[young shoal]

😩

[gritty zinc]

all 9 digits are digits of pi (source: independent research)

[young shoal]

source?

[willow narwhal]

Are you sure you counted that correctly?

[gritty zinc]

!e independent research, I told you

import math
print(all(str(x) in str(math.pi) for x in range(1,10)))

[royal lake]

@gritty zinc :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[young shoal]

ain't there 10 digits in base 10

[gritty zinc]

okay, okay

pi has every digit except 10. source: independent research.

[harsh tundra]

This is false. It showed 11 digits.

People should stop shortening "first n digits after decimal point" to "first n digits" ffs, "3" is also a digit!

[young shoal]

what?

[solemn tulip]

is 3 zero digits of π?

[brazen ingot]

there is a actual formula to find 50 billion digits for pi

http://mypiday.com/

[barren flower]

Hey why did the colors of the ico change?

[harsh tundra]

3.14 is 2 or 3 digits of pi?
it's 3 digits of pi, but 2 digits after decimal point
the screenshot you showed said "10 digits of pi", but it was 10 digits after decimal point, 11 digits of pi total

[harsh tundra]

#changelog

[fresh basalt]

Hmm?

[crystal spruce]

i didn't expect to see eliot on this server

[solemn tulip]

there are plenty of formulas that allow you to get arbitrarily good estimates of π

[fresh basalt]

I didn't expect to quote him.

I thought it was a good response to the previous thing though.

[low chasm]

so: question

[fresh basalt]

false

[low chasm]

let's say I need to persist the state of some structure in between runs of a program. this structure looks something like ```
Site:

• pages: list
• assets: list
• root: string

[fresh basalt]

Is this your own program?

[low chasm]

yes

[graceful basin]

what would be the disadvantage of the database?

[fresh basalt]

It's good to be consistent but it probably depends on the object.

[low chasm]

for some more context, I'm writing a static site generator with incremental builds - I've got the incremental part down, only the parts of the site which have changed are rebuilt, but the problem is that in between runs, Site is only representing the parts of the site that have changed, rather than all the pages of the site throughout every run.

[low chasm]

hmm, that is what I originally reached for

it's not particularly a problem, and this probably entirely due to how I've structured the program, but it's resulted in me having a bunch of different representations for a "page", that are all used in the same level of the program, but for different things

since to build the index (which is the main reason I need to persist pages between runs), I don't need all the details and metadata about every page.

but for other parts of the program, I do.

and it feels awkward to have different parts of the program rely on different representations of the same thing, feels like it could lead to some sort of inconsistencies

hm

alright, database it is, I've got a better grasp of it now.

[rough sapphire]

Who is your fav bot in this server?

[drowsy rose]

lmao

[brazen citrus]

Ok

[fresh basalt]

why not just ls -l stolen_files.zip?

[thick ore]

every digit is in pi

0123456789

[brazen citrus]

I'm impractical

[brazen citrus]

There are also cyclically increasing digits in pi

[fresh basalt]

That's no way to hack the Gibson

[lament cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lTRVstwaw

[small coral]

why does windows keep adding a separate keyboard when i don't want it to

[thick ore]

because it knows what's best for you

😊

[small coral]

aa ;-;

[uneven pine]

More likely you have a setting for your second language to add another keyboard for it

[open fern]

@lime citrus Hi, this is just a friendly reminder that we discourage saying "just google it" as it doesn't make for a friendly response for beginners who may not even know what/how to search for solutions for their problem. Thanks!

!otn s zig

[royal lake]

Query results

• 200-percent-zig
• code-that-hasn’t-received-zig’s-criticism-is-flawless
• merged-but-to-𝖹ig’s-branch
• zig-soup
• zig-stole-christmas
• 𝖹ig-the-zebra-pig

[sterile sapphire]

!otn s damian_78

lol

rip

[fresh basalt]

I think that's a privileged command

[sterile sapphire]

probably

[civic pasture]

!otn s jigglypuff

[rough sapphire]

Are you joining Vc today?

[polar vigil]

I read online that the meaning of life is 42. So simple

[tulip falcon]

Write a proof for that

[polar vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/proof-jack-nicholson-gif-26246597

It's from a book

[harsh tundra]

*the answer to the ultimate question of life, universe, and everything

and instead of "online", grab the actual source - Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy is amazing

[naive igloo]

but what is the ultimate question of life, universe, and everything?

[low chasm]

worth reading?

[solid elbow]

Worth reading again and again

[sturdy halo]

guys, who names these oto channels

[low chasm]

heh, guess I'll add it to the list then

[low chasm]

they're randomly picked from a pool that staff members can add to

rotate every 24 hours

[sturdy halo]

oh, thats why these stuff are so random...

[fresh basalt]

You should start counting how often someone asks about it.

[polar vigil]

Absolutely

[naive igloo]

and most of the time, those are quotes from users

[fresh basalt]

Do you like science fiction?

Do you like books? I would even recommend that book to somebody who doesn't like SF because it's very funny.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 is great too.

I really enjoyed watching that in a theater.

And if you want to experience the original format: https://archive.org/details/hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-bbc-radio-4

[harsh tundra]

I'm actually wondering if I should re-read. It's been a long time since my last read
Douglas Adams has his way with words so it's a light read, it's creative and comedic, but still with science fiction elements kinda making sense in the own convoluted way.

[gritty zinc]

i have discovered a gem https://github.com/corollari/linusrants

excerpt:

[thick ore]

the very precise hate classification 😭

[gritty zinc]

yeah the scores seem a bit silly, especially looking at the top-all

the lowest-hate ones really are unusually tame, though

[lament cairn]

How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on? lol wtf

[graceful basin]

I read things a byte at a time out of laziness

[timid mountain]

I was today years old when I realized that great programmers are not necessarily calm and composed

[tardy rain]

Something something he should practice his soft skills

[young shoal]

while it is unfortunate, i don't think he cares about his soft skills at this point

[vale raven]

You watched Linus talking to Nvidia?

[timid mountain]

no, but if he was rude he has my support

requiring registration just to keep my drivers up to date 😒

[latent scaffold]

I don't think that's a thing

[timid mountain]

I mean I can visit their website and download new drivers without registration sure

but their client that they keep trying to make me use demands that I register

[latent scaffold]

Hmm

I don't think you need to be signed in for that but I don't use it so who knows

[timid mountain]

I got mad and made sure my next GPU wouldn't be nvidia so

[latent scaffold]

lol I just remembered I don't even have an NVIDIA GPU

[lament cairn]

geforce experience

[lament cairn]

use nvcleanstall

geforce experience sucks
only good thing about it is shadowplay

[timid mountain]

I will keep that in mind for my next gpu, but this one is but a few months old so 😄

[low chasm]

I'm a fan yeah

[low chasm]

I'll check these out, thanks 👀

[grave cove]

leek to read list

[tulip falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-leek-cat-yes-thats-it-gif-12409068

[tulip falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fan-obr-gif-24437120

[fresh basalt]

I wonder if Linus has considered anger management courses.

[graceful basin]

I do believe he took something along those lines

[fresh basalt]

I'm glad. He is too smart to die from stress-related disease.

Although that excerpt could be skewed because he really just didn't like Kay Sievers.

It's amazing how many developers seem to have their heads firmly wedged in tight spots.

[paper sequoia]

Had to even change language to swear, tru Finn

[polar vigil]

😂

[outer sundial]

Hi did you test the code?
the output is "none" for some reason
also sorry to bother
@sinful kraken make sure you have function actually returning something, not just printing. A function that doesn't return anything will return None by default.

!return-gif

[royal lake]

Print and return

Here's a handy animation demonstrating how print and return differ in behavior.

See also: /tag return

[distant hazel]

@maiden prairie i've deleted your post from #black-formatter as it was not relevant to the channel

[jovial oriole]

Should I skip tomorrow and never show up again?

[tardy rain]

Game plan

[hearty violet]

u gotta appreciate a man with no tolerance for bullshit

[jovial oriole]

Game plan

[tardy rain]

Its objectively a bad trait of his to have

[fresh basalt]

If you live in the US you could skip tomorrow and go directly to the Employment Development Department.

[mossy blade]

it's a prank, just ignore it

[fresh basalt]

Nah

[mossy blade]

"prank the new guy" isn't harassment

you don't actually have to separate the cheese

the Employment Development Department is a California specific thing, and you're not gonna get unemployment if you no call no show on your second day over a harmless joke

the way to deal with that is reply to the text with "lol" and just do your job as normal. it's traditional in the restaurant industry to ask new people to do silly or impossible things

[fresh basalt]

Here's what you do: Shred some jack and cheddar at home. Put them in bags and hide them on your person. Go into work. Start separating the cheese. Do it slowly, so they get bored and stop watching you. After they stop watching you, eat the rest of the mixed cheese on the board. Excrete your personally-shredded cheese onto the board. Job done.

[mossy blade]

excrete is the wrong word

unless you're advising them to take a shit on the board

[fresh basalt]

No, I chose it.

Why are you being pedantic?

[mossy blade]

I'm not

[fresh basalt]

Yeah, you're being nitpicky. It's kind of annoying.

I don't understand why.

[mossy blade]

nah

[tulip falcon]

Separating the jack from cheddar is good imo, just put the pieces of cheese in an array and sort it

Or better yet use a hashmap

[fresh basalt]

alternatively just set the kitchen on fire and melt them all together

[grave cove]

Cheese sorting algorithm

[tulip falcon]

This reminds me, I wonder if we will be train AI to create algorithms for things that are physically infeasible for us currently.

[fresh basalt]

What do you mean?

[tulip falcon]

Like say humans acquire the ability to move a mountain out of the way to be able to retrieve some ore underneath

or make sorting the cheese trivial

[hearty violet]

if it were "objective" we wouldn't disagree on it
sure he's an asshole, but he's an asshole with a purpose and doesn't take any bullshit or anything that stirs away from the purpose he has on the linux kernel
he gets shit done and has proven himself for decades now

ur personal feelings about him means nothing, I'd take an asshole over a "get along" guy that just bullshits u and gives u shit products

[fresh basalt]

People disagree about objective truths all the time.

see: flat-earthers

[hearty violet]

sure, but saying personal traits are "objective" is just calling ur own opinion objective

just say u don't like him

[fresh basalt]

It's not subjective to say that people aren't going to want to work with prickly people.

Prickly-to-the-point-of-abusive people

[hearty violet]

yes, but thinking that Linus himself is "a prick" is itself subjective

[fresh basalt]

If Linus had an HR department to report to he'd probably get in trouble.

[tulip falcon]

That's a humorous litmus test

[fresh basalt]

I am imagining Linus in the principal's office.

[hearty violet]

he has low tolerance for bullshit
he talks to many people of all levels everyday

if u've been dealing with people nearly everyday for 20 years

I bet u'll also not want to deal with the people that are clearly wasting ur time or others

[hearty violet]

because HR is the pinnacle of humanity

[fresh basalt]

I've done a lot of technical support. I understand what it's like dealing with people.

[hearty violet]

(btw I'm not saying he's justified in how harsh he is sometimes, he certainly can be a big asshole sometimes)

[fresh basalt]

You can either choose to be kind or choose to be a dick.

You can tell someone they are wrong with tact.

[hearty violet]

technical support is much lower risk than linux tho
linux has support from megacorporations, his ability to manage linux has direct real world consequences everywhere and could cost him his job

(not that u not doing ur job properly wouldn't cost u urs lol)

[hearty violet]

yeah ik

[fresh basalt]

The level of risk involved does not excuse the behavior.

It may help explain the amount of stress he is under.

[hearty violet]

yeah I've heard a few times that they're burned out/getting burned out

[hearty violet]

it does mean that there's more pressure tho

[lament cairn]

i think without linus's anger linux would fall apart

[fresh basalt]

Why?

[tardy rain]

It doesnt have to be one way or the other
He's a fucking asshole and thats final

And no amount of ability will ever make that not the case

No one is questioning his technical skills but he also doesnt have to be a little bitch about things 🤷

[fresh basalt]

To be fair there are other developers who are just as bitchy.

[tardy rain]

How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?
People get killed for less

[fresh basalt]

So it's a bitchfest.

I never read that comment, hah.

toxic

[tardy rain]

Talk about "noty" acting like a baby and maybe getting some control over his emotions lmao

OSS try not to be toxic af challenge (impossible) (gone weirdly sexual)

[hearty violet]

linux needs a firm hand, not a people pleaser

he could tone down how harsh he is, but what he would be saying most of the time would be essentially the same

sure I'd like him to be less harsh about it, but..

[tardy rain]

Bro did you not read this

This is personal

[hearty violet]

I think linux is in good hands with him

[fringe rain]

then toning down helps no?

[tardy rain]

Also do you not know this is all volunteer work?

[hearty violet]

is this the email he sent to the guy spamming file system PRs?

[fringe rain]

well, i agree with linus's views on purposely not acting professional, but some things are certainly too far

[tardy rain]

Nobody getting paid

[fringe rain]

could also be a pre-agreed marketting tactic(for a non profit os), who knows

[hearty violet]

???
u're aware that people are paid to work on linux right?

[tardy rain]

If youre defending this behaviour thats just sad

[hearty violet]

there's people that volunteer sure, but a lot of people are paid to do this

[tardy rain]

Who's getting paid to be subject to abuse like that lmao

[fringe rain]

how much is he paying? might sign up

[hearty violet]

I did not defend it, I said that he's too harsh at times, u can just reread my messages if u want to

but at the same time I'd rather have him then some fluff people pleaser

[fringe rain]

same

[tardy rain]

.

It sounds like you're excusing his behaviour because of his technical skill

[hearty violet]

not all of it is justified
but I think him not tolerating bullshit is a good trait :)

[tardy rain]

But thats not what the topic is

The topic is his abuse

[hearty violet]

like the "too stupid to find a tit to suck on" comment is too much

[tardy rain]

Not tolerating bullshit can be as simple as "no thanks, pr rejected"

But he doesnt do simple

He does extremely cringey teen anger

[hearty violet]

there's no reason to make this comment unless people are literally being assholes and u fought back

[fresh basalt]

You would think.

[tardy rain]

If people are being assholes it doesnt mean you gotta be one back

Who the fuck has the energy to come up with silly nonsense like he does

[hearty violet]

him saying fuck u to nvidia was better than him just keeping his mouth shut about it for example
if it were someone that was more "tactful" they would just keep glazing big corp while getting blamed for linux having (at the time at least) utter garbage support for nvidia hardware

[hearty violet]

u're gonna tell me someone never pissed u off enough that u purposely said someone to spite them?

[tardy rain]

Cursing out big companies isnt the same as cursing out individuals

[tardy rain]

Not at work lol

He's basically a public figure

How about some professionalism

Its not that hard, really

[hearty violet]

companies only are shitty cause people can be shitty
there's companies and people that are shitty
some people won't stop if u just say "no thanks, pr rejected"

[hearty violet]

I think he knows he has job security

no one dares to take him off his position

he has nothing to lose 💀

but yeah, he's too harsh sometimes

[tardy rain]

Someone needs to let him know its not that serious

[fresh basalt]

His blood pressure will let him know.

[tardy rain]

That would be ironic

[maiden prairie]

i see!

[rough sapphire]

begula pfp

epic

simga chad here

[small coral]

test2 https://github.com/thatbirdguythatuknownot/sniplections/blob/main/obfuscator.py#L166-L180

test3 https://github.com/thatbirdguythatuknownot/sniplections/blob/main/obfuscator.py#L167-L180

[royal lake]

The snippet you tried to send was too long. Please see #bot-commands for the full snippet.

[small coral]

YES

[shrewd thunder]

Guess I won't be going into the office today

But the apartment is doing fire alarm testing today so I have to

[foggy jungle]

What is this image showing? You should have plenty of room to get out around the other cars there if you're saying they're blocking you in.

[young shoal]

i too am confused

[crystal spruce]

when aren't you

[thick ore]

that frown react 😭

[obtuse jasper]

lol

[uneven pine]

Prius driver moment?

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @wild phoenix until <t:1708674368:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[wanton delta]

so im trying to learn protocol buffers from the tutorial on protobuf.dev, and the right is what I got and the left is what I supposedly should have gotten? there's no mention of any step in between

u kiddin me

[wanton delta]

Nvm i did miss a step

[thick ore]

missing steps lead you to trip and fall 🧠

[wanton delta]

but i always stand up after
no matter how many brain damages i have

[ruby fox]

good, now go and properly use a lift

[wanton delta]

i have brain damage i can't use a lift

[ruby fox]

dont worry bro, i will help you

[wanton delta]

thanks

[ruby fox]

so what are you doing?

[wanton delta]

right now just doing some dsa in ts

its not obvious how to implement an iterator in js/ts
need more googling

[ruby fox]

why typescript?

[wanton delta]

right now i still go back and forth from ts and js, idk where my preference is yet, typescript feels nice and js with jsDoc is also pretty nice

and this is like day 3 of me learning ts/js

turns out after python and rust, there's not really much that I find surprising

so maybe next bit is C/C++ and then asm

[gritty zinc]

does TS not support the function* syntax?

[wanton delta]

what is that?

[gritty zinc]

that's how one defines a generator in JS

[wanton delta]

oh i find this
https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/iterators-and-generators.html

so i need to use Symbol.Iterator

oh is iti like, an inheritance thing (?)

oh there's yield in ts lol

oh here we go
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Iteration_protocols#the_iterator_protocol

ok ok got it

[wanton delta]

carry on guys don't mind me

[ruby fox]

sorry, i missed out your reply

[wanton delta]

np lul i just needed to store the link 😆

[ruby fox]

i mean, there is sure for loop in ts right?

[wanton delta]

of course

i just didn't know how to implement one, until now

[ruby fox]

oh, its not similar to js?

[wanton delta]

i mean i imagine they are

i haven't tried

[ruby fox]

lol what

[wanton delta]

i should implement it in both js and ts

ts is just js with extra steps

[ruby fox]

i think they should be similar right?

[ruby fox]

ohh

[wanton delta]

but ts transpiles into js anyway so i can run it on node, so they should be similar in code

[ruby fox]

coffescript, typescript, manymore -scripts( but not visual basic script(vbs)) should have kinda same way right?

[wanton delta]

i believe so

there's coffescript?

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-kungfupanda-gif-5316498

[wanton delta]

i thought that was a joke, i never actually looked it up

[ruby fox]

yeah, they used it as the modding language for atom file editor ( the editor before vscode)

[wanton delta]

daang

rip atom

[ruby fox]

they say js is a cult, but after seeing coffescript, i belived it....

[wanton delta]

idk how js dev survived before there were jsdoc and typescript

how do you know what returns what

how many times did they wake up at 4am

[ruby fox]

thats the thing, they pray to js gods for it

[wanton delta]

🙏

i don't think even that will be enough

[ruby fox]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-kungfupanda-gif-5316498

[jovial oriole]

I hate when people say "let me take a look"

I ALREADY dont have much looks, and they want to take more?

[jaunty wraith]

Source?

[jovial oriole]

The mirror

[jaunty wraith]

/gif convex mirror

Where gif

L Discord

https://tenor.com/view/mirror-standtall-gif-19177047

[polar vigil]

/gif cat

[glossy niche]

https://youtu.be/0kFydRfswU8? neat video

for my fellow GD enthusiasts

[sinful shard]

/gif convex mirror

[vocal oyster]

so true

[hearty violet]

💀

[strange blade]

stelersus 👀

[rough sapphire]

@frozen crane Can you explain the otn?

[frozen crane]

there's nothing to explain
I am sus as fuck.

[carmine apex]

even more sus is that discord search doesn't turn up the source. must be an elevated staff channel

[strange blade]

👀 Stelersus

[frozen crane]

!otn s sus

[royal lake]

Query results

• brad’s-sushi-taco-classifier
• german-name-generator-suspense
• jesus-christ-this-is-a-python-server
• stelercus-is-sus
• stelersus
• sushi-is-like-minecraft-blocks
• the-jesus-car
• the-jesus-cdr
• the-jesus-nut

[frozen crane]

that's already in there

[carmine apex]

a bit bigger than about a year ago's: #ot1-perplexing-regexing message

new additions are stelersus and the-jesus-nut

[tulip falcon]

What's the backstory behind Jesus nut, Jesus car

[frozen crane]

I don't know. though I think "the jesus nut" is a nickname for a helicopter part

[polar vigil]

Mast nut

[carmine apex]

jesus nut: #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message
jesus car: (staff channel) #the-pydis-mass-layoffs-lounge message

[solemn tulip]

solve blanc(x) = c

(where blanc is the blancmange function, which is continuous but differentiable nowhere)

[latent scaffold]

we're talking about what again

Jesus's what

[strange blade]

Jesus nut

a slang term for the main rotor retaining nut or mast nut, which holds the main rotor to the mast of some helicopters

[tulip falcon]

That's a bigass nut

[carmine apex]

very important things tend to be oversized

[fresh basalt]

Not always.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linchpin

[carmine apex]

that may apply, actually. most pins you could make quite a bit weaker (and thus smaller), but unusual physics loads happen, so you don't

[fresh basalt]

People have huge egos and they are not important.

although I suppose that delves into the semantics of the phrase "very important".

[frozen crane]

If you put your finger in water, and the space where your finger was is still empty when you take it out, then you're important

Everyone else is replaceable

[fresh basalt]

There's no way all of that fit on a piece of paper inside a fortune cookie.

[frozen crane]

Irreplaceable is whose digital water displacement is permanent

[fresh basalt]

They say you don't know what you've got until it is gone.

[vernal lark]

is anyone here knowledgeable with harddrives? i'm new to ssds and attempted to clone my main partition to it, but apparently that failed in the program. is there a way to do some kind of proper testing beforehand? not sure what's going on but making a parition is taking too long and whatever choice i came across earlier mentioned something about 10 bad sectors before i cancelled the scan.

i just got the drive brand new out the package maybe 2 hours ago

[meager sphinx]

is the drive you are trying to clone , a system drive ?

[vernal lark]

yes. the program i used wouldn't let me clone the full drive without paying so i just tried to clone the main partition with all the files. did i do something wrong?

[muted pebble]

sheesh! I hope you punted that program off your system...

ever heard of oss? 😛

@vernal lark https://clonezilla.org

[meager sphinx]

you usually are not supposed to clone the main system drive as it can cause issues

the usual route is to install a fresh system and then copy stuff over

[wanton delta]

I usually do cloning with macrium reflect, reliable and dependable in my experience.

What software did you use?

[lament cairn]

Do you have an usb drive you can use to boot from?

As someone else said, you should try Clonezilla

[fresh basalt]

People on PyDis suggesting a tool made in Perl :O

[vernal lark]

i used easus partition master 😭
fortunately i have some usb drives en route and can finally redownload macrium and clonezilla now that my connection is temporarily restored

[sick lion]

guys what is the top 5 anti-spam bots?

[vernal lark]

fluffy chemtrails

[jovial oriole]

Real

[vernal lark]

lmao i guess the brand new ssd is doa

[thick ore]

@royal lake

100%

and also built-in discord automod if it can do that

[fresh basalt]

Is that yours?

AI?

man those cards are so freaking huge

Is that carpet underneath?

oh wait is that outside?

How much does it cost you to operate?

are those all 4090s?

I can't tell sorry

What do you mean it's free because you need heat?

ah I see

huddle up next to cryptomine to stay warm :P

roast marshmallows

figure out how to cook on it

[green pelican]

it looks so sus man

[fresh basalt]

I think that might go against one of the rules against advertising but I'm not sure.

[green pelican]

but how are they making money

even if its legit

awesome not doing it

lmao

i do my best to avoid it

so i cant justify it

for money

lmao

okay?

guess what

its ok

ill be fine :)

no

[fresh basalt]

can you stop please?

[foggy jungle]

!rule ad
Please do not advertise these services here.
You've done so several times now, and you've been asked to stop a few times now.
Please do not do so again.

[royal lake]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[desert bramble]

Hi 🙂

Is possible to restore python code from cython if source.c available?

[sick lion]

sending messages too quickly is what i mean

[naive igloo]

The Great Discord Rate-Limiting™️

||/jk||

[tranquil badge]

What's it called when you have files on your Desktop but the contents are all stored somewhere else? I understand "cloud storage" but I want to specifically know how to set that up with any cloud storage provider or my own NAS solution if that's possible.

[latent scaffold]

lol I would've just said "a shortcut, duh"

or a symlink

[lament cairn]

in windows you can mount a network drive

it'll then work pretty much like a normal drive

there's probably something similar in linux and mac

[meager sphinx]

could be a network drive , samba share , or anything

if you have your own NAS, you can set one up relatively easily

what kind of NAS do you have ?

[loud pollen]

well aware this is a python server, but i'm looking for someone who could potentially help me in Java. Is there someone I could ask questions to? learning java atm

[foggy jungle]

https://discord.gg/TeHpmpH2

[loud pollen]

im in that server, its kinda inactive or not beginner friendly lmao

been in this server when i was learning python

don't want to disobey rules in this server, just looking for someone i could ask questions to

[foggy jungle]

Oh no you're welcome to ask questions here in our OT channels. I just wanted to make sure you had a potentially better resource lol.
Sorry it's not so active.

[loud pollen]

no worries, i only incredibly prefer this server since i got TONS of help when i was learning (python sorry typo)

that's why i'm now asking here for java

by any chance, do you have other server suggestion you know?

[drifting narwhal]

Hi guys how are you doing

[loud pollen]

good, you?

[drifting narwhal]

Good what’s up

I'm new here and im a begginer in python

[tulip falcon]

Fuck

[drifting narwhal]

?

[tulip falcon]

My neck hurts and it makes my head hurt

[drifting narwhal]

oh sry about that,...um do uk how to teach someone the python language

[tulip falcon]

Yus

[drifting narwhal]

oh thats great to hear,can you teach me im basically a noob at it

[loud pollen]

yo nas

[drifting narwhal]

yes

[loud pollen]

are you familiar with Java?

we could help each other

i know python but college requires java now, looking for someone who could teach me lol

[foggy jungle]

No, I don't, I'm sorry. I had another one, but it appears to be a broken link now. 🥴

!guilds

[royal lake]

Communities

The communities page on our website contains a number of communities we have partnered with as well as a curated list of other communities relating to programming and technology.

[foggy jungle]

The 'curated list' link in there is my go-to, but some of them are quite outdated now.

[drifting narwhal]

nope i barely know a single language bro wish i could help

[tulip falcon]

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhQjrBD2T3817j24-GogXmWqO5Q5vYy0V

These videos have great structure, you can watch one at a time and go and practice

and we're always here to help with any questions

[drifting narwhal]

have you ever tried the coding den?i think you can get some help there

[drifting narwhal]

thanks a lot bro

[crystal spruce]

anyone know what keybind <M-_> refers to? this is for telescope.nvim

[blissful garden]

That's Emacs speak for "Alt".

[timid latch]

well technically it is the "Meta" key, which is a key that is not on most keyboards anymore and as such alt is often used as a replacement

[blissful garden]

If you see <S-_> or <H-_> anywhere, those are the Super and Hyper keys.

Super is usually bound to the Windows key on most Linux DEs, Hyper is pretty much never bound.

[fresh basalt]

Zuckerberg owns that key.

[wanton delta]

come use helix we have

also helix 'just works' with multiple languages i absolutely love it

i dont hafta do anything c:

i guess apart from installing language specific lsp

[timid latch]

I dont want something to work, I want to work for my editor.

[wanton delta]

grinD

[timid latch]

if I didnt spend 2 hours debugging my config do I really deserve to use it

[wanton delta]

lmao

also it's kinda weird where some lsps are hosted

intelephense for php is on npm

what

[fresh basalt]

What sort of name is intelephense?

[thick ore]

intellisense

elephant because php

[fresh basalt]

that's so dumb

[thick ore]

you hate elephants dont you

[fresh basalt]

No I just hate dumb names.

Elephants are cool.

I probably hate fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar2000 <- creative naming

[solemn tulip]

at least in vim S means shift

[graceful basin]

Most LSPs are written in typescript, since that's the language the reference implementation uses

There isn't much in terms of docs beyond the reference impl as well

[wanton delta]

I didnt know that
Til

[blissful garden]

Microsoft's pyright LSP, which is the type-checking predecessor to pylance, is also written in TypeScript. You can unofficially get it from PyPI, but the official package is on npm.

[wanton delta]

So the reference LSP is written in typsecript?

Does all LSP follow the same standard

Since they are mostly written in TS

Also why TS, apart from it being the language used as the reference implementation

[graceful basin]

That's mostly the reason. There aren't complete docs outside of the ref. impl, so it is way easier to use that.

[wanton delta]

Is LSP like, a repo that is forked and modified for each languages

Thats interesting

[soft violet]

This is not me offering help. More information is required. What website? Not letting you enter it in what way? Are there any error messages? Are you running adblockers/scriptblockers? Have you tried clearing out your browser's cache and trying again?

[graceful basin]

ah nvm, looks like there is a TS library for writing language servers these days

[wanton delta]

Lmao
Theres a library for everything

Learning javascript was indeed a necessary evil

I used to think that js with its weak typing is just gonna be a nightmare when I move to bigger projects

But theres TS and jsdoc

And doing regex in JS is also very easy

[harsh tundra]

That's 12 years ago. I'm pretty sure the link might be dead by now

[wanton delta]

so im taking part in a govt training program to be a full stack dev
it's php
wish me luck

[sterile sapphire]

you'll be great, best of luck!

[wanton delta]

Thanks!

[blissful garden]

PHP: it sets apart the men from the boys.

[tardy rain]

No thats bash

Boys use bash, men realise there are better tools

Lmao

Like powershell

Lmao

[low chasm]

lmao

[blissful garden]

lmao

Scripting language tier list:

• S: PHP, APL, awk
• A: vimscript, regex
• C: bash
• F: Powershell

[naive igloo]

lmao

[naive igloo]

where is lua

also since when php is a scripting language

[naive igloo]

i would put bash (and its forms) higher tbh

really good for dirty scripts

and regex is neither a scripting language btw

[blissful garden]

This was supposed to be a joke but I realize now that this could be a real list.

[naive igloo]

and APL is practically useless

[naive igloo]

yeaahh

i mean powershell i agree

its too complicated for a scripting language

and also weird

[jovial oriole]

We getting powershell with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💯

[glossy niche]

ppl keep calling it a scripting language bec it's interpreted

they mix the two

tho I wonder if it did start out as a scripting language, the creator of php was kind of

[naive igloo]

but then why java is not a scripting language

[sick nexus]

Tbf it is also AOT compiled

just not to machine code

[fresh basalt]

Throwing the glass after was a petulant thing to do but I understand the moment of weakness.

[thick osprey]

You know a theme is popular when someone makes it for mIRC
https://github.com/catppuccin/mirc

[rough sapphire]

@shy nimbus

let me know what my "pathetic behavior" is

[thick osprey]

Sounds like picking a fight. Taking a break and dropping it would be best.

[shy nimbus]

yeah I kinda don't care tbh

[rough sapphire]

i'm just defending myself

iam not the one who started this

🤷‍♂️

[shy nimbus]

because that question represents a literal self-explanatory lol

[rough sapphire]

no it doesn't

nothing i have done is "pathetic behavior"

i was literally helping someone

Lol

[hybrid root]

nvm, i moved it and forgot to delete it from __main__

[heady solstice]

if we are really evolving, why those subjects are on hype?

[jovial oriole]

Chatbots trying to parse this message

[heady solstice]

lol

people never was sick as nowadays, and looks it's being worse every second

if we are evolving, would we talking about happiness and other upbeat topics, right?

[tulip falcon]

What? Might want to edit your message and use a euphemism, people can get muted for talking about such things

[heady solstice]

so, we can't talk about reality?

it's a common issue everywhere

everytime we mention these topics people censor the message

so we always believe we are good

[tulip falcon]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, people do use AI to make such content or they don't?

[heady solstice]

yes, go to suno discord

9/10 music include "darkness"

the other contents as well

humans never was so sad as nowadays

[distant hazel]

i don't understand your original questions but we will moderate any inappropriate discussions so you are forewarned

[heady solstice]

=/

i can't turn people aware of the danger of nowadays?

[distant hazel]

we will moderate and censor discussions as needed because 1) we are not equipped to handle many of the topics you've mentioned and 2) it's not the place

[heady solstice]

i need to lie we all are good all time?

i'm in .ot

[distant hazel]

that's a non-sequitur, i'm saying there are some topics that we will not permit discuss of here. including off-topic channels

[heady solstice]

where is the place? because i never get a recomendation of place to discuss those topics

[distant hazel]

many of us are adults that have experienced our fair share of hardships and horrible things

[heady solstice]

but it's common for mods censoring those

[distant hazel]

you mentioned some discord server above?

[heady solstice]

yes

it's forbidden?

[distant hazel]

what is forbidden?

[heady solstice]

mention some discord server

[distant hazel]

you can mention it sure. if you drop a link the bot will automatically delete it

[heady solstice]

ok

[distant hazel]

we're not going to provide a curated list of where you can discuss these topics, so unfortunately you'll have to search for them yourself

[heady solstice]

i'm talking about people feeling worse everyday, and such AI tools are giving voice for the majority of people

horrible topics are increasing it's hype

i can't say it?

[distant hazel]

you can say that but it's not very coherent

[heady solstice]

the only places there're not any horrible topic are places where we have censorship

[distant hazel]

are you saying AI popularity is worsening the mental health of the multitudes?

[heady solstice]

no, AI popularity is just allowing more people to mention their own issues to more people

the mental health is getting worse everyday in general, but many people were not able to make music with their cursed feelings before

[distant hazel]

eh, sure they could

[tulip falcon]

That is just a bias of the subset of users you are interacting with, if you were in every server in the world you may see that people are more positive

[heady solstice]

it's not limited to music, even chatgpt can make a romance story about people biases with no much effort nowadays

tbh, i'm not finding positive people a while ago

we are getting sick more and more, but few days ago we were not talking about this, but now, people are screaming their biases everywhere

if people don't talk about biases, we just think everything is ok, but people are not hiding anymore

my point is: if we are evolving, so, why people are getting worse everyday?

[fresh basalt]

@heady solstice Maybe you just need to start hanging out with more positive people.

[heady solstice]

where positive people are?

my experience says that even the places where positive people used to go are getting more and more negative

[fresh basalt]

Maybe you need to broaden your experience.

[heady solstice]

so give me advices

[jovial oriole]

Go outsidr