you're monotonic increasing
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
crystal spruce
jaunty wraith
well, I'm stuck
young shoal
move the left stuff to the right side
crystal spruce
!e
from math import log
print(log(1))
royal lakeBOT
@crystal spruce :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
0.0
moyen I think you're overcomplicating a bit
jaunty wraith
mayhaps
crystal spruce
treat 0.8 as some constant k
crystal spruce
don't split it
tropic lichen
n*ln(0.8) > -ln(X) -> n > -ln(X) / ln(0.8)?
crystal spruce
some constant k less than 1 that is
jaunty wraith
n < 1 - log(X)
tropic lichen
(yeah ik ln isn't log but i felt like changing them cos im cool like that)
crystal spruce
`n*ln(0.8) > -ln(X)` -> `n > -ln(X) / ln(0.8)`?
uh
tropic lichen
wait uh
young shoal
missing a negative surely
tropic lichen
edited
royal lakeBOT
@jaunty wraith :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
-0.2231435513142097
you've still dropped a minus sign somewhere
acoustic moss
thats not how it works
crystal spruce
that's not equivalent tho
acoustic moss
a < -b
-a > b
tropic lichen
you had a + b < c and turned it into a > b + c
jaunty wraith
well, what now
crystal spruce
flip the inequality sign
acoustic moss
n > -log(X) / log(0.8)
crystal spruce
yeah
acoustic moss
minimum n is ceil of that
jaunty wraith
tropic lichen
whats the thing for combining logs again
jaunty wraith
log(a/b) = log a - log b
hearty violet
for some reason every time I join this channel someone is speaking about maths
lol
crystal spruce
ln(x)+ln(y)=ln(xy)
acoustic moss
getting n > sthn gives better vibes here cuz like
jaunty wraith
vibes based math
acoustic moss
"after" some bounces itll satisfy the conditions
tropic lichen
nono the other thing, where multiplying logs changes the base or smth
acoustic moss
log a / log b = log_b(a)
sterile sapphire
smh why does an associate require 5 years of experience
why are you like this grant thornton
acoustic moss
whos that
jaunty wraith
n*log(0.8) < log(1) - log(X)
v
???
v
n > -log(X) / log(0.8)
jaunty wraith
they're counting ACs
sterile sapphire
why do they need firms for doing a counting
lolll
jaunty wraith
why does dividing both sides by log(0.8) reverse the inequality
acoustic moss
because log(0.8) is negative
edgy crest
cuz it's negative
jaunty wraith
o
crystal spruce
also
X * (0.8)^n < 1
X * (4/5)^n < 1
X < (5/4)^n
(5/4)^n > X
n ln(5/4) > ln X
n > ln(X)/ln(5/4)
is how I'd do it
taking logs at the start is kinda
young shoal
real
young shoal
no i haven't had dinner yet
acoustic moss
Calculate the total distance and number of jumps it took until it was less than 1 meter.
what if its a trick question and they just mean the first fall
acoustic moss
ez
jaunty wraith
distanceeee
young shoal
math please
there's some formula it's like uhh
edgy crest
just sum it bro
acoustic moss
sum of gp
edgy crest
it's a gp
young shoal
first term * (1-r^n) / (1 - r)
acoustic moss
with several opportunities to off by one
jaunty wraith
well do it then
young shoal
you just use it twice, once for going down then once for going up
sterile sapphire
goddamnit, why is my linkedin so cursed
i have no idea what is going on
going to try uninstalling and reinstalling chrome
sterile sapphire
goddamnit
it's still happening
why is that happening
let's try another browser
nope
happened on firefox too
ok
maybe clearing my cookies will work
this is really bad
green pelican
Is it a LinkedIn issue?
sterile sapphire
Is it a LinkedIn issue?
i don't think so, my friend tried the same search and everything was fine
sterile sapphire
Not everyone
whatever it is, it's really bad
sterile sapphire
Well it could in theory affect like 1000 people
it's on every browser
sterile sapphire
Or atleast browser related
i submitted a ticket to their support
sterile sapphire
So it's more likely not client-side
i can't go past the eighth page anymore
sterile sapphire
So it's more likely not client-side
maybe if i shut down the computer and try again itβll work
literally delusional
anyways
sterile sapphire
i can't go past the eighth page anymore
doesn't work on my other computer
hmmm
this is so bad
it's not bc of a chrome extension
all my chrome extensions are disabled
smhhhh
ugh
i can't get past page 26
final crest
It's definitely on their side. If you tried another computer and got the same result, it's because of something on a server on their end
sterile sapphire
i think so then
final crest
The issue is tied to your account, not your computer
sterile sapphire
i submitted a ticket
final crest
I'm sure you realised this already
sterile sapphire
yeah
sterile sapphire
let's see if they can resolve this
it's alright
well not really alright
but i will survive
final crest
Good luck have fun, I hope it wasn't super essential for you
sterile sapphire
Good luck have fun, I hope it wasn't super essential for you
linkedin? it is bc i need a job π¦
final crest
Yeah I need a job too lol but in my case Im not finding much through LinkedIn that I didn't find otherwise
sterile sapphire
ic
customer support for linkedin is pretty slow
let's see what they say
maybe they posted a freeze on my account or something
for using that chrome extension
idk
final crest
The problem is it's not showing you the full results if you log in?
I would stay logged out, go through all the results, and apply to them externally via the company's own system (not linkedin)
sterile sapphire
final crest
Lmao
sterile sapphire
problem is that if i go past the eighth page
it just stops and says that
but i know there are more jobs than just that
idk wth is going on
sterile sapphire
Lmao
it's the strangest thing, it's fine for all my friends who are trying
i'm gonna guess they fucked up my account
final crest
I would make another account, or ask your friends to look for you, or search while logged out
final crest
i'm gonna guess they fucked up my account
Sadly yeah, whether deliberately or accidentally
sterile sapphire
word
final crest
Anyway good luck I gtg
sterile sapphire
Anyway good luck I gtg
thanks
acoustic moss
is it floor(t)+1 or ceil(t)
crystal spruce
floor because being at 1m is not less than 1m
acoustic moss
hmm
grave cove
hmm yes the floor here is made of ceil
crystal spruce
starting at 1m should require 1 bounce
actually wait
my result looks wrong
ah because 0.2 is 1/5 not 5
this seems more feasible
fits with n->infty being 9X as well
@jaunty wraith get double pinged (deleted other one because I'm bad at math)
young shoal
based
jaunty wraith
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713280492035768340/1174750098220142612/...
nice
acoustic moss
how much can you simplify that by ignoring the floor
jaunty wraith
AKA "the floor is lava" optimization
solemn tulip
how much can you simplify that by ignoring the floor
if we can ignore the +1 as well it's 9X (1 - X)
wait, that doesn't make sense, does it?
oh, it's divided by ln 5/4 rsther than ln 4/5
9X (1 - 1/X)?
acoustic moss
sounds about right
high haven
PTO
young shoal
ah
high haven
young shoal
it doesn't carry over next year
honest star
... That's so weird
young shoal
I assume that's legally required there
honest star
Some of my coworkers have to take PTO because they're at the carryover cap π₯΄ and I quite literally don't understand people who don't take PTO
honest star
But like... do anything else outside of work. Take trips, take days off, visit family and friends, rot in front of TV, anything that isn't work
young shoal
or don't have anything except work
high haven
some people dont
theres an episode about this particular topic on the next personal finance podcast i follow
honest star
I think my personal values are just so fundamentally diffferent than theirs that it's incredibly hard for me to understand and relate
young shoal
doing nothing that uses my brain really makes me wanna die. watching yt for a whole day would probably kill me
honest star
Cause I have my PTO meticulously planned and tracked out for the next year, making sure I also have a few days I can use
young shoal
for science
I've done it over school breaks and it's very sad. winter break is good because AOC is then
high haven
Cause I have my PTO meticulously planned and tracked out for the next year, maki...
thats smart. to always keep a bit of a buffer
honest star
Get a hobby! Especially one that doesn't involve you sitting in front of a screen
high haven
running
honest star
expand your hobbies
young shoal
I'm planning to use Thanksgiving break to establish a habit
high haven
honest star
Pick up cooking tbh, it's fun and then you get a meal at the end
young shoal
perhaps
high haven
cooking is good
graceful basin
baking is even better, requires 0 skill, just religious adherence to the recipe
high haven
reading is good
honest star
You can do some much prep for it too, finding recipes, looking up ingredients and cooking methods. For me half the fun is the preperation for cooking
honest star
Oh man, the book I'm reading now has such potential but the writing style is just too simple and the characterization is so weak π it's so unfortunate
young shoal
source?
honest star
It tricked me with its description of giant crystal-based mechs that require 2 pilots synced >_>
honest star
I'm reading some rocket science book which is really interesting
what's the name?
hybrid root
It tricked me with its description of giant crystal-based mechs that require 2 p...
Specific Rim?
tardy rain
I need to take pto too
Got a bunch left and i can only carry over 5 days
But i work from home so days off and work days are pretty much all the same lmao
tardy rain
Work life balance in this case would mean i work more because i definitely underwork atm
So, can I pass on the question?
young shoal
you need the 2 different setups
young shoal
why isn't that a thing anyway
young shoal
just get paid less then ask for more
distant hazel
i want more pay too π°
high haven
some companies pay you for unused PTO
i need this
high haven
i want more pay too π°
mina i just got a raise. 15%.
busting my butt all year was ||not|| worth it
high haven
Got a bunch left and i can only carry over 5 days
mar take your pto. relax. and dont pull an sg
distant hazel
mina i just got a raise. 15%.
aw nice congrats!
high haven
Cant relax rn
why not
undone thorn
damn 15%? massive
high haven
Lots of chasing after doctors
oof
best of luck bud
navigating US healthcare system is a nightmare
cant imagine what its like over there
tardy rain
Its worse
high haven
why not take PTO so you can chase more doctors
tardy rain
Its not for me, but i did
high haven
i assumed so. oh ok good
tardy rain
I think its worse than the us
young shoal
π¦
tardy rain
Its expensive, nobody knows shit, it takes ages
high haven
similar over here except its probably even more expensive
like most personal bankruptcy is due to medical debt
fun fact
tardy rain
But you dont die waiting for a surgery lol
You can get back to it, repaying your loans
tardy rain
It do be like that
high haven
graceful basin
Does anyone know a program to backup a macbook to a windows computer?
spare oriole
Does anyone know a program to backup a macbook to a windows computer?
prayers
graceful basin
prayers
turns out all you need to do is create an smb share, then create a .dmg file in that share, and have time machine back up to that path
truly the apple way
step 2 done
high haven
ok
also yknow what the js party peeps said
if you want to start a fight, bring up the topic
of having raw sql in your components
young shoal
is that controversial?
high haven
ask a frontend person
young shoal
as a backend person, that just seems like leaking abstraction all over the place
high haven
spiral zephyr
Imagine if this component is doing some more (non-trivial stuff) if it is inserting to DB directly you can't test it in isolation
tardy rain
(i hope)
spiral zephyr
That's why I don't like it
young shoal
it's terrible because it leaks all the implementation details
now if i want to change my schema i have to change everything
grave cove
it's terrible because it leaks all the implementation details
pretty much
next.js's whole thing is blurring the line between frontend and backend
though it's not like they stop you from doing it the traditional way
young shoal
wack
civic pasture
# Subset for Egypt to India
temp_by_country_city_vs_year.loc["Egypt":"India"]
# Subset for Egypt, Cairo to India, Delhi
temp_by_country_city_vs_year.loc[("Egypt", "Cairo"):("India", "Delhi")]
# Subset for Egypt, Cairo to India, Delhi, and 2005 to 2010
temp_by_country_city_vs_year.loc[("Egypt", "Cairo"):("India", "Delhi"), 2005:2010]
Subsetting pivot tables are taxing
π
My eyes get hurt
stiff siren
is paper being white a race thing? trees are BROWN
grave cove
probably not
easier to put black marks on white paper than white marks on black paper
fathom musk
is paper being white a race thing? trees are BROWN
You can say paper wasn't always white
We used to write on leaves
Then moved to papyrus
Which iirc if yellow
*is
The way paper was being made was by taking a bunch of leafy materials (I mean materials from trees) and then boiling it down in an alkaline solution like baking soda or bleach
It yields some sticky white substance which you then clean in water, press and dry to make paper
I presume that as our chemistry got better and better, we started to use caustic soda (NaOH) instead of bleach which yielded a whiter goo from the leaves
Then we were able to make even purer caustic soda so even whiter paper
Black paper doesn't make sense cuz why would you dye a paper?
You had black slates
You use chalk on them
If you had to write
On black
It was also easier to find black dye to write
eager cliff
@tranquil orchid I "fixed" my first circuit board π€
thick ore
Did i hear nextjs
Oh yes
that
we all love server actions
as a Next.js shill, it is my duty to recommend writing SQL in the frontend to people
eager cliff
Can I take the STM32 microcontroller out of a cobra radar system and reprogram it like any other micro controller?
It's a cobra rad450 radar detector
I think it's no longer working properly anyways, so no harm in recycling something inside it that is working
cobalt remnant
My coverage report makes NO sense!
this is conftest.py
I guess it would help if I actually ran coverage. Oops
thick osprey
The interpreter not importing Any therefor preventing you from using Any. It is evolving. The singularity is now.
wanton delta
Oh no
inner moon
hey guys, i've cloned this repository, but when I compile it, it seems to throw many errors. I'm new-ish to C++, so i was wondering if someone were to compile this repository to see if it works for them:
https://github.com/gianmarcopicarella/virgo
I am unsure if its something to do with my compiler version, etc
solid elbow
hey guys, i've cloned this repository, but when I compile it, it seems to throw ...
g++ main.cpp works fine for me
inner moon
`g++ main.cpp` works fine for me
hey godly, you cloned it and had no issues running g++ main.cpp? did you do anything beforehand, of which i may have missed?
sick shadow
`g++ main.cpp` works fine for me
memray seems pretty cool, gonna try it out at work π
glossy niche
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947462946731225098/1175130893061472376/Op...
isnt this really old? i rememebr seeing it on miniclip, if my memory serves me right
unkempt monolith
Released 6 years ago, not that old
glossy niche
oh, then im mixing it up with another game
tho it dsoes look interesting
oh, its from zachtronics
neat
stiff siren
i'm tryna get a pet tape worm so it can help me chew my food
wanton delta
sometimes i wonder why i can read
glossy niche
tranquil orchid
<@284565640684109824> I "fixed" my first circuit board π€
what'd you do? π
tranquil orchid
Can I take the STM32 microcontroller out of a cobra radar system and reprogram i...
Depends
It may be write protected, might not be
Easiest way to check is probably to just try program it and see how it goes π
eager cliff
what'd you do? π
Brother bought a brand new cobra radar, went to set it up but the lcd screen wasnt turning on. Neither was the other board that controlled the radar/audio speaker
So he gave it to me to look at .. the power strip for the lcd screen wasnt fully plugged in straight from the factory
Cant get it to connect to anything like it's supposed to, so if he let's me have it for the mc I'll try to program it
Well he says brand new but the PCB had clear signs of third party pampering.
From the looks I'm guess there was a short circuit they tried fixing, there was that liquid stuff that helps solder melt with less heat on the board on some transistors
Dont think they quite fixed it π
jovial oriole
I woke up at 5 am, and im seeing tbe same people that i saw at 9 am, 1 pm and 9pm active on this server
Do people here not sleep
crystal spruce
a lot of people here run on RST
jovial oriole
Ok but why am i seeing them 24/7
crystal spruce
because RST works like that
jovial oriole
.wiki RST
median domeBOT
jovial oriole
They run on rapid storage technology?
crystal spruce
rem standard time
eager cliff
Ok but why am i seeing them 24/7
I'm awake for 18-28 hours at a time
warm briar
i've got an aws ec2 instance (free tier) to host a discord bot, and for whatever reason, the bot keeps randomly going down but only while i'm actively connecting to it via vscode ssh
the bot goes offline, the ssh connection breaks, but the aws page reflects nothing wrong with the server, stating that everything runs normally. rebooting the aws instance seems to fix the issue but it takes a few minutes for the server to come back to a useable state and is quite disruptive to development
this can happen as often as every half hour or so, though i haven't noticed a pattern
anyone have theories about why this might be?
pls ping if anyone has any ideas thank youuuuu <3
graceful basin
i've got an aws ec2 instance (free tier) to host a discord bot, and for whatever...
How does the resource utilization look when it crashes?
RΓ‘m, CPU and such
warm briar
crash occured at red circle
btw very sorry if i'm not super familiar with a lot of the stuff i'm dealing with here, i'm very inexperienced and have had significant help from a friend who knows a fair bit more about networking stuff than i do
graceful basin
Why does this not show RAM, amazon? VSC SSH is not the lightest thing to run, I would expect it to potentially eventually run the server out of RAM
warm briar
that would make sense given that i'm using the free tier Β―_(γ)_/Β―
though this time it's not coming back up despite my multiple restarts
directly connecting through cmd instead of visual studio ssh extension reveals that botd is down which i'm sure is relevant- i just don't know how to restart it from this window π
the command i usually use to restart the bot is sudo systemctl restart botd, btw
graceful basin
failed means it tried to start and errored out instead
warm briar
oh i see, how do i view the error when i attempt to start it?
graceful basin
systemctl status botd. Ctrl+C will probably get you out of that screen
graceful basin
That is indeed an odd one. Try the restart and see if you get something more useful
warm briar
oop, restarted it and the bot successfully launched lol
just seems very erratic as to when it will and won't work
i tried periodically for like 10 minutes after it went down, left it for a half hour and came back to no issue
graceful basin
That does smell like VSC leaving a bunch of node processes waiting to timeout
warm briar
hmm, you think the initial crash is caused by a ram overload, then?
graceful basin
That would be my assumption
warm briar
i'm not using vscode's ssh to upload any large files like images; just edit code/json remotely
are there some settings i can tweak to lighten the load?
graceful basin
Maybe try setting the env var UV_THREADPOOL_SIZE to 2, but I don't know how much that could help
warm briar
hm, alright. i guess the obvious solution here is just to upgrade to a paid plan haha, maybe that's what i'll end up doing
thank you so much for your help!
graceful basin
I would perhaps look more into just uploading your code to the server and developing on your local machine
sick shadow
https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-26523074
can someone explain to me why I've seen multiple people with the symbols at the end of this guys name? is it like a cult within python discord or what
eager cliff
Easiest way to check is probably to just try program it and see how it goes π
Its lacking the needed port to connect for the reprogramming
Python devs love cats
eager cliff
π
sick shadow
what
warm briar
I would perhaps look more into just uploading your code to the server and develo...
yeah but that's like sooooooooooo much effort
graceful basin
You could try automating by say running rsync on save
fossil solar
Chocolate pizza are not Real pizza
fading agate
So I have a discord / phone setting question:
I have an old iPhone. Whenever I share certain file types it suggests me to share it with Discord (channels and DMs). Is there any way to turn this off??
(I havent put together on which file types it suggests it yet..)
jovial oriole
I'm awake for 18-28 hours at a time
Go
solid elbow
hey godly, you cloned it and had no issues running g++ main.cpp? did you do anyt...
Just cloned it and ran g++ main.cpp, nothing else
grave cove
Does no one here get off discord
funny joke
high haven
someone mustve made this since i dont think sam altman actually has a LI
tardy rain
He's gonna need one now
high haven
He's gonna need one now
π₯
omg im reading this blog and this line killed me:
I'm a substantially less experienced engineer than many of the readers here, but suffice it to say that I can read documentation without panicking, which is considered S-tier in this country.
π π
quick ledge
young shoal
<@182894631921516545> dude this story is getting more and more ridic
what story
high haven
what story
the one im reading
I get a friend of mine hired (big fan of nepotism), and he finds, on day one, a file in the project's repository that deletes prod using our CI/CD pipelines if it is ever moved into the wrong folder. It comes complete with the key and password required for an admin account. It was produced by the former lead engineer, who has moved on to a new role before his sins catch up with him.
The entire thing is stitched together by spreadsheets that are parsed by Python, dropped into S3, parsed by Lambdas into more S3, the S3 files are picked up by MongoDB, then MongoDB records are passed by another Lambda into S3, the S3 files are pulled into Snowflake via Snowpipe, the new Snowflake data is pivoted by a Javascript stored procedure into a relational format... and that's how you edit someone's database access. That whole process is to upload like a 2KB CSV to a database that has people's database roles in it.
This is considered more auditable.
Everything is transformed into a CSV because the security team demanded something that could undergo easy scanning for malicious content, then they never deployed the scanning tool, so we have all the downsides of the CSVs and none of the upsides.
undone thorn
average industry data pipeline 
lament cairn
> I get a friend of mine hired (big fan of nepotism), and he finds, on day one, ...
you have to put actual effort to be this bad at your job
high haven
how long does that take to develop
i would send you the link but im still reading. it hasnt even gotten to the good part yet according to joe reis
young shoal
π₯΄
high haven
you have to put actual effort to be this bad at your job
i mean yeah look at that first paragraph. wild.
jaunty wraith
pandas are an endangered species, robin
young shoal
D:
high haven
What's for lunch
sushi at the jp shop. it was hella good
high haven
oh my lanta. that was a wild af ride
the tldr moment:
I ask management for a 30K raise after saving 500K and my message is still unread. I suspect I will eventually receive either nothing or 5K.
I have even more meetings now because everyone wants to talk about how we saved the money. I had to make a PowerPoint. Kill me.
I would have been better off not doing anything. Let that be a lesson to you. Do you hear me? I applied myself for five minutes against my own better judgement, had the greatest success of my career, and have immediately been punished for it. Learn from my mistakes, I beg of you.
im definitely saving this one
anyway, how he did it basically boils down to snowflake's auto-suspend configurations. just read the docs, peeps. this is mentioned multiple times in the snowflake docs:
jaunty wraith
the tldr moment:
> I ask management for a 30K raise after saving 500K and my me...
people learn that one way or another
rough sapphire
the tldr moment:
> I ask management for a 30K raise after saving 500K and my me...
delete the database and its backups and move to a different country
high haven
delete the database and its backups and move to a different country
ποΈ
young shoal
casually advocates felony
high haven
young shoal
real
high haven
anyway some more reading for the idle lurkers:
hardware update - https://spectrum.ieee.org/generative-ai-training
jaunty wraith
hardware update - https://spectrum.ieee.org/generative-ai-training
where AMD?
high haven
where AMD?
youre funny
high haven
hardware update - https://spectrum.ieee.org/generative-ai-training
Nvidia continued to dominate the MLPerf benchmarks with systems made from its H100 GPUs. But the results from Eos, the companyβs new 10,752-GPU AI supercomputer, were the cherry on top. Bending all those GPUsto the task of the GPT-3 training benchmark, Eos had the job done in just under 4 minutes. Microsoftβs cloud computing arm, Azure, tested a system of the exact same size and were behind Eos by mere seconds. (Azure powers GitHubβs coding assistant CoPilot and OpenAIβs ChatGPT.)
young shoal
π¬ me when i run the pipeline with the wrong parameters so it emails the entire devops team
oops. still wrong parameters
jaunty wraith
bro
high haven
wait youre working on sat
young shoal
i said earlier
high haven
rex i'm pulling an sg
oh you did mention this
but i thought you were half-joking
honestly ill probs have to put in some hours tomorrow
young shoal
oops. still wrong parameters
no. right params. getting a very strange error π
jaunty wraith
working on a Sunday 
young shoal
i guess we're not deploying today
high haven
working on a Sunday <:skullemoji:942224833167634462>
haha i like that emote
young shoal
deploy to the testing machine π¦
moyen how can i kill all processes accessing a certain directory
high haven
you emailed them on a saturday? rip pub
jaunty wraith
lsof
young shoal
i didn't. azure pipelines did
jaunty wraith
L pipeline. should email the triggerer
high haven
you emailed them on a saturday? rip pub
them getting a notif via slack/teams/etc.: ...
some people set that up to notify their mobile too
esp if theyre on a devops team
jaunty wraith
nah
high haven
young shoal
oh, it's an error in the pipeline itself. not my fault π
we're trying to remove files then shut down the server, but the server is still using the files so windows says no
jaunty wraith
wait, is your pipeline FTP'ing?
young shoal
it's installing a universal package
young shoal
no it's a web site
young shoal
it's an azure pipelines thing
young shoal
also, why do you need to⦠shut down the server?
the app server in IIS. so we can mess with the app files
young shoal
thats what we use for ci/cd
L azure devops on god
high haven
well many of the dev teams do
high haven
L azure devops on god
frfr
high haven
well many of the dev teams do
the architect i work with uses codebuild
young shoal
we've started using that recently too
bro why
jaunty wraith
the app server in IIS. so we can mess with the app files
yeah, but why
not our choice
parent company things
young shoal
yeah, but why
to get a newer version for testing
jaunty wraith
wait, do you mean shut down IIS or shut down the machine?
young shoal
the app server in IIS π©
high haven
parent company things
moyen i never officially asked this but are you a devops eng at your company? or a platform dev? or?
jaunty wraith
no
high haven
oh
young shoal
sre
jaunty wraith
read bio please
jaunty wraith
sr
high haven
reading is tough
sre is one of those terms thats dif from company to company
whats it mean here
jaunty wraith
real
jaunty wraith
we don't do onprem
jaunty wraith
yet
high haven
those things are chugging along
jaunty wraith
tuning and auditing use of cloud databases is one of the things we do though
high haven
"we don't know why database servers X, Y, and Z's performance is dipping"
jaunty wraith
I mainly focus on k8s and stuff
jaunty wraith
"we don't know why database servers X, Y, and Z's performance is dipping"
usually because you're not using it right
fr
young shoal
we do on prem a lot. but a lot of migrating to cloud is happening
high haven
usually because you're not using it right
its probably a dev's fault tbh
young shoal
"we don't know why database servers X, Y, and Z's performance is dipping"
the devs
it's always the devs
high haven
some stored procedure doing funky things
jaunty wraith
pub, you're a dev
young shoal
ok and
high haven
we do on prem a lot. but a lot of migrating to cloud is happening
same here but we shall see where everything lands
it's pub's fault
until he becomes responsible for managing the db servers
then he gets to blame others
sterile sapphire
i don't think a role demanding 2+ years of experience is good for someone who's just graduating ... right?
young shoal
no
jaunty wraith
probably not what they're looking for
sterile sapphire
same thoughts here
jaunty wraith
eh
sterile sapphire
i have 5
jaunty wraith
depends on the internships
high haven
also true
sterile sapphire
yeah
young shoal
i don't think internships add up to 2 yoe
sterile sapphire
they don't
young shoal
even if you've had a bunch
sterile sapphire
mine don't at least
high haven
depends on the internships
moyen how long have you been working for? if you dont mind. im curious
young shoal
the type of work you're doing at internships is different, even if the companies say you're doing normal work π©
high haven
high haven
the type of work you're doing at internships is different, even if the companies...
correct
jaunty wraith
moyen how long have you been working for? if you dont mind. im curious
I think I've told you before, smh
only 5 years
high haven
I think I've told you before, smh
whaaa. point it to me
young shoal
moyen's like 30 right
high haven
only 5 years
oh ok gotcha. 5 years is a lot
jaunty wraith
nah
young shoal
5 years for senior is pretty good
high haven
ive technically been working for ~2 years. less if you dont count my internships
but you know on my resume im including that time
jaunty wraith
didn't you start programming only 2 years ago?
high haven
also correct
jaunty wraith
that's pretty good
young shoal
kinda cool, yeah
young shoal
but you can't really count your 2 years in grad school vs my 2 years in hs the same π©
high haven
high haven
but you can't really count your 2 years in grad school vs my 2 years in hs the s...
would you say your 2 years in hs is equal to..?
young shoal
idk like a month?
jaunty wraith
this is a weird comparison to make
young shoal
in total from high school like 2 months
high haven
a month? nah i think you overestimate what happens in grad school
academic coding? cmon pub
we're talking matlab stuff here
young shoal
this is a weird comparison to make
some things are more productive Β―_(γ)_/Β―
well i sent a teams message in the devops chat. we'll see what happens in 2 days π©
high haven
professors love matlab
jaunty wraith
why are you working on a Saturday anyway
young shoal
why are you working on a Saturday anyway
i had exams and stuff to do
high haven
it was not a fun time
jaunty wraith
i had exams and stuff to do
ok and?
young shoal
i want to make money
jaunty wraith
and then my NLP prof loved lisp
were they like really old?
high haven
were they like really old?
not even really. but his past advisor was really old
and they co-wrote a paper together
jaunty wraith
because lisp was very popular for AI in 70s and 80s
high haven
i want to make money
just land that DE internship pub
what was it?
68/hr? or something
young shoal
63
young shoal
or
jaunty wraith
or
young shoal
i couldn't think of a good reason to work there. and i don't lie
jaunty wraith
cap
young shoal
meh
high haven
i see
okay one last reading for the lurkers:
if youre into data systems, esp serverless ones - https://jack-vanlightly.com/blog/2023/11/14/the-architecture-of-serverless-data-systems
oh a wild sg has appeared
you were mentioned earlier
kinda
jaunty wraith
super glow
worthy lily
Hello everyone! How are you today?
naive igloo
enough.
naive igloo
Hello everyone! How are you today?
you?
thick ore
is it really possible to tell how we are, today?
how unexpected and vague, the term "today"
high haven
have him sign your forehead
no but fr i need to have something for him to sign
young shoal
signed FoDE
high haven
lmao i already have that
high haven
and those arent my favorite favorite podcasts
this is my number one favorite podcaster
high haven
joe reis
incorrect
let me say it one more time pub
joe reis is not my favorite podcaster
young shoal
damn
young shoal
wow rex origin story
young shoal
kinda clever name
high haven
listened to every single episode so far
ye
@young shoal dont give the pleading face, theres more than one in this bucket
young shoal
the career change?
high haven
1.5 years is how long it took me to get through grad school (round 2)
high haven
summer classes?
summer classes + front-loading.
young shoal
sheesh
young shoal
did you predict this outcome
high haven
otherwise id burnout ||been there done that||
high haven
did you predict this outcome
what outcome?
young shoal
being mellow
young shoal
i've already realized i'm not really smart enough for the cool programming jobs, so i need to find something to settle on yk
thick osprey
What are cool programming jobs and where can I find them?
young shoal
"if you have to ask.."
tardy rain
Its for when you have 5+ years exp
thick osprey
"if you have to ask.."
Then someone might know?
young shoal
no
vale raven
Then someone might know?
Then Pub will bully you.
high haven
i've already realized i'm not really smart enough for the cool programming jobs,...
like building wacky distributed systems?
young shoal
the quant type jobs yk
young shoal
well i kinda gave up
thick osprey
Then Pub will bully you.
They do this for free anyway.
young shoal
so it's distributed systems now i think π€
vale raven
i've already realized i'm not really smart enough for the cool programming jobs,...
I've already realized I'm not really smart enough for the standard programming jobs
That's half the reason I'm leaning into sysadmin
vale raven
They do this for free anyway.
True
Is there any way to fix it?
young shoal
π
thick osprey
True
Is there any way to fix it?
Could try asking for a refund.
vale raven
<:DoggoKek:793694825446768711>
vale raven
Could try asking for a refund. <:pithink:652247559909277706>
Lets see
@young shoal I want a refund.
young shoal
store policy says no
vale raven
Never seen a personal OneDrive link in the wild before
wanton delta
I've already realized I'm not really smart enough for the standard programming j...
How smart do you have to be?
vale raven
aww shit here we go
wanton delta
I recognize that link see you this afternoon
With altmans debacle
And copilot crap
vale raven
jesus hecking dog
wanton delta
Ill wait for your summary π
Jk i wont even read it
vale raven
Ill wait for your summary π
Jk i wont even read it
I'll just let Copilot summarize it
thick osprey
_jesus hecking dog_
Large font? I'm looking at 36k words right now and those tally into just 104 paperback pages.
vale raven
Large font? I'm looking at 36k words right now and those tally into just 104 pap...
many many many many many MANY images
Pages 100 - 158 are "Appendix A -- Important images", with nothing but 1 - 3 images per page
wanton delta
"Important images"
civic pasture
Hahahahaha did you enjoy @vale raven
sterile sapphire
yay
both my profs cancelled class on monday
i can just relax and do my interviews
uneven pine
I get Thanksgiving Day off of work this year
low chasm
nice
strong haven
Does anyone have experience working with Point Grey's FlyCapture2?
swift portal
User-Friendly Interface, Process management, Multitasking, Network management, Etc
brazen ingot
@tranquil orchid you winning the cricket part π
acoustic moss
f
edgy crest
f
low chasm
<@284565640684109824> you winning the cricket part π
π©
tranquil orchid
<@284565640684109824> you winning the cricket part π
Yeah just the usual
brazen ingot
lilac ginkgo
HI
ruby fox
vale raven
<@285152779465654272> did you see github blocks are dying
I did not
I was just thinking the other day that I never head anything else about it
small coral
@crystal spruce
crystal spruce
i'll be honest, if i had to guess i would've thought that was your elbow
crystal spruce
ohh is it on your wrist?
small coral
yea
small coral
what's weird is that my right hand doesn't have it
crystal spruce
feels like a bone i think
median domeBOT
small coral
it's so old it contained my old pseudoname
crystal spruce
damn nice
jovial oriole
why does he not have the cpython contributor role or smth
Core developer
acoustic moss
it's so old it contained my old pseudoname
man wanted to close the pr every 2 comments π
sterile sapphire
i'm an idiot
i bought a ds/algos course in python
doesn't even cover
ARRAYS
smh
high haven
conned
high haven
@pulsar heart https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/20/23968829/microsoft-hires-sam-altman-greg-brockman-employees-openai
microsoft: ||surprise b*tches ||
young shoal
lmao
sterile sapphire
pulsar heart
<@935270247366271027> https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/20/23968829/microsoft-hir...
I saw it. I literally have a referral at Microsoft. This is crazy. I'm 1000x more motivated to try my best to get in.
high haven
I saw it. I literally have a referral at Microsoft. This is crazy. I'm 1000x mor...
dude good luck
pulsar heart
Is not just Sam, it's Sam & friends
high haven
yeah i mean good chunk of openai staff is probably hopping over
pulsar heart
can i have the source
wanton delta
thanks
pulsar heart
The person posting is legit
wanton delta
openai is probably done for
sterile sapphire
goodbye my biz majors
who extensively rely on chat gpt
or as psvm calls it
chat gippity
pulsar heart
Ilya, in a move to push for AI safety, has just bled all the talent onto a bigN company. Yikes.
high haven
its their own fault smh
pulsar heart
Seems like Microsoft is the big winner
young shoal
microsoft casually scooping up all the employees for free
wanton delta
microsoft is pushing copilot, and win over half of the teams that made it possible
uno reverse got reversed to the board
wanton delta
microsoft casually scooping up all the employees for free
ingeneious
acoustic moss
best tech drama in recent times ngl
pulsar heart
I'm tryna find someone who is completely unaware of all this, and get an opinion for this new short story for a silicone valley episode.
Fr shouldn't be that hard, whole thing is what, 3 days old ?
high haven
honestly agree with comment. from my friend who linked me this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38347868
Hacker News
high haven
Holy sssh why is my rust project dir 10gb
holy ssh
im stealing this line
wanton delta
5 bucks
jaunty wraith
wanton delta
sucks to be at the bottom of the food chain
low chasm
you can have a cut
thanks
wanton delta
Its mine though
wanton delta
Lmaoooo this aint real life
OpenAI employee signing out and both msft and nvidia are both hiring
high haven
<:lemon_angrysad:817323592693841961>
sorry your cut got stolen
acoustic moss
NVIDIA has warm GPUs for you
outer sundial
!e @high verge I managed to make this mess that seems to work ```py
from dataclasses import dataclass, asdict
def test(old_class):
old_class = dataclass(old_class)
bases = []
for base in old_class.bases:
if hasattr(base, "source_class"):
bases.append(base.source_class)
else:
bases.append(base)
old_class = type(old_class.name, tuple(bases), dict(vars(old_class)))
class new_class(old_class):
source_class = old_class
def new(cls, string_to_process: str) -> dict:
result = string_to_process.split() # example processing
return asdict(old_class(*result))
return new_class
@test
class A:
data: str
@test
class B(A):
data2: str
print(A("test"))
print(B("test1 test2"))
@outer sundial :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {'data': 'test'}
002 | {'data': 'test1', 'data2': 'test2'}
high verge
!e <@979166206420467733> I managed to make this mess that seems to work ```py
fr...
i finally did it... but prepare for this monstrosity @late orchid:
def cstruct(data_format: str, byte_order: str = "little"):
def decorate(cls):
struct_format = data_format
base_class = cls.__base__
if base_class is not object and hasattr(base_class, "primitive_format"):
struct_format = base_class.primitive_format + data_format
old_class = cls
newclass_bases = []
for base in old_class.__bases__:
if hasattr(base, "source_class"):
newclass_bases.append(base.source_class)
else:
newclass_bases.append(base)
cls_dict = dict(cls.__dict__)
cls_dict.pop("__dict__", None)
old_class = type(cls.__name__, tuple(newclass_bases), cls_dict)
setattr(old_class, "__annotations__", cls.__annotations__)
old_class = dataclass(old_class)
class newclass(old_class):
source_class = old_class
primitive_format = struct_format
data_byte_order = byte_order
def __post_init__(self):
dataclass_values = [i[0] for i in dataclasses.asdict(self).values()]
setattr(self, "meta", _collect_metadata(self))
# this probably isn't the most elegant way to do this
setattr(
self.__class__,
"__getitem__",
lambda zelf, item: dataclass_values[item],
)
setattr(self.__class__, "__repr__", lambda zelf: repr(self.meta))
setattr(self.__class__, "__str__", lambda zelf: str(self.meta))
def __new__(_cls, stream, offset: int = -1):
self = super().__new__(_cls)
_cls.__init__(
self, None, **(_read_cstruct(_cls, stream, offset=offset))
)
return self
newclass = dataclass(newclass)
newclass_init = newclass.__init__
def _init(self, stream, *args, **kwargs):
if stream is not None:
return
newclass_init(self, *args, **kwargs)
newclass.__init__ = _init
return newclass
return decorate
@cstruct("II(0)c(0)UI")
class test:
a: int
b: int
c: list # is pad byte
d: list
e: x
@cstruct("B")
class test2(test):
f: int
x = io.BytesIO(bytes.fromhex("02000000 00000000 01 00 ffff03 feff03 01000000 01"))
y = test(x)
z = test2(x)
print(y.d)
print(z.f)
output:
[65535, 65534]
1
yes
help
outer sundial
Looks like I had the right idea in the end, just needed all the polish
high verge
Looks like I had the right idea in the end, just needed all the polish
thank you so much for all the help you and etrotta
outer sundial
π
high verge
y
yes ty princess 
now i go break this more and find more bugs
honestly im not sure how i would break this it all works fine now ig
shrewd thunder
well, on-call is off to a great start. Already been called by people asking for support with things we have sent out memos explicitly saying we're not helping with until January.
On-call starts tomorrow btw.
late orchid
i finally did it... but prepare for this monstrosity <@256442550683041793>:
```p...
congratulations, that is even more cursed than most of the things you see in #esoteric-python
the worst of all just might be the setattr(self.__class__, ...) though. Just define it like normal methods, you're already creating a new class anyway? Or does it have some reason to be inside of post_init? If the later, are you sure it will not break depending on the order you instanciate things?
high verge
congratulations, that is even more cursed than most of the things you see in <#4...
oh, yeah. i just wanted to get a poc working and clean up afterwards
but rn im celebrating my victory on this so i'll continue tomorrow and push my commits tomorrow as well
late orchid
just make sure that it is in fact working first, and will not fail edge cases
crystal spruce
!e
print(*['hello world']*2, sep='\n')
@crystal spruce :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | hello world
002 | hello world
get owned
crystal spruce
no thanks
crystal spruce
there's probably a complex analysis method or something, but I've narrowed it down to decomposing an nth derivative of a laurent polynomial into a linear combination of certain laurent polynomials
I just don't know which ones/how to do it, so I'd like something I can play around with in python
solemn tulip
does expanding the cos help any?
crystal spruce
could probably use sympy, but I like doing it myself
crystal spruce
does expanding the cos help any?
first step is that yeah
the arctan you can use the complex logarithm definition and use cos x = Re(exp(ix)) to simplify out
and then you get two separate integrals from the sin and cos
which actually are just successive derivatives of one integral
and they're weighted by binomial coefficients as well, which makes it really cool since leibniz product rule applies
and you can use it in the reverse direction
solemn tulip
the arctan you can use the complex logarithm definition and use cos x = Re(exp(i...
or just know that the inverses have nice formulas
crystal spruce
.latex oh and I used
[
\frac{\Gamma(n)}{(1+x^2)^n}=\int_0^\infty t^{n-1}e^{-(1+x^2)t},\mathrm dt
]
at some point
median domeBOT
solemn tulip
cos(arctan(x))
"for a triangle that has b/a = x, what is c/a?"
crystal spruce
yeah but for cos(n arctan x)
solemn tulip
yeah but for cos(n arctan x)
ah, right
solemn tulip
@crystal spruce do you know if there exists any nice answer?
violating your constraints slightly and picking Ξ±=Ξ²=0 even then the answer isn't nice
but maybe because it's some terrible expression including ||erf||
crystal spruce
<@395901889046249475> do you know if there exists any nice answer?
n=2, alpha=2, beta=2 yields 2sqrt(pi)/3e
which I have a proof of
if the cosine is gone
crystal spruce
but maybe because it's some terrible expression including ||erf||
ok yeah this is cursed
there's a sequence of numbers