ot1-perplexing-regexing

[harsh tundra]

You didn't write content of the message nor chose a tag

And the error is clear, the file is not there

[rough ridge]

can you please see the source code for me?

[harsh tundra]

There's no problem in the source code, the problem is the path to the file - it's wrong

[rough ridge]

bro idk python thats why im here

😭

[harsh tundra]

It literally says "no such file or directory" in the error

[steady ore]

I'm assuming $file is a bash variable

[harsh tundra]

This is not a problem with python but with your terminal

[cobalt remnant]

Did you save?

[rough ridge]

:/

[harsh tundra]

Did you save in the exact location where the $file is pointing to?

[rough ridge]

bro i just forked it

and got this error

after running it

[steady ore]

It's not really python issue

[rough ridge]

Im.not making

just copying

[rough ridge]

can you help me i can invite you in repl

[cobalt remnant]

The problem with getting help in pydis or ot: everyone will help you.

[rough ridge]

can you help me i can invite you in repl

[cobalt remnant]

they don't have a choice.

[rough ridge]

no pls...

@cobalt remnant can you help me i can invite you in repl

[harsh tundra]

And clearly the files are not in the location where your variable points to

[rough ridge]

how to fix?

[harsh tundra]

Check where the code actually is and use that path

[cobalt remnant]

you may even be able to just do python3 main.py

[rough ridge]

so i need to configure new run cmd?

[rough ridge]

okay

[cobalt remnant]

assuming it's in the same directory

though it could be named bot.py

[rough ridge]

files

[cobalt remnant]

it's probably fs_bot.py

[harsh tundra]

There is no main.py file here

You can't run file that is not even there

[distant pebble]

hello pls help

[rough ridge]

okay so python3 fs_bot.py?

[rough ridge]

eh

[distant pebble]

how to add python to path windows10? im new to python and pc

[rough ridge]

@cobalt remnant

[reef geyser]

You have better luck just using the py launcher that comes with the windows releases of Python.

[cobalt remnant]

This program probably has extra steps to configure it

you can't just run a python bot with no preparation and expect it to work

[rough ridge]

can you join rn?

[cobalt remnant]

no

[reef geyser]

In the installer though, it's a checkbox. You'll see it when you run it. @distant pebble

[rough ridge]

pls?

[cobalt remnant]

read the documentation for the bot you're using.

if there is any

[rough ridge]

nope

empty

https://replit.com/join/nndcxklvef-seemagupta14

@cobalt remnant please.

🫂

[distant pebble]

i dont understand dman

never mind thanks

[rough ridge]

oh wait omg someone in project

[solemn tulip]

inb4 someone jumps in and just deletes everything

[rough ridge]

👀

[solemn tulip]

maybe reach out to the author

clearly some setup is needed

a file it expects to exist doesn't

we can't really help much with that

[rough ridge]

:(

[cobalt remnant]

This is kind of like calling Google because your iPhone broke.

They'll try to help, but at the end of the day, they can't do anything to fix it except sell you a Pixel.

[rough ridge]

uhh

Kakalord?

@kakalord

@cobalt remnant is it you in project?

@harsh tundra is it you in project?

[harsh tundra]

What project?

[rough ridge]

in that replit project

someone is helping me

[harsh tundra]

I just exited my diagnostics procedure and my arm looks like it belongs to a zombie. I have no idea what project

[rough ridge]

ah okay

@solemn tulip is it you in project?

[steady ore]

Dude you're missing the json file

[steady ore]

I ain't going to guess step by step what the json file should look like

[rough ridge]

uh yes..

[steady ore]

Even for my own personal use I wouldn't do it

[rough ridge]

np bro tysm for your time

🫂

best guy ever

ngl

[steady ore]

if you get the json file it should run

Or at least a vague idea of what it supposed to contain (which you can, via the code)

[rough ridge]

okay :D i will get a new code

tysm

[steady ore]

Np ig

[sullen pier]

why are nuclear power plants called "plants"?
i thought plants are green things that grow out of soil

[dapper dew]

"plant" can also mean factory / production facility

[young shoal]

but why?

[proven ermine]

latin probably

[young shoal]

I guess plants take stuff and produce stuff, like a factory

[dapper dew]

I never really thought about it before

But this looks like a decent answer https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/257863/what-is-the-difference-between-plant-mill-and-factory

[young shoal]

oh great,a place with a process

[rough sapphire]

@reef geyser sorry i havent been so active here lately, how are you! its everything all right?

[reef geyser]

I'm fine. Just trying to crank out a working lexer today.

I want my tokens and I want them emitted now

[rough sapphire]

oh you are always working hard

i hope ill be like you in the future

[rough sapphire]

how are you doing with memory management techiniques

[reef geyser]

Not too worried about that at the moment, actually. I was just curious about the rabbit hole that's going to be soon.

[eternal depot]

Lex Luther was a working Lexer

[reef geyser]

Lex Luthor
and his brother,
Abstract Syntax Tree Luthor

[naive igloo]

wait what is a lexer

[glossy niche]

fancy term for regex that PL theory nerds came up with

[naive igloo]

on a serious note

wtf does it do

[quasi blaze]

I’m still happy that I got a job in tech

[young shoal]

you should be

but don't get complacent!

[quasi blaze]

I am not after the dream I had last night

[young shoal]

you should learn about looping

[glossy niche]

it basically breaks text into tokens and passes it to the parser

it's full name.is "lexical analyser"

lexer for short

it's a lot simpler but also less powerful than a parser

[naive igloo]

wait but what is the parser doing then?

innit that what parser does

[eternal depot]

No.. parsers parse. Lexers lex.

[naive igloo]

huh....

does it mean whole that time i tried making a parser with a lexer in it?

[graceful basin]

Essentially, it is easier to define your grammar on something other than characters. Your grammar doesn't care whether a letter is A, it cares whether it has an identifier

[graceful basin]

It is likely. It is also doable, though you will end up spamming a lot of whitespace allowed here markers generally

[naive igloo]

actually i think my markdown engine got a lexer in it

i just named that part as "splitting"

[glossy niche]

I learned all this in a Compilers course at uni, the text book was the so called dragon book

from the 80s or sth

fun book ngl

[graceful basin]

The dragon book is great, yeah

I would recommend crafting interpreters instead, it is shorter

[naive igloo]

hm?

[naive igloo]

i am not at uni

i didnt even finish school yet

[stiff siren]

who gave you permission to talk to me? Science? that is what i thought

[runic plinth]

Awww GOOD NEWS

What a cute lil puppy

[wanton delta]

Bless the smug pug

The smug

[naive igloo]

import dontimport
illegal

[grave cove]

puppy ‼️

[rough sapphire]

i saw your face reflection in your nails

get doxed

[grave cove]

well, i recognized that dust particle on the floor. omw to your house

[quasi blaze]

The shadow is even in literature. How interesting.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

[grave cove]

never heard of them

but pretty much everything is in literature

[crystal spruce]

wait how have you not heard of dr jekyll and mr hyde

[kindred orbit]

who is mr hyde

who is jekyll

[grave cove]

https://jekyllrb.com/

[kindred orbit]

seems like this thing will take me a majestic amount of time to use it

[worldly ice]

5lb burrito maybe was a bad idea

[glossy niche]

you alr know rust, most work force adults don't do that, you can read a compiler book or 2 probably

[fathom musk]

But you are the baker not the bread?

[naive igloo]

maybe i will

but first i will fuck around myself

[fathom musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/393846237255696387/1156476475034304603/v12044gd0000ck9jhf3c77u1ckiv5k20.mp4?ex=65151c25&is=6513caa5&hm=4679177475a5bf98be7b8d5db2b39e2896821dd46005bcd08fe2be32ccd45aa1&

[tulip falcon]

That's barely USB C if it can't do output

[wanton delta]

the iOS crowd just entered civilization

[uneven pine]

"power"
-> JavaScript

It tracks though. Using the worst piece of shit language on the worst piece of shit device

[harsh tundra]

I love when iPhone fanbase just gets really hyped and often smug about the features iPhone gets, and most android users are like... "we had that??? Why are you still acting like you're better when you're literally years behind???"

[rough sapphire]

i miss the nokia brick phpne

[wanton delta]

thank god my peers all use android

[rough sapphire]

iphone 15 added a overheating feature this year

android had that wayback

[naive igloo]

bruh

[tulip falcon]

The narrator sounds like his sentence is somewhere between a question and a statement and neither at the same time, maybe unlike any sentence I've heard lmao

Still gets me hours later

[carmine bane]

Android is testing grounds for new Apple features

That's all we are to Apple

[young shoal]

based and capitalism pilled

[carmine bane]

Cringe and Android better

🥱

[young shoal]

if you need financial assistance, I can help you out man

[carmine bane]

Just waiting for Google to release the next Pixel

[carmine bane]

Send 1 million dola

[young shoal]

they're up to 8 now right?

[carmine bane]

I thought 7 was the last one

[hybrid root]

next is 8

[young shoal]

yeah that's what I meant

[carmine bane]

Oh you can preorder 8 now

Wow

[hybrid root]

what

i didnt even know it was announced

[young shoal]

I honestly don't understand what they're changing to release new phones

[carmine bane]

I have 6 Pro right now and the 7 is literally identical to 6

[hybrid root]

p6 and 7 got some real good tpus iirc

[young shoal]

what's a tpu

[carmine bane]

No clue

[hybrid root]

the pixel 7 has the tensor G2 https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Google_Tensor

which i have

my old phone was so bad idk how much it differs from p6 though lol

all i know is it's good

[naive igloo]

for ML

[carmine bane]

Tensor Pricessinf Unit

Processingn

[naive igloo]

Tensor Processing Unit

:)

[carmine bane]

Interesting

[young shoal]

why does my phone need that

[hybrid root]

AI™️

[carmine bane]

I say that to every new iPhone feature

[naive igloo]

local google translate with a quality of a cloud one

local STT

local google assistant

faster google cam(?)

[carmine bane]

True the voice to text recognition is fucking amazing on this phone

[hybrid root]

yes it's honestly quite incredible

[naive igloo]

and also i believe you fuck around enough with termux and some ABI

you can even use it for own purposes

[hybrid root]

like I can just talk and it'll get pretty much every single word that I say and it has pretty much the exact same fidelity as whisperX IMO

[carmine bane]

Yep

I don't have to put on a voice like if I'm talking to Siri

[hybrid root]

not as many punctuation marks though

Yes

[carmine bane]

It's really really good especially when driving too

[young shoal]

interesting

[carmine bane]

My dad's getting a Pixel just because of the voice to text thing. Since he takes a bajillion notes through voice to text

[naive igloo]

i wanna get next phone pixel

because:

1. it has a more pure android
2. cam

[hybrid root]

The camera is also very good

not like iPhone quality I think but it's very good

[naive igloo]

cuz google cam

however

[carmine bane]

Idk about the 7/8, but for the 6 it's not as consistent as iPhone. Better than iPhone in some situations, absolute shit in others.

[naive igloo]

imo Samsung, iPhone and Pixel are all on like on par

for photos

[hybrid root]

pretty much

[naive igloo]

for videos however... i am pretty sure iPhone is still the answer

dont know about situation on samsung side tho

[hybrid root]

All of the voice features are available in everything else. like the recorder can use your voice and generates a and generates a description for it. it's also used in a the phone voicemail I think

[carmine bane]

The processing of pictures on the 6 is too much

[hybrid root]

as you can see, the common denominator now is just that I stutter a lot

[carmine bane]

I end up taking photos on Instagram and saving it

And the photos look great

[naive igloo]

would be really nice if modern phones would allow forcing it to process the image less

cuz i find my phone REALLY likes to overexpose and oversaturate stuff

[carmine bane]

Yeah that would be awesome

[hybrid root]

My phone used to oversaturate too it was really annoying

[naive igloo]

however i can't really blame it for overexposure

because in some (lots) exposure level 0 is like based on fucking shadow

on my dslr i find i have to do smth around -1.2 exposure level to be more or less reasonable

but that doesnt apply for oversaturstion tho :b

[naive igloo]

used to?

[hybrid root]

I know this doesn't really apply to the hardware but I really enjoy their material you design system

[hybrid root]

well the one now it just sometimes it just like oversharpens slightly but I don't get any oversaturation anymore

[naive igloo]

i also like google's UI design

[carmine bane]

Yeah

[naive igloo]

improvement 👍

[carmine bane]

Very intuitive and simple

[naive igloo]

i wonder if i shot in "professional" does it do as much post processing?

i am on smasnug btw

[carmine bane]

Shot in professional?

[naive igloo]

uhh

"PRO" mode

basically you manually set exposure time, ISO speed

and white balance

[naive igloo]

it doesnt do any post processing at all

[hybrid root]

AND I have NEVER had the UI freeze on me to make it literally impossible to use the phone

which was an issue on my old phone

[naive igloo]

and focus

[naive igloo]

neither it is an issue on mine

[hybrid root]

for some reason I haven't been able to find those kinds of settings on the pixel camera

default app at least

[carmine bane]

Yeah

Granted I almost never take pics so never explored this stuff

[hybrid root]

I was able to find the exposure and brightness and stuff like that but not like f stops and ISO speed and that kind of stuff

[naive igloo]

f stops neither do i have

i misspoke at first

[solemn tulip]

the sparkles they had in a few versions killed me

[hybrid root]

the video on this thing is also nice

[hybrid root]

like plugging stuff in lol?

[naive igloo]

its in russian tho

[solemn tulip]

also when you hold on something so it highlights

[hybrid root]

oh I only get sparkles when I plug it in. I like it

[naive igloo]

on samsung cam i find quite funny to play with "multishot" mode

[carmine bane]

I don't get the hold on something sparkles

[solemn tulip]

it seems the sparkes have been toned down over time

I remember some pretty early version where it was so obnoxious

that's or I have very boring taste in ui

[carmine bane]

My only issue with my Pixel is battery life

[hybrid root]

mine usually lasts the day

[carmine bane]

It can't survive a 6 hour drive

So I need to bring a power bank

[hybrid root]

you referring to this?

[solemn tulip]

https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/18/screen-20210518-200959_3.mp4

[hybrid root]

oh

oh yeah

I sped up some of the animation scales in dev options

not snappy enough

[solemn tulip]

they seem mostly gone in 14

[young shoal]

yikes

[carmine bane]

@spare oriole what happened

@spare oriole ????

[high haven]

[grave cove]

[high haven]

robin

[grave cove]

rex

[high haven]

i have a dilemma

[carmine bane]

@spare oriole bruh

Blocked af

[high haven]

wilder seems to have a different type of dilemma

[grave cove]

rex's lemma?

[high haven]

no

[grave cove]

sadge

[high haven]

lemma is too close to lemmatization which is an nlp thing

so no

[young shoal]

what's lemmatization

[spare oriole]

basically breaking down words to their root meanings

[young shoal]

ridiculous

[spare oriole]

what? would you prefer to be broken down instead?

[carmine bane]

This man pinged me to do nothing bruh

[young shoal]

wilder: I'd love to be broken 😳

[spare oriole]

wilder's parents wish they had another son that'd make them proud

[spare oriole]

i never pinged you

[carmine bane]

Banned

Reported

[carmine bane]

My daddy breaks me in everyday

[young shoal]

so true

[high haven]

psv why do you always ask these google-able questions my friend

[carmine bane]

My new contractor forgot her password to GitHub

[high haven]

[carmine bane]

So I'm sitting here

[high haven]

classic

[carmine bane]

Watching her reset it

[young shoal]

do I look like I have access to Google

[carmine bane]

No

You belong in the streets!

For the streets!

Rat!

[young shoal]

D:

[high haven]

[young shoal]

rude!

[carmine bane]

Ok I think she's in

Cya guys

[young shoal]

wilder: she's in

[high haven]

bye

[young shoal]

bye

[high haven]

i had some memes but sg and edd are probs busy

[young shoal]

😔

[high haven]

i guess this means you dont want to see the memes

probs not since only alt-psv would like them

[young shoal]

it didn't seem like you were going to send them

[high haven]

you are correct

[young shoal]

😭

[spare oriole]

ofc, she has a bigger carrot than wilder

[high haven]

fine fine

just remember to call out alt-psv

[young shoal]

of course

[young shoal]

resume driven development moment

is this alt psv or just psv

[high haven]

thats the real question

[young shoal]

did you know that digital ocean has managed kafka now

[high haven]

oh?

interesting

[young shoal]

it's for rich people though

[high haven]

rich people or enterprises

[young shoal]

i think it's like 140+ a month

[high haven]

yeah thats nothing for enterprises

[young shoal]

i can't afford lunch and my overengineered project if i keep getting forced to pay for this stuff 😩

[high haven]

bruh

why no aws free tier

[young shoal]

well i'm on credits but they're quickly running out

[high haven]

what are you doing

sounds like you need some finops

[young shoal]

also i'm already using zeromq so i probably don't need kafka

what does finops do 😩

[high haven]

fancy word for cloud cost management

[young shoal]

huh

why don't you make the engineers do that

[high haven]

they are supposed to

well

theres always that product / platform divide

and then you also get into reserved instances territory

and then theres that other thing

where like the cloud vendors have dif price points depending on how much utilization you have for various services

idk dont ask me

but i know its a thing

[young shoal]

huh

[high haven]

bc the devops team was working with the aws folks on that

[high haven]

something something you get lower pricing bc you hit certain thresholds

[young shoal]

huhh

[high haven]

its better if you have stable, predictable workloads something something

[young shoal]

oh that makes sense

can you have customized things like high cpu bursts but really low on average

[high haven]

idk talk to an aws sales eng

im sure they have all sorts of custom plans

[young shoal]

😩

[high haven]

for their big customers

[young shoal]

i'll just have to become a big customer 😤

yeah i mean at a certain point i'm sure everything is all customized

[high haven]

🦾

[young shoal]

like surely they get some deal instead of just putting all the sliders to max or something

[high haven]

oh yeah probs

[young shoal]

that sounds so annoying

[carmine bane]

My contractor getting ahead of herself

Wew

[young shoal]

is that good

[carmine bane]

We will see

She started proposing all kinds of solutions that fixed other problems but not the problem she's working on

I was like

Uhh

She seems really nice and hardworking though

Really chill to work with her

Maybe it's something she picked up at her last company

[high haven]

just dont be a sales eng?

[young shoal]

yeah but might not i have to deal with buying this stuff

[carmine bane]

She seems one dimensional kinda too

But I'm unsure

Too little data

[high haven]

just dont be a CTO or VP of tech

jk you will probably have to regardless

[high haven]

after a couple meetings, youll probs get more info

[carmine bane]

I'm surprised since she has like 10+ YOE

[high haven]

hmm have you pointed this out, maybe she thinks that fixing more problems > than that one problem

[carmine bane]

Yeah I have

I just said these don't fix the problem at hand

[high haven]

maybe you need to write the problem down for her? esp if its a complex problem

[carmine bane]

It's her first ticket. We gave her something easy

[high haven]

ah

[carmine bane]

She's overcomplicating it herself

[high haven]

welp

[carmine bane]

We will see

[high haven]

[young shoal]

😔

[stiff siren]

@young shoal the xbox kinect light is on i think it was watching me

[jovial oriole]

It is

[jovial oriole]

Its sending your webcam info to aws servers so machine learning models can predict what products to advertise to you

[rough sapphire]

guys... is this true

[quasi blaze]

Is there a better way to say “go with the flow”?

[grave cove]

roll with the punches

[latent wolf]

no it is the best way

https://tenor.com/view/flow-dance-spongebob-weird-gif-11829602

[quasi blaze]

I see.

[quasi blaze]

I was looking for a word that’s the antithesis of having expectations from the beginning to the end.

[rough sapphire]

uhhh

hmmmm

not having expectations? ;-;

[quasi blaze]

Yes

[latent wolf]

flow

[rough sapphire]

keezy

do you know about

hagelian dialectics

[quasi blaze]

No why?

[rough sapphire]

i got reminded of them when you said antithesis

its like... two bad things crash and die to create a good thing

idk i learned abt it from fallout

[quasi blaze]

“Letting things unfold” as a replacement for “Go with the flow.”

[grave cove]

let it cook

[jovial oriole]

Literally me (this has never happened to me i just have a crippling nicotine addiction)

[wanton delta]

🤝

I occasionally do the do but i dont think its an addiction

Since i can forget about it

[rough sapphire]

hi

guys i have a question

when we turn letter into bit form do we turn its unicode form into bits?

like for example

"a" has unicode 97

do we turn 97 into bit form?

is that how that happens

[tulip falcon]

Oh noes plz quit

[tulip falcon]

bin() for binary?

[grave cove]

Pretty much

[rough sapphire]

i dont think we can bin() a letter

thanks robin

!e
print(bin("a"))

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(bin("a"))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^
005 | TypeError: 'str' object cannot be interpreted as an integer

[rough sapphire]

yeah

!e
print(bin(ord("a")))

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1100001

[rough sapphire]

i can remove the 0b with the format command i think

guys im advanced

[wanton delta]

Yes you are

[acoustic moss]

its kinda the other way round
we choose to interpret a sequence of voltage levels as a sequence of 0s and 1s, sometimes we interpret that sequence as the binary form of an integer, and interpret that integer being 97 to mean the letter 'a'

[rough sapphire]

uhm

is this a joke ;-;

[acoustic moss]

no??

[rough sapphire]

okay sorry

[acoustic moss]

despite my general shitposty nature i am occasionally informative

[rough sapphire]

hsp

[grave cove]

chat is this real

[rough sapphire]

hsp did you just explain how computers work

[acoustic moss]

yea

[rough sapphire]

i cant make fun of you cuz ur a mod

[grave cove]

1984

[warped sentinel]

you totally can at least once

[acoustic moss]

agreed

[wanton delta]

Yesn'tes

[grave cove]

watch this

@acoustic moss you smell stinky

[rough sapphire]

how to get banned tutorial

[acoustic moss]

wtf

[tulip falcon]

Python no have char type

[rough sapphire]

it has strings

[grave cove]

What would a char type give you that a string doesn't

[rough sapphire]

a char

is it pronounced car or shar

[grave cove]

it's pronounced like care

[tulip falcon]

Hot takes

[grave cove]

am I wrong though

[acoustic moss]

str wouldnt be an instance of Iterable[str]

[grave cove]

That's how you pronounce character

[tulip falcon]

Yes

You're missing an H

[grave cove]

the h is almost silent in character

[tulip falcon]

But not when it's called char

that's ch-are

[acoustic moss]

rare robin W

[quasi blaze]

This is seriously insulting

[grave cove]

ok bro

[quasi blaze]

I have a job now but still

[grave cove]

we finna throw fists fr

[rough sapphire]

"finna"

[tulip falcon]

throw fistExxeption

[tulip falcon]

Lol I fought this guy on my bus one time I was like "imma finna kick your ass" and he made fun of that right before I jumped on him

[rough sapphire]

the most violent pydis member

[tulip falcon]

[rough sapphire]

im curious who won the fight

[tulip falcon]

His punches felt like pillows

some kid punched me in fourth grade "heard you were talking shit about me" and it was like a pillow hit me in the back of the head, I was like "what the fuck" to my teacher like did you just see that?

[rough sapphire]

sorrow would i win in a fight against you?

[tulip falcon]

Have you ever been in one?

[grave cove]

would you win a fight against a giraffe is my question

[tulip falcon]

This guy who stabbed my friend tried to jump my friend and I after school one time

[rough sapphire]

no im shy

[tulip falcon]

well it was 2v2

[rough sapphire]

who won

[tulip falcon]

He was like hey kid and said something about my mom and i said no u

[edgy crest]

its like char-mander

[rough sapphire]

i read it like car-mander lmao

[tulip falcon]

I uppercut that Zane kid in the jaw and he was done trying to mess with me, I look over and my friend bashed the other kid in the head with a skateboard

[rough sapphire]

sorrow wtf

[grave cove]

[tulip falcon]

If u gotta glass jaw you should watch yo mouth

[rough sapphire]

its not about the jaw its about the neck muscles

i think

[tulip falcon]

He grabbed my shirt and tore it I forgot

Stevie griffin shirt

This was in like fourth or fifth grade

Fun times

It was raw back then

Skin your knee on the blacktop

[rough sapphire]

not my mans stewie griffin!!

[tulip falcon]

Listen to me reminisce about the good times like an old man

I can't fight nothing now

Just pull my piece if ya catch my drift

Fighting isn't worth it

It's a kids game

This isn't like the 90s where shit was crazy

U go to jail for a long time for barely doing anything these days

Oppressive law

I'll be a good boy and code shit thank you very much

[rough sapphire]

sorrow

have you ever killed someone?

[tulip falcon]

Hahahahahahaha. No.

I laughed out loud at that

I've had people confess those kind of things to me before

It would weigh on your brain a lot to have done that

Which is why they need to tell someone

Same thing with really anything people do that is taboo, they can't ever talk about it

[rough sapphire]

uhm i have a weird question to ask

do you want to do it?

or like think about it a lot?

[small coral]

@fathom musk yep

[fathom musk]

Hm?

[small coral]

other account here

just wanted to answer

[kindred thicket]

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message
[s; here's a different cat

[ebon grove]

awwwwwwwwwwwww

[tulip falcon]

Hell naw

Only for self defense

Something about the meek inherit the earth

Means quiet people don't fuck around

[tulip falcon]

Guy who I helped take a dryer off the curb was a cool 80 year old veteran and helicopter mechanic, had me grinning from ear to ear lol

[wanton delta]

i've never had a cat thus the following weird question:
is it harmful to breath into the cat's fur? (or hair)

[tulip falcon]

I think carbon dioxide is pretty safe for cats people motorboat the shit out of them

[wanton delta]

i see

[undone thorn]

motorboating cats sounds wild

[quasi blaze]

Anybody have anything deep to talk about?

[grave cove]

well

(it's deep)

[quasi blaze]

Correct. A wishing well is deep.

[grave cove]

normal wells are deep too

[tulip falcon]

Might be hard to put people on the spot to talk about something deep, unless they already had something weighing on their mind

It's like telling a comedian to say something funny

[tulip falcon]

Recommended

[quasi blaze]

Not really. There’s so many interesting topics

Philosophy

Psychology

[tulip falcon]

You say something deep then

[glossy niche]

recently i found out that
https://vxtwitter.com/ChristophMolnar/status/1701601389435400197?s=20

so not quite deep learning

[quasi blaze]

I’d like to be the one who piggybacks off from topics instead starting one for once

[tulip falcon]

That's my point of being put on the spot

What I'm doing right now is not necessarily deep

I'm reading some docs

If some conversation I was able to participate in started popping off I'd say something

But I don't understand what yoink just sent

[glossy niche]

talking deepity sounds fun and all but its tedious and my attention span the planck distance of time units

[tulip falcon]

Why pithink

Idk machine learning and AI lol

Except for rudimentary attempts

I didn't read a book on it or anything though

[glossy niche]

a linear layer is basically a simple network like thsi

its a linear function

much like a classical ML model e.g SVM

when i say linear

think a degree 1 polynomial

a*x+b = y lookin ass

mfw u kill chat so hard no one is left to complain about it

0 survivors

[tulip falcon]

Sorry I'm out and about and my phone is at 3%

I have my laptop but there's no internet

So just been reading this cached website I have open

Docs

[glossy niche]

always have stuff installed to read :3

[tulip falcon]

I have a tablet I was reading stuff on but I don't read that many books

Because I get hung up a lot after reading not that much

so it feels like impossibly slow progress

hung up thinking about what I read

Maybe just related to the density of book I was reading

2000 pages and dense

Made it through like 250 pages off and on

If only I had a USB C cable maybe I could charge my phone from that port on my thinkpad

[rough sapphire]

mods!!!!!!

[glossy niche]

BS

i call bs

[quasi blaze]

Interesting theory. Mastering the art of negotiating is quite a skill.

[quasi blaze]

So you believe in compromising when it comes to negotiations ?

[glossy niche]

this is very context dependent

[glossy niche]

i think that win win situations should be sought when possiblke

and making a generalisation like this is over simplifying

[tulip falcon]

Make a win for the investors and it'll be a win for the company

[glossy niche]

since you love quoting book autohrs

ill quote

uhhhh

forgot his name

steven covey?

anyways

he arguets that a winwin situation is must be sought as a first option when dealing with others

check mate

[young shoal]

I think that's leaving out all the situations where you must leave with a deal

if you and your coworker are discussing how to do something, there isn't a situation where not getting it done is a good outcome

you must compromise

[runic plinth]

no, manipulate and abuse

[glossy niche]

is a compromise not a win win? i mean, both win something in a compromise

its different from like

threatening them if they dont cooperate

🚨 oh no, a semantics alert 🚨

[tulip falcon]

A compromise you're forced into is sort of a lose lose

[high haven]

the actual book has more nuance than this. when you take snippets like this out of context, it is a recipe for disaster, in more than one way

[young shoal]

so true

[glossy niche]

[high haven]

for the lurkers. yw:

https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805

[glossy niche]

NOTHIUNG IS OBJECTIVE KEEZY, YOU HAVE TO ADD CONTEXT TO THINGS

[tulip falcon]

Why are we yelling

[quasi blaze]

I haven’t read the book. But the concept of never splitting the difference, never compromising is interesting.

[cobalt remnant]

I swear some people ask a question and act like they're God.

Are you there, God? It's me, your helper.

[tulip falcon]

[glossy niche]

this is a publically funded server

i, the tax payer, am basically your employer

obey me

[cobalt remnant]

Why have you forsaken me?

[glossy niche]

i dont know that word

oh taht swhat it means

[cobalt remnant]

.wa define forsaken

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[glossy niche]

why yall got 40 words for 1 idea smh

so fatherless

[cobalt remnant]

God is a deadbeat dad.

[tulip falcon]

That's why I'm atheist

[tardy rain]

god shouldnt have compromised with noah and should have wiped us all

[tulip falcon]

So deadbeat he might have never existed

[tardy rain]

god is man's shadow

discuss.

(not you keezy)

[quasi blaze]

Do you guys think that a no deal is better than a bad deal?

[young shoal]

depends

[quasi blaze]

I would never want a bad deal. I want every negotiation I have to turn out either a good deal or no deal.

[tulip falcon]

The bad deals are in retrospect

"Why did I buy vitcoin at $300,000"

[gritty zinc]

think about what circumstances this approach would be good in, and you might reinvent the concept of a BATNA

[tardy rain]

bad deal, you have a salary that only covers rent
no deal, you have no salary

[young shoal]

bad deal: the work is done unoptimally
no deal: the work is not done

[tardy rain]

if the work is done, thats optimal

[dapper dew]

The best negotiation is where both parties are slightly upset

Which is only slightly a joke

Funnily enough I have some slides on negotiations

[tardy rain]

what kind of negotiating do you guys do anyway lmao

mine is where to go eat with the gf

[dapper dew]

Work mainly

[tardy rain]

and my tactic is just let her pick

[dapper dew]

People tend to not listen to me when I tell them "I cannot do this because the technically correct way is more expensive than the benefit"

[honest star]

People vastle underestimate the importance of how you communicate. How you say something is just as important as what you say.

I've seen so many good ideas go nowhere because they weren't communicated effectively

[tardy rain]

neither of the places i've worked at have said no to customer demands

so our code is a bunch of hacks to make those things work

[glossy niche]

same with one of our clients

[dapper dew]

I have like 4 different internal departments that are my "customers"

[glossy niche]

20 requests to load the landing page

and they are dependent some how

so they cant be batched with gql or something

[honest star]

Most of my disagreements are when I disagree with someone else's technical assessment, and oh boy is that a minefield of a conversation

[dapper dew]

100%

I also have slides on communication (these were from a leadership development course)

[honest star]

ooooh, that sounds like a fascinating presentation honestly

[young shoal]

👀

[young shoal]

but they're so fun!

[honest star]

they're so stressful when there's a significant amount of money and ego involved though 😔

[young shoal]

yeah but as long as everyone understands it's not personal then you're all good

but that's hard

like if someone criticizes your idea it's hard to separate that from criticism of you

[dapper dew]

The second part can be managed if the person doing the critiquing is doing it in an impersonal way, and has things to say about the content rather than the person who had the idea. But it is difficult, which is why sometimes it is a skill

[honest star]

I'm usually in a third-party/independent verifier position. So I need to take extra care that I'm not coming across as "swoops in at the last minute with a bunch of comments just because". That can really ruffle feathers because I haven't been involved with the project from inception, but I will speak up if I have concerns. People get very attached to the thing they've spent years working on, so I need to be careful to phrase my comments as "here's my concern, this is the path forward/solution I see to address this". Without that path forward bit, the conversation becomes a lot more tense

[young shoal]

it takes tact

[glossy niche]

communication is underrated, engineers like to forget things outside their field exist ||and i think a lot of the questions in #python-discussion highlight that quite well||

[gritty zinc]

https://xkcd.com/2501/

xkcd: Average Familiarity

How could anyone consider themselves a well-rounded adult without a basic understanding of silicate geochemistry? Silicates are everywhere! It's hard to throw a rock without throwing one!

[young shoal]

so true

everyone knows what a for loop is at least

it's intuitive

[tardy rain]

a what now?

[dapper dew]

What is the loop for

[acoustic moss]

i feel like i should know what quartz's formula is

oh bruh

its just sio2

[young shoal]

sand

[rough sapphire]

silicon oxide?

what makes quartz so heat resistant then???

its glass like any other

[quasi blaze]

It’s with particular members of our society. I will not go into specifics.

[jovial oriole]

If you say it out loud it sounds like CO2

[young shoal]

why not?

[jovial oriole]

Lmao

[grave cove]

it appears as if we live in a society

[quasi blaze]

People will get easily offended.

[grave cove]

source?

[tardy rain]

Why bring it up then

Youre such a fucking tease keezy holy

[undone thorn]

every day I look at ot and keezy is vaguely gesturing that if he said x opinion people would get offended

[quasi blaze]

Because you asked

[tardy rain]

I wasnt asking you

I was asking brad

[quasi blaze]

“you guys”

[grave cove]

are you not supposed to say chemical formulas like that

you're supposed to say the actual name

[tardy rain]

Bruh you dont do negotiating at work and we both know it

[grave cove]

but of course people still do it 😩

[quasi blaze]

Not talking about work

Again..particular members of our society

[young shoal]

what like women?

[wicked haven]

"silicon dioxide" vs "carbon dioxide" wdym

[tardy rain]

Kekmao

[young shoal]

gangster RPers?

[tardy rain]

Nonononono

[young shoal]

authorities?

[quasi blaze]

Use your imagination

[young shoal]

why not just explain it

[quasi blaze]

Because some people are sensitive

[tardy rain]

He's not at liberty

[tardy rain]

Sensitivity and such

[young shoal]

is this one of your "banned" topics again

[undone thorn]

bro was chiefing that blunt too

[low chasm]

wild

[young shoal]

based and chiefpilled

[jovial oriole]

Bruh just say you got no game and leave it at that

[young shoal]

💀

[young shoal]

dm it to me

[jovial oriole]

Source: partially verified professors from "trust me bro" university with doctorates in bullshitting

[grave cove]

so based

[quasi blaze]

Thanks bro. I really appreciate it.

[young shoal]

it's not fair to unconditionally hate a person

it's not charitable

but it's understandable

[quasi blaze]

I’ve had some higher-ups tell other users that I never try to offend anyone before. So they empathize, but some don’t. It is what it is.

[undone thorn]

you very explicitly try not to offend people, making a comment to that affect every day

[jovial oriole]

Bro has more rizz than any human ever

[quasi blaze]

Yeah but some higher-ups don’t understand that.

[jovial oriole]

And hes literally a parrot

[young shoal]

whether or not you try doesn't change whether or not it happens

[undone thorn]

w

[quasi blaze]

Heh…intention matters.

[undone thorn]

the main complaint I've heard from mods is you constantly gesturing at the idea that you are being censored and will be banned if you speak your mind

[young shoal]

of course, to an extent

[quasi blaze]

You can’t control how people react when you respectfully express your thoughts.

[young shoal]

yes, but you might reasonably predict it

[young shoal]

waiting for this btw

oh nevermind I see it

that seems fairly reasonable lol. that's nothing like what you've been infracted for in the past

well. there are some insinuations but it's not remotely as bad as before

[tardy rain]

Hinge-illionaire mindset

[quasi blaze]

I never split the difference with my negotiation

[young shoal]

ok but your situation isn't negotiating

[quasi blaze]

If they propose their idea, then yes it is.

[young shoal]

think of it like a job application

are you negotiating? no, you just get to ask

either they say yes or you get denied

[quasi blaze]

Yeah and if they say “No. How about we do X?”

Then it’s negotiating

[young shoal]

no lol

[quasi blaze]

Then I say “No I’m not doing that. Nice meeting you.”

No deal is better than a bad deal

Their proposition is a bad deal

Negotiations doesn’t always involve money you know

[warped sentinel]

since when negotiations are bad?

[quasi blaze]

They are bad if you get a bad deal

[warped sentinel]

I only negotiate for good deals

[quasi blaze]

Exactly

Never split the difference

[warped sentinel]

it doesn't mean there isn't some give and take though

[young shoal]

conflict resolution is one of those vaunted soft skills employers look for

not compromising is not good for conflict resolution

[carmine bane]

uwu

[kindred thicket]

that's not really a good mindset to have

[quasi blaze]

Oh really? There’s a book called Never Split The Difference by Chris Voss who is a former FBI Hostage negotiator.

I never read it though

[kindred thicket]

are you a hostage negotiator?

[quasi blaze]

No

[carmine bane]

Everyone can win

[quasi blaze]

https://youtu.be/T_6-U4dKHBw?si=LCORf2pWUwx_7V_s

[warped sentinel]

I would suggest to read it first prior to changing your views on the world.
Titles can be quite deceptive or misleading

[carmine bane]

Clickbaited

[quasi blaze]

How so?

[warped sentinel]

never really gave a reasoning. Just some constructed examples of some random bad things

[coral void]

!tempban 110219448027209728 14d You've been told several times that we have zero interest in hosting your misogynistic views or discussions on your troubles with "particular members of society", and your endless rephrasing of it as if we're upset with the words you're using instead of the topic you're repeatedly trying to espouse your views on isn't subtle. Neither is your convenient refusal to elaborate when anyone tries to get clarification out of you.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @quasi blaze until <t:1697150844:f> (14 days).

[young shoal]

huh

[carmine bane]

He's gonna come back and say he was censored

@young shoal Hyd pasta man

How's life

[young shoal]

it's aight

classes are cancelled tomorrow

[carmine bane]

Wwe

Www

Any plans for your 3 day weekend?

Can I relax with you uwu

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-sleep-cuddle-gif-19524328

Is this harassment

[low chasm]

we have a 3 day weekend??

[carmine bane]

Apparently savage pasta man does

[grave cove]

apparently i have a 4 day weekend next week

"fall break" is what they call it

goin back home

[carmine bane]

Barely a break no cappers

[grave cove]

honestly

[young shoal]

if it's unwanted

[grave cove]

but i go back home for any abnormally long weekend

[carmine bane]

[young shoal]

well i had another plan but idk if you saw it

[carmine bane]

Prolly not

[young shoal]

😔

[carmine bane]

I think my friend has 3 day weekend for some reason too

No classes tmr

Though he never specified

[young shoal]

did their uni's acting president die

[carmine bane]

Oh

Idts

[high haven]

bruh the ai lives in my computer now

[young shoal]

based

[carmine bane]

It lives among us

[high haven]

yknow what? this can solve the problem of peeps not knowing how to use their computer

[young shoal]

they need to know what they want first

[rugged owl]

Chatgpt saving me 2 hours on hw at like 4am

[young shoal]

😩

must you use python?

[rugged owl]

I have no idea where to even run matlab code Yes, must use python.

Took a bit of coaching, but it also managed to code out this. I had to manually add in the constraints for gpt to gen the right code. So it can't solve problems 100% on it's own.

[young shoal]

bruh

[rugged owl]

Bruh is right, I hate this class.

I hate both these classes

[high haven]

listen. i had to walk a kid through how to take a screenshot. ill take what i can get. also these are pre-populated prompts

and then it does it for you

[high haven]

4am sg vs. 4am rex

[runic plinth]

Damn, rip keezy

[young shoal]

yeah it looks nice

[jovial oriole]

What

No fair

Whens thanksgiving

[distant hazel]

probably people are taking off for the chuseok holiday. or mid-autumn festival

august 15th, lunar

[rugged owl]

I'm going to have to explain to our head of analytics why we can't just change our ID column that follows "AB12345" into "AB12345 Do Not Use" to exclude from a dashboard.

[carmine bane]

[high haven]

wishing you luck. also what

like thats your primary key column is what youre saying

because if so, thats a rip

[rugged owl]

Yea, technically it is our master ID if I think about it.

[high haven]

yeah thats a big rip

and by rip, i mean

rest in pieces

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

[rugged owl]

This section of Finance makes me wanna .
It's self assessment practice. Why are answers hidden.

[high haven]

someone doesnt understand how canvas settings work?

oops

sg, tell the class

about finance things

[rugged owl]

Here, I'll have Dan speak for me.

Somehow, I think the accounting is miles easier than this finance stuff.

[young shoal]

wait what

[grave cove]

bro took 5700 minutes

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

super rip

yet again

[rugged owl]

Acc at least was straight forward memorization and none of this multi paragraph nonsense.

[carmine apex]

please do not defame skyglow like that. it wasn't 5700, it was 5793

[rugged owl]

Like, oh. This is just a simple use excel NPV right? NOPE

[grave cove]

bro took a test for 4 days straight 😭

[carmine apex]

well at least they got 4 out of 4

[high haven]

so this is finance stuff?

[rugged owl]

Look man, I had to do my other course homework

[high haven]

[grave cove]

that's 24 hours per question

[carmine apex]

be might embarassing if they got a 0 with that much time, it would

[high haven]

bro this is worse than your normal word problems in math

get me out

[rugged owl]

This is the longer ones

[high haven]

kill me now

then kill you

[rugged owl]

Worst is the answers are in the office hours that are a hour long

[high haven]

i hate this

[rugged owl]

Wait, this is new to discord

[high haven]

wait i dont have that feature

[rugged owl]

A/B testing be like:

[high haven]

[grave cove]

I want that pack

Gib

[carmine apex]

👀 wait you can do that for reactions now? 👀👀👀

[rugged owl]

I only just noticed it's a thing today. It used to be "Join server"

[high haven]

are you on discord web

[rugged owl]

Yea

Does this mean I can leave the like 80 servers I'm joined for emojis?

[high haven]

bruh im on the desktop app

[carmine apex]

eh, the limit's 100

[rugged owl]

Is dobby a free elf?

I'm assuming it's like:
Server [n/100] Packs [n/200]

Or, I think full nitro is 200 server limit

[young shoal]

bro. that is way too long. I can't keep that many things in my head

[rugged owl]

Dw, you get 0 notes to take with you. But we will provide this worthless formula sheet.

And excel

[young shoal]

oh excel

brilliant

[high haven]

Use Excel macros

only finance things

[rugged owl]

You have to memorize them though

There's no cheat sheet allowed.

[young shoal]

lol

how did you end up in these courses

at the same time

every time you give a status update it's just horrifying

[rugged owl]

"Why don't I just take two of the worst courses together so I can get them out of the way first. It can't be that bad, workload per week is lower than future course combo." -Skyglow 6 weeks ago

[young shoal]

😭😭😭

how'd you calculate workload

[rugged owl]

There's a website omsacentral that has peer reviews.

Took it from there and added the combos

[young shoal]

1/5 difficulty 😩

[rugged owl]

The material isn't hard. It's just there's a lot.

[young shoal]

blah blah quantity has a difficulty of it's own

[rugged owl]

Oh right, there's incorrect answers too which doesn't help lmao