ot1-perplexing-regexing

[jaunty wraith]

ok zoomer

[karmic gust]

kat is also a die-hard nsync fan, coincidence? jury's out

[reef geyser]

this is truly a gevent moment

[jaunty wraith]

when will jury be back

[heavy pawn]

What's nsync?

[dapper shell]

On the subject of disability: i want to say to people "I'm disabled: I'm nearsighted." Not to make light of disability, but to get them to understand that we accommodate plenty of things, but only if they are common enough.

[jaunty wraith]

...

[heavy pawn]

A new Rust library

[honest star]

you take that back you lying fiend!

[reef geyser]

what are they doing out there
get them back in

[shrewd thunder]

a boy band that was actually good at singing

[heavy pawn]

Impossible

[honest star]

(I don't actually know which American boyband I like the most ;_;)

[grave cove]

sounds like a linux utility

[shrewd thunder]

Might sound crazy but it ain't no lie

[foggy jungle]

Woo okay got the emoji back.

[tropic lichen]

async with asyncio.TaskGroup() as g:
    for _ in range(3):
        g.create_task(bye())

[jaunty wraith]

what are the options

[harsh tundra]

Can I interest you in java2k?

probabilistic esoteric programming language; each function may or may not do what the programmer intended to do. The language uses a base-11 number system to approximate base 10.

[reef geyser]

not many

[honest star]

Backstret Boys, NSync, third mystery option

[jaunty wraith]

you missed the instantiation

[willow narwhal]

Reject copycat asyncio, return to Trio

[shrewd thunder]

Freshman Men's Choir usually

[reef geyser]

backstreet boys is a wonderful and equally valid pick imo

[harsh tundra]

That would be a nice honeypot, I think

[grave cove]

he's already a honeypot

[jaunty wraith]

+1 for bb

[tropic lichen]

no idea what you're talking about

[honest star]

kpop boybands though, I have plenty opinions on that

[reef geyser]

oh lord

[honest star]

Scoff had the misfortune of discovering how bad early 2010s kpop can be

[jaunty wraith]

[reef geyser]

ever since 7th grade when they exploded into my classroom I could never

[shrewd thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/barbershop-barbershopquartet-jimmyfallon-kevinspacey-singing-gif-3548870

[grave cove]

what

[jaunty wraith]

implying they aren't bad now

[shrewd thunder]

There we go, the third american boy band option

[shrewd thunder]

don't remind me lol

[honest star]

You listen to Mr. Simple and tell me that isn't straight up wonderful garbage on a new level

[reef geyser]

some of the girls came in, and said to watch bts
and my teacher complied
and I've hated it ever since

just not my kind of stuff lol

[foggy jungle]

Ask recursive_error for some music video recommendations some time.

He's got some... weird ones.

[honest star]

Super Junior crawled so BTS could run

[shrewd thunder]

although early kpop back when the african-american music influences were still extremely easy to spot was a real bop

[jaunty wraith]

luna luna luna, I agree with you for once

[grave cove]

for once

[reef geyser]

yeah, he rarely agrees with me

ain't that right moyen

[grave cove]

meanie

[foggy jungle]

[jaunty wraith]

paradoxical

[reef geyser]

who's the meanie??

[shrewd thunder]

and yes, Code Switch on NPR did a great bit about how KPop is most strongly influenced by the fact that the american military presence in korea over the past several decades, especially african-american influences.

[jaunty wraith]

you obv

[reef geyser]

what

[honest star]

Everyone is obligated to listed to 1 minute of it and realize this was the best of kpop in 2010s
https://youtu.be/r6TwzSGYycM?t=36

[jaunty wraith]

KernelPop

[grave cove]

[reef geyser]

mr. simple?
it's actually quite clampicated

[grave cove]

oh god why am i in the genshin impact server

[foggy jungle]

Wait what?

[grave cove]

get me out get me out get me out

[jaunty wraith]

sus

[reef geyser]

the emojis, robin

[shrewd thunder]

for the love of your wallet leave while you can

[foggy jungle]

Scroll back in the Vipyr chat.

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[grave cove]

i'm in too many servers

[foggy jungle]

PSVM and Robin last night.

[reef geyser]

[grave cove]

LEEEEKS

[shrewd thunder]

then again i'm in multiple vtuber servers, so i have no room to talk

[jaunty wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[foggy jungle]

That wouldn't be the worst thing to leak out of that community.

[reef geyser]

besides confidential military documentation

[grave cove]

[foggy jungle]

Have we done that yet?

[jaunty wraith]

calling it a community might be too much of a stretch

[grave cove]

blame psvm he's the war thunder player

[reef geyser]

soon™️

[foggy jungle]

It's 30 people.

[grave cove]

carried by yours truly

[tropic lichen]

This sounds so 2011, i didn't know you could concentrate the concept of an entire year into a song 🥴

[harsh tundra]

... Why do some of them have ropes around their shoulders/necks? One has kind of fish net/fucked up shibari, the other has straight up noose... I didn't watch past that

[reef geyser]

man, I have to thank this yours truly guy

[grave cove]

yeah he does sound like a pretty cool guy

[foggy jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6XXia5B2Wg
This is peak 2010's kpop btw.

[jaunty wraith]

yours truly arrested for doing too many shady things

[foggy jungle]

[jaunty wraith]

...

[hexed sierra]

this was super popular back in the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8j_XEn9b_8&ab_channel=SMTOWN

[honest star]

💅 fashion

[honest star]

Gee is truly an unparalleled song though

[reef geyser]

questionable 2010s fashion, my favorite

[harsh tundra]

He has a fucking noose around his neck, that's not even questionable fashion choice, that's something fucked up

[hexed sierra]

i had a stage of heavy online gaming. in one game, the clan leader would play gee gee on loop during raids. we're talking several hours in a row

[grave cove]

what the

[honest star]

LMAO actual legend

[reef geyser]

sounds like agony

[hexed sierra]

a-gee-ny

[grave cove]

which game

[hexed sierra]

(it's a good song ngl)

[grave cove]

[reef geyser]

[hexed sierra]

granado espada

mmo rpg

[shrewd thunder]

aaaaand there goes python general being python general again

[grave cove]

never heard of it

[honest star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

[reef geyser]

mmm, waiting for diablo IV

[honest star]

@karmic gust can vouch for the ... incredibleness of this song

[hexed sierra]

it's amazing

(do check out mr mr, it's good. snsd is good in general)

[tropic lichen]

woa, that spooked me, discord decided to play a funny prank and act like my internet went and/or their servers died

[reef geyser]

funni

[karmic gust]

being tagged for every kpop video is disproportionate for a white lie about nsync

[grave cove]

happened to me one time
thought pygen didn't have a single message for like half an hour

[honest star]

:3c

[reef geyser]

it's par for the course

[hexed sierra]

is that a cat with a chad chin

:3c

[reef geyser]

no, that's the paw on the chin

[grave cove]

a cat with an extra large chin

[foggy jungle]

I don't see it.

[foggy jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-huh-confused-headtilt-head-gif-12361160

[foggy jungle]

Oh now I see it.

[grave cove]

oh

i see it now

[grave cove]

[foggy jungle]

That cat certainly do have the chin.

[grave cove]

that cat has a better chisled chin than me

[heavy pawn]

??

[harsh tundra]

Here. I had to view those seconds several times to catch it

[reef geyser]

that cat most definitely can fix the broken

[shrewd thunder]

we're letting him have enough rope

[foggy jungle]

@polar knoll is the appropriate place for that.

[hexed sierra]

jesus christ keep the hate locked in pygen lol

don't spread it here

[heavy pawn]

I am surprised he wasn't booted

[shrewd thunder]

@heavy pawn don't worry, bigots always out themselves, it's a self-solving problem

[heavy pawn]

can't post images in pygen 😦

[vale raven]

We don’t want it either!!

[grave cove]

holy shit its the head of squirrel chasing

no way

[harsh tundra]

ModMail, screenshots+links to messages and ids of people so mods can look them up even if they delete

[dapper shell]

you don't need to re-post it here anyway. people will take care of it.

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-lol-cute-squirrel-gif-13364558

[hexed sierra]

just sit tight and report incidents to the mods. there's no need to do anything else

[karmic gust]

!cban 298486455687184394 homophobia

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @lime plinth permanently.

[jaunty wraith]

thank

[grave cove]

poof

[foggy jungle]

Anyway.

[hexed sierra]

see? all good

[heavy pawn]

thank

[shrewd thunder]

Like I said. They always out themselves.

[reef geyser]

aww shame, I was gonna be like "let me show you the door" and I was gonna have my battle theme play and-

[hexed sierra]

back to kpop

[foggy jungle]

How's everyone's week going?

I didn't sleep last night, so I'm goofy-tired.

[heavy pawn]

going through modmail process seemed overkill for something quite visible and open in pygen

[reef geyser]

[harsh tundra]

What that was... Ah, that was the person who "true" to hateful message in pygen. I got surprised

[grave cove]

i am tired of waking up at noon every day and doing jackshit for the rest of the day

[reef geyser]

it's a questionable week

[shrewd thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/fabulous-fucking-fabulous-yas-werk-gif-9154824

[honest star]

I think we had 5 mods currently typing a ban at the same time

[foggy jungle]

If only we had a project for you to work on.

[hexed sierra]

this week has been pretty ok tbh. i had bad news last week, but this week compensated for it

[grave cove]

if only

[jaunty wraith]

that's on you

[reef geyser]

would've gotten there too if I wasn't on mobile

[harsh tundra]

Type Racing in pygen pride style

[grave cove]

summer break do be that way sometime

[shrewd thunder]

My week has been spent in the AWS UI retagging EVERY. SINGLE. EC2. INSTANCE. because someone fucked up and now datadog is getting no logs.

[grave cove]

never thought i'd actually want school

[jaunty wraith]

no, that was you before summer break too

[grave cove]

ok true

[foggy jungle]

You didn't go.

[grave cove]

in my defense i was a senior

[harsh tundra]

You want school so you could skip it again?

[jaunty wraith]

I hope you at least scripted that shit

[shrewd thunder]

If I was allowed to I would've done so already.

Fin"Tech" folks

[jaunty wraith]

what

[grave cove]

AWS has an API though, right?

[foggy jungle]

🥴

[grave cove]

Or is it a company-side restriction

[shrewd thunder]

company-side restriction

[jaunty wraith]

that's dumb

[grave cove]

dumb

yeah

[shrewd thunder]

yup

[reef geyser]

very

[jaunty wraith]

no powershell?

[harsh tundra]

If you're paid for your time and not per task completed 🤷

[shrewd thunder]

same reason why we're still on windows 7 and internet explorer.

[grave cove]

can you use boto3 for this

[jaunty wraith]

nooooooo

[reef geyser]

w h a t

no way

[jaunty wraith]

[reef geyser]

you have some real pressing issues beyond EC2 instances my friend

[shrewd thunder]

I get flagged for trying to automate things like this. Which, as an SRE, is hilarious.

"We're a tech company"
"Oh, so that means we get to use modern tooling?"
"Well we're actually a finance company."

[jaunty wraith]

bruh

[reef geyser]

for fucks-

[harsh tundra]

Meanwhile my company is preparing for iso 27001 and we're doing basically hardening of everything... I was made to install monitoring software on my linux that yesterday tried to kill my xorg session because vmware wanted to update some kernel stuff and kernel updates are "suspicious"...

[reef geyser]

you, updating your kernel?
that's HIGHLY suspicious!

[jaunty wraith]

kernel? panic

[reef geyser]

I'm putting your update in quarantine™️ until further notice!

[harsh tundra]

SOC person messaging me about an alert and I'm like... I'm in the office, but you're right, I had something suspicious happen, stop killing my vmware!

[harsh tundra]

(it was one kill something and it kinda failed anyways, my console survived, lol XD so xorg didn't die either)

[shrewd thunder]

I'm considering it a miracle we're allowed to use linux for our servers.

[reef geyser]

windows server 2012, take it or leave it

[harsh tundra]

We're trying out Snyk for scanning. My code using python docker image...

[shrewd thunder]

Oh btw the company's definition of "cloud" is "kubernetes hosted on the mainframe"

[shrewd thunder]

you're assuming the cto would voluntarily allow anything more recent than 2007 lol

[reef geyser]

lol

[shrewd thunder]

we're still starting new projects in java 7 as "the industry standard"

[jaunty wraith]

the what

[reef geyser]

me when I still runs windows millennium edition (2000 was cool, I'm not delusional)

[reef geyser]

what

[shrewd thunder]

not my words

[jaunty wraith]

2000 was cool, but you're still delusional

[reef geyser]

DAMNIT

[grave cove]

it was only cool because i wasn't born yet

[shrewd thunder]

Also "We don't need github actions, we already have jenkins. It's the industry standard."

[reef geyser]

who is

[harsh tundra]

That's kinda how one provider did with their software, fucked up everything because changed whole deploy your own scripts process, didn't even really modify the software, mostly changed the css :x
When they "fixed" the deployment of customisation scripts for the tool (my main work), the api to configure it is undocumented and literallt has "internal" in the path... It's just glued on top of the product based on how it's made and how it behaves

[reef geyser]

why

[jaunty wraith]

self-deprecation, nice

[reef geyser]

who is doing this to you

[foggy jungle]

FiNtEcH

[grave cove]

nah i'm so hot it stopped being cool after i was born

[shrewd thunder]

FinTech sure doesn't do tech well, but it pays the bills.

[reef geyser]

the dirtiest money

[jaunty wraith]

uh huh

[grave cove]

that's right line up in a single file line for autographs

[reef geyser]

no

piss off

[grave cove]

smh nobody has culture these days

[reef geyser]

[harsh tundra]

Note: That product couldn't be actually moved into cloud because it's on-prem solution for current network, has to communicate with the network devices that are not visible from the Internet etc.
But still annoys me because they didn't really remake anything other than css and making it on kubernetes instead of some modification of old rhel

[jaunty wraith]

css?

[cobalt remnant]

no firewall rules?

[shrewd thunder]

Oh btw I was hired to my team specifically because I am good at python.

We're now transitioning back to Java 7 because they treated python like java for our api, and then blamed the language when it wasn't exactly like java.

[jaunty wraith]

nooooo

[grave cove]

what is going on over there 💀

[jaunty wraith]

I'm physically cringing

[foggy jungle]

Our entire workflow is in Access + Powershell + Excel

For data pipelines.

[shrewd thunder]

Oh, and we just announced our new exciting product: Crypto is now supported.

[harsh tundra]

What? No, the product is made to monitor and manage the firewall. I was commenting why it cannot be on the real cloud so they made some kubernetes in client's infra

[shrewd thunder]

I facepalmed so hard when I saw that.

[jaunty wraith]

which crypto

[foggy jungle]

I hope you mean Cryptocurrency and not Cryptography.

[grave cove]

lmfao

[shrewd thunder]

let's just say that the day of the announcement everyone was given a corporate NFT in their Who's Who page

[grave cove]

hello everyone cryptography is now officially supported

[foggy jungle]

...

[jaunty wraith]

relatable

[grave cove]

don't ask what we were doing before

[jaunty wraith]

we got some NFT too

[foggy jungle]

If a job offers me an NFT I'm... probably going to leave.

[jaunty wraith]

we have a coin as well

[shrewd thunder]

For the cryptography we have this lovely thing called KMaaS

[reef geyser]

you have a coin?

[grave cove]

move out west to silicon valley and you'll get paid in NFTs and cryptocurrency

[foggy jungle]

that's not that uncommon.

[jaunty wraith]

yeah, a crypto coin

[reef geyser]

what goofy ass company-

[jaunty wraith]

they're trying to branch out into LLMs now

[reef geyser]

I'll take my reward in cash please

[grave cove]

only pennies

[reef geyser]

not this... bored ape nft

[grave cove]

i will supply the wheelbarrows

[jaunty wraith]

oh no, the paycheck is in cash

[foggy jungle]

Paycheck is the NFT.

[harsh tundra]

I'm glad our current marketing person is kinda air headed and doesn't really try to do that kind of stuff/actual technical stuff would get vetted. But there was an attempt of making some kind of tiktok like video as an invitation for kind of convergence we hold... For clients and vendors, not kids to show we're hip... It was scrapped after it was made, thankfully

[jaunty wraith]

a jpeg of a cheque

[foggy jungle]

Like printed on the NFT.

yep.

45 minutes and I'm backflipping into my bed.

[shrewd thunder]

we're encouraged to shill for our company on tiktok

[harsh tundra]

Polish president is on tiktok...

[jaunty wraith]

I hope the backflip is successful

[shrewd thunder]

The only reason I'm still with them is the health plan is better than most.

[foggy jungle]

I'll probably sleep wherever I land either way.

[jaunty wraith]

we're encouraged to shill on insta and linkedin

[harsh tundra]

Ah, yes, the US and health stuff, I presume? Or is that not the US?

[foggy jungle]

Oh we got the "I'm not telling you not to talk about your wage, but at previous workplaces, it was strictly forbidden," talk.

[shrewd thunder]

our "here's the source of articles you use to shill for us" site is only accessible internally, and all social media is blocked. They really didn't think this through.

[jaunty wraith]

well, that's their problem

[shrewd thunder]

My monthly meds aren't covered by my insurance, so I have to pay $450 a month until the $700 deductible

[jaunty wraith]

US moment

[foggy jungle]

Would you like some crippling debt to go along with your genetic misfortune?

[harsh tundra]

Last time I checked and calculated, some private health plan in Poland for a year was cheaper than one US ambulance ride...

[shrewd thunder]

Too bad cannabis isn't very useful for adhd. I take that for my anxiety instead. And yes, I have a med card.

[shrewd thunder]

I have walked to the emergency room over taking the ambulance

[pallid valve]

same question: is there a mod that can change my server profile name to "erkan612 | Trans Hetero Gay Mostly Non-Binary Queer Tax-exempt Asexual Celiac | He/Haw/Victim/Bark"

[foggy jungle]

Moderators cannot bypass the username length description.

But we're happy you're here and celebrating with us!

🏳️‍🌈

[dapper shell]

you are mocking people, right?

[harsh tundra]

!rule 1

[royal lake]

Rules

1. Follow the Python Discord Code of Conduct.

[pallid valve]

what?

you gotta respect my choice

what on earth makes you think that way brah

[dapper shell]

to answer your question: no, we can't make that your name.

[harsh tundra]

Sealioning. Will act as "I'm just asking questions (etc), stop saying I'm trolling"

[carmine apex]

i am about 99% sure this is the one joke territory

[foggy jungle]

[heavy pawn]

swear on your mum

[shrewd thunder]

This is definitely "I'll mock trans people and then pretend it was a joke when they get mad" territory

[grave cove]

🥱

[dapper shell]

definitely.

[harsh tundra]

Of course it is

[summer knot]

🍿

[grave cove]

boooooooring

[pallid valve]

y'all transphobic

[summer knot]

no, we just disdain low-effort trolling

[heavy pawn]

The term for this is concern trolling

I think

[shrewd thunder]

Someone joined a zoom call this morning with (con/fused) and I immediately screenshotted and emailed HR

[dapper shell]

you should definitely report this to mods if you want.

[harsh tundra]

Which pronoun is which form? Or are they interchangeable and then they each have their own forms?

[pallid valve]

i identify myself as mod

[jaunty wraith]

!ban 542033181910761502 It doesn't seem like you're here for any productive discussion

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @pallid valve permanently.

[foggy jungle]

ModenChat

[grave cove]

head of chat affairs

[heavy pawn]

MoyenChad

[shrewd thunder]

I sure hope there isn't a limit to super reacts

[jaunty wraith]

it's 5 per week

[harsh tundra]

2 per week, I think?

[heavy pawn]

You used up all yours

[grave cove]

depends on your plan

[harsh tundra]

Oh, really?

[shrewd thunder]

let's find out shall we

[harsh tundra]

I haven't used any because i mostly use my phoooone and they're only desktop :c

[carmine apex]

2 for nitro classic (the cheapo version), 5 for nitro normal

[jaunty wraith]

basic: 2 /week

[shrewd thunder]

give it time, enough bigots will show up and get banned and i will eventually find the limit

[foggy jungle]

You know what I've noticed? On the topic of PyDis meta

[heavy pawn]

Ngl, nedbat inviting the trolls from pygen to here feels really like a polite way of quarantining them before the slaughter

[foggy jungle]

The quantbros have disappeared (or at least substantially dwindled.)

[shrewd thunder]

It's a humane way of butchering before we eat them

[jaunty wraith]

[heavy pawn]

😈

[weary moat]

The troll abbatoir

[opaque arch]

quantbros?

[jaunty wraith]

the what

[shrewd thunder]

Oh don't remind me of the quantbros

[grave cove]

like cryptobros

[mossy mango]

routing

[grave cove]

but quant

[jaunty wraith]

[tranquil iron]

what if you're a quant doing crypto?

[shrewd thunder]

The daytraders who think they know everything but are actually delusional

[grave cove]

double bro

[foggy jungle]

People who are hellbent on creating the next day trading algorithm to get rich by using Python and webscraping.

[mossy mango]

what about aibros?

[foggy jungle]

I know some cool aibros.

They're spared for now.

[mystic drift]

Aren't these made to be specially unpredictable

[jaunty wraith]

kp confirmed an ai bro

[tranquil iron]

day traders are the opposite of quants

[mystic drift]

Actually, not even made to

It's just impossible

[grave cove]

kp is pretty close to a quantbro i think

[foggy jungle]

Day trading and quants are not mutually exlcusive at all.

[mossy mango]

jasper.ai is a bad aibro company

[grave cove]

if it has the .ai tld it def is

[jaunty wraith]

fast.ai 🥺

[willow narwhal]

People from Anguilla get a pass

[foggy jungle]

Quant is a well established field with... probably a trillion dollar market cap; but making your first Python project the 'crazy trading algorithm' is... not a gamer move.

Good way to end up super broke though.

[tropic lichen]

the 15.ai guy is alright, even if he's completely shut down the site for now

[shrewd thunder]

I cannot comment any further on this topic as my contract specifically forbids it.

[grave cove]

oh look https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/06/01/Rust-1.70.0.html

[tropic lichen]

(and "for now" might turn out to be forever at this point...)

[grave cove]

sparse protocol is now default

epic

[jaunty wraith]

[foggy jungle]

I prefer my protocols sparse.

[jaunty wraith]

[mossy mango]

true the .ai TLD is cursed

[foggy jungle]

Patiently waiting for .exe TLD

[jaunty wraith]

https://auction.whois.ai/

[mossy mango]

ai.exe when

[foggy jungle]

I've got 'em lined up.
gitgud.exe
nitro.exe
WindowsDefender.exe
Notavirus.exe
s.exe

[grave cove]

yourmom.exe

[willow narwhal]

svchost.exe

[grave cove]

This file is too large to download

[mystic drift]

Too big to execute

[tropic lichen]

I give google about 3-5 years before they try making it a TLD :P

[mystic drift]

Damn almost said it first

[grave cove]

https://yourmom.zip/

[robust zephyr]

https://yourmom.zip/

[foggy jungle]

That's very optimistic.

[mossy mango]

just make sure to use py.exe instead of python.exe

Microsoft already took the latter

[jaunty wraith]

py.exe should redirect to python.exe

[foggy jungle]

Pretty sure Microsoft was on some illegal substences when they released Python through the app store.

Shit don't work chief, time to scrap it and move on.

[grave cove]

people in pygen keep saying come to this channel to chat but nobody ever does

[dapper shell]

sometimes they do, and pretty much that means they will hang themselves.

[mystic drift]

Ned's trying his best 😔

[foggy jungle]

[mossy mango]

then it'll say "want to install apython from the Microsoft store of questionable provenance?"

[weary moat]

Some do. They're normally not here at all shortly afterwards.

[grave cove]

haha true

[harsh tundra]

I heard that because the store does some sandboxing (generally good) but it breaks pip installs and other interacting with files in the system

[shrewd thunder]

that's why we bring them in

[jaunty wraith]

Python installed from Microsoft Store is meant for running Python scripts, innit
not developing them

[foggy jungle]

Smh nobody trusts our security solution.

[grave cove]

typing python into the terminal prompting users to download python from the windows store is literally a crime

i hate it so fucking much

[mystic drift]

Microsoft actually does that?

[grave cove]

IKR

[mossy mango]

yes!

[shrewd thunder]

Meanwhile at my workplace "If you want to use python, install it using the company portal."
"But that's python 2.4"
"It's the industry standard"
"Nevermind, I'll just have IT use admin access to install 3.11"

[grave cove]

new python users then download the microsoft store version and we all know how that ends up

[grave cove]

no way they said that

[mystic drift]

2.4
industry standard

[mossy mango]

it's probably the number one cause of trouble with Windows python

[jaunty wraith]

App Execution Aliases or something

[foggy jungle]

I have unabated access to all of PyPI with no org whitelisting or anything.

[shrewd thunder]

Word. For. Word.

[foggy jungle]

Which is... very spooky.

[grave cove]

since when

[foggy jungle]

Since... I said I have access to Python?

Week two maybe?

[mossy mango]

there's a directory of stub exes you can delete to get rid of it i think

[grave cove]

you have access to python too??? can you remove the gil entirely

[jaunty wraith]

or just, disable it in the settings

[foggy jungle]

...

I'm going to remove you instead.

[grave cove]

and also add numpy and tensorflow into the stdlib just for funsies

[jaunty wraith]

bobin what

[mossy mango]

that too :3

[shrewd thunder]

And......the only docker base image we're allowed to use is alpine. No python base image. We have to build it ourselves.

[mossy mango]

but who wants to go into Microsoft's settings app

[shrewd thunder]

Good luck using NumPy lol

[grave cove]

oh i misread

[foggy jungle]

Tensorflow in stdlib would be a a good meme.

[mossy mango]

it's a godforsaken nightmare

[grave cove]

good luck trying to package up your stuff with PyInstaller

[jaunty wraith]

your workplace sounds more and more unbased by the message

[grave cove]

maybe it's so unbased it overflows into being based again

[foggy jungle]

You know you can include non-std lib stuff

err

stdlib stuff.

exclude.

Words.

Tired.

You know what I meant.

[jaunty wraith]

[low chasm]

banned for misinformation

[jaunty wraith]

average KP L

[foggy jungle]

ABOOSE

[grave cove]

literally 1984

[mossy mango]

I won't std for this

[stark oasis]

I intercepted someone from installing py from Microsoft store this morning so i did my good deed

[shrewd thunder]

That sounds like a case for modmail

[low chasm]

"they've been taken care of"

[foggy jungle]

NOOOOOOOOO

[grave cove]

damn you got hsp dissapointed in you

that must've hurt

[jaunty wraith]

"they've been dealt with"

[grave cove]

they've been taken out back and dealt with

[mossy mango]

idk if this is part of the issue but it goes into some ugly hex string directory that's not readable by normal users

[grave cove]

[low chasm]

"thou hast been banished"

[heavy pawn]

am only I seeing this or others too?

Don't think I have seen this before?

[shrewd thunder]

I saw it too

[low chasm]

that happens sometimes, yeah

[shrewd thunder]

lol

[heavy pawn]

Nice nice discord feature

but is it valid here for that user?

[mossy mango]

wow, compact mode

[grave cove]

imagine just being some random guy and discord marks you as a spammer

[jaunty wraith]

compact mode

[heavy pawn]

yeah I am one of the few ones who uses it I g

😅

who else here does?

[mossy mango]

it's very compacted

[shrewd thunder]

Sometimes, depending on how crazy the chat is at the time

[foggy jungle]

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message
Re this conversation in off topic, is there any chance that the default modmail responses could be reviewed? It's... not particularly upsetting so much as it is entertaining-- but the idea that a forboding "They've been dealt with" or "It's been handled," kind of makes it sounds like you're Ol' Yellering bad actors out behind PyDis.
#community-meta

[jaunty wraith]

compact mode is nice for moderation ngl

[mossy mango]

and garbage compacting

[tulip falcon]

Compact mode scary

[heavy pawn]

The problem has been eliminated.

[shrewd thunder]

They're just being sent to the farm in upstate new york to live free.

[foggy jungle]

Tactical DuckStrike Inbound

[heavy pawn]

The issue has been permanently resolved.

[grave cove]

the threat has been... neutralized

[heavy pawn]

Nice 😈

[jaunty wraith]

they've been yeeted

[foggy jungle]

"The individual hath been yote."

[shrewd thunder]

The problem has been defenestrated. Please watch your step around the windows.

[heavy pawn]

yeetification complete

[mossy mango]

i want to use compact mode

[heavy pawn]

Hussite tiem

[carmine apex]

yer information is outdated. we us duck-guided lemon strikes instead

[low chasm]

I'm taking note of all of these immediately

[grave cove]

boom

[jaunty wraith]

join the compact side

[tulip falcon]

Oh...

[mossy mango]

it doesn't seem to be an option on mobile

[jaunty wraith]

yeah

mobile clients honestly suck

[mossy mango]

it is scary at the same time

[foggy jungle]

The duck knows where it is because it knows where it's not.

[carmine apex]

first and only area where discord mobile is better than pc
surprise

[heavy pawn]

GN all

[jaunty wraith]

sometimes it doesn't even show which message you're replying to

[tulip falcon]

I've had light mode on for a few months because I was bored of normal discord

It burns my eyes

[foggy jungle]

Puff the Magic NSACyberweapon only just got dark mode recently.

[mossy mango]

on pc discord it sometimes won't show the "@ on" button

[foggy jungle]

And I am sympathetic towards people that were actually using it in dark poorly lit office spaces.

[shrewd thunder]

Is it any surprise I had to get a doctor's note to be allowed to use dark mode at work?

[foggy jungle]

Not remotely.

[mossy mango]

then i have to ping on reply and feel guilty about it because i have no choice

[jaunty wraith]

what

[tulip falcon]

Omg I turned dark mode on after all this time

It looks so good

[mystic drift]

I crashed my rocket.
Again.

[shrewd thunder]

Neurodivergence is seen by work as a skill issue sometimes.

[mossy mango]

have you guys see the dark mode on ms office? it's really bad

[foggy jungle]

I didn't know about ping on reply until very recently.

[tropic lichen]

its impossible for me to imagine the NSA's headquarters in anything brighter than the sorta dim lighting that cinemas have

[mystic drift]

And AMOLED is the better theme

[foggy jungle]

That's what I'm saying.

[harsh tundra]

I hate that the nitro themes are darker than standard dark mode so that they letters burn my eyes :c

[tulip falcon]

Oof

[mossy mango]

it reminds me of the "high contrast" windows theme

[foggy jungle]

But Ghidra itself only had a bright white screen.

[shrewd thunder]

cries in Jira and Confluence

[foggy jungle]

So I just imagine an NSA agent opening it and letting out a feral scream.

[mossy mango]

that's why it's so bad, yeah

[tulip falcon]

Imagine having nitro

[mossy mango]

and there's no like variation in shading to separate parts of the ui

[tropic lichen]

nah, they're also all wearing shades indoors, for that exact reasons, clearly

[foggy jungle]

Damn I wish I was that cool.

[tulip falcon]

Nsa peeps are doomers

[shrewd thunder]

Ok I think it's time for the daily long ass walk. I slept through my alarm this morning so now I need to exhaust myself.

[foggy jungle]

[harsh tundra]

I recently had to turn it on because my explorer.exe got fucked up and the bar and start menu were completely transparent... And the setting windows were flickering... And windows gaslit me because I couldn't even take a screenshot to show it to anyone, it all appeared normal in screenshots!

High contrast worked, so I later checked and just disabling any transparency fixed it all... Basically partial transparency got fucked up

[foggy jungle]

Windows moment.

[tulip falcon]

I use high contrast dark in vscode 💀

[harsh tundra]

*Windows VM
My main os at work is Linux, but I still need windows because some stuff doesn't work in Linux...

I was also told I'll be a test rat for some stuff because me being on Linux means they have less data to configure some security tools properly. I was told I should start making really good backups :x

[foggy jungle]

tfw test rat

[jaunty wraith]

rat as in the rodent, right?

not the other kind of rat?

[low chasm]

do yall have a recommended rss reader?

[stark prawn]

rat as in the cute pet

[low chasm]

I'm half considering just rolling my own

[jaunty wraith]

on Android, I use ReadYou

[low chasm]

ios 😔

[jaunty wraith]

it's probably available for iOS too

[foggy jungle]

Too late, you've got computer STD's now.

[low chasm]

it's not 😔

[jaunty wraith]

L iOS

[low chasm]

I'll roll my own 😤

my backburner is outrageous

[jaunty wraith]

your what

[low chasm]

I've got a ton of projects I've yet to do

or need to get back to

[tulip falcon]

I'm stupid I'm a serial texter

[stark prawn]

Come to europe, we haven't send texts in nearly a decade.

[reef geyser]

they speak telepathically

[tulip falcon]

Sounds lovely , both Europe and the texting

[reef geyser]

I'd roll my own

[low chasm]

let's roll it together 🥺

[stark prawn]

:raccroll:

[reef geyser]

what, no
I'm not an iOS user

android for life

[tulip falcon]

Woot

[stark prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-roll-rolling-gif-9052103

[foggy jungle]

Let's roll our own cryptography next.

[low chasm]

fair tbh

[reef geyser]

mmm, yes
the

rotund

being

[foggy jungle]

Rotund Trashpanda

[low chasm]

sideloading apps on ios isn't amazing

I'll make mine cross platform 🥺

[reef geyser]

thems the bricks

[grave cove]

https://tenor.com/view/hampter-soft-round-gif-24743996

[reef geyser]

speaking of, my phone is actually really old now

[jaunty wraith]

like you

[foggy jungle]

OH

[reef geyser]

I've had this since... 9th grade?

[foggy jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-kelso-that-70s-show-gif-26311276

[low chasm]

boona

[reef geyser]

please, 19 isn't that old
I'm only almost in my 20s

oh god.

[foggy jungle]

Oh boy here we go.

[jaunty wraith]

we have no frame of reference for how old that is

[reef geyser]

I'M ALMOST IN MY 20S WHAT THE FUCK AAAAAAAA

[foggy jungle]

We do.

[grave cove]

lmao

[foggy jungle]

9th grade would've been... 5 years ago

[reef geyser]

[jaunty wraith]

welcome to the 20s

[carmine apex]

don't worry, luna. it gets worse

[tranquil iron]

so you're in 14th grade now?

[grave cove]

impossible

[foggy jungle]

you're impossible.

[grave cove]

source?

[shrewd thunder]

I'm 31 in two weeks, enjoy your 20s while they last.

[reef geyser]

!src impossible

[royal lake]

Bad argument

Unable to convert 'impossible' to valid command, tag, or Cog.

Command Help

!source [source_item=None]
Can also use: src

Display information and a GitHub link to the source code of a command, tag, or cog.

[grave cove]

what about my 10s

[reef geyser]

no source

[low chasm]

16 😤

[reef geyser]

I was hyped to be 10,
now I only feel trepidation

[foggy jungle]

no sauce

[tranquil iron]

I have nieces too old for you guys to date

[grave cove]

me somehow only one year older than aboo but 2 grades ahead of him

[reef geyser]

no sauce, no ragu

[foggy jungle]

The anxiety grows as the ages march onward.

[shrewd thunder]

My bald spot agrees with you

[tranquil iron]

they can cure that now

[stark prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-walk-elder-gif-18044460

[reef geyser]

bald spot disease

[mystic drift]

[shrewd thunder]

eugenics is never a solution

[tranquil iron]

or maybe that's just what they want you to think?

[tulip falcon]

They just rub some ground up foreskin on you and off you go

[shrewd thunder]

The only way to "cure" something that is genetic is to remove those genes from the gene pool.

Yeah, no.

[reef geyser]

what

I don't like where this is going

at all

[tulip falcon]

Yeah wut? Dark

[tranquil iron]

um, no

[reef geyser]

please pull a u turn

[shrewd thunder]

Welcome to my life.

[foggy jungle]

Pull the e-brake Luna!

[hexed sierra]

professional pokemon players disagree

[reef geyser]

a yuuie as my Australian friends call it

[foggy jungle]

I'll get the wheel!

[stark prawn]

You can get hair transplants nowadays.

[mystic drift]

This conversation has taken quite the turn

[shrewd thunder]

I'm actually thinking of shaving my head. Can't have a bald spot if I have no hair at all!

[reef geyser]

If I hear someone say "rapscallion" unironically,
I'm pulling the e-break.

on the highway.

no excuses.

[shrewd thunder]

Besides, a shaved head is far cheaper for shampoo.

Sunscreen, on the other hand...

[stark prawn]

That makes your entire head the bald spot.

[reef geyser]

10 tricks that the hair industry doesn't want you to know about

[shrewd thunder]

well for now I'm rocking a buzz cut.

[tulip falcon]

Remove your hair so they can't control you

[stark prawn]

let me introduce you to hats

[low chasm]

I need a new cut 😔

[foggy jungle]

Pulling the e-brake randomly at highway speeds definitely classifies as the kind of hoodrat shit my car is built for.

[harsh tundra]

You're still a teen. Dec 31 == hex 0x1f
I have a friend who celebrated 33 by saying they're 21

[low chasm]

beanies 😤

[shrewd thunder]

I have to keep some hair for medical purposes, my mercury levels are insane so I have to get tested regularly

[carmine apex]

honestly short hair is a lot easier. get hair wet from shower or rain, it's dry in like 5 seconds

[reef geyser]

your car is made out of the right stuff

[tulip falcon]

Oooff

[stark prawn]

Is e-break a different word for hand break?

[reef geyser]

every other car I've tried with has flipped uncontrollably

[foggy jungle]

si.

[tranquil iron]

"hand brakes" are called "emergency brakes" or "parking brakes" in the US

[foggy jungle]

Interesting. Have you tried not flipping?

[stark prawn]

Please dont' discuss hex around aboo nicky, it's a sensitve topic.

[shrewd thunder]

My e-brake is a separate pedal...

[tranquil iron]

e for emergency

[carmine apex]

!rule 4 🙂

[royal lake]

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

[foggy jungle]

[reef geyser]

Trust me, it's a side effect I'm trying to avoid, but it keeps happening

[tranquil iron]

puta

[shrewd thunder]

As if si isn't being slowly integrated into english regardless.

[foggy jungle]

Just keep trying. It has to work eventually.

Remember, a deer jumped out in front of you for the 12th time this week.

[reef geyser]

Brute force is always the solution!

[low chasm]

don't give up on your dreams Luna

on belive

fr

[reef geyser]

this is truly an aerosmith - dream on moment

[foggy jungle]

DREAAAAAAAM AWNNNNNN

[low chasm]

yeah they call me a man of many words

[harsh tundra]

Insurance will usually cover hitting a deer, it won't cover hitting a tree while avoiding hitting a deer

[reef geyser]

no cap?
all fax?
no printer

[foggy jungle]

I'll test this theory.

[reef geyser]

the tree was trying to pull off insurance fraud

sue the tree

[harsh tundra]

At least that's what Internet told me, I haven't tested it either

[reef geyser]

test it on your least favorite in-law

[carmine apex]

you could have luna test it instead - they're already trying to be a driving rapscallion

[low chasm]

ftbe programmer way is to do it yourself

[frozen crane]

@empty heron

Men’s mental health matters more than being gay but pride month is more publicised
I agree that men's issues are underrated, but this isn't a zero sum game.

[reef geyser]

I will pull your e-brake

[carmine apex]

bet

[reef geyser]

BET

square up then, you jackanape

[tranquil iron]

it sort of is actually, a zero sum game, that is

[foggy jungle]

You hoodlum.

[frozen crane]

why?

[reef geyser]

you slacker

[mystic drift]

How so?

[foggy jungle]

you whippersnapper.

[tranquil iron]

because there are limits to the amount of attention and empathy

[harsh tundra]

I think this was also mentioned by someone in #community-meta as June being "men's mental health month", then they said "ah, it's November for the US" but it's November for like whole NA and Europe?

[mystic drift]

Are we playing some sort of competition for who deserves more pity or something?

[stark prawn]

Doesn't it take inhuman amounts to strength to pull that break in a car going high speed.

[frozen crane]

that doesn't mean that solutions to one can only come at the expense of another.

[tranquil iron]

on that, I would agree

[shrewd thunder]

literally the whole purpose of victim mentality

[mystic drift]

Because someone's suffering doesn't really nulls someone's else

[reef geyser]

wanna find out?

[tranquil iron]

but none of these this month or that day or something else weeks are about finding solutions

[mystic drift]

?

...And?

[jaunty wraith]

[stark prawn]

I imagine it sounds like the first time I drove in my parents car after getting my license.
They had a 5 gear but I took lessons in a 6 gear.

[harsh tundra]

Zero sum would mean someone loses. So you'd say to give someone empathy you'd need to hate someone else...?

[tranquil iron]

the folks not getting attention lose

and the opposite of empathy is not hate, it's indifference

[shrewd thunder]

that explains the people saying "No I'm the real victim here PAY ATTENTION TO ME"

[mystic drift]

???
Again, I quite fail to see the correlation here

[tranquil iron]

that's somewhat different from what I'm saying

[shrewd thunder]

Not you specifically

[mystic drift]

Can't we simply do both?

[tranquil iron]

fair enough

[mystic drift]

Some of y'all are genuinely sick in the head

[foggy jungle]

It’s not a zero sum game. You can care about more than one thing.

[frozen crane]

Condensing Pride to one day wouldn't automatically put more attention on men's issues. If you care about men's issues, make a case for what we can do about them directly.

[mystic drift]

The lack of empathy is just

[tranquil iron]

I suspect you are correct about that too

[shrewd thunder]

These are absolutely the type of person who insists on a straight pride parade for "equality"

[mystic drift]

Can't even put it in words, but be better

[tranquil iron]

you can, but there are limits. no one can care about everything.

[tranquil iron]

lack of empathy is indifference

[shrewd thunder]

Mental health is important, yes. So is pride. You can support both without a problem. Remember, a rising tide lifts all boats.

[harsh tundra]

Oh, you missed a "the flag logo is discriminating us straight people, make branding with straight flag... No! Not the straight ally, just straight!" stuff in #community-meta

[tranquil iron]

that analogy does not always hold. it certainly does not hold for social status.

[shrewd thunder]

I actually ran out of popcorn when I saw that one.

[empty heron]

They are accepted by their surroundings, very few people are against them and when they find 1 person who disagrees with them all hell breaks loose.

[shrewd thunder]

when averaged over several hundred million years it sure does.

[tranquil iron]

for one group to have high social status, by necessity other groups must hold lower social status

status is a stacked ranking

[foggy jungle]

Creative false infinitives where they don’t exist is asinine. Of course people cannot care about everything, but blowing the argument up until it fits the narrative doesn’t condone the lack of support for societal issues, even if you yourself don’t have the energy or emotional capacity to undertake them.

[empty heron]

What statistics?

[shrewd thunder]

Literally a "BUT MAH NARRATIVE" moment

[empty heron]

There is no correlation, that’s exactly my point.

[mystic drift]

In other words, lack of basic human decency

[tranquil iron]

most people recognize this instinctively. which is why there is often such pushback when lower status people demand higher status from those currently holding higher status

[empty heron]

What? I’m asking for their source? I’m not gullible like you.

[shrewd thunder]

Remember, if equality is seen as oppression, you're usually the oppressor.

[tranquil iron]

it sucks, but it is what it is

[mystic drift]

What point? We literally aren't agreeing at all.

[empty heron]

There’s no correlation between pride month and men’s mental health months because little to no one talks about the latter.

[mystic drift]

???????????????????????????????????

Are you actually okay?

[tranquil iron]

I would agree there is no correlation there

[harsh tundra]

Where are we accepted? I had some random middle-aged man shout into my face that we should've all been wiped out by Hitler. The guy couldn't attack me directly because the march was theoretically protected by police (theoretically because praising nazism is against the law, police heard it but did nothing). I cannot be safely out. I have a bag with rainbow and a guy who previously rented office space to the company I'm working for tried to talk to me about it... We still rent some space from him, I have to interact with him...

[empty heron]

Yes

[distant hazel]

lol we are all for mental health of all people including men

[mystic drift]

We literally have celebrities constantly talking about it and their own mental health and how it affects them

[wraith hound]

I'm slowly backreading, but please don't descend to personal insults

[empty heron]

That’s racism not homophobia

[tranquil iron]

there seems to be a correlation between hitler loving nazis and assholes

[cobalt remnant]

reminder that a community that promotes tolerance cannot tolerate intolerance.

[shrewd thunder]

Ad hominem is a guaranteed argument loss in my book. No need to continue lol.

[mystic drift]

Just because you're willfully ignorant and want to be disingenuous to say that 'nobody cares about men' just so that you could bash about LGBT pride, I urge you to shut the fuck up

[cobalt remnant]

tolerance in all things except intolerance

[shrewd thunder]

the venn diagram is a circle lol

[empty heron]

Why is there no announcement for men’s mental healthy then? They quickly changed the server profile.

[harsh tundra]

Men's mental health month is November. It was very loud in both NA and Europe - idk about other places. Sorry you missed it. We still have mustache stickers in some places in the office

[jaunty wraith]

might be concentric circles

[empty heron]

Complain to the mods

[distant hazel]

what is men's mental healthy? is there a month dedicated to it?

[wraith hound]

if you want to propose branding for an event, make a proposal in #community-meta

[distant hazel]

i see, it's june?

[empty heron]

Shows how uneducated you are. Men’s mental health month is actually in June

So thanks for proving my point

[mystic drift]

'uneducated'

[harsh tundra]

Uh, what? I'm white, he was white. It was purely based on the fact we were queer people in June marching with rainbows. You know there were special markings for queer people in concentration camps, right? It's all part of history.

[foggy jungle]

I’m on mobile so fact finding is rough.

[wraith hound]

again, please don't resort to personal attacks. i'd suggest you reread #code-of-conduct.

and some places do in fact celebrate it in november.

[shrewd thunder]

I don't think they're going to let facts get in the way of their narrative

[foggy jungle]

Again, they’re both issues. But one does not trump the other.

[harsh tundra]

It's one org recognising it then. How is me not knowing some random American org "uneducated" when most orgs celebrate it in November?

[stark prawn]

Holy, even that 28 is way higher than I expected.

[empty heron]

Not my problem, it’s in June and I’ve show my source

[wheat lynx]

November (Movember) is the Men's mental health month I know of

[shrewd thunder]

wait until you see the bisexual rates compared to the gay and straight rates combined

[foggy jungle]

I would be willing to bet the LGBTQIA crowd would appear in droves to support mental health awareness.

[empty heron]

Random? It’s a organisation recognised across all of America 😭

[tranquil iron]

ever worked in direct sales? it helps teach you quickly that facts rarely convince anyone of anything. most people make decisions based on emotions and then justify their decisions post-hoc with facts.

[foggy jungle]

Benefit of the doubt.

[shrewd thunder]

And then they cherrypick for the confirmation bias

[tropic lichen]

I wouldn't be opposed to movember branding, i don't think it clashes with anything we have, and it'd be interesting to figure out how to go about branding, but its not a bad idea

[robust zephyr]

@empty heron in the time you've spent in here arguing you could have contributed to the server icon. i think if you really cared about this cause, you'd contribute more than arguments

[empty heron]

Name 1 time the LGBTQ community have done that

[empty heron]

How can I do that? I’m not a mod or anything

[cobalt remnant]

re: men's mental health
It would be weird if November was Men's Mental Health month, because that's NNN

[robust zephyr]

you do not have to be a mod! #community-meta - most of the work is just making the icon

[wheat lynx]

I'm still not sure what the argument here is.

[robust zephyr]

you may have noticed the current icon is many different icons if you hover it. it wouldn't be hard to add another

[harsh tundra]

pride stuff in Poland is actually about general equality, not just queer stuff. Different history from US "pride", so we just go together. But usually with rainbows and stuff as it's still main focus

[carmine apex]

june is indeed men's health month as well, but that's regular health, not mental health

[tranquil iron]

here's the thing... this holds true for people on "both sides" of the LGBTQ+ ... debate? movement? whatever you wanna call it

[cobalt remnant]

Women get an OB Gyn. What do men get?

[harsh tundra]

Joe did movember stuff at his uni. I wonder if his team's fundraising for men's mental health stuff could be shared then?

[cobalt remnant]

Yes, I'm aware of all the complications that require an OB Gyn

[robust zephyr]

Urologist

[tranquil iron]

"shut up and be a man" advice, lol

[foggy jungle]

I’m a cisgendered white male. I have MDD/GAD and PTSD. I was largely welcomed in mental health communities by individuals struggling with gender identity. Asking me to “name a community” is silly. I lived through the environment that you’re describing as critical and I’m largely appreciative of the numerous welcoming LGBTQ members that I met in therapy.

[shrewd thunder]

the rest of the healthcare industry as well as the us supreme court

[empty heron]

I didn’t ask you to name a community?

[foggy jungle]

You did.

[empty heron]

I didn’t

[foggy jungle]

You quite literally did even.

[tranquil iron]

there's a scrollback to settle this

[shrewd thunder]

Can confirm, you did. I was there.

[empty heron]

I asked you to name 1 time the LGBTQ community have done what you said

[solid elbow]

You asked them to name a time. And they named a time.

[foggy jungle]

I named a time.

[shrewd thunder]

"BUT MY NARRATIVE"

[mystic drift]

The cognitive dissonance

[tranquil iron]

there we go, debate settled. let's move on.

[mystic drift]

Is baffling

[jaunty wraith]

what have people implemented recently using their #ot1-perplexing-regexing

[foggy jungle]

The extreme desire to sleep.

[shrewd thunder]

Medical cannabis directly into my lungs

[mystic drift]

Big explodey rockets on modded KSP

18 hours and counting

[tranquil iron]

with vapes?

[jaunty wraith]

brad would be proud

[low chasm]

I got a pretty major refactor out of the way for my static site generator ;-;

[mystic drift]

🫡

[robust zephyr]

I've been trying to wrap my head around Redux

[shrewd thunder]

hell nah. a blunt with added keef.

[foggy jungle]

Static is dangerous to computers

[jaunty wraith]

how many rewrites has it been

[stark prawn]

Does it yield sites?

[low chasm]

like, 4

[foggy jungle]

He can’t count that high

[harsh tundra]

Warsaw's Equality Parade held living library regarding mental health in their Equality Town before the Parade itself and promotes local mental health specialists

[wraith hound]

i just used some code to solve some ridiculously hard puzzle :)

[shrewd thunder]

Nicky don't respond to trolls, it just encourages them.

[low chasm]

I've literally named it "yar", for "yet another rewrite"

[dry raft]

Not with good grounding

[low chasm]

and it is one of the basest pieces of software I've had the pleasure of writing

[foggy jungle]

“You’re grounded mister,” - Me, to my computer

[tranquil iron]

what about static types?

[jaunty wraith]

maybe you can call it "Yet Another Rewrite… Again"

[foggy jungle]

Unacceptable

[jaunty wraith]

shorten it to YARA or something

[errant ivy]

what does cisgender mean

[summer knot]

so that would be ... Yar's Revenge?

[tropic lichen]

you sound like a minecraft mod developer with that kinda naming scheme lmao

[solemn tulip]

(YA)²R

[low chasm]

that's longer 😰

[grizzled venture]

i hate minorities

[harsh tundra]

If it encourages then, then it's working. I'll continue to answer verifiable facts to their bad-faith questions. They can either continue to dig a hole for themselves and slip (do something for mod to react), or they can just shut up. Both choices are fine for me

[low chasm]

pardon? That is not an appropriate comment to make, at all.

[robust zephyr]

you identify with the gender you were assigned at birth

[shrewd thunder]

Therapy is a good option for this.

[errant ivy]

import time
from win10toast import ToastNotifier

while(True):

 toaster = ToastNotifier()

 time.sleep(3600)
 toaster.show_toast("hi :)", "remember to check your posture and drink some water", duration = 1)``` by the way can anybody lmk if this would work to notify hourly? I didn't get a response in general and don't want to repost

[shrewd thunder]

I should invite my therapist to this discord, she'll have enough material for a second PhD in under an hour!

[foggy jungle]

Therapy is a good option always

[tranquil iron]

lol

[tranquil iron]

is it? Or is that just what therapists say?

[foggy jungle]

Idk ask your therapist.

[shrewd thunder]

America moment: I have to drive to CVS to pick up my medication for driving anxiety.

Because the trolleys are gone.

[robust zephyr]

i hate driving

[harsh tundra]

This reminds me, when someone calls me being queer a mental illness or that I should get my head checked, I respond that yes, I'm under psychiatrist care and they're fine with my queerness :3

[jaunty wraith]

why are the trolleys gone

[foggy jungle]

… the fuck are trolleys?

[tranquil iron]

https://youtu.be/cmF567zZPi8?t=33s

[jaunty wraith]

.wa s define trolleys

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

a wheeled vehicle that runs on rails and is propelled by electricity

[tranquil iron]

philly has trolleys

[foggy jungle]

Ah.

[shrewd thunder]

My therapist is also my hiking buddy. She and her wife are great.

[jaunty wraith]

if you troll on the trolleys, what are you

[tranquil iron]

a trolley troll?

[shrewd thunder]

Does the trolley troll also collect trolley tolls?

[errant ivy]

what is xe/xem

[shrewd thunder]

Their pronouns. Just like how mine are he/they

[stark prawn]

I'm not sure I would want that kind of relationship with my therapist.

[errant ivy]

ye but what gender

[jaunty wraith]

could be answered with a poll

[carmine apex]

i give you the longest wikipedia URL ever made: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_languages_with_gendered_third-person_pronouns#Table_of_standard_and_non-standard_third-person_singular_pronouns

[errant ivy]

like he is man, she is woman

[tranquil iron]

oh god, please don't

[errant ivy]

wait what

[shrewd thunder]

here we go

[harsh tundra]

Pronouns 🙂
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/xe#Pronoun
https://en.pronouns.page/xe

[shrewd thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[tranquil iron]

you too, please don't

[jaunty wraith]

what's that logo

looks like infinity

[errant ivy]

can someone explain without a big paragraph, im lazy and dont wanna read

[errant ivy]

looks like dude perfect lmao

[jaunty wraith]

I have no idea what that is

[errant ivy]

its a youtube channel, idk about their actual logo, but it looks like DP

group of guys that do trickshots

[wraith hound]

some people prefer pronouns that are not he/him or she/her. xe/xem is one such set.

[harsh tundra]

Pronouns are part of gender expression, they don't need to mean any gender. There are nonbinary people using binary pronouns. Historically in the queer community there were and are men who go by she/her and women who go by he/him. See "he/him lesbians"

[solid elbow]

People who feel uncomfortable with both "he" and "she" often ask to be called something else.

[errant ivy]

oh but does it have a specific gender or does someone be a man or woman but use xe xem

[tranquil iron]

imagine if english was a gendered language like french, spanish or italian...

[harsh tundra]

Why? They asked me specifically about MY pronouns. Why shouldn't i educate on MY pronouns because you say so?

[shrewd thunder]

COME ON NOUN DECLENSIONS

[wraith hound]

any pronoun set, even he/him or she/her, does not have a particular gender

[mystic drift]

Honestly, I prefer them most of the time

[jaunty wraith]

what's a noun declension

[mystic drift]

But I'm fine with either

[errant ivy]

wtf im so confused 😭

[shrewd thunder]

Latin grammar is best grammar. Fight me.

[frozen crane]

like how "he" and "him" are the same word

[dry raft]

Romanian?

[harsh tundra]

Pronouns.page has a nice explanation. Each language has this explanation so just go to pronouns.page directly, select a language, and read

[errant ivy]

ill call you they/them less confusing for me

[shrewd thunder]

https://en.pronouns.page/he%26they is mine

[tranquil iron]

must you?

[errant ivy]

I don't know if this is going to sound really rude, but I don't care that much (idk is that mean)

like ill call you them, or any pronouns

but I odn't want to read about them

[stark prawn]

Yes that does sound really rude.

[shrewd thunder]

It is quite rude

[tranquil iron]

I'll just call Nicky Nicky

[shrewd thunder]

Must I what?

[harsh tundra]

You literally asked for explanation so I told you where to find it. Don't ask the question if you don't want the answer

[wraith hound]

call people what they want to be called.

[foggy jungle]

You asked about them.

[errant ivy]

I asked the question, got my answer and got confused, so I'm not going to dig deeper and get more confused

[harsh tundra]

Yes, you said you want someone to write here, when easy explanation is already available and easily accessible... You want people to do stuff for you but you dont even want to do minimum for others

[errant ivy]

no no I meant any pronouns they want to be called (like they go xe xem or they them, so I do any of those)

[tranquil iron]

in fairness, he did admit he was lazy

[wraith hound]

then that is fine

[foggy jungle]

That’s… strangely wholesome, I think?

[solemn tulip]

I think "I don't personally care, but I'm happy to respect your preferences" is a sane position

[solid elbow]

I can try for a simpler explanation. Judging by "Paul", my educated guess would be that you like people to refer to you as "him", and wouldn't like it if someone referred to you as "her", right?

[errant ivy]

yeah yeah

[harsh tundra]

Q: did they specify their own pronouns? If not, I'd not assume everyone on the Internet is a man

[jaunty wraith]

them is a good choice if you don't know the preferred pronouns

[errant ivy]

paul goodman is a character, but yeah im a dude

[tranquil iron]

I try not to assume that

[stark prawn]

I try to default to they/them if I don't know, even though it sometimes angers people.

[dry raft]

...and has been since time immemorial.

(Well, not immemorial, since we have records!)

[jaunty wraith]

since written history

[harsh tundra]

There are trans and nonbinary people who use gendered names, so even if someone appears to have a name shown but no pronouns, I go for they

[dry raft]

Probably since before then, too.

[tranquil iron]

in some languages pronounces are almost never used

[stark prawn]

All history is written history, otherwise it would be prehistory.

[errant ivy]

I feel like you can typically tell whether someone is he him or she her by demeanor, pfp, name, so thats how I default

[harsh tundra]

14th century recorded. Singular they is literally older than singular you

[dry raft]

Yep, I know of the source, couldn't recall the date

[harsh tundra]

Before that, it's a mix of sources, it isn't even clear when "he" and "she" appeared and how they exactly formed

[tranquil iron]

english of the 14th century is not recognizable as english

[dry raft]

But it(or similar) is certainly a feature of many languages predating that, too.

[solid elbow]

fair enough. So, there are people who feel uncomfortable being called either "him" or "her", in the same way as you feel uncomfortable being called "her". Those people have lots of different ways they like to be called. Many of them prefer "they", but some find prefer other words - neopronouns like "xe" or "ey"

[errant ivy]

in some theyre used for objects, par example, francais

[dry raft]

14th C English is still modern English

[shrewd thunder]

didn't both singular they and singular you come from singular thou?

[tranquil iron]

like in korean, you usually say "brother" or "aunty" or "grandma" or "younger sister" or whatever. e.g. "aunty, I'd like a beer" to your waitress if she's older than you and female

[harsh tundra]

Plural you existed together with singular thou, so switching you to both plural and singular was a change

[tranquil iron]

some languages don't have plural forms

[harsh tundra]

Then French version of pronouns.page could be interesting for you https://pronoms.fr/

[errant ivy]

yeah but the name wouldnt be replaced with the pronoun in that situation

[tranquil iron]

instead you say things like "many dog"

[shrewd thunder]

or japanese where there weren't any gendered pronouns until the americans came along and insisted on it

[solemn tulip]

apparently "they" stems for old norse where it wasn't used for singular

[tropic lichen]

pronoms, frfr

[errant ivy]

nope I hate french, hate it, only reason I speak it is because I need to in my country

[cosmic quiver]

in Finland we refer to people as "it" (se) in speech and as "they" (hän) in 'book language', if you say 'hän' in casual conversation there's usually a reason to do it, and it sounds kinda posh, and frankly this is the system we should use in English too

[jaunty wraith]

ong

[errant ivy]

she, I'd like a beer or her, I'd like a beer

[stark prawn]

It's interesting to see how language is changing, even within my lifetime.

[tranquil iron]

in chinese "he/she" in spoken form is the same word, but different in written form

[solemn tulip]

interesting, the version we have in swedish nowadays is not singular either

[shrewd thunder]

like that huge-ass vowel shift in the us midwest?