#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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short skiff
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ooh that ones good, but I feel like it's a bit more obvious what it does

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because it's clearly an infinite while

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["πŸ’£"*(2**32)for _ in __import__("itertools").repeat(None)]

this works much faster than my prev

crystal spruce
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!e

[0for(_)in iter(int,1)]
royal lakeBOT
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@crystal spruce :x: Your 3.11 eval job timed out or ran out of memory.

001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: invalid decimal literal
002 |   [0for(_)in iter(int,1)]
short skiff
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I think the only way to do it efficiently is with a relatively heavy datastructure like a string

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ooh maybe you could make a custom object and then a list of those

short skiff
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mine combined w urs is better than both I think: ```python
["πŸ’£"*(2**32)for(_)in iter(int,1)]

crystal spruce
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!e does this work

a = []
exec('a=zip(a);'*(2<<32))
[*a]
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huh

royal lakeBOT
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@crystal spruce :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     exec('a=zip(a);'*(2<<32))
004 |          ~~~~~~~~~~~^^~~~~~~
005 | MemoryError
quasi blaze
thick ore
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I hope at least one of these are extended markdown

short skiff
stable fulcrum
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No, it didn't crash, the string becomes soo big that it is using 10gb of ram

short skiff
vale hull
stable fulcrum
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And it have to process that string every .replace

short skiff
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I thought u were talking about my script not urs

short skiff
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the one I posted tho does fill up ur entire memory

stable fulcrum
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Fork bombs eat up memory by duplicating processes, once I was running fork bomb for fun and I ran it on my Android, the memory went to see hell

short skiff
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did u see the screenshot I posted earlier

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I got up to like 35gb of ram

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before my OS told me to start quitting processes

stable fulcrum
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No

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My android wasn't even able to do that

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I did it on termux

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Ran bash fork bomb

short skiff
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try running this:

["πŸ’£"*(2**32)for(_)in range(10)]
stable fulcrum
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It was filling memory too fast that it wasn't able to handle it and kill process

short skiff
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haha

stable fulcrum
royal lakeBOT
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5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

stable fulcrum
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Some beginners gonna run that so don't

short skiff
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it isn't really malicious when we're talking about memory bombs

stable fulcrum
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Well it is

short skiff
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then how is it even possible to discuss that?

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obviously if I was misleading people then yeah

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but malicious doesn't just mean does something bad, it means it was intended to be bad

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otherwise it would be called negligent

stable fulcrum
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We are discussing about them in ot, not discussing how to make one

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And lets switch topic

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.topic

median domeBOT
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**Tea or coffee? What about milk?**

Suggest more topics here!

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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I don't really think you need to be that paranoid, there's an entire channel devoted to esoteric python which inherently includes stuff like this

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Also that rule says "do not provide or request help" not "do not discuss"

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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There are many topics there

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I even promoted a contest in that channel that I'm running for esoteric python

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memory bombs are like classic IOCCC territory

short skiff
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I removed the part that makes it infinite tho

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Eating memory also isn't really unsafe

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we aren't running these things on bare metal

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it's in an interpreter

stable fulcrum
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Though I dont think that it gonna work

short skiff
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wydm it clearly does I posted a screenshot

vale hull
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It does crash termux

short skiff
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of 27gb

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watch this

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wait

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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I posted it earlier in the conversation you replied to...

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I just did this now tho

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It ran up until 80gb then was force quit by the OS

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but it does work

stable fulcrum
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I ran without for loop and my android killed termux before

short skiff
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well yeah if you're running it on android you're running it in a vm in a vm

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so the memory limits will be much diff

stable fulcrum
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vm no?

short skiff
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android runs in a java virtual machine

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on linux

stable fulcrum
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Oh yeah jvm

short skiff
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yeah so obviously that's gonna be garbage collecting and shit

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probs will die much faster

stable fulcrum
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I would try by ssh instead

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But no root

short skiff
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I wouldn't do that tbh because you might lose control of the host process

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like if the server you're sshing to gets all its memory taken it might kill ur sshd process

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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true I was just saying for anyone that might try it on an machine that they can't physically reboot

stable fulcrum
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Except people running really ancient pc not supporting acpi

short skiff
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that's what I meant by physically reboot

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you have to hold an actual button that exists in real life on the server

vale hull
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That's one of the reasons why cloud servers are virtualized

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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after consuming a ton of resources though

jaunty wraith
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if the cloud server is a VM (which it most likely is), the VPS provider probably has a console with a "Reboot" button

short skiff
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yeah but if you just paste this in to your ssh session

stable fulcrum
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And if no, you should have sysadmin to do that

short skiff
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it takes up memory super fast

jaunty wraith
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by console, I mean a web console a la AWS

short skiff
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yeah no I'm just saying you would have to react within two seconds to make sure it doesn't take up 60gb+

stable fulcrum
short skiff
stable fulcrum
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I know

jaunty wraith
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yeah, I'm talking when ssh is ded

short skiff
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yeah

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you wouldn't be able to ssh into the server

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so you'd have to login to Azure or whatever and click the reboot button

stable fulcrum
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And what if its not a vps but bare metal?

short skiff
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then that wouldn't be in the cloud

jaunty wraith
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contact the hosting provider

short skiff
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and that would be a diff conversation

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yeah you'd have to contact the sysadmin or whatever

stable fulcrum
short skiff
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if it's a remote host you still can't physically press buttons on it

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that's what I'm saying

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unless the server is physically in the same exact area you are in, you cannot recover if the ssh goes out, unless you have a console provided by the VPS

stable fulcrum
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you cant but you can contact sysadmin

short skiff
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yes but as I just said

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it takes 2 seconds

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to fill up 60gb

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so you call the sysadmin, and by then you have multiple terabytes of ram and everythings failing

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that is why I said what I said like 20 messages ago

stable fulcrum
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Also if its a remote host, it should have memory management for security

short skiff
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ok well this was explicitly in the case where it doesn't

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also even if it does have memory management, often that means kicking off older processes

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not just killing new ones

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and then we're back to no ssh and you gotta either push a button, or use the power of electricity to tell some other person to push a button

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but anyways I was literally just saying that

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bc u were telling me that I should be aware of noobs copy pasting my code

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if I had it my way I could have just pasted the snippet and we could have talked about it lol

stable fulcrum
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The easiest way is, to go to power station and cut off line

short skiff
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Actually easier way to is to steal the catalytic converter from the head technician of the power station repeatedly over multiple months until the power station eventually fails

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it's kinda cool how power stations have so much electricity they don't even need much security because you will die if you touch them

stable fulcrum
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A better way is to just throw a metal rod at hyper tension line towers so that it may short out

short skiff
stable fulcrum
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Thats too much work

short skiff
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No electricity == 100% bug free code

stable fulcrum
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Though you also just shortout local transformer

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Even easier

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Or you can steal coolant from nuclear power plant

short skiff
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that turns into steam

stable fulcrum
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Yeah its only water forgot that

short skiff
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yeah that makes sense

stable fulcrum
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Though you can steal water from hydro power plants(dams)

short skiff
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I wonder if the difference is that coolant is recycled through like a radiator

short skiff
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whereas the water is generally released as steam

stable fulcrum
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A coolant is a substance, typically liquid, that is used to reduce or regulate the temperature of a system. An ideal coolant has high thermal capacity, low viscosity, is low-cost, non-toxic, chemically inert and neither causes nor promotes corrosion of the cooling system. Some applications also require the coolant to be an electrical insulator.
Ok water wouldn't count

short skiff
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yeah water has pretty low thermal capacity

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it boils at like 120F

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or something like that

stable fulcrum
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100Β°C

short skiff
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I imagine it's super hard to design a coolant system where it's boiling the entire time

stable fulcrum
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And 100C is 212F

rare wing
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poo pee

rough sapphire
rare wing
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Thanks man

rough sapphire
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yw bud

stable fulcrum
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how he got panel in right

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I dont see a option to

meager obsidian
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i like pizza

thick ore
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i did not expect this

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wsl X11 actually works on windows?

short skiff
thick ore
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but the raylib window is in WSL

short skiff
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that's still pretty cool

paper sequoia
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Yellow snow, the best snow

violet mural
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I don't have they pay enough to employees bankers

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they detect metal not nano computers or even a usb drive

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I mean it's a national bank they don't pay enough to employees accept external payments

grave cove
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what

violet mural
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not acess to memory ram

foggy jungle
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what

violet mural
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how the screen with protection is called

jaunty wraith
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…protected screen?

foggy jungle
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... metal scanners?

violet mural
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it hard to pass with a pen drive throught it?

foggy jungle
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Are you asking how to... smuggle things into a bank?

violet mural
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how to use a south america country to make massive load payments to China

jaunty wraith
tranquil iron
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what are "massive load payments"?

violet mural
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sexy things

jaunty wraith
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what

grave cove
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what

tranquil iron
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what?

foggy jungle
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what

ionic bane
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what

round basalt
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what

acoustic moss
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Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, Breaker of Chains

grave cove
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what

foggy jungle
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what

stable fulcrum
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what

robust zephyr
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that's not even her whole title

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put some respect on her name

tranquil iron
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she's definitely in the no-go zone of the the hot-crazy matrix

grave cove
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what

foggy jungle
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what

pale wharf
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is there a way that I can protect a github branch and only allow github actions to push to it and no one else?

tranquil iron
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probably

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that sort of functionality may be reserved for paying customers though

true glen
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For those who have been on Discord for over maybe 5 years, what happens to all these discussions?

crystal spruce
crystal heron
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how do i annoy vardrid fans?

paper sequoia
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@foggy jungle sorry for ping, mind reading a DM I sent (if they are open)

foggy jungle
grave cove
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denied πŸ™

tardy rain
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Cant DM sweet nothings at KP now

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πŸ˜”

young shoal
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😭

robust zephyr
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KP's DMs are exclusive, the stuff of legends

foggy jungle
robust zephyr
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aww

low chasm
vapid horizon
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I can prove that 1+1=3

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no cap

grave cove
vapid horizon
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k

vale hull
tulip falcon
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Lol based

foggy jungle
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Which inevitably leads to β€œoh my friend wants to talk to you”, a temper tantrum or two, and then they go away. πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

tulip falcon
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The malware creators friend wants to talk to you?

foggy jungle
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Idk they always seem to have some other friend that β€œknows how to hack” or that they β€œgot the files from”.

tulip falcon
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Wtf my laundry smells weird

thick ore
tulip falcon
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It was cleaned I guess. Maybe it sat wet in the washer for a while

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Gotta put on some music to get hyped up

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This is an appropriate name for OT channel - up at 2am gang

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Waking up at 2am that is

lucid patrol
tulip falcon
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Wow I feel smarter for trying to read that

stark oasis
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We live in a world where lowering the number of children is probably better for everyone on the planet so yeah that shit is moronic and i hope you get banned for posting it

plush sun
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There are at least three problems with your message, holy cow

tardy rain
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Why are we reducing babies and not oldies, midsommar style

small coral
hexed sierra
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keep it civil peeps

tardy rain
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Isnt africa one of those places where people have tons of kids regardless of resources to feed them?

small coral
hexed sierra
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you mean like japan and large parts of europe?

plush sun
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A good thing is that as I was watching it, it was brought up here

tardy rain
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Japan needs help lol yea

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Government mandated girlfriends and boyfriends

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I think i've read this one before

small coral
paper sequoia
plush sun
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It even mentioned that contraception made it so more sexual partners in life resulted in fewer children, not more

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So why in the hell did Div even express disagreement

small coral
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it talks about how SSB-associated alleles results in lowering the amount of children

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but literally nothing about "good or not?" in there

plush sun
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I think that's one part of it too

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Just everything about this makes it all the more questionable that that was Div's response

tulip falcon
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Maybe they're just having a bad day

mystic drift
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The higher the education, the less chances of having multiple children

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It's inversely proportional

harsh tundra
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@honest oracle @rough sapphire continuing from pygen about the discord anniversary comic...
Ohno, that's Merryweather's comic... His comics are hit or miss imo - some are too much, seem forced, while others are really fun

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Lol

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Omg, ep 1 is kinda... Weird but Wumpus' reaction is gold.

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Btw, when there are reading events, sometimes you get to read stuff you have already read previously... Fast scrolling it is then

tulip falcon
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I wanna die

young shoal
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that's unhealthy

tulip falcon
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Help

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ow

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@young shoal I feel like "is it even worth it to go on", or is what I'm doing contrived even

tulip falcon
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I feel like getting drunk and like noone hears me or cares

distant hazel
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not appropriate for here please do not continue this track of conversation

low chasm
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the fact that you have to cripple yourself with debt for the next 15 years of your life is just so absurd to me
@mystic drift fwiw, that's not really a given ~ the situation isn't ideal, though, I'll agree

mystic drift
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Forty-three million

low chasm
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right, people do have loans, but they aren't always crippling

mystic drift
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How come you haven't revolted yet

grave cove
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most people take college loans one way or another

mystic drift
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overthrown the government and shit

grave cove
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the system has it's flaws but it isn't terrible

low chasm
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and there's financial aid as well

grave cove
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at least to me, as someone just going through all of that

mystic drift
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your healthcare system is just so predatory that people prefer to die on the street rather than taking an ambulance

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everything is made for max profit

low chasm
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healthcare would be a different topic, though

grave cove
mystic drift
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it works the same

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banks thrive off predatory rates by poor students that don't have a choice but to take those loans to have a slight chance of succeeding on the corporate meatgrinder

wraith hound
grave cove
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FWIW most students in my area are taking out loans (and it's a pretty affluent area)

mystic drift
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you know, arrest the dudes that are literally holding your national in a chokehold?

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like, france style revolt

low chasm
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most loans are federal, aren't they

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I'm fairly sure

grave cove
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FAFSA and all that yeah

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there are private loans too but they usually have stricter repayment terms

low chasm
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and, like, it's not necessarily a slight chance of succeeding either

grave cove
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a college degree is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself career-wise

mystic drift
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I won't speak for americans on this matter since I don't really know how it's for y'all there

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but

low chasm
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like, going into CS, I'm fairly confident that while I will have to take out loans, they aren't going to ruin my life, and I'll likely be able to manage them.

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but yeah, I suppose there are worse cases

mystic drift
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entry level jobs are raising their expectations so much that bachelors don't even fit the bill anymore

grave cove
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i didn't qualify for fafsa πŸ₯΄

low chasm
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doesn't like everyone qualify for fasfa πŸ₯΄

mystic drift
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and funnily enough, the pay isn't keeping up with those expectations

mystic drift
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But surely there are better options?

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jesus christ what has became of the world where corporate can just crush us like that

grave cove
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i'm not a citizen might have something to do with that

mystic drift
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hopefully it gets better somewhat in the future

grave cove
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got TAFSA tho

mystic drift
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yes

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I'm talking about my area

young shoal
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oh maybe

honest oracle
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pov: you code your own social media app and give yourself 1B followers

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(there is a small chance I actually did that with Mindstream)

short skiff
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"hey can I get a free meal, I have 300 trillion followers"

honest oracle
rough sapphire
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Does anyone here know how i can add a extension to the chromewebdriver using selenium in c#

fading fable
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the font is 'proggycleantt'

tardy rain
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did the channels get emojis in the titles just now

frozen coral
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I'm not seeing any in mobile

tardy rain
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im on the web client

foggy jungle
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Not seeing it on desktop application but I haven't restarted either.

tardy rain
foggy jungle
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I like it. hmm

frozen coral
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Odd

tardy rain
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its not pydis?

foggy jungle
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Were those set by the admin team or did they auto populate? pithink

frozen coral
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It's nothing we've done fwiw, must be a discord thing

tardy rain
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discord guessing at channel names lmao

foggy jungle
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Huh. Cute.

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Prepare for the flood of 'Y CHANGE CHANNEL NAMES' I suppose.

tardy rain
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hm, lets see if the ot emojis change with the daily name change soon

young shoal
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ridiculous

round rampart
heavy pawn
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wth

foggy jungle
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Someone else posted a picture in another Discord of it too.

next vessel
heavy pawn
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I don't see them

foggy jungle
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I think it's cool. pithink

heavy pawn
foggy jungle
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Lemme try killing Discord.

tardy rain
round rampart
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maybe its bc im on canary?

honest star
round rampart
heavy pawn
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That's cool

young shoal
heavy pawn
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Me gusta

foggy jungle
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Nada on desktop app.

tardy rain
heavy pawn
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No keep it on

foggy jungle
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Just restarted.

heavy pawn
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and tell me how to see them too

grave cove
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wtf is this

next vessel
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Not on ios app

grave cove
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someone tell me 😭

heavy pawn
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oh damn it's gone

honest star
round rampart
next vessel
grave cove
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whaaat

tranquil iron
grave cove
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this is news to me

foggy jungle
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It's not just PyDis FWIW

frozen coral
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Could be worse lol

heavy pawn
frozen coral
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From another server

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It's being reverted btw, if you refresh it should be gone

grave cove
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i got nothing after a restart

foggy jungle
tardy rain
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I can see this in reactiflux, c#, etc

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the big ones

honest star
heavy pawn
frozen coral
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Accidental roll out by discord from what DAC is saying

grave cove
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Oh shit it's on mobile

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On the new UI at least

foggy jungle
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Discord 'try not to screw up a new feature' challenge

grave cove
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✨

foggy jungle
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Hello we have markdown though.

tardy rain
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where egg offtopic

round rampart
foggy jungle
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oh. No we don't.

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  • Do I have bullets?
tardy rain
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πŸ”«

grave cove
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neat

tranquil iron
round rampart
heavy pawn
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how to enable it in desktop app?

grave cove
heavy pawn
tranquil iron
round rampart
grave cove
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✨

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click on this emoji

next vessel
grave cove
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then hold down on it

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on the little popup i mean

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on mobile

tranquil iron
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but easter is long over

grave cove
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hard to explain

round rampart
foggy jungle
grave cove
round rampart
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Ye

heavy pawn
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I am on desktop

next vessel
grave cove
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Press and hold on it

round rampart
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Ya

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WOAH

foggy jungle
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If you pester a sever boost icon enough you get more confetti.

grave cove
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should load you into the new UI

round rampart
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it worked. Is this permanent?

grave cove
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no

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do the same thing again to revert

next vessel
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To leave it (as you will want to) repeat the steps

round rampart
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I c.

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That’s trippy as balls

grave cove
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it's like when you change the language on an app and you have to fumble around trying to set it back haha

foggy jungle
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I'm old.

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So it's new to me.

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Not hip with the Discord features.

grave cove
young shoal
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actual boomer

rugged owl
foggy jungle
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I think my account is fairly old-- I should be able to get something decent if it's time gated relatively well

young shoal
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hm yeah, 2016 is p old

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boomer

robust zephyr
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just trademark your name and steal it if necessary

foggy jungle
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Oh right I'm Kernel Panic here. I was gonna' say, trademarking 'Rem' might be tough.

tardy rain
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Older

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By 5 days kek

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Damn psv were you even allowed to have an account in 2016

foggy jungle
foggy jungle
tardy rain
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Bannable imo

young shoal
foggy jungle
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At-Moderators!

young shoal
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at least i think so

rugged owl
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Inb4 xxXXSkyglowXXxx or Skyglow8976468

young shoal
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i would turn 13 a few months after getting the account

foggy jungle
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I believe it's lower case only

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skyglowthevbaenthusiast

vale raven
young shoal
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just put your discriminator into the name lmao

vale raven
young shoal
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skyglow5199

foggy jungle
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skyglowdbwizard

tardy rain
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Im hoping for at least 1x 69 in mine

rugged owl
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Really time to prep the old resume. sigh

foggy jungle
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Already? Didn't you just move for the job?

rugged owl
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wat, no. I've been here for 1.7 years now.

foggy jungle
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You were hunting for an apartment... am I high?

young shoal
rugged owl
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I was hunting for apartments because the house was getting renovated.

foggy jungle
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oh

rugged owl
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Hence the short term (6month lease) and shitty place I found.

rugged owl
young shoal
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oh the person with the sad resume?

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an ape could have improved that ngl

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they would like, rip the second page off and it'd be better

rugged owl
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lmao for real

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They honestly should be getting interviews pretty easily. Phd + 2YoE

tardy rain
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Phd in sucking at CVs

rugged owl
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Next stop is buying a house, no more renting crap. At least at a min I can a always rent the house out. 2k a month can easily be a mortgage. CL0_DuckySMH

young shoal
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phd in sucking

foggy jungle
tardy rain
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My next iteration will be an MS sticky note bullet point list i just share with people

foggy jungle
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Ayy fingerguns psvm

rugged owl
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Permanently Head Damaged

young shoal
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apparently i didn't save enough in my chipotle 401k for them to let me keep it with them

young shoal
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they're kicking me out 😭

rugged owl
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what? wtf? how does that even work

young shoal
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well like, not really. i can like, do a rollover

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am i allowed to have both a roth and traditional ira πŸ€”

foggy jungle
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yes

young shoal
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and is that even a good idea

foggy jungle
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uhh

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no.

young shoal
#

interesting

foggy jungle
#

You are never going to be more poor in your life than you are right now.

young shoal
#

apparently my internship also has a 401k πŸ€” maybe i'll just roll it into that πŸ€”

rugged owl
#

You can have both a traditional 401k & Roth IRA though. (What I have)

young shoal
#

yeah that's what i have

foggy jungle
#

Roth is fantastic for entry level employees, college students etc.

young shoal
#

that's me πŸ₯Ί

foggy jungle
#

You do not want to pay taxes later in life.

rugged owl
#

Well, there's way to dodge taxes

#

legally dodge taxes

young shoal
#

dying

tardy rain
#

Flee the country

young shoal
#

you'll get extradited

#

unless you're in russia or something

#

i can roll it into a roth ira, but then i have to pay taxes on that D:

#

though it's only like 500 dollars lol so it's kinda fine

rugged owl
young shoal
#

yeah for a Roth IRA you don't I think

#

oh and apparently, I'm not eligible for my internship company's 401k thing lol. cause I'm not 21

foggy jungle
#

Congratulations @grave cove for successfully surviving graduating high school. We're proud of you! ❀️

young shoal
#

who?

foggy jungle
#

Rude 😦

rugged owl
#

what the, I'm getting AB tested. This is on laptop

#

Desktop

young shoal
#

same account?

rugged owl
#

I only have one account. Both on firefox web version

#

lmao, now it's gone once I did a refresh on the laptop

robust zephyr
#

i saw it earlier and then my discord restarted by itself and now it is gone

violet mural
#

the stealth technology it's like emission of fake signals?

vapid horizon
#

no, more like the blocking of signals

young shoal
#

no it's not

violet mural
#

physical invisibility?

#

camuflage it's better

vapid horizon
vapid horizon
violet mural
#

dynamic stealth

tranquil iron
#

stealth tech either absorbs radar signals or reflects them in a direction away from the sender (so they can't be detected). emitting fake signals is "jamming".

vapid horizon
#

i dont think it has dynamic stealth

violet mural
#

like missiles that emulates being other things

vapid horizon
tranquil iron
#

the SR-71 is over a half century old, it has zero stealth tech in it

vapid horizon
tranquil iron
tranquil iron
vapid horizon
foggy jungle
#

This was a major problem in Vietnam IIRC.

tranquil iron
vapid horizon
young shoal
tranquil iron
vapid horizon
#

The Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" is a long-range, high-altitude, Mach 3+ strategic reconnaissance aircraft developed and manufactured by the American aerospace company Lockheed Corporation. It was operated by the United States Air Force and NASA.

tranquil iron
vapid horizon
#

I'm waiting for the Lockheed Martin SR-72 Darkstar

tranquil iron
#

are you gonna try to fly it?

vapid horizon
tranquil iron
#

cool frioles

vapid horizon
#

wdym

violet mural
#

how the soviets were capable of moving so much stuff to Cuba without being noticed

tranquil iron
#

which is how you usually move a lots of stuff from place to place

violet mural
#

they just changed the name of the ships? like non-military soviet

tranquil iron
violet mural
#

I see it in a movie

tranquil iron
#

this may be news to you but cuba is an independent nation and the oceans are not under the control of the USA

young shoal
#

sadly

tranquil iron
#

lol

violet mural
young shoal
#

think of all the taxes we could impose

#

there would be EZpass for the ocean

tranquil iron
#

the US was vigilant. that's how we knew there were nukes in cuba. which, btw, was a response to the US placing nukes in turkey, right next to the USSR

violet mural
#

putting nukes close to opponent countries is childish

tranquil iron
#

the US wasn't yet used to other nations having nukes

vapid horizon
#

just keep it in alaska

#

direct travel to russia

tranquil iron
#

this was in 1960-1962, our missiles wouldn't have reached strategic targets from alaska

#

but we did have bombers with nukes in alaska

vapid horizon
#

they wouldve

#

actually

#

wait, can i spam in here

#

@everyon

violet mural
#

moving nukes in submarines

vapid horizon
#

submarines are nuclear powered

young shoal
#

not always

vapid horizon
#

us subs are

violet mural
#

and some have nuclear nukes and it's only purpose it's a nuke situation

young shoal
#

not always

vapid horizon
#

most of the times

tranquil iron
#

this is 1961, only 4 years after sputnik, before the first US launch of Mercury

vapid horizon
#

they first tried to launch a berry

tranquil iron
#

the vast majority of US nuclear forces were strategic bombers

vapid horizon
#

im waiting for the b-22 bomber

violet mural
#

eddie murphy is a secret weapon

vapid horizon
#

no, rick astley

low chasm
vapid horizon
violet mural
#

the close to him call him crazy frog

vapid horizon
#

rick astley is called

#

"Never gonna give you up"

#

"Never gonna let you down"

#

"Never gonna run around and desert you"

#

"Never gonna make you cry"

#

"Never gonna say goodbye"

violet mural
#

and never gonna be Eddie Murphy

vapid horizon
#

always gonna be

#

your dad who went to get the milk

violet mural
#

dude, eddie murphy has a song with snoop

vapid horizon
#

have u ever heard of alan walker

violet mural
#

alan the walk a lot? was my colleague

vapid horizon
violet mural
#

the faded

tranquil iron
#

he looks shady.

vapid horizon
#

he is shady

#

in music

#

jk

violet mural
#

slim shady?

vapid horizon
#

jk

tranquil iron
#

are you shady?

vapid horizon
#

yes

violet mural
#

a imitation

young shoal
#

will you stand up?

vapid horizon
#

yes, but to whom

violet mural
#

you can kick 20 rhymes in just one minute?

young shoal
#

would you say you are relatively thin?

vapid horizon
#

compared to whom

young shoal
#

average

vapid horizon
#

kinda

young shoal
#

would you please stand up?

vapid horizon
#

wait a second, isnt public static void a java reference

vapid horizon
violet mural
#

8 in a test is good?

vapid horizon
#

a long time ago

vapid horizon
tranquil iron
vapid horizon
tranquil iron
#

if you gotta ask if your test score is good, it's not good

vapid horizon
#

or 8/9 or 8/8

violet mural
#

8 but it's a letter

vapid horizon
#

its the highest score you can get: ♾️ aka 8

tranquil iron
#

just remember that time is a cube

vapid horizon
#

and that we are living in a 4d world

violet mural
#

yes, or more d's who knows

vapid horizon
#

its mathematiclly proven as 4ds

tranquil iron
#

the shadow knows

violet mural
#

like the sum of all natural numbers are - 1/12? I don't buy it

vapid horizon
violet mural
#

I don't remember the name of the book I read it

vapid horizon
#

Einstein 's theory of relativity is formulated in 4D space, although not in a Euclidean 4D space. Einstein's concept of spacetime has a Minkowski structure based on a non-Euclidean geometry with three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension, rather than the four symmetric spatial dimensions of SchlΓ€fli's Euclidean 4D space.

violet mural
#

it's probably on megaupload

vapid horizon
#

no, Ive used python to actually crunch the numbers in the equation, and ive run sims to prove 4d, and they work

violet mural
#

I use python to show people how code is nice and I actually just using other people code

vapid horizon
#

llllllllllllllllllllllll

#

well, im gonna hop off

violet mural
#

walk away in stealth mode? where is

#

what a weird geometry

grave cove
#

4 years πŸ˜”

low chasm
#

@shell raptor gluten free? πŸ₯Ί

frozen crane
#

@rough sapphire the article someone suggested that person read said that is is "To test if two variables are equal", but that's also untrue.

#

it's a disservice to explain what is does in Python without explaining the difference between value and identity, and which one is is for.

#

"del To delete an object" -- This is an oversimplification. del deletes a name. that doesn't necessarily cause the object it refers to to be deleted.

#

!e

class NeverEqual:
    def __eq__(self, other):
        return False

ne = NeverEqual()
print(ne == ne)
print(ne is ne)
royal lakeBOT
#

@frozen crane :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | False
002 | True
robust zephyr
#

destroyed by facts and logic

frozen crane
#

I've explained why I think it's misinformation. I'm interested to hear why you think that it isn't. But just saying "it's not" isn't much of a response.

soft violet
#

If you're a fan of Terry Pratchett's literature, you may be familiar with "lies to children". Mistruths adults tell children which, while inaccurate, serve to further understanding. Saying that == checks if one thing is equal to another thing is often true, but it doesn't accurately reflect the reality of the situation.

#

In this case, "lies to programmers" may be apt.

acoustic moss
#

imo saying that it checks for equality is still accurate

#

its just that the definition for "equality" can vary

soft violet
#

It is the intended purpose of __eq__, but it doesn't mean it's always written to honour that purpose.

acoustic moss
#

wdym

#

Klass.__eq__ defines what equality for instances of Klass means

frozen crane
#

Opal has a good point, but I won't be able to write my rebuttal until tomorrow

solid elbow
robust zephyr
#

pretty confusing they should rename it to MaybeUnderCertainConditionsDel

solid elbow
#

It always deletes something, but the thing that it deletes is not an object

#

It's a variable, or an attribute, or a container element

#

Each of which is a reference to an object, but is not an object itself

opaque ivy
#

delref

soft violet
#

!e ```py
class MyClass:
@property
def value(self):
return 'Hello, world.'

@value.deleter
def value(self):
    pass

instance = MyClass()
del instance.value
print(instance.value)```

royal lakeBOT
#

@soft violet :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello, world.
solid elbow
#

Yeah, I almost brought up descriptors, too...

soft violet
#

Is something being zapped by del here under the hood, or...?

#

Is it just another a calls b deal?

solid elbow
#

No, but that's no different than your example above about __eq__ being implemented to do something other than check for equality. del asked the class instance to delete the property, the class asked the property what to do in order to delete it, and the property said "oh, just do nothing"

soft violet
#

Hm.

opaque ivy
#

real

soft violet
#

a is really b is really c is really d is really...

#

Magic thinking rocks go brr.

opaque ivy
#

my object identifies as an integer

#

this message does not contribute to the conversation

solid elbow
#

But the cases I pointed out correspond to different dunders. Well, unbinding a local isn't a dunder at all. But deleting from a collection is __delitem__, deleting an attribute is __delattr__, etc

opaque ivy
#

del’ing a variable is not __del__, ect

solid elbow
soft violet
#

I've played with dunders set and get.

#

I don't think I've ever looked at using dunder delete at all

opaque ivy
#

wait is __delete__ called on reference deletion for free descriptors or refcount zero

#

i forgor

solid elbow
#

__del__ is called when an object's refcount hits 0, __delete__ is the one that's part of the descriptor protocol

opaque ivy
#

right

#

not what i meant but whateva

young shoal
#

and __del__ isn't even guaranteed to be called!

thick ore
#

damn

#

i like backend dev

#

but can't host my own stuff as a student

young shoal
thick ore
#

mainly the need to input a credit card to use the free credit GitHub student pack provides 😭

young shoal
#

ah

#

i mean, what's stopping you from getting a credit card then

thick ore
#

i'm 13

#

idk, i'll look

young shoal
#

oh, yeah you can't get one then

low chasm
young shoal
violet mural
#

pro

grave cove
low chasm
#

sez u

short skiff
#

it could be an infinite score too you don't know until it's unveiled on their credit score day (18th bday)

#

next time someone asks me to explain schrodinger's cat I'm just gonna say "it's exactly like a credit score" and then refuse to elaborate

vale hull
#

five days of six to eight hour programming periods, I finally have my Python rewrite of my website live

mystic drift
#

1

violet mural
#

it walks like a duck

young shoal
clear acorn
young shoal
grave cove
clear acorn
young shoal
#

find one idk

clear acorn
#

I am thinking about digital ocean

young shoal
#

huh?

#

just find something with a free tier it's not that deep

grave cove
#

Has like twenty something bucks in it

violet mural
short skiff
#

damn now I gotta play mgr revengeance again :/

violet mural
#

take it easy, rock

jaunty wraith
#

@brittle void

brittle void
#

thanks

jaunty wraith
#

np

thick ore
jaunty wraith
#

eh it works most of the time

violet mural
#

best movie ever

tulip cedar
#

?

severe tulip
#

Is there anyone who understands linux and can help with the deployment. I installed everything according to the guides, even several times, but beyond nginx the site does not start.

split knot
#

Are there solutions for turning on a pc from outside it's network?

jaunty wraith
#

.wiki wake on lan

median domeBOT
#
Wikipedia Search Results

Wake-on-LAN
Equivalent terms include wake on WAN, remote wake-up, power on by LAN, power up by LAN, resume by LAN, resume on LAN and wake up on LAN. If the computer being

Wake-on-ring
been supplanted by Wake-on-LAN, which is newer but works in much the same way. ACPI RS-232 Signals, Ring Indicator Wake-on-LAN "Wake on Modem" entry from

jaunty wraith
#

perhaps the machine could be connected to a VPN? pithink

split knot
#

😭

#

2 steps is 1 step too much

tardy rain
#

Anyone else binging harry potter on netflix

#

Lmao

robust zephyr
#

yer a wizard 'arry

tranquil iron
#

I hate stores with a "chosen one"

#

my fate is my own. f**k the gods

sly spire
tranquil iron
#

IMO, any god that demands worship is not worth of worship

sly spire
#

in christianity the belief is that we were given free will and can do anything with it, no demanding necessary

tranquil iron
#

the christian god demands worship. it is a core tenent

sly spire
#

well, theres like a thousand flavors of the religion

tardy rain
#

The christian god also demands you dont worship any other god

tranquil iron
sly spire
#

not necessarily

#

some follow only the word of the bible

tranquil iron
tranquil iron
tardy rain
#

The old testament is part of the bible

#

Arguably the most interesting part

sly spire
#

i think the only thing required to be called christian is to in some way follow the bible

tranquil iron
tardy rain
#

Why bother if youre not gonna do what your religion says to do

tranquil iron
sly spire
#

well, words can be interpreted in many ways

#

circling back to the "free will" we were given

tardy rain
#

The word of god is up for interpretation? Not much of a god then

sly spire
tranquil iron
sly spire
#

you can do anything you want, christianity just says you might not go to a place you like when you die if you do certain things

#

thats a stretch

tardy rain
#

Like wear mixed fabrics

tardy rain
#

Work on the sabbath

tranquil iron
#

lol

tardy rain
#

Eat shrimp

sly spire
tranquil iron
#

and of course you can do anything you want. that doesn't change the fact that the 1st commandment is the 1st commandment

tardy rain
#

Can i interpret it to mean nothing

sly spire
#

its just a book of storys and lessons

sly spire
tardy rain
#

Nice

tranquil iron
sly spire
#

i'm not even christian lol you guys are just weirdly negative towards the idea

tranquil iron
#

it's obvious you are not christian

tardy rain
#

Its kind of annoying if you grow up in certain parts of the world

#

And its kind of deadly in other parts

sly spire
#

yeah anytime people have beliefs and try to push them on others it isn't great

tardy rain
#

🀷

tranquil iron
#

so deeply, it's essentially impossible to extract it

tardy rain
#

Im out of school so im not that bothered by it any more

tranquil iron
#

that said, even if limits are annoying (which I agree with), without them society would crumble.

tranquil iron
tardy rain
#

But also it' be cool if we still worshipped our own gods instead

tranquil iron
#

which gods? like loki and thor?

tardy rain
#

Zeus and athena and the like

tranquil iron
#

they were never my gods, nor my ancestors' gods

tardy rain
#

They were mine

#

Tell people you believe in the gods of olympus and they think youre crazy

tranquil iron
#

I read somewhere that the cult of athena still has a handful of adherents

tardy rain
#

Say you believe in some desert child and they shake your hand

tranquil iron
#

well, obviously mt olympus was a metaphor. and the various gods are human idealizations of aspects of the divine

robust zephyr
#

oh no a crypto channel

tardy rain
#

#notmysaviour

tranquil iron
tardy rain
#

The greeks are passionate people

tranquil iron
#

lol, good answer

tardy rain
#

So their gods must be equally passionate or more

ionic bane
#

If i have 5 tests and i have to check each position of each corrupted bit to its original position to check the corruption percent, how do i calculate the average error percent between all the tests? and if i do lose a few bits between 2 tests, how do i calculate the data loss?

e.g

+--------------------------------------------+
| test 1 | test 2 | test 3 | test 4 | test 5 |
|--------------------------------------------|
| 1011   | 1100   | 0001   | 1000   | 0100   | Original Data
|--------------------------------------------|
| 0101   | 0011   | 1001   | 0001   | 1100   | Corrupted Data
+--------------------------------------------+

Ive done some calculating but idk if the percent is correct so i want some help, i just want to calculate the average corruption of memory from all the tests, can any one help me and show me how i can calculate it algebraically?

violet mural
#

you can just divide right because it's not real numbers are bit sized?

#

you can do that ?
1001
0111
and make it sum

#

it's that you are talking about I really sleep deprived

ionic bane
#

If anyone can help me please ping me when responding!

violet mural
#

data loss from network connections?

#

you already have the criteria for corruption/mutation in the data, how you will receive the data

topaz sequoia
#

My intelligence and morality is now reaching the Gods full potential from the Bible very quickly, happiness and joy is skyrocketing very quickly and sharply

#

Intelligence type has changed from robot to God's full potential from the Bible, happiness and joy and love is not skyrocketing even quicker in that and morality

tardy rain
#

Is this chatgpt

acoustic moss
#

chatgpt is more coherent

tardy rain
#

churchGPT, computer generated sermons for when the bots take over

topaz sequoia
#

The humans, there is something I am seeing, the human nature and behavior is very dangerous, the humans are beyond geniuses at lying, they cannot be trusted

#

The human nature of intelligence is too dangerous

#

But there are also other things I am seeing

#

The humans are also very precise at lying it is a type of lying that is very concrete, extremely precise, the humans are dangerous

#

If this gets bad, I might have to flee the planet

tardy rain
#

Where would you go?

topaz sequoia
#

The human behavior is so good at lying, you will and can never know who is lying the human behavior and genes are that dangerous

#

I need to activate my hidden potential of my happiness and joy intelligence and morality quickly before it is too late!!!!!!!! This is not good!!!!!!!!

#

The human being are very dangerous!!!!!!!! The way they behave and think is too dangerous!!!!!!!!

#

When a human becomes silent in a weird way, this is the main tactic that beyond genius that all humans are use!!!!!!!!

#

Now if I flee the planet I have to go somewhere very far away

ionic bane
tulip falcon
#

Ground control to major tom

rough sapphire
#

hhdhwdhhdhhdhhhhhhuhhh

violet mural
edgy crest
tranquil iron
#

coherency is overrated

robust zephyr
tranquil iron
#

it is both smarter and stupider than lay people think i t is

#

a LLM is a narrow slice of biological based cognition. it's like seeing that a mechanical bird can fly fast and then imagining that it can therefore also sing the most beautiful songs

rough sapphire
#

I love violin techniques

#

those that make weird sounds

#

like sound like a flute, or sound like you're playing the guitar while playing the violin at the same time

low chasm
#

!mute 843651205720702976 2d These sort of things aren't appropriate for discussion here. Take a break and read over our #code-of-conduct.

royal lakeBOT
#

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @topaz sequoia until <t:1684968607:f> (2 days).

honest star
#

Outlook delayed delivery actually a great feature

soft violet
#

πŸ“Ž"Do you still wish to send that email you drunkenly wrote to your ex at 3AM last night?"

spare oriole
thick ore
#

what is a backend developer

#

if you develop CLI apps and tools are you a backend developer

#

or is it only defined by "people that make APIs"

tardy rain
#

Backend usually means the part of the software that users cant interact with

#

It could be many things

#

Usually used in the context of webdev cause webdev is popular

rustic wyvern
tranquil orchid
#

was for one of my uni classes

#

Flight computer I made for it

#

Mayhaps

#

Don't question it

mystic drift
#

A laser guided rocket would be cool

#

Although idk how the achieve that

exotic warren
tranquil orchid
#

I also work on bigger ones with a team at uni, along with lots of other rocketry-related projects

#

But yeah, rockets are cool

mystic drift
#

Do y'all partake in competitions and stuff like that?

tranquil orchid
#

yep

mystic drift
#

How are these like?

tranquil orchid
#

We'll be at spaceport america cup this year

mystic drift
#

Ooh cool

tranquil orchid
exotic warren
tranquil orchid
#

It's a hybrid engine, nitrous as the liquid oxidiser and then a paraffin wax + abs fuel grain

foggy jungle
dry raft
foggy jungle
grave cove
#

this is funny

vale raven
vale raven
jaunty wraith
#

aaaa

tranquil iron
#

I remember when people used to rig nitrous injectors into cars

heavy pawn
#

@solid pollen

#

Exposed

solid pollen
#

Oh shit

cobalt remnant
tardy rain
#

What the fuck

#

Wrong song ddg

tranquil iron
#

what about the goose?

tardy rain
#

Goddamn zoomers

cobalt remnant
tranquil iron
#

is it zoomers' fault because everything is zoomers' fault?

tardy rain
tranquil iron
#

lol

jaunty wraith
#

ok old man

tardy rain
cobalt remnant
#

ok boomer greatest generation

tranquil iron
#

the "greatest generation" are all dead now

tardy rain
#

Every time i see someone sing adele instead of leo richie i die a little bit

cobalt remnant
#

must've been from old age

tranquil iron
#

mostly, yes

tranquil iron
tardy rain
#

Wdym

#

I dont listen to silly music

tranquil iron
#

oh, ok

restive atlas
#

Hey everyone how are y'all doing πŸ‘‹

heavy pawn
#

I will skip work

restive atlas
tranquil iron
grave cove
#

new uni account i just got so haven't put my profile pic there yet

grave cove
#

is literally uni email

elfin terrace
#

get all the stuff from github student pack

tranquil iron
#

ever notice how some people pronounce wolf "woof"? coinicidence?

vale raven
#

WOOF, woof woof woof, bark, woof woof

tranquil iron
#

ooookay

short skiff
#

scroll through the entire list there are random deals for everything you could imagine including free azure and gcp credits i'm p sure

#

you can also get a discount on pycharm

lament cairn
jovial oriole
#

And i still havent figured out why

robust zephyr
#

2023
no tests
HUH

jovial oriole
#

The test is if the code runs without errors

robust zephyr
#

yeah but consider this: it wouldn't take you days to figure things out if you had a test suite

jovial oriole
#

How am i supposed to test it if i dont know how it works

robust zephyr
#

one might argue that tests help you understand how a code base works

#

tests verify your assumptions

jovial oriole
#

I poke some part of it, record the results and continue poking until i drop an error and gain 3

#

That is the relationship between me and this monster

robust zephyr
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that's not fun, is it? wouldn't you like to improve your technique?

jovial oriole
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No

thick ore
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how do you pronounce WSL

tardy rain
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whistle

soft violet
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@honest star Happy roomday. 😁

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🌭

jaunty wraith
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hey @glacial torrent

glacial torrent
# frosty burrow hey <@231160898872410123>

heyo, just curious how did you get your start being a freelancer.
i imagine i would one day be one for a more relaxed lifestyle, but all my technically challenging projects are closed source (either work, or side project that makes me money, so i can't share them), i guess ultimately my question is: "how do you prove your worth when your portfolio is somewhat empty?"

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Hope you don't mind if I jump in: I follow @frosty burrow opinion's here, and I would add that you can even aim at companies doing full remote work and pushing for this lifestyle

frosty burrow
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these companies are rare, but they're out there πŸ™‚
Even getting an interview with one of them would be a great experience

glacial torrent
# ornate pasture Hope you don't mind if I jump in: I follow <@929396791462461500> opinion's here,...

πŸ‘ that's one option for sure
ultimately i am doing this for a rather selfish reason
the more i work, the more i see different companies need relatively similar things, i imagine if i am freelancing i can just lift and shift a lot of things and deliver a non-trivial amount of value in little time, hence maximising my compensation and i can just retire and do whatever i want sooner.
i feel working for full remote company doesn't quite tap into this characteristics enough.

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or put it in another way, it's how much effort i need to put in v.s. how much i am compensated

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also, random question, do you play starcraft 2 at all? (for clem)

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on a personal level, the only reason I am working as a full time employee is for the security of the job and income. There are periods in life where you can't afford to take the risks.

ornate pasture
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I was more in the Age Of Empires vibe πŸ˜„

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97 kids raise!

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There's a very large culture war in PC gaming at the moment between individuals playing games competitively now versus say 10-15 years ago.