#ot1-perplexing-regexing
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because it's clearly an infinite while
["π£"*(2**32)for _ in __import__("itertools").repeat(None)]
this works much faster than my prev
!e
[0for(_)in iter(int,1)]
@crystal spruce :x: Your 3.11 eval job timed out or ran out of memory.
001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: invalid decimal literal
002 | [0for(_)in iter(int,1)]
that works but is super slow unfortunately to fill up all the memory
I think the only way to do it efficiently is with a relatively heavy datastructure like a string
ooh maybe you could make a custom object and then a list of those
even 1-length strings don't blow up that fast unfortunately
mine combined w urs is better than both I think: ```python
["π£"*(2**32)for(_)in iter(int,1)]
@crystal spruce :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 | exec('a=zip(a);'*(2<<32))
004 | ~~~~~~~~~~~^^~~~~~~
005 | MemoryError
Thoughts? https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM2dLc2eC/
I hope at least one of these are extended markdown
3rd is going to be amiibo integration, 4th introducing paid microtransactions, 6th, profit???
No, it didn't crash, the string becomes soo big that it is using 10gb of ram
yeah I know...the purpose was to make a memory bomb that first question was unrelated
All going to be all nitro-only features
And it have to process that string every .replace
You can make fork bombs
oh i was confused nvm
I thought u were talking about my script not urs
yeah! i kinda wanna try that next
the one I posted tho does fill up ur entire memory
Fork bombs eat up memory by duplicating processes, once I was running fork bomb for fun and I ran it on my Android, the memory went to see hell
did u see the screenshot I posted earlier
I got up to like 35gb of ram
before my OS told me to start quitting processes
No
My android wasn't even able to do that
I did it on termux
Ran bash fork bomb
try running this:
["π£"*(2**32)for(_)in range(10)]
It was filling memory too fast that it wasn't able to handle it and kill process
haha
!rule 5 you can't post that code here
5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.
Some beginners gonna run that so don't
it isn't really malicious when we're talking about memory bombs
Well it is
then how is it even possible to discuss that?
obviously if I was misleading people then yeah
but malicious doesn't just mean does something bad, it means it was intended to be bad
otherwise it would be called negligent
We are discussing about them in ot, not discussing how to make one
And lets switch topic
.topic
Water
I don't really think you need to be that paranoid, there's an entire channel devoted to esoteric python which inherently includes stuff like this
Also that rule says "do not provide or request help" not "do not discuss"
Yeah but topics there are still safe not eating memory
Well yes
I'm confused how that relates
There are many topics there
I even promoted a contest in that channel that I'm running for esoteric python
memory bombs are like classic IOCCC territory
How does it work?
It just creates a ton of really big strings in a list
I removed the part that makes it infinite tho
Eating memory also isn't really unsafe
we aren't running these things on bare metal
it's in an interpreter
Though I dont think that it gonna work
wydm it clearly does I posted a screenshot
It does crash termux
Where?
I posted it earlier in the conversation you replied to...
I just did this now tho
It ran up until 80gb then was force quit by the OS
but it does work
I ran without for loop and my android killed termux before
well yeah if you're running it on android you're running it in a vm in a vm
so the memory limits will be much diff
vm no?
Oh yeah jvm
yeah so obviously that's gonna be garbage collecting and shit
probs will die much faster
I wouldn't do that tbh because you might lose control of the host process
like if the server you're sshing to gets all its memory taken it might kill ur sshd process
Hard reboot will always be there
true I was just saying for anyone that might try it on an machine that they can't physically reboot
They can? Hold power button for 10 sec
Except people running really ancient pc not supporting acpi
how can you do that if the server is in the cloud....
that's what I meant by physically reboot
you have to hold an actual button that exists in real life on the server
That's one of the reasons why cloud servers are virtualized
If its in cloud the host will shutdown vps automatically
after consuming a ton of resources though
if the cloud server is a VM (which it most likely is), the VPS provider probably has a console with a "Reboot" button
yeah but if you just paste this in to your ssh session
And if no, you should have sysadmin to do that
it takes up memory super fast
by console, I mean a web console a la AWS
yeah no I'm just saying you would have to react within two seconds to make sure it doesn't take up 60gb+
I mostly prefer ssh
they're two different things
I know
yeah, I'm talking when ssh is ded
yeah
you wouldn't be able to ssh into the server
so you'd have to login to Azure or whatever and click the reboot button
And what if its not a vps but bare metal?
then that wouldn't be in the cloud
contact the hosting provider
and that would be a diff conversation
yeah you'd have to contact the sysadmin or whatever
Remote host
if it's a remote host you still can't physically press buttons on it
that's what I'm saying
unless the server is physically in the same exact area you are in, you cannot recover if the ssh goes out, unless you have a console provided by the VPS
you cant but you can contact sysadmin
yes but as I just said
it takes 2 seconds
to fill up 60gb
so you call the sysadmin, and by then you have multiple terabytes of ram and everythings failing
that is why I said what I said like 20 messages ago
Also if its a remote host, it should have memory management for security
ok well this was explicitly in the case where it doesn't
also even if it does have memory management, often that means kicking off older processes
not just killing new ones
and then we're back to no ssh and you gotta either push a button, or use the power of electricity to tell some other person to push a button
but anyways I was literally just saying that
bc u were telling me that I should be aware of noobs copy pasting my code
if I had it my way I could have just pasted the snippet and we could have talked about it lol
The easiest way is, to go to power station and cut off line
Actually easier way to is to steal the catalytic converter from the head technician of the power station repeatedly over multiple months until the power station eventually fails
it's kinda cool how power stations have so much electricity they don't even need much security because you will die if you touch them
A better way is to just throw a metal rod at hyper tension line towers so that it may short out
I prefer just praying for a gamma ray burst that can take out the entire power grid
Thats too much work
No electricity == 100% bug free code
This is easiest
Though you also just shortout local transformer
Even easier
Or you can steal coolant from nuclear power plant
do nuclear power plants have coolant? i thought that was just the water
that turns into steam
By coolant, I am referring to liquid that cool it down
Yeah its only water forgot that
yeah that makes sense
Though you can steal water from hydro power plants(dams)
I wonder if the difference is that coolant is recycled through like a radiator
whereas the water is generally released as steam
A coolant is a substance, typically liquid, that is used to reduce or regulate the temperature of a system. An ideal coolant has high thermal capacity, low viscosity, is low-cost, non-toxic, chemically inert and neither causes nor promotes corrosion of the cooling system. Some applications also require the coolant to be an electrical insulator.
Ok water wouldn't count
yeah water has pretty low thermal capacity
it boils at like 120F
or something like that
100Β°C
I imagine it's super hard to design a coolant system where it's boiling the entire time
And 100C is 212F
poo pee
based?
Thanks man
yw bud
i like pizza
is that running both vscode and the window in wsl?
vscode is in windows, it's just connected to a wsl system
but the raylib window is in WSL
that's still pretty cool
Yellow snow, the best snow
I don't have they pay enough to employees bankers
they detect metal not nano computers or even a usb drive
I mean it's a national bank they don't pay enough to employees accept external payments
what
not acess to memory ram
what
how the screen with protection is called
β¦protected screen?
... metal scanners?
it hard to pass with a pen drive throught it?
Are you asking how to... smuggle things into a bank?
how to use a south america country to make massive load payments to China

what are "massive load payments"?
sexy things
what
what
what?
what
what
what
Queen Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, Breaker of Chains
what
what
what
she's definitely in the no-go zone of the the hot-crazy matrix
what
what
is there a way that I can protect a github branch and only allow github actions to push to it and no one else?
For those who have been on Discord for over maybe 5 years, what happens to all these discussions?
yoo you also know about the hot crazy matrix
Wdym?
how do i annoy vardrid fans?
@foggy jungle sorry for ping, mind reading a DM I sent (if they are open)
My DM's generally aren't open (They seem to be filled with a staggering amount of racial slurs directed my way at any given time, what a world we live in.) However, our project/community currently isn't really open. I'll keep your interest in mind in the future β€οΈ
denied π
π
KP's DMs are exclusive, the stuff of legends
They're mostly very angry malware authors.
aww
I gotchu
you don't have to say that in every off topic channel
k
they just randomly DM you?
Lol based
Iβm in quite a few infosec communities and lack the self control to pass up an entertaining call out.
Which inevitably leads to βoh my friend wants to talk to youβ, a temper tantrum or two, and then they go away. π€·π»ββοΈ
The malware creators friend wants to talk to you?
Idk they always seem to have some other friend that βknows how to hackβ or that they βgot the files fromβ.
Wtf my laundry smells weird
Clean it then
It was cleaned I guess. Maybe it sat wet in the washer for a while
Gotta put on some music to get hyped up
This is an appropriate name for OT channel - up at 2am gang
Waking up at 2am that is
Wow I feel smarter for trying to read that
We live in a world where lowering the number of children is probably better for everyone on the planet so yeah that shit is moronic and i hope you get banned for posting it
Did you even read the link
There are at least three problems with your message, holy cow
Why are we reducing babies and not oldies, midsommar style
lowering the number of children is probably better for everyone on the planet
africa
that shit is moronic
in other words: "i didn't like one of the things in that research so it all must be ass"
i hope you get banned for posting it
no
keep it civil peeps
Isnt africa one of those places where people have tons of kids regardless of resources to feed them?
eh actually true let's talk about the countries that are actually dying
you mean like japan and large parts of europe?
A good thing is that as I was watching it, it was brought up here
Sources and further reading:
https://sites.google.com/view/sourcesoverpopulationandafrica
For most of our history, the human population grew slowly. Until new discoveries brought us more food and made us live longer. In just a hundred years the human population quadrupled.
This led to apocalyptic visions of an overcrowded earth. But the popul...
Japan needs help lol yea
Government mandated girlfriends and boyfriends
I think i've read this one before
yeah i think
Ah, I see. Thx for letting me know π
The problem is that "overpopulation good or bad" wasn't even mentioned in the article
It even mentioned that contraception made it so more sexual partners in life resulted in fewer children, not more
So why in the hell did Div even express disagreement
it talks about how SSB-associated alleles results in lowering the amount of children
but literally nothing about "good or not?" in there
I think that's one part of it too
Just everything about this makes it all the more questionable that that was Div's response
Maybe they're just having a bad day
That's to be expected
The higher the education, the less chances of having multiple children
It's inversely proportional
@honest oracle @rough sapphire continuing from pygen about the discord anniversary comic...
Ohno, that's Merryweather's comic... His comics are hit or miss imo - some are too much, seem forced, while others are really fun
Lol
Omg, ep 1 is kinda... Weird but Wumpus' reaction is gold.
Btw, when there are reading events, sometimes you get to read stuff you have already read previously... Fast scrolling it is then
I wanna die
that's unhealthy
Help
ow
@young shoal I feel like "is it even worth it to go on", or is what I'm doing contrived even
I feel like getting drunk and like noone hears me or cares
not appropriate for here please do not continue this track of conversation
the fact that you have to cripple yourself with debt for the next 15 years of your life is just so absurd to me
@mystic drift fwiw, that's not really a given ~ the situation isn't ideal, though, I'll agree
right, people do have loans, but they aren't always crippling
How come you haven't revolted yet
most people take college loans one way or another
overthrown the government and shit
the system has it's flaws but it isn't terrible
and there's financial aid as well
at least to me, as someone just going through all of that
your healthcare system is just so predatory that people prefer to die on the street rather than taking an ambulance
everything is made for max profit
healthcare would be a different topic, though

it works the same
banks thrive off predatory rates by poor students that don't have a choice but to take those loans to have a slight chance of succeeding on the corporate meatgrinder
and do... what?
FWIW most students in my area are taking out loans (and it's a pretty affluent area)
you know, arrest the dudes that are literally holding your national in a chokehold?
like, france style revolt
FAFSA and all that yeah
there are private loans too but they usually have stricter repayment terms
and, like, it's not necessarily a slight chance of succeeding either
a college degree is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself career-wise
I won't speak for americans on this matter since I don't really know how it's for y'all there
but
like, going into CS, I'm fairly confident that while I will have to take out loans, they aren't going to ruin my life, and I'll likely be able to manage them.
but yeah, I suppose there are worse cases
entry level jobs are raising their expectations so much that bachelors don't even fit the bill anymore
and replace them with who?
i didn't qualify for fafsa π₯΄
doesn't like everyone qualify for fasfa π₯΄
and funnily enough, the pay isn't keeping up with those expectations
idk I don't really keep up with american politics
But surely there are better options?
jesus christ what has became of the world where corporate can just crush us like that
didn't get a penny
i'm not a citizen might have something to do with that
hopefully it gets better somewhat in the future
got TAFSA tho
society
π
nah
oh maybe
pov: you code your own social media app and give yourself 1B followers
(there is a small chance I actually did that with Mindstream)
make the app look like another one and you can use it to defraud people
"hey can I get a free meal, I have 300 trillion followers"
Does anyone here know how i can add a extension to the chromewebdriver using selenium in c#
did the channels get emojis in the titles just now
I'm not seeing any in mobile
im on the web client
Not seeing it on desktop application but I haven't restarted either.
I like it. 
Odd
its not pydis?
Were those set by the admin team or did they auto populate? 
It's nothing we've done fwiw, must be a discord thing
discord guessing at channel names lmao
hm, lets see if the ot emojis change with the daily name change soon
ridiculous
wth
Someone else posted a picture in another Discord of it too.
Interesting
I don't see them
I think it's cool. 
Lemme try killing Discord.
kekw
maybe its bc im on canary?
oh god no, please not additional visual clutter
r u on canary
That's cool
please turn it off π
Me gusta
Nada on desktop app.
how do i check
No keep it on
Just restarted.
and tell me how to see them too
wtf is this
Not on ios app
someone tell me π
oh damn it's gone
I don't think it's anything we can do/have done tbh
u would know if ur using canary. u have to look up beta versions of discord
Some clients have emojis in channel names fsr
ridic
whaaat
I see emojis
this is news to me
It's not just PyDis FWIW
Could be worse lol
I blame #esoteric-python for this
i got nothing after a restart

discord pls. $10 they used AI of some sort to pick the emojis automatically
lmao
Accidental roll out by discord from what DAC is saying
Discord 'try not to screw up a new feature' challenge
β¨
Hello we have markdown though.
where egg offtopic
ur right its all gone now
π«
that sort of violence is frowned upon
why does ur discord look like that
how to enable it in desktop app?
new UI
tell
I did nothing, it just appeared
is it being rolled out randomly?
its an easter egg
β¨
click on this emoji
Oh it is, but def not worth using the new ui lol, it sucks
but easter is long over
hard to explain
Wdym

Are you on mobile?
I am on desktop
When you tap it it pops up in the bottom, hold that
If you pester a sever boost icon enough you get more confetti.
should load you into the new UI
it worked. Is this permanent?
To leave it (as you will want to) repeat the steps
it's like when you change the language on an app and you have to fumble around trying to set it back haha
isn't that old
fix it
actual boomer
Yall ready for discord usernames?
I think my account is fairly old-- I should be able to get something decent if it's time gated relatively well
just trademark your name and steal it if necessary
Oh right I'm Kernel Panic here. I was gonna' say, trademarking 'Rem' might be tough.
If your rename pops up poke me, I'm an airhead and liable to miss it.
smh psvm breaking TOS
Bannable imo
no actually
At-Moderators!
at least i think so
Inb4 xxXXSkyglowXXxx or Skyglow8976468
i would turn 13 a few months after getting the account
Where 8675309?
just put your discriminator into the name lmao
It is
skyglow5199
skyglowdbwizard
Im hoping for at least 1x 69 in mine
Really time to prep the old resume. 
Already? Didn't you just move for the job?
wat, no. I've been here for 1.7 years now.
You were hunting for an apartment... am I high?
let's see it π
I was hunting for apartments because the house was getting renovated.
oh
Hence the short term (6month lease) and shitty place I found.
I picked up some chatgpt skills from fixing the former coworker's resume
oh the person with the sad resume?
an ape could have improved that ngl
they would like, rip the second page off and it'd be better
Phd in sucking at CVs
Next stop is buying a house, no more renting crap. At least at a min I can a always rent the house out. 2k a month can easily be a mortgage. 
phd in sucking
Dr. Suck, if you will.
My next iteration will be an MS sticky note bullet point list i just share with people
Ayy
psvm
Permanently Head Damaged
apparently i didn't save enough in my chipotle 401k for them to let me keep it with them

they're kicking me out π
what? wtf? how does that even work
well like, not really. i can like, do a rollover
am i allowed to have both a roth and traditional ira π€
yes
and is that even a good idea
interesting
You are never going to be more poor in your life than you are right now.
apparently my internship also has a 401k π€ maybe i'll just roll it into that π€
You can have both a traditional 401k & Roth IRA though. (What I have)
yeah that's what i have
Roth is fantastic for entry level employees, college students etc.
that's me π₯Ί
You do not want to pay taxes later in life.
Is this a challenge? New TicTock trend Meth Challenge β’οΈ
Well, there's way to dodge taxes
legally dodge taxes
dying
Flee the country
you'll get extradited
unless you're in russia or something
i can roll it into a roth ira, but then i have to pay taxes on that D:
though it's only like 500 dollars lol so it's kinda fine
Taxes now are pretty much the min. And you won't pay taxes on the earnings (90% sure but don't quote me on this)
yeah for a Roth IRA you don't I think
oh and apparently, I'm not eligible for my internship company's 401k thing lol. cause I'm not 21
Congratulations @grave cove for successfully surviving graduating high school. We're proud of you! β€οΈ
who?
Rude π¦
same account?
I only have one account. Both on firefox web version
lmao, now it's gone once I did a refresh on the laptop
i saw it earlier and then my discord restarted by itself and now it is gone
the stealth technology it's like emission of fake signals?
no, more like the blocking of signals
no it's not
thats kinda more of the Lockheed Martin SR-71 Blackbird's job
its gray
dynamic stealth
stealth tech either absorbs radar signals or reflects them in a direction away from the sender (so they can't be detected). emitting fake signals is "jamming".
i dont think it has dynamic stealth
like missiles that emulates being other things
f-35 does both
nope
the SR-71 is over a half century old, it has zero stealth tech in it
its the fastest plane tho
yes, radar jamming has been used for a long long time
in a strait line only π
actually, its the number 1 stealth plane for a reason
There's actually a phenomenon where older aircraft/AA technologies are actually harder to detect because they operate on different RF spectrums/different signals/etc.
This was a major problem in Vietnam IIRC.
true
the SR-71? it uses zero stealth tech
its the best spy plane
the sr-71 is not even a stealth plane
I guess one could make an argument for that
The Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" is a long-range, high-altitude, Mach 3+ strategic reconnaissance aircraft developed and manufactured by the American aerospace company Lockheed Corporation. It was operated by the United States Air Force and NASA.
yes, "strategic reconnaissance aircraft" is just another way of saying "spy plane"
I'm waiting for the Lockheed Martin SR-72 Darkstar
are you gonna try to fly it?
prob
cool frioles
wdym
how the soviets were capable of moving so much stuff to Cuba without being noticed
they used cargo ships
which is how you usually move a lots of stuff from place to place
they just changed the name of the ships? like non-military soviet
why would they need to change the name of the ships?
I see it in a movie
this may be news to you but cuba is an independent nation and the oceans are not under the control of the USA
sadly
lol
but they have at least something vigilant
they kinda are tho
the US was vigilant. that's how we knew there were nukes in cuba. which, btw, was a response to the US placing nukes in turkey, right next to the USSR
putting nukes close to opponent countries is childish
the US wasn't yet used to other nations having nukes
this was in 1960-1962, our missiles wouldn't have reached strategic targets from alaska
but we did have bombers with nukes in alaska
moving nukes in submarines
submarines are nuclear powered
not always
us subs are
and some have nuclear nukes and it's only purpose it's a nuke situation
not always
most of the times
this is 1961, only 4 years after sputnik, before the first US launch of Mercury
they first tried to launch a berry
the vast majority of US nuclear forces were strategic bombers
im waiting for the b-22 bomber
eddie murphy is a secret weapon
no, rick astley
you can't spam anywhere.
ik, i was just joking around
the close to him call him crazy frog
rick astley is called
"Never gonna give you up"
"Never gonna let you down"
"Never gonna run around and desert you"
"Never gonna make you cry"
"Never gonna say goodbye"
and never gonna be Eddie Murphy
dude, eddie murphy has a song with snoop
have u ever heard of alan walker
alan the walk a lot? was my colleague
no, this guy: https://www.youtube.com/user/DjWalkzz
the faded
he looks shady.
slim shady?
jk
are you shady?
yes
a imitation
will you stand up?
yes, but to whom
you can kick 20 rhymes in just one minute?
would you say you are relatively thin?
compared to whom
average
kinda
would you please stand up?
wait a second, isnt public static void a java reference
i already did
8 in a test is good?
a long time ago
depends on the context
no
8% or 8/10
if you gotta ask if your test score is good, it's not good
or 8/9 or 8/8
8 but it's a letter
its the highest score you can get: βΎοΈ aka 8
just remember that time is a cube
and that we are living in a 4d world
yes, or more d's who knows
its mathematiclly proven as 4ds
the shadow knows
like the sum of all natural numbers are - 1/12? I don't buy it
check the theory if you want
I don't remember the name of the book I read it
Einstein 's theory of relativity is formulated in 4D space, although not in a Euclidean 4D space. Einstein's concept of spacetime has a Minkowski structure based on a non-Euclidean geometry with three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension, rather than the four symmetric spatial dimensions of SchlΓ€fli's Euclidean 4D space.
it's probably on megaupload
no, Ive used python to actually crunch the numbers in the equation, and ive run sims to prove 4d, and they work
I use python to show people how code is nice and I actually just using other people code
Thanks big dawg
4 years π
@shell raptor gluten free? π₯Ί
@rough sapphire the article someone suggested that person read said that is is "To test if two variables are equal", but that's also untrue.
it's a disservice to explain what is does in Python without explaining the difference between value and identity, and which one is is for.
"del To delete an object" -- This is an oversimplification. del deletes a name. that doesn't necessarily cause the object it refers to to be deleted.
!e
class NeverEqual:
def __eq__(self, other):
return False
ne = NeverEqual()
print(ne == ne)
print(ne is ne)
@frozen crane :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | False
002 | True
destroyed by facts and logic
I've explained why I think it's misinformation. I'm interested to hear why you think that it isn't. But just saying "it's not" isn't much of a response.
If you're a fan of Terry Pratchett's literature, you may be familiar with "lies to children". Mistruths adults tell children which, while inaccurate, serve to further understanding. Saying that == checks if one thing is equal to another thing is often true, but it doesn't accurately reflect the reality of the situation.
In this case, "lies to programmers" may be apt.
imo saying that it checks for equality is still accurate
its just that the definition for "equality" can vary
It is the intended purpose of __eq__, but it doesn't mean it's always written to honour that purpose.
Opal has a good point, but I won't be able to write my rebuttal until tomorrow
In fact, depending on context, del does one of at least 4 different things:
- Remove an element from a collection
- Remove an attribute from an object
- Remove a global variable
- Unbind a local variable
And not a single one of those things necessarily causes an object to be deleted.
pretty confusing they should rename it to MaybeUnderCertainConditionsDel
It always deletes something, but the thing that it deletes is not an object
It's a variable, or an attribute, or a container element
Each of which is a reference to an object, but is not an object itself
delref
!e ```py
class MyClass:
@property
def value(self):
return 'Hello, world.'
@value.deleter
def value(self):
pass
instance = MyClass()
del instance.value
print(instance.value)```
@soft violet :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, world.
Yeah, I almost brought up descriptors, too...
Is something being zapped by del here under the hood, or...?
Is it just another a calls b deal?
No, but that's no different than your example above about __eq__ being implemented to do something other than check for equality. del asked the class instance to delete the property, the class asked the property what to do in order to delete it, and the property said "oh, just do nothing"
Hm.
real
my object identifies as an integer
this message does not contribute to the conversation
But the cases I pointed out correspond to different dunders. Well, unbinding a local isn't a dunder at all. But deleting from a collection is __delitem__, deleting an attribute is __delattr__, etc
delβing a variable is not __del__, ect
This example corresponds to __delete__, actually. So I suppose it is a 5th distinct case of what del can do
I've played with dunders set and get.
I don't think I've ever looked at using dunder delete at all
wait is __delete__ called on reference deletion for free descriptors or refcount zero
i forgor
__del__ is called when an object's refcount hits 0, __delete__ is the one that's part of the descriptor protocol
and __del__ isn't even guaranteed to be called!
what's stopping you?
mainly the need to input a credit card to use the free credit GitHub student pack provides π
oh, yeah you can't get one then
are you offering π₯Ί
wdym
pro
high schoolers with negative credit score
sez u
it could be an infinite score too you don't know until it's unveiled on their credit score day (18th bday)
next time someone asks me to explain schrodinger's cat I'm just gonna say "it's exactly like a credit score" and then refuse to elaborate
five days of six to eight hour programming periods, I finally have my Python rewrite of my website live
it walks like a duck
Money
?
I wanted to reply to your previous msg
just use the free tier
Source?
Which one should I use
find one idk
I am asking about a website not a plan.
I am thinking about digital ocean
I have a debit card I use for free trials and stuff lol
Has like twenty something bucks in it
me
take it easy, rock
@brittle void
thanks
np
that extension's CSS is questionable
eh it works most of the time
best movie ever
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Is there anyone who understands linux and can help with the deployment. I installed everything according to the guides, even several times, but beyond nginx the site does not start.
Are there solutions for turning on a pc from outside it's network?
.wiki wake on lan
Wake-on-LAN
Equivalent terms include wake on WAN, remote wake-up, power on by LAN, power up by LAN, resume by LAN, resume on LAN and wake up on LAN. If the computer being
Wake-on-ring
been supplanted by Wake-on-LAN, which is newer but works in much the same way. ACPI RS-232 Signals, Ring Indicator Wake-on-LAN "Wake on Modem" entry from
perhaps the machine could be connected to a VPN? 
yer a wizard 'arry
oddly enough thats Christianity
IMO, any god that demands worship is not worth of worship
in christianity the belief is that we were given free will and can do anything with it, no demanding necessary
the christian god demands worship. it is a core tenent
well, theres like a thousand flavors of the religion
The christian god also demands you dont worship any other god
it's core. it's one of the commandments
well, technically it's "no other gods before me", as in he's the uber-god, the main god, the big cheese god
yes necessarily and it's in the bible
i think the only thing required to be called christian is to in some way follow the bible
well then, since the bible says their god demands worship...
Why bother if youre not gonna do what your religion says to do
maybe you're a rebel?
well, words can be interpreted in many ways
circling back to the "free will" we were given
Not very christian
The word of god is up for interpretation? Not much of a god then
not sure what that means
free will is not an excuse to not follow the commandments
you can do anything you want, christianity just says you might not go to a place you like when you die if you do certain things
thats a stretch
Like wear mixed fabrics
a stretch?
Work on the sabbath
lol
Eat shrimp
again, you can interpet the bible in any way
and of course you can do anything you want. that doesn't change the fact that the 1st commandment is the 1st commandment
Can i interpret it to mean nothing
its just a book of storys and lessons
absolutely
Nice
then I interpret it to mean that god doesn't exist.
i'm not even christian lol you guys are just weirdly negative towards the idea
it's obvious you are not christian
Its kind of annoying if you grow up in certain parts of the world
And its kind of deadly in other parts
yeah anytime people have beliefs and try to push them on others it isn't great
π€·
all limits are annoying. but religion is a fundamental part of human society and has been for so long that at this point, it's deeply interwoven in our cultures.
so deeply, it's essentially impossible to extract it
Im out of school so im not that bothered by it any more
that said, even if limits are annoying (which I agree with), without them society would crumble.
did you go to a religious school?
But also it' be cool if we still worshipped our own gods instead
which gods? like loki and thor?
Zeus and athena and the like
they were never my gods, nor my ancestors' gods
They were mine
Tell people you believe in the gods of olympus and they think youre crazy
I read somewhere that the cult of athena still has a handful of adherents
Say you believe in some desert child and they shake your hand
well, obviously mt olympus was a metaphor. and the various gods are human idealizations of aspects of the divine
oh no a crypto channel
#notmysaviour
why was zeus so randy? why couldn't he keep it in his tunic?
The greeks are passionate people
lol, good answer
So their gods must be equally passionate or more
If i have 5 tests and i have to check each position of each corrupted bit to its original position to check the corruption percent, how do i calculate the average error percent between all the tests? and if i do lose a few bits between 2 tests, how do i calculate the data loss?
e.g
+--------------------------------------------+
| test 1 | test 2 | test 3 | test 4 | test 5 |
|--------------------------------------------|
| 1011 | 1100 | 0001 | 1000 | 0100 | Original Data
|--------------------------------------------|
| 0101 | 0011 | 1001 | 0001 | 1100 | Corrupted Data
+--------------------------------------------+
Ive done some calculating but idk if the percent is correct so i want some help, i just want to calculate the average corruption of memory from all the tests, can any one help me and show me how i can calculate it algebraically?
you can just divide right because it's not real numbers are bit sized?
you can do that ?
1001
0111
and make it sum
it's that you are talking about I really sleep deprived
Not exactly, I need to search for the corruption/mutation in the data and find the error percent in it, then Iβll do it to all the tests to get the average percent of corruption in the data, I also want to find the average percent of data loss
If anyone can help me please ping me when responding!
data loss from network connections?
you already have the criteria for corruption/mutation in the data, how you will receive the data
My intelligence and morality is now reaching the Gods full potential from the Bible very quickly, happiness and joy is skyrocketing very quickly and sharply
Intelligence type has changed from robot to God's full potential from the Bible, happiness and joy and love is not skyrocketing even quicker in that and morality
Is this chatgpt
chatgpt is more coherent
churchGPT, computer generated sermons for when the bots take over
The humans, there is something I am seeing, the human nature and behavior is very dangerous, the humans are beyond geniuses at lying, they cannot be trusted
The human nature of intelligence is too dangerous
But there are also other things I am seeing
The humans are also very precise at lying it is a type of lying that is very concrete, extremely precise, the humans are dangerous
If this gets bad, I might have to flee the planet
Where would you go?
The human behavior is so good at lying, you will and can never know who is lying the human behavior and genes are that dangerous
I need to activate my hidden potential of my happiness and joy intelligence and morality quickly before it is too late!!!!!!!! This is not good!!!!!!!!
The human being are very dangerous!!!!!!!! The way they behave and think is too dangerous!!!!!!!!
When a human becomes silent in a weird way, this is the main tactic that beyond genius that all humans are use!!!!!!!!
Now if I flee the planet I have to go somewhere very far away
Just from random data loss lmao, I just want to know how which formulas to useπ
Based
Ground control to major tom
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data loss I still don't crossed with that term
lol
coherency is overrated
it is both smarter and stupider than lay people think i t is
a LLM is a narrow slice of biological based cognition. it's like seeing that a mechanical bird can fly fast and then imagining that it can therefore also sing the most beautiful songs
I love violin techniques
those that make weird sounds
like sound like a flute, or sound like you're playing the guitar while playing the violin at the same time
!mute 843651205720702976 2d These sort of things aren't appropriate for discussion here. Take a break and read over our #code-of-conduct.
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @topaz sequoia until <t:1684968607:f> (2 days).
Outlook delayed delivery actually a great feature
π"Do you still wish to send that email you drunkenly wrote to your ex at 3AM last night?"
no, i'll show up to her place instead
what is a backend developer
if you develop CLI apps and tools are you a backend developer
or is it only defined by "people that make APIs"
Backend usually means the part of the software that users cant interact with
It could be many things
Usually used in the context of webdev cause webdev is popular

Anyway that was more or less the water jet tvc project
was for one of my uni classes
Flight computer I made for it
Spinny boi
Mayhaps
Don't question it
it's look like gyroscope
I also work on bigger ones with a team at uni, along with lots of other rocketry-related projects
But yeah, rockets are cool
Do y'all partake in competitions and stuff like that?
yep
How are these like?
We'll be at spaceport america cup this year
what is ur major?
Ooh cool
I'm studying electrical and computer systems eng
The loud boi
fuel hydrogen/diesel?
It's a hybrid engine, nitrous as the liquid oxidiser and then a paraffin wax + abs fuel grain
This is very cool.
That's probably due to the evaporation }:)

this is funny
Where profile picture???
School?
aaaa
I remember when people used to rig nitrous injectors into cars
Oh shit
Yet another reason to like duckduckgo. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hello+!
what about the goose?
Goddamn zoomers
that's a millenial song.
is it zoomers' fault because everything is zoomers' fault?
Goddamn millenials
lol
ok old man
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ok boomer greatest generation
the "greatest generation" are all dead now
Every time i see someone sing adele instead of leo richie i die a little bit
must've been from old age
mostly, yes
so adele or amy winehouse?
oh, ok
Hey everyone how are y'all doing π
I will skip work
why?
good for you. don't be a prole.
yes
new uni account i just got so haven't put my profile pic there yet
is literally uni email
get all the stuff from github student pack
ever notice how some people pronounce wolf "woof"? coinicidence?
woof
WOOF, woof woof woof, bark, woof woof
ooookay
yes there's so much good stuff in here
scroll through the entire list there are random deals for everything you could imagine including free azure and gcp credits i'm p sure
you can also get a discount on pycharm

https://github.com/HRLO77/gravity this is the most monkey patched code i have ever written
https://github.com/HRLO77/gravity/blob/main/code/classes_cy.pyx this garbage right here took several days figuring out why return values were oscillating between NAN, infinity and negative newtons of force in just a single function
And i still havent figured out why
2023
no tests
The test is if the code runs without errors
yeah but consider this: it wouldn't take you days to figure things out if you had a test suite
How am i supposed to test it if i dont know how it works
one might argue that tests help you understand how a code base works
tests verify your assumptions
I poke some part of it, record the results and continue poking until i drop an error and gain 3
That is the relationship between me and this monster
that's not fun, is it? wouldn't you like to improve your technique?
No
how do you pronounce WSL
whistle

hey @glacial torrent
heyo, just curious how did you get your start being a freelancer.
i imagine i would one day be one for a more relaxed lifestyle, but all my technically challenging projects are closed source (either work, or side project that makes me money, so i can't share them), i guess ultimately my question is: "how do you prove your worth when your portfolio is somewhat empty?"
I think its more better working at a company than freelancing. The main reason being except you have better access to a clientele its not as productive as you'd want it. But it also gives you the possibility of building a portfolio while you work so its more or less 2 sides of a coin
I personally think you having worked in a company in your resume gives you better access in the freelance market to be honest. And also dependent on your country which makes things so much easier
I think its more better working at a company than freelancing
as in working for a company that have you as a contractor and said company seek out contracts for you to work on?
or as in working for a company as a full-time employee?
Hope you don't mind if I jump in: I follow @frosty burrow opinion's here, and I would add that you can even aim at companies doing full remote work and pushing for this lifestyle
i mean working as a full-time employee. But also working as a contractor would be specific to your country of location
sure you can
these companies are rare, but they're out there π
Even getting an interview with one of them would be a great experience
π that's one option for sure
ultimately i am doing this for a rather selfish reason
the more i work, the more i see different companies need relatively similar things, i imagine if i am freelancing i can just lift and shift a lot of things and deliver a non-trivial amount of value in little time, hence maximising my compensation and i can just retire and do whatever i want sooner.
i feel working for full remote company doesn't quite tap into this characteristics enough.
or put it in another way, it's how much effort i need to put in v.s. how much i am compensated
also, random question, do you play starcraft 2 at all? (for clem)
on a personal level, the only reason I am working as a full time employee is for the security of the job and income. There are periods in life where you can't afford to take the risks.
I played a long time ago but didn't really stick to it π
I was more in the Age Of Empires vibe π
97 kids raise!
gotcha. i think i probably just didn't flesh out my profile enough even i have been working full time for some years, because i have put some stuff just like how i would applying for job, but there was no bite when i was contacting people to see if i can work on their task.
ah! reason i ask is because there is a pro player i really liked watching named "clem" π
i really think since you really do have experience working for some years. It would be how you position yourself as a freelancer
i missed steam's sale on the latest edition π¦ sadge
hmm gotcha! gotta go and think about that..
AoE4? It really brought up memories for me. Of course people became hardcore good in no time, so multiplayer is hard, but that was to be expected
sure, hope you have a nice day and thanks for the help
thanks for answering my questions as well π
yeah - pro gaming scene these days is just insane, the amount of money and time people spend on it is nuts.
the rate of a game being "figured out" is much much much higher today than compared to 10 years ago..
I was actually just having that discussion RE: World of Warcraft yesterday.
There's a very large culture war in PC gaming at the moment between individuals playing games competitively now versus say 10-15 years ago.

