ot1-perplexing-regexing

[young shoal]

ok, but 17k is a "big" company, >100k is "really big"

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/WRT1V:HEL?window=5Y

[rugged owl]

?

Hmm

[solemn tulip]

at some point I ran the numbers for the big office I'm working at. I think we are close to 1.5% of the population of the city

which is pretty bonkers

[young shoal]

sheesh

a lot of the defense contractors are like that here

next semester i'm taking "american military culture" lul

wow, the person responded. that's not a good sign, lol

though their response was quite cryptic

[rugged owl]

[young shoal]

indeed

also my schedule looks like a person

[solemn tulip]

(that's your first challenge)

[young shoal]

they sent 2 emails, 1 minute apart. the first had a teams invite, with the words "Will be calling from {phone_number}". second had no teams invite, just "Will be calling from {phone_number}"

[solemn tulip]

Sounds sensible enough I guess

[young shoal]

oh well. i'm more worried about a principal engineer sending emails at 10pm

[solemn tulip]

10pm where?

[young shoal]

my time

though i guess, hawaii is still pretty reasonable time

[solemn tulip]

your contact isn't overseas here in Europe?

[young shoal]

idk. i can google them i suppose 🤔

[solemn tulip]

if they were in finland it's 5:30 am

so I hope that's not the case

[young shoal]

yeah i mean, it's not looking good lol

[rugged owl]

Does the company have a US sided team?

[young shoal]

oh, their linkedin says NY

not very good 🥴

[rugged owl]

Wait wtf, my query ends up being 1.5k rows. oh ffs

Also, could be just checking morning meetings.

[young shoal]

wdym

[young shoal]

yes, in CT, apparently

[rugged owl]

Some people check their outlook at night just before bed to confirm morning meetings etc.

[solemn tulip]

RIP the finnish dream

[rugged owl]

or from company phone.

[young shoal]

but they sent the first at 8:30 🥴

[young shoal]

what dream

[rugged owl]

idk what time zone your in

[young shoal]

EDT

[rugged owl]

Yea, normal people go to bed at like 9:00pm

[young shoal]

but they stop working when they leave work, lol

[rugged owl]

When you're remote, you never leave

[solemn tulip]

I basically never go to bed before midnight 😅

[young shoal]

it's probably close to sunrise over there isn't it

[solemn tulip]

(granted, I'm also not at work before 11 normally)

[young shoal]

flex moment

[solemn tulip]

I need to work a bunch with people on the US west coast, so it kinda works out

[young shoal]

fair enough lol

oh right

the time difference is...like 9 hours?

8?

[solemn tulip]

9

(ignoring odd DST stuff)

[rugged owl]

Huh, ur in europe?

[tranquil iron]

odd DST? most of the year is spent in DST

[young shoal]

now i've gotta prep for this interview 😔

[solemn tulip]

odd DST stuff as in it's like a week of 8 hour time difference because different dates for DST

[young shoal]

huh but if you're 9 hours ahead you're still waiting quite a while for them to wake up

[solemn tulip]

we have overlap starting at maybe 17-18 our time, so 8-9 their time

[young shoal]

fun morning meetings

[rough sapphire]

morning

[distant hazel]

what happened?

i just watched kill boksoon good movie

[young shoal]

all you had to do was stay

[young shoal]

i was writing an email

[rough sapphire]

how did it feel

[young shoal]

exhilarating

[rough sapphire]

i can imagine

[crystal spruce]

@hexed sierra #python-discussion message

i raise you https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713280492035768340/1093542585424941157/395901889046249475.png?width=1080&height=224

[young shoal]

bruh

[tardy rain]

At this point its just math nerds making things up to make our lives difficult

[jaunty wraith]

obligatory

[lament cairn]

wrong:

[crystal spruce]

tbf this one isn't really anything clever

it's just a couple of identities that if you know them, you can break apart the integrals in like a minute

[young shoal]

cos 0x

[crystal spruce]

and then the rest is just arithmetic

[crystal spruce]

it was for the 69420

[young shoal]

ah

[crystal spruce]

tho it being 0 does have significance

[young shoal]

well it adds 1

[crystal spruce]

actually the 0 is the only digit that's significant

all the other digits only have the property that they're nonzero

[lament cairn]

I'm trying out svelte right now, I take back all the shit I said about frontend dev, svelte is nice and has given me hope

[young shoal]

wtf is a super reaction

[young shoal]

you're going to get infracted

[vale raven]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/12102061808663-Reactions-and-Super-Reactions-FAQ

check out the reaction

[grave cove]

It's like a reaction but super

yk

[vale raven]

ye

[young shoal]

that's dumb as shit

[vale raven]

you take that back

[young shoal]

no

[grave cove]

Fr

[lament cairn]

oaeuhg

[tardy rain]

How do I super dislike

[solemn tulip]

did you see that they're adding sound boards to servers?

[young shoal]

now that would be funny

[solemn tulip]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/12612888127767-Soundboard-FAQ

[young shoal]

i mean, i would turn it on for like 30 seconds, then turn it off again, but it would be funny for that 30 seconds

[solemn tulip]

it's for people to use in vc

[young shoal]

interesting

[high haven]

what the

this is a new feature?

also i just used one of mine on that message

wait i only get a certain amount per week?

why are they so stingy

is discord going to turn into pay-2-win

or pay-4-reacts in this case

[rugged owl]

Classic is a lie, I see none

[jovial veldt]

Are conspiracy theories prohibited?

[young shoal]

not necessarily, i think. the rules mostly prohibit unruly arguments and things that might actually harm someone

[high haven]

you have classic?

i have the 50/year one

whichever that one is

@tardy rain going through my bookmarks backlog and found this https://metaplane.notion.site/Data-Analytics-Consultancies-14043cfd38ce407396e60244bf2172d5

[rugged owl]

Yea, that's classic. The other are 36/year or 100/120/ year

[high haven]

Ethan Aaron, one of linkedinfluencers, aka posers by sg, put up this list for data consultancies by tech stack (so yeah peeps are using notion for business ig)

[high haven]

wait

then how come you dont have the super react

[rugged owl]

Maybe mobile/web or I didn't opt into beta or something

[rugged owl]

It should also be when you react, there's 2 buttons

[high haven]

oh youre right. this is new

wait

do all the super reacts

have the same animation

or is it random

i would like different animations

[young shoal]

i think you can change it

there are a few

[high haven]

can you teach the boomer

[young shoal]

i don't have nitro

[high haven]

bruh

[young shoal]

rex have you done the IAT

[rugged owl]

Wait, nvm. Clearly I'm mf blind. 🦯

[young shoal]

mf thinking we were gaslighting him

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

yeah my 2nd major was sociology

[rugged owl]

LOL

[young shoal]

tf

[high haven]

oh nice!

[young shoal]

i didn't know you were like that

sg have you done the IAT

[high haven]

how did you find it

[rugged owl]

But I didn't see the button here.

[rugged owl]

three dots, must have missed it since I assumed it would glow pink

[rugged owl]

IAT? Not sure what that stands for

[high haven]

you dont know a lot of things about me. like my past life aka that i was in healthcare before i was a DS

[young shoal]

wild

[young shoal]

implicit association test 👀

[high haven]

honestly they shouldve done that

[young shoal]

i always use the context menu to react and reply

[rugged owl]

Wait, am I being A/B tested? It doesn't show up here...

[high haven]

wait

yours looks dif than mine

A/B testing irl

[rugged owl]

I'm on web lmao

[high haven]

oh

im using the desktop app

[rugged owl]

yea ok that makes more sense.

[rugged owl]

From harvard from my googling?

[high haven]

which one does discord keep up to date more

the desktop or web

/which one has more features

[rugged owl]

Also, those words mean nothing to me "implicit association test"

[high haven]

i use the mobile one a lot too

dont really use the web one at all

[rugged owl]

Mobile def doesn't have it.

Or at least

Yea ok, confirmed

[high haven]

wait let me check

[young shoal]

idk. it's a test that tests your implicit association

[rugged owl]

Not blind on mobile

[rugged owl]

Ok, from my googling. It's like your biases?

[high haven]

no doesnt have it

[young shoal]

rex suddenly becoming a round character

[rugged owl]

Wat

[young shoal]

yeah your implicit biases

[rugged owl]

[high haven]

this is why you never assume things at face value

honestly

youre one of the last ones to know

out of the regs

[young shoal]

i always assume

[high haven]

jk

maybe

[young shoal]

do it 👀

[rugged owl]

THERE IS LIKE 15

bruh

[young shoal]

well just pick one

[rugged owl]

16*, my guess is pretty good

[high haven]

the classic one is the race one

[young shoal]

do the gender-science one 👀

[high haven]

black - white

like that was the original harvard bias one

[rugged owl]

How racist am I,

[high haven]

how unconsciously racist are you

honestly everyone is (at least a little bit)

even blacks themselves

thats what the original paper found

[young shoal]

it's super obvious too. like if you try this with a room full of people, you can literally see the bias

[rugged owl]

It doesn't help when news always show black people with terrible mug shots, and whites not even in hand cuffs. cough orange man cough

[young shoal]

do it sg 👀

[high haven]

yeah its funny bc in other countries, the bias is much less or just doesnt exist

[rugged owl]

Later, I must eat first.

[high haven]

so that was another finding in the paper

[young shoal]

bruh isn't it a little late

[high haven]

bruh

its late in cst

[rugged owl]

No

[young shoal]

oh you're cst

[high haven]

im cst

[young shoal]

oof

[rugged owl]

[young shoal]

cst < est fr

[high haven]

i have one coworker

who insists on east coast best coast

and everyone just gives her shit

lmao

[young shoal]

sg how do i get intuition for markov's inequality

[young shoal]

bruh smfh my head

[rugged owl]

Markov can shove it

[high haven]

you shook your head twice

[young shoal]

smfh my HEAD

[rugged owl]

Creating all this bs I have to learn Markov chain

[young shoal]

i loved markov chains in linalg

[rugged owl]

It's always the same mf creating all these concepts

Physics, math

[young shoal]

i think it's actually miscredited to him

[rugged owl]

Because he was white?

[high haven]

its funny bc she was in charge of all the interns/me when i was an intern

[young shoal]

😔

bruh i got an email and i thought it was a company but it was just some other college inviting me to their open house 😒

[high haven]

lol dont you get like a preview

so you know

before you open it fully

im assuming you get those email notifs on your phone

or something

[young shoal]

well the companies said they'd email this week so i'm habitually checking my email every 20 mins now

[high haven]

my friend

[young shoal]

what!

[high haven]

[young shoal]

i can't 😔

this one company previously emailed at like 9:30, so you never know, right

and tomorrow is the last day of the week 😬

[high haven]

where is @rugged owl

talk some sense into psvm

[young shoal]

tbh i'm probably gonna get ghosted by one of the companies, but the other one probably won't

[rugged owl]

9:30 email is tomorrow's problem

[young shoal]

more like

9:30 rejection will cause me to go to sleep immediately

but it's 10:30 anyways. yesterday a guy responded to my email at 10:30 lol

tbh, if the healthcare company ghosts me i'll be quite annoyed. i had like 3 interviews with them already

and i followed up and they said they'd email 😔

[high haven]

my friend

[young shoal]

how!

[high haven]

@west zephyr melio help me out here

[young shoal]

wack

if I don't get an internship I'll have to keep working at chipotle

[rugged owl]

Apply to chipotle corporate

[young shoal]

they don't have positions for me

technically I'm pretty close to 1 year there

my benefits will start kicking in

[hexed sierra]

what kind of intuition are you after

[young shoal]

what kinds are there

the proof makes sense, but like, why

[hexed sierra]

idk, geometric, philosophical

[hexed sierra]

i don't understand this 😛

[young shoal]

we can prove it with the definition of expected value, right, but I don't get it 😔😔😔

[hexed sierra]

get what?

the proof is the why

but that's why i asked what kind of intuition you want

[young shoal]

😭😭

idk pick one

[hexed sierra]

let's see what we can make up

you can see that the probability P(X >= a) is the area of the right tail of a pdf, yeah?

[young shoal]

uh huh

[hexed sierra]

now the other part, what could work?

maybe a rectangle. let's see

[young shoal]

I just know that EX is clearly >= aP(X>=a). maybe that's enough 😔

since X is nonnegative

[hexed sierra]

idk the best that comes to mind is precisely what shows up in the easiest proof

since we're integrating x p(x), and in the interval x in [a, \infty), x >= a

x p(x) >= a p(x)

if you discretize this into a riemann sum, naturally x p(x) has taller rectangles of height x p(x) and base dx, than those with height a p(x) and width dx

one of them multiplies the pdf by a constant, the other multiplies it by x >= a, a line starting at height a but getting larger. this makes the pdf taller lol

it might be clearer if you apply it to a uniform distribution

[young shoal]

yeah it does make sense

😩😩😭😔

[hexed sierra]

this is what i can offer you at 6 am on a holiday

[young shoal]

why do you Es look like XORs

[hexed sierra]

it's also wrong because i forgot to multiply the rectangle on the bottom right by a, but there's still a triangle of area unaccounted for

.latex $let \mathbb{E}(\cdot) denote the \emph{expectation} operator$

[hexed sierra]

what the fuck am i doing

[young shoal]

too early for this lol

[hexed sierra]

.latex let $\mathbb{E}(\cdot)$ denote the $\emph{\mathrm{expectation}}$ operator

[median dome]

Failed to render input.

View Logs

[hexed sierra]

ok

.latex anyway, $\mathbb{E}$

[foggy jungle]

[hexed sierra]

.latex i normally see xor as $\oplus$, since it behaves like addition in $\mathbb{Z}/2\mathbb{Z}$

[young shoal]

yeah

I just write a normal E

[acoustic moss]

Z big solidus 2Z

[grave cove]

BIG solidus

[foggy jungle]

The malware we just knocked over takes webcam pics

remnux@remnux:~/Malware/<snip>-0.8/src/<snip>$ cat campic.py
import cv2
def take():
 cap = cv2.VideoCapture(0)
 ret, frame = cap.read()
 cv2.imwrite("image.png", frame)
 cap.release()
 cv2.destroyAllWindows()

[high haven]

bruh

actually yknow what that reminds me of

that site our cybersec prof had showed us

that basically had live footage from hacked devices

🥴

[foggy jungle]

They're not hacked, they're unsecured.

There's a few sites that simply enumerate IP address ranges and map the resources found there.

[high haven]

oh ok

oh hey

you knew exactly the site i was talking about

[foggy jungle]

I'll delete it now because I still find it very creepy.

[high haven]

wait why did i get a sus emoji

honestly i didnt want to post it

part of it was bc of that

and then the other part was like

he probs knows which one im referring to

and lo and behold

https://www.comprehensive.io/

sg would hate this. nobody tell 'em

also nice simple stack

🥞

interesting

[rugged owl]

@young shoal Apparently I have to take IAT multiple times for it to be accurate? https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/3/7/14637626/implicit-association-test-racism
Once is more than enough.

If anything, I learned that I can't read.

[foggy jungle]

This same malware author has gone from publishing legitimate package titles to saying 'bro plz' with their package titles as I kill the webhooks lol

[thick ore]

LMFAOO

must feel nice

[cloud steppe]

i mean

what else

i'm thinking of a suggestion system which sends the data and i can view it

but i'm not sure how that would work

[plush sun]

I mean, that sounds nice, though it might be open to spam and just general unlikeables

About the images and MP4 files you mentioned

[cloud steppe]

yep

since i got the position at absolute

[plush sun]

I think CSS might help with that, yeah

[cloud steppe]

but if i try to change that the mp4 and images doesn't go where i want it to go

which is annoying

i mean how would you make this look better

[plush sun]

Hmm

Fair

I feel like you need top, bottom, left, and right in CSS

Not just absolute or relative

[cloud steppe]

mhm

right thanks ill try it

[cloud steppe]

could you make this look better

[plush sun]

There are some things you can do to make it look better, but I feel like that should come along with the features for now

The menu is vertical rather than horizontal, for instance

[cloud steppe]

in terms of features do you know any features i could add

[plush sun]

What is your website about?

[cloud steppe]

fact file of friends

[cloud steppe]

ye i used relative and it didn't work

[plush sun]

Oh, I only meant that you should keep relative in mind, since there are also situations for it

But yeah, that's fair

[plush sun]

Hmm, "fact file" in what way?

[cloud steppe]

like

Name;
Age:
Birthday:
Likes:
Dislikes:

Etc.

[plush sun]

Have you implemented the inputting elements for those?

[cloud steppe]

i've lit just used <h1></h1> and <p></p>

[plush sun]

Oh, dang

I think making those elements and making them interact with your database is a good next step

[cloud steppe]

ye i make create another webpage

with all the simple info and then a more information line

for them to add more

info

then i need to figure out how to send it to the database

what should i call it?

[plush sun]

The page?

[cloud steppe]

ye like 'login'

what should i call this webpage which basically gives me info to write another fact file of a person

recommendation?

[plush sun]

Hmm, probably something like "Edit Your Details"; in keeping with your "fact file" theme, maybe "Edit Your Facts"

[cloud steppe]

Submit fact file?

[plush sun]

Probably, yeah

[cloud steppe]

ye ima go do that thanks

[plush sun]

This page lists inputting elements that you might use: https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_form_elements.asp

[cloud steppe]

ye thanks i think i should be able to do this without it

[plush sun]

Nice

[thick ore]

Damn ☹️

[crystal spruce]

me: brew install pipx
homebrew: lemme just install like 50 packages for you real quick

[thick ore]

dependencies are fun

[young shoal]

or that you're implicitly biased

[jaunty wraith]

imagine not pip to install pipx using

I some words

[young shoal]

using

[crystal spruce]

using

[jaunty wraith]

brain had race condition

[crystal spruce]

tfw brain is not thread safe

[young shoal]

your brain should be async, pretty much

or, multithreaded with 1 cpu thread, lmao

[jaunty wraith]

one wrinkle = one thread

[thick ore]

so like the nodejs event loop?

[young shoal]

writing C after writing rust is truly enlightening

i'm always thinking "is this gonna be dangling?" or "is this even valid?"

"does this live long enough for that?"

[jaunty wraith]

why are you writing C again

[young shoal]

for fun

i want to write a web server, but then i realized if i want a cool web server i should make a threadpool, but then i realized if i want a cool threadpool i should make a deque

[jaunty wraith]

then you realized

[young shoal]

nah there aren't really many hard parts of a deque, so i just wrote one

i'm working on the threadpool part now. it is going

$ ./build/main
7205759406224212296
Segmentation fault

oh i actually know what's happening i think

it was a dangling pointer 😔

[young shoal]

also I kinda forgot about a class this morning

[foggy jungle]

If it makes you feel better, I can't do anything because I have a bunch of 'work supplies' (I have no clue what's actually in the package) coming sometime before 12pm that requires a signature. 😦

cant even shower smh.

[young shoal]

😔

attendance is taken in that class

[foggy jungle]

[vale raven]

Attendance is taken in every class gamer

[foggy jungle]

Err... not in uni at least.

[young shoal]

no lol

[sly spire]

dear god I hope not

[young shoal]

it's fine it's just an intro C course

so I basically was studying this morning

[foggy jungle]

I did more than a few classes that I only showed up for midterms/finals.

[unkempt thistle]

@summer flicker
Sorry ping you slove some issues?

inarokami= "Became\powerful\person\amoung\each's \ones\in \a \business"
print(inarokami)

Escape sequence .

String I do .

[young shoal]

😬

Your instructor has marked you absent for Apr 07 2023 10:30 AM in your course 2023 Spring 06 Computer systems and Low-Level Programming.

[foggy jungle]

oh well

you paid for the course.

Attendance in college is the dumbest concept I can think of.

[young shoal]

it's graded too

I won't have a perfect anymore

😔

[vale raven]

[foggy jungle]

Yeah-- I have very very strong opinions about the ethics behind attendance in college. You already have my money-- you got paid already. There's absolutely zero reason for you to associate my performance in a class with my attendance.

[young shoal]

good thing it's weighted far less than everything else

[hexed sierra]

germany moment: all you need to do is show up for the exam, which is usually worth 100% of your grade

[young shoal]

i think that's good for some people, terrible for others

[foggy jungle]

Adopt me.

This is my dream. Let me pay for a class and then leave me alone until test time.

[tranquil iron]

many universities do exactly that

[foggy jungle]

Alternatively, simply offer certificates in exchange for college credit. Study, apply for the test, take the test, get college credit.

[vale raven]

It's free for them BTW

[hexed sierra]

it's not free

it's very cheap for the students though, we pay only administrative fees which are usually under 200€ per semester

the tax payers cover the rest

[young shoal]

sheesh

[tranquil iron]

I don't think professors took attendance in my classes

[jaunty wraith]

we had a 75% attendance requirement

I barely passed

[tranquil iron]

there was one class I showed up to only on the first day, the midterm and final.

[vale raven]

I started taking classes online while working full time
At work, I was in a department full of people that didn't speak English, so it was learn Spanish or drown

My first semester of college, I took Spanish 1 online
They made me take a course in this system
I clicked through the steps and completed day 1's "this is the word for "hi"" in just a couple minutes
I was bored so I made a game of it and completed the entire week's worth of work in like 45 minutes
I got like a 99.5%
I looked in the gradebook and the professor had just entered that number
Cool
That class was great
Handled the entire week in under an hour on Monday morning

Then I started my second semester
Time for Spanish 2
New professor, but same computer system
Aight, I got this
Completed the entire weeks worth of work on Monday morning
Got a 100%

Checked the gradebook, had a 50%

I had a 100% for that and a 0% for "participation in discussion with classmates"
It's an online class!!!!!
I dropped that class

.... I use too many newlines

[jaunty wraith]

better than using lots of old lines

[vale raven]

[tranquil iron]

I give @vale raven a 25% for using too many newlines in his online discussion

[vale raven]

[jaunty wraith]

I'll give a ((200 - 25))% just because

[vale raven]

[tranquil iron]

I'll buy that for $5

[vale raven]

If you're going to pull this shit at least have competitive pricing

[jaunty wraith]

I'll buy it for $999

[vale raven]

I'm not going to email you wait for you to get back to me and license through you for $1k+fees when I can buy my own by myself for $10, maybe less

[rugged owl]

And the test is flawed

[young shoal]

clearly

[foggy jungle]

Would you be interested in purchasing the domain WeDogScreenPrinting.com?

[vale raven]

Unfortunately my employer is not dog themed

[young shoal]

what's screen printing

[vale raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm0eHQKcpHs

Your design goes on the screen

Machine pushes ink through the design onto the shirt

[young shoal]

I see

wait why are they offering to sell you a domain anyway

[vale raven]

We get one like every week

[young shoal]

we?

[vale raven]

The company

"{city}screenprinting.com is on sale now!!!!!!11!"

[young shoal]

huh

[vale raven]

Where {city} is any one of like 12 cities around us

Doesn't make any sense

Always from random ahh email addresses

[foggy jungle]

I wish to work for a company that does the vaguely breast-shaped silicone printing on the insides of the bowls.

[young shoal]

[foggy jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x9qJ2os_TNo

[young shoal]

I see

[tranquil iron]

how do we know that's not fake?

[young shoal]

it's AI, look at the person's hand

[foggy jungle]

[tranquil iron]

have you ever considered going into oyster farming?

[young shoal]

?

[steady goblet]

except expect

if it can go wrong, it will go wrong

hence, you will expect to fail, not provide an exception

[vocal path]

Are electric cars eco friendly

[tardy rain]

No

[steady goblet]

More so than diesel cars, provided you use them enough to compensate for the environmental impact of the battery

[tardy rain]

What about charging them

[vocal path]

Battery production itself is not eco friendly

Then electricity production

[steady goblet]

Depends on the source of electricity

[vocal path]

Then battery recycling problem

[steady goblet]

Use public transportation

[vocal path]

Then cobalt mining in Democratic Republic of Congo. You know the condition of labour working there right?

Almost all of the cobalt for battery production comes from DRC and there the working condition is very poor

@steady goblet What will you comment on these facts

[steady goblet]

Depends on battery type

[vocal path]

Almost all electric vehicles comes with Li-ion battery and it requires cobalt

[steady goblet]

Aren’t most electrical vehicles driven by lithium batteries?

[vocal path]

https://youtu.be/Hmqf0L52rD8

[steady goblet]

But yeah, I dislike cars

[vocal path]

Lithium batteries need cobalt

[steady goblet]

Not necessarily

[vocal path]

Lithium isn't the only component

[steady goblet]

there are other types

[vocal path]

Yes necessarily

[steady goblet]

No

[vocal path]

All batteries that are used in cars have cobalt. It's an important metal for all car batteries

All lithium batteries

[steady goblet]

yes but

[vocal path]

No but

[steady goblet]

what

wait

[vocal path]

Watch the video

[steady goblet]

why are we arguing

[vocal path]

This one is probably better
https://youtu.be/1TL7hTx5z0k

[vocal path]

I am not. I am just telling facts and you are not accepting

[steady goblet]

But there are other types of batteries

That don’t require cobolt

lead

[vocal path]

Those batteries are so inefficient for electric cars that they are not even used in most cars

[steady goblet]

majority

[vocal path]

Yeah majority

[steady goblet]

I haven’t said what you are saying isn’t true

[vocal path]

Not minority

[steady goblet]

But you won’t listen when I say that not all cars use cobolt

[vocal path]

I know but I said MOST cars still use cobalt

[steady goblet]

no

[vocal path]

All lithium batteries. I said that below to make the statement above correct

[dapper dew]

Cobalt is definitely a problem for electric cars

But whats the alternative?

[steady goblet]

sus

[vocal path]

Maybe nickel

[steady goblet]

public transportation

electricity grid

trains

[dapper dew]

Yes, that works for urban places with a dense amount of people

[steady goblet]

yeah that’s quite efficient

[dapper dew]

But what about everything outside the city?

[steady goblet]

they won’t matter

[dapper dew]

Or the suburbs

[tardy rain]

Lmao

[steady goblet]

when people in urban areas don’t use cars

[vocal path]

They do matter

[steady goblet]

they can run whatever then

it will have so little impact

[vocal path]

I think hydrogen powered cars would be better

[dapper dew]

I'm pretty sure most cars are not in cities

[steady goblet]

let’s have people move into efficient cities

[tardy rain]

That sounds like hell

[dapper dew]

Hydrogen leaks out of solid metal due to diffusion, the storage and transportation will be an issue

[steady goblet]

no
a well planned city can be a good place to live in

gothenburg

[tardy rain]

Never heard of it

[carmine apex]

ah yes, hydrogen, one of the least cooperative chemicals. at least it's not fluorine, i guess

[steady goblet]

try

[tardy rain]

Do you live in a big city

[low chasm]

I like the suburbs ;-;

[steady goblet]

it’s actually a good idea

[vocal path]

Yeah so farmers should farm on your roof tops

[tardy rain]

Gothenburg has a pop of half a million

[steady goblet]

american suburbs are disturbingly inefficient

[tardy rain]

The entire city doesnt matter

[steady goblet]

?

[dapper dew]

Moving all people into an efficient city seems like an extreme solution to the problem of what should be done about making transportation more CO2 efficient

[steady goblet]

Not what I said

[steady goblet]

public transportation is efficient

You can have people live in smaller interconnected cities too

[dapper dew]

Right, but most of the transportation emissions is not happening in dense cities

[steady goblet]

if you build rails

[vocal path]

Can't be done in places where the population density is already very high. And a urban population has higher carbon footprint than rural so that's going to be worse

[tardy rain]

Real life isnt a civ game

[steady goblet]

wait can you find paper on this

it’s interesting

[steady goblet]

why not

[tardy rain]

Because its not? Does that need explanation?

[open fern]

North American suburbs and stroads are painful.

[low chasm]

stroads?

you can't really live in the suburbs without a car here

[steady goblet]

I said that farmers can use whatever to power their vehicles when people move to cities and start using public transportation

I also think public transportation should be free

[open fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM

[low chasm]

ah, those

[open fern]

Very common in America and Canada

[low chasm]

yeah, there's a ton of those

[steady goblet]

imagine if the cities ran on light rail

[open fern]

Car companies: no.

But yeah, goodexcellent public transportation is probably the only way out of this mess in the short to medium term. Ideally cities would be designed to be walkable, but that's not happening.

[vocal path]

That's what it should be done in every city

[carmine apex]

have you seen the hella-dumb controversy over 15-minute cities? dude who came up with the idea's getting death threats, smh

[low chasm]

🥴

[vocal path]

The most eco friendly way to travel is probably teleportation tho

[low chasm]

ah yes, teleportation

[vocal path]

/tp aboo USA

[open fern]

Nope. Like someone is getting death threats over saying people should be able to walk to a grocery store/school/$other-essentials in 15 minutes?

[low chasm]

ah man, I wish we had a walkable grocery store

[dapper dew]

I cannot find a paper on the location of emissions, but it stands to reason that most cars used are not being used inside dense urban centers

[steady goblet]

america

I question that claim

[carmine apex]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/28/technology/carlos-moreno-15-minute-cities-conspiracy-theories.html
in case of paywall: https://archive.is/gr8pX

[dapper dew]

If you can find contrary evidence I would welcome it

[low chasm]

it does make sense, you pretty much need a car outside of the city

[vocal path]

We should just ride horses outside the city

So much horsepower too

[steady goblet]

Many Americans suffer from being indoctrinated by corporate propaganda
The state of city planning in America is the result of this

[dapper dew]

Well by the time we got here the cities were already built along 2 -3 roads

ribbon development at its finest

[low chasm]

apparently horses can go up to 15 horsepower

[carmine apex]

horse have giant problems of leaving things on roads. i've heard that during the heyday of horse transportation, you basically needed boots to cross the road without getting uh "dirty"

[open fern]

What the hell-

[vocal path]

Don't feed them too much then

[low chasm]

if you chain two horses, that's 30 horsepower, then

[vocal path]

That's good enough I guess

[low chasm]

ah what, that's terrible

[foggy jungle]

That's two horsepower aboo

[low chasm]

apparently the electric hummer has 1k horsepower

[low chasm]

apparently one horse can go up to 15 horsepower

[foggy jungle]

the terms feels a bit misleading then doesn't it

[low chasm]

"1/15th of a horse-power"

[vocal path]

That site apparently costs money for reading the article

[carmine apex]

the archive.is one doesn't

[foggy jungle]

We could just redefine 1 hoursepower to be equal to 1/15th of what it is now.

[low chasm]

lmao

[foggy jungle]

err 15* what it is now?

I'm bad at math.

[low chasm]

me too 🥴

living in a city at some point would be pretty nice

[foggy jungle]

I'm moving to a larger city, but it still has no real public transportation, so I get to walk everywhere.

[vocal path]

How can you make 15 minute cities? Is that even possible?

[foggy jungle]

My race car won't get along very well in downtown traffic

[young shoal]

a horsepower is like 746 watts

[foggy jungle]

[low chasm]

.wa s how many watts can a horse produce

[foggy jungle]

My PSU makes nearly two horsepower.

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

Failed to get response.

[young shoal]

well, it's not making it

[foggy jungle]

Which means... hold on

No, no.

I'm going down this rabbit hole.

[low chasm]

I guess "producing" is the wrong word

[steady goblet]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-11184-y/figures/1

[low chasm]

aren't CO2 emissions not exclusively from cars

[foggy jungle]

I need 256 power supplies to make as much power as my car.

[low chasm]

just hook up your car battery in place of your PSU

[steady goblet]

correct

[open fern]

Maybe not 15 minutes exactly, but European cities are in general way more walkable and compact. Also their zoning is mixed so commercial buildings (stores/restaurants/etc) are found next to residential buildings.

[low chasm]

right, so wouldn't that not directly equate to just transportation emissions?

[steady goblet]

I think (human?) transportation produced some 30% of global emissions

[vocal path]

Yeah humans emit them too

[steady goblet]

cargo transport produces insane amounts of pollution

[open fern]

15 minute cities in general seem hard for North America, but creating walkable urban cores within cities should be doable.

[low chasm]

500 horsepower?

[foggy jungle]

~480 give or take.

[open fern]

North America is always going to be more suburban than Europe.

[low chasm]

hah, I was close

[vocal path]

How can it be done in a very densely populated country

[low chasm]

I don't dislike the suburbs, but it does making going anywhere somewhat of a pain

[dapper dew]

This is emissions by population

[low chasm]

re: going anywhere as a minor 😔

[open fern]

Don't build single-family units everywhere? (get rid of R1 zoning in America)

[dapper dew]

Not necessarily distribution of personal transport

[low chasm]

I do get my license later this month 😤

[steady goblet]

yes

[open fern]

The fact some cities are almost exclusively zoned for detached single-family housing in America is insane.

[steady goblet]

Maritime shipping transports 90 percent of the goods traded around the world by volume. Moving large amounts of goods such as oil, computers, blue jeans and wheat across oceans drives the global economy, making it cheaper and easier to buy almost anything.

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-cargo-ships-emitting-boatloads-carbon.html

[foggy jungle]

Land is one of the best investments of money-- period, really.

[low chasm]

huh, what's bad about single family housing? ~ genuinely asking

[foggy jungle]

It makes sense that people want to build a house on a parcel of land and leave that for their family.

[vocal path]

Doge coins are close second

[foggy jungle]

Not that I think it's conducive to a better future.

But it is financially grounded in reality at least.

[open fern]

It makes sense from an individual perspective and it is a big part of the American culture/dream, but it's not scalable/sustainable.

[foggy jungle]

Correct, but it's hard to inspire that kind of cultural change-- rezoning cities like that is so fundamentally contrary to the historic 'American Dream'.

Mind you, I don't disagree with you at all.

[open fern]

I'm not against single-family housing, but it shouldn't be the only option.

[low chasm]

I see, fair enough

[foggy jungle]

But I also personally would like to build up enough generational wealth that subsequent members of my family live securely on their own land, with their own things, etc.

[vocal path]

But traffic is a big problem in cities

[low chasm]

well, public transportation solves that, doesn't it

[foggy jungle]

Ish.

[open fern]

it's hard to have good public transportation in suburban areas

[open fern]

Yeah, It's tricky, and we'll need both low-density and high-density housing. I just don't think we've struck the right balance at the moment.

[low chasm]

right, yeah. although ideally, you'd have decent public transport in urban locations

[foggy jungle]

There's also the implications of what to do with that additional land right?

It becomes either farmland or reclaimed land for things like state parks and whatnot.

Which is fantastic in theory, but if we lean into agriculture in America's heartland, what actually ends up happening is that land goes to larger farming corporations.

The rich get richer.

🤷‍♂️

[carmine apex]

you, like the US, have forgotten the "missing middle"

[foggy jungle]

It's better, but marginally.

[vocal path]

Isn't it much more efficient tho

[foggy jungle]

zzz I just stabbed the absolute shit out of my finger playing with a safety pin.

[vocal path]

Oh damn

[foggy jungle]

Efficient how?

[hexed sierra]

why is your finger full of shit? and also are you ok?

[open fern]

What exactly?

I was trying to imply in general a broad mix of housing.

[foggy jungle]

I think there is a broad mix of housing per capita.

[vocal path]

Imagine having small pieces of land for farming

[carmine apex]

middle-density housing - duplexes, row houses, cottage courts, etc

[foggy jungle]

That's not what happens though.

In cities like NY/Chicago/Seattle/etc., you only really get the urban single-family sprawl on the outskirts.

[vocal path]

Corporations can buy big land

[foggy jungle]

Says.. who? Corporations can buy anything. Even... housing itself.

If you want to know something really predatory-- a city I lived in was purchased by a single organization almost exclusively-- nearly 70% of houses were owned by a single real estate investing firm. Housing is a right, not a commodity to be traded.

[vocal path]

Which city

[open fern]

REITs are an interesting thing to think about. On the one hand, it's a great investment instrument and that should be available to the public, but treating housing as an investment first (hello BlackRock), before well.. providing a home to actual, breathing humans is bad.

[foggy jungle]

Nunya, BIZ

[foggy jungle]

It's great but it snowballs.

[open fern]

Mhmm.

Well there are multiple (real estate) investment firms, but BlackRock happens to own absolutely everything/the most.

[vocal path]

Oh shit I didn't know that the war is still going on

[foggy jungle]

It happens more than you think in particularly vulnerable cities, it's just well hidden from the average observer.

Particularly vulnerable cities in this case being local cities to places where individuals may be obligated to live (Military, for instance.)

Wanna get rich? If you have enough money, buy the housing around a local military base and raise the rates; Basic Allowance for Housing will raise with your efforts, and you'll milk the US government for millions above the actual price of land.

[vocal path]

How long will this war last

[open fern]

What war?

[vocal path]

How much more money does Russia have

[open fern]

I'm sure that they can smuggle their way into getting enough.

[vocal path]

It's oil money

That they get by selling to China

[foggy jungle]

Leaks

[carmine apex]

truly a doggo moment

[jaunty wraith]

I wish I could add more hours to the day (without affecting my health)

[grave cove]

LEEEEEKS

[vale raven]

[tranquil hawk]

when press "1" pygarm quit, what's wrong with this code

[vale raven]

@jaunty wraith re: your
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/54628770/180892252-cd814400-e934-4af6-a0b2-dd50a1f68649.png

Beautifully and [probably] ethically crafted by https://github.com/letsbuilda/clidogs/

[jaunty wraith]

where clicats

[vale raven]

A certain egg has raised the issue -- letsbuilda/clidogs#1
But there were ethical concerns about the possibilities of the cats attacking our pet robin...

[median dome]

GitHub

[clidogs] #1 Feat Request: Cats

[jaunty wraith]

one @grave cove is sacrifice enough for cats

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-gif-18708488

[thick ore]

but isn't clidogs supposed to replace clicats?!

[high haven]

[grave cove]

ong farquaad spittin facts fr

[high haven]

driving to city you hate #1

[tranquil iron]

what city do you hate?

[high haven]

i dont hate it

hence why im driving there

[tranquil iron]

ok, what city do not hate?

[high haven]

ok pit stop over

have to go

[tranquil iron]

have fun

[peak prairie]

it looks like garfield

[plush sun]

lasaga

jon

[crystal spruce]

cute

[signal scroll]

Cat

[tardy rain]

starting to dislike star wars fallen order combat system

i cant cancel animations and its bothering me

[uneven ingot]

how do you call to this symbol in mathematics

for example
x1 symbol x2

[hexed sierra]

not equal?

.latex $x_1 \neq x_2$

[uneven ingot]

thanks!!

im doing a homework and i always see that symbol but never knew what it does mean HAHHAHA

[hexed sierra]

a slash on a symbol is usually negation

[grave cove]

Skill issue

IMO it's quite fluent

[tardy rain]

Its not, its silly

First off if you die the enemy marked for getting your xp back is yellow and change to red when doing unblockable attacks

Thats just bullshit

Enemies you attack arent staggered but you are if you get hit

I cant cancel my fuckin animations

What sort of game is this

[grave cove]

are you spamming attack?

[tardy rain]

Animation cancelling is a key game mechanic

[tardy rain]

I cant roll out of a stim animation for example

Just cancel the stim and fucking dodge

[grave cove]

Hmm

[tardy rain]

inb4 just dont get hit at all

Yes i know but that doesnt excuse shitty mechanics

[grave cove]

Hopefully survivor is better then

[tardy rain]

I've also been fucked with the targeting system a couple times

If i focus on an enemy but then get hit with a red attack my focus goes away

Otherwise its fine for a 3£ game

[grave cove]

I guess that's supposed to be punishment for getting hit with a red attack?

[tardy rain]

Isnt getting hit the punishment for getting hit?

[grave cove]

For normal hits yeah

But red hits are meant to be like, super attack

[tardy rain]

Red hits take away more health

Seems like a bug to me

[grave cove]

Could be

In fall fairness tho

This isn't really respawns style I don't think

[tardy rain]

I dont think i've played respawn games before

[grave cove]

I mean look at titanfall and apex

[tardy rain]

Wait what the fuck

Apex is theirs

[grave cove]

They're wildly different from fallen order

Except some mechanics are borrowed like wall running

[tardy rain]

Bruh apex plays so smooth but you got this shit in star wars?

[grave cove]

Lmao IKR

It's just not their style of game

I'm still upset over them dropping titanfall

[tardy rain]

Both came out in 2019

Wdym dropping, titanfall was a bust

[grave cove]

Yeah if you look at it from a business perspective

The game itself is one of the best I've played

Fundamentally though the skill ceiling is way too high for multiplayer to really be feasible

Wouldn't have minded a single player campaign game

[tardy rain]

Theres no such thing as a skill ceiling or floor in multiplayer shooters

People do insane shit in current shooters

Looks like it wasnt marketed properly

[grave cove]

That's what they blame it on

Which.. at least has some truth to it

[tardy rain]

Theres 9yos building mansions in fortnite, throwing knives across the map in CoD, etc

[grave cove]

Was squished in between launch of battlefield and halo

[tardy rain]

Wew terrible timing

[grave cove]

Other than that it had a lot of potential

[tardy rain]

Have you played survivor?

[grave cove]

Who doesn't like big robots smashing things

[tardy rain]

The star wars one

[grave cove]

Is not out yet

[tardy rain]

Wut

Oh, misreading wiki

Soon tho, nice

I hope its better cause this is my kind of game tbh

[grave cove]

Apr 28 it seems

[grave cove]

Battlefront is similar in that it's in the Star Wars universe, but it's still very fun

[tardy rain]

I will take a look

[grave cove]

You get to play as all sorts of characters
B1 battle droid is my favorite to play as

Commando if I'm on republic side

[tardy rain]

Wow ok star wars nerd

I'll add it to the wishlist

Fallen order feels familiar but i cant put my finger on it

Maybe the middle earth games

[grave cove]

You caught me 😔

[honest star]

If people have the ability to blast music where I can hear it across the street when I have headphones on, I should also have the legal power to veto bad songs they play

[high haven]

literally this

it should be normalized for people to be able to shout

"SKIP"

[tardy rain]

Run up to them and skip it for them

[high haven]

nah

crossing the street means you gotta fight traffic

[potent rapids]

Anyone got experience with both ultrawide and dual monitor?
I currently have a 24inch and wanna get either an ultrawide or two additional monitors for development and just day to day use, got 2 monitors at work

[high haven]

let me just bluetooth into their device

and skip it

[tardy rain]

Conviction in your step and you'll be fine

And if it escalates there's plenty of hands for everyone to catch

[high haven]

old gen bluetooth has like 10 ft range but new gen should let you get further

[tranquil iron]

if it has to go through a table, bt has like a 3 ft range

[high haven]

ye

but we're in an outside setting atm

[tranquil iron]

what is this "outside" you speak of?

[tardy rain]

Its where grass is

[tranquil iron]

wow, everyone outside must be stoned all the time!

[acoustic moss]

sure theres rocks too

[tardy rain]

Rocks and stones and boulders

[acoustic moss]

im not just a rock baby im a boulder

[grave cove]

[acoustic moss]

wonder if anyone gets the reference

[high haven]

[foggy jungle]

I have risen from the dead, gamers. Late night last night

[tranquil iron]

that's astounding

[jaunty wraith]

you have only yourself to blame

[foggy jungle]

I have Stickie to blame.

They dragged me into the worst CTF I've ever done.

[tranquil iron]

what is CTF?

[foggy jungle]

Capture the Flag

[tranquil iron]

oh. yeah, you shouuld blame Stickie

[jaunty wraith]

worst in what sense

[foggy jungle]

I spent all night brute forcing permutations of a very large number.

It's called CursedCTF.

I know very little about it.

But it is indeed cursed.

[tranquil iron]

I don't understand

[jaunty wraith]

apt name then

[foggy jungle]

What don't you understand?

[tranquil iron]

the cursed nature of CTF and its relation to Stickie

[jaunty wraith]

stickie like ctfs and cursed stuff

[foggy jungle]

CTF's are (typically, but... loosely in this case) a set of Cybersecurity-focused challenges.
Stickie tried one, and invited me to help them.
I enjoy CTF's.
Stickie did not... elaborate on just how cursed cursed is.

[tranquil iron]

so it was a matter of misaligned expectations?

[foggy jungle]

...

Anyway, here's Wonderwall.

[tranquil iron]

it's all yellow

[jaunty wraith]

rude

[foggy jungle]

Gonna yoink that though, cause CTF's are kinda no-no to discuss until comp is over.

But that should convey the appropriate 'cursed' factor.

[tranquil iron]

have you considered having a nice cuppa?

[violet mural]

I'm in

[tranquil iron]

great, I'll put the kettle on

I am the only one who thinks that too many people get all worked up and upset to no purpose?

[high haven]

🥴

[high haven]

gimme

actually i have some coffee

so im good lol

[high haven]

im much more chill irl than online

[tranquil iron]

you're pretty chill online too, brah

[high haven]

brah

ok good

i like to think ive mellowed out

i dont think i wouldve liked even

5 years ago me

[tranquil iron]

lol. I definitely don't like people that are like me. but I like myself just fine. since, you know, I don't have to talk to myself.

[uneven ingot]

@wraith hound

sorry for the ping, but it seems interesting how did you do that i liked it a lot

i installed both
obsidian and latex

but i think that's not the latex you use

i was looking for internet but not found anything related

[wraith hound]

usually to compile latex pdfs i use xelatex

but obsidian has a builtin thing to render latex math

[uneven ingot]

so you have all from obsidian

like an extention

i feel really dumb

[wraith hound]

put double dollars before and after

[uneven ingot]

aight but it doesnt seems like yours

[wraith hound]

that means there's an error

oh you're missing the \begin{align}

[young shoal]

align* >

[wraith hound]

what's the diff?

[uneven ingot]

aight thanks hahahaha its looks small but thanks

[young shoal]

align* doesn't have numbers for the lines

though, it seems obsidian is just ignoring them anyway lol

[wraith hound]

oh

that explains why katex was showing numbers

[uneven ingot]

do you know how to re-size the formula to looks bigger?

[young shoal]

i don't know how obsidian works, but I assume it uses the font size of your other text

[young shoal]

a few environments are like that

[uneven ingot]

what apps do you use

[young shoal]

for what

[uneven ingot]

idk hahahaha

daily

[young shoal]

???

spotify

[uneven ingot]

ohhh i like that one

[naive halo]

does anyone know the difference for power draw on the ryzen 7 5800x3d and ryzen 7 2700x?

[violet mural]

someone knows something more hurtful than my life that I can read?

[young shoal]

king lear

[muted meadow]

@rough jetty please let me dm you i have sth to say ill leave if you want me to, however please just listen to what i have to say once

[molten nexus]

If I punch a wasp, does it die? Please I need answers

[lament cairn]

presumably

hopefully

[small coral]

if it doesn't i think you have to run

[lament cairn]

#python-discussion message @wooden lagoon 😬 have you tried disabling images and gifs in settings? Most discord crashers work by sending weird gifs/videos

[violet mural]

why class cereal?

[rough sapphire]

god why is coding chess so hard

[young shoal]

wow you really captioned that image

[gritty zinc]

only partially

where source code

[rough sapphire]

i didn't caption it

not my code

[tranquil iron]

what's hard about it?

[honest pawn]

Ah, I see what you did wrong
You need to continue checking each position after the 1st move

[violet mural]

what[

[honest pawn]

Not enough if statements

[gritty kernel]

obsidian user