@rugged root w h y
#voice-chat-text-0
sick cloud
whole bear
!e ```a, b = 0, 1
while a < 10:
print('fuck u')
a, b = b, a+b
wise cargoBOT
@whole bear :x: Your eval job timed out or ran out of memory.
001 | fuck u
002 | fuck u
003 | fuck u
004 | fuck u
005 | fuck u
006 | fuck u
007 | fuck u
008 | fuck u
009 | fuck u
010 | fuck u
011 | fuck u
... (truncated - too many lines)
Full output: too long to upload
sick cloud
why ?
wise glade
Opal got a nice voice, for voice acting, like voice acting for a documentary or something
cloud stratus
Opal got a nice voice, for voice acting, like voice acting for a documentary or ...
Indeed
sick cloud
xD
cloud stratus
Opal's voice is god-like
tepid plume
bruh
sick cloud
does every autralian sound like that ?
sick cloud
@somber heath nicee, one of the rare
cloud stratus
ok ok
whole bear
@wise glade hell yeah
cloud stratus
let's stop simping for opal
whole bear
๐
wise glade
morgan rules the documentary voice acting department
tepid plume
i think david attenborough is better than morgan
sick cloud
why laughing so much dude ?
wise glade
gonna grab some dinner, be right back ๐ฝ๏ธ
whole bear
i really dont gets the idea of raspberrry pi
wait for some month and phones will be faster than it
rasbian is the os name
for raspbeeri pi
sick cloud
10/10 names tbh
whole bear
my friend had one but beleive me it stinks and is slow for
sick cloud
yess, vim stuff
whole bear
coding
frigid panther
hey Hemlock o/
Just finished the aoc challenge for today
And I got a new headset, finally I can listen to music and code
whole bear
its quite slow according to the price but size wise its cool
lol your name is too funny for me @whole bear
stuck furnace
Someone learning Linux?
rugged root
@whole bear Yeah lets not have immature spamming of "fuck u" via our bot. Or at all
whole bear
sorry sir!!!!
]\
fierce summit
Someone learning Linux?
Yeah, I'm gonna get a raspberry pi 400 for Christmas
stuck furnace
Ah nice.
cloud stratus
@rugged root will you get discarded if you can't solve the problem of today in the advent of code?
stuck furnace
Yeah, I'm gonna get a raspberry pi 400 for Christmas
You could participate in this: https://linuxupskillchallenge.com
It runs every month. I was going to do it last month but didn't have the time. ๐
stoic ore
hey Bura
cloud stratus
I feel you
rugged root
sick cloud
rly
whole notch
Looks like he's in his 20s.
sick cloud
blue eyes....
stuck furnace
So if you want to stay young forever, just become the lead singer of an 80s pop band.
sick cloud
finally my $help command is working
nah. it was gving me errors
which says that there can't be more than 1024 words in an embed
frigid panther
yes?
for?
sure...
I might not be the best to ask, lol
maybe mark
this is what I do:
- go through code (without testing).
- test
- go through code (with testing).
- look for places to improve efficiency
sick cloud
- make the code look clearner
frigid panther
I wonder why python standard gitignore does not include IDE files, like .idea, .vscode, etc
unkempt berry
hi
i have a following simple method to execute tasks
def execute_async_tasks(tasks: list)->list:
loop = asyncio.new_event_loop()
asyncio.set_event_loop(loop)
results = asyncio.gather(*tasks.copy())
loop.run_until_complete(results)
loop.close()
return results.result()
lets say i define them one single time:
tasks = [some_class_with_async_methods.do_some_method()]
how do i prevent coros in tasks list from awaiting so i could re-launch
execute_async_tasks(tasks)
and dont get
RuntimeError: cannot reuse already awaited coroutine
tx
sick cloud
a moment of silence
frigid panther
is
sick cloud
not
frigid panther
Oh yea, other languages, time to do the same in javascript now
stuck furnace
.aoc subscribe @frigid panther
frigid panther
yep just read the #announcements ๐
stuck furnace
Yeah, I had to ask Joe ๐
frigid panther
I decided to open an aoc202 repo on my github
too much work from private > public > private ... .
Alright, I will do that from tomorrow
Just don't look at it.
stuck furnace
Just looking at the bot repository... J. Christ is a contributor? ๐
rugged root
somber heath
frigid panther
output does not matter, as long as you understand which is the first and second result
output is only for you
everyone gets different inputs
damn, you're quite old
frozen oasis
well i am mute now
frigid panther
I don't even remember, lol
frigid panther
who plays zelda games here?
frozen oasis
nah im not that old
frozen oasis
isnt breath of the wild the newest one?
frigid panther
not really @rugged root, in hyrule warr, they win against ganon
oops, spoiler
its a new timeline btw
frigid panther
just get the master sword, hemlock
frozen oasis
i used to play a lot, but well i have to study
frigid panther
I remember fighting a lynel and then going back to the save before fighting the lynel cuz I broke too many weapons while fighting him
and lynel weapons are not very good
it still a zelda game, it just opens a new timeline in the story
2021 is 35th anniversary of zelda
botw 2 is coming in 2021
wise glade
i seriously love python. I created a multiprocessing program, which monitor changes in multiple files at the same time, and take action acc to those changes also concurrently. ๐ never made something like this before
frigid panther
cool
I remember doing something similar, when I had to rename a bunch of minecraft uuid files to their minecraft usernames
wise glade
ur going to the wedding aren't you dragon ๐
wise glade
but using asyncio
not true multiprocessing in python
frigid panther
yep
stuck furnace
Just realised I was sitting in the dark.
Was too engrossed in what I was doing to notice the sun going down ๐
frigid panther
must be a beautiful sight
wise glade
is it possible for my scripts to automatically include an import statement in themselves?
stuck furnace
Not sure what you mean @wise glade
wise glade
the very first import statement, I didn't write it when I wrote this script, but now it appears evrytime when I run the entire program which runs this script at a certain point
i mean, if I wanted to import that first line, I would've written from InternalWorkingScripts import createcomponent_txt, not that subfolder version
I have put appropriate imports in __init__.py of those modules
not that it is crashing my program or anything, just something I noticed
maybe its VSCode doing something
stuck furnace
Yeah, sounds like the something the IDE would do.
wise glade
hey Opal, why do you come to this Off-Topic voice channel? ( not that its a bad thing, please come tommorrow as well, your explanation are easy to understand )
frigid panther
you could become a good anime/cartoon voice actor, lol @rugged root
maybe you can do it as a hobby
glossy cipher
@rugged root I have a question, regarding a Python issue i'm having. Where can I ask that question? In the chemical Help channels?
frigid panther
rugged root
Yeah you'd want to check out the #- that
What he said
That'll help you get started using the help system
glossy cipher
Neat. Thanks guys ๐
wise glade
anyone of u ever try using your old laptop's lcd screen as a second monitor with your current pc?
frigid panther
it don't connect it to my pc but I do run youtube on it while I am gaming/coding on my pc
wise glade
oh, srry, I forgot to mention, the old laptop's dead, motherboard fried
glossy cipher
anyone of u ever try using your old laptop's lcd screen as a second monitor with...
Yes, I did.
You're having an issue with connecting it?
wise glade
Yes, I did.
with controller & everything?
glossy cipher
Well, I bought the VGA controller from eBay and just connected it to the screen.
wise glade
no I have an old laptop, motherboard cooked, but lcd still works, so I thought i'll use a controller for that lcd
contoller comes around 24-30$ on ebay
glossy cipher
Ah, that's easy.
wise glade
what's the cost of a new monitor?
glossy cipher
Yea, basically you need to buy the controller (since the motherboard, that in your case is cooked) and just hook it up.
glossy cipher
15.6, full HD would be nearly 100-200$.
wise glade
yeah, super long tablet
glossy cipher
Tablet? The touchscreen 15.6inch screens are pretty expensive.
rugged root
Sorry he's reacting to me in voice
wise glade
yeah, mine isn't touch
wise glade
Tablet? The touchscreen 15.6inch screens are pretty expensive.
yeah, u not hearing him?
rugged root
I just realized I'm probably confusing things
glossy cipher
I am not in the channel. I'm listening to a podcast ๐
rugged root
Ooo which one
glossy cipher
The only one i know: https://realpython.com/podcasts/rpp/
frigid panther
my new headset has 3.5mm jack for both input and output, I need a splitter if I want to use it with my pc, waiting on that
then I can talk
glossy cipher
Is that a comedy one?
rugged root
Comedic AND informative!
glossy cipher
I have free time, i'll check them out after the one i'm listening now. Thanks man ๐
rugged root
No problem! If you're familiar with and like the British show QI, you'll love it
wise glade
is it functional_programming, if one of my function's working depend on weather some other function before it has already executed or not. For eg. if I made a func2() , but its proper execution depends on weather func1() has already executed or not? Otherwise these two func's follow all the rules of functional_programming
polar remnant
awe i cant talk
wise glade
ah, ok got it
stuck furnace
Yes, this would not be an example of a pure function.
Due to dependence on state outside the arguments.
stuck furnace
See in #voice-verification for verification instructions.
polar remnant
I got ya. I joined bc I was wondering if someone could help me with understanding classes in python
stuck furnace
I vaguely remember some urban legend about licking envelopes ๐
polar remnant
thats ok!
frigid panther
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/303906556754395136/646781135346466844
this is hemlock explaining classes, I read it loooong back
I had it in the dm
polar remnant
can i inv you to a dm call later?
frigid panther
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/267624335836053506/653963039359631381
this is recent I guess This covers properties
polar remnant
fair enough. in the mean time ill be working on my linked in course haha
wise glade
can someone tell me about most useful dunders? I know __enter__(), exit(), iter(), next(), that's it
polar remnant
im trying to learn as much as i can for an interview i may or may not get O_o
frigid panther
__str__, __repr__
stuck furnace
@wise glade __enter__ and __exit__ are cool.
frigid panther
enter and exit for custom context managers
polar remnant
what are dunders?
wise glade
`__str__`, `__repr__`
yeah, these, I have text for these, I can read, thanks for reminding
stuck furnace
Oh, you said that 
Here's the full list: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#special-method-names
wise glade
so enter(), exit(), next(), iter(), str(), repr(), anything else?
stuck furnace
Jinx ๐
frigid panther
I was a bit slower, you win lxnn
ripe torrent
HI folks
polar remnant
do you guys recommend any courses on linked in to learn oop or python in general
stuck furnace
rugged root
!resources
wise cargoBOT
frigid panther
corey ms video
ripe torrent
!resources
wise cargoBOT
frigid panther
I will be back after dinner
wise glade
dozo( japanese) => please go ahead
wise glade
jag's back
pure path
can someone tell me about most useful dunders? I know `__enter__(), exit(), iter...
__eq__
__lt__
__add__
__sub__
__len__
__getitem__
__conditions__
ah maic
rugged root
__init__
ripe torrent
magic*
pure path
`__init__`
I think they would know about init if they know about the ones such as __enter__ __exit__,
that's why didn't mention it
wise glade
dunder = double underscores
ripe torrent
polar remnant
whats the point about having this:
pure path
getitem is the one that i find the most cool
stuck furnace
__getattr__ is cool. It's called if an attribute isn't found the usual way.
ripe torrent
Rust is lit
stuck furnace
LSP?
wise glade
if __name__== '__main__' is the main script section, which runs the whole program right? if there are many scripts in the program, we should have on main.py or something script, which contains this, and runs the entire thing.
( I think ?)
ripe torrent
go ahead please
wise glade
so if __name__ == '__main__' only runs if this script runs the very first time?
rugged root
@main galleon You'll likely have to do py -m pip install <module here>
stuck furnace
@wise glade When you import a module, its __name__ is its filename without the .py, but when you do python myscript.py the __name__ is '__main__'
wise glade
@rugged root try Yoga, its quite big in my country for depressions etc.
rugged root
What OS are you on?
polar remnant
so what does the self thing mean and when do i pass it
rugged root
Then something isn't installed quite right
cloud stratus
You pass self when you are defining a function inside a class @polar remnant
rugged root
You'll want to get a fresh installer from https://python.org
stuck furnace
wise glade
thank you
rugged root
class Student:
def __init__(self, name, favorite_subject, grade):
self.name = name
self.favorite_subject = favorite_subject
self.grade = grade
def study(self):
print(f"I love studying {self.favorite_subject}.")
def eat_lunch(self):
print("Yuck! Meatloaf again!")
def introduce(self):
print(f"My name is {self.name} and I am in {self.grade} grade.")
billy = Student("Billy", "Math", "6th")
sally = Student("Sally", "Science", "5th")
billy.introduce()
Student.introduce(billy)
polar remnant
i am here
polar remnant
you know c++?
yea
rugged root
def study(self):
print(f"I love studying {self.favorite_subject}.")
# when I do
billy.study()
def study(billy):
print(f"I love studying {billy.favorite_subject}.")
but not much on the oop side
wise glade
self is this pointer when an object access some class function
polar remnant
but not much on the oop side
trying to learn oop and python at the same time
wise glade
but still kinda same no?
I mean, this is a pointer to the object, and so is self it represent the calling object
srry, don't know JS
ripe torrent
yes
polar remnant
i think so
got ya
well cya later mate
thanks for all the help
haha fair enough
people should pay yall
i am compluhcated
wise glade
don't give em any wierd ideas ๐, I'm broke
vestal badge
somber heath
@vestal badge No. ๐
polar remnant
time is important!
wise glade
they're not bots ๐
ripe torrent
thats lit
polar remnant
interesting. it can definitely happen!
ripe torrent
thats an amazing thought
ripe torrent
but opal is next level human
polar remnant
no way
wise glade
@somber heath you were telling me about why multiprocessing programs always need to be run inside if __name__=='__main__()' earlier, right? please tell me one more time. I don't know why it is so
polar remnant
he shits too>
sick cloud
what r we talking about ?
stuck furnace
polar remnant
well anyway, im going to back to watching linked vids on python. ill prob be nack later with questions
wise glade
u're talkin about Elon Musk right? ๐
somber heath
@wise glade You open a module and run it. Its __name__ is '__main__'. When multiprocessing spawns processes, which are of the same module again, their __name__ is not '__main__'. You don't want your child processes running the code which spawns child processes.
ripe torrent
Can we bring realpython mods here ?
wise glade
@stuck furnace so if my script has ```py
if name == 'main()':
pass
this exactly. So it won't run if imported, but will run if `python3 script.py` done on it?Ah, not quite.
When you run or import a python script, it is executed line-by-line.
wise glade
so instead of pass, i need to put the functions inside i don't want imported running done to?
stuck furnace
But the code inside if __name__ == '__main__()': will only be run if you run the script directly (rather than import it).
wise glade
but can I just put pass inside this section, to make it work
stuck furnace
The code you posted wont do anything.
wise glade
like ```py
lot of functions
#now in the end
if name == 'main':
pass
now wil these functions( lot of functions) run if imported from this script?Say you have a script called myscript.py: ```python
print('hello')
if main == 'name':
print('world')
All i read is this
stuck furnace
If you do python myscript.py it will print hello and world
But if you do import myscript from another module, it will print just hello.
wise glade
in the end it says, if the module is imported the code is not run?
wise glade
But if you do `import myscript` from another module, it will print just `hello`.
oh, ok got it, so whatever's inside, that just won't run,everything else is not affected
stuck furnace
Ah, there's still sites like MIT OCW @whole bear
Although that's a shame. I was planning to have a look at that site.
whole bear
wise glade
<@735485653902557204> You open a module and run it. Its `__name__` is `'__main__...
i seriously didn't understand this at all. When multiprocessing spawns processes, which are of the same module again, their __name__ is not '__main__', why? is their name the process-id pid, when multiprocessing spawns process?
(I mean nt the "pid" but the integer number process-id )
polar remnant
so the answer is the first option. i understand that you have 2 arguments but why does rates have a * in front of it?
somber heath
import multiprocessing
def square(v):
return v**2
def main():
#This function won't end up being called when child processes are spawned, though it will still get defined.
nums = [i for i in range(20)]
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(square, nums)
print(data)
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()```
amber raptor
Chillin can be a great way to lose money
wise glade
by child process, you mean square()? @somber heath
wise glade
oh, you mean, this function main() won't be called if some other script imports from this script
somber heath
Correct.
stuck furnace
brb
wise glade
so its a bad thing, it won't get called, because?
somber heath
You don't want it to be called on import.
You can call it if you want.
But it won't call it automatically like if I just had main() in the root indentation.
wise glade
why not on import? is it a bad thing, if a multiprocssing.pool() having method gets called in imports?
I get it why won't it be called, since it is inside the if __name__ section
somber heath
It's probably not something you want to have happen, correct.
wise glade
so it won't be called again and again on every import
spawing multiple process pools?
cause threads & cores are limited
somber heath
All if name in main, etc, is for is when you don't want something to run when it's being imported or being spawned as a child process.
native nebula
opal baby
somber heath
Not your baby. ๐
native nebula
im sorry
wise glade
ok, so multiprocessing pools containing methods can be imported by 1000 scripts, and executed, which isn't something good i can imagine, since we have limited cores/threads
so we just make it un-importable
native nebula
opal you were the first person i ever talked to in this discord, ily
somber heath
I'm not sure it actually does exponentially spawn threads, but it does kind of...break.
wise glade
yeah, I mean, race conditions, dead-lock, stuff might happen
somber heath
It's what you do to make it work.
native nebula
does anyone know a good place to learn rust?
somber heath
Race conditions aren't so much an issue in multiprocessing as they are in threading
wise glade
so its like a law, that should be obeyed for proper functioning
somber heath
Yah.
wise glade
Race conditions aren't so much an issue in multiprocessing as they are in thread...
why not? can't multiple processes access a same file and modify it at the same time, without checking weather some other process modified it first?
is it blocked, that multiple process can't acess the same file
I have'nt tried it yet
somber heath
Because processes don't share memory except where you pass special objects to them.
wise glade
i remember, u were saying yesterday, that windows doesn't allow this to happen
wise glade
Because processes don't share memory except where you pass special objects to th...
so if 2 process open the same file, they create a copy of that file for themselves to work on it?
somber heath
In threading, referring to a variable from one thread uses the same object in memory as another thread referring to the same variable name.
wise glade
I guess I'll read those 3 concurrent programming books one more time, for a more comprehensive understanding
maybe not the third one (asyncio), haven't found any use of it at all
somber heath
In multiprocessing, it's entirely different instances of the Python interpreter that are running.
So the memory, and what variables refer to what objects in memory, isn't shared
Working with files is different.
wise glade
In multiprocessing, it's entirely different instances of the Python interpreter ...
but, they can still acess the same file, to work on?
file contents
abc
process 1 does -> ```
abcdef
process 2 does ->```
abcghi
it overwrites the process1 work, but should've waited for process 1 to finish
somber heath
Files...yeah, that's kind of another discussion.
wise glade
in threads, we use locks to avoid this, but process don't have that
somber heath
Yeah. They should.
wise glade
Files...yeah, that's kind of another discussion.
if its a long discussion, then please don't explain, I'll learn along the way of my learning
livid drift
does any of you guys have experience with pubnub?
wise glade
thank you opal, I've made u type enough for a long time srry
somber heath
Yeah. multiprocessing.Lock. You can pass an instance of it via the initargs parameter in at least Pool.
wise glade
Files + Multiprocessing is a nice knowledge to have, but seems like I won't be using it practically for now
yeah, I gotta read those books one more time, for solid grasp, of these concepts
Quan Nguyen - Mastering Concurrency in Python-Packt (2018) and
Elliot Forbes - Learning Concurrency in Python_ Build highly efficient, robust, and concurrent applications-Packt Publishing (2017)
somber heath
@wise glade It's technically a separate object in memory in each process, I think, but you can think of it as shared.
wise glade
second one had a lot of examples
wise glade
yeah, they used multiprocessing.Queue() a lot for intreprocess communications
not so much focus on the pipes
maybe its getting depreciated or something with time
somber heath
Less fiddlefarting around with parsing the info out.
There would still be a good use for Pipe.
Streaming data, maybe.
wise glade
thank you, as always easy explanations, gonna go finish some work then to bed, good night
severe pulsar
somber heath
@wise glade In the interests of being honest...I just ran a test and all of my child objects called themselves '__main__', so I don't really know what the deal is, there.
I always have more to learn.
frigid panther
where did everyone go
wise cargoBOT
:x: According to my records, this user already has a mute infraction. See infraction #22372.
dreamy copper
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hushed elm
hello @sick cloud
hushed elm
really good, how about you @sick cloud
sick cloud
really good, how about you <@!759129467414380554>
i'm great, tmr is my last exam
sick cloud
gl <@!759129467414380554>
thx
cloud stratus
Hi
severe elm
tranquil barn
ripe torrent
Django is confusing af to me
amber raptor
Then donโt use it, itโs old style of web development anyways
hushed elm
@stuck furnace WE LOVE YOU
sick cloud
is that jupyter notebook ?
tranquil barn
Erm, okay
cloud stratus
Erm
stuck furnace
Alright ๐
hushed elm
u cool
tranquil barn
Alright ๐
Aight
frigid panther
hemlock, which reddit command do you like more? @viscid lagoon or @wise cargo
whole bear
better is being a noob and acting as a pro among people like @somber heath
rugged root
Uhhhh I'd have to look
frigid panther
rugged root
I kind of like the latter more
frigid panther
I will implement pagination regardless of the style tho
fallow shuttle
How are you guys doing?
frigid panther
okay
whole bear
@rugged root how long has it been with python?
frigid panther
try the reddit command in #sir-lancebot-playground
for a subreddit which can have images/videos
whole bear
this is super inspiring @native nebula
me being @16 dont know any hell and waste my time in this server
cloud stratus
me being @16 dont know any hell and waste my time in this server
Me too!
whole bear
do u want me to die or something
hushed elm
?
i'm saying it could have been worse, being 40 and thinking you're wasting time
it's also not waste of time, you get to talk to interesting people on the server
rugged root
What's got you stuck?
hushed elm
ur not stupid, docs are hard to read if you don't know much
whole bear
im a super procastinator
rugged root
Nobody looks at documentation the first time (or even second, third, fourth, etc.) and knows what's going on
cloud stratus
Everyone is
hushed elm
and it's destroying my life lol
whole bear
and i skip it and come to this server to hangout
frigid panther
I have been procrastinating a lot after I got my new PC, lol
cloud stratus
Indeed, it's gonna destroy my university career
frigid panther
I like docs
hushed elm
ewww wtf
frigid panther
I consider django and dpy docs one of the best
hemlock, did you test the reddit commands
rugged root
I did
whole bear
i guess from tomoorow i wont come to server unless i dont complete docs
frigid panther
you dont have to complete docs
whole bear
or else ill endup being idiot
rugged root
The @viscid lagoon doesn't quite get the proper "hot" list
whole bear
programmer
frigid panther
The <@!528937022996611082> doesn't quite get the proper "hot" list
thats the API problem ๐
whole bear
docs are like my tutorials
frigid panther
it randomly selects out of 25 fetched posts
rugged root
Then yeah, after seeing that the Lance one shows/indicates content, I'm happier with that
Ah, weird
candid venture
@hollow haven
frigid panther
Sometimes, I feel that my life would have been better if I had gone into fields other than programming/involving programming
sports, or any cultural activities
whole bear
i am more into hacking but good hackers know good languages
frigid panther
for all those gamers out there, steam sale ends today
whole bear
and also i have got some projects in my mind for college apps
frigid panther
college apps?
rugged root
I legit thought he said "MLP" instead of "NLP" and I was trying to figure out what ponies had to do with it
whole bear
as part of ecs
hushed elm
haaah
tranquil barn
I legit thought he said "MLP" instead of "NLP" and I was trying to figure out wh...
๐
rugged root
I've literally just glazed over during all this
frigid panther
btw, just wondering, how would multiple off-topic voice channels do?
rugged root
I mean it's interesting
I just don't understand any of it
Also we rarely have need for a second one, @stuck furnace
Wait
Ice
I meant Ice
stuck furnace
Alright
frigid panther
I think they can move to code/help?
rugged root
What's the use case?
hushed elm
autokeras @native nebula ?
rugged root
I feel like I'm missing something
stuck furnace
Also, this is a pretty good introduction to text classification: http://www.nltk.org/book/ch06.html
@hushed elm
hushed elm
oh, ty @stuck furnace
whole bear
bye guys ill make sure next time i message here or talk i have gained a hold on python!
rugged root
Sounds good!
sick cloud
@rugged root some time, it doesn't feel right
rugged root
What Is the Difference Between condescending and patronizing?
Very few words in English have exactly the same meaning; even words which appear to be entirely synonymous often will be found to have small differences in certain contexts. The words condescending and patronizing present a fine example of this. At first glance these words appear to be defined somewhat circularly: condescending often has the word "patronizing" in its definition, and patronize is defined, in part, as โto adopt an air of condescension toward.โ
But both of these words have specialized senses that lend a shade of meaning to their synonymous senses. Patronizing can mean "giving support to" or "being a customer of," suggesting that the "condescending" sense implies superiority gained through a donor-dependent relationship.
The verb condescend used to be free of any hint of the offensive superiority it usually suggests today. It could mean literally "to go or come down" or, figuratively, "to willingly lower oneself to anotherโs level," senses that are still occasionally encountered in writings on the Bible. The idea of self-consciously lowering oneself is implied in the "patronizing" sense of condescending.
It lets you do a binary search on the commit history
Never used it ๐
But it seems cool.
Erm, not really. I did a NLP course at university.
But... I didn't graduate ๐
Oh yes. That's what I linked to earlier.
Pretty much the same @rugged root ๐
hushed elm
so you didn't like it
stuck furnace
I actually liked it, but it took a long time to settle in
and by that point I'd fallen way behind with everything.
hushed elm
aah
stuck furnace
Then I had a year where I was sick for the whole first semester.
And then I was like, I quit.
I went kayaking with the flu and got pneumonia ๐
stuck furnace
Not a smart move ๐
hushed elm
nope
stuck furnace
I also nearly drowned because... I don't know how to kayak.
hushed elm
uffff
arrr
pirates around here
mods!
@stuck furnace im glad you're not dead lol
hope you don't have permanent lung damage
wise cargoBOT
Hey @tranquil barn!
rugged root
!rule 5
wise cargoBOT
gilded rivet
stuck furnace
Has anyone read the python Cookbook?
rugged root
I think I have
austere linden
Nice to meet y'all once again @rugged root @stuck furnace @gilded rivet
austere linden
https://www.target.com/p/fluent-python-2nd-edition-by-luciano-ramalho-paperback/...
Why pay for the book, when I can download it for free eh...
rugged root
Not much, 'bout you?
austere linden
Learning Data Science and Java...
Not a good combination. I am a complete mess right now
stuck furnace
Free book: http://composingprograms.com
stuck furnace
I'm such a slow reader
Yeah, writing a textbook is a real undertaking.
Literally hundreds of hours of work.
Got to go...
๐
austere linden
Peace Dude!!
stoic ore
Got to go work tomorrow se u guys
hushed elm
morning @somber heath
rugged root
tranquil barn
rugged root
somber heath
@hushed elm yoy
hushed elm
yoyoyo
rugged root
frigid panther
hemlock, #help-apple is ghosted
rugged root
Cheers
sick cloud
what r we talking about ?
prisma ivy
Idek
sick cloud
lol
prisma ivy
Im hiring people for my agency, anyone interested?
rugged root
!rule 4
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
prisma ivy
lmfao
rugged root
There we go
prisma ivy
I can speak fucking english
rugged root
I know, which is why I said "wrong one"
rugged root
But yeah, we don't allow trying to recruit people for work
prisma ivy
is there any chat I can use for recruiting people?
rugged root
There is not, no Xav
graceful grail
lol @tiny seal
rugged root
Yeah let's not be rude
tiny seal
Yeah let's not be rude
It was ment as with some sarcastic / joke value
rugged root
Still rude
tiny seal
ok I'm sorry
whole bear
hi
prisma ivy
hi
whole bear
hi
graceful grail
hi
whole bear
hows life?
amber raptor
whole bear
๐คก
whole bear
To speak in voice that one of the conditions are that i need to send 50 messages
prisma ivy
yikes
whole bear
wish me luck
good luck
whole bear
oh waity
graceful grail
whole bear
are most people in this server students or people in work?
graceful grail
@somber heath nice answers ๐
somber heath
False.
graceful grail
noice
tiny seal
["yes", "no", "Maybe"]```lol
whole bear
funny
hushed elm
[5]
whole bear
If i spam this chat to get my 50 messages will i get booted/banned?
rugged root
Voice banned yes
graceful grail
spam yes
graceful grail
lol
frigid panther
who else forgets to drink water while programming
graceful grail
me
whole bear
...
graceful grail
I forget to eat too!!!
rugged root
Talk to people, ask for help or give help in a help channel, check out the topical channels and see if there's one interesting to you, or even talk in the off-topic channels
whole bear
answers = ["yes","no","maybe"]
for answer in answers:
print(answer)
It's easy to organically hit the limit by just interacting with people
frigid panther
I forget to eat too!!!
I forget to sleep 
graceful grail
that too
tiny seal
answers = ["yes","no","maybe"]
for answer in asnwers:
await ctx.send(answer)
@rugged root ty for the advice
frigid panther
I guess I will head to bed now, gn all
graceful grail
good night @frigid panther
whole bear
@frigid panther
rugged root
Work in finance in what way?
whole bear
financial reporting/analysis
rugged root
Ah, I don't fit then. I'm Administrative Support at an accounting firm. I don't do any analysis for us
whole bear
fair enough, thanks anyway
graceful grail
whole bear
its just that i am looking for a way to automate alot of the reports that are generated
rugged root
I mean we can still likely help
whole bear
excel is currently used (very basic i know)
rugged root
Doesn't necessarily need to be someone who works in that sector
graceful grail
@cedar kettle congrats on being a new helper ๐
whole bear
```python
answers = ["yes","no","maybe"]
for answer in asnwers:
await ctx.send...
import discord
from discord.ext import commands
client = commands.Bot(command_prefix="$")
answers = ["yes","no","maybe"]
@client.event
async def on_ready():
print("Bot Ready")
@client.command(aliases=["answer","answers","programmer-answers"])
async def _answer(ctx):
ctx.send(". ".join(answers))
@whole bear What kind of data are you working with? Are you just wanting to process it or store it or what
sick cloud
||the house on the left is my home||, jk
tiny seal
```py
import discord
from discord.ext import commands
client = commands.Bot(comm...
aight you win for now cuz I have math homework to do. But i'll do you one better later
tiny seal
bring it on
hushed elm
lol @sick cloud
graceful grail
All you have to do is spam the captcha with the phrase... "I am for sure a robot."
prisma ivy
lmao
stuck furnace
It's definitely not a film made for modern attention spans ๐
prisma ivy
The bot will be placed on my site and you will have to answer a question that only the admins will know or staff
that work there know*
and ofc a normal captcha phrase
whole bear
@rugged root ill get back to you on that one, i assume storage, in that case would a data warehouse or something be required? As far as I know the type of data is typical financial accounting data e.g. PLs, income statements
rugged root
Database, yeah
noble copper
its better with an ORM
prisma ivy
ye
noble copper
i've been using sql-alchemy recently for graphql support
wish more ORMs could do that
hushed elm
nutt
prisma ivy
I thought that said pornhub
whole bear
Dont really think this is relevant to this channel but is anyone familiar with PowerBI the visualisation tool?
noble copper
paradoxically
whole bear
I just know alot of companies want to adopt powerBI as their tool for reporting
rugged root
I'll have to look into that, I'd never heard of it before
hushed elm
amber raptor
Hemlock, itโs Office365 feature
rugged root
Oh nifty
somber heath
Minimalistic and elegant.
hushed elm
i wish it was my photo lol
noble copper
its so satisfying
hushed elm
digital jackal
how can i fix my keyreccording/keylogger not saving in the destinated file
gentle flint
whole bear
Hi guys
it's me plus the programmer
Now i'm learning about tkinter
which is a python gui module
easy convenient module
everyone should try it
Don't fall sleep
tata
hushed elm
byee
whole bear
so I'm learning about dbms so do i need to know them in generl like the data model or i just learn sql
I'm new to database so i don't know much
but i'm doing research
but it would be nice if someone help me out
if you don't know , it's absolutely fine. I have no problems
stuck furnace
Everyone is buying everyone right now it seems ๐
noble copper
don't think i've used any salesforce product, but it would suck having to pay for slack
but there's always discord
stuck furnace
Erm, I was doing that earlier...
But now I can't remember how I did it
@rugged root could you do timeit("exec(open('myfile.py').read())")? ๐
Thanks
Oh yeah.
Erm, open and read it into a string first?
Also in bash you can just do time python myscript.py
Although it will only be run once.
Ah right
amber raptor
I just think Salesforce makes no sense
whole rover
yes same
stuck furnace
Yep
Although, you can do something like this:
first, second, *rest = myset
Yeah ๐
But realised it didn't make sense
Check out my PFP
Had to download GIMP
Does powershell have hash-tables? ๐
scarlet drift
what's advent of code?
stuck furnace
@scarlet drift check out #782989161552543785
It's an event that runs each year. You get a new problem to solve each day in December.
scarlet drift
It's an event that runs each year. You get a new problem to solve each day in De...
oh nice
stuck furnace
Just started today but today's problem doesn't count towards your final score.
scarlet drift
Just started today but today's problem doesn't count towards your final score.
yeah I was checking that out
amber raptor
Itโs rejecting valid solution
scarlet drift
Just started today but today's problem doesn't count towards your final score.
I can join the event anytime right?
instead of joining on the first day I mean
scarlet drift
Yeah show the code
stuck furnace
Put it in a paste bin then put the link in a spoiler tag ๐
scarlet drift
On mine it says 0.6s, but I am running it on MacOS.
you can run powershell scripts on macos?
tiny seal
scarlet drift
I'm trying to run it on some online powershell interpreteer LOL
stuck furnace
Oh right. Yeah I'm not fancy enough to own an M1 mac yet.
scarlet drift
Oh right. Yeah I'm not fancy enough to own an M1 mac yet.
I'm waiting for developer tools to smooth out
my mac says command not found when I enter powershell in the terminal LOL
scarlet drift
ah
scarlet drift
life safer huh
stuck furnace
I think instead of an exit flag you can do something like this:
scarlet drift
does django have something like flask dash?
for dashboards?
actually never mind, discard that
stuck furnace
for cond1:
for cond2:
if thing:
break
else:
continue
break
Yeah
Yeah true ๐
That's the n^3
scarlet drift
It's like 3:47 AM here at my side lol
I should probably sleep as well but here I am making dashboards lol
stuck furnace
Yeah, it's nice.
It does things like combinations, permutations, cycles, etc.
The recipes at the end of the itertools docs are also pretty handy.
Reading the wikipedia article, apparently there's a solution to the second problem that uses ||the FFT|| ๐
scarlet drift
aight guys I'm hitting the sack, see you ๐
stuck furnace
I should go to bed too.
scarlet drift
I should go to bed too.
night man ๐
stuck furnace
See ya @scarlet drift @amber raptor
scarlet drift
See ya <@!548423386875953152> <@!113304266269003776>
you too man
somber heath
import multiprocessing
def f(v):
return __name__
if __name__ == '__main__':
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)```so opal what were you expecting as the output? [f, f, f, ....]?
neon sleet
should it be __main__ 10 times?
wise glade
I still have'nt my head wrapped around this whole if __name__ == '__main__' thing. Gotta read some material
somber heath
The __name__ from each process a few times. (If I had 8 cores or something I might have increased the range.)
neon sleet
!e
import multiprocessing
def f(v):
return __name__
if __name__ == '__main__':
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)
@neon sleet :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "<string>", line 7, in <module>
003 | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/multiprocessing/context.py", line 119, in Pool
004 | return Pool(processes, initializer, initargs, maxtasksperchild,
005 | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/multiprocessing/pool.py", line 191, in __init__
006 | self._setup_queues()
007 | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/multiprocessing/pool.py", line 343, in _setup_queues
008 | self._inqueue = self._ctx.SimpleQueue()
009 | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/multiprocessing/context.py", line 113, in SimpleQueue
010 | return SimpleQueue(ctx=self.get_context())
011 | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/multiprocessing/queues.py", line 342, in __init__
... (truncated - too many lines)
Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ziguxisare.txt
neon sleet
yes
why is it giving ['__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__']
what that mp there
wise glade
? not for me, it just give's __main__, 10 times
neon sleet
and if __name__ is __mp_main__, why is it if __name__ == '__main__' even executing?
wise glade
import multiprocessing
def f(v):
return __name__
if __name__ == '__main__':
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)
result ['__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__', '__main__']
bright lantern
s
wise glade
i don't really get it, what should be the output? 10 times f?
neon sleet
its giving me __mp_main__, why are you guys getting __main__
import multiprocessing
def f(v):
return __name__
print(__name__)
if __name__ == '__main__':
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)
__main__
__mp_main__
__mp_main__
['__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__', '__mp_main__']
@neon sleet is it an OS thing? you on windows?
faint ermine
import multiprocessing
a = __name__
def f(v):
return globals()["a"]
if __name__ == '__main__':
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)
Linux
neon sleet
@wise glade what os are you using?
wise glade
Linux
wise glade
I need to read more on if __name__ == '__main__() + multiprocessing, I can't follow up the conversation that much
neon sleet
would be a silly question, but why aren't you expecting f(v) to return __main__?
faint ermine
wise glade
omg this really works ```py
import multiprocessing
def f(v):
print(multiprocessing.Process().name)
return name
with multiprocessing.Pool() as pool:
data = pool.map(f, [*range(10)])
print(data)
I thought i would need if __name__ == '__main__' always, not on linux, as laundmo said
neon sleet
yip
hmm..... like I mean if if __name__ == '__main__' executes, it means __name__ is __main__ ?
wise glade
yeah, I rely on intellisense a lot, so can't really get it correct without it most of the time
neon sleet
hmm... I think I should start getting into multiprocessing
these parallel things always get me, these asyncio etc stuff
neon sleet
pickle..dump()
wise glade
๐ฑ
laundmo, can you recommend any material to learn more bout multiprocessing?
in python
don't say the docs please
faint ermine
wise glade
what is meaning of distributed systems?
A distributed system is a system whose components are located on different networked computers, which communicate and coordinate their actions by passing messages to one another.
so like Cloud Computing?
faint ermine
yea
wise glade
idk,
just less clutter, OCD maybe
yeah, ๐
so I guess I'll go for this for now Python Parallel Programming Cookbook: Over 70 Recipes to Solve Challenges in Multithreading and Distributed System with Python 3, 2nd Edition
gonna go grab lunch for now, by ๐
faint ermine
faint ermine
It is 2020 and you can have a coin sized web server with WiFi for less than $4. Very cool. I couldn't resist to build something with it. As a proof-of-concept I created this page.
whole bear
pls tell how python can make daily life easier?
does it depends upon what i wanna do with it?
do u play any mobile game?
๐
do u play among us?
oh nvm
among us is a game of partnership and betrayal
cloud stratus
Opal is a good citizen, he was in quarantine whole year
somber heath
umm <@!317279909112446976> u covid positive?
Nope.
cloud stratus
Lol yeah
mhm
My country is on lockdown n.n
Turkey
Haven't I told this before?
No I'm not!
Oh, yeah
Yes yes
Well kinda
whole bear
dont u have music bots here?
cloud stratus
Oh?
I mean, mods have their own reasons probably
Like why we can't share screen
Mhm ik
spiral seal
I mean, mods have their own reasons probably
certainly
whole bear
@somber heath describe your productive day
cloud stratus
It sounds like N word