open() is available by default, and it reads text freely. But if you want something more complicated (word files, json files, reading a lot of files) you get a wrapper yeah
#voice-chat-text-0
proud tangle
livid niche
but python doesnt mind printing plaintext files im guessing?
livid niche
open() is available by default, and it reads text freely. But if you want someth...
nice
proud tangle
json, gzip, zipfile, csv etc are all builtin imports
livid niche
which is faster, using pyjq or starting a subprocess to invoke jq?
livid niche
pyjq is pythons implementation of jq
proud tangle
regardless, pyjq will be much nicer to use
livid niche
jq is the shell program you use
livid niche
regardless, pyjq will be much nicer to use
i was curious which one would read a theoretical 100GB JSON file faster
proud tangle
....
livid niche
whats happening with email
livid niche
oh interesting.. pyjq is a C wrapper around jq
ah ok
proud tangle
Well, technically, I'm not sure. You'd have to test. Practically, it shouldn't matter so much
The subprocess interface will suck, which is why pyjq exists
however despite all that
Please
for the love of god
Dont use
100gb json files
as dictionaries
holy fuck
stop
please
it's already dead
livid niche
as dictionaries
i was thinking secret keeping
proud tangle
i was thinking secret keeping
just regular json and engaging with it should work. Or sqlite
json is fine for anything below ~100mb
above that we have orjson or something, but above taht the answer is use something else
Python has a variety of deep storage modules, sqlite is good past several gigs, and past that use a real database
how do I pyut this
a database is not optional
once you have >100gb of data, you are using one
"but I'm using jq" it's a crappy database implementation
doing all the things a database does
somber heath
livid niche
is this a silly beaked bird
livid niche
once you have >100gb of data, you are using one
what about 100mb of data, i only used 100gb as a theoretical extreme
but i realize 100gb of text is insane
proud tangle
the builtin json probably handles it fine
you could drop in orjson and be certainly fine
livid niche
out of curiosity what is the best database implementation for storing primes though
ive been wanting to create a private collection of primes
only needing to look at one prime at a time i suppose
livid niche
out of curiosity what is the best database implementation for storing primes tho...
is there a way to calculate the amount of storage space you need for storing n amount of numbers?
like if i wanted to store 1 billion numbers
proud tangle
!e ```py
a = list(range(500_000))
import json, time
file = open("data.json", "w")
before = time.perf_counter()
json.dump(a, file)
after = time.perf_counter()
file.close()
print(after-before, "to dump")
file = open("data.json", "r")
before = time.perf_counter()
a = json.load(file)
after = time.perf_counter()
print(after-before, "to load")
file.seek(0)
print(len(file.read()))
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = list(range(500_000))
import json, time
file = open("data.json", "w...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0.20153129613026977 to dump
002 | 0.05334757803939283 to load
003 | 3888890
data.json
too long to upload
proud tangle
4mb takes .2s to save and 0.05 to load here
Yeah this sounds like something youd' want to use an HBM store for..
wrong abbreviation
livid niche
oh damn ive never heard of this ram
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Bandwidth_Memory
proud tangle
IT's a scientist thing
HDF5
this is your "my dataset doesn't fit in ram" storage tool
livid niche
this is your "my dataset doesn't fit in ram" storage tool
imagine getting your ram blown up by 1 billion primes 
proud tangle
You may also want to look into parquet
Also I actially did that!
I wrote a prime number calculator and ran it into the 100 billion range
I think
or low trillions
It ran out of ram and I had problems :3
wheel sieving?
livid niche
I wrote a prime number calculator and ran it into the 100 billion range
100 BILLION primes
proud tangle
ikr
proud tangle
My main performance issues were:
printing each number
and reallocating the storage space
Primes are antiregular
proud tangle
Lol
No, it actualyl cannot be
that's the trick
Primes are only defined as an absence of all other patterns
The current best generation method is to literally construct the patterns and extrapolate them and then look in the holes
IT's why they're fascinating
livid niche
the riemann zeta function is a good approximation
proud tangle
the number 7 :3
livid niche
it has yet to be proven/disproven
craggy vale
livid niche
it has yet to be proven/disproven
actually the function itself is legit, it was specifically the claim that the function maps well to primes that has yet to be proven/disproven
@somber heath i think they might mean they dont know how to bake the icons into the actual system
proud tangle
lol
livid niche
@craggy vale im trying to figure out how to cross compile linux kernel to run on this tiny thing
it is the size of the tip of my finger
craggy vale
<@1186943801558831168> im trying to figure out how to cross compile linux kernel...
what is that micro controller ?
livid niche
what is that micro controller ?
m5stamps3a
proud tangle
livid niche
it powers the cardputer
proud tangle
ESP32-S3FN8
https://gojimmypi.github.io/ESP32-S3-Linux/ here's a random tutorial from google
I saw a few more
livid niche
i need to purchase PSRAM cuz the internal memory of the xtensa cpu on the chip is too tiny to fit linux kernel
proud tangle
The first company that figures out how to shrink ram again will be the richest fucks imaginable
livid niche
it powers the cardputer
@somber heath @craggy vale cool thing about cardputer is they fit a python repl on there
i printed hello world on that thing
livid niche
The first company that figures out how to shrink ram again will be the richest f...
8mb
somber heath
This doesn't have all of what I want, but just look at this gorgeous form factor. https://www.ruggtek.com/en/product/rtl510-industrial-rugged-linux-tablet/
craggy vale
<@317279909112446976> <@1186943801558831168> cool thing about cardputer is they ...
what is cardputer
livid niche
it powers the cardputer
this is the cardputer it is the size of a credit card
proud tangle
You know what I want?
I want apple to stop being a bunch of fucks
and release their chips out
look at this crap
craggy vale
?this?
craggy vale
yeah thats it
👌 nice
proud tangle
imagine IOT constructed out fo these
it fits under the top of the phone
the wghole back of thephone has no chips, just a brace and a battery
craggy vale
it has lego mount ports
proud tangle
call it a macrosd card and reuse nvme
livid niche
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-wow-omg-gif-16764726822672365502
has a repl, a wifi adaptor, and some other doodads like microphone and recorder
proud tangle
size example
livid niche
@craggy vale raspberry pi is like 300$, cardputer is 30$
proud tangle
if software enshittification wasn't going at maximum coal power
craggy vale
<@1186943801558831168> raspberry pi is like 300$, cardputer is 30$
yeah
proud tangle
we coudl get a pi zero for 50 bucks and stick it in a keyboard and run normal things on it
but unfortunately we have to support microsoft teams
Imagine true modular computing
craggy vale
alright
ebon kite
@somber heath @mighty linden
gyz, leaving for 10-20 mints
austere hornet
hi
just popping in for a bit
very unstable wifi here though
i miss when it was green
very therapeutic
oh well
now i must away
whole bear
Why do older generations think younger generations are foolish?
somber heath
@tiny oyster 👋
tiny oyster
Apologies for intruding
whole bear
I mean the same mindset as class or capitalism.
Richer thinks the poor are foolish
peak siren
Why do older generations think younger generations are foolish?
Why do younger generations think older generations are foolish?
whole bear
Why do younger generations think older generations are foolish?
Read the sentence again
somber heath
paper wolf
🗣️ gu-knor
peak depot
whole bear
English is Germanic language
paper wolf
ignore
igknorr
whole bear
Knorr gate
paper wolf
🗣️ ke-nees
paper wolf
opalmist use that
@crystal fox can i scrape it?
i can scrape it to get the jokes from that
ur late
my ke-nees hurt
the idea of intelectual properly was to create something, and make sure only you can take advantage of that creation in exchange of you share how you create it
now they add a rule so that there's a way to hide some details on how its done exactly
copop copy
paper wolf
still no embed ._.
calm ginkgo
candid spire
Does it really matter to all of us to learn such things?
AI is not a bubble
It is next internet
AI based application can be bubble but not LLM itself
because we have limited LLM
biggest concern for leading AI company like OpenAI is energy and profitable business model.
Most people want almost free AI because they think robot cost no money.
OpenAI is dependent on US govenrment.
Without government it would have been out competed by Chinese LLM
candid spire
I hate those startup which make use of existing LLM as their main feature of product.
somber heath
candid spire
I mean you have little to no inovation
somber heath
calm ginkgo
<@778585347562930208> what kind of AI you working on
I'm working on ARC-AGI, loss landscape smoothing, and CAFA 6
somber heath
paper wolf
I hate those startup which make use of existing LLM as their main feature of pr...
every startup AI is just a openAI wraapper
paper wolf
I'm working on ARC-AGI, loss landscape smoothing, and CAFA 6
on on the research part huh
somber heath
candid spire
every startup AI is just a openAI wraapper
Those startup are part of bubble and openai itself is not bubble
calm ginkgo
on on the research part huh
yeah...but for work i work on deep learning systems for ranking and rating systems like OpenSkill
!pypi openskill
wise cargoBOT
calm ginkgo
every startup AI is just a openAI wraapper
that's more or less my profile status lol
calm ginkgo
using AI to rank what?
yeah like video games MMR systems or ranking documents etc
paper wolf
> every startup AI is just a openAI wraapper
that's more or less my profile stat...
i just checked lol
candid spire
As long as UK has good economy it would be matter of concern if things went wrong with UK.
If it becomes below top 10 or 20, most likely it would not be matter of concern if things went wrong with UK.
calm ginkgo
!e
print(type(list()), type(tuple()))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<class 'list'> <class 'tuple'>
@paper wolf To code faster. think first act later!!
To go fast is to go well
Coding not the most difficult part for me
understanding problem and finding solution for such problem is second most difficult part of programming
coding is just 5 minute work
candid spire
How can you type 8 hours a day straight
paper wolf
no live :D
candid spire
It's not possible to type code for 8 hours in a day
paper wolf
i just did lol
candid spire
So you give yourself no time to think about problem and solution
you just code and code
paper wolf
programming is mentally exhausting
candid spire
I don't think so
paper wolf
coding is something my hand can do without looking
candid spire
So can I do
but difference is I think before and create multiple possible solution in my mind.
Then I code
paper wolf
thats how i can code 8 hour+ daily
candid spire
After that most difficult part for me is debugging
paper wolf
but solving a actuall problem on the code
candid spire
actually coding is 2 hours at most
paper wolf
about 10% of that
paper wolf
im just blindly writting stuff checking what works
candid spire
No wonder you are mentally exhausted
paper wolf
but my brain is dead thinking 30 things at a time
candid spire
Can you solve problem without thinking about code in your mind?
If you can, you should be not coding over and over again for the same project.
paper wolf
If you can, you should be not coding over and over again for the same project.
yeah but my brain is solving other problem on other projects i havent finished
all at same time
candid spire
@paper wolf This is my approach, both in learning and in practice:
- I have a book with me
- I use this book to understand problem and write possible solution, it has no code just some maths and random diagram
- After understanding all possible solution as much as I can within a mind, I code it takes 5 to 10 minute.
- Now If I face any problem with code, I do debug which is most difficult part of coding.
- So most of my time is in fixing debug instead of writing a code for solution of problem over and over again.
candid spire
yeah but my brain is solving other problem on other projects i havent finished
Intrusive thoughts
candid spire
its even filled with scribbles from the first very code i wrote
What did you wrote?
Did you wrote a pseudo code in it?
paper wolf
no i write english to explain how the code should work, sometime i write oython code
candid spire
no i write english to explain how the code should work, sometime i write oython ...
Quite different
paper wolf
i even simulate the state of the code for each step
paper wolf
i suck at math on that time so i dont do math ._.
visual is not my thing, i suck on visuals
candid spire
i suck at math on that time so i dont do math ._.
You have to learn and make use of basic maths for CS
It is good pratice
paper wolf
i know a bit of math now
candid spire
visual is not my thing, i suck on visuals
I don't know what could be best pratice for you..
Best advice would be
paper wolf
theres no lol, im super new on programming world ill discover it sooner or later
but its def not now
candid spire
Take notes on your activity during code
understand root problem for your exhaustion
look for reason
find possible solution which you can do
and practice those solution which you think can help you..
paper wolf
bo-a-wo-a
candid spire
@paper wolf Do you have any particular specializaiton?
paper wolf
no...
candid spire
Now it made sense
paper wolf
i write code stuff that interest me at the time
candid spire
you must be doing so many stuff at the same time
paper wolf
yes
candid spire
like game dev, web dev, so on
candid spire
Choose one and invest most your time in it
paper wolf
Choose one and invest most your time in it
i did that but it ends up fail cus i dont know how to structure a code
candid spire
i did that but it ends up fail cus i dont know how to structure a code
I do understand but this is part of learning
paper wolf
now im doing other project to learn a specific things
candid spire
now im doing other project to learn a specific things
So far which of those 8 you enjoy most?
candid spire
To do application in cpp?
paper wolf
@crystal fox 9!!!
candid spire
So you like coding in cpp.
paper wolf
To do application in cpp?
yes, it was my first large projects to
that includes more than 5 files
candid spire
Gotcha
paper wolf
it was my first large project for over 2.5+ years of my coding journey
candid spire
Damn
paper wolf
im slow idk 🥲
candid spire
So why don't you learn more about cpp and make use of those learning in related field
paper wolf
my brain is noT working
paper wolf
So why don't you learn more about cpp and make use of those learning in related ...
wdym?
candid spire
wdym?
Explore field like Game Development, API and backend in cpp.
How many different language you use @paper wolf ?
paper wolf
2 mainly but i know 3
candid spire
Good to know
I use 3 language and one of them is main.
other lang are more like optional
I'm focusing my energy on one specialization or stack
instead of exploring multiple field, I'm exploring multiple thing related to same stack
paper wolf
Explore field like Game Development, API and backend in cpp.
i cant even finish creates how ill start creating a game ._.
candid spire
i cant even finish creates how ill start creating a game ._.
Everyone starts at 0
paper wolf
i mean yes for sure but, i cant even finish a simple logic gate simulator app how ill make a entire game ._.
i can probably make a pingpong...
candid spire
i mean yes for sure but, i cant even finish a simple logic gate simulator app ho...
Do not doubt yourself
I did not know coding
paper wolf
*programming
candid spire
but somehow I was able to code in c# and make game in unity
paper wolf
yeah cus of unity
paper wolf
its same for me when i created the first ever code i wrote
candid spire
yeah cus of unity
You can use unreal
paper wolf
its just a simple emulation of a custom CPU architecture
paper wolf
You can use unreal
my pc cant posibly run that
candid spire
my pc cant posibly run that
I wish you could afford a better system
how about API and backend in c++?
paper wolf
tell that to our goverment 🥲
candid spire
You can do that?
paper wolf
how about API and backend in c++?
i can probably do that
candid spire
tell that to our goverment 🥲
which gov?
candid spire
i suck at frontend
So am I
but component make it easier
learn react and make use of existing component for UI
paper wolf
im a low level guy, i never search for frameworks or libraries, i write a altenative
like most of the thing youll see on my projects barely has imports
candid spire
im a low level guy, i never search for frameworks or libraries, i write a altena...
IOT?
Ig this is best.
paper wolf
IOT?
paper wolf
????
candid spire
paper wolf
anyways its alr time ill sleep now we have 7AM class tomorrow
candid spire
Bye
paper wolf
https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/internet-of-things
im not embed dev
i dont even have embed hardware
autumn pumice
any sysinternals geniuses here?
pseudo helm
hello
what's up? guys
I created my first Full stack application. Don't froget to look once
Have a nice day 😊
I hope you liked it 😁
thin wasp
Hey how are you guys . Can't speak in voice call bcz my mic is suppressed
wise loom
any sysinternals geniuses here?
you sound very smart 🧠 yourself.
maybe we should ask you about sysinternals.
umbral mauve
immigrants doesnt always have choice
most of them are forced to leave their country
whole bear
Is he the same guy as early?
I mean he was racist now he is tech enthusiastic
wise loom
Remember when Sam Altman said AI data centers in space? Turns out that’s bs.
When has Sam ever said anything worth any credence or worth the time spent listening? I can’t recall a single such instance
latent nimbus
autumn pumice
you sound very smart 🧠 yourself.
maybe we should ask you about sysinternals.
why would u say that
wise loom
why would u say that
knowing about sysinternals alone is evidence enough for me.
anyway, you should ask your actual question, I'm sure if anyone knows, they will answer.
odd hollow
@wind raptor hello i cant tallk
yet
@wind raptor excuse me bro whitch domain u use python on
mighty linden
hey!
wind raptor
<@373121697957543946> hello i cant tallk
!voice
wise cargoBOT
mighty linden
not segfault were you named lele in the afternoon
mighty linden
what's reliable chatbot that's free nowadays to code?
odd hollow
hhhhh
mighty linden
with vscode
odd hollow
do you know something about it ?
lavish rover
otherwise most of the models have free plans but very limited use
odd hollow
okay bro i do selflearning i start with python and sql and know
i dont know what to do next
mighty linden
doing anything on your own takes a lot of time these days
odd hollow
i am i in the right road ?
mighty linden
someone else was talking abt antigravity previously
some people at yale dont like using computer?
odd hollow
i know but with python i can hadle oop very well and in sql i can create databases and tables
mighty linden
ecommerce.... googleanalytics, keywords, ads, and all.... not code odoo
mighty linden
how to deal with scammers on fiver
vocal basin
I should be writing docs for https://tagit.parrrate.com
but still haven't done anything in that regard this week
mighty linden
asking for email and links and all
vocal basin
very slow progress
mighty linden
they say ive paid can you proceed or are they real /?
vocal basin
I should be writing docs for <https://tagit.parrrate.com>
but still haven't done...
emptiness
yes
candid spire
Hello my bios
How was days?
Damn
I hope so
How about you?
Are you healthy and fine?
All of the fellow member have cold?
I can hear your cold in your voice
I heard a sound of breathing in mucus from nose
Okay
vocal basin
I should be writing docs for <https://tagit.parrrate.com>
but still haven't done...
it also pulls the tag message from the changelog
https://github.com/parrrate/opentagit/releases/tag/tagit-core%2F0.3.3
candid spire
it also pulls the tag message from the changelog
<https://github.com/parrrate/op...
May I ask you personal question?
vocal basin
which question
candid spire
What are your perspective on me since I have been in the server and talking to you and fellow members?
what do you think what age I am and level or EQ and IQ on your mind suitable for me?
mighty linden
chris what have you been working on
mighty linden
wow!
woeful blaze
How are you doing today mindful
mighty linden
MongoDB is collections based db
vocal basin
I understand some theoretical basis of it
vocal basin
I understand some theoretical basis of it
the whole ideological basis behind NoSQL
mighty linden
i do a bit of everything is mytype of dev
depends on the risk taking capacity of the interviewer
vocal basin
interviewers will generally prefer if the candidate appears specialised for the specific things they ask for
based on the assumption the candidate spent more time on those things if they didn't do anything else
vocal basin
XML HTTP Request
mighty linden
JavaScript API
vocal basin
what fetch replaced
vocal basin
learn both, languages are heavily involved in representing those concepts
mighty linden
then the backend and lang
vocal basin
@whole bear do you know how to implement a compressed trie?
vocal basin
@wind raptor are you still having mic issues?
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> are you still having mic issues?
might be a threshold issue because speaking quietly, or just Discord being weird
mighty linden
let's sync it here? then like these that are doing
vocal basin
making your own company means paying tax twice: sales and salary
mighty linden
making your own company means paying tax twice: sales and salary
tax is always charged on profit after expenses so that's not an issue
rugged shadow
ok
whole bear
Bye
whole bear
making your own company means paying tax twice: sales and salary
Reward and Risk are equally high
mighty linden
Reward and Risk are equally high
and your wealth grows on equity (you'll have to go public)
whole bear
People like me have a low chance of being hired
livid niche
yo
whole bear
and your wealth grows on equity (you'll have to go public)
Nope
Equity is an asset that has value only if it has demand.
If the company is private and small with small revenue and profit, equity has no value!
mighty linden
Equity is an asset that has value only if it has demand.
If the company is priva...
every seed has a potential to become a big tree one day 🙂
whole bear
every seed has a potential to become a big tree one day 🙂
But only 5% grows
Not every
Simple law of capitalism:
There will be a depressed class
livid niche
ive written some functions in bash
vocal basin
FastAPI is a DI framework for starlette
livid niche
a hypervizor? or did i mishear @pseudo helm
@pseudo helm you mean tech support doesnt support distros that arent enterprise?
@echo bison ive been messing around with bash
#!/bin/bash
declare -a incnumbers
numinc(){
num="$1"
inc="$2"
ceil="$3"
incnumbers+=($num)
while [ $num -lt $ceil ]
do
numinc=$(( $num + $inc ))
num=$numinc
if [ $num -le $ceil ]; then
incnumbers+=($num)
else
continue
fi
done
}
numincout(){
for items in ${incnumbers[@]}
do
printf "$items\n"
unset incnumbers
done
}
@echo bison declare -a makes an array
unset means it flushes the array
because if i call numinc and then print its array and then call numinc again and print it, that array is gonna just expand
vocal basin
<@856263284764311583> ive been messing around with bash
```bash
#!/bin/bash
dec...
you can ask @midnight agate if you want bash advice
livid niche
#!/bin/bash
source ./test.sh
numinc 0 3 31 && numincout
Zsh
livid niche
ive heard dash is nice but i have been hesitant to use it
pseudo helm
Terminal
vocal basin
#!/usr/bin/env bash
livid niche
the if statement is important to prevent it from adding beyond the ceiling to the array
!e
pseudo helm
Dioxus | Fullstack crossplatform app framework for Rust https://share.google/9R7KbcIhXpzolh2a2
vocal basin
the if statement is important to prevent it from adding beyond the ceiling to th...
this is what's being asked
if [ $num -le $ceil ]; then
incnumbers+=($num)
# else
# continue
fi
done
Anybody used it ?
vocal basin
Dioxus | Fullstack crossplatform app framework for Rust https://share.google/9R7...
don't shorten links please
share.google looks suspicious
pseudo helm
don't shorten links please
Ok
livid niche
!e
#!/bin/bash
declare -a incnumbers
numinc(){
num="$1"
inc="$2"
ceil="$3"
incnumbers+=($num)
while [ $num -lt $ceil ]
do
numinc=$(( $num + $inc ))
num=$numinc
incnumbers+=($num)
done
}
numincout(){
for items in ${incnumbers[@]}
do
printf "$items\n"
unset incnumbers
done
}
numinc 0 3 31 && numincout
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m3[0m
002 | declare -a [1;31mincnumbers[0m
003 | [1;31m^^^^^^^^^^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid syntax[0m
the full link even seems to be shorter
https://dioxuslabs.com/
so it's not really even shortened
livid niche
!e
```bash
#!/bin/bash
declare -a incnumbers
numinc(){
num="$1"
inc="$...
it would probably print 32 instead of stopping at 30
vocal basin
oh its python only
yes
livid niche
@pseudo helm its a hyrax
vocal basin
it got almost a whole line without a syntax error
livid niche
related to elephant
wind raptor
numinc(){
num="$1"
inc="$2"
ceil="$3"
while [ $num -lt $ceil ]
do
numinc=$(( $num + $inc ))
incnumbers+=($num)
num=$numinc
done
}
what a random group of animals
livid niche
@echo bison function(){...} is a function syntax
wind raptor
I'm just simplifying what was there a bit
vocal basin
I'm just simplifying what was there a bit
"it's a trick to make it look like we're criticising your code, not that of some beginner"
livid niche
<@856263284764311583> function(){...} is a function syntax
@echo bison smth annoying about it having () is that you actually cant put anything in there, if you wanna define parameters you need to use the positional symbols $n n being natural numbers. there might be a maximum but idk.
echo bison
<@856263284764311583> smth annoying about it having () is that you actually cant...
sounds inconvenient haha
livid niche
<@856263284764311583> smth annoying about it having () is that you actually cant...
but to make it nicer you can do something like var=$n
vocal basin
what a random group of animals
the water mammals seemingly come from so many random taxons, since this is not the one with whales
why is this not a word in this dictionary
and just `taxon' is
wind raptor
I was just pointing out one thing without refactoring the rest
echo bison
why is this not a word in this dictionary
it is though, right ?
wind raptor
my bad
vocal basin
it is though, right ?
plural of taxon
vocal basin
why is this not a word in this dictionary
pseudo helm
Are you hating me for no reason?
vocal basin
ah, because taxa
vocal basin
ah, because taxa
British
livid niche
```bash
numinc(){
num="$1"
inc="$2"
ceil="$3"
while [ $num -lt $...
you need to set the first value of the array to be the initial value of $num or it wont add it, the while loop is to add the rest of the numbers
vocal basin
okay so taxons is apparently not entirely a word
pseudo helm
Pardon me 🙏
vocal basin
okay so taxons is apparently not entirely a word
proscribed + US-ism
wind raptor
you need to set the first value of the array to be the initial value of $num or ...
This is setting the first value because I don't update num until after
This also won't add the number if it starts above your ceil
livid niche
oh i can get away with using variables inside of $(()) without needing to put $ next to the variable name?
wind raptor
It was unintended as I wrote it, but intended when I pushed enter 😉
livid niche
for variables
wind raptor
Could be
primal shadow
Thanos gonna Thanos
livid niche
dont dissappear oh great bash wizard
primal shadow
vocal basin
the full link even seems to be shorter
https://dioxuslabs.com/
ah, it's the one that had some scope creep catastrophe iirc
accidentally overhyped
vocal basin
when the company that didn't bother with developing software too much
whole bear
Hello 👋
whole bear
I was curious to ask, is it permissible to ask for anything related job?
lavish gazelle
@wind raptor
vocal basin
I'm looking at the server not dying of heat (for now)
long time ago, before the proper cooler was installed, it did sometimes rise to 90 degrees C
@wind raptor what a scrummy remark
wind raptor
<@373121697957543946> what a scrummy remark
I'm glad someone noticed
vocal basin
I'm glad someone noticed
I have an image somewhere where it's Shrek poster but instead of Shrek it's Scrum and I still can't find it
wind raptor
I have an image somewhere where it's Shrek poster but instead of Shrek it's Scru...
haha nice
vocal basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
heavy zenith
vocal basin
proper syntax highlight
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BKUQ
you can derive Default if you want a quick way to implement filling all fields with zeroes, however that doesn't work in const contexts
add and sub should probably be impl Add and impl Sub instead
so that + and - work
and scale would be Mul<f64>
doing normalisation for force calculation sounds a bit off
.norm() gets called twice
and in one of the cases it then undoes sqrt
inland cosmos
I will just sit with you for a bit, if you don't mind
vocal basin
if calling with such data is a programming error (bug), you can use panic!()
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BKUQ#1L55-L55
wise cargoBOT
file 1 line 55
if distance == 0.0 { return Vec3::zero(); }```also probably zero not empty
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BKUQ#1L52-L52
wise cargoBOT
file 1 line 52
// if the distance == 0 return an empty vector```.
empty vector is vec![], a collection
norm can be split into two methods, with one of them returning it squared
@heavy zenith JS
distance*distance
this undoes sqrt
sqrt is expensive to calculate
vocal basin
```py
number = 100
sqrt_number = number << 1
```
this is multiplication by 2
the classics
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
const float threehalfs = 1.5F;
x2 = number * 0.5F;
y = number;
i = * ( long * ) &y; // evil floating point bit level hacking
i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); // what the fuck?
y = * ( float * ) &i;
y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 1st iteration
// y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 2nd iteration, this can be removed
return y;
}
@heavy zenith for this one it's fine
vocal basin
the classics
```c
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
...
in C++ this is UB
heavy zenith
i = * ( long * ) &y;
lavish gazelle
this is multiplication by 2
ohh you right
vocal basin
the classics
```c
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
...
in Rust, you need union there for it to work
wind raptor
Gotta make some dinner. Cheers
tepid edge
On JAL you get one hour of free wifi for each email address you can name
Pretty sweet deal
vocal basin
@heavy zenith I don't think you'd lose much because of precision, but, from what I know, modelling it is excessively hard for different reasons
FFT and operations adjacent to it should be fine with f64
(iirc that one is needed for doing the "compare everything with everything" kind of operations)
there are existing implementations
Rust itself doesn't provide types for it
vocal basin
databases belong in containers
@crystal fox containers are not VMs; if code runs in a container, then it runs on bare metal
@crystal fox installation and maintenance of installing outside the container is waaaaaaaaaaaay more complicated
BSD Jails, one of earlier containerisation techniques, have been around since 2000
@patent chasm especially with Alpine for the container: directly binds to syscalls instead of going through glibc
somber heath
@last mantle 👋
last mantle
Hi
I'm really new to coding just started learning by myself around 1 month ago.
Currently I work on a little side project about student enrollemnt system haha I confuse about save and load with json right now haha
yeah yeah I have to learn a bit about json library stuck here for few days now haha
yep I do clean code seperate file and all those stuff
vocal basin
✅ clean code
❌ Clean Code
with FastAPI and things alike (e.g. axum) there's at least somewhat less of explicit parse/unparse calls
(for JSONing/unJSONing)
there is a thing that combines Pydantic and SQLAlchemy
last mantle
time to look into SQL it seem
last mantle
I will take note of that graph vector got it
patent chasm
vocal basin
using graphs here sounds like a bit of overengineering
need to have enough non-trivial connectivity to justify
last mantle
after this project and more of basic fundamental stuff also want to create mini 2d game in Python from scratch with its own engine may be try Pygame or something like that. It might be good project for learning I think.
patent chasm
using graphs here sounds like a bit of overengineering
basicaly makes everything in his db a json node that he can manpulate faily easly via json
and then append stuff to each student node
last mantle
Wow, printer mafia exists? sound so bad.
inland gorge
im rookie but i cant wrap my head around why solutions in python are just so slower than in c++ or even c or rust . python is easy so i like doing it for CP but idk
@somber heath
@somber heath
vocal basin
please don't abbreviate `competitive programming' like that
somber heath
im rookie but i cant wrap my head around why solutions in python are just so slo...
I'll address this in a moment.
I didn't see it until just now.
patent chasm
somber heath
@inland gorge I'm ready to talk about that now if you like.
@whole bear 👋
@rugged gyro 👋
inland gorge
!!
@somber heath im here
hello
that makes sense would u say python is just a really well done domain specific language kindof thing ?
yea ive had opprtunities to. do questions in like 1 or 2 lines in python against like 10 lines in C
vocal basin
do remember: GIL-free Python is slower for single-threaded workloads
so not always getting faster
JIT is happening
that might be a more universal improvement
match got way faster compared to what it used to be
(match used to be strictly slower than equivalent if structures)
livid niche
Sadly no SPI pins 😭
Meaning I can't interface with the SPI pins on the CPU
@somber heath how are you have you seen any birds today
somber heath
A few.
vocal basin
for whatever reason, I had this issue exclusively with Chrome
(with Firefox running into "Checking Route" instead, usually)
scarlet dust
odd
vestal merlin
@undone frost my internet is fucked lol
somber heath
It would be Japan.
scarlet dust
patent chasm
<a href="http://www.example.com" target="_parent">Open Link in Parent Window</a>
scarlet dust
somber heath
@mental lion 👋
jaunty socket
timid quartz
craggy vale
somber heath
@little valve 👋
little valve
<@1196088254487867423> 👋
Welcome bro
somber heath
@solar smelt 👋
solar smelt
woeful blaze
Did you make your own os?
Kool
jaunty brook
It's winter in our country but still 26° ☠️
craggy vale
Did you make your own os?
Kool
yeah it's called CatOS
it's a debian based linux distro
craggy vale
<@373121697957543946> look the OS talking the ram
now I'm trying to make it more and more optimized under 1 gb removing some stuffs from my os this is going to useless so yeah
brave fossil
hi
dude ur mic is on
what just happend
?
@candid spire sry i dont have a mic :(
WeirdBoi thats correct :)
anyone wanna see one of my projects?
ill stream it in Live-Coding vc
why cant i stream??
idk
I mean it says LIVE coding
wait
let me try to send a video
here's a screenshot, my program is a autoclicker. heres the test result
its 1096 CPS
import threading
import time
from pynput.mouse import Button, Controller, Listener as MouseListener
mouse = Controller()
clicking = False
running = True
def click_loop():
while running:
if clicking:
mouse.click(Button.left)
time.sleep(0.001) # Adjust click speed here
else:
time.sleep(0.1)
def on_click(x, y, button, pressed):
global clicking, running
if pressed:
if button == Button.x1:
clicking = True
print("Autoclicker started.")
elif button == Button.x2:
clicking = False
print("Autoclicker stopped.")
# Start the click loop in a separate thread
thread = threading.Thread(target=click_loop)
thread.start()
# Listen for mouse button events
with MouseListener(on_click=on_click) as listener:
listener.join()
this is the code
I'll try
I can change the speed
woeful blaze
<@373121697957543946> look the OS talking the ram
Is it using python because I've been wanting to make my own os
craggy vale
Is it using python because I've been wanting to make my own os
nope it's a debian based os so it's based on c and c++ and ui is js and css
dry jasper
primal shadow
interwoven with a story
dry jasper
@whole bear
primal shadow
SLACKERS!
cloud lotus
@dry jasper are there some websites that I can practice my basic python knowledge on?
whole bear
<@381154715293188106> are there some websites that I can practice my basic pytho...
programiz
dry jasper
mighty linden
What are we talking about?
candid spire
Hi
mighty linden
I failed problem 2
Where
candid spire
What are we talking about?
Did you got your answer?
mighty linden
Where
mighty linden
I have no idea what are we talking about
frozen zephyr
Guys
You think AWS certification worth it? I mean to data field
Yeah
Because I'm in the same sittuation of the sofus
Oh sorry
Thouzand was the one who are a begginer in data :
?
Ahh ok
My bad
Anyone here work with data science?
Could you repeat the name, please?
copper narwhal
Hi guys, I am new to this space
copper narwhal
Can I get a chance to talk?
frozen zephyr
Nice tips, Animmo
primal shadow
Another lovely day
copper narwhal
I don't qualify to use voice chat lol.
I am a GIS & Urban Planning student in my final smester but unfortunately I failed for final GIS class because the course was related to Python, especially Arcpy and Numpy.
Just want to ask a question - is it realistic to learn Python in 1 month?
primal shadow
Not ata the moment
was thinking of loading it up
it is lunch time after all
Satisfactory
the game I was playibng
yes
candid spire
I guess he is playing a game which everyone plays
primal shadow
Oh, rimworld?
candid spire
life
primal shadow
Rimworld is the colony sim, Satisfactory is a 3D factorio
but worse
so much worse
Rimworld is one of the best games ever
as is Factorio
Rimworld is a colony sim
A story generator
candid spire
Thouzand
were are you from?
Those who are born in US are lucky af
they can buy gun
I can play real life pubg
whole bear
I can play real life pubg
police will play pubg after you win
dry jasper
takeshi's castle
whole bear
I will play pubg with them
and will you hit them body shot or head shot?
candid spire
candid spire
is it a gun?
It is weakiness of cops
after bribe it is second most critical thing for cops
You are from netherland bro
cops over there are chill
primal shadow
Those who are born in US are lucky af
lol, the majority are not terribly lucky
candid spire
US cops are interesting, it is army disguised as cops
whole bear
bro has analyzed whole world police attributes ig
candid spire
lol, the majority are not terribly lucky
Everyone has right to bare arm?
primal shadow
Not everyone
candid spire
!8 +?
primal shadow
All sorts of reasons to take em away
Not really a right
in my book
if it can be taken
More like permission
candid spire
I think police should have bazuka
primal shadow
that can be revoked
candid spire
normal gun ain't enough for them
primal shadow
I think I should be able to have an atomic bomb
self defense, ya know?
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
candid spire
why atomic bomb?
primal shadow
Technically to have an H bomb you gotta have an A Bomb rihgt/
candid spire
Yep
candid spire
but atomic bomb is slow death
primal shadow
either one should suffice for self defense
candid spire
hydrogen bomb is instant vapourized death
candid spire
American gun law are inspired from switzerland
primal shadow
See how well bigger weapons self defend?
Just need a mail truck to hold that missile from the USSR
primal shadow
IDK about that
I feel like in NK they're corrupt from the top down, in the US it's bottom up
candid spire
up ain't corrupt?
primal shadow
No point fighting for last place, I agree
whole bear
@dry jasper he's not in vc
https://github.com/beeware/toga
have you used this? @dry jasper @whole bear
yeah, classic one
I was checking cross platform, includes mobile app and I found this one.
it's in dart
Google pay in Flutter ig 🤨
I see, so basically scalability is the problem!?
I thought of react native 😭
quasi breach
Hey guys
whole bear
@whole bear it's good
you haven't heard me yet
🙂
my english 😢
yes, exactly we can communicate
😎 Yes
whole bear
Gtg
livid niche
;e
print(random())
!e
import random
n = None
print(random(n))
!e
import random
n = None
print(random(n))
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m3[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | print([31mrandom[0m[1;31m(n)[0m)
004 | [31m~~~~~~[0m[1;31m^^^[0m
005 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35m'module' object is not callable. Did you mean: 'random.random(...)'?[0m
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
import random
print(random.randrange(1, 4))
```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
2
@wind raptor trying to make the random range function slightly better
@wind raptor i noticed it has preference to 1's when you do (1,4)
livid niche
@wind raptor maybe more things but it gets better with bigger parameters
vague bison
i just wanna listen if thats OK?
livid niche
@wind raptor with bigger parameters like (40,100) it feels like a better random
vague bison
So, whatcha guys workin on?
livid niche
@wind raptor is there a way to use parenthesis like how you do in regular math using python without it being considered a module?
!e
import math
a = 10
b = 10
print(10(a+b))
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | /home/main.py:4: SyntaxWarning: 'int' object is not callable; perhaps you missed a comma?
002 | print(10(a+b))
003 | Traceback (most recent call last):
004 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m4[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
005 | print([31m10[0m[1;31m(a+b)[0m)
006 | [31m~~[0m[1;31m^^^^^[0m
007 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35m'int' object is not callable[0m
I'm curious...
livid niche
!e
```py
import math
a = 10
b = 10
print(10(a+b))
```
like that
i wanna express 10(a+b)
without it being considered module
vague bison
hey Chris
livid niche
@wind raptor ik its just using parenthesis looks more pleasing, i was curious if there was a workaround
livid niche
@wind raptor is sympy the spelling
vague bison
so bassically a calculator package in python?
kinda?
oh cool.
yeah. i like to use thonny python, so you know how you can go to tools > manage packages?
wind raptor
!e
import random
from collections import Counter
times = 10000
data = [random.randrange(1, 4) for _ in range(times)]
counter = Counter(data)
print(counter)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({2: 3440, 1: 3355, 3: 3205})
@wind raptor i have a work around for random sucking for small inputs that would theoretically work, i just need to install pip
vague bison
Hey Chris. how much do you know about pybricks or thonny python?
idk
it uses micropython
ye
if i need help with something, where do i go, Chris?
livid niche
@wind raptor is there an alternative of len() for ints
@wind raptor i need the length for doing 10^n
wind raptor
livid niche
<@373121697957543946> if i need help with something, where do i go?
if you want laser focused help you go to the thread area
vague bison
I was asking you because i was thinking you may be a mod or something.
livid niche
and follow guidelines
@wind raptor whats the symbol python uses for exponents, i tried ^ and that seems to be something else
wind raptor
**
livid niche
\*\*
nice, also i discovered my code is shit so i gotta rewrite it.
i found out a workaround for len() not working on ints
int(len(str(var)))
vague bison
Hey, thanks Chris. Imma gonna go ahead and post my thing... whatever it's called. (I'm still new here, so I'm still kinda getting used to some of the stuff.)
livid niche
i found out a workaround for len() not working on ints
int(len(str(*var*)))
@wind raptor is this a bad workaround
wind raptor
!paste
wise cargoBOT
vague bison
yeah ok
bleak sapphire
!e
```py
import math
a = 10
b = 10
print(10(a+b))
```
!e
import math
a = 10
b = 10
print(10*(a+b))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
200
can you possibly help me with a voice chat in python? I can explain how i want it to work.
if you need me too
i can explain in chat
ye
livid niche
!e
```py
import math
a = 10
b = 10
print(10*(a+b))
```
oh so i installed sympy for no reason cuz i couldve done that
well on the bright side its presumably a useful module
inland cosmos
Are you here everyday? @wind raptor
Currently trying to understand OOP. How long
did it take you to understand it?
Yeah inheritance and all this stuff scares me
vague bison
here ya go, Chris:
so, I want two programs; a client program and a server program. the server program would go onto my 2018 raspberry pi 4 model B and the client program would be used on any computer. (though i kinda want the client to be an app since that would be easier. just boot the app and the're ya go.) When the client starts running, it connects to my raspberry pi via cloudflare tunneling. (I'm thinking about using try.cloudflare.com for temporary tunneling.) So, after it connects, it'll somehow broadcast your voice to any other clients connected. another thing too, I'm using raspbian OS lite. (64 bit i think?? I can't remember...)
wind raptor
Counter({'1\n': 345, '3\n': 336, '2\n': 319})
After running 1000 subprocesses with only a single print @livid niche
livid niche
Counter({'1\n': 345, '3\n': 336, '2\n': 319})
After running 1000 subprocesses w...
ig it was just a coincidence it preferred 1's when i was using it
livid niche
Counter({'1\n': 345, '3\n': 336, '2\n': 319})
After running 1000 subprocesses w...
im engaging with sunken cost fallacy, i will finish the program i was actively writing before your tests concluded
inland cosmos
Just created a class and wrote some methods. Simple stuff really. Just understood the concept of object.
Also been using modules from pypi because they use objects as well.
Function inside class
livid niche
Function inside class
i once did a while loop inside a class, it made @somber heath go pale
inland cosmos
To create different objects that have different data ig
And run functions on them
Can't explain it lol
Yeah
Didn't understand it yet
Also maybe you know what setters and getters are for
Because i can't imagine real world use
Yeah it just conventional to use _var names
timid quartz
@wind raptorcan u join call and let me ss
inland cosmos
Appreciate answers. It means a lot. Bye
vague bison
Hey, Chris