so i think you are around 30. right?
#voice-chat-text-0
livid pagoda
somber heath
so i think you are around 30. right?
upper basin
Probably mountain climber. They're super strong.
primal shadow
livid pagoda
https://tenor.com/view/really-justin-timberlake-close-up-judging-you-intense-jud...
no?
lavish forum
I think I fixed my stuff
Someone found the bug
It's such a simple bug
Took me 5 days 😭
I love programming man
it's awsome
that's sooo true lol
😭
Nix?
wind raptor
wise loom
some 64GB microsd cards.
I got lucky 🍀 and wasn't shipped fake ones.
sleek rampart
Python install manager
The installer we offer for Windows is being replaced by our new install manager, which can be installed from the Windows Store or from its download page.
primal shadow
@wind raptor
are you sure?
Hit that link
read the first 2 lines
Python is evolving
Change for the sake of change 🙂
It installs somewhere
vocal basin
easy to remember command
runic prairie
wise loom
I'm a Debian monk, surviving years without updates
in theory yes, life without updates is so much better
vocal basin
in what theory
wise loom
I think updates hitting eMMC soldered storage should be taken into account.
if an app hits eMMC hard, it should be dropped from the appstore
wise loom
~~in *what* theory~~
I mean I'm on the fence about updates. They're needed but at the same time I myself just don't want the latest features.
primal shadow
~~in *what* theory~~
Smart TV Theory
and reality, a smart TV that never got an update runs better
craggy vale
A linux user home be like🥲
somber heath
A linux user home be like🥲
crystal oyster
I see @crude nova
hoary sable
vocal basin
unexpected
wise loom
Fanta was invented in wartime Germany due to import restrictions
@primal shadow
A New York bank linked to Fritz Thyssen, a German industrialist who gave early financial support to Hitler
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Banking_Corporation
wise loom
Early support
I could go on. There are many more links. US companies had business interests and many many subsidiaries in Germany.
primal shadow
Though it looks like they might have done business during the war, and the government was unhappy
because as a whole ,teh US government was at war with Germanyt
the actions of free will having Americans does not dictate the policy of the nation
wise loom
because as a whole ,teh US government was at war with Germanyt
but doing biz at the same time
primal shadow
I was just on the way out.
somber heath
@sudden palm 👋
somber heath
can i speak
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@frosty spoke 👋
somber heath
@torpid crane 👋
frozen wolf
Hey
somber heath
lavish rover
somber heath
@raven lance 👋
raven lance
Hello
wind raptor
bleak copper
look for this -->
lavish rover
@wind raptor give me 5 then let's play
vocal basin
working
it's functioning
(it was reverse case: I joined with a VPN, noticed it's an okay server, unVPNd, then rejoined)
somber heath
@fading eagle 👋
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
i need some help
With what do you require help?
fading eagle
im new to python and i want to know where to test my skills as a beginner
a beginner
somber heath
im new to python and i want to know where to test my skills as a beginner
Test, well, you might like to try your hand at some projects.
!kindling
wise cargoBOT
fading eagle
thank you
somber heath
@abstract bobcat 👋
abstract bobcat
Hii
somber heath
@wheat cove 👋
shadow folio
Hello
vocal basin
@upper basin do you git tag your code frequently?
you can publish pre-releases if they're usable at all
0.0.0-a.426
vocal basin
<@664667836605661217> do you `git tag` your code frequently?
I added pyproject.toml support for the thing I use to partially automate that
(for now just as an experiment to test whether the plug-in system works at all, haven't yet tested on real projects)
upper basin
I added `pyproject.toml` support for the thing I use to partially automate that
...
That's a nice feature.
vocal basin
used to be Cargo.toml-only
now partially supports pyproject.toml and package.json in addition to that
also will need to add [tool.uv.workspace] support
pyproject.toml still doesn't yet have tool-agnostic workspaces iirc
doing the tag automation also really helps with properly doing releases, from my experience
https://github.com/parrrate/opentagit/actions
(it's mostly done for that purpose)
vocal basin
did you really just have to use a calculator for 480/60
2014
@upper basin I see you're consulting the ancient wisdom
target directory for one of my projects is getting somewhat non-small
rustc situation
vocal basin
`target` directory for one of my projects is getting somewhat non-small
@upper basin you can try guessing how non-small that is
(Rust's build artifacts)
455
(gigabytes)
I somehow constructed a method chain so complicated that rust-analyzer crashed
it's only, like, 18 methods
(was)
now it's ~22
had to .boxed() a few times to unbreak it
vocal basin
out of 12TB available total, okay-ish
upper basin
hehe
vocal basin
(I just never ran cargo clean there)
upper basin
Gotcha
vocal basin
out of 12TB available total, okay-ish
30TB if the other disk is included
vocal basin
(I just never ran `cargo clean` there)
mostly just result of this
it accumulates over time
for a single compilation, it's around 10GB disk + 10GB RAM
with 20~40MB result
all the source + intermediate artifacts
Rust caches those for incremental compilation
so that it doesn't take half an hour each time to recompile
almost exclusively because of Laravel or some other specific tech
(I don't learn languages from books)
vocal basin
doing the tag automation also really helps with properly doing releases, from my...
currently adding an option to do --sign=false on the CLI in case someone actively refuses to sign commits and tags
yes
didn't hear the question
walkdir is the default approach, yes
there's not much point in asking upfront
just use it; if it doesn't fit, write yourself or use something else
vocal basin
there's not much point in asking upfront
(if you're already aware of walkdir existing)
if you want to customise it, just borrow the code and link to the original
somber heath
still cant talk
Have you been trying the button from time to time?
hoary sable
Have you been trying the button from time to time?
yeah
somber heath
The activity blocks, I'm guessing.
hoary sable
yeah i don't have Been consistently active for 1 hour 30 minutes in text chats
for some reason
vocal basin
@upper basin with ✨Agentic AI✨'s help, you could've optimised that 30 minutes to be 3 hours
somber heath
yeah i don't have Been consistently active for 1 hour 30 minutes in text chats
Well, you're in the home stretch if you keep at it.
hoary sable
Well, you're in the home stretch if you keep at it.
alright
somber heath
@gusty thicket 👋
vocal basin
<@664667836605661217> with ✨Agentic AI✨'s help, you could've optimised that 30 m...
Copilot
🛬💥
ruff includes isort
upper basin
import pandas as pd
import torch
import torch.nn as nn
from torch.utils.data import Dataset, DataLoader
from sklearn.preprocessing import StandardScaler
import numpy as np
from numpy.typing import NDArray
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from itertools import product
import tqdm
Best to not.
vocal basin
from itertools import product
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import numpy as np
import pandas as pd
import torch
import torch.nn as nn
import tqdm
from numpy.typing import NDArray
from sklearn.preprocessing import StandardScaler
from torch.utils.data import DataLoader, Dataset
yeah it's ethically weird
i wouldn't do it basing it off on my personality
vocal basin
```python
from itertools import product
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import ...
@upper basin
red red red
this almost looks like Red, the theme
candid spire
Is it true that developers are bad at finance?
vocal basin
real estate developers?
candid spire
~~real estate developers?~~
SAAS
vocal basin
red red red
I reluctantly accepted using Error Lens, because underline things were too hard for me to spot
I have weird eyesight
I can see individual pixels when looking at them directly but can't find an error highlight on screen
candid spire
I can see individual pixels when looking at them directly but can't find an erro...
You got the eye of the eagle
vocal basin
that case where "better than perfect" eyesight is completely useless
upper basin
red red red
That's quick with whatever happened to pylance a week ago.
I went from 0 errors, to launching the window and suddenly getting 1k errors.
vocal basin
I have weird eyesight
I also can't see moving objects well
somber heath
@terse bone 👋
candid spire
I wish I could recognise you!
vocal basin
which I discovered when training for big tennis
candid spire
But I guess I have gold fish memory
vocal basin
Voice Lord mentioned
candid spire
Btw, I hope you are doing well? @naive basalt
vocal basin
... this is so slow
also I should probably
- stop using Fedora for CI
- use a pre-built container with all the deps
candid spire
I wish we could have fella back like we used to have back in those old days!
My English is poor
vocal basin
@somber heath we know who will do it in we know which language again
iirc that's why some things were added to the standard library
so presumably productive
@somber heath you still can solve even if you can't submit
vocal basin
*... this is so slow*
one day I'll probably stop bundling the entirety of cargo as a dependency
and just use cargo-metadata instead
it finally compiled
only took 35 minutes this time
somber heath
@timber rivet 👋
timber rivet
Sometime today I'll finally receive voice perms I think
patent mural
sup chat
timber rivet
Hello stranger
scarlet halo
@patent mural we can hear your keyboard
patent mural
<@1402452119604302007> we can hear your keyboard
💀
timber rivet
It's not like there's anything it's disrupting
At least it's something to listen to
scarlet halo
tbh if you need something to listen to just listen to music, i don't mind the noises the keyboard makes but just thought i'd let him know
vocal basin
@upper basin more random git questions: do you use monorepos/big multi-project workspaces
patent mural
Hello stranger
hi
vocal basin
<@664667836605661217> more random git questions: do you use monorepos/big multi-...
though I guess that distinction only makes sense once stuff gets published
patent mural
@scarlet halo did u hear me breating?
scarlet halo
no
patent mural
@dim hazel wtf is that pfp😭 😂
primal shadow
Another exciting day of work
amber raptor
Another exciting day of work
Sure,
primal shadow
These clacks ain't gonna click themselves, so I'm gonna clicky clack until I go home.
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> more random git questions: do you use monorepos/big multi-...
Sorry went to watch Dollmaker (Jane Fonda one). Umm, I don't think so. I guess if both quick and qmprs shared the same repo then that would be it, but I usually try to keep them small and separate for easier management.
That's mainly because all of my projects are just maintained by me. If I had a proper team, and was going to brand it as a platform, then yeah then I'd probably put it all in the same repo.
cirq I guess is the one I've seen do that.
!pypi cirq
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
Usually cirq-core is what people use, but there're ton of other modules there at the same level which I guess would make it technically a monorepo?
wise loom
yes so the 6th edition is available
https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Python-Powerful-Object-Oriented-Programming/dp/1098171306
wise loom
wise loom
@balmy shuttle what did you do today?
wise loom
hii! im working on a payment gateway
very good. you like money?
balmy shuttle
lolll!! dont u?
wise loom
lolll!! dont u?
i’m not a prada gucci armani guy. i’m the guy you see getting coffee at the gas station at 4am 🕓
candid spire
Hi
vocal basin
@upper basin answer closed as duplicate
-- StackOverflow
candid spire
Am I deafen?
vocal basin
no one is talking seems like (in reply to above)
calm ginkgo
<@664667836605661217> answer closed as duplicate
-- StackOverflow
someone literally closed a very old question of mine in math stackexchange after so many years for being too opinion based..this is why stackexchange is dead now
vocal basin
someone literally closed a very old question of mine in math stackexchange after...
just write 15 papers on your opinion, now it's research-based
❌ submit an AI-written answer
✅ submit an answer backed by unreadable amount of AI slop
gilded radish
Does a Software Engineer(Frontend Focus) need to handle server Devops part?
vocal basin
Does a Software Engineer(Frontend Focus) need to handle server Devops part?
the whole point of devops is that there is no "part",
devops is the discipline where development and operations are not partitioned based on who is responsible for them
if you (you being a person or a team with shared responsibilities) write front-end code and you are responsible for deploying your own front-end code, that is devops
otherwise it isn't, as far the strict way of it goes
@dry jasper
5 7
as tall as the handgun? no way
lmao
IQ tests are too long, I'd rather play minesweeper for 10 hours instead
@dry jasper IQ is just a way of converting ranking to a number
just a scale
I only ever took online tests
some random one which was shorter and mensa's online thingy
from what I remember, currently only shapes-based tests are considered somewhat reputable when applied to Europe/NA population
because culture-agnostic within that subculture
(if you want to compare the whole human population, it stops working correctly)
vocal basin
from what I remember, currently only shapes-based tests are considered somewhat ...
or rather just most of the world, not just two specific areas, but those are just a safer guess
winter helm
hello there
vocal basin
mensa sounds like scam
typical fake "society"
@crude nova if the IQ test is not language-agnostic, it is absolutely useless
like completely discredited
even mensa is aware of that
primal shadow
"very high" is relative
vocal basin
introducing language is one of the easiest ways to make it about culture alignment instead of intellect
primal shadow
but I scored well enough to land in the gifted program
Internet IQ tests are junk, proctored tests ca n show the capacity to adapt
and learn
vocal basin
@upper basin the ones which don't show results out of a certain range are at least somewhat less cursed
like only 60~140
everything else is shown as <60/>140
primal shadow
Intelligence is the ability to learn though
That's the problem
You're seeing a knowledge test
what you know
your intelligence is not your knowledge
intelligence is capacity
knowledge is information
vocal basin
<@664667836605661217> the ones which don't show results out of a certain range a...
(this is not what mensa test does iirc)
((at least from what I witnessed))
(((at least not within those ranges)))
primal shadow
What? So the only way to test for intelligence is unsolved problems? That's madness
vocal basin
@upper basin the point with those test is in part in how they're structured in a way where you can't study for them, only train
calm ginkgo
iq tests are scams lol
vocal basin
to you, if you take it for the first time, it will be a "haven't seen this before" problem
as for usability of it, very dubious
calm ginkgo
they're about as valid as MBTI
primal shadow
iq tests are scams lol
Online ones are for sure
vocal basin
why would you ever pay for it
calm ginkgo
it's pseudoscience at best
vocal basin
they're about as valid as MBTI
IQ test results are good at predicting your IQ test results next year or something like that iirc
allegedly they seem to be somewhat stable, not pure randomness/feelings stuff
IQ test results can predict IQ test results
without useful connection to the rest of the stuff
and IQ itself is, again, just a scale
calm ginkgo
IQ test results are good at predicting your IQ test results next year or somethi...
yeah height is really good at predicting if you're going to be taller next year...your point? just because it's not random doesn't mean it's meaningful
primal shadow
@upper basin So if I solve the unsolved problem, what's my score?
Is this new IQ test a pass fail?
You either solved the unsolved or you're a moron?
upper basin
Do you have to have a badge that says high IQ?
vocal basin
yeah height is really good at predicting if you're going to be taller next year....
there is no point, just like there is no point in IQ tests beyond that
calm ginkgo
primal shadow
https://seanamcclure.medium.com/intelligence-complexity-and-the-failed-science-o...
Ooh, medium
vocal basin
"oh, look, repeatable results, this surely looks like science"
primal shadow
Best source of facts
vocal basin
they're about as valid as MBTI
would assume, yeah, something like this
calm ginkgo
fyi the papers are included in the medium
vocal basin
"oh, look, repeatable results, this surely looks like science"
"look, we have statistics, they're, like, existent, and, like, they have numbers, and numbers, like, exist, this surely means something"
vocal basin
Ooh, medium
(from the second one)
another thing medium is apparently now famous for: personality attacks
primal shadow
Seriously
that 2nd article is fucking trash
Sounds like a salty writer did bad on an IQ test
vocal basin
last time I spent >minute on reading a medium "article" it was some critique of HTMX that ended in a series of ableist and transphobic comments
primal shadow
The ability to recognize patterns?
Patterns are everywhere
Literally
Pattern recognition is pattern recognition
Being able to connect the disconnected
That's why we administer IQ tests to children
because they haven't thought to study how to game them yet
IQ test for college?
calm ginkgo
lol did you understand the math
vocal basin
it's pseudoscience at best
I'd probably call it dangerous/useless science rather than pseudoscience, unless you require ethics and meaningless results for it to qualify for science, which, sure, fair
vocal basin
lol did you understand the math
the second article looks a bit like it tries to overwhelm the reader with mathematics
vocal basin
one random thing that I picked out from that was how "dead people score 0 on the IQ score" or something similar
if it meant something else, it was very unclearly written
but
the point is clear there
dummy inputs bias the results
(just, like, written poorly)
vocal basin
look, science: #voice-chat-text-1 message
I still haven't figured out the logistics of procuring a .249878 of a rat
why is MBTI still respected in any way
do people not get disgusted by such idea of classifying people in this way
primal shadow
Y'all are confusing knowledge with intelligence
@calm ginkgo intelligence != knowledge
IQ is capacity
IQ is not knowing
vocal basin
Y'all are confusing knowledge with intelligence
that misunderstanding has been already addressed
primal shadow
A newborn has an IQ, doesn't mean they know physics
upper basin
"I have a metric for measuring brain power, but it doesn't actually apply to any tasks that use brain."
vocal basin
so clearly not "y'all"
candid spire
Hello 👋
whole bear
True
candid spire
IQ has no meaning!
vocal basin
(with the implication being that obviously this also means education-based test are disqualified)
vocal basin
IQ has no meaning!
it has a very specific meaning:
for a specific test, it represents ranking
vocal basin
It is pure statistics
so yes
whole bear
@haughty pier Could you explain these scales ?
primal shadow
"I have a metric for measuring brain power, but it doesn't actually apply to any...
No. It's like measuring the capacity of a container
and the container is empty
so the capacity is now irrelevant?
vocal basin
<@536038147600154634> Could you explain these scales ?
15 points represents a single standard deviation
or something like that
whole bear
Right
primal shadow
Just because it's not yet used?
My car doesn't have as much HP as it does because I don't floor it?
vocal basin
145 is top .15% roughly iirc
candid spire
The problem with IQ is that, just like any other test an applicant can score higher if it's 2nd or 3rd attempt
whole bear
so the average is 100, right ?
vocal basin
@haughty pier iirc I did the maths, and that is around correct, yes
your guesstimate is close enough
or mathstimate
193 is one in 3.5 billion
candid spire
so the average is 100, right ?
Depends..
In a decent economy and a country with a near 100% literacy rate, yes.
But for developing countries it reduces to 80 or below exception is China
vocal basin
so the average is 100, right ?
by definition
by how IQ is constructed
also, by construction/definition, it's normally distributed
smart is an unsmart word
candid spire
Smart and Intelligence are different words, it is as different as want and need
vocal basin
smart and clever bring certain negative connotations to them
"being smart" and "being clever" are often negative comments on someone/something
candid spire
Tbh, in my perspective a rich and healthy man is an intelligent man!
vocal basin
^ that sounds more like intelligencia than intelligence
... and that's where we hit the ambiguity on what "intelligent"/"intelligence" means
words are weird and somehow we ended up in a situation where "intelligent" is primarily about education, and "intelligence" is primarily about thinking capabilities
candid spire
Idk how most psychopaths have good EQ and IQ
upper basin
I wonder what IQ Delta Force operators have.
upper basin
Idk how most psychopaths have good EQ and IQ
Watching too much Dexter and Hannibal.
vocal basin
psychopaths "with high EQ and high IQ" are the media-popularised types thereof
meanwhile there are many just random people who just can't comprehend empathy
upper basin
meanwhile there are many just random people who just can't comprehend empathy
That's really sad. Some are not even sociopaths, they just don't understand it and are confused.
vocal basin
selection bias
psychopath + somehow learns to abuse social interactions + somewhat brainful
^ this combination really helps a person get more influence, and therefore we end up seeing more of them
candid spire
This is how I judge if a man is smart or not :-
- Humble and Respectful both by action and word
- Meaningful talk beyond material existence and people
- Independent Problem Solving and Information retrieval
- Slow but steady increment in skills over time.
vocal basin
That's really sad. Some are not even sociopaths, they just don't understand it a...
not being able to empathise is pretty much the definition of sociopathy (though if slightly reworded)
vocal basin
This is how I judge if a man is smart or not :-
1) Humble and Respectful both by...
"humble by action" sounds dubious contextually
sounds like lack of daring
upper basin
I don't know why, but when I think of sociopaths, it's always those cold assholes.
Such a horrible mental image.
primal shadow
weren't idiot and moron scientific terms?
vocal basin
I don't know why, but when I think of sociopaths, it's always those cold asshole...
that's the whole point there: popular image creates that selection bias
upper basin
I learned java in 4 days, python in two weeks. I was useless despite understanding the code. Self-studying is invaluable but it's only fleshed out when you practice, and that doesn't need a high IQ. Just commitment.
vocal basin
"learned" being was able to write something you chose rather than doing something a tutorial told you to?
candid spire
I think it's not just about IQ some people hate programming but they are good at other things like Art, Finance, Mathematics, etc
vocal basin
I wouldn't've considered myself as someone who finished learning Rust before I read through the entirety of reference and standard library reference
upper basin
The smart designs, good practice patterns, those you learn from experience. It's not IQ.
upper basin
I wouldn't've considered myself as someone who finished learning Rust before I r...
That's fair.
vocal basin
and that's the only language for which I can say that
I haven't read through the standard library of Python
candid spire
Nowadays, many are hesitant to learn programming because of the AI, not because they are bad at it
upper basin
I haven't read through the standard library of Python
I think I read it, but honestly don't remember it.
vocal basin
I haven't read through the standard library of Python
I did skip parts because, to be fair~~, they're useless shit not worth reading~~
vocal basin
like stuff that got yanked recently
upper basin
I'm gonna go sleep guys, cheers.
candid spire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Services_Vocational_Aptitude_Battery
Somehow not smart enough to defeat Taliban?
vocal basin
smart enough to leave relatively early
amber raptor
Somehow not smart enough to defeat Taliban?
That’s political thing
vocal basin
Russia used to be interested in US presence there, but now Russia and Taliban are allies
to the point of, random fact that's sometimes forgotten, NATO had a military facility within Russia
remember that weird world when Russia and NATO were briefly allies? me neither, but it did happen
vocal basin
to the point of, random fact that's sometimes forgotten, NATO had a military fac...
from my big book of surreal facts
alongside the "did you know that Eclipse is newer than IntelliJ IDEA?"
despite what it looks
can we rule 10 the VC please
candid spire
How come the Russian average in IQ is higher compared to the US?
I mean the US has much more per capita and facilitates?
vocal basin
How come the Russian average in IQ is higher compared to the US?
I mean the US h...
✅ if your IQ is too low, you get shot
unfit for communism
Xerox is US iirc?
Norwalk, Connecticut
the what the where
Xerox are also the early PC people
(PARC)
ah, it was Kodak that massively failed on early tech
these, like, three companies easy to confuse with each other
Xerox had PC
Kodak had digital camera
primal shadow
IQ has nothing to do with getting hired, because humans hire people
vocal basin
Kodak buried it because it would (did) impact their sales
primal shadow
Nepotism and favoritism
vocal basin
~~can we rule 10 the VC please~~
aaaaaaaaa
primal shadow
The job market is not a skill based system
It's a who you know, not what you know, in most places.
vocal basin
Kodak buried it because it would (did) impact their sales
and Xerox gave up on PC because <???>
primal shadow
Just because someone has an incredibly high IQ doesn't mean life didn't leave them them as an unskilled farmer
haughty pier
Trying to answer the question - can someone with a 97 IQ be a good programmer - ChatGPT says yes: https://chatgpt.com/share/69178947-7f2c-800e-9fda-439da68386d0
vocal basin
Nepotism and favoritism
does US regulate favouritism in hiring?
primal shadow
And just because soemone is a fucking imbecile doesn't mean their wealthy father didn't give them a company to run
primal shadow
does US regulate favouritism in hiring?
no
lol
FREEDOM
FREEEEE DOM!
Free dumb...
free to be dumb
vocal basin
yeah, maybe "gave up" is a bit too optimistic
primal shadow
The US does allow the pigs to refuse to hire high IQ individuals
Discrimination against the intelligent
becasue they won't be pigs
vocal basin
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
the what
how is this not Onion
candid spire
Endless debate 😄
primal shadow
how is this not Onion
Because america
vocal basin
do they do another Godzilla story now
like they did last time stuff got way too surreal
calm ginkgo
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
this can't be real wth
amber raptor
Look at the date but it was
candid spire
@fast gyro Hi
vocal basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
the google suggested further questions are truly something
fast gyro
.
wise cargoBOT
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vocal basin
MLP
when I see MLP there's only one thing I can think of
fast gyro
ye
candid spire
Understood
vocal basin
the google suggested further questions are truly something
see this google's random suggestion
one (CV) is about what was, the other is about what is to be
vocal basin
stylistically they might be similar, even sharing some parts of content,
but
the main point of and most content in them is different
candid spire
Bye tc
haughty pier
@fast gyro ChatGPT has some suggestions, FWIW: https://chatgpt.com/share/69178d4b-f650-800e-8c03-43420be1229a - my personal opinion is to rewrite it from scratch without referencing that version, then compare them, make conservative, judicious edits, and submit the rewrite. But maybe this one has your genuine voice and if you believe it does, then submit it.
dusk wyvern
art of saying nothing with non-sources
vocal basin
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-wholesome-meowscles-2025-gif-1125929628591807602...
cat
fast gyro
<@297800369554194432> ChatGPT has some suggestions, FWIW: https://chatgpt.com/sh...
oh thanks, good idea, but the SOP took me like 2 weeks to write it, deadline is in 2 days. so not sure if I WIll have enough time to rewrite another one from scratch.
vocal basin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/980568495412613181/1409514084331950143/hu...
another cat
so many cats
dusk wyvern
another cat
humble lodge
vocal basin
@somber heath said you after hearing that screech
that one is no longer the highest or loudest recording
I did do, like, an octave higher at some point
it's not torturing the vocal cords
but
it might be slightly torturing the ears
it's really low force applied
yeah, it's surprising just how loud it gets from a slight effort applied
vocal basin
it might be slightly torturing the ears
it's excessively loud compared to how little strength both diaphragm and vocal cords are putting in
the only strain, that sometimes happens there, comes from me instinctively trying to quiet myself down, because I get startled by my own voice
it's kind of the same effect when you instinctively try to speak louder when the environment is noisy, but in reverse
the reaction bypasses any sort of thinking and that part is slightly dangerous
=> need to be fully relaxed~~ and prepared for ears to bleed from hearing this~~
another funny sound which, as far as I understand, is done differently, sounds more like whistling
vocal basin
another funny sound which, as far as I understand, is done differently, sounds m...
this I was not able to reliably replicate since
woeful blaze
Does anyone know how to make a stylized outline of an image using python
vocal basin
okay I think I've learned how to make it not as ear-splitting but still high and noisy:
block the loudness by doing it more nasally
(red underlined stuff being the moments where I forgot to do that)
volume just randomly explodes out of nowhere
just making sure whatever I learned to do a couple of years ago is still possible
the other interning
-5 to 255
literals are usually treated like that
*similarly
not guaranteed
your code shouldn't depend on this
!e
print((1,2,3) is (1,2,3))
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001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: "is" with 'tuple' literal. Did you mean "=="?
002 | print((1,2,3) is (1,2,3))
003 | True
!e
a, b, c = 1, 2, 3
print((1, 2, 3) is (a, b, c))
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001 | /home/main.py:2: SyntaxWarning: "is" with 'tuple' literal. Did you mean "=="?
002 | print((1, 2, 3) is (a, b, c))
003 | False
Python does some amount of optimisation/deduplication before it actually turns stuff into bytecode
iirc it sometimes does arithmetic as part of that
like turning 2 + 3 into literal 5
!e
print((1000 * 5) is (100 * 50))
a = 1000
b = 5
c = 100
d = 50
print((a * b) is (c * d))
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001 | True
002 | False
as far as I know, what happens there is that the first turns into literally print(5000 is 5000)
before evaluation
and it might even just do the is pre-eval too, idk
vocal basin
it's not undefined, it's underspecified
UB is something that a compiler/runtime can assume to never happen
or rather, compiler/runtime is allowed to do anything on UB getting encountered
somber heath
!e py a = 1, 2, 3 b = 1, 2, 3 print(a is b) print(a == b)
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!e ```py
a = 1, 2, 3
b = 1, 2, 3
print(a is b)
print(a == b)```
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001 | True
002 | True
these both refer to same literal, so you're not constructing them at runtime
!e
# I wonder if this changes anything
a = x, y, z = 1, 2, 3
b = x, y, z = 1, 2, 3
print(a is b)
print(a == b)
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001 | True
002 | True
it doesn't
!e
# I wonder if this changes anything
x, y, z = 1, 2, 3
a = x, y, z
x, y, z = 1, 2, 3
b = x, y, z
print(a is b)
print(a == b)
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001 | False
002 | True
this does
(in response to what I wrote)
((not VC))
chained assignments are generally weird in Python
I don't actually remember the order in which they happen and whether that order is guaranteed in any way
heavy zenith
!e
```py
# I wonder if this changes anything
x, y, z = 1, 2, 3
a = x, y, z
x, y,...
.
vocal basin
!e
class Test:
@property
def a(self): ...
@a.setter
def set_a(self, _): print("a")
@property
def b(self): ...
@b.setter
def set_b(self, _): print("b")
Test().a = Test().b = 123
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001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m11[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | [1;31mTest().a[0m = Test().b = 123
004 | [1;31m^^^^^^^^[0m
005 | [1;35mAttributeError[0m: [35mproperty 'a' of 'Test' object has no setter[0m
I don't remember how to do this
!e
class Test:
@property
def a(self): ...
@a.setter
def a(self, _): print("a")
@property
def b(self): ...
@b.setter
def b(self, _): print("b")
Test().a = Test().b = 123
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001 | a
002 | b
okay so this
I had a suspicion that it's done in this order
which I don't find intuitive
for me a = b = c is b = c then a = b
but that might be C bias
Rust just disallows this altogether
there a = b = c is b = c then a = ()
so the order of initialisation is something like this (ordered by which variable first gets the final value)
a1 = a2 = a3 = a0
I don't like this order, breaks the right-to-left assignment flow
a1 = a0
a2 = a0 # here it's not actually evaluated
a3 = a0 # here it's not actually evaluated
I guess the ordering might've been borrowed from what it's short for
a1 = a2 = a3 = a0
# same as
a1 = (tmp := a0)
a2 = tmp
a3 = tmp
(introducing tmp in case a0 is a more complex expression than just a variable)
heavy zenith
()
vocal basin
!e
print(())
print(len(()))
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001 | ()
002 | 0
!e
() = ()
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[No output]
and in Rust it just stands for a default empty type
materialised-ish void, within the type system
unlike in C/C++ where void can't be a value type
which is now considered a design mistake
some people also consider first-class reference support in C++ to be a mistake
(references being aliases not values)
C++ and Rust share a lot of the abstract model and general thinking, but Rust is just a better implementation of it
it's not even a just "opinionly better" type of thing any more
C++ standardisation participants are admitting that Rust is now something to catch up to, and a model for how things largely should be
C++ has same compilation time issues
- whatever is added thanks to excessive TMP
incremental compilation is largely good enough
by default, Rust doesn't recompile everything from scratch
most do nowadays
some don't just because their compilers are extremely fast
Jai recompiles everything from scratch in seconds from what I remember hearing
also Go's compiler is quite good at that
there are books which include quite a bit of entertainment value
https://zguide.zeromq.org/
watching talks is also an option
big long video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8sZRBdmqc0
@full dagger watch talks by:
Sean Parent
Jonathan Müller
they cover more fundamental parts of how C++ is supposed to be written
vocal basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGcVXgEVMJg
this is 100% must watch
it might take more than one attempt to fully understand
pre-processor is a C construct
it's a very simple string processing utility
C++ uses the same pre-processor
you can run the C pre-processor on a Python program if you dare to
@heavy zenith pre-processor is unrelated to the speculative execution
speculative branch prediction is a different concept
(I might've be misinterpreting what's being asked)
no, C very much does error out
you can't lookahead the function name
it's just a concatenation/string cutting tool
it can't really do arithmetic even
for arithmetic you need constexpr and consteval (C++)
not just before compilation
before tokenisation/parsing
whereas in C++ you can do this
if constexpr something {
/* ... */
}
which erases the if if something is false
(this happens during compilation)
if constexpr something_is_wrong_during_compilation {
/* do something that causes a compilation error here */
}
Zig has something like this too
you would often have that code inside something templated
so you check if something is true about a type that's passed in, and do things based on that
Rust, by design, doesn't allow constructs like this
^ I don't promote it, especially given statements like this
this is a limitation of Rust
specialisation, as a feature, is still not stabilised
and might never get stabilised
also doesn't (won't) have reflection stabilised
which Zig already has
and C++ is slowly getting
should be usable by C++29
current mechanisms Rust uses instead are based on raw token processing
complex + might be extending the language too far + quite a lot of effort already invested in other methods + internal politics of the Rust Foundation
one of the approaches to mimic reflection
https://docs.rs/mirror-mirror
the problem is this one is happening at runtime
currently, you cannot conditionally construct extra code based on type information, only based on code text (after tokenisation)
both C++ and Rust have some level of Lisp-like "just make it somewhat work" with regards to these compile-time metaprogramming functionalities
meanwhile Zig implements all this through first-class primitives
generics in Zig are just functions which take types as input and return types as output
vocal basin
there are books which include quite a bit of entertainment value
https://zguide....
to quote from this,
even though this wasn't specifically directed at C++
in Python, don't forget to from e when re-raising within except
so that it explicitly chains errors
in Rust there are .context methods on certain result types which allow to build a trace
also if the error gets tracing::error!d, that includes the information about all the nested spans it happened inside
in C++, idk, you just hope you'll be able to debug it from a core dump
in C, iirc Kernel guidelines say this: return 0 when ok, unless it's a check function, in which case return 1 if and only if the condition is true and there were no errors, otherwise (error or false) return 0
Zig uses error sets, similar in part to Rust, but there you can't attach any additional information to the error
want to do Result like in Rust -- invent your own
depends on how often you hit them
performance-wise, exceptions optimise for happy path, errors-as-values optimise for error path
this explains, specifically for ARM, the whole path from throw to catch
@full dagger stored errors are a potentially terrible idea, unless you always force them to surface eventually
for debugging, look into tracing and stuff alike
this is not really error handling in this case
you need tracing/logging, if you want to later inspect it
this is in parallel to actually surfacing errors to users of your API wrapper
you need to rephrase the API in terms which more explicitly allow partial parsing
class MaybeParsed[Field]:
def get(self) -> Field: ...
class ParseError[Field](MaybeParsed[Field]):
def __init__(self, e: Exception):
self.__e = e
def get(self) -> Field:
raise self.__e
class Parsed[Field](MaybeParsed[Field]):
def __init__(self, field: Field):
self.__field = field
def get(self) -> Field:
raise self.__field
class Response:
field1: MaybeParsed[Field1]
field2: MaybeParsed[Field2]
also sounds somewhat dubious
is the API documented?
mildly recklessly maintained
presumably
whenever possible, don't make matters worse, abort early
unless the situation is totally hopeless and no one is going to fix it
you can just record everything you send and receive
if you build some structure (e.g. database) based on what your received, you can then re-compute the state from this log
which, for example, allows fixing a bug in how you process that data, or introducing new features
somber heath
@frozen path 👋
frosty shell
somber heath
@unkempt herald 👋
unkempt herald
Mm
icy raptor
sorry i can't talk right now
muted silo
hello
somber heath
@kindred narwhal 👋
somber heath
idk why i am still muted
You'll need to visit the #voice-verification channel if you haven't, already.
@whole bear @nova flax 👋
@grave oracle👋
grave oracle
👋
paper wolf
i got an ad named conquer country
paper wolf
the ad content was about the best way to nuke someone
paper wolf
it looks like a pompom
candid spire
with some creepy elements to it
How do you do @somber heath ?
I changed my name
I would like to learn python
Would you like to help me learn?
I have done some basic like variable, loop, control statement
Dictionary and set
Both are form of list?
somber heath
{a: b, c: d, e: f} dict
{a, b, c, d, e, f} set
candid spire
Yes
somber heath
!e py print({1, 2, 2, 3, 3})
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!e ```py
print({1, 2, 2, 3, 3})```
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{1, 2, 3}
Hmm
somber heath
!e py my_set = {1, 2, 3} result = 2 in my_set print(result)
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!e ```py
my_set = {1, 2, 3}
result = 2 in my_set
print(result)```
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True
Set is form of Data Structure in which every element is distinct.
somber heath
!e py my_set = set() my_set.add(1) print(my_set) my_set.add(2) print(my_set) my_set.add(1) print(my_set)
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!e ```py
my_set = set()
my_set.add(1)
print(my_set)
my_set.add(2)
print(my_set)
...
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001 | {1}
002 | {1, 2}
003 | {1, 2}
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a.intersection(b) print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a.intersection(b)
print(c)```
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{3, 4}
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a.difference(b) print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a.difference(b)
print(c)```
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{1, 2}
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = b.difference(a) print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = b.difference(a)
print(c)```
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{5, 6}
!d set
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somber heath
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a.symmetric_difference(b) print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a.symmetric_difference(b)
print(c...
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{1, 2, 5, 6}
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a | b print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a | b
print(c)```
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{1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}
!e
my_lists = [1, 2, 3]
in_lists = 2 in my_lists
print(in_lists)
my_tuple = (1, 2, 3)
in_tuple = 2 in my_tuple
print(in_tuple)
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001 | True
002 | True
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a & b print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a & b
print(c)```
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{3, 4}
!e py a = {1, 2, 3, 4} b = {3, 4, 5, 6} c = a ^ b print(c)
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!e ```py
a = {1, 2, 3, 4}
b = {3, 4, 5, 6}
c = a ^ b
print(c)```
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{1, 2, 5, 6}
!e
"""Set is distinct and is always unordered mathematically because abc is same as cba in set"""
sample_set = set()
sample_set.add(2)
sample_set.add(4)
sample_set.add(6)
sample_set.add(8)
sample_set.add(9)
sample_set.add(1)
print("Sample set is : ", sample_set)
sample_set.pop(6)
print("Now the sample set is like : ", sample_set)
sample_set.clear()
print("Set is empty ro clear? : " sameple_set)
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001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m19[0m
002 | print([1;31m"Set is empty ro clear? : " sameple_set[0m)
003 | [1;31m^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid syntax. Perhaps you forgot a comma?[0m
!e
a = [1,2,3,4]
b = [3,4,5,6]
c = a ^ b
print(c)
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001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m3[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | c = [31ma [0m[1;31m^[0m[31m b[0m
004 | [31m~~[0m[1;31m^[0m[31m~~[0m
005 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35munsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'list' and 'list'[0m
!e
"""Set is distinct and is always unordered mathematically because abc is same as cba in set"""
sample_set = set()
sample_set.add(2)
sample_set.add(4)
sample_set.add(6)
sample_set.add(8)
sample_set.add(9)
sample_set.add(1)
print("Sample set is : ", sample_set)
sample_set.pop(6)
print("Now the sample set is like : ", sample_set)
sample_set.clear()
print("Set is empty ro clear? : ", sameple_set)
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001 | Sample set is : {1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9}
002 | Traceback (most recent call last):
003 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m13[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
004 | [31msample_set.pop[0m[1;31m(6)[0m
005 | [31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m[1;31m^^^[0m
006 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35mset.pop() takes no arguments (1 given)[0m
Oh
paper wolf
guys in fact, i use python to quickly solve our quiz
we have quiz about set theory
i use python to lazily solve bunch of questions at ones
paper wolf
primitive data types are simple
somber heath
!e py my_dict = {"key 1": "value 1", "key 2": "value 2", "key 3": "value 3"} print(my_dict.keys()) print(my_dict.values()) print(my_dict.items())
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!e ```py
my_dict = {"key 1": "value 1", "key 2": "value 2", "key 3": "value 3"}
...
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001 | dict_keys(['key 1', 'key 2', 'key 3'])
002 | dict_values(['value 1', 'value 2', 'value 3'])
003 | dict_items([('key 1', 'value 1'), ('key 2', 'value 2'), ('key 3', 'value 3')])
!e
unicode_values = {"a": ord("a"), "b": ord("b")}
print(unicode_values)
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{'a': 97, 'b': 98}
I'm confused
paper wolf
ord = ordinal
somber heath
!e py prices = {"banana": 7, "apple": 2} print(prices["banana"]) prices["guava"] = 9 print(prices)
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!e ```py
prices = {"banana": 7, "apple": 2}
print(prices["banana"])
prices["guav...
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001 | 7
002 | {'banana': 7, 'apple': 2, 'guava': 9}
dictionary is actually self explaining... its a dictionary, it can give you the decryption of a value on my example you have a character and its unicode value
somber heath
!d dict
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candid spire
Gotcha
paper wolf
i use hash map for stuff like event calls where i use the key to tell what event type it is and the vaalue of it holds the function what the program should do on that event
candid spire
i use hash map for stuff like event calls where i use the key to tell what event...
Hmm
wdym by hashable?
paper wolf
hash map is just a universal name for dictionary
paper wolf
wdym by hashable?
if you can convet it into intiger
candid spire
hash map is just a universal name for dictionary
I think they are different?
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paper wolf
!e
print(hash("Hello"))
print(hash("Hallo"))
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001 | 2838597395510877043
002 | -8191158806854847247
you see, a single change will change its output on extreme and unpredictable way
hash is a good way to store a value without needing to know its content
lets say as a key on hashmap (dictionary)
dictionary are just like a lists but you index the values using non-intiger key
but you are welcome to use intigers as key
candid spire
!e
""" Dictionary are data structure that stores key value pairs"""
sample_dict = {"name" : "OpalMist", "Quality" : "Smart", "Aura" : 800}
print(sample_dict["name"])
print(sample_dict.get( "Quality"))
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001 | OpalMist
002 | Smart
!e
a = {1:"1", 2:"2"}
print(a.get(3, "0"))
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2
Uh!
paper wolf
!e
a = {1:"1", 2:"2"}
print(a.get(3, "0"))
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0
like this
somber heath
!e py print({}.get("Nonexistent key.", "Default fallback."))
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!e ```py
print({}.get("Nonexistent key.", "Default fallback."))```
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Default fallback.
I like how python is easy to write compared to Java
candid spire
good thing about Java is quite good for DSA!
candid spire
!e
public class swt{
public int findMax(int[] nums, int k){
int n = nums.length;
int sum = 0;
int l = 0;
int max = Integer.MIN_VALUE;
for(int r = 0; r < n; n++){
if((r-l+1)>=k){
max = Math.max(max, sum);
sum -= nums[l];
l++;
}
}
return max;
}
public static void main(String args[]){
int[] nums = {1,2,3,4,5,6};
int k = 3;
swt pack = new swt();
System.out.println("Output : " + pack.findMax(nums, k));
}
}
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001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m3[0m
002 | [1;31m [0m public int findMax(int[] nums, int k){
003 | [1;31m^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid non-printable character U+00A0[0m
I can't run java?
candid spire
my bad
candid spire
this was sliding window in java
paper wolf
numpy is super fast at its work tho
candid spire
I decided to make a custom code instead
as I was solving DSA problem on leet code
medium level and easy level
candid spire
Btw I guess I have to use dictionary in some way to understand it better
so far your explanation was good
and I learnt so many new stuff
I was confused about it
paper wolf
try to code more complex project and youll learn even more on just a short period of time
candid spire
try to code more complex project and youll learn even more on just a short perio...
I think code is 5 minute work and real work is understanding question and creating a solution in mind
@whole bear Hello!
Take yout time opal
somber heath
!e py text = "abcdefg" for i in range(len(text) - 2): print(text[i: i + 3])
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
text = "abcdefg"
for i in range(len(text) - 2):
print(text[i: i + 3...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | abc
002 | bcd
003 | cde
004 | def
005 | efg
🤮
candid spire
Hmm
O(n) is time complexity?
!e
text = "abcdefg"
for i in range(len(text) - 2):
print(text[i] + text[i+1] + text[i+2])
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | abc
002 | bcd
003 | cde
004 | def
005 | efg
I guess it can't be lowered below O(n)
sliding window is used to reeduce the O(n^2) to O(n)
O(1) is quite rare
!e
my_set = {10, 20, 30, 40}
print(30 in my_set) # O(1) average
!e
my_set = {10, 20, 30, 40}
print(30 in my_set) # O(1) average
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
for i in range(1000): # O(1000) → O(1), constant
print(i)
How come this is O(1)?
As per GPT it is O(1)
Hm
Now I know how it O(1)
For n size it has to do just 1 operation
for it would be O(n) it has to do n operation for n size
I'm confused
damn
as per it is O(1)
I guess it is confusing
moment you replace it with n
it says O(n)
!e
for i in range(1000): # O(1000) → O(1), constant
print(i)
Yep
I guess AI is tripping
Time and space complexity is weird realem
@terse kayak Hey sulfur how are you?
candid spire
Great how about you all
Good
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
candid spire
just talk whatever u like share whatever it is u want to share
Would you like to talk more about problem solving?
Halting problem?
You know so much about it Opal!
was criminal?
I think it is shame that human are judged based on the orientation, colour, ethnicity.
Human should not be judged based on those irrelvant factor for role!
Human are quire materialistic in nature, no other animal is as materialistic as human!
chimps and monkey are close relative to human
I heard a monkey can adopt the orphan monkey and they treat is their own!
candid spire
Evil opal
they would be curious
and fascinated
but would like to repeat the behaviour with rock or pebble
Hover board is marketing
just like Gbps in internet speed
And if you do
10 Gbps is 1.25 GBps
pure marketing
Btw
Did you had lunch?
I just had lunch..
claiming refund is hard
they made it intentionaly harder to claim
whole bear
how to be knowledgeable like u?
candid spire
how to be knowledgeable like u?
Opal?
I gotta do something , brb...
Have nice day everybody!
It was fun time here!
whole bear
i mean, i do study and i forgot things so easily
yeah like putting some emotions, so it can be stored in unconscious
ahhh yes
how old are u?
im here listing
somber heath
@dire nacelle 👋
whole bear
dinner time see ya
paper wolf
im making a terminal based calculator that use prat-parsing to evaluate a expression/math equation
i need dont know what name i should give the file that holds the evaluator and parser
paper wolf
i have this structure
src/
|-app/
| |-main.cpp
|-ui/
|-???/
| |-evaluator/
| |-parsing/
:D
late galleon
lol
upper basin
vocal basin
numbers are in superposition
I clicked "Remove AI Chatbot"
it went away
for now
upper basin
Fixing that right now actually.
upper basin
vocal basin
a single person can't even read all the specifications required to implement a web browser
@wise loom android is linux
it's like saying "difference between ubuntu and linux"
paper wolf
<@264657660190654464> android *is* linux
inside yes
vocal basin
no, there is no extra qualification as "inside"
it is linux
@grave viper embezzlement 🚀
upper basin
I discovered jujuliagava today.
paper wolf
tf was that
upper basin
Made my day.
paper wolf
not a fan of gothic...
upper basin
It's a sophisticated taste.
paper wolf
but hey it sure interesting
upper basin
She reminds me of a young Jane Fonda.
paper wolf
!rule 4 @last ingot
wise cargoBOT
umbral mauve
hello
its quiet here
im good
wby
lol
really quiet
what are u doing
@paper wolf @wise loom
paper wolf
click my pfp itll show u
umbral mauve
k
oh i see
you're writing a...
calculator?
using a pratt parser
or a full interpreter
or even a compiler
paper wolf
a simple one
golden beacon
@lavish gazelle can you go dms i have question
vocal basin
@grave viper use starlette if you want truly barebones
or whoever was asking
I might've mispinged
FastAPI and Django are about different approaches to software
FastAPI is more library-oriented
there you build stuff out of small stuff rather than just having one big thing provide everything with fixed structure
grave viper
<@1192520668613451906> use starlette if you want truly barebones
you can use starlette along side fastapi, which is what ive done before