cyber security
#voice-chat-text-0
calm heron
calm heron
So you're learning the fundamentals of Python
heavy zenith
yup
calm heron
assignment (as-sign-ment)
ment
sign
signment
as
assignment
So you break the word into its syllables and then start saying out loud one syllable at a time from the end of the word to the beginning taking one step at a time to combine the syllables until you get to the beginning of the word and then pronounce the whole word.
text-to-voice
jaunty socket
text-to-voice hi kyle
jaunty socket
parentheses
jaunty socket
syntax error
calm heron
syn-tax error
jaunty socket
hello Ghazi
jaunty socket
calm heron
/tts Hello
calm heron
class Class1:
def __init__(self, var)
self.var = var
class Class2(Class1):
def __init__(self)
def function1
# how do I get self.var here from Class1
!paste
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somber heath
```py
class Class1:
def __init__(self, var)
self.var = var
class Class2(C...
Omit __init__ in the second class, write __init__ along the same lines as in Class1 , provide for a var parameter in Class2.__init__ and use super to pass it along to Class1.__init__ from Class2.__init__, or some other approach.
!e ```py
class Class1:
def init(self, var):
self.var = var
class Class2(Class1):
def function1(self):
print(self.var)
instance = Class2("Hello, world.")
instance.function1()```Omission of Class2.__init__ allowing Class1.__init__ to be used as the constructor for Class2.
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!e ```py
class Class1:
def __init__(self, var):
self.var = var
clas...
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Hello, world.
!e Giving Class2.__init__ whole.```py
class Class1:
def init(self, var):
self.var = var
class Class2(Class1):
def init(self, var):
self.var = var
def function1(self):
print(self.var)
instance = Class2("Hello, world.")
instance.function1()```
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!e Giving `Class2.__init__` whole.```py
class Class1:
def __init__(self, var...
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Hello, world.
@somber heath coming in for the win!
What about something else:
def run_shutdown(self, info, hypervisor, host):
for entry in info:
if hypervisor == "ESXi":
if entry[0] != exempt_vm:
print(f"Shutting down VM {entry[0]} ({entry[1]}) on {host}...")
output, err = run_command(self.ssh_client, f"{self.shutdown_command} {entry[0]}")
if output:
print(f" Result: {output}")
if err:
print(f" Error: {err}")
elif hypervisor == "Proxmox":
if entry[0] == "106":
print(f"Shutting down VM {entry[0]} ({entry[1]}) on {host}...")
output, err = run_command(self.ssh_client, f"{self.shutdown_command} {entry[0]}")
if output:
print(f" Result: {output}")
if err:
print(f" Error: {err}")
class ESXi(Hypervisor):
def __init__(self):
self.pattern = r"^(\d+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s*?(\S*)\s*?$"
self.list_command = "vim-cmd vmsvc/getallvms"
self.shutdown_command = "vim-cmd vmsvc/power.shutdown"
class Proxmox(Hypervisor):
def __init__(self):
self.pattern = r"^\s+(\d\d\d)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+\d+\s+\d+\.\d\d\s(\d+)\s*$"
self.list_command = "qm list"
self.shutdown_command = "qm shutdown"
!e Giving Class2.__init__ but using super.```py
class Class1:
def init(self, var):
self.var = var
class Class2(Class1):
def init(self, var):
super().init(var) # Class1.init
def function1(self):
print(self.var)
instance = Class2("Hello, world.")
instance.function1()```
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!e Giving `Class2.__init__` but using super.```py
class Class1:
def __init__...
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Hello, world.
How do I get self.shutdown_command up into the parrent class?
I guess I just need to structure the code differently
somber heath
Yeah, I'm not really sure what's going on.
somber heath
Keeping in mind that we write classes when we want an object or objects that represents (persistent) state that we want to interact with during the program.
Like a goblin in a game, separate from other goblins.
calm heron
Yes, that's the goal
somber heath
Or an object that represents a connection and you're calling its methods as you need to, reading and writing data, shutting down, etc.
calm heron
So should I not have subclasses in my code for this example or just move the run_shutdown function into the sub classes?
somber heath
I don't know.
calm heron
I think the problem is I'm defining variables in the sub class and expecting to be able to call them in the functions of the parent class
I just need to write it differently
somber heath
I think the problem is I'm defining variables in the sub class and expecting to ...
Oh, my, no
calm heron
lol
I could hear your voice when I read that
OK, I'll try doing it differently. I gotta go afk but I'll be back in a bit
ty again
somber heath
Oh, my, no
Technically, you could, but it wouldn't be code smell so much as code turd to the face. Something something __init_subclass__.
Or explicit name referencing...
!e ```py
class A:
def b(self):
C.b(self)
class C(A):
def b(self):
print("Hello, world.")
A().b()```
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!e ```py
class A:
def b(self):
C.b(self)
class C(A):
def b(self...
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Hello, world.
๐คฎ
woeful blaze
How is everyone doing today?
calm heron
!e ```py
class A:
def b(self):
C.b(self)
class C(A):
def b(self...
oh goodness that does look awful
calm heron
How is everyone doing today?
Good, how's it going?
primal shadow
Another lovely evening
woeful blaze
It's Amazon prime night well for me at least it's something that I want to start and I picked a good one that I haven't seen in a bit
gray rock
calm heron
@somber heath https://paste.pythondiscord.com/UVPA
It's working, I feel like there is so much more to do
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somber heath
!pep8
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somber heath
@quiet needle ๐
quiet needle
somber heath
@fleet drum ๐
mellow mango
w pfp
somber heath
somber heath
@abstract bear ๐
somber heath
cannot talk u.u
!voice
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whole bear
i can't VC
mystic river
!voice
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prisma tundra
I'm trying to rewrite the functions into classes
TEHRE ARE CLASSES IN PYTHON?!?!?!?!?!
haughty pier
yes be patient be patient
somber heath
TEHRE ARE CLASSES IN PYTHON?!?!?!?!?!
Python is object-oriented, but can be written bimodally. "Everything" in Python is an object, every object is of a type/class.
acoustic berry
somber heath
somber heath
@inner scroll ๐
inner scroll
<@1355181882794446918> ๐
hello
spare nebula
hi
fallow whale
Hello ^-^
somber heath
@hearty flame ๐
ocean gazelle
restapi coding resources anyone has?
somber heath
@neon dock ๐
neon dock
<@1125665292132044870> ๐
hello
somber heath
@compact fjord ๐
somber heath
paper wolf
looks yummy
somber heath
vocal basin
paper wolf
that is well done...
vocal basin
(Al also happens to be what Dante's other half of the name shortens to)
paper wolf
actually that is congratulation
paper wolf
creatine??
paper wolf
cat: what are you looking human?
vocal basin
curl arxiv | grep
paper wolf
how you guys can take that nice pictures?? like when i did it on my phone it sucks, i tried doing it with my classmate's cus his phone has better camera but it still suck
the image has all the noise you can have
@somber heath i have all the shit light, i infact use the sun
somber heath
@hidden fjord ๐
paper wolf
that classmate has a nikon p14 ig... it perform super good even with bad exposure and shutter speed
thats 50?
oh
80 per side isnt something i can lift lol
vocal basin
the image has all the noise you can have
- your phones' cameras might be using fake upscaling
- it might be too dark
@peak depot meanwhile here it's cheaper for all the wrong reasons
paper wolf
temu?
vocal basin
i.e. in person purchase pricing of groceries is artificially inflated
I think Amazon with some of their policies does the same to stores
paper wolf
about 80 total but i dont have those equipment... i just lift cement bags
each was about 80KG
also dont delete message....
vocal basin
(this is not an unusual practice to have this illogical inverted pricing)
vocal basin
@peak depot buying in person for me is also, ironically, the more convenient and less stressful option
paper wolf
ill teach you how to make it...
vocal basin
it's just faster to go to the store for most things
vocal basin
exotic matter, < 0
vocal basin
<@425552190283972608> buying in person for me is also, ironically, the more conv...
interacting with 0~1 people rather than 2~3 involved in delivery handling
also
paper wolf
it suposed to have some sort of delay on each numbers?
vocal basin
stores are open at night
vocal basin
of whom
paper wolf
guh fine
somber heath
@vast knoll ๐
vocal basin
stores are open at night
we have three 24/7 grocery shops nearby, but all the groceries delivery stuff is offline
off by 299792458 metres
@peak depot the reasoning isn't based on anything moderation iirc
does that parse?
paper wolf
why not?
vocal basin
.flush
instead of ,flush
I'm trying to remember the nuances of parsing there
end="".flush=True is valid syntax outside the argument list
but
I think that is kind of special case for assignment statements
also, iirc, multi-= assignments have very weird precedence
vocal basin
counts up not down
paper wolf
@midnight agate kindly dont delete your messages
dissable it...
your account will be banned if discord moderation detected it
it is totally against discord TOS
yes i got banned easilly
thats how ni lost my account form 2022
anyways ill fix the code
what?
somber heath
import argparse, time
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(description="Countdown timer.")
parser.add_argument("seconds", type=int, help="Duration in seconds")
args=parser.parse_args()
print("Countdown: ", end="")
for i in range(args.seconds, 0, -1):
print(f"{i}...", end=" ")
time.sleep(1)
print("0...")```My stab at it. You'd still need the right invocation and setup, and that's a little beyond the scope of Python.it does exactly what my code do...
somber heath
Well, I l didn't copy the original spec.
somber heath
it does exactly what my code do...
It is a very simple project. It's not surprising there would be considerable overlap.
vocal basin
"bikeshedding time: final should be 0. not 0..."
somber heath
Shedding the bike.
paper wolf
you might wanna use some escape codes to do what you need
but it shoulndt be that hard
vocal basin
Shedding the bike.
"today on national geographic we have: Europeans"
paper wolf
```py
import argparse, time
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(description="Count...
argument parser?? never knew that existed on python...
you dont need argument parser when you only have one call options
vocal basin
I often use clap in Rust even with 0 arguments
vocal basin
you dont need argument parser when you only have one call options
ensures extra arguments are rejected not silently ignored
somber heath
#!/usr/bin/env python3
import argparse, time
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(description="Countdown timer.")
parser.add_argument("seconds", type=int, help="Duration in seconds")
args=parser.parse_args()
print("Countdown: ", end="")
for i in range(args.seconds, 0, -1):
print(f"{i}...", end=" ", flush=True)
time.sleep(1)
print("0.", flush=True)
Now, as to the #!
That's what works for me.
Other things that say that they should work are maybe targeted at other configurations.
vocal basin
docker's output capturing has interesting opinions on flushing
vocal basin
docker's output capturing has interesting opinions on flushing
specifically, ignoring it altogether
somber heath
Yes, but that's a matter of what you call the file, also chmod +x filename
paper wolf
what are you using this for anyways?
paper wolf
Yes, but that's a matter of what you call the file, also chmod +x filename
probably he's on window....
ill suspect...
if you are on linux, you first need to remove the french language pack, its buggy and will give aloot of error on the standard output
remove the u part..
you gotta remove the -fr /* pack
offlineimap??
ohhhh
i see
what OS you using?
a what...
is that another weird distro?
๐ค
ever tried nix :3?
somber heath
@midnight agateI would argue bash is probably the better language for it.
paper wolf
you can do the same thing on bash to
vocal basin
use Rust, you can just rely on the compile times as the delay
hexed trout
```py
import argparse, time
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(description="Count...
I'm probably missing VC context and this is probably like the dumbest question, but what does a parser do in this context and why is it hooked up to a countdown?
never heard the word before and looking it up isn't super helping heh
vocal basin
I'm probably missing VC context and this is probably like the dumbest question, ...
parses ["program", "123"] as args.seconds=123
vocal basin
wouldn't that be xibang?
somber heath
I'm probably missing VC context and this is probably like the dumbest question, ...
I wanted to be conventional. My understanding is that doing it this way is how it's supposed to be done.
vs sys.argv
hexed trout
appreciate the answers, I think I'm probably missing the goal too, is it just supposed to be a simple countdown script?
somber heath
appreciate the answers, I think I'm probably missing the goal too, is it just su...
Yes.
hexed trout
vocal basin
there should be a decorator to turn functions into argparsed programs
(if not existent, should be created)
vocal basin
there should be a decorator to turn functions into argparsed programs
(if not ex...
same for clap in Rust
I wrote a thing like that for work, but there it's pulling stuff from somewhere other than arguments
somber heath
I hear a bat. ๐
paper wolf
there is no vc mods...
hexed trout
thank you for helping explain Marco! I'm very beginner which is why I was asking, I definitely would not do something better, and would probably use time.sleep(1) in some horrible loop for [i] seconds or something because I'm not familiar with how to use "parsing" or "arguments" in this context haha
paper wolf
just a simple int(sys.argv[1]) would suffice
hexed trout
sure that sounds fun, I'll give it a shot one sec
oh fuck
one sec sorry forgot discord formatting
hexed trout
@midnight agate ok this is probably terrible but this is my immediate go-to solution, is there anything wrong with this?
import time
print("Countdown: ")
for i in range(0, 5):
print(f"{5 - i}...")
time.sleep(1)
print("0.")```5?
hexed trout
discord formatting?
I was just trying to figure out how to format the python code in discord haha
hexed trout
ah! I wasn't aware there's a target, what's the target then?
hazy mesa
hello guys
hexed trout
will give it a shot!
@midnight agate how's this?
import time
print("Countdown: ", end = "")
for i in range(0, 5):
print(f"{5 - i}...", end = "")
time.sleep(1)
print("0.", end = "")```
hahaha
that is very supportive and nice marco, thanks for the help/explanation again!
oh i should've taken your range(5) and put it in too
paper wolf
<@313797258200219648> how's this?
```py
import time
print("Countdown: ", end =...
add flush=True
hexed trout
just for the practice
paper wolf
so it will flush it on each print
hexed trout
does that actually affect the end result?
paper wolf
yes
paper wolf
have a look
hexed trout
will do
paper wolf
just test it
hexed trout
ahhhhhhhhh now i see what you're saying with the text "buffering"
vocal basin
flush stuff is very system/context dependent
hexed trout
now it displays as it comes out
paper wolf
if you didnt flush, it will flush it when the program ends or if onother print flush it
hexed trout
very good to know thanks!
vocal basin
(usually)
spice mango
primal shadow
vocal basin
unlive non-coding
"take care of ..."
given rimworld, ohno what are you planning
I think the last game I played which has any sort of "having to manage people's mental state" was Alters
part of this bundle
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/56135/The_Alters_x_Clair_Obscur_Expedition_33/
vocal basin
I think the last game I played which has any sort of "having to manage people's ...
the premise is that the main character creates alternative versions of himself
naturally, I picked the most cruel choice I could as soon the game let me
vocal basin
the premise is that the main character creates alternative versions of himself
one voice actor, many very different characters
I've just learned what that voice actor contributed to BG3
quartz beacon
Sup
Can't talk rn
I might in a moment
I migrated to NL
Don't think I told you
Currently living here as a refugee
My roommate is an odd fucker
And housemates tend to be odd too
So yeah
vocal basin
not even
quartz beacon
Dude stalked my mom on FB and harassed her
Then expected nothing to happen
Now he's trying to stalk me
๐
I'm not sure if he's like master level manipulator or genuinely just a small person who never faced consequences in his life
Because surely someone beat his ass back home for this shit
Ukrainians aren't known to tolerate bullshit like this.
Anyways how are you Krzy
Glad to hear
I wish for a boring life
But currently it's still a bit too much
Haven't truly settled in yet
Gonna get a job soon ish
So i can afford good food
vocal basin
Anyways how are you Krzy
would that be pronounced [kสษจ]?
quartz beacon
would that be pronounced [kสษจ]?
ะัะธ
vocal basin
โ I'll assume that is Ukrainian ะธ not Russian ะธ so it aligns what I suggested
yes
quartz beacon
ะัั
vocal basin
intersperse letters in the name with some guns, American will pay closer attention
either
there is a feminine name of that sort
relatively common I'd expect
vocal basin
there *is* a feminine name of that sort
I think zeki was in the VC relatively recently
vocal basin
either
reminds me that I should continue playing the game where the "Cassidy" is from
half-completed
calm heron
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.10
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.51
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.10
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.51
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.52
INFO:__main__:Could not reach the host on port 22 (connection refused or timed out).
(if you do this for monitoring, consider looking into SNMP and adjacents)
calm heron
giving me more to do
This is a script that probably runs maybe once every couple of months, so it might be easier to write a check in an RMM to look for changes to the file and then look at it manually in the event it happens
calm ginkgo
so i found a stackoverflow on a way to avoid the blocking issue somewhat
it's put the handler insider a queue
somber heath
!resources
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somber heath
@jaunty socket
calm heron
This is a script that probably runs maybe once every couple of months, so it mig...
This environment does have an SNMP server though
jaunty socket
Automate the Boring Stuff with Python.
A Byte of Python.
Ok
tulip lava
๐
calm heron
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.10
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Connected to Hypervisor: 10.136.200.10
INFO:root:Checking host hypervisor type
INFO:root:Host is Proxmox
INFO:root:Getting VM list
INFO:root:Connection closed to 10.136.200.10
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.51
INFO:paramiko.transport:Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_9.2p1)
INFO:paramiko.transport:Authentication (password) successful!
INFO:__main__:Connected to Hypervisor: 10.136.200.51
INFO:root:Checking host hypervisor type
INFO:root:Host is Proxmox
INFO:root:Getting VM list
INFO:root:Shutting down VM 106 (kali) on 10.136.200.51...
ERROR:root:Error: VM 106 not running
INFO:root:Connection closed to 10.136.200.51
INFO:__main__:Running TCP check on 10.136.200.52
ERROR:__main__:Could not reach the host on port 22 (connection refused or timed out)
ERROR:__main__:Verify SSH is enabled and not blocked by a firewall
pulsar coral
hi all, just got to know about this discord serverfrom my book Python Crash Course by Eric Matthes
Excellent community
somber heath
!e py print(format(0x1F642, "b"))
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!e ```py
print(format(0x1F642, "b"))```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
11111011001000010
thick cradle
Hi
calm heron
if (($Battery.EstimatedChargeRemaining -le 50) -and ($Battery.BatteryStatus -eq 1))
long dragon
vocal basin
four 50/50s in a row
digital quail
so how can i verify this
vocal basin
by participating in conversations using the text channels
@wind raptor did you buy Alters?
(it's bundled on steam with Expedition 33)
heavy zenith
hollow knight
heavy zenith
yeah
vocal basin
idk
ah, okay
confusing syllables
anyway back to writing splay trees
I've mostly heard that Silksong was better not harder
Vim escape simulator
yeah online co-op
@peak depot โ absolutely nothing
peak depot
this seems interesting
vocal basin
minesweeper is souls-like:
- high difficulty
- enemies respawn after restart
vocal basin
Happy Game is 80% off
Soma too
existential horror
I want an option to find games from my library that are currently on sale
yeah, trying that
hmm
@heavy zenith yeah, steamdb has filter by discount, thought of search there too
heavy zenith
w
vocal basin
Frostpunk is 90% off, good game
wind raptor
!stream 223839302914801664
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โ @calm heron can now stream until <t:1762111000:f>.
vocal basin
oh, it also shows "all-time low" note
you can use OBS as a cam and apply filters to unRed the theme
heavy zenith
or just change it
vocal basin
w
looks like I have exactly 100 games that are on sale
I approve of Red
compared to light mode
@wind raptor insides of a military submarine vibe
heavy zenith
!
vocal basin
@lavish rover in notifications settings
lavish rover
ic right i knew that
vocal basin
if on phone, then rip
lavish rover
i had just tuned out the default sound i didn't even realize this was that
vocal basin
lmao
vocal basin
I want an option to find games from my library that are currently on sale
recommended stuff: Frostpunk 1, SOMA, Nihilumbra, Haven, OPUS series, Alters, Noctuary, SIGNALIS, Expedition 33
Nihilumbra is quite good
jaunty socket
@calm heron great coder
vocal basin
Noctuary is definitely the current favourite for me
jaunty socket
Noctuary is definitely the current favourite for me
How are you ?
vocal basin
Nihilumbra is quite good
@wind raptor this one only* takes something like 2~4 hours
* you'll find out why not really, but later
KSP 1 is good
KSP 2 is idk
@spice mango (we're in this chat)
(not #off-topic-lounge-text)
@uneven jasper only in that both have orbit mechanics
SpaceEngine and Universe Sandbox are just sandboxes/simulators without any sort of goals
heavy zenith
Echoes of Londor
vocal basin
https://store.steampowered.com/app/220200/Kerbal_Space_Program/
is second part still considered not worth trying?
I didn't buy it
and can't buy it anymore
Homeworld 3 was the biggest sequel disappointment for me
@uneven jasper likely not a server-appropriate game I'd expect
Homeworld is 3D RTS
full 3D
Homeworld 3 is a catastrophe
allegedly
vocal basin
<@1287949767611252747> likely not a server-appropriate game I'd expect
M
it's M
not even R
R is the stuff kids can watch with parents around
I usually rename with accordance to pfp change
which part
@wind raptor for some games it depends on which part of that story/part of gameplay that is, I'd assume
too bad I can't give an example because don't want to spoil
wind raptor
!stream 1287949767611252747
wise cargoBOT
โ @uneven jasper can now stream until <t:1762112685:f>.
vocal basin
recommended stuff: Frostpunk 1, SOMA, Nihilumbra, Haven, OPUS series, Alters, No...
Frostpunk 1 and 2 eventually go non-PG13
SOMA is please don't show this to kids
Nihilumbra is family friendly
Have is ABSOLUTELY DON'T SHOW THIS TO KIDS
Alters is okay as far as I know
Noctuary is [you'll see]
SIGNALIS is too much horror/violence/dismemberment
Expedition 33 has a bit too much violence/death from what I know
@lavish rover can you grep for explain in the C code (compiled)? might be coming from some errno stuff
or did you solve it already
I don't like VMs
low performance, low security
want security => Zones
proper containers
typical VM setup for illumos always involves putting a Zone around the VM because Zones are more secure
Docker is the right way for most cases
if you deploy on your own hardware, there are nearly no reasons to use VMs
if you're a paranoid cloud provider, then Zones+VMs
illumos Zones
this got created a bit earlier than Docker
FreeBSD is security-centric
it is Unix, in a way
direct descendant
Solaris is another Unix
brb
VHS
@uneven jasper well, not really, many disks already back then had mechanisms through which they could revoke your right to view something
especially blu-ray
there is so much copyright enforcement there
you need to keep your disks away from new hardware, and keep your old hardware away from new disks/software/internet
if you want to keep the ownership actually forever
vocal basin
there is so much copyright enforcement there
(push for blu-ray was largely about that)
pirating after the company retroactively revokes your right to use something you bought is morally (and, iirc, in some places legally) justified
e.g. in cases of ToS changing from lifetime license to something more limited
(or lifetime license getting voided by product getting discontinued)
vocal basin
currently playing Tetris Effect, trying to get better score on the first stage
vocal basin
with surface area proportional to the information it consumes
1 bit per square Planck length
very dumb sounding unit but seemingly true
vocal basin
1 bit per square Planck length
* upper limit
Bekenstein bound
I already gave up on GCC and adjacents
all the C/C++ dependencies I need for my Rust stuff I compile with Zig during release builds
cargo zigbuild is the only reliable way to cross-compile
I do write unsafe code sometimes
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/ruchei-wakelist/src/lib.rs
C is getting more complicated
it's getting provenance in the standard
same with C++
(but C++ is already a mess)
operator overloading is mostly fine
just don't misuse it
large part of C++'s good parts is about allowing you to use anything like an int as far as logic allows that
that covers all the copy semantics stuff
heavy zenith
noo cause why can the (, - etc.) do heap allocations
vocal basin
but now that there is also move, this gets complicated
vocal basin
noo cause why can the (, - etc.) do heap allocations
C++/Python/Rust reasoning: addition should be expressed as +
for all types where addition is defined
if you want fallible addition, that is a separate story
C++ OOP and Java OOP are very different
C++ has too many design defects
e.g. std::vector<bool>
if you want better C, then use Zig
custom allocators, and therefore memory leak tracking, is simpler with Zig
it's possible to cross compile Zig to mingw from other hosts
for some of my software I distribute two separate Windows builds, one is MSVC, other is mingw/GNU
vocal basin
I do write `unsafe` code sometimes
<https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main...
(even with all the unsafe {}s, this is still more ergonomic than C)
heavy zenith
ergonomic ?
vocal basin
easier to write and maintain
Rust provides a lot of stuff to get even unsafe parts right
@vital prairie you can just use WASM if you want an isolated environment to run something
... or Lua
I did ~21K lines of manually written code in 12 days at some point, so 4KLoC in 4 days isn't unrealistically much
it's just very simple code
Rust+SQL
the whole point there is that there wasn't much thought required
vital prairie
luna-canidae@[dir]$ python3 randos.py
Please enter a username: LunaCanidae
Enter your password:
Welcome, LunaCanidae
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $ pwd
/home/LunaCanidae
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $ ls
The command ls was not found in /bin
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $ cd
'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $ cd abc
'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $ pwd
/home/LunaCanidae
LunaCanidae@HP-LUNA-5421 [/home/LunaCanidae] $
all the thinking was spent on debugging
debugging performance
which in SQL is quite non-trivial
goal (roughly):
million items, need to find a single item in <1ms
with many complications
indexed
but
need to join multiple tables
vocal basin
with *many* complications
complications mostly were SQLite being way too straightforward
can't do in-memory; embedded
enough disk space, very limited RAM
in practice there's at most something like 10K entries
but during development I test with more, to ensure it performs correctly
you just need not to hit the cases where the DB decides to scan the whole table
just avoid linear search
which isn't always trivial
you need to structure queries in a way that doesn't prevent the database from using indexes
general solution with SQLite:
do joins/conditional logic outside SQLite
i.e. break queries down into multiple steps
with PostgreSQL, do the opposite
(I need to support both)
it's been at 30~40KLoC for the past half year
now adding functionality without adding much code size
(the original code is gradually refactored/rearranged/reduced)
I don't have work schedule
(so I can very much just do 75h one week and 5h the next week)
the exception is only for me, because I need this sort of time inconsistency, otherwise I work way worse
can't you get some sort of flexible schedule out of the company if you have some sort of health condition that prevents you from following normal schedule?
(e.g. untreatable insomnia)
idk how that'd be formally
vocal basin
???
so confused
"well, at least anime acknowledges Australia..."
200 lines after starting, running the splay tree code for the first time
seems to work
I need to somehow visualise the structure
vocal basin
splay tree is one of the binary search tree implementations
one of its differences from the rest is that you need mutable access for search, not just insertion
amortised
however they're 1) fast 2) can be implemented non-recursively 3) function as a naturally emerging cache
recently accessed items tend to remain close to the top
tail recursion is as fast as iteration when implemented right
general rule: don't make performance claims without concrete benchmarks
sometimes recursion is faster, sometimes is slower
definitively saying one of the two is definitively slower is generally incorrect
@viral knot often alternatives to recursion mean you'll have to involve heap instead of stack
by your own words, stack is more efficient
some problems require you to model stack in one way or another
if you choose between heap-based solution and call stack solution (recursion),
do benchmarks and measure, heap might be slower
@viral knot only matrix power
or floating point, but that is kind of questionable
!e
fib = lambda n: round((((1+5**.5)/2)**n-((1-5**.5)/2)**n)/5**.5)
print([fib(i) for i in range(10)])
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34]
@viral knot literally this
golden ratio and the other golden ratio
I wouldn't actually bet on this being the fastest
because floating point
it is O(1)
if you want this to be fast, ensure you're on a CPU which implements floating point
vocal basin
if you choose between heap-based solution and call stack solution (recursion),
d...
this is the main case for why you might want recursion for performance
needing to keep state
the cost comes down to whether it's faster to poke the heap or move the stack pointer
(roughly, terms and conditions may apply)
C/C++/Rust/Zig for performance
ASM for those cases where intrinsics get so ugly that Assembly is more readable
8MB
vocal basin
C/C++/Rust/Zig for performance
ASM for those cases where intrinsics get so ugly ...
compilers are good at optimisations
also that list should include Fortran, yes
C and C++ are introducing more and more UB to allow for optimisations
with provenance and others
Rust is better at disambiguating than those two, so can do more optimisations
idk what state of Zig and optimisations is
viral knot
paper wolf
I thought function are also objects
vocal basin
for asymptotically fast Fibonacci numbers you need power function with matrix multiplication
paper wolf
What is the precision of this???
vocal basin
for asymptotically fast Fibonacci numbers you need power function with matrix mu...
there is a matrix that turns [[fib(n)], [fib(n + 1)]] into [[fib(n + 1)], [fib(n + 2)]],
specifically [[0, 1], [1, 1]];
you need to raise that matrix to power n and then apply it to [[0], [1]], and the first element of the result will be the answer;
that is implemented by breaking it down into calculating power n//2, squaring that, and then multiplying it once more if n%2 is not 0
which is how you calculate fib(1_000_000) in a second
(with big integers)
tail recursion just turns into a goto
you can
just needs to end in return same_function(...)
can only go outside of the function with setjmp/longjmp
which save/restore registers
in strict functional programming, tail recursion
- is a correctness requirement, not an optimisation
- is necessary to implement any otherwise iterative algorithms
so kind of just a different representation of loops
!e
print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 100)())
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000
stuff like this
factorial of 100
no loops, no named recursion
manually implementing recursion
no functions referring to themselves by names
it's, like, doing 100 steps * small constant
!e
x = 1
for i in range(1, 101):
x *= i
print(x)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000
it's, like, a very small example
!e
print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 1_000_000)())
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | print([31m(lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 1_000_000)[0m[1;31m()[0m)
004 | [31m~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[0m[1;31m^^[0m
005 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m, in [35m<lambda>[0m
006 | print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * [31mg()(lambda: x() - 1)[0m[1;31m()[0m)()(lambda: 1_000_000)
... (truncated - too long, too many lines)
Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/KXPTVDOKRDDAHF3SMVZXILIIAA
vocal basin
as you can see, it does not tail recurse
I don't think you can force tail recursion onto that code in Python without loops
or at least some sort of map + repeat weirdness
!d itertools.repeat
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!e
print(*map(max, map(str.__add__, ["", "", "Fizz"] * 100, ["", "", "", "", "Buzz"] * 100), map(str, range(1, 101))), sep="\n")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)
Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/W6ZTER44G3WYCVLVW354UIE72E
upper basin
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D5622AQGC0Xf0w9QmRg/feedshare-shrink_1280/B...
The 3rd one I disagree with. Usually you'd focus on features that you think are useful in your domain. If you're perfecting sth usually I'd bet it's sth others don't have hence the motivation to put in that extra elbow grease.
The 4th one man...the 4th one.
Every hackathon competitor's nightmare.
I remember every time it happened, and every time my heart absolutely sank.
upper basin
!pypi quick-core
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
quick/primitives/operator.py and quick/primitives/contraction.py.
Operator represents a quantum gate, Statevector represents your quantum state, contraction.py contains the logic for applying the gates to the state.
That's basically a bare bone, minimal quantum circuit simulator.
You can take that, and just build a circuit IR (basically a list of tuples, where each tuple is a pair of Operator and list[int] where the list[int] is what qubits you want to apply the gate to), and you simulate it.
After that, it's really just how you want your IR to look like, what levels of abstraction you want (for instance, transpilation so you can convert from arbitrary gates to a set of specific gates) and add features.
Circuit IR itself is not hard to make. What usually makes one circuit library better than the other even when both use the same IR is those features and just pure classical performance in how long the code takes to run.
paper wolf
@dry jasper u getting electrecuted?
dry jasper
paper wolf
yeah thats the vid i watched the first
upper basin
paper wolf
sup @amber basin
amber basin
sup <@864868918455042058>
Good what about you?
paper wolf
just chilling
somber heath
@latent gorge ๐
latent gorge
<@1418372098161901601> ๐
Greetings
i was figuring out with a project i have @somber heath
its wasn't big project though
paper wolf
Choppy audio ๐ญ
vocal basin
sounds okay to me
paper wolf
Well MY internet is the issue
Our internet and electric provider are total shit
It's expensive and you getting at average 200ms delay at good day with 5k Ms when the provider decided to mess with people
And we got at average 3 power outage per month
latent gorge
@somber heath i have big problem with myself in coding
that i do hurry for see results
paper wolf
You ask questions here so we can help :D
Problem solving is a skill a programmer need the most
latent gorge
True i always trying to type fast
i have to remember the keys in my mind first
i know a guy expert in programming he's old , and his fingers are messed up i mean he's maybe about 40s
paper wolf
Just remember if you wanna learn something, don't wait for help just start doing it
Not everyone need to follow the way other do
latent gorge
but if u stuck , what about this
paper wolf
If you are stuck and can't progress, ask some help or find something that could help
Like nowadays it's easu to unstuck when you learning something
Almost everything was digitalized and can be find with just one click
latent gorge
im learning from a course , now
paper wolf
Just make sure you are not going into some rabbit hole
Searching is another skill a programmer needs
latent gorge
Just make sure you are not going into some rabbit hole
im trying , and i do search too
paper wolf
Not even a greatest programmer can memorize everything on back of their head
I mean I still search how to print on java.....
Lol
latent gorge
lol ik
paper wolf
Also we got AI now, it's basically a talking google than can respond on your follow-up or more complicated questions
dense ibex
!reminders
wise cargoBOT
amber raptor
!reminders
Go to class?
woeful blaze
Current project
A.D.R.S
- Automated
- Defense
- Reconsens
- System
heavy zenith
explain
woeful blaze
It's a fire wall
woeful blaze
Reconnaissance.
woeful blaze
explain
It's a firewall that if hacked tests the other side firewall and deploys actions against malware that's possible Lee coming through the open link and sends maybe automatic shutdown to the computer
limpid portal
@brave sluice my website(sorry for long URL): https://thumbnails-racial-parent-argued.trycloudflare.com/home/
brave sluice
vocal basin
please, for your own accounts' standings' benefit, don't send trycloudflare links
paper wolf
hmmmm i dont think those links is good
wise loom
@paper wolf you left?
paper wolf
rtc connecting ๐ญ
craggy vale
somber heath
@flat herald ๐
wise loom
mortal kraken
Have you ever seen those chod SSDS that are real short
all mine are the long ones
2280
do i gut unmute from chat
wise loom
do i gut unmute from chat
somber heath
@lavish rover https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Kernel-WebAssembly
wise loom
From my gmail..
Learn how to vibe code like the best
whole bear
Shpongolese spoken here
somber heath
@torpid flame ๐
primal shadow
iron geyser
@wise loom But i am not finished. I have many work. I must to create a stable diffusion pictures for my website.
wise loom
https://copy.sh/v86/
https://copy.sh/v86/ - more sandboxes, no login, obscure os-es, directly emulated in browser, somewhat slow
https://instantworkstation.com/ - different arches and distros, no login
https://distrosea.com/ - sandbox for VMs, no login
https://neverinstall.com/ - cool, allows selecting apps to pre-provision the VM with, multiple distros, haven't tried yet, requires login
https://www.bellard.org/jslinux/ - alpine, win2k, freedos, fedora 33, buildroot
https://win32.run/ - windows xp kindof
https://lrusso.github.io/VirtualXP/VirtualXP.htm - windows xp, for real
whole bear
Chris
wind raptor
I guess it was the essential phone
I don't remember that name but this is definitely it
wise loom
looks sci-fi
wind raptor
looks sci-fi
360 camera attachment was really cool
wise loom
360 camera attachment was really cool
nice, 1st time i see a 360 cam
wind raptor
did you check the drama list I sent you ๐
Yeah, I started watching Revenant.
๐
whole bear
Yeah, I started watching Revenant.
frrrrrr????
wise loom
AI gives only benefits..
gaming is more expensive because AI uses GPUs
server ram is more expensive because AI uses tons of memory..
craggy vale
https://copy.sh/v86/ - more sandboxes, no login, obscure os-es, directly emulate...
hmmmm
vocal basin
I'm adding colours to the splay tree visualisation I'm making
(to see how the recently fetched keys behave)
woeful blaze
how are you doing today mindeful dev
vocal basin
I'm adding colours to the splay tree visualisation I'm making
don't tempt me to protest-buy it on Steam instead
vocal basin
okay now that this is somewhat done, back to gaming
vocal basin
minimal effort visualisation
echo bison
Pleasing to look at
echo bison
I thought of moving `----`s a layer up
Honestly, its already pretty good
vocal basin
it actually does this, just hides all the non-first items in each column
whole bear
lol i gotta fix my microphone, well what are you guys doin
echo bison
lol i gotta fix my microphone, well what are you guys doin
Downloading Bendy and the Ink machine :)
vocal basin
(there is a book named that)
I don't remember doing anything class-heavy in pygame, it's way too imperative for that to be the central part
and, like, it's not really a game engine, so not centred about life cycles of entities
remote grove
It's a graph
haughty pier
Cisco?
surreal moth
vocal basin
this image single-handedly discredited entire nixcademy for me
vocal basin
this should have โจ emoji next to it
haughty pier
Who has been Pythoning lately?
haughty pier
oh, look, the site references itself
single-handedly dogpiling nixcademy there I see
vocal basin
- (contributor list)
reaching myself from nixcademy's website
useless speedrun
it's like those speedruns they do on wikipedia
vocal basin
it's like those speedruns they do on wikipedia
(picking two pages, getting from one to another in minimal amount of clicks)
@haughty pier if you use any AI, you won't
paying for/using ChatGPT => give up preemptively
if you use AI, you aren't and won't be an expert at Rust
it is, 100%
vocal basin
https://chatgpt.com/share/690a3567-9370-800e-b4bb-6150ddd82b98
sending shit like this already qualifies you as one
spoiler: you won't find any
for grammar, it can just copy-paste the reference
reference now even has diagrams for syntax
scarlet halo
whole bear
@wind raptor can i stream?
vocal basin
has anyone ran make all on that?
haughty pier
reference now even has diagrams for syntax
link me?
vocal basin
whole bear
working on my os
wind raptor
!stream 1379884144070365367
wise cargoBOT
โ @whole bear can now stream until <t:1762279718:f>.
scarlet halo
your own os from scratch
how's that AI CPU going?
vocal basin
has anyone ran `make all` on that?
if I understand correctly, -j with anything above 1 will mess up the order there
craggy vale
how's that AI CPU going?
hmm so after doing some calculation I made it only in math not irl
like I calculate how much core and treats and how much watt it consume how much fast it can run in Ghz
vocal basin
craggy vale
how's that AI CPU going?
btw I'm not working on how much nm chip and silicon stuffs
doing calculation on cpu planing
vocal basin
@whole bear why snap?
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> why `snap`?
no
craggy vale
how's that AI CPU going?
btw it's x86 based cpu not arm
scarlet halo
btw it's x86 based cpu not arm
wouldn't that get you into legal issues eventually
iirc only amd and intel are allowed to make x86 cpu's
i could be wrong ofc
craggy vale
wouldn't that get you into legal issues **eventually**
hmmm idk that really about legal stuffs
scarlet halo
ARM is heavily proprietary too
damn didn't know that haha
craggy vale
for now I try to build a simple source prototype of my CPU
Cores: 64 (4 ร 16 CCD) | Threads: 128 (SMT2)
Base / Boost: 3.2 GHz / 4.5 GHz
Vector: 512-bit BF16/FP16/FP32 SIMD
AI Tile: 4,096 MACs @ 2.0 GHz (โ16 TOPS peak FP16) (example)
L1/I+D: 64 KB / 64 KB per core | L2: 512 KB per core | L3: 64 MB per CCD (256 MB total)
Memory: 8ร DDR5-6400 (โ409 GB/s)
PCIe: 128 ร Gen5 lanes
TDP: 280โ350 W
Socket: Large LGA (Threadripper style)
OS: x86-64 Linux
a starting source
vocal basin
some random website is ripping people off by selling RISC-V licenses
they might get in trouble for that since they're violating the trademark license (which is a separate thing that can't be bought this way either) by selling something that claims to be directly related to RISC-V
(RISC-V is trademarked, in part to prevent this stuff, but crime is legal now anyway, so who cares)
elastic ML
AI training on demand does sound quite cursed
"we have no idea how much money we're planning to waste on this, because our bosses change their opinion every hour"
shards are the secret sauce in the AI business, you just turn them on and it scaled right up
AI SCALE
vocal basin
write Wolfram instead and pretend it's MatLab
I started using Wolfram only 12 years ago, fun times
warped crystal
Mathematics is an addiction
vocal basin
โ math
โ
meth
mossy cedar
https://tenor.com/view/i%27m-great-i%27m-better-thangreat-i-am-good-matt-leblanc...
yep that's all math ppl and physics ppl
whole bear
ill be back i need to reboot to Windows
wise loom
Are you guys working on any projects?
[...]
Hold on I'm getting a call
[..]
Ok I gotta go!
warped crystal
I sometimes just like to hear people talk since I'm Alone most of the time
mossy cedar
meshtastic
vocal basin
meanwhile USA: yeah, this sounds like an okay place to deport people to
mossy cedar
actually meshtastic is LoRa (low-power, long-range wireless)
like i said i'm not as educated to tell about it
vocal basin
for all beginners whom I supervise more directly, I ensure they start using uv from day 1
wise loom
like i said i'm not as educated to tell about it
the frequency bands are different, but the range is the biggest difference. LoRa(meshtastic) is 10-15km range with clear line-of-sight. bluetooth is ~10-20m typically.
vocal basin
regardless of whether a beginner or an expert, for most of the things: same tooling, same workflow
mossy cedar
the frequency bands are different, but the range is the biggest difference. LoRa...
yeahh
warped crystal
Didn't even realize you had an accent
xD
Yu
H
Yuh
Can you guys send me screenshot of some confusing codes I Just wanna see if my friend understand it keke
He's been bragging that he knows how to code
And I should join him
warped crystal
Ty
mossy cedar
And I should join him
doy you not code stuff?
warped crystal
doy you not code stuff?
I'm curious tho
How much do you guys kake
Make
Per month
mossy cedar
I'm curious tho
start. just watch a python tutorial for basic
warped crystal
I'm thinking if it's worth it to change job
scarlet halo
warped crystal
WHAT@mossy cedar
I make like 5kโฌ per month
For cleaning ship's
And maintaining
I pay mortgage tho
amber raptor
I make like 5kโฌ per month
What currency is that?
warped crystal
Euro
Not included tax btw
So basically uh if I get rid of tax and mortgage
I still make 1200
warped crystal
You lose 60% to taxes?
Mortgage
amber raptor
Trying to break into this industry right now is pretty hard
warped crystal
What If I just hire you guys
amber raptor
Maybe get deck rating?
warped crystal
For like 1kโฌ per month
vocal basin
What If I just hire you guys
rule 9
vocal basin
lmao
warped crystal
Just hypothetical
amber raptor
In any case, technology hiring is in toilet so switching would be difficult
patent mural
my mom is shundori
vocal basin
there however is a nuance with AI:
it does less work with more people having to be involved
it's not a productivity tool
(unlike with automation in manufacturing industry)
@primal shadow even when America does ban it, corporations don't care
see Uber
mossy cedar
what did uber do
vocal basin
Tesla and Uber believe they're above the law
vocal basin
what did uber do
greyball
mossy cedar
and that mean..................
vocal basin
@haughty pier 0
exactly 0
to be fair, by definition from Haskell docs, many does include 0
@primal shadow (that is funnier because it, for reasons, can't be used as fertiliser, but some company would still pretend it can)
venture capital: it doesn't have to make sense
vocal basin
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Uber#Greyball>
and everything else
Tesla don't want to use anything other than cameras
they refuse to use lidar
primal shadow
haughty pier
vocal basin
even the damn cleaning robots use lidar
Tesla only refuse to use lidar just because Musk is an infantile idiot who thinks "humans can drive with just eyes, therefore cars can drive with just cameras, therefore we must not use anything other than cameras"
@primal shadow Uber did the same, but that was years ago
how about this revolutionary idea:
REDUCE CAR COUNT
"bUt ThiS iS uNamEricaN"
heavy zenith
trains
primal shadow
Unamerican is all the rage these days
perfect time to jump on it\
the "patriots" are tearing down eveyrthing tha was good about AMerica
Going full 'merica to spite the libs
Didn't need my nose anyways
vocal basin
there was a crazy idea, that, I think, even got implemented:
to avoid taking up parking space, let the empty car loiter around on the roads instead
primal shadow
wise loom
calm heron
!e
print("Hello Aaron!")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello Aaron!
print("hi")
How ya doing?
mossy cedar
trynna figure out how do you put codes in discord
mossy cedar
!e
print("hi")
you got it
mossy cedar
yes sirr
haughty pier
!e
import sys
print(sys.version)
!e
printf("hi in c too");
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 JIT-compilation enabled eval job has completed with return code 0.
3.14.0 (main, Oct 14 2025, 03:25:51) [GCC 12.2.0]
does printf even work anymore?
mossy cedar
its c
calm heron
I thought that was a python 2 thing