:^) maybe i can get voice verified
#voice-chat-text-0
viral solar
half sonnet
and I'm on the slippery slope though๐ฅน
viral solar
my co worker began learning how to code and gave up said "whats thepoint, ai will always do it better?" and i said 'imagine using a calculator without knowing any math - while you can trust the calculator is correct, you can never explain why, so whats the point?"
[1:54 AM]
APP
Python:
Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have not been active enough on the server yet. < im really sad
definitely not
LLM is just probability
half sonnet
even though I can easily understand the code written by AI and I can write the code by myself but in that I'm a bit slower
viral solar
the specialized/generalized neural network may have an LLM or many LLMs to interact with it
or like when your llm tells you to type in SUSSY linux commands and you brick your pc
then thats not vibe coding anymore
half sonnet
@somber heath It's quit personal but can I ask you are you a senior python dev or working in somewhere? As you are explaining it like a senior
half sonnet
Well Nice to hear that
viral solar
to me profressional == paid
VERY NICE!
i like how opal put the other way of profressional, theres the literal sense and the peronality sense
O__O
half sonnet
You know what @somber heath you are the first person I've meet here in discord who's behavior is very well
half sonnet
yeah I like your humor bro
half sonnet
@stray pewter bro where are you from?
viral solar
ive been in this server for months but dont talk too often
yes
get those ICE ads on your videos
better left unsaid ๐
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
yeah i talked to a guy about drones and he was going crazy i had to stop
mining?
such a russian way to solve problems
this sounds like a sci fi story
O_O
O___________O
dont ask chatgpt
i remember my physics teacher teaching us how to do this kind of thing
half sonnet
guys I can't hear you
@stray pewter where are you from ?
@stray pewter you sounds like you are from china correct me if I'm wrong
stray pewter
wise loom
podcast with tech bros: "how you guys feel about claude/chatgpt?"
on discord: "how you guys feel about claude/chatgpt?"
cockatoo in cage: "how you guys feel about claude/chatgpt?"
somber heath
I've been watching some AI video stuff.
The technology is remarkable and disturbing.
paper wolf
no, technology is remarkable, human are disturbing
somber heath
The good stuff is often indistinguishable from the real.
@bitter furnace ๐
@mighty linden ๐
@arctic adder ๐
paper wolf
i just joined and bunch of fella followed ๐ณ
somber heath
You must have a magnetic personality.
paper wolf
@peak depot what u doin?
peak depot
trying to calm down so I can sschool stuff
paper wolf
school stuff???
peak depot
yes?
paper wolf
oh....
peak depot
work diary
paper wolf
i thought you alr finished college
somber heath
@solar ridge ๐
peak depot
university
solar ridge
sup
peak depot
why people can't call university a school? you learn there, right?
solar ridge
why people can't call university a school? you learn there, right?
it's different.
like for example in some country you first go to school then college and finally university.
paper wolf
welp idk the difference between college and uni ._.
solar ridge
@somber heath r u also stuck in the vc mute status? like I'm?
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> r u also stuck in the vc mute status? like I'm?
No, I usually talk, however, at the moment, I'm avoiding talking at night as that would currently disturb other people in the house.
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
Yes.
Nothing currently other than what you see here.
MEU and background buzz have been an ongoing topic of conversation.
paper wolf
lol
peak depot
no
somber heath
Not I.
Well, only if you discount the from scratch thing I tried, once.
I used three dots of colour and a grid of black and white squares to hold basic data.
Different colour per dot.
It was like my own take on qr codes.
It worked under ideal, virtual conditions, but from a webcam was less reliable.
mighty linden
wise cargoBOT
paper wolf
sounds like auto tune
i personally code more than 12 hours a day (when no school days)
wind raptor
!projects
wise cargoBOT
paper wolf
@wind raptor i feel that last one will delete bunch of stuff ๐
am i the only one hearing prime_loki sounding like autotune?
bitter furnace
craggy vale
wind raptor
craggy vale
solar ridge
@wind raptor i think my router got some issue. I'm getting disconnected
craggy vale
my Cluster be like:
hardware- 2xPS4pro + pi5 with 26tops + NAS server + a wifi router
software- debian + opencl + C++ + Python
Network Config- all devices (2รPS4 Pro, Raspberry Pi 5, NAS) over a wired LAN and assign static IPs to ensure stability.
OpenCL Across All Nodes- all opencl drivers are install ps and pi and some development tools
Parallel Computing Using MPI- large datasets programs
AI Workflows- (
"Python"- for to use numpy for arrays, mpi4py for distributed tasks, and pyopencl for GPU compute.
"C++"- working on high-performance kernels using OpenCL C and use MPI libraries for communication between nodes.
"Storage"- Config NAS as shared storage using NFS and SSHFS for communication method all devices)
wind raptor
Almost 9:30am here @solar ridge
craggy vale
I think using googlecolabe and working like this are lot of deference
because if I use googlecolabe stuffs to train llm model
I can only understand how to train model like that
and my way is doing all stuffs on hardware and software together
what u think @wind raptor
and that's a challenging fun working on hardware modding ps4 with pi it's a fun
I see the programming like working on hardware + software together kinda like that
working on own tpu making own version of pytorch tensorflow
kinda home lab
wind raptor
!pypi pyinstaller-gui
wise cargoBOT
wind raptor
amber raptor
This is still lipstick on a pig.
paper wolf
whats wrong with it
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @thick laurel until <t:1761921514:f> (4 days).
cursive path
Hey anyone have a job for me
Sorry
Thanks ๐
There is a lot of competition and also I am underage
I am only 13 my studies are not hard
Are you the dev of this discord
I hate teaching
Yeah that's why I learned python
Only 5 to 6
I am beginner
Yeah you are right but I was thinking that I can help people make their projects
Can I ask you ? what do you hate the most in python
The only thing I hate is while loops
You are right but while loops are hard
Hey can somebody tell what is the use of git
Where did you guys learn python
wind raptor
Hey can somebody tell what is the use of git
Version control
amber raptor
whats wrong with it
Python and GUI Apps are just not great. You will fight with performance and speed all the time.
cursive path
Where did you guys learn python
?
wind raptor
Where did you guys learn python
Udemy
whole bear
Where did you guys learn python
never learnt it just heard people talk about it on this server and now i can write for loops atleast
cursive path
I am learning python from youtube
You know this much
You really know full web development
paper wolf
Python and GUI Apps are just not great. You will fight with performance and spee...
who is coding performance reliant application using python??
solar ridge
๐
runic prairie
Cheeling
runic prairie
Hi
misty bough
how are you SD
misty bough
we are good
runic prairie
This voice verification sucks
runic prairie
Not able to speak
runic prairie
Yeah I have to stay active
runic prairie
Yeah 90 mins
misty bough
bruh
primal shadow
Where did you guys learn python
Automate the Boring Stuff was fun
unique olive
ey
primal shadow
hello
woeful blaze
Take me out to the Ball game
primal shadow
๐ฎ
rancid ether
primal shadow
primal shadow
!ytdl
wise cargoBOT
scarlet halo
@somber heath
somber heath
#media-processing message @jaunty socket
bitter furnace
bitter furnace
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def func():
pass
print(func)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<function func at 0x7f5bb280f320>
I use def to make a function object. func is a name that points to this function object. I then print this object by its name. We see this object is a function.
Let's make it more interesting.
!e ```py
def func():
print("Hello, world.")
func()
func()
func()```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def func():
print("Hello, world.")
func()
func()
func()```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | Hello, world.
002 | Hello, world.
003 | Hello, world.
I create the function object. I assign a variable/name to this object, func. This function's purpose, when called (invoked, caused to be run) is to print "Hello, world.".
I then call this function three times.
Causing the text to be printed three times.
Ignore the 001 | parts.
print("Hello, world.")```A function can be thought of a collection of code.
You can ask it to be run zero or more times, as needed.
def func():
print("Hello, world.")
print("Goodbye.")```@jaunty socket I'm back.
fluid crest
Hello ๐
jaunty socket
<@1427965459633799189> I'm back.
do you still here @somber heath
jaunty socket
Hello ๐
hello friend
jaunty socket
It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks
were striking thirteen.
Winston Smith, his chin nuzzled
into his breast in an effort
to escape the vile wind, slipped quickly
through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him.
runic prairie
Hey @jaunty socket
Voice verification is pending
Thats why I canโt talk
How did you get rid of it?
You are here to learn English?
jaunty socket
It was a bright
cold day in April,
and the clocks
were striking thirteen.
Winston Smith,
his chin nuzzled
into his breast
in an effort
to escape the vile wind,
slipped quickly
through the glass doors
of Victory Mansions,
though not quickly enough
to prevent a swirl
of gritty dust
from entering
along with him.
The hallway smelt
of boiled cabbage
and old rag mats.
At one end of it
a coloured poster,
too large
for indoor display,
had been tacked
to the wall.
runic prairie
What you guys doing?
jaunty socket
What you guys doing?
read story
raw marten
how can i verify voice, jst wanted to talk sth
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
fleet drum
HI EVERYONE , iam new here cant speak , but i was asking , am a biomedical engineer and i want to start learnig python , mainly i want to analysie data and to make machine learning model , and tbh i dont know where to start from , i studied the harvard c250 course , what do u reccomend me to start with , i would be gratefull
raw marten
!voice
wise cargoBOT
raw marten
i tried voice verify, but failed
jaunty socket
HI EVERYONE , iam new here cant speak , but i was asking , am a biomedical engin...
CS50P: Introduction to Programming with Python
raw marten
You have not been active enough on the server yet.
somber heath
raw marten
where is intro channel?
somber heath
Intro....to Python?
raw marten
i tried voice verify but failed
fleet drum
can some one send me a road map for the whole things i need to learn and practise , also if there is a. biomedical engineers here to know about python and engineering applications mainly for bme
raw marten
if i click voice verify btn,` Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have not been active enough on the server yet.`
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
fleet drum
thanks guys
raw marten
plz help me to verify voice
Been consistently active for 1 hour 30 minutes.
maybe i didn't meet this requirement?
jaunty socket
CS50P: Introduction to Programming with Python
runic prairie
Hey
Voice verification is pending bro
Data Science
I am working right now btw
Have 3 yoe
As a backend dev
Yoe: years of experience
Oh
I know python
Just here to get some idea on what kind of stuff people making with python
Intermediate
Like its okayish
Its good bro
runic prairie
Like its okayish
I was talking about myself
jaunty socket
It was a bright
cold day in April,
and the clocks
were striking thirteen.
Winston Smith,
his chin nuzzled
into his breast
in an effort
to escape the vile wind,
slipped quickly
through the glass doors
of Victory Mansions,
though not quickly enough
to prevent a swirl
of gritty dust
from entering
along with him.
The hallway smelt
of boiled cabbage
and old rag mats.
At one end of it
a coloured poster,
too large
for indoor display,
had been tacked
to the wall.
somber heath
"Wind" is a homonym.
somber heath
@fleet drum ๐
fleet drum
hi
fleet drum
<@764983803746713600> ๐
sorry i wasnt looking to the chat
cerulean ridge
that's a well paint?
fleet drum
that's a well paint?
ink
jaunty socket
ping
fossil sundial
hii
somber heath
!e ```py
def func(parameter):
print(parameter)
func("Hello, world.")
func("Goodbye.")```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def func(parameter):
print(parameter)
func("Hello, world.")
func("...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | Hello, world.
002 | Goodbye.
!e ```py
def add(a, b):
print(a + b)
add(1, 2)```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def add(a, b):
print(a + b)
add(1, 2)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
3
!e ```py
def add(a, b):
print(a)
print(b)
print(a + b)
add(1, 2)```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def add(a, b):
print(a)
print(b)
print(a + b)
add(1, 2)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | 3
OpalMist-writing-code
somber heath
!e ```py
def func():
return "Hello, world."
print(func())```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def func():
return "Hello, world."
print(func())```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, world.
The object that is given to the return keyword is what the function call evaluates to / what the function call becomes.
"Hello, world." replaces func() (the one in the print)
print(func())
# becomes
print("Hello, world.")```!print-return
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!e ```py
def func(value):
return value
print(func("Hello, world."))```
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
def func(value):
return value
print(func("Hello, world."))```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, world.
there is ast
somber heath
name = input("What is your name?")
print(f"Hello, {name}.")```name = "OpalMist"
!e py name = "OpalMist" # name = input("What is your name?") print(f"Hello, {name}.")
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
name = "OpalMist" # name = input("What is your name?")
print(f"Hello, ...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, OpalMist.
"
somber heath
!e py name = "OpalMist" print(f"Hello, {name}.")
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
name = "OpalMist"
print(f"Hello, {name}.")```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello, OpalMist.
sympols
somber heath
symbols
jaunty socket
"
wise cargoBOT
torn spire
<@1270476634981531781> ๐
hello
somber heath
@carmine vapor ๐
vocal basin
Discord is back to life, but now AWS is blocked
somber heath
Hoya. Wanna move to the 1 channel?
vocal basin
it's the functioning voice server
seems like, when it starts with c-, it works
rotterdam doesn't work, some other one doesn't either
somber heath
Ah.
Hiii.
I'm not doing much.
@dusky pier ๐
Sure.
@cerulean stump ๐
@humble gazelle ๐
humble gazelle
Hi @somber heath
somber heath
@dusky pier ๐
willow light
in class, but still monitoring the situation
peak depot
I saw a video of the winds atm in Jamaica
willow light
Well the surface winds in the eyewall are still 150 kt, which is approx. 277 kph
willow light
kt is knots, or nautical miles per hour, where a nautical mile is defined in terms of a fraction of a degree longitude
so a nautical mile on earth is different from a nautical mile on the moon
somber heath
Hi hi.
willow light
it works better than metric in this case because spherical coordinates
quartz beacon
it works better than metric in this case because spherical coordinates
Spherical coordinates
willow light
spherical coordinates apply regardless of atmospheric conditions or lack thereof
quartz beacon
Some smart convos going around here
willow light
so yeah, knots works better for weather because the math is much easier. same reason why we use pressure for vertical coordinates, since then we can ignore fluctuations in density
(except during the winter when we use entropy as the vertical coordinate)
willow light
still holding out hope for an eyewall replacement cycle, there's still time
ERC usually briefly weakens the storm, and it won't have time to restrengthen before it slams into the mountainous terrain
btw the metric vs imperial debate is meaningless with category 5 hurricanes because it doesn't matter what system you use, those winds are still very difficult to survive
vocal basin
@wind raptor more doubly linked lists
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/ruchei-wakelist/src/lib.rs
vocal basin
made written
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> more doubly linked lists
<https://github.com/parrrate/ruch...
this partially implements Arc
but semantically nodes don't own each other, the overall root does
or rather specifically the Queue struct
Queue and Nodes sharedly own Root
Queue and Wakers sharedly own Nodes
the linked ownership is gone once Queue is dropped
somber heath
People need to think bigger. Poly-linked nodes. Each node can connect to an arbitrary number of other nodes.
vocal basin
People need to think bigger. Poly-linked nodes. Each node can connect to an arbi...
in this case, each currently connects to up to 20 others
if I counted correctly
performance and ease of use
2 for ownership
4 for queues
2 * 7 for subsets
somber heath
class Node:
def __init__(self):
self.next = self```this is how many of the nodes are initialised there
except there is also self.prev = self
OpalMist predicting all the design decisions
somber heath
My shitposts are prophetic? Neat!
vocal basin
in a cyclic doubly-linked list, it's simpler to have edge nodes link to a stub than to null
somber heath
Name it toe.
vocal basin
left stack bottom half is the stub node
somber heath
Toe stub.
vocal basin
stream there is uninitialised
the most important thing there is how Wakers get created
because here it involves 0 extra allocations
just increments a reference counter
another nice thing is how it's impossible to push a previously deleted item into the queue
it doesn't yet automatically clear out the deleted items out of the queue, just ignores them when pulling
(but the pushing is blocked altogether)
vocal basin
it doesn't *yet* automatically clear out the deleted items out of the queue, jus...
I'll probably implement that soon
removal happens rarely, so should be okay just to pull all items out of there into the subset lists
somber heath
@midnight agate It's good.
willow light
air force hurricane hunter is just now exiting the eye through the northeast eyewall (strongest winds in the storm) so we'll probably get final intensity estimates for landfall in a few minutes. pressure is below 900 hPa, so we're definitely in the list of top ten strongest hurricanes ever.
which really sucks for jamaica
vocal basin
somber heath
Is a washing line out of the question?
Too British.
Got it.
Depends on the weather, but sure.
willow light
probably yes
somber heath
Absorbent bra. Drying rack.
willow light
That's a T8 if I ever saw one
somber heath
Firmware updates?
vocal basin
@wind raptor subscription-based, so you can pay on the spot
willow light
somber heath
But if you were going to do that sort of thing, something with more range would make sense.
willow light
893 and still getting stronger...this is actually insane to see happen in real time
somber heath
You pay the company for you to use your own machine.
willow light
(893 hectopascals is absurdly powerful, definitely in the top 10 for the entire atlantic basin, period)
somber heath
probably yes
vocal basin
"wouldn't say <...> is tough, would say <...> is dense instead" also works as a description of a person
somber heath
๐ ๐
vestal heron
@peak depot can you explain me diff between data science is an interdisciplinary or data science is an multidisciplinary
heavy zenith
@vocal basin
is it more efficient speed wise to use a linkedlist vs an Arraylist in a stringbuilder.
especially is it worth copying values from one array to another to increase the chance of a cache hit.
Vs using the linkedlist which is faster when adding new memory.
lastly in the arraylist the data is already in an array form which can just be treated as a string opposed to the linkedlist
where to get a string it has to be iterated over
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515>
is it more efficient speed wise to use a linkedlist vs a...
what is the use case/broader context?
vestal heron
can you explain me diff between data science is an interdisciplinary or data science is an multidisciplinary
vocal basin
what methods does the builder provide in this case?
heavy zenith
strings up to 1024 bytes mostly.
it provides an append method that would be the bigges usecase
and a tostring at the end
giving back a char *
vocal basin
doing one big array with characters sounds like the worst option
so either growing array of fragments or linked list of fragments
between those two, really need to measure
heavy zenith
thx
vocal basin
arrays are smaller, especially in this case where an item is just a pointer to a fragment + its length
vocal basin
strings up to 1024 bytes mostly.
it provides an append method that would be the ...
C strings or strings paired with lengths?
heavy zenith
C strings
whole bear
wanna play codingame?
vocal basin
(if they were lengthed, this would be the structure, to save space on lengths)
/// not how you'd do this in Rust/wherever, more like pseudo-code that happens to compile
/// in reality, N and M would be non-const
struct Array<const N: usize, const M: usize> {
fragments: [*const char; N],
/// u16 because smallest type where 1024 fits
lengths: [u16; N],
capacity: M,
}
okay
heavy zenith
(if they *were* lengthed, this would be the structure, to save space on lengths)...
thank you
vocal basin
whole bear
ready?
whole bear
me neither
vocal basin
I was slightly concerned we'd have to do pair counting
vocal basin
I read enough of it to see what happens
vocal basin
I read enough of it to see what happens
keywords 360 and d
whole bear
i am trying to learn python who better to play than you for that purpose i am reading your solution lol
inline for loops are fun i should start using it
vocal basin
I do not m % k even in real code when checking divisibility
moreso because it's familiar than because it's short
vocal basin
they still didn't fix this
very lage scale
I almost did the right thing and almost wrote "".join
whole bear
print(s[i..] for i in len(s), sep="\n"
print([s[i..] for i in len(s)], sep="\n"
i barely know python lmao
whole bear
oh
whole bear
is the asterick for unpacking list or tuple
vocal basin
any iterable
whole bear
:o
vocal basin
in pattern position, collects into a list
!e
first, *rest = 0, 1, 2, 3
print(first, rest)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
0 [1, 2, 3]
and in function arguments, iirc, collects into a tuple
whole bear
i dont understand what an inline standlaong for expression represent without packing it into an array or tuple
whole bear
in pattern position, collects into a list
oh its like the spread operator in js
vocal basin
i dont understand what an inline standlaong for expression represent without pac...
it creates a generator, which implements iterator methods
vocal basin
and in function arguments, iirc, collects into a tuple
!e
def f(first, *rest):
print(first, rest)
f(0, 1, 2, 3)
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0 (1, 2, 3)
!e
g = (x**2 for x in [1, 2, 3])
print(next(g))
print(next(g))
print(next(g))
try:
next(g)
except StopIteration:
print("done")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1
002 | 4
003 | 9
004 | done
oh wow interesting
i absolutely did not know that
vocal basin
let mut g = [1, 2, 3].into_iter().map(|x| x.pow(2));
println!("{}", g.next().unwrap());
println!("{}", g.next().unwrap());
println!("{}", g.next().unwrap());
if g.next().is_none() {
println!("done");
}
lol dont think i know rust just because i am in that server
the only lang i know confidently is js it has generators but its not used alot
crystal fox
primal shadow
I used to say, "it's better than the alternative" but I am starting to wonder.
@crystal fox
Don't die
best way to get past 30
if you die before 30, you're unlikely to make it past 30
avoid mortal wounds
and fatal errors
(except in your programs, they happen)
You can do stupid things
vocal basin
"do stupid things in moderation"
primal shadow
Just not ones that kill you
whole bear
exactly
primal shadow
I'm not convinced the admins will buy
whole bear
why wont they
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @silk fiber until <t:1762007727:f> (4 days).
primal shadow
lol@those spams
I managed to capture one of hte images because the bot is slow today
vocal basin
did they start sending more messages at once
primal shadow
it's a photo of a monitor with a tweet on there
I thought it was a big image, but I snagged just a normal sized one
so I think it was multiple
vocal basin
I managed to capture one of hte images because the bot is slow today
fourth message in a row is what triggers the bot
vocal basin
so if they send less, the message sometimes remains for longer
possibly because they get timed out by discord itself earlier
whole bear
i need to go rn we can play codingame if you are still down later
vocal basin
okay
solar ridge
@crystal fox catch ya later
primal shadow
hi
runic prairie
Hi
primal shadow
Howdy
Mostly frontend at the moment
not mobile
I guess mobile is frontend
vanilla
nah
js
css
etc
nah
wind raptor
!cpban 1425100768918245446
primal shadow
I don't think we even have bootstrap in this guy
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @patent loom until <t:1762009029:f> (4 days).
primal shadow
Manually making shit
IDK
I really hate a lot of it
like the input elem ent
why can't I easily pad the inside?
like this
Why must it be shoved ALL The way to the fuckin left
and why can't I easily shift it a few damn pixels
although now padding-left works inside the field...
when I tried the other day it moved the whole thing over
lol
I fuckin hate it sometimes
wind raptor
!cpban 1259134737164013628
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @sharp lichen until <t:1762009229:f> (4 days).
primal shadow
padding-left is now moving the inside, the other day it was moving the outside
IDK
nope
followed the googles and was thinking I was lied to, but now I decided to try again
I did it wrong somewhere
๐คท
the joys of vanilla
You've been here nearly 2 years and got stuck at the gate?
wind raptor
!projects
wise cargoBOT
primal shadow
Make twitter with less racism
wind raptor
wise cargoBOT
โ @coarse apex can now stream until <t:1761670912:f>.
wind raptor
!stream 1171128109156810807
wise cargoBOT
โ @coarse apex can now stream until <t:1761671252:f>.
primal shadow
ewww java
whole bear
haughty pier
Get-ChildItem Env:VARIABLE_NAME
@coarse apex see above
Coding means perpetually not knowing how to overcome your current blocker under you finally do.
wise cargoBOT
primal shadow
It was cool when you said "Be my coach"
then you said "I'll pay you"
Which is where rule breaking happens, when money tries to appear.
But you said $60 and hten the conversation shifted to rules ๐
Shhh
we don't talk about that
except money
no no no
primal shadow
@whole bear
Them's the rules
This server is about the FREE SHARING OF INFORMATION
not for profit
You can earn elsewhere
this is not the place to solicit work
whole bear
well unlike you i dont take any rule for granted
primal shadow
You can coach them, do it
Don't solicit paid work ehere
it's really simple
IMO
"I'll coach you through your homework assignment"
"I'll coach you through that task you have to do by tomorrow AM"
I โค๏ธ answering questions
Does it involve money?
!rule 9
wise cargoBOT
primal shadow
We can speak about what we do for money
just not tell each other to pay each other
to do things
It's a community, not a corporation
"Chris, how much do you charge others for your services?"
Start at 0
lol
You get a very different answer
Java Ewwwwww
fuck larry ellison
lol
'really good' to uh
Like Java?
Very attached to Java
lime relic
dude just said java ewu
wind raptor
"Chris, how much do you charge others for your services?"
More than $1
primal shadow
Be uber careful with AWS
whole bear
More than $1
ban
lime relic
@whole bear dude could u pls share that yt links iam gonna drill it from day after tomorrow!!
primal shadow
Just don't fuck it up ๐
free -> $$$$ is a bad time
"have to"
why do you "have to" stream to help someone?
Wouldn't they be the one that needs to share?
Private calls are unblocked by the server ๐
lime relic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J2YOV6LcwY
thnx mate
primal shadow
A less racist twitter clone
A racist free twitter clone
The best jobs want you to pay them first
That's how you know it's legit
wind raptor
primal shadow
I don't think you read the rules.
wind raptor
!clban 1262705897646456832 inappropriate language
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @grim ether permanently.
primal shadow
lol
Reminds me of a movie I Was just watching, Sherlock and Watson? maybe it was called
Will Ferrel and John C Reilly
Them sending a late night drunken... telegram
whole bear
bisqwit
wind raptor
https://codingchallenges.fyi/challenges/intro
Did you check out this site @heavy zenith
It has some nice portfolio projects
primal shadow
Make a new coin
whole bear
primal shadow
take it to the moon
and be richer than bezos
And then you can work on a rocket startup
to escape Earth
like the billionaires are doing
Is that a "mailing bot" or a "mail bot"
it doesn't mail stuff
it gets mail
so I'm not sure it's a mailing bot
Only 3? Why not 5
Your prime deliveries generally don't come via the mail do they
Just tell the AI to refactor it
"rewrite this like a master coder man"
wind raptor
@shrewd dragon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93WdX7v3DWU
primal shadow
"who knows what he's doing, and doesn't hallucinate, except when his microdoses go macro"
IDK about that rational, "if it's boring you should do it"
watching paint dry is boring as shit
Psh, I just let it sit until soemone else does it
I think he went for the racist free twitter
Depends on the meaning of "complete"
Perfection is the enemy of good enough
I'm a big fan of "If it runs, it ships"
lime relic
same here
primal shadow
Learning how to Learn is a great coursera course
as is the book that goes with it, A Mind for Numbers
Becuase the "why" often matters not
you can always dig deeper
but there's a point where you just gotta move forward, not deeper
Why is that crazy/>
He is here to absolve us of our coding sins.
muted silo
who is this about mate
primal shadow
upper basin
In Russia, python writes you.
muted silo
In Russia, python writes you.
you from russia
upper basin
you from russia
Nope.
muted silo
then this joke doesnt work
vocal basin
He is here to absolve us of our coding sins.
"as kids these days would say, 'messy ahh code'; that's why's he's called messiah"
dry jasper
upper basin
!pypi jax
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
this sounds slightly cursed
https://fory.apache.org/docs/docs/guide/python_serialization#serialize-local-functionslambdas>
primal shadow
then this joke doesnt work
Why not?? You don't need to be russian to make a "In Russia X Y's You"
vocal basin
Soviet Russia
primal shadow
I always wonder about that, people who don't jump because the ydon't wan t to look like a jumper
but if they're jumping, getting raises, and offers...
why not keep doingi t?
vocal basin
Soviet Russia
Python was made before USSR collapsed, so extra qualifier is even justified
primal shadow
Soviet Russia feels like a myth, it's been Putin's Russia far too lon g
Now the effort goes into filling time, not solving the problem
Can't come back too soon
After all
the reward for good quick work?
More work.
But the pay? She stays the same
can't say I Have
vocal basin
1991: initial Python publication, collapse of Soviet Union
2000: Python 2.0 release, dot-com bubble burst
2008: Python 3.0 release, global financial crisis
shrewd dragon
Have to take to give.
vocal basin
what big collapse is going to coincide with Python 4.0
primal shadow
Mars is smaller than earth
Why would we prefer it?
Mars is more an oh shit option, shouldn't be considered the preference
vocal basin
!pep 750
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
^ this
primal shadow
I can't wait for g-strings
calm ginkgo
like a T
vocal basin
!e
print(t"{1 + 2 = }")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Template(strings=('1 + 2 = ', ''), interpolations=(Interpolation(3, '1 + 2', 'r', ''),))
vocal basin
!e
print(t"[{1 + 2 = }]")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Template(strings=('[1 + 2 = ', ']'), interpolations=(Interpolation(3, '1 + 2', 'r', ''),))
Javier
primal shadow
?
vocal basin
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
```ansi...
this is actually somewhat confusing structure
like
why are [ and 1 + 2 = combined
vocal basin
this is actually somewhat confusing structure
ah, nvm, makes sense
vocal basin
stuff {x = } is equivalent to stuff x = {x} at all times, including inside template strings
vocal basin
Is it like sanitizing user Input with templates?
potentially useful for that too, yes
dry jasper
potentially useful for that too, yes
Awesome
vocal basin
but
dry jasper
....
vocal basin
you shouldn't be sanitising inputs, wrong approach
sanitisation is an act of altering inputs so they are safe to store
validation is a better approach
validation, if you need to store as is
escaping, if you need to embed data inside code (not SQL)
query parametrisation, if you do SQL
sanitisation, if you generate HTML but still want to support some tags
sanitisation is like best effort filtering
you shouldn't be sanitising, for example, people's names as inputs
# bad validation
assert "'" not in data
# bad sanitisation
data.replace("'", "")
# bad escaping
data.replace("'", "\\'")
even among these bad options, sanitisation is the worst one
heavy zenith
in case of validation why is this bad
vocal basin
in case of validation why is this bad
the main reason why I call all these bad there is because 1) they're incomplete 2) the context is implied to be SQL, where you MUST use query parameters instead
dry jasper
what about url parameters which are not directly user input but can be messed with?
vocal basin
URL parameters have a standardised escaping mechanism
% stuff
most parsers will just handle them correctly
as for generating URLs, don't use interpolation for anything other than the path
heavy zenith
- Peopleโs names are case sensitive.
- Peopleโs names are case insensitive.
how can these both be true is it because it changes from name to name.
vocal basin
interpolate the path, then give it to the unparser as the path, explicitly
vocal basin
12. Peopleโs names are case sensitive.
13. Peopleโs names are case insensitive.
...
some incorrectly believe 12 is correct, some incorrectly believe 13 is incorrect
it's not "what a single dev incorrectly believes as the same time"
(i.e. both 12 and 13 are not true, even though some might assume there is no third option)
because it changes from name to name
(for that reason, but not only that reason)
it's not only a per-person thing but also per-jurisdiction/per-system thing
passports would often normalise names to some sort of uppercase ASCII form, but, that too, is not always
primal shadow
12. Peopleโs names are case sensitive.
13. Peopleโs names are case insensitive.
...
They can't both be true, but htey are sometimes true
so they're not asbolutely true
heavy zenith
@vocal basin
There exists an algorithm which transforms names and can be reversed losslessly.
do you perchance know what algorithm that is
primal shadow
transforms how?
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515>
There exists an algorithm which transforms names and can ...
you might've missed that part
heavy zenith
yeah
I might just
need better reading comprehension
I was already wondering how such a miraculous thing could exist
vocal basin
reminds me of that quote about [definitely not Dell]:
they took a list of distributed computing fallacies but used those as the checklist instead
โ
network is reliable
โ
latency is 0
vocal basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfh-VCTwMw8
aka "regretrospective"
aka "blame storming"
I don't remember if it was Jimmy or someone who had "five who's" in their talk
(five w's but enterprise)
calm ginkgo
vocal basin
I like what tf. prefix turns the code into:
the fucking tensor spec with dtype of the fucking int32
the fucking tensor spec with dtype of the fucking float32
@upper basin compile-time errors, right?
@midnight agate audio works
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> compile-time errors, right?
Right, you have the SSA-IR, and prior to running it you'd want to handle errors because otherwise it'd be nearly impossible to debug your code once you try to run it and it fails.
vocal basin
I didn't hear the first part of the question
primal shadow
I didn't hear the first part of the question
What makes a senior engineer, what's required
and after I said knowledge, they asked what level of knowledge..
I don't really rank knowledge on... "levels" so I cannot answer the question in a way that makes any sense.
other than like...
upper basin
primal shadow
junior, mid, senior level
Seniors know what they're doing
Juniors need hands held
I do work in a company with arbitrary levels
But the meaning depends entirely on the company
I can but I generally prefer not to in the office
as a rule I don't in the office
I think i heard the question
But I might have answered something that wasn't asked.
vocal basin
I still don't believe anything "above" intern and "below" C_O to make sense as a "level" classification
vocal basin
a decision by whoever hires/promotes, generally
primal shadow
Must I hold their hand?
If so, absolutely not
if not, then we move on to see what they can do
in javascript, what does this result in? [] == []
true false or what?
The ultimate test of a senior, @midnight agate
Better yet, here's the full quiz.
vocal basin
true false or what?
[object 5]
primal shadow
[] == []
[] == ![]
![] == []
![] == ![]```Rapid fire go
T T T T
or F F F F
ro any combnation
Use spoilers
to not spoil it
|| T F T T F T F ||
Even better
amber raptor
in javascript, what does this result in? `[] == []`
primal shadow
The answer key: ||F|| ||T|| ||T|| ||T||
amber raptor
Levels are generally so manager knows what work can be given
vocal basin
the horrors
upper basin
I'm gonna go sleep.
vocal basin
The answer key: ||F|| ||T|| ||T|| ||T||
I don't remember these answers but I remember why they are these way
same for the [] + {} stuffs
crystal fox
primal shadow
Americans will show up for 2 hours on a Saturday
People who say "violence solves nothing" failed every history class they took.
It's quite literally why we have a 2nd amendment. A part of the core of what America is
In the US
withholding labor can cause the government to murder you
because remember
violence solves nothing
which is why the government loves to implement it
against non violent populations
vocal basin
currently open
crude nova
Nice
primal shadow
The VSCode extension is neat too
crude nova
Do you know how I can change the default font?
vocal basin
The VSCode extension is neat too
does VCS-compatible format by default
vocal basin
Do you know how I can change the default font?
per diagram?
crude nova
E.g. when I double-press on the diagramm, select "text" to write a text block. How do I change the default font of that text block?
somber heath
withholding labor can cause the government to murder you
Sure, but not if you do it enough when appropriate before it gets to the point where you have a government that does that. The deeper things get into the woods, the more extreme measures people are driven to.
vocal basin
Do you know how I can change the default font?
select an element that is formatted as you want, click "Set as Default Style"
style includes the font
crude nova
select an element that is formatted as you want, click "Set as Default Style"
I'll try that rn
primal shadow
Though this one mightnot be the one I was looking for
vocal basin
I've just done that on a monospace-fonted element, now this when I double-click
primal shadow
Oh no he didgerididn't
woeful blaze
Aries_project:
-In progress
vocal basin
@wraith crypt mic noise
woeful blaze
How is everyone today?
primal shadow
What does the delivery driver say when he goes to the wrong address?
vocal basin
sanitisation, if you generate HTML but still want to support some tags
found the thing
mild quartz
vocal basin
NUKE IT
NUKE IT
NUKE IT
vocal basin
@rugged root he did
primal shadow
Speaking of appointments, my wife's doc is taking my insurance now, so no more cash patient! and insurance covers the appointments 100%.
A rare insurance win in America
vocal basin
another Steam thing is happening seems like
(including demos)
new phrase learned
By 2008, it was feared that Central Australia's feral camel population had grown to roughly one million animals, and was projected to double every 8 to 10 years
primal shadow
vocal basin
another phrase learned
primal shadow
I don't know any songs named that
vocal basin
another phrase learned
apparently those giant snails are a serious problem
20 cm or more in length
most frequently occurring invasive species of snail
they spread plant and human diseases
^ apparently this damages the brain
The family, which believed that eating raw snails could strengthen the body, contracted the lungworm and led to five fatalities after eating raw snails.
primal shadow
vocal basin
Discord no longer auto-accepts the message requests when replying seems like
"finally, spams gets to stay as spam"
vocal basin
they spread plant and human diseases
they're also pets
bred and sold
some random weird chemical can be extracted from them
idk what it does
acharan sulfate
seems to interact with blood
heparinoid is the category of those chemicals
can guess by name where it was initially extracted from
(hepa-/hepar -- liver)
vocal basin
can guess by name where it was initially extracted from
((dog liver specifically))
@somber heath also bear liver is problematic
vocal basin
especially polar bears
heavy zenith
for eating
vocal basin
do not eat it
heavy zenith
yeah i wasn't planning on it
vocal basin
(it causes vitamin A overdose)
heavy zenith
how did you guys get to that topic
vocal basin
how did you guys get to that topic
Hemlock mentioned snails
we started reading about those snails
some chemical is extracted from them
it has liver in its name
heavy zenith
average python conversation
vocal basin
if a specific weapon wasn't mentioned, I wouldn't've guessed that it was Valorant not CS just by audio
a game I played 0 matches in
heavy zenith
@vocal basin
is there a specific reason why they use little endian in machines and big endian for networking
is it just convention
vocal basin
little endian is somewhat easier/more intuitive to implement
big endian for networking, yes, is a convention, but there likely are some more specific historical reasons for why it is this way
1994
well that's quite recent (RFC 1700)
heavy zenith
kk
vocal basin
IPs are an example where it's structurally big endian too
might be that's why they took that into account
odd fog
can i make an efficiant auth with fast api