voice-chat-text-0

[final canopy]

i was working as a Machine Learning expert b4

[primal shadow]

Do you have aa passion for IT?

[somber heath]

A very suitable tin.

Sensible.

[final canopy]

been building computers since i was like 4

used to do it with my dad

and then sell em

[primal shadow]

That's a good hobby

[final canopy]

so it just kinda became a thing, im better at hardware

[primal shadow]

Hard to replace a hardware expert with AI as well

someone's gotta physically do it

and I don't see Elon's bots taking over too soon...

though...

https://tenor.com/bU39e.gif

[final canopy]

ive worked all over but my main thing is network engineering

and PM work

im new to data analytics

want to learn django for some freelance work

as i have time

[primal shadow]

Last I checked Django had some good docs

[west ore]

hell yeah

[somber heath]

@stark vine 👋

[vocal basin]

speed of light, by definition, is integer m/s

special relativity's notion of speed of light is quite simple

just a property of how speed transitions work

@somber heath speed of light, the constant, is just a geometrical thing, kind of, not necessarily related to light itself

it just happens to be the same, because photons have no mass at rest

just add a timeout

that is the practical and theoretical solution

I wonder if it can do that with good enough probability

if you allow for randomness

# <...> definition of is_infinite

if not is_infinite(input()):
    while True: pass

@somber heath and then you feed that program to itself

@somber heath likely a subset, and an incomplete one

there are many initially predictable subsequences

.wa s factorise 47

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

1 and 47

[vocal basin]

no

30?

I misheard

(I heard 30 squared)

623

whatever that is a square-2 of

25

[shrewd warren]

99^2-2 is not priome

[vocal basin]

oh wait no

I can't count

.wa s factorise 623

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

1, 7, 89, and 623

[vocal basin]

hmm

.wa s 25^2 - 2

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

623

[vocal basin]

"don't worry, there are a lot of insane dumb people too, to balance this"

@somber heath unless he is still alive

reversed the time, left our Earth on the Tunguska meteorite
(there was some conspiracy theory that Tunguska event was caused by him)

perelm__a__n

I sometimes forget how cursed Russian IPA is

@primal sequoia ... and then there are people like Savvateev

[somber heath]

Pjirjilj man.

[vocal basin]

very much party line aligned

$250
I'd rather spend that money on buying more skirts and good food

important
https://docs.stripe.com/api/idempotent_requests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvUdvte1V3s

microcommit microcommit microcommit

[misty bough]

yuyuy you still cant speak

?

[vocal basin]

"idk not quite there yet"

it never is

[sweet lodge]

Ohhh someone is speaking my language

@blazing finch beautiful non-Beattie talk, and it wasn’t even linked by me this time

Is great, trust

[vocal basin]

"want to watch a cursed talk instead?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx7xnYIgK7Y

[sweet lodge]

im good tanks

[vocal basin]

there are dog pictures

[sweet lodge]

[shrewd warren]

mozilla

[somber heath]

@opaque storm 👋

[opaque storm]

Hey

Hey

Hi

Sry mistakenly joined

[opaque storm]

Sry

[somber heath]

Hoya.

Hello.

It's night and the situation is such that if I spoke I would disturb others.

At least if I wasn't quiet about it.

[dry jasper]

ahh got you

[candid spire]

Hi

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[candid spire]

Failed

To verify

I can't verify as I'm new to python discord

[somber heath]

I do enjoy eating. At least when I'm hungry. Also it depends what.

Sometimes it can depend on my mood.

I might feel less like one thing vs another.

Lure, are we to adhere to your About Me?

@dark moss 👋

It was very windy, today, for a time.

I was concerned some trees might come down.

[candid spire]

Nope.
About me is for the DM.

[somber heath]

Rightio.

I just have mine off to non-friends.

Doc.

[candid spire]

Hmm

Tbh, I prefer not to have DM with both friends and non friends

Idk, but I like normal voice calls or simple discussion in mutual server instead

[somber heath]

Mm. This server was a pandemic join for me.

It's kept me connected to people outside my household since.

[candid spire]

Yeah, the pandemic really changed a lot of people made many more introverted or comfortable staying online.

[somber heath]

It's been pleasant to talk with people and make friends that are on a similar wavelength.

I wish I could just be here forever.

[candid spire]

Seems like things turned out in your favor after all.

[candid spire]

Yeah, I get that. Some places just feel like home.

[somber heath]

Other places have, too.

Now they do not.

[candid spire]

Some things are beyond our control.

[somber heath]

@sly anchor 👋

@twilit mortar 👋

[candid spire]

It was a pleasure speaking with you. I must take my leave now.

Have a nice day @somber heath

[somber heath]

@quick tide 👋

[quick tide]

yo i cant unmute myself

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@deep pulsar 👋

[somber heath]

Super.

Not at present, though I remain disappointed.

We needn't discuss it further.

As you prefer.

It is a yeast-based spread often applied to things like toast. It is fairly strong in flavour, kind of salty without being salty. It's not for everyone and the trick is to have it in small amounts.

People from the U.S. just slather it on things and wonder why they are having a bad day.

It's very much worth a try. Toast, bit of butter, bit of vegemite. It can be very yum.

I don't often have it.

I don't really care a lot for it.

But I sometimes get a hankering.

My understanding is it originated as a byproduct of beer brewing.

@hexed ridge 👋

Mm. It's not a nice feeling, is it?

Mmmmhm.

Mhm.

You might want to watch what you say.

https://youtu.be/ObOqq1knVxs?si=6nD1vRJv7B5TVGTS

You are sane.

For one, you're printing each iteration in the first. The sum is just the expression on its own.

I don't think my sanity is reliable at the moment such to be able to gauge yours.

[upper basin]

I was correct, but somehow 2 becomes 4 when the lib does the same thing.

It's supposed to show 2, and it does, but somehow when the lib calls the exact fucking method it becomes 4...

[somber heath]

@upper basin Background audio

Super, what was the question?

Cipher?

Oh.

[somber heath]

@shrewd dragon 👋

[shrewd dragon]

Yo

[somber heath]

@turbid trellis @elfin wind 👋

https://tenor.com/view/tired-nap-french-cartoon-gif-11954848

@stray pewter

@ocean flame 👋

[shrewd dragon]

Type hinting is also really good when you can't compile the code before hand aka Python, Javascript etc.

[somber heath]

Python is starting to be natively JITted, I believe. I saw something about that.

!pep 744

[wise cargo]

**PEP 744 - JIT Compilation**

Status

Draft

Python Version

3.13

Created

11-Apr-2024

Type

Informational

[somber heath]

@fading quiver 👋

[fading quiver]

hello

[upper basin]

That's interesting.

Like by default?

Replace AOT?

[shrewd dragon]

@midnight agate Traffic could play a big part not having the right code logic of even system architecture to handle huge traffic.

Traffic is usually referred to the amount of people on a website in a certain amount of time

and I havent got perms to talk yet sadly lol

Yeah and interactions with a site through the internet

[somber heath]

@worn comet 👋

[humble pond]

@upper basin arent you're the quantum guy?

[shrewd dragon]

Quantum 🔥

No not the meatbags

😭

[humble pond]

@upper basin now i understood the entanglement you said earllier 🍞 is it cause of the entanglement that all the impossible states collapse right away without touching them?

[bleak copper]

To run tests in parallel using pytest, you need to install the pytest-xdist plugin with the command pip install pytest-xdist. Then, you can execute your tests in parallel by using the command pytest -n <number_of_workers>, where <number_of_workers> specifies how many tests to run simultaneously.

[humble pond]

@calm swallow i used to work in "AI" industry and the data was probally being buy and sold on the data market as fish and pie

[wind raptor]

I love where I came into this conversation 🤣

[humble pond]

i super cooked fr, im 23 💀

[wind raptor]

Hey @peak depot 👋

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-karu-cute-frog-karu-love-gif-9073542059226148631

[humble pond]

@upper basin https://x.com/GoogleResearch/status/1981016038344110519

Google Research (@GoogleResearch)

Today we announce a significant step in quantum computing by introducing Quantum Echoes, a new quantum computational algorithm measuring out-of-time-order correlators. This verifiable quantum advantage paves the way for solving real-world problems. More: https://t.co/xxK6zjG1Mm

X · Oct 22, 2025, 3:13 PM

[peak depot]

@cold zealotmute yourself plz

we hear everything

[vocal basin]

TF

• terraform
• tensorflow
• the fuck

[primal shadow]

Terraria is Fun

[calm ginkgo]

cookiecutter is so ugly

[vocal basin]

@peak depot the auto project setup thingy?

[calm ginkgo]

i always write my own code

[peak depot]

yaaas queen

[calm ginkgo]

structuring it my own way is better because i can be opinionated

[vocal basin]

write your own cookiecutter

[calm ginkgo]

nah..i always change my opinion about what i like

[vocal basin]

flexibly inflexible opinions

[calm ginkgo]

exactly not exactly 🙂

[vocal basin]

random information: I first learned about cookiecutter from LP

I assume @upper basin knows who that is, because outside voices

SQLite is great

[upper basin]

That's a good cookie right there.

[upper basin]

Gonna go eat some cookies and then come back to work.

[primal shadow]

Capsaicin triggers a specific receptor

Limit the scope

[obsidian pivot]

Is the MIMO app good to start my python journey?

[vocal basin]

maths in maths out

isn't that all apps at some level

[obsidian pivot]

LOL True

[primal shadow]

How do you...

speak to an API?

[vocal basin]

there do exist API-based games

[primal shadow]

That's the present

which is making us realize what a bad idea it is

in the future we'll rely less on the computer to give us wrong info9rmation

and go bac kto the people to get it

[vocal basin]

@rugged root what was it named

space traders?

[primal shadow]

Just do it

stop thinking

https://tenor.com/ta7T.gif

[vocal basin]

quadruple boot

[primal shadow]

Good, install Linux

[vocal basin]

I can't play Forza Horizon 5 on Windows

[primal shadow]

if a game won't run on it, that game sucks anyways

[obsidian pivot]

My first project was an automation Bot with a half working chat interface

[primal shadow]

Yea

[vocal basin]

this stops all the gaming compatibility considerations for me

[primal shadow]

Minecraft runs fien

Just the trash F2P or AAAA $100 titles that won't run

"AAAA"

HAhahahaha

[vocal basin]

Concord

[primal shadow]

How loud you scream at yourself for buying such trash

The more A's the more pain

and regret

[vocal basin]

sunk cost fallacy

[primal shadow]

I've all but given up on the major publishers/studios

indy for life

Just play Factorio

call it a day

and enjoy the better Linux experience

non blocking saves

oooh

[calm swallow]

https://www.protondb.com/

[vocal basin]

this is, like, total insanity

[primal shadow]

Steam is amazing for Linux

The work they've done

They had a desktop environment that looks like Windows

[vocal basin]

I play FH5, a Microsoft game, on openSUSE

@peak depot Mint is reasonable default

[primal shadow]

I think Mint

yea

Ever since the deck, Steam has really gone hard on Linux

[vocal basin]

for me Microsoft game integration thing works more stably on Linux

[obsidian pivot]

Isn't there a way to run 2 Sytems on one PC and decide on what you want to boot on

[vocal basin]

there are "only" two apps I use:

• browser
• vscode
  Linux or Windows doesn't make much difference there

[primal shadow]

dual boot

great for toe dipping

until you haven't visited the windows side in a year

and the automatic updates strike...

[vocal basin]

preferably from different drives

[primal shadow]

And it's on your HDD...

lol

[vocal basin]

did Microsoft actually stop updates to Win10?

[heavy zenith]

I think so

[vocal basin]

I presume yes but Microsoft thinks Russia is in EU

[peak depot]

not if you pay

[winter trellis]

guys y can't i talk

[peak depot]

also EU made it so that they have to update it

[vocal basin]

"that's the neat part: I don't"

[winter trellis]

guys i'm havin some error someone help pwease

[wise cargo]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[vocal basin]

error log?

[winter trellis]

wait

NameError: name 'avgtime' is not defined

[vocal basin]

which line number

[winter trellis]

line - 52

[vocal basin]

I'll read in ~10 minutes

[winter trellis]

pwease do it asap

[obsidian pivot]

I cant talk so I cant do amything wrong👍

[winter trellis]

okay

btw y can't i talk tho?

[vocal basin]

@peak depot I remember there was some picture but not sure if that one

[vocal basin]

missing _

(if you haven't figured out yet)

[winter trellis]

i alr got it lol

but thx

[vocal basin]

(was on a phone, doesn't have file preview)

[winter trellis]

oh ok but thx for ur effort

i appriciate it

[obsidian pivot]

What do americans think about the german IT industry in terms of being future- proof

[vocal basin]

@peak depot how to train abs: have extreme cough

the constant feeling of your bones nearly breaking, my favourite

[obsidian pivot]

Just Train

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/scratchfoundation

[echo bison]

i like to hanglle my logs.

[cold oasis]

hi 👋

[vocal basin]

@peak depot I do not think therefore I do not am

[cold oasis]

anyone JS dev here 😅

are you guys building games wow 🤩

[calm swallow]

Yeah 🙂 and I was just kidding about JS 😛

[cold oasis]

I love JS

[calm swallow]

I tried to love JS but JS doesn't love me 🙁

[cold oasis]

JS is my bread and butter

now my company asking me to learn Java 😅

[calm swallow]

oh no.

[cold oasis]

lol

[vocal basin]

how can you ever hate Lisp

joke repeated 1000 times becomes even funnier

JS is Lisp

[cold oasis]

are you guys working or university?

[vocal basin]

JS is a Scheme reskinned to look like Java

@heavy zenith from 1950s

first implementation in 1960s

[cold oasis]

lol

what do u guys think about the AWS outage?

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

eh, 50 years ago we had Soviet Union and it was quite surreal even by modern war Russia standards

[obsidian pivot]

how its called?

[vocal basin]

I didn't notice it other than its effects on Docker Hub

[cold oasis]

do you guys prefer writing unit tests or just code and publish?

[vocal basin]

!charinfo A@

[wise cargo]

Character Info

\u0041 : LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A - A
\u0040 : COMMERCIAL AT - @

Full Raw Text

\u0041\u0040

[vocal basin]

hmm

[heavy zenith]

I don't enjoy writing tests but I still do it usually at least

[primal shadow]

How'd that go for disney?

And that dead woman

[cold oasis]

yeah with JS i started using Typescript atleast to get rid of runtime value errors.

[primal shadow]

Disney+ arbitration clause protected them from a lawsuit at a restaurant?

They backed down on that one

The government LOVES the children

the current government LOVES them a bit too much

Arbitration clauses are damn powerful

[vocal basin]

build a cult
build a cult
build a cult

[cold oasis]

hope i can also talk soon

why dev servers are dead usually?

[calm ginkgo]

not this server

[cold oasis]

i hope 🤞

[vocal basin]

people gathering based on topic not activities happening

[cold oasis]

hmm

[cold oasis]

india right?

[iron geyser]

@echo bison 😂

[lone current]

hi

[calm ginkgo]

yea?

[iron geyser]

Yo ^^

[lone current]

i js started learning to code i need tips

[cold oasis]

mee too

[calm ginkgo]

ok

[cold oasis]

hi make projects based on what u learn

[lone current]

im mainly gui making with tkinter

[cold oasis]

need not be big projects

[cold oasis]

whats that

got it

[lone current]

its the built in gui

it comes with python but im using pycharm

[cold oasis]

ok

ehy u decided to do it is it ur work related or randomly u picked

[lone current]

my work mainly

well

im lying

for fun tbh

its just a hobby i wanna get into for the foreseeable future

[cold oasis]

ok lol

[lone current]

yea

ive made this idk why just for the fun of it

just random words

each button has interactable menu's the xbox/ubisoft take you to explorer to grab a .txt file

[vocal basin]

make it have six buttons

[lone current]

why

[vocal basin]

rainbowy

so the user gets be__siege__d by colour

[heavy zenith]

every button one color or every button has a rainbow pattern

[vocal basin]

better puns tomorrow

[lone current]

do you have any names in mind for them

[vocal basin]

(I said it for no other reason than to have those message contain the name of the game)

[lone current]

ohh

so basically

2 more buttons each a different color

oik

[umbral mauve]

hello

forget to change the status lol

how u guys doing

in ssa, a variable cant be used twice

@unique wyvern

basically

[kind sparrow]

waht yall like coding

i mean projecxts

[primal shadow]

I just do it for the money 🙁

[stark vine]

Ninja

[wise loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KxNJX0c2ZU

[amber raptor]

Andrej Karpathy (born 23 October 1986[3]) is a Slovak-Canadian computer scientist who served as the director of artificial intelligence and Autopilot Vision at Tesla. He co-founded and formerly worked at OpenAI,[4][5][6] where he specialized in deep learning and computer vision.[7][8][2][9]

[somber heath]

.xkcd 84

[viscid lagoon]

XKCD comic #84

She's pretty sharp when provoked.

2006/4/3 - #84, 'National Language'

[modest shale]

yo @somber heath

[somber heath]

@fossil seal 👋

[somber heath]

Yo.

[tacit crane]

mic?

[somber heath]

It's still there.

I'm electing to not make use of it for the time being.

I don't want to disturb others that are within earshot when it is night.

Next room.

Putrescence is one of the worst smells.

Heeey.

Winding down and watching some clips from Sandman.

That's still good.

Though my nose is a bit sensitive from wearing the mask.

The ears can get sensitive, too.

[umbral mauve]

hello

@stray pewter

welcome

[candid spire]

Hello

Hi

[calm ginkgo]

.xkcd 451

[viscid lagoon]

XKCD comic #451

If you think this is too hard on literary criticism, read the Wikipedia article on deconstruction.

2008/7/18 - #451, 'Impostor'

[primal shadow]

I think classes are still part of beginnre learning IMO

As they are a core foundational part of the language

[wind raptor]

I agree, it's just at the end of beginner

[primal shadow]

People are in a race to get to "expert" that they worry less about the learning and more about "where am I?"

The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know

Classes are just part of hte foundation

I do agree, they are an end part

since they require so many pieces to understand

boolenas

boolenas, lol

well

Drywallers exist

they are not framers

[candid spire]

Hi

[primal shadow]

Most roofers don't lay foundations

https://tenor.com/z5aJ.gif

[stray pewter]

😎

[candid spire]

Hey

What are your thoughts on this :
I categorise most discord users in three segments :-

1. Unemployed / Student
2. Socially Isolated
3. Gamer / Avenue

In all of the above, most of the users use this app as escape from reality.

[primal shadow]

strange

I'm at work right now

Where does that put me in your list?

"getting paid to pass the time"

[candid spire]

Maybe 2 or 3

[primal shadow]

a gamer?

or a...

path of pavement?

And there's others in the room with me

I work with a team

so not 2

and I'm not gaming

so an Avenue?

What does the cofounder do

What are his responsibilities, other than pushing his friend's advertising service?

[candid spire]

How often do you use discord?

Once a week?

Twice a week?

Or almost everyday?

[wind raptor]

!cpban 1238050794117267479

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @burnt urchin until <t:1761577088:f> (4 days).

[wind raptor]

!cpban 530375287188357130

[wise cargo]

:ok_hand: applied ban to @brave horizon until <t:1761577104:f> (4 days).

[primal shadow]

Majority?

Over 50%?

You have proof?

What?

Here I thought it was them undersea cables

[candid spire]

Who?

[primal shadow]

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/internet-dependent-tech-giants-amazon-experts-weigh/story?id=126719517

@upbeat oasis Why do you lie?

Just for the joy of saying things that are untrue or?

[candid spire]

Aws is used in China?

If not, the answer is no

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/uk1R2qhdcQs.gif

[wind raptor]

!cpban 317420861143515138

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @storm trout until <t:1761577271:f> (4 days).

[primal shadow]

Depends on your download speed

I imagine

like entirely

at least they said

[amber raptor]

Yes but it’s operated 100% independently from rest of AWS

[primal shadow]

which is technically correct

[candid spire]

Ig, the biggest cloud provider is alibaba cloud in China

[amber raptor]

It is. AWS CN is used by international companies entering Chinese market. Most native CN companies use Alibaba.

[candid spire]

Hmm, interesting 🤔

[primal shadow]

botnet is badnet

[umbral mauve]

hello!

[amber raptor]

Azure and GCP work same way.

[primal shadow]

My point was mostly AWS does not run > 50% of the internet

[amber raptor]

Yes and No

[candid spire]

Definitely

Not

[primal shadow]

Maybe 50% or more of the sites you frequent. But you are not the world.

[candid spire]

As per google it is 37% at best

[primal shadow]

All numbers I find has AWS in the 30's

not the 50+

[amber raptor]

No, because modern web development is outsourced mess so while primary site may not be on AWS, their dependencies might be.

[scarlet halo]

i have the itch to make a game but no idea on the specifics, no idea on the mechanics, no idea on the style, no idea on the number of dimensions

[candid spire]

50% is absurd claim

[primal shadow]

So if it carries a single file the site runs on AWS you say?

[amber raptor]

Like my company was impacted because dependency was on AWS

[primal shadow]

So the total pie is over 100%?

sure, if the pie is over 100%, AWS can have over 50%

One hell of a pie chart, it goes above 100%

Do we have several pies on the table?

to represent the one pie?

[amber raptor]

It goes into, what does that mean “runs”

[primal shadow]

hostin a CDN is not running the internet

[amber raptor]

Cloudflare is much higher

[calm ginkgo]

https://pile.eleuther.ai/

[primal shadow]

So you're saying Cloudfare + AWS > 100% of the internet

got it

since AWS is over 50%

and cloudfare > AWS

[amber raptor]

Umm

[primal shadow]

They run over 100% of the internet

TIL

[devout ledge]

hi guys

they locked me in a room

[amber raptor]

So you enjoy being deliberately dumb?

[candid spire]

Hi chicken

[primal shadow]

That's not good

[primal shadow]

I enjoy calling out absurdities

Do you enjoy insulting people?

🙂

[amber raptor]

Yes

[devout ledge]

yup

[primal shadow]

You should check out #rules

[candid spire]

If I could get 1$ each for a response, I would have cared more to respond.
But I'm heading out tc

[devout ledge]

wouldnt be surprised if that was sent with a webhook in python

[primal shadow]

I would

[devout ledge]

its obv a webhook

and its a python server so prob sent through a script

[primal shadow]

Since I use the desktop client, which I believe is made with Electron

[wind raptor]

What are you even on about

[devout ledge]

do u not know what a webhook is

[wind raptor]

Accusing someone of self botting is quite the leap

[devout ledge]

???

[primal shadow]

I'm not a fan of wild accusations

especially directed at me

[wind raptor]

Yes

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/0wdy.gif

https://tenor.com/8AOY.gif

Are we still blamin Obama?

I stubbed my toe this morning, obviously his fault.

[devout ledge]

i said in #rules the message was sent by a webhook and a script was used to send that message through a webhook

[primal shadow]

Do we need AI to add watermarks?

I thoguth that was solved ages ago

without AI

[devout ledge]

a webhook is a URL that you can use to send requests to, then it posts a message

[wind raptor]

Oh, you phrased it in a way that made it sound like @primal shadow posted his message using a webhook

[devout ledge]

oh

ok

[wind raptor]

Misunderstanding

[devout ledge]

its alr

[wind raptor]

You are correct that the rules are posted using a webhook so that when we update them, it gets reposted automatically.

[amber raptor]

Another mute!

[primal shadow]

What?

[devout ledge]

i hate C

C#/C++ are ok but i hate c

nice @craggy vale

[vocal basin]

> "C++ is ok"
> std::vector<bool>

[primal shadow]

Microsoft Java 🤢

[devout ledge]

did u just say the m word

[primal shadow]

You brought it up

called it ok

[devout ledge]

but ms doesnt own java

[primal shadow]

Which is why they made microsoft java

AKA C++++

AKA C#

[scarlet halo]

Microsoft Java = C#. because C# and Java are pretty similar

[primal shadow]

Because they are so unoriginal

[devout ledge]

yeah kinda

[primal shadow]

https://medium.com/@wiscarlens/the-tale-of-java-and-c-why-do-they-look-so-similar-7a84e8d7d401

Nah, like 100%

they stopped using Java after a lawsuit

then built C#

[devout ledge]

i think C# is pretty good

[primal shadow]

so they could keep using Java without using Java

We're all entitled to our opinions

🙂

[devout ledge]

Minecraft was built in Java

[devout ledge]

yup

[primal shadow]

Not sure how that's relevant

[hexed trout]

lol the AI generated article image

[primal shadow]

Other than Microsoft bought Mojang at some poit

[devout ledge]

Yea

[primal shadow]

but I'm pretty sure it was written in Java BEFORE the acquisition

then they went and rebuilt it with the bedrock edition

[vocal basin]

average Medium post

[devout ledge]

yea

[peak depot]

I was bored so I made a cake

[amber raptor]

And then Microsoft started publishing their own Java builds

[devout ledge]

nice cake

[primal shadow]

Mmmm, what's inside?

Isi t/

I have premium, thy let me

[devout ledge]

@scarlet halo you'd have to use the sketchy ".mp4 youtube downloader free" website

[primal shadow]

my youtube app has over a gig of downloaded

[vocal basin]

(std::vector<bool> is not std::vector, and now all generic code has to deal with this insanity)

[hexed trout]

looks really good!

[primal shadow]

That escalated quickly

[scarlet halo]

yeah...

[vocal basin]

[devout ledge]

I HATE THE s/ COMMAND WHEN MY MSG HAS A USER MENTION IN IT

[primal shadow]

1.53GB of user data in my youtubemusic app

all sorts of saved stuff

and 512mb in the cache

[devout ledge]

Cake

[primal shadow]

Yea, it summons demons

[wise loom]

is every successful software company closing the niche it's in, such that nobody else can do what they do?
listening to the examples that were mentioned, it looks like this is the case.
(Spotify for example)

[devout ledge]

Labubus suck

[primal shadow]

and by demons we mean Trump and Satan

[devout ledge]

Like wtf is the point of them

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/cBlIEBVi9UE.gif

[hexed trout]

“I want to make something like Labubus” is so funny as a goal

[primal shadow]

Nah, blind bag trash

[devout ledge]

South park made a labubu episode?

[primal shadow]

They did

[amber raptor]

That’s easiest way to make most profits

[devout ledge]

Thats crazy

[devout ledge]

Yo whats that cursor doing

Im playing GD rn

[scarlet halo]

GD in 2025 💔 🥀

[hexed trout]

hahaha Milien, my family is super messy so our kitchen looks like that all the time

see ya Chris

[peak depot]

my kitchen is not messy

Cat started hugging the mic

[primal shadow]

IDK, I hit /gif and found the south park labubu that looks most appropriate for hte server

[devout ledge]

ok

i think they were streaming it a bad way

[primal shadow]

IDK, there's a nice bit of competition in the streaming business, teh issue is it's a bunch of goliaths

[devout ledge]

idk if i can mention it here so i wont

[primal shadow]

Good luck finding a niche that a megacorp hasn't jumpedi nto

Soon as you get comfortable, amazon will diapers.com your ass

Do it

https://tenor.com/mKIkywpFoCX.gif

[devout ledge]

bye guysss

[primal shadow]

Your Handy Dandy N++

[hexed trout]

see you Chicken

[scarlet halo]

https://github.com/spelis/nvim

[devout ledge]

nice github

bye

[scarlet halo]

https://www.spyder-ide.org/

[hexed trout]

sounds super interesting Super_baguette but yeah unfortunately not allowed

[hexed trout]

hm I wonder if that’s neovim

[hexed trout]

ooooo that’s a great looking cross section (I think that’s what that’s called?)

[peak depot]

cake

[scarlet halo]

the cake is a lie

[hexed trout]

that always works too I suppose hahahaha

[peak depot]

caramel and cream

I wanted something simple and sweet

[scarlet halo]

https://github.com/ibhagwan/fzf-lua

[hexed trout]

frosting looks really good too, love it!

[hexed trout]

looks like a super mutant ninja pea or something lol

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/kaj-bastu-sauna-bara-bada-bastu-gif-2733392532696936313

[scarlet halo]

NO

[peak depot]

yes

[scarlet halo]

🖕

[peak depot]

❤️

[dry jasper]

this is the non terminal imgage

[hexed trout]

ahhhh, that’s cute

[dry jasper]

little peas

[scarlet halo]

.

[dry jasper]

@scarlet halo @echo bison

[hexed trout]

it’s kinda crazy how many people I see actually straight up switching to Archlinux now that windows 10 isn’t supported

[scarlet halo]

https://github.com/Spelis/nvim/blob/00e1005c05516ff84f18c159d2e4a8b824edf968/init.lua#L36 @echo bison

[wise cargo]

init.lua line 36

vim.opt.relativenumber = true```

[scarlet halo]

remove that line in the config

[abstract dawn]

yo folks

[scarlet halo]

:e $MYVIMRC

[hexed trout]

hello Subham!

[abstract dawn]

idk why i am muted

[scarlet halo]

:e ~/Appdata/Local/nvim/init.lua

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[hexed trout]

!Voice

beat me to it

[abstract dawn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/1odud9t/can_i_call_a_purepython_library_from_native_c/

anyone can review it?

[hexed trout]

you can participate in conversations in other parts of the server too, it’s mostly just a spam filter

[scarlet halo]

Python code needs a Python interpreter, and the interpreter's gotta run somewhere.

[abstract dawn]

so thats mean no any other approach exists?

[dry jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/my-boy-massacred-godfather-marlan-brando-look-gif-13993325

[abstract dawn]

lol

[scarlet halo]

Cython might be an option, although i've never used it.

[abstract dawn]

but it also need to embed to a cpp?

[scarlet halo]

{ "basedpyright", "jdtls", "rust_analyzer", "emmylua_ls", "clangd", "html", "ts_ls" }

npm i -g pyright

[candid spire]

I need help

[hexed trout]

hi lure! welcome to the chat

[candid spire]

I'm not able to do abs and push-ups at all

[hexed trout]

what are you looking for help with? you’re welcome to-

oh

that’s a unique problem hahahaha

[candid spire]

After leg workout and stretching

Abs and push-ups, not able to do abs workout

[hexed trout]

are you able to do inclined pushups by leaning on something to only put a portion of your weight into the exercise?

[candid spire]

Ig, I can but I think I'm completely exhausted

And I only had food once

So maybe this could be another reason

Lack of nutrition

[hexed trout]

ahhh so it’s more of a general today-problem thing

[hexed trout]

how long ago was that?

[candid spire]

It is almost the end of the day.
And all I had is dinner

That's it

The previous day it was same

Just dinner

[hexed trout]

oh, yes that absolutely sounds like it would lower your metabolism, or that your calorie intake could be too low since it’s hard to fit that many into a single meal

your body needs enough calories and carbohydrates to do good work!

[candid spire]

At the moment, I don't have money to have a meal twice a day

For the time being this will be my diet

[hexed trout]

ahh, I’m so sorry to hear that :( everyone deserves good food!

[candid spire]

Nah don't be sorry!

It is me problem

[hexed trout]

exercise in that context can still be helpful for certain goals but in general that sounds like your nutrition would be reducing your ability to gain anything from it long term

[hexed trout]

hahaha, well I still have empathy and I hope you can get some more food so you can get mad muscles!

[candid spire]

Exercise is because I want my body to feel good

NVM

@hexed trout Could you suggest some videos on Yoga?

I guess I should do yoga if not abs or push-up

[hexed trout]

hmmm, I don’t have any great yoga videos sorry! but if you want to move your body in a healthy way despite the calorie deficit, then light stretching like yoga could work

[candid spire]

I'll try Yoga

Breath, Digestion and Stretching Yoga

[hexed trout]

be gentle with yourself! don’t force yourself to do any positions that might be uncomfortable, but otherwise I hope you enjoy it!

[candid spire]

I wish I could have 6 Figures income source in Swiss Franc to finance my lifestyle

[hexed trout]

hahahaha

me too friend

[candid spire]

Haha

U r from Switzerland?

[hexed trout]

nope, United States here

[candid spire]

Glad 🙂

[echo bison]

import discord # pip install discord
from discord.ext import commands

intents=discord.Intents.default()


bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix = '!', intents=intents)



token = input('Token: ')


@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    await bot.change_presence(status=discord.Status.invisible)
    print(f'Logged in as {bot.user.name}, in {len(bot.guilds)} servers.')
    await bot.close()

@bot.command()
async def ping(ctx):
    await ctx.send('Pong!')

bot.run(token=token)

me: !ping

bot: Pong!

[woeful blaze]

dose anyone have pets

[echo bison]

I have a cat and 2 kitties

and a chicken

[woeful blaze]

cute

[primal shadow]

Plank.

[elfin lynx]

Yo

[elfin lynx]

Woah

[haughty pier]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer @upbeat oasis

@molten pewter don't give us the silent treatment

🙁

[brave quartz]

hello guys

do you know why I can't speek in the voice channel?

@ebon mist yes

need verification tho

100 wow

it's been 2 weeks i think

ok i see

i am gonna try to print stuff in the other room

sure thanks

checking if there is people interested in competitive programming or data science

i came from quant finance / some computer science.. background

may i ask, what do you know about quants?

okay

how about u? what is ur background/

[ebon mist]

https://github.com/pl23/rpg

[brave quartz]

i will check

computer is the man behind the screen

x)

what is that:

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have an active voice infraction.
You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks.

when did I have voice infraction?

@rapid crown can you help please

<@&831776746206265384> I have a voice limitation and really not understanding why? can you help

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have an active voice infraction.
You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks.

did someone ban without a reason o.O

it's been more than 10min

yes it is

consecutive

okay i will wait thanks

okay i am listning x)

share the screen to see with u

do u have a paper that ur working on?

tablet x) hahaha

I may know why I have the issue of voice, i need to be :

Active for at least nine different ten-minute blocks (equivalent to consistent conversation for 1 hour 30 minutes)

[stark vine]

Wnogus

[primal shadow]

I would recommend sending a message to modmail, not tagging it.

[vocal basin]

these ones seem to work properly

unlike some other European voice server (forgot which)

Rotterdam, I think

not a Cos

vkorʃtɨʃ would probably the way I'd pronounce that

oh wait I already sent that before

[primal shadow]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[vocal basin]

a spider almost stepped onto me

(don't worry, the spider is safe~~, for now~~)

visual basic
our condolences

[primal shadow]

for real

that sounds like a ripoff

A professor who can't get with the times

[vocal basin]

to be fair, probably still more useful than Pascal

[primal shadow]

Or wait, is that still relevant with M$FT?

[vocal basin]

I don't actually know how close VB and VBA are

[primal shadow]

Last stable came out 19 months ago

[vocal basin]

but I'd expect VB+VBA to have a way higher demand than Pascal+Delphi

VBA still happens a lot within Office

[primal shadow]

Either way, if you're gonna teach some old shit, just teach em C

[somber heath]

@queen obsidian 👋

[vocal basin]

ALGOL68

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/pF1NqBqFUuq.gif

[vocal basin]

or you can do a funny move:
teach ALGOL58 for two years, then switch to ALGOL60

[queen obsidian]

@whole bear

Question?

[vocal basin]

so people can feel the real timeline of what it is to have no I/O support for two damn years

[queen obsidian]

Question?

[somber heath]

Just saying hi.

[queen obsidian]

No I have one.

Lets say hypotechialy speaking, If there is a password on a site is it possible to get the password from the inspect area?

[vocal basin]

yes, but why

are you having something fill it in?

like a password manager

[queen obsidian]

How do I go about that?

[vocal basin]

if you want to get the password from your password manager, go to your password manager directly

[queen obsidian]

lol

[primal shadow]

But you agree to follow them

[vocal basin]

if you for some reason use Chrome's password fill-in, you can get your same passwords from https://passwords.google.com/

[primal shadow]

#rules they're good

you should read em

[queen obsidian]

Bro Is there a vc where I can talk

join Vc1

[primal shadow]

I know there's more than 6, 7 of em, but you should read em all

[vocal basin]

I have no idea what else you'd want to extract the password from input for

[queen obsidian]

Join VC1 rq

[somber heath]

It doesn't work that way.

[primal shadow]

why would 2 muted need to be in a private voice chat

lol

[queen obsidian]

Bruh I though it was letting me speak lol

[primal shadow]

Ah

nah

[vocal basin]

or at least it's the only possible case which I actually encountered

[queen obsidian]

thats not what I mean

@primal shadow

yo

yk what to do

check

fine ill read

it

👵

brb im crashing out

anyone there?

[vocal basin]

allegedly

[queen obsidian]

how do I get satrted Learning python

[vocal basin]

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html

[queen obsidian]

so far I have been watching Youtube videos and readding reddit

[vocal basin]

reading reddit is somewhat suboptimal

I'm so sleep deprived I mix up words which aren't similar

[somber heath]

@deft vigil 👋

[vocal basin]

writing code is so much simpler than plain text

[deft vigil]

hi i don't have voice priviledge

[primal shadow]

hi

[queen obsidian]

I don't understand any of this ngl

[primal shadow]

https://python.swaroopch.com/

try that one

[somber heath]

@errant turtle 👋

[primal shadow]

🌊

[errant turtle]

Hello

[vocal basin]

you'll get second, third and fourth opinion on that

[queen obsidian]

Im in the inspect tab and I found my network request for something and now I am in the response tab where do I go from there to find something hidden

[vocal basin]

the problem is that it sometimes misexplains

when it's actually something confusing, it will hallucinate a false explanation

@somber heath they're more useful set operations in common apps, compared to actual bitwise stuff

have you seen TLA+'s operators?

A \union B like in TeX

or A \cup B

A /\ B this is and
A \/ B this is or

(a or b) and (c or d)

/\ \/ a
   \/ b
/\ \/ c
   \/ d

pseudo

[somber heath]

@stray edge 👋

[vocal basin]

pseudoformal pseudospecification

pseudocode to pseudocode pipeline

don't ever look at the code it outputs, that's the whole point

@somber heath I think there is a catastrophic mispriority issue there instead

people want features over quality so much that they don't even ask AI for quality

at least force AI to write tooling and tests for that tooling

the more difficult question: what is it other than a programming language

many things and non-things

the directory stopped fitting in the UI

aaaaa

monorepos 🚀

@somber heath Emutopia Secret Service

spying on Kiwilanders

[vocal basin]

Espionageous, Mysterious, Undercover

`U' makes it so difficult to come up with an backronym there

@somber heath Type C -- now instead of having to guess which side to put in, you have to guess the cable type

educational server

"or could also mean someone pronouncing `can't' a bit too harshly"

@somber heath yes

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/the-kings-speech-fuck-fml-ftfo-stress-gif-11783720

[vocal basin]

a bit too fantastic, for the other definition thereof

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-next-generation-captain-picard-aaron-satie-judge-satie-star-trek-the-next-generation-star-trek-the-next-generation-captain-jean-luc-picard-gif-1057566336015181928

TNG - Drumhead

[vocal basin]

@somber heath nowadays there is TPM

@somber heath Linux devs: encrypt their swap partition because that's an obvious requirement
Windows:

[somber heath]

@warped tusk 👋

[warped tusk]

how are you

[vocal basin]

I just mean, like, the attitude difference

as in Windows and HP storing secret data on disk

HP logged all key presses to a file

(HP driver)

reacting to keyboard shortcuts

iirc

[vocal basin]

(laptop thing, not printer thing)

The program monitors all keystrokes made by the user to capture and react to functions such as microphone mute/unmute keys/hotkeys

capabilities

distrobox uses containers for apps

but

it also mounts, like, everything into those containers

all ~ /mnt /media, I'd expect

it's not for security

what if the users are too unfriendly towards security

they'll focus on attacking individual apps

FreeBSD has something of that sort iirc

they prioritise security above all else

Jail/Zone gets created, which initially can't do anything

then you grant permissions to it

illumos Zones were capable of running Linux apps at some point

"so if you want safe Linux, use illumos"

(it's not a VM, it's a container, a proper one)

@somber heath you've seen that testimony Louis re-posted, right?
(the one which got cut off, but still made the point)

or whatever the thing in court hearings is called

[vocal basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB5sFq5ca8g

[somber heath]

@edgy widget 👋

[soft axle]

Im muted till I get back so its not too noisy @somber heath

[somber heath]

@elder crane 👋

[elder crane]

Hey!

I don't think I have permissions to speak yet.

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[elder crane]

I see that. THANK YOU!

[somber heath]

@fathom fog 👋

@tribal sparrow I can hear you.

You don't appear to be able to hear me.

I can see my green ring activating, indicating my mic audio is working.

[tribal sparrow]

Haha, turns out that discord was using other speaker for output that doesn't work.

I think I can hear you now.

[somber heath]

Paying attention again.

[somber heath]

@worn comet 👋

@ionic remnant 👋

[ionic remnant]

Hi @somber heath

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@lusty sphinx 👋

[lusty sphinx]

wsup

[lusty sphinx]

wsup

John Lennon is life

[worn comet]

So we can talk about the whole universe here, not just about python stuff

[tribal sparrow]

Haha, We get bored sometimes.

there are a lot of stuff besides coding.

[worn comet]

yeah, I hearing good things here 😅

coding is boring

[kindred plover]

Old name: Minetest
New name: launti

[tribal sparrow]

haha, only when you encounter a bug that you can't solve.

[worn comet]

I'll download it right now sir🫡

Game inside game? sound like roblox

[worn comet]

And also if I need to create UI that new and I don't know where to start, pretty boring creating new UI

[tribal sparrow]

Start with an AI engine and iterate until you like it. It is so much easier now a days.

[worn comet]

true, v0 by vercel just help me a lot

[vocal basin]

the opposite?

like

overcoming problems is extremely important for fun and learning

[tribal sparrow]

yeah but the ones you get stuck for weeks are the real pain in the ass.

[vocal basin]

wouldn't describe that as boring anyway

[tribal sparrow]

I like the feeling after fixing it though.

[vocal basin]

@kindred plover Concord?

oh wait no that one was free

I think

I don't remember

Concord died after two weeks

[vocal basin]

(like, since it attempted to compete with now-free Overwatch (2))

[fading quiver]

hello

[vocal basin]

[fading quiver]

@primal shadow i can't talk

since i'm not verify

yeah

i'm beginner at python but for now i learned other language

since i wanna get free and official ceritfication :). i hope python has too, but i dont know

[primal shadow]

similar but different

[fading quiver]

My profile picture is blackhole

[primal shadow]

I believe they've got the black hole

I've got the inverted eclipse

[fading quiver]

i hope someday i can talk as usual

yeah precisely i use void

yeah black hole and void is simillar

[scarlet halo]

@wind raptor would you consider Fridays as weekend? if so can i stream games :P