fetch some data from a stock website in my country
#voice-chat-text-0
simple flicker
can you tell me where pls?
somber heath
weak vine
theres api's on github
but not on the official site
its a stock site i thought they'd have it
vocal basin
sounds like #data-science-and-ml thing?
unless you mean different statistics
vocal basin
maybe they expect you to pay for easy access to that data
weak vine
i would but
theres literally nothing
yeah this chart is killing me
i spent so long trying to find the end point
and when i did it jus ttold me i didnt have access
hasty nova
is anyone suggest me where should i practice sql query for data extraction as data analyst
simple flicker
<#704250143020417084>
ok nice thank you!
weak vine
the data im trying to get is literally just
a stock price at a given date
not something crazy
and they're not allowing me
like i cant just look it up
i'm just trying to automate it
yeah no this one has no paid api either
or else i would have paid for it
this data is daily not even live
vocal basin
they'd really like to make at least some money on your alternatively profitable endeavours
weak vine
like Open, close
that typa stuff
yeah but this isnt an american stock market
i'm not sure where else i'm supposed to find this data tbh lol
weak vine
this stuff is probably on investing.com i just dont like that website
zoe mama
yeah im very to coding in general
i didnt even know scraping is illegal
but thats good to know ima go find where i can pay for the api
isnt it both
either way
🧌
see
me i'm from north africa
i doubt they care
from a legal perspective
ciao
u told me it was 3 days right
vocal basin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180636687395721297/1315564410810667088/c...
this doesn't look right
okay I should stop reading whatever there is
vocal basin
I attempted using Eclipse Che but so far unsuccessfully
(cloud VSCode)
with low employee count it might be profitable
thankfully at least some companies put this as part of their values
likely someone else
vocalist of Slaughter to Prevail did break one of his teeth by biting stuff at some point
(biting raw meat while that same chunk of raw meat was also bitten by a tiger or something like that)
fast gyro
anyone wants to build a project to learn?
wise loom
anyone wants to build a project to learn?
I'm writing Python code on paper 📝 with a pencil ✏️ .
It's been going really well so far. It's the best IDE I could find.
calm spire
@wise loom i said "Yooo everyone wsp"
wise loom
that's crazy..
calm spire
that's crazy..
fr
that's me tho, i talked with you before this not our first time
the VC dead
fast gyro
I'm writing Python code on paper 📝 with a pencil ✏️ .
It's been going really w...
thats CRAZY
tough tartan
my mic is suppressed
mighty linden
@fast gyro can you share the link to that somewhere
whole bear
hi heml
mighty linden
Is there any platform to practice real development like LeetCode is for DSA... ?
whole bear
im working on a project again
mighty linden
Is there any platform to practice real development like LeetCode is for DSA... ?
i need some good source for this anyone?
whole bear
https://index.aspizu.org/index.toml
https://index.aspizu.org/packages/{NAME}/manifest.toml
https://index.aspizu.org/packages/{NAME}/{NAME}.tar.xz
vocal basin
I'd expect many would be "our company needs this feature" type of contributors like with Linux
the contributor list and other stats also lag a lot on GitHub
Rails🚀
and then you get acquired by Atlassian
@peak depot "found a consulting company trying to convince other companies that whatever you do is more needed than they think it is"
@rugged root
"so... we're replacing COBOL 2023 with Java 8"
FuzzBiz is a great security company name
rugged root
<@98195144192331776>
"so... we're replacing COBOL 2023 with Java 8"
So cursed
Even as a joke that hurts me
vocal basin
Even as a joke that hurts me
was it Clari who left before the company even upgraded to Java 8 from Java 7
I am kind of a fan of doing coding slightly academia-style where I put sources (permalinks pinned to exact commit/version) in comments that excuse code being the way it is (this takes more time in the moment, but saves a lot later on, and also helps not to violate the license if this is adopted code), and AI is doing the opposite of that
vocal basin
Cloudflare does have some WebRTC stuff
terse shoal
wait yall are talking
weird
cuz i cant hear shit
nvm how i hear yall
for some reason output is steam streaming speakers
and not Realtek
vocal basin
@amber raptor also, since everything is Cloudflare, it's very easy for Cloudflare to see which domain the connection goes to (no need to break HTTPS, they just see everything themselves)
terse shoal
vocal basin
@upbeat oasis is your bot hosted on an exclusive IP? or sharing with other cloud tenants?
I have done that through Tor before and that is, like, the worst of shared IP experience
terse shoal
the
vocal basin
by 2030 we're going to have a nuclear wasteland, for all we know
to be fair, that would mean less load on the network
servers in remote areas
or otherwise where wired is less feasible
2.4GHz and 5GHz
?
vocal basin
2.4GHz and 5GHz
@upbeat oasis
amber raptor
2.4GHz and 5GHz
and 6GHz
vocal basin
yeah, seems like with Wi-Fi 6E it gets 6GHz
hmm 2021
I still never saw 6GHz "in the wild"
amber raptor
yeah, seems like with Wi-Fi 6E it gets 6GHz
Wi-fi 6E was first one to implement 6GHz band. Technically Wifi 5 and lower could be used on 6GHz since frequency and Wifi protocol model are not linked
amber raptor
I still never saw 6GHz "in the wild"
when I upgraded my mom router, she got Wifi 7 with 6GHz support
vocal basin
1GB very sounds like it includes files that shouldn't be there
rich zealot
Sorry, it's wrong
soft scroll
hi
good, just finished hw
nah all AP classes veyr boring
oh my computer is abt to die
i gtg
paper wolf
Sup what you guys doing
fossil bluff
Waiting for my car to charge.
Tomorrow I will learn Python.
hollow skiff
grand rising everyone
obtuse falcon
paper wolf
!voice @obtuse falcon
wise cargoBOT
paper wolf
and dont spam
paper wolf
talk normal also read this
somber heath
Yahoy.
The echidna came by today.
I ended up showing Grey.
Discord knows what's best for you.
peak depot
paper wolf
how about JANuary ?
somber heath
Juana.
paper wolf
you wanna what?
somber heath
The body follows the mind, somewhat, but somatically I'm fine enough.
peak depot
Meh
jovial oxide
but why cant I participate?
paper wolf
!voice
wise cargoBOT
peak depot
Things
jovial oxide
well, I dont
I do understand
okay, but what do I need to do to get through the voice gate??
paper wolf
read the text
jovial oxide
oh, okay
peak depot
Took a video
paper wolf
Took a video
the cat doesnt know its existance
peak depot
She just needs some rebooting
quartz beacon
paper wolf
fat and sad car
jovial oxide
alright, thank you for the explenations! Have nice day!
quartz beacon
fat and sad car
Old car
paper wolf
worlds best therapy: kitty room
i would like to have a python pet
py.pet_me(user.face.cheeks)
texting*
paper wolf
a what...
somber heath
Well, it usually is.
paper wolf
not sure how to pronouce that lol
vocal basin
readability💯
vocal basin
make comments bright red
candid spire
Hello fam.
paper wolf
oh... lol
vocal basin
lint rules gone wrong?
paper wolf
lint rules gone wrong?
it has nothing lol
vocal basin
some linters require to put some comments there
which makes some projects just have //
which is worse than not having // at all
vocal basin
some linters require to put *some* comments there
(doc comments specifically, would be /// in Rust)
paper wolf
whats the difference...
somber heath
I didn't realise this was not Python because I wasn't paying attention. In Python, if you're wanting to place classes in a class for the namespacing, that's probably more where you'd use a module or submodule to group things together.
paper wolf
god i hope comment doc is same as python's
vocal basin
this would be the Python equivalent of doing that wrong thing
def example():
""""""
do_something()
i mean it will include the docs of the function call
candid spire
@paper wolf Are we talking about the comment block in code or documentation in .md file?
paper wolf
comment documentation*
vocal basin
which makes some projects just have `//`
this is very bad, especially when caused by a misconfigured linter
paper wolf
whats the difference???
candid spire
comment documentation*
Ah, you meant the function description?
vocal basin
if you have a rule that makes you write docs, then write the damn docs
vocal basin
whats the difference???
between what and what?
paper wolf
the // and ///
vocal basin
ah
different languages
// in C/C++, /// in Rust
// in Rust are not docs, they're just comments
paper wolf
both works on cpp....
candid spire
the ``//`` and ``///``
I don't think this is an appropriate way to write comments in python
vocal basin
whereas in C/C++ // gets interpreted as docs too
paper wolf
cus im using cpp 🙄
vocal basin
I think C#/Java do /// too
wind raptor
Heading out to do some work. Cheers
vocal basin
some tooling might require you to use /// in C++
e.g. when generating documentation
but most IDEs don't do that from what I've seen
paper wolf
ill still like if the cpp's linter has smarter comment documentation
just like what python does
you have the function call info like the name, arguments and its type and the comment documentation
candid spire
cus im using cpp 🙄
I have no clue what you are up to.
Can't help and avoid using cpp or short aberviation as it creates more confusion
vocal basin
but most IDEs don't do that from what I've seen
paper wolf
c++ then...
vocal basin
I have no clue what you are up to.
Can't help and avoid using cpp or short aberv...
CPP is a well-established synonym for C++
the only thing it can reasonably confused with in this context is C preprocessor
paper wolf
candid spire
CPP is a well-established synonym for C++
Good to know but again avoid using abbreviation
It can be interpreted in other way
paper wolf
pretty sure most people use cpp than c++ to refer on the c++ language...
vocal basin
you might be confusing with a different abbreviation
never abbreviate `competitive programming'
which some people do
candid spire
Idk but I hate abbreviations, especially abbreviations for noun
Like the name of language
It creates more confusion
candid spire
I have no clue what they stand for and I don't use any of those language
paper wolf
also cpp is the official c++ source code file extension.... so it makes no sense for anyone to get confused on it...
vocal basin
I have no clue what they stand for and I don't use any of those language
primarily they don't "stand for something", they themselves are proper names
just like how JFK is a proper name
candid spire
also cpp is the official c++ source code file extension.... so it makes no sense...
Idk why, but I do get confused.
Just because you know what it means, it doesn't mean everyone else should know as well
vocal basin
get educated, don't demand others to speak to you by default like you know nothing
confused => ask for clarification => you learned something
paper wolf
welp this is not the first time someone asked what cpp means....
vocal basin
"explain like I'm five" is a severely dumb concept for most of the communication
vocal basin
"explain like I'm five" is a severely dumb concept for most of the communication
(tangentially related)
paper wolf
anyways you people have some good amount of expereince on programming and stuff? probably GUI and game development...
vocal basin
i still dont understand wtf is cxx.....
some weird typesetting side-effect, seems like
candid spire
get educated, don't demand others to speak to you by default like you know nothi...
I would not like to argue with that, but I find it an ignorant comment
So it be
vocal basin
it's not a comment, it's a guideline
vocal basin
yeah, then don't feel entitled to demanding other speak the way you choose to either
vocal basin
i still dont understand wtf is cxx.....
seems like that's gradually going out of fashion so much that google now just defaults to giving the Rust crate with that name
very useful crate
candid spire
yeah, then don't feel entitled to demanding other speak the way you choose to ei...
Mind your language, you are in no position to dictate what I should and shouldn't do.
And I have not forced him to speak in a way I like.
It's up to him to do what he likes.
I simply said I can't help
candid spire
I have no clue what you are up to.
Can't help and avoid using cpp or short aberv...
.
Am I Speaking on behalf of all?
No, I find it confusing.
candid spire
CPP is a well-established synonym for C++
Yet became a topic of discussion which has no meaning to me
Simply a waste of time and no further progress on help or topic
vocal basin
I don't think this is an appropriate way to write comments in python
why this message then?
candid spire
why this message then?
Because I assumed he may have been talking about python hence I used it I don't think.....
vocal basin
Yet became a topic of discussion which has no meaning to me
by "discussion which has no meaning to me" do you mean one about C++ comments or about abbreviations?
scarlet halo
if it's a discussion that has no meaning to you then you shouldn't participate??? what am i missing?
vocal basin
if it's a discussion that has no meaning to you then you shouldn't participate??...
(I was leading up to that same question)
candid spire
by "discussion which has no meaning to me" do you mean one about C++ comments or...
I meant the debate on my comment about confusion related to cpp and can't help him.
vocal basin
the main issue we had with what you said is your demand to "avoid using abbreviation" and assertion that it "creates more confusion"
vocal basin
it's only after us calling you out on this that you clarified that it's more of a your feeling/opinion not a demand/assertion
candid spire
if it's a discussion that has no meaning to you then you shouldn't participate??...
Earlier discussion was of my interest but further debate on my response to meu was not.
Unfortunately meu got involved in heat as well and the actual discussion diluted
It's just that I'm frustrated
How it stems to meaningless talk
vocal basin
if you think it's a meaningless talk to you, maybe don't extend it further by doubling and tripling down on it
(not a guideline, just an idea)
vocal basin
cpp vs. c++ is not confusing
anyway, not entirely, there is c preprocesor
which is apparently why cxx got to be a thing
paper wolf
Doesn't mean it's guidelines to me
you are not obligated to do that sure but socially doing that is everyone's obligation
vocal basin
there historically was some amount of confusion, but nowadays there is one default meaning
bcantrill iirc still uses cpp to mean c preprocessor instead
I don't remember what talk that was
probably Summer of Rust one
candid spire
you are not obligated to do that sure but socially doing that is everyone's obli...
Yes, can we end conversation?
About it?
scarlet halo
i think "c pp" for c preprocessor could be less confusing (but that doesn't matter)
vocal basin
secret magic on how to end a conversation: don't reply
vocal basin
probably Summer of Rust one
the Twitter Explosion talk
paper wolf
uhhh preprocessor is something like the #if and stuff right?
scarlet halo
uhhh preprocessor is something like the ``#if`` and stuff right?
yes
scarlet halo
and #include right? (or am i somehow mistaken)
candid spire
secret magic on how to end a conversation: don't reply
O'really?
How about he stop suggesting me advice which I have not talked or asked about!
paper wolf
im tempted to learn c but the preprocessor looks really complex to me....
vocal basin
it's just text operations
scarlet halo
???
paper wolf
its like a whole language its self
vocal basin
not as complex as TMP
paper wolf
the heck is that
vocal basin
template metaprogramming
paper wolf
oh yeah...
scarlet halo
i mean C++ is basically just C with classes (actually the original name! also C++ has become more than that)
vocal basin
from the times when you couldn't constexpr
vocal basin
i mean C++ is basically just C with classes (actually the original name! also C+...
C
C+ (Objective C)
C++
C+++ (Java)
C++++ (C#)
paper wolf
nuh uh
scarlet halo
putting Microsoft Java (C#) above actual Java is a crime
paper wolf
java is lot different than c
vocal basin
one day I'll find what to replace Objective C with
C++ is derived from C
Java is derived from C++
paper wolf
c# is fking way too far from the c...
scarlet halo
and also C# is literally C++++
and yet from my experience it's worse than C++
paper wolf
and also C# is literally C++++
how about C##?
vocal basin
C# has historically had better ergonomics than Java
scarlet halo
how about C##?
C++++++++
vocal basin
but Java is having a different approach to reaching same features
vocal basin
there are reasons why Java still doesn't have async-await
exactly why? doesn't need it
paper wolf
java is forced OOP...
vocal basin
there are reasons why Java still doesn't have async-await
JVM advancements partially obsoleted some Kotlin features
paper wolf
the first time i try java its lot a hell compared when i start on c++
vocal basin
C
C+ (Objective C)
C++
C+++ (Java)
C++++ (C#)
everything in this list, other than C, is terrible in one way or another
Objective C is terrible in all ways
paper wolf
its the one made by apple right?
vocal basin
yes
scarlet halo
what about Holy C?
vocal basin
Swift, unlike Objective C and C++ (standard as a whole), is a good language
paper wolf
the epic lmao
vocal basin
some dialects of C++ (by just removing features) are good too
paper wolf
what about Holy C?
i forgot the terms used there lol
vocal basin
C# is weird, idk where it's going
scarlet halo
its going down to the trashbin along with microsoft as a whole
vocal basin
C# is weird, idk where it's going
something to motivate Java not to rot
paper wolf
java should be replaced by something else
scarlet halo
ugh i gotta implement a whole ass animation system from scratch
vocal basin
Java 8 should be replaced by something else
vocal basin
Java is on track towards becoming a better language
eventually
in a couple of
decades?
hopefully not more
paper wolf
if our profesor didnt make us learn it ill never touch it...
vocal basin
at least you don't have to learn Pascal
paper wolf
prety sure pascal is better than java
vocal basin
it's not
paper wolf
pascal as in the functional language?
vocal basin
the what
scarlet halo
i have no issues with java. sometimes it's a little hard to code in but whatever
vocal basin
Pascal is not functional at all
paper wolf
any one of you guys tried COBOL?
vocal basin
Language H is better
paper wolf
i hear most banking system still use it...
vocal basin
COBOL and Enterprise Java kind of exist in the same space
COBOL is no longer something you get paid a lot for
it's somewhere towards the lower end of salaries for programmers
paper wolf
cobol is finally retiring?
vocal basin
no, just the market is back to normal
less productivity => less value for the company => less pay for the worker
no more excessive demand
vocal basin
Lisp
paper wolf
cobol ones powered the world
scarlet halo
paper wolf
what...
vocal basin
red phone, clearly
paper wolf
💀
scarlet halo
just analyze this screen ratio
balmy ice
What game?
hasty sable
Hi
vocal basin
... I wouldn't call Battlefield a military sim
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@peak depot we're migrating back to 0
peak depot
i saw
vocal basin
@heavy zenith are you using any sort of shared mutable state?
have you tried implementing it without threads first?
don't even ask ChatGPT
look up real code examples instead
solar ridge
@heavy zenith what are you working on?
mint bison
int main() {
printf("hello, world");
return 0;
}
willow light
vocal basin
@heavy zenith what did you mean by crashing? segfault?
did you try running it with valgrind?
there might be a possibility that your main thread just ends
mint bison
```
heavy zenith
void Accept(server *server) {
assert(server);
if (!server->listening) {
Listen(server);
}
unsigned threadID;
while (server->listening) {
conn * connection = AcceptConn(server->sock);
if (!connection) {
continue;
}
HANDLE hThread = (HANDLE) _beginthreadex(NULL, 0, handleConnection, connection, 0, &threadID);
if (hThread == nullptr) {
printf("Error creating thread\n");
}
printf("Thread ID: %d\n", threadID);
CloseHandle( hThread );
}
}
dry jasper
Paste bin
mint bison
```lang
{code goes here}
```
void Accept(server *server) {
assert(server);
if (!server->listening) {
Listen(server);
}
unsigned threadID;
while (server->listening) {
conn * connection = AcceptConn(server->sock);
if (!connection) {
continue;
}
HANDLE hThread = (HANDLE) _beginthreadex(NULL, 0, handleConnection, connection, 0, &threadID);
if (hThread == nullptr) {
printf("Error creating thread\n");
}
printf("Thread ID: %d\n", threadID);
CloseHandle( hThread );
}
}
u mean it also ignores the rest of the main thread?
heavy zenith
int main() {
server* server = InitServer(8080);
Listen(server);
Accept(server);
printf("ending");
FreeServer(server);
return 0;
}
wheat sigil
Uh oh, sounds like we're not talking about Python in voice! Call in inquisitors! 
vocal basin
the what
mint bison
int main() {
pthread_t thread1, thread2;
server* server = InitServer(8080);
pthread_create(&thread1, NULL, Accept, NULL);
pthread_create(&thread2, NULL, Listen, NULL);
//blah blah blah
return 0;
}
solar ridge
concurrent? @heavy zenith
i think you can do something like this
class Thread : public TThread
{
public:
Thread( int id) : Id(id), Count(0) {}
private:
unsigned long Run();
int Id;
int Count;
};
unsigned long Thread::Run()
{
while (Count++ < 10)
{
Sleep(100); // let other thread have some time
// don't let cout be interrupted
TCriticalSection::Lock lock(CS);
cout << "[Thread" << Id << "] Iteration " << Count << endl;
}
SetEvent(Events[Id]); // Tell main thread I'm done
return 0;
}
was this to illustrate the "accidentally leaving main" error?
mint bison
was this to illustrate the "accidentally leaving main" error?
no this is just me trying to wing it
didnt fully understand what he wanted
I think I have an idea of it now
he essentially wants async
vocal basin
if you reach return from main without joining threads, they'll just terminate
mint bison
mint bison
if you reach `return` from `main` without joining threads, they'll just terminat...
you seem to know more about this then me, how does pthreads work
vocal basin
I wouldn't really recommend messing with async in a language without proper support for it
solar ridge
I wouldn't really recommend messing with async in a language without proper supp...
true
vocal basin
you can do epoll but, like, that's not really a simple interface either
and I don't really think Windows provides proper epoll
solar ridge
btw anyone knows how the vc suppression goes away?
wise cargoBOT
heavy zenith
and I don't really think Windows provides proper `epoll`
not from what i've seen jn
amber raptor
and I don't really think Windows provides proper `epoll`
Does it provide proper anything?
Nope
mint bison
Does it provide proper anything?
Print function
prime current
Why is it showing nothing in the output?
vocal basin
Why is it showing nothing in the output?
no print, you're just evaluating the expressions and discarding their results
prime current
What do you mean? "Just evaluating the expressions and discarding their results"
vocal basin
What do you mean? "Just evaluating the expressions and discarding their results...
!e
1 + 2
:warning: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
!e
print(1 + 2)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
3
@vocal basinOh thank you so much
I thought I had to do print(" ") which would then make it a string
and wouldn't give me the result I wanted
vocal basin
!e
print(f"{1 + 2 = }")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 + 2 = 3
(random fancy thing that you don't need yet)
prime current
numbers are easy to tell
prime current
temp=45
preassure=80
if(temp<40 or preassure > 90) or (temp > 45 or preassure < 30):
print('sound alarm')
having no print before if just feels so weird
vocal basin
`pressure' is spelled without `a' in it
vocal basin
having no print before if just feels so weird
the point is to print if and only if some alarm condition happens
otherwise it stays silent intentionally
prime current
im talking about before the initial parenthesis
"if(temp<40 or preassure > 90) or (temp > 45 or preassure < 30):"
this line
print(if(temp<40 or preassure > 90) or (temp > 45 or preassure < 30)): but it was incorrect
vocal basin
ah, no, you can't easy do that in Python
in some other languages you can print something and then use the result anyway
but not in Python, unfortunately
prime current
why is it not allowed?
vocal basin
what you would want to do if print_and_return existed:
if print_and_return((temp<40 or preassure > 90) or (temp > 45 or preassure < 30)):
...
however no such print_and_return exist in Python
why does print itself not behave like that?
because print can take in more than one argument
!e
print(1, 2, 3)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 2 3
print is a function, and 1, 2, 3 is a list of its arguments
prime current
how about 100, 200, 300?
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
print(100, 200, 300)
```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
100 200 300
thats wo weird
vocal basin
so it takes in `1`, `2` and `3` individually
printing them with spaces in-between
prime current
oh so its the comma that makes it work
vocal basin
what you would want to do if `print_and_return` existed:
```py
if print_and_retu...
!e
def print_and_return(x):
print(x)
return x
if print_and_return(1 + 2 == 3):
print("a")
if print_and_return(1 + 2 == 5):
print("b")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | a
003 | False
(might be more confusing, so feel free to ignore this one for now)
vocal basin
so why doesn't the same work with numbers?
!e
print("a", "b", "c")
print("a, b, c")
print(please, help)
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
print("a", "b", "c")
print("a, b, c")
```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | a b c
002 | a, b, c
!e
a = 123
b = 456
c = 789
print(a, b, c)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
123 456 789
will the the last print print no matter what or is it contingent on if temp is greater than 0?
vocal basin
try running the code with various inputs and see what happens
vocal basin
it runs regardless
can you find an input that makes the program not print that?
vocal basin
what happens if you give it an empty input
prime current
im reviewing an assignment
calm spire
sorry guys for join conv but i can help
@prime current what is ur problem so i can help you
prime current
not a problem im just trying to articulate in words any uncertainity or something not sure of 100%
even if i have a good idea
i had a feeling it was going to print regardless
calm spire
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm i see what happeining i'll look at ur code and tell you
prime current
its not my code it's my teachers lol
am i using the correct word
'indented'
the last line is not 'indented'
?
calm spire
the last line is not 'indented'
like i see it's not going to have problem
but WAIT
get me a second
@prime current ur code is wrong
bc it's said "positive and negative temps"
and you using "temp > 0"
vocal basin
the last line is not 'indented'
I think it is there to illustrate that the program always progresses past the end of the if
calm spire
I think it is there to illustrate that the program always progresses past the en...
so like my knowlage of python his code of last line is right
calm spire
its an if statement
it's not
i'll show you proof from chatgpt
bc i am lazy to open python
on VS Code
calm spire
see. ( don't use AI for coding this just a proof )
prime current
im talking about the code in the last screenshot
calm spire
@prime current
vocal basin
bc it's said "positive and negative temps"
also please read the slides again
it said to run the code with such inputs
that has no relation to code itself
prime current
I think it is there to illustrate that the program always progresses past the en...
why?
what if it was on the same line?
for example
vocal basin
what if it was on the same line?
if it was indented, then it would only run when the other print runs
vocal basin
the last line is not 'indented'
yes
prime current
you're right
so because it was outdented it printed anyway
and its not printing now because i idented it
wise loom
prime current
what's the elif use for?
somber heath
what's the elif use for?
Each if block consists ofpy if condition: # exactly one if ... elif another_condition: # zero or more elif (else, if) ... else: # at most one else ...In this order. At most one indent is run per reading, the first condition to be satisfied. If the if condition isn't satisfied, check the next elif down and so on. If no conditions are satisfied and else exists, run that indent.
somber heath
Think of it like having a stack of cards. You take from the top until you find what you're looking for, then you stop and do what it says. (if / elif). Then, if there's an else, if you've gone through all the cards and found nothing to do, you do that.
prime current
Each if block consists of```py
if condition: # exactly one if
...
elif anot...
👍
im trying to wrap my head around line 5
it would be easy to understand if it was elif temp == 0
but the sky condition==sunny is throwing me off
somber heath
Well, if you get to the elif because temp <= 0, then it's cold, but if it's sunny, then it prints that message.
Everything that could happen in the elifs and elses there is predicated on temp > 0 being False.
prime current
i think the fact that its combining it is making it harder for me to comprehend even though i get it
somber heath
If temp > 0, True, then do that and nothing else.
But if not temp > 0, then check the next thing down.
somber heath
Then if that's False, check the next thing down and so on until you either hit something that's truthy, or hit the else.
If it exists.
"Here's a bunch of conditions and accompanying actions. Go through them in order. If you find a satisfied condition, stop checking and do its action. If you run out of things to check and there's an else, do that."
"Do only one thing at most."
Without an else, it's possible you may do no things, depending on how you write your conditions.
prime current
How about this
I don't get line one
"datetime.today()?
or should there be a
user_birthday=input('Birthday: ') before line 1?
somber heath
or should there be a
user_birthday=input('Birthday: ') before line 1?
I think there is implied code above in this example, yes.
An importing of the datetime module and the conversion of some birthday data into an object comparable with the datetime.today() object.
lavish epoch
yoo
tacit crane
YES
lavish epoch
what is good
inner hill
@tacit crane
GitHub wouldn't allow any external db connection or anything like backend
It is used only for hoisting static frontend
paper wolf
wdym?
oh the github hosting...
ofc its only static frontend
github will just show the html files you provided
wise loom
@paper wolf what are you doing
dry jasper
upper basin
Good brother, you doing okay?
I found a website for us to try later.
I think it's called codeclash or sth.
paper wolf
<@1200330195387813903> what are you doing
just got home and im resting
wise loom
I think it's called codeclash or sth.
we shall try it yes
wise loom
@paper wolf in meeting sorry
candid spire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN0nViY4gn4
Avoid this company at all costs.
It is mafia disguised as company
Several months ago, this very company posted a job application for the Data Analyst role.
To my surprise they offered me a different role after the assessment and interview. I chose to decline and move on, because I found the job unethical, The job was related to falsifying audit work
candid spire
Several months ago, this very company posted a job application for the Data Anal...
@wise loom
vocal basin
deluluitte
wise loom
Several months ago, this very company posted a job application for the Data Anal...
probably widespread in Deloitte, KPMG, Ernst & Young, PwC
now they have LLMs, they can hide behind plausible deniability of LLM hallucinations
there's really no standards, LLMs opened the flood gates for all the garbage imaginable
calm spire
<@&831776746206265384> sorry for pinging. but i wanna know if this break any rule? or anything?
vocal basin
<@&831776746206265384> sorry for pinging. but i wanna know if this break any rul...
if you want to ask something, DM @rapid crown, since this isn't urgent
calm spire
if you want to ask something, DM <@683001325440860340>, since this isn't urgent
ohh okay
prime current
wouldn't the last else print regardless since it's not nested?
vocal basin
wouldn't the last else print regardless since it's not nested?
it always prints only once (except for when runtime errors happen), each code path ends in one
btw, aside from the ifs: there is an error in that code example, in real code this would generally have isdecimal instead of isdecimal
why? there are strings which are numeric but no decimal, therefore int(...) would fail on them
vocal basin
it always prints only once (except for when runtime errors happen), each code pa...
last print only happens when not score.isnumeric()
primal shadow
wouldn't the last else print regardless since it's not nested?
The last else is tied to the first if
woeful blaze
vocal basin
judging by discord reporting non-0 ping, seemingly works without a VPN this time
somber heath
judging by discord reporting non-0 ping, seemingly works without a VPN this time
I'd say suspicious, more than anything else.
somber heath
Something against printers?
vocal basin
@rugged root printers are spying on your packets by deeply inspecting them
iron geyser
🙂
vocal basin
even if different byedpi settings both allow HTTPS to work fine, still influences how WebRTC reacts
even though WebRTC isn't passed through SOCKS5
primal shadow
Ooh, there's some people
vocal basin
I'm currently attempting write a TLA+ spec for some part of how https://docs.rs/futures-sink behaves
iron geyser
I am testing stable diffusion 🥰
vocal basin
... getting surprised that deadlock errors aren't happening
... then realising there is in fact no deadlock it just loops forever in the same state
having = and == have swapped meaning compared to C is slightly unusual
wise iron
let's play word spud!
wise iron
or is it just word spud and you're very excited?
it's just some extremely tiny side project i coded in python
primal shadow
how does one play
foggy field
I just finished version 2.7 muspl2, my mp3 player that fixed some bugs, and added plugins (one I made is available now: SyncMaster, which lets you sync two directories easily within muspl2), It also added themes which you can edit in the settings, it comes preset with two themes: classic and new. I also increased the maximum tcaf file play size (it will not unpack it if it is under that amount), which makes it quicker to save and share music between devices. https://vmanisherenow.itch.io/muspl-2
wise iron
a word is provided in the start, then one must ad on to that, if people like it, another person must add on to that addition, if the people don't like it, a word is randomly chosen from the set instead.
primal shadow
how many people must like it?
or not like it?
Maybe you could build it into the bot
then we could play here more easily
that would be fun
hello
wise iron
a like corresponds to 1 point, a dislike corresponds to losing a point.
wise iron
how many people must like it?
if the points you earn is NOT a negative number, your word passes to the next person.
vocal basin
lol
prime current
why is this invalid?
x=10
if x > 5:
print('x is bigger than 5')
else:
print('x is less than 5')
they are both indented the same
marble dust
Okay
Could you check dms?
Just real quick
When I invite my bot and everything, it wont join.
wind raptor
!stream 778585347562930208 2h
wise cargoBOT
✅ @calm ginkgo can now stream until <t:1760164924:f>.
marble dust
I gave it permission and it says I invited it.
I did
And it didnt work
I even made a new server where I am owner.
Still didnt work.
I watch youtube and tutorials.
Still wont work.
I'm just lost.
Yes
Would I show you? Like could you give me permission to ss?
Just real quick.
Could you let me screenshare?
So I can show you?
Ah
Alr lemme see
I did everything even that
What do you mean olaf?
I did
Before
Still wouldnt work
I DID
bots
yup
calm ginkgo
did you select Admin permission? What was permission int you got?
the thing in permissions=
calm ginkgo
yes
marble dust
It dosent show
umm
Yes
no'
no
Could we make a dm call?
So I can screenshare
yes
I own the server
Of discord or the browser
I'm saying refresh what
Yes
app
and I did website aswell
just to test
I refreshed
okay
I did
I added a bot
not mine tho
Wait do what?
I didnt hear you
This?
calm ginkgo
marble dust
I did
?
No clue
I just accepted
wait unaccept what?
yes
keep going
okay
You lost me at discord
calm ginkgo
it should look like this
once it's invited, turn off public bot and set default authorization to None
marble dust
Give me a sec
robust bone
Hey
calm ginkgo
Give me a sec
I assume it's fixed now ^_^
wind raptor
!stream 967785147158110278
wise cargoBOT
✅ @severe cobalt can now stream until <t:1760161225:f>.
mighty linden
what is he building?
obsidian dragon
marble dust
@wind raptor Goodnight man thanks!
wind raptor
!unstream 967785147158110278
wise cargoBOT
❌ This member doesn't have video permissions to remove!
@severe cobalt's stream has been suspended!
somber heath
@storm depot
storm depot
hello
storm depot
<@876457483340775485>
could i learn python from you
actualy i often see you here soo
i thought i should ask you this faivor
storm depot
@calm spire
hello
actually i am learning python
yeah i am bigner
mee tooo
ohh thanks
i made an pdf with help of chat gpt and i am practicing it
i think so i am learning string
ohh thanks
actualy this option will start when i willl be siting in vc for 4 hrs ;-;
and type 25 words in one minute
so i couldnt share at this moment
so sorry for this
yeah i dont why this is hapning with me
;-;
wait let me verify once more
You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks
see its giving me this message
calm spire
You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks
see its giving me t...
I'll ask a moderater
storm depot
@calm spire check this out
@
@somber heath
check this out
its ok i will sit here its ok
@somber heath
calm spire
<@1251680506429313076> check this out
wow, this really cool
storm depot
thanks
storm depot
yeah actualy i am weak in english
calm spire
yeah actualy i am weak in english
you're not, your english is good :>
storm depot
nah not in typing i am weak in speaking
calm spire
nah not in typing i am weak in speaking
ohhhhh i understand now
same with you
but i try to talk even i am dumb in making convs with plps
@storm depot
storm depot
@somber heath come int
voice text
opal do you do job ?
couse you know that much
i think you have job
in best company
dry jasper
Swage die
somber heath
in best company
storm depot
https://tenor.com/view/that-is-the-biggest-mystery-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate...
you dont ?
opal where are you from ?
royal bane
Can somebody ping me
Testing something
royal bane
Thanks
somber heath
@royal bane What are you testing that requires someone to ping you?
royal bane
<@720491949827555358> What are you testing that requires someone to ping you?
Notification settings
upper basin
!e
a = [1, 2, 3]
print(~a[0])
bro whats this
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
a = [1, 2, 3]
print(~a[0])
```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
-2
!e
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
!e
a = [1, 2, 3]
for val in a:
print(~val)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | -2
002 | -3
003 | -4
!e
a = int(input("whats your name"))
wise cargoBOT
!e
a = int(input("whats your name"))
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | whats your nameTraceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | a = int([31minput[0m[1;31m("whats your name")[0m)
004 | [31m~~~~~[0m[1;31m^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^[0m
005 | [1;35mEOFError[0m: [35mEOF when reading a line[0m
nah it was not about valorant
guys how much it will take me to unlock my mic ;-;
you dont have to told me that much bigger name of mine you can say arjun
is you are okay with it
yeah couse its my realname
yeah its good tpp
too*
upper basin
!e
a = [True, False, True]
print(~a)
:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m2[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | print([1;31m~a[0m)
004 | [1;31m^^[0m
005 | [1;35mTypeError[0m: [35mbad operand type for unary ~: 'list'[0m
gaunt patrol
hello
somber heath
@gaunt patrol 👋
gaunt patrol
it feels like a language gets "drilled in" after like 2 months of practicing with it, for me at least
dry jasper
gaunt patrol
Thats so funny lol @upper basin
dry jasper
storm depot
@upper basin hey here are some forenigher they are here to visit jaipurs city history and they are here in exibution to see the hand made art of rajasthan
they visited our shop too
and they took some pitcure too
royal patio
ashen garnet
Join vc
wise loom
!e
```py
a = [True, False, True]
print(~a)
```
from BitVector import BitVector
a = BitVector(bitlist=[1,0,1])
print(a)
print(~a)
output:
101
010
short owl
gobble gooble gobble gooble ... one of us , one of us
carmine slate
ok sir
somber heath
It took me a short while to realise you were deafened.
short owl
Mental As Anything -- The Best Of [ Full Album ] Australian pop rock
carmine slate
sorry sir i didn't get u
short owl
great album @somber heath
somber heath
@languid bay 👋
carmine slate
sir what u do
jolly rampart
Hi @somber heath
somber heath
sir what u do
Help. Instruct. Annoy.
carmine slate
Hi <@317279909112446976>
hey buddy which game do u play
somber heath
Much guidance is available.
short owl
Have you done any PC to microcontroller interfacing code ( pyserial ) @somber heath
somber heath
No.
short owl
Tkinter GUI layout @somber heath
jolly rampart
mmm Valorant, GTA V, F1(2020) and some indie games if possible
somber heath
Tkinter GUI layout <@317279909112446976>
Not well.
jolly rampart
hey buddy which game do u play
you? btw?
carmine slate
mmm Valorant, GTA V, F1(2020) and some indie games if possible
haha u play mlbb? boss
short owl
was looking for some ideas on PDF books on , how to layout a GUI @somber heath
jolly rampart
haha u play mlbb? boss
nope!
jolly rampart
mmm
jolly rampart
lol I ain't a youtuber to get views
carmine slate
i want my cut for this advice 🤣
jolly rampart
also not much into mobile games
carmine slate
o
cool
i don't know i love playing games
now life is playing games with me
🥲
jolly rampart
AAA games caught my attention so you should try them too
jolly rampart
now life is playing games with me
lol sed!
jolly rampart
what u do btw boss
Student!
carmine slate
cool
jolly rampart
what u do btw boss
you?
carmine slate
school or college ?
somber heath
@proper fern 👋
jolly rampart
school or college ?
schooling still!
carmine slate
u r so young '
jolly rampart
u r so young '
yep!
carmine slate
looking for a internship
jolly rampart
mmm
proper fern
hello
jolly rampart
looking for a internship
internship on what field?
proper fern
im new
carmine slate
data enginner
jolly rampart
hello @proper fern
proper fern
thanks
carmine slate
y u like python
jolly rampart
data enginner
mmm
carmine slate
what u thinking of becomming
jolly rampart
Idk currently into microcontrollers
jolly rampart
mmm in what way?
carmine slate
u know to choose that
jolly rampart
u know to choose that
well nothing much in specific since python has grabbed me into I'm just exploring the fields possible like I was into basic web dev, then game-dev (didnt go well) and finally into microcontrollers(since i was fond of robotics). So yeah comparatively it has got my attention!
carmine slate
yeah u r so young millions of possiblilities
jolly rampart
I'd love to explore more fields possible can you suggest me few like what else is interesting to explore using python
carmine slate
i dont know bro i have also touched almost all fields now doing data engineering
jolly rampart
Also @carmine slate I'd like to get permission to stream on #off-topic-lounge-text can you help me with that?
carmine slate
if im of any use i'll
jolly rampart
mmm guess you're new to the server?
wise loom
mmm guess you're new to the server?
2025-10-11, he joined today, says right on his profile
jolly rampart
2025-10-11, he joined today, says right on his profile
yep didnt notice lol
jolly rampart
Across all discord
I haven't used discord for a very long time so yeah I'll learn i guess
primal shadow
That's why I'm letting you know, we can't all know, but we can all learn