God, jokes aside I loved this guy. Such a cool figure.
#voice-chat-text-0
upper basin
vocal basin
I have this
upper basin
I have this
I see.
upper basin
hehe
vocal basin
and this
vocal basin
24 total
upper basin
Yeah, 24 if you get a newer GPU.
vocal basin
from what I'm seeing, latest Milk-V released thing doesn't have an NPU
(didn't buy that one yet)
upper basin
Ngl, I love mini itx.
vocal basin
I have https://milkv.io/jupiter
upper basin
It just looks so elegant.
vocal basin
I have <https://milkv.io/jupiter>
this allegedly has PoE
upper basin
I have <https://milkv.io/jupiter>
I see.
upper basin
Honestly? I thought you'd HAD to go with one of those mainstream motherboard models.
Based on your cpu.
Didn't know you could use these.
vocal basin
I have two motherboards, and (I don't know how many) SBCs
not counting the previous AMD stuff I had, it's broken
upper basin
I have two motherboards, and (I don't know how many) SBCs
Your 8700f wouldn't work on jupiter right?
vocal basin
wouldn't
upper basin
Okay that makes sense now.
vocal basin
Jupiter is an SBC, not a motherboard
upper basin
Gotcha.
valid bobcat
Hola
vocal basin
I have this
valid bobcat
Quien habla español aquí
vocal basin
Quien habla español aquí
the server is primarily English-only
upper basin
Jupiter is an SBC, not a motherboard
It looks like a great gift for a ubuntu programmer hehe.
vocal basin
It looks like a great gift for a ubuntu programmer hehe.
it has four separate modes of being powered
valid bobcat
Quien habla español aquí
upper basin
it has four separate modes of being powered
For its price, it's very good.
valid bobcat
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
it has four separate modes of being powered
upper basin
Are these meant for servers?
vocal basin
not necessarily
upper basin
I see.
vocal basin
servers usually don't have audio i/o
whole bear
Hello guys
whole bear
For mac
upper basin
however no SATA
I would have guessed it would have it.
whole bear
@unique wyvern r u using python to create shapes.
wise loom
long dragon
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UaQYdZli9JE
i can't controll my laugh
upper basin
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UaQYdZli9JE
I have a feeling some people do this already.
And that makes me sad hehe.
wise loom
I have a feeling some people do this already.
Yes
wise loom
Why are you muted and deafened in the vc?
i've unmuted
upper basin
qiskit
What was the command for seeing information about a package Opal?
!pypi qiskit
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
RISC it for the Qiskit.
paper wolf
@upper basin im learning quantum computing, and i learn that you dont get the output on single cycle.....
but i dont understand how you build the quantum gates
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> im learning quantum computing, and i learn that you dont g...
IRL you have to measure many times to sample from the distribution formed by your state.
upper basin
but i dont understand how you build the quantum gates
Mathematically, they're unitary matrices. You build them using other elementary gates, aka some set of 1 qubit and 2 qubit gates.
paper wolf
yeah but based on what i learned if you measure a quantum particle the state of it will loose
upper basin
yeah but based on what i learned if you measure a quantum particle the state of ...
You should learn linear algebra, and then what tensors are, then what tensor contraction is, and then read quantum circuits.
You're going into physics, which is not relevant to quantum computing on a software/mathematic side.
Quantum computing is mainly an implementation paradigm for Quantum "mechanics" not physics.
paper wolf
im watching 3blue 1brown and he has a video where he has this realy nice explenation on the mechanics
but im lost
upper basin
Quantum states are vectors with complex values and 2 norm normalized (sum of square of elements is 1). Quantum operators are unitary matrices (square matrices that preserve norm) that can be applied to quantum states (which are vectors) to "update" the definition of the state (this is called interference, basically just the change in a vector when you apply a matrix to it).
somber heath
@static charm 👋
static charm
Hello @somber heath
upper basin
i wanna know if i know it ._.
You should know what vectors are, what matrices are, what norm is, how to multiply a matrix with a vector, etc.
upper basin
matrix is...
A transformation for a vector.
If your matrix preserves norm (length of the vector), then you can think of it as a rotation.
paper wolf
on the video im talking about he has this process where, he say you apply something to the state and somehow the state will slowly point to the direction of where the answer may be located
but what was the thing you will apply?? and how you will know what value to apply??
upper basin
but what was the thing you will apply?? and how you will know what value to appl...
Just watch Quantum Machine Learning by Peter Wittek on yt.
It'll be more helpful.
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
analog tusk
oh yeah i dont have over 25 messages
so :)
yep lol
i've been thinking of getting a bearded dragon
low maintenance, chill asf
good pets for lazy people
clean shaven dragon
smoove
aight imma head out. you guys have fun
wind raptor
!cpban 1348922980255662121
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @terse merlin until <t:1759413995:f> (4 days).
wind raptor
aight imma head out. you guys have fun
Have a great one!
somber heath
@blissful ferry 👋
blissful ferry
@somber heath 👋
floral musk
<@1066025031563485295> 👋
Hi. Why is voice chat chat disabled?
shut belfry
@floral musk #voice-verification
somber heath
Hi. Why is voice chat chat disabled?
!voice
wise cargoBOT
shut belfry
!voice
floral musk
okok. Interesting ahh topic. I'm listening.
wind raptor
somber heath
@shrewd dragon 👋
shrewd dragon
@somber heath yo sorry my audio is messed up real quick
upper basin
Real or airsoft?
gentle flint
hi
shut belfry
Real or airsoft?
for legal reasons, airsoft 🤣
upper basin
for legal reasons, airsoft 🤣
Wdym?
atomic bloom
<@695328072781791354> <@557839557366906883> 👋
👋
floral musk
lol]
ocean gazelle
is that game built on python language?
yo can we scrape a movie ticket booking website data?if yes,how do i do that any suggestions?
shut belfry
prisma crystal
Which game it is?
floral musk
@amber raptor 💀
sorry wat.
Yea what did you say you heard on the forum ? @amber raptor
unique wyvern
bg3
vocal basin
you can always spend time more efficiently:
vocal basin
what did I walk in on
bg3
dapper sable
vocal basin
this time seems to work as is
somber heath
@quiet nebula 👋
quiet nebula
<@1296951009246974036> 👋
HIIIII
somber heath
!e py foo = 123 bar = foo // 10 baz = foo % 10 print(bar, baz)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
foo = 123
bar = foo // 10
baz = foo % 10
print(bar, baz)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
12 3
time stuff uses quite a lot of divmod
(as an example of where it's used)
!d operator.floordiv
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!d operator.ifloordiv
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@somber heath fun fact: in Erlang /= means not equal
somber heath
@eternal spoke@sweet gust👋
vocal basin
no mutation in the language => free to abuse syntax like that
somber heath
!e py foo = 123 ab = divmod(foo, 10) print(ab)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
foo = 123
ab = divmod(foo, 10)
print(ab)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
(12, 3)
!e py foo = 123 a, b = divmod(foo, 10) print(a, b)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
foo = 123
a, b = divmod(foo, 10)
print(a, b)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
12 3
!e py a, b, c = 'abc' print(a) print(b) print(c)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a, b, c = 'abc'
print(a)
print(b)
print(c)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | a
002 | b
003 | c
sweet gust
@somber heath Sorry I was not able to respond, I am not able to use the mic.
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
and I didn't choose to learn Pascal or Python, that was kind of just chosen for me by others
somber heath
!source
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@calm mirage 👋
wary jacinth
!e
e = "a" print(e)
wise cargoBOT
!e
`e = "a"
print(e)`
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m2[0m
002 | print(e)
003 | [1;35mIndentationError[0m: [35munexpected indent[0m
!code
wise cargoBOT
wary jacinth
!e
print(e)```:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m2[0m
002 | print(e)
003 | [1;35mIndentationError[0m: [35munexpected indent[0m
!e
print(e)```:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
a
oh, this is such a horrible selection design
what happens here:
my message doesn't have a space or a newline at the end,
however there is a space before (edited) for the sake of display,
you can't select (edited),
but you can select the space
test test
aaaaaa
somber heath
name = "Peter" # name = input("What is your name? ")
...```!e
_next_line = iter("""\
Peter
""".splitlines()).__next__
input = lambda *args: (print(*args, end=""), (line := _next_line()), print(line))[1].rstrip()
name = input("What is your name? ")
print("hi", name)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | What is your name? Peter
002 | hi Peter
!e
parties = {"alice", "bob", "eve", "steve"}
print(parties)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
{'steve', 'alice', 'bob', 'eve'}
!e
parties = {"alice", "bob", "eve", "steve"}
print(parties)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
{'steve', 'eve', 'alice', 'bob'}
probably used {...} instead of [...]
({1,2,3} might be a misrememberment from Lua/C/C++)
wary jacinth
!e
for words in table:
print(words)```:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m4[0m
002 | [1;31mprint[0m(words)
003 | [1;31m^^^^^[0m
004 | [1;35mIndentationError[0m: [35mexpected an indented block after 'for' statement on line 3[0m
weh?
vocal basin
!e
```table = {"mist", "loaf", "rom"}
for words in table:
print(words)```
missing indentation before print
vocal basin
!e
```py
parties = {"alice", "bob", "eve", "steve"}
print(parties)
```
this illustrates what the problem is with sets
somber heath
!e py for letter in "abc": print(letter)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
for letter in "abc":
print(letter)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | a
002 | b
003 | c
!e py letter = "a" print(letter) letter = "b" print(letter) letter = "c" print(letter)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
letter = "a"
print(letter)
letter = "b"
print(letter)
letter = "c"
prin...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | a
002 | b
003 | c
@wary jacinth if you mean Lua, then that has a very weird notion of storage, really should not take too much of a reference from there
vocal basin
Lua mixes list and dict from Python as a single construct
somber heath
!e py my_list = ["apples", "pears", "oranges", "guavas", "bananas", "apples", "lemons", "pears"] for fruit in my_list: print(fruit)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
my_list = ["apples", "pears", "oranges", "guavas", "bananas", "apples",...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | apples
002 | pears
003 | oranges
004 | guavas
005 | bananas
006 | apples
007 | lemons
008 | pears
hurt my brain
somber heath
!e py my_list = {"apples", "pears", "oranges", "guavas", "bananas", "apples", "lemons", "pears"} for fruit in my_list: print(fruit)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
my_list = {"apples", "pears", "oranges", "guavas", "bananas", "apples",...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | pears
002 | lemons
003 | apples
004 | oranges
005 | guavas
006 | bananas
unordered
somber heath
{a: b, c: d, e: f}```This is a dictionary.!e
# to illustrate the typical exception
from math import nan, inf
print({float('inf'), float('inf')})
print({inf, inf})
print({float('nan'), float('nan')})
print({nan, nan})
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {inf}
002 | {inf}
003 | {nan, nan}
004 | {nan}
@wary jacinth there is no type casting in Python
somber heath
!e py import random choices = "apples", "pears", "oranges" for _ in range(10): choice = random.choice(choices) print(choice)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import random
choices = "apples", "pears", "oranges"
for _ in range(10)...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | pears
002 | apples
003 | pears
004 | pears
005 | apples
006 | oranges
007 | apples
008 | apples
009 | apples
010 | apples
except for literal function called typing.cast
everything else is conversion and/or construction
not casting
int('123') is conversion/parsing
@wary jacinth link?
yes
wary jacinth
vocal basin
please be not w3schools
@wary jacinth HTML tutorials on w3schools were made before it became a content farm
everything afterwards is garbage
wary jacinth
so they're more accurate?
wary jacinth
ah'
vocal basin
`int('123')` is conversion/parsing
str(123) is conversion/getting string representation
@wary jacinth no, that's entirely invalid
somber heath
!e py value = {1, 2, 3} result = type(value) print(result)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
value = {1, 2, 3}
result = type(value)
print(result)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<class 'set'>
in all languages
you never convert variable types in any language ever
casting deals with values/expressions
wary jacinth
!e
print(type(a))```well I guess I now know what other tutorial to tell people to stay away from
wise cargoBOT
!e
```a = 2
print(type(a))```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<class 'int'>
!e py a = [] b = [] c = a print(a == b) print(a is b) print(a is c)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = []
b = []
c = a
print(a == b)
print(a is b)
print(a is c)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | True
002 | False
003 | True
semantically, you can shadow variables in Python with a variable of a different type
it doesn't change the type as far the type model is concerned, it creates a new variable
probably time to go too
somber heath
@flat magnet
vocal basin
idk where the other 53 are
somber heath
@jovial sinew 👋
jovial sinew
hello
somber heath
!voice If you were wondering.
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
Let me talk
That lays in your hands. See the above link 🙂
severe cobalt
I know
somber heath
In that case, I don't have the ability to allow you to talk.
severe cobalt
Do you think i can learn programming without any teacher
Am completely unknown about this
somber heath
Do you think i can learn programming without any teacher
Someone to help you learn is often useful.
But you can self teach, yes. With resources.
!resources
wise cargoBOT
severe cobalt
Oh what are the basic rules and cmds
severe cobalt
Are you a bot ?
somber heath
I am not.
severe cobalt
Oh lol
somber heath
I should keep a tally board.
severe cobalt
Bro i did not say the server rules
I said the programming language and rules some basic
somber heath
You did say rules and commands and you weren't specific.
See the resources page linked above.
somber heath
It is an exercise in specifics, yes.
severe cobalt
How long have you been programming
somber heath
You're allowed to ask.
somber heath
I'd prefer to let that remain a mystery.
severe cobalt
Dang
somber heath
I couldn't remember how long I've been doing Python, that's how long I've been doing it.
severe cobalt
💀
somber heath
@arctic adder 👋
somber heath
Or toe may shuns.
somber heath
What r the things you made
I made a prototype chat client/bot as my first big project. I made a thing for playing chess on the platform, too. Then the platform it was for died.
After that, I got into making pretty pictures. People seem to like them.
I haven't done a lot since.
severe cobalt
Ohh graphics design ?
somber heath
@dense path Yes.
candid spire
Hello 👋
somber heath
Ohh graphics design ?
Broadly.
severe cobalt
Do you even earn ?
somber heath
Do you even earn ?
severe cobalt
Ok
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
sorry guys i forgot to turn off my mic
somber heath
@astral comet 👋
simple geyser
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correa_(plant)
i'm from brazil 👊
somber heath
i'm from brazil 👊
I'm not.
fast jolt
hii
vocal basin
@wind raptor currently actively avoiding police inspection
my existence
(second monitor, since it's easier to spot from the outside, is turned off)
@wind raptor regular thing
just don't open the door and pretend you're not there
neighbour warned us
usually not thorough, mostly just asking questions
but
would rather be safe from that too
name, age, occupation, legal place of residence (may differ), whether there are any people living with mental disabilities, whether you own any drones, etc.
kind of
the goal for me is not to show up on either of two apartments' lists
in any case safer this way given I'm very openly anti-regime
@wind raptor in the latest presidential election, results of the least regime-aligned candidate had to be artificially inflated
quite unusual
all "opposition" candidates needed to look as if they have the same results
so two systematic ones' results were decreased and third's were increased
also to implicate the candidate in the corruption
large part of those downloads are crawlers
@wind raptor thousands?
on crates.io you get something like 500 per version eventually
vocal basin
https://blog.rust-lang.org/2025/09/24/crates.io-malicious-crates-fasterlog-and-a...
would be interesting to see the stats on monetary impact
npm hack had some, like, negligible amount
is a binary tree with parent pointers a triply linked list
lavish rover
probably more of a graph since you have cycles between parents and children
wind raptor
vocal basin
@peak depot
-- why do you have such big eyes?
-- grandchild, we're in an anime
woeful blaze
Is it your fluffy kitten
wind raptor
Yes
woeful blaze
vocal basin
@wind raptor Oracle
Oracle would ask
but for different reasons
they want to govern others' data
.onion is HTTP-only
wrong question
can't help with it
wind raptor
back in 10
woeful blaze
I can't wait to get networking in the game
whole bear
Guys what does it mean
'You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks'?
I was in voice for more than 2 hours
candid spire
Guys what does it mean
'You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks'...
It means you should be more active
In the server
Like for 90 minutes a week
wary jacinth
num1 = 2
num2 = 4
if operator == "+":
result = num1 + num2
elif operator == "-":
result = num1 - num2
elif operator == "*":
result = num1 * num2
elif operator == "/":
if num2 != 0:
result = num1 / num2
elif num1 != 0:
result = num1 / num2
else:
result = "Error! Division by zero."
print(result)```oops
vocal basin
I was in voice for more than 2 hours
(ignore what bigfootcancode said)
those are text activity blocks not VC presence
wind raptor
!cpban 454688037083938816
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @lusty saffron until <t:1759539825:f> (4 days).
vocal basin
it's not targeted yet so shouldn't be bothered for the next several months
tbf it's really easy to tell them apart from just random people by how assertively they use the doorbell
hold it for a long time
I did not sleep twice yesterday, so no
(I often do sleep twice a day)
yes
or two 10 hour
I have had times before when I was sleeping 20~22h a day for, like, a week
@wind raptor containerised?
(not VM)
resource collocation
in case of cloud
vocal basin
resource collocation
across several clients
wind raptor
vocal basin
green
https://oxide.computer/-coloured
@somber heath what about Codeberg
and GitLab
when those
@wind raptor GitHub has tools to bypass restrictions
that's why
regardless of what they say
(the actual real reason why it's getting banned anywhere)
@somber heath at least mirroring Git stuff is somewhat doable
I've had to deal with it before
not [only] for restrictions reasons
time to resurrect cypherpunk movement
I'm gradually resurrecting the E2EE chat project that I used to work on
for the past ~5 years
should be alive somewhere next year probably?
only concerned about the API/data model for now
I kind of want to make the server part of it largely irrelevant
@somber heath works until it's banned everywhere
banning VPNs is only possible through allowlist-based internet
i.e. not internet
Russia is planning that
fight between good and neutrality
@obsidian dragon Tor isn't peer-to-peer
peer-to-peer is a lie if you do TCP or UDP
those protocols are incapable of peer-to-peer
UDP can pretend to be peer-to-peer-ish
as in both sides are servers
at least there are some good news from recently
RT's chief editor's husband is finally dead
hooray
deserved to die, but, surprisingly, wasn't killed
@somber heath police are clearly already selling it
that's just a known fact
it happens everywhere
whenever any information gets there
vocal basin
RT's chief editor's husband is finally dead
(one of the big warmongers)
wind raptor
I'm going to head to bed. I don't think segfault is coming. Cheers all!
vocal basin
@obsidian dragon are not will
yes
good thing Discord isn't regulated here
just banned altogether
@somber heath video doesn't leave, but per-frame screenshots do
"technically true"
the absolute fucking joke was the car data situation
wait let me find the exact wording
vocal basin
the absolute fucking joke was the car data situation
your car is a rolling network of data
WHY
no no no
all cars
@somber heath that's the argument lobbyist use to prevent repair laws happening
tulip plover
their is no free apps, if it's free it's taking your data
vocal basin
their is no free apps, if it's free it's taking your data
no if
it's taking your data
always
even when paid
tulip plover
even when paid
ye
vocal basin
even more so when paid
tulip plover
even more so when paid
even more?
vocal basin
yes, you provide them with financial information
and purchase habits
and they want to get more of your information
because they want you to pay more
tulip plover
because they want you to pay more
of ye
vocal basin
remember: companies won't treat you better because you paid them
companies will treat you worse because they think you're dumb enough to pay again
@somber heath this reminded of this exchange
@somber heath the last sentence is quite great
incidentally, messages are from the author of https://marabos.nl/atomics/
survival of the chargedest
sharing battery?
communism?
instructions unclear, both ends started charging the cable itself
I have a Mini-ITX board which can act as either end of USB-C
either powered or powering
oh I suddenly have a terrible idea
can I change how it's powered on the fly
that is an expensive experiment sounds like
there are
like
four options of how to power it
- ATX
- USB-C
- power hole (idk how to call it, just default round connector)
- PoE
vocal basin
- ATX
- USB-C
- power hole (idk how to call it, just default round connector)
- ...
power hole
@rugged root while you're away, I'm carrying the role of not remembering the proper names of things
@tulip plover not currently
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
nocturne raft
!e
fname = input("Enter file name:")
try:
fhand = fname.open()
print(fhand)
except:
print("This File name does not exist:",fname)
quit()
!d open
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!d with
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
Added in version 3.4.
Source code: Lib/pathlib/
This module offers classes representing filesystem paths with semantics appropriate for different operating systems. Path classes are divided between pure paths, which provide purely computational operations without I/O, and concrete paths, which inherit from pure paths but also provide I/O operations.
...
somber heath
try:
...
except foo:
...```
```py
try:
...
except (foo, bar):
...```
```py
try:
...
except foo:
...
except bar:
...```
```py
try:
...
except foo:
...
except (bar, baz):
...```try, except, else, finally
nocturne raft
hi @shrewd imp
shrewd imp
hi
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@minor basalt 👋
nocturne raft
hi @wise path
wise path
hi <@788347436279791673>
Hi
wise cargoBOT
nocturne raft
What about you? @shrewd imp
wise cargoBOT
shrewd imp
i should send over 25 mssg
shrewd imp
can i send it now?
nocturne raft
So just talk here lol. and I will answer
shrewd imp
i am begiiner for that i need talk to u in voice
shrewd imp
<@1403029826671214733>
i have staeted like yeasterday lol
nocturne raft
I am also a begginer. I started programming about a month ago
I am taking an online course.
nocturne raft
I am taking in coursera.
nocturne raft
Is good because you get assignments. but that is about it.
and is like a path, not random YT videos.
shrewd imp
there aare manyy videos there
shrewd imp
still voice doesn t work
shrewd imp
i need specific advices for a begginner in progrraming
nocturne raft
shrewd imp
What other things are you missing? <@1403029826671214733>
yeaah that's true i will wait for more 3 days
is there other discord grp wich are very helpfuul for python beginner ? wher ppl are chating like u ?
nocturne raft
I tried other ones but they are basically dead. This is the most active I've found.
But what have you learn so far?
shrewd imp
i v learned only strings , integers, floats , Boolean, if else, type casting
what about u?
nocturne raft
So far the same.
now I am learning about opening and reading external files and having an output out of it.
And if soemthing dosen't work. To prompt the user, as opposed to giving a traceback error.
so the Try and except blocks.
shrewd imp
is there other sites wich are helpfull ?
nocturne raft
I would have to get back to you on that @shrewd imp
shrewd imp
are a graphic designer?
haughty pier
@shrewd imp did you check out this site? docs.python.org/tutorial
nocturne raft
@shrewd imp I know how to use Photoshop, Premiere and After Effects.
nocturne raft
Oh you can run Code here by the way
shrewd imp
wich basic i should learn especiaaly?
nocturne raft
e!
print("hello world")
and more suggest me another thing to learn like photoshop or smtnh easier?
nocturne raft
!e
print("hello world")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
hello world
print("Hello world")
nocturne raft
!e
largest = None
smallest = None
while True:
snum = input("Enter a number: ")
if snum == "done":
break
try:
fnum = float(snum)
except:
print("Invalid input")
continue
if largest is None:
largest = fnum
elif fnum > largest:
largest = fnum
if smallest is None:
smallest = fnum
elif fnum < smallest:
smallest = fnum
# print(fnum)
print("Maximum is",int(largest))
print("Minimum is",int(smallest))
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Enter a number: Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m4[0m, in [35m<module>[0m
003 | snum = input("Enter a number: ")
004 | [1;35mEOFError[0m: [35mEOF when reading a line[0m
i dont have also acces to this ?
wise cargoBOT
shrewd imp
!e
wise cargoBOT
shrewd imp
!e
wise cargoBOT
nocturne raft
!e
print("this is a test!")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
this is a test!
!e
start, stop, step = 0, 3, 1
for count, index in enumerate(range(start, stop, step), start=1):
print(f'{index=}, {count=}')
print(f'we iterated {count} times')
Python is indexed on 0 - but counting starts at 1.
wise cargoBOT
!e
```python
start, stop, step = 0, 3, 1
for count, index in enumerate(range(sta...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | index=0, count=1
002 | index=1, count=2
003 | index=2, count=3
004 | we iterated 3 times
!e '''py print("Hello world")
wise cargoBOT
!e ...
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m
002 | [1;31m'[0m''py print("Hello world")
003 | [1;31m^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35munterminated triple-quoted string literal (detected at line 1)[0m
still dont get it
nocturne raft
Did you close it? @shrewd imp
you have to use the back ticks to close the code on discord
haughty pier
!e
start, stop, step = 1, 5, 1
for index, count in enumerate(range(start, stop, step)):
print(f'{index=}, {count=}')
print(f'we iterated {count} times')
Python is indexed on 0 - but counting starts at 1.
wise cargoBOT
!e
```python
start, stop, step = 1, 5, 1
for index, count in enumerate(range(sta...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | index=0, count=1
002 | index=1, count=2
003 | index=2, count=3
004 | index=3, count=4
005 | we iterated 4 times
!e
hrs = 45
rph = 10.50
h = float(hrs)
r = float(rph)
xt = h-40
otr = 1.5
if h <= 40 :
print(h*r)
if h > 40 :
h = 40
print(r*otr*xt + (h*r))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
498.75
@shrewd imp You got it?
shrewd imp
no still
nocturne raft
@shrewd imp I will see you around bro. You can speak in 3 days.
cobalt pasture
hi
good
thanks
im making a roblox luau hub
i lowk prefer lua
im making a script
ya
exploit
chris check dms so i can send u a screenshot lol
cant wait for gta 6 to come out
wind raptor
cant wait for gta 6 to come out
Do you make mods for gta?
cobalt pasture
nah, i just wanna play it lol
it looks really good
did you just sayu
bad reviews of six seven
😭
okay good i thought that there was a game called 67 on steam i was about to flip
💔
craggy vale
Do you make mods for gta?
I make
wind raptor
Hi @gray mantle 👋
wind raptor
I've never heard of people eating gourds, pumpkins, squash, and the like without cooking them.
wind raptor
al dente is not a good cook for that, no
candid spire
A quick search told me eating bitter gourd is bad for diabetic patients as it decreases sugar level quickly
And likely digestion issues are higher
vocal basin
al dente is not a good cook for that, no
dry jasper
@misty bough 👋
wind raptor
Wait, is that burnt to all hell?
vocal basin
Wait, is that burnt to all hell?
yes, that's the point
vocal basin
TIL his other part of the name actually does start with Al
wind raptor
til also
somber heath
@onyx wave 👋
south nebula
hello
somber heath
@tawny adder 👋
tawny adder
Hello
wind raptor
Hey @slender sierra 👋
somber heath
@ashen garnet 👋
grave mist
<@822907439833153607> 👋
Hallo
timid quartz
i need help in school
wind raptor
Depends, not really the kind of thing I like to help with in the Python server
What kind of English work?
wind raptor
I assumed it was school English
timid quartz
can i show u
wind raptor
Nothing is preventing you from sharing a screenshot
timid quartz
wind raptor
Are you going to share any context for this?
timid quartz
Are you going to share any context for this?
its about a story and i gotta do a slide show
wind raptor
Then yes, I recommend doing the slideshow.
wind raptor
No, it's not coding related
timid quartz
aw
wind raptor
You haven't explained what you needed help with at all, so I can't really do much and I don't feel like I should have to be the one to come up with all the questions that it would take to get you to tell me. So good luck.
timid quartz
oh yea chris i got a girlfriend
vocal basin
ohno not that story
timid quartz
ohno not that story
?
slender sierra
Hey <@949458366374236190> 👋
hi😊
dry jasper
dry jasper
wind raptor
Hey, sorry, gotta head out and do some chores. Be back on after. Cheers
full dagger
Alphacool 1u server case
stark crow
Copyright (c) 2016, 2021, Oracle and/or its affiliates.
Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its affiliates.
Other names may be trademarks of their respective owners.
Type '\help' or '?' for help; '\quit' to exit.
mysql-py> ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED WITH mysql_native_password BY 'YourNewSecurePassword';
File "<string>", line 1
ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED WITH mysql_native_password BY 'YourNewSecurePassword';
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
mysql-py> ALTER USER 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED WITH mysql_native_password BY 'YourNewSecurePassword';
dry jasper
Sudo mysql -u root
stark crow
Type '\help' or '?' for help; '\quit' to exit.
mysql-py> Sudo mysql -u root
File "<string>", line 1
Sudo mysql -u root
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
muted silo
https://github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine
is it this one ??
stark crow
Enter password:
ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
timid quartz
up
wise loom
counting up ⬆️
scarlet halo
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> buddy i need some help
oh great, I also need tons of help
whole bear
@unreal berry DO YOU KNOW how can i connect my go daddy domain to clour flare?
whole bear
oh great, I also need tons of help
lol
x
x
haha
this guy sounds stupiddd!!!
hahahahaha
@unreal berry hgahahhahaahha
hahahahah
hhahaha
this shit is actually funnnnyyy
unreal berry
@long dragon
Say this word Internal Pointer Variable
whole bear
internal pointer varible
whole bear
hahhaha
loll
lolll
lolll
bruhhhhhhh
hsahhahahaha
thisssss shit is actually funnnnyyyy
eeendiiiaaa
wise loom
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Gecco-Sekiro-Shinobi-Prosthetic-021-800x450.jpg
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Gecco-Sekiro-Shinobi-Prosthetic-005.jpg
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Gecco-Sekiro-Shinobi-Prosthetic-023.jpg
wise loom
whole bear
@unreal berry do you know how to connect my go daddy domain to cloud flare?
unreal berry
<@449086978995257354> do you know how to connect my go daddy domain to cloud fla...
You can youtube it and for configurations ask Gemini/chatGPT
whole bear
yes but i am not getting this shyytt!!
unreal berry
If you wanna deploy it on github will be easier config
whole bear
You can youtube it and for configurations ask Gemini/chatGPT
i tried that but didnt worked
unreal berry
i tried that but didnt worked
HOW DO U EVEN FAIL?
still carbon
whole bear
blood race
its a blood race
@unreal berry dont teach him he will be the next alex from microsoft
unreal berry
<@449086978995257354> dont teach him he will be the next alex from microsoft
he will do it like IAM STEVE
wise loom
whole bear
he will do it like *IAM STEVE*
😂
@still carbon matrishwah
@still carbon fire
its a name
matrishvan
@still carbon its a word from rigveda its a holy name
vocal basin
https://www.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Gecco-Sekiro-Shinobi-Prostheti...
good game
whole bear
haha
vocal basin
I have way too many other games to play, so still haven't finished that one
whole bear
steve from microsoft
vocal basin
steve from microsoft
developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers developers
whole bear
developers developers developers developers developers developers developers dev...
saar i am steve from microsoft trust me sarr....
whole bear
in voice verification its saying You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks. @still carbon
wise loom
vocal basin
i.e. don't spam
is Slovania a hybrid of Slovenia and Slovakia?
"my favourite Viking country: Hungary"
@still carbon I heard Taiwan too
"-1'000 social credit"
still carbon
vocal basin
10.62%
hmm
I thought it was slightly more
this would be so funny for me to say "my WebSocket multicast is better than your WebSocket multicast"
@mild quartz 👋
-- very stressful field, how do I put this?
-- "bubble"
whole bear
yooooo
nocturne raft
@full dagger Which server Case is this?
mild quartz
see you @wind raptor good to see you
amber raptor
@mild quartz I think overall LLMs are bad for coding. That being said, it's not going away because 🤑 reasons.
My concerns are
A: Code quality does not improve because it's BAD right now (though it works....)
B: I think it's very bubbley with so much hype around this topic and reminds me of Blockchain/Crypto (Scams are much less in LLM space)
C: I'm not sure finances will make sense. If coding LLMs cost 4000/month per agent to run, that makes their value proposition much worse. We don't know whole value here since big name companies are not being 100% transparent.
I guess we will see who is right.
mild quartz
I disagree with (A) but do admit they may not be great at devops stuff
(B) Difference is that there is real economic value being generated
(C) This is definitely a real concern
vocal basin
I see direct damage done to coding skills of people around me and that's the most depressing part, since, unlike AI bros, I have empathy
it's like talking to someone whose brain gets devoured by dementia, but this time it's technology-induced, this is not fun
pure oyster
I am using LLMs to cope with code without any documentation or completely new concepts out of my comfort zone. But never to write stuff.
vocal basin
✅ AI is very good at creating misdocumented code
vocal basin
I am using LLMs to cope with code without any documentation or completely new co...
one of the problems is those concepts might be new to LLMs too
so they misinform you
even if it's in the training data
for example,
correct answer to that question: there is no type casting in Python
with, optionally, a clarification "did you mean conversion?"
another incorrect answer
vocal basin
another incorrect answer
correct answer: don't
pure oyster
Good point. I guess that's why RAGs are a step closer to something you can trust. Or just verify through Google lol
vocal basin
another incorrect answer
- escaping is not sanitisation
- query parameters are not sanitisation
- sanitisation is bad approach (because alters data)
- stop interpolating SQL queries
- validate data, don't alter it
(it does mention points 4 and 5 later on, but it must be in the first paragraph not at the end)
"let's hope I don't get a heart attack from reading this"
okay, it got it right mostly
just very poorly structured
vocal basin
okay, it got it right mostly
(I'm not interested in checking the details, just looking at the outline)
vocal basin
just very poorly structured
like a very basic mistake
do be aware that it's the fast free LLM they offer not proper ones
but illustrates the point
vocal basin
like a very basic mistake
analogy:
- Animals (including Dogs)
- Cats
- Dogs
- Elephants
instead of
- Animals
- Cats
- Dogs
- Elephants
pure oyster
Im surprised, thanks for testing it. In general, these models cannot say "that they don't know something" or detect out-of-distribution stuff
vocal basin
I've seen LLMs do way worse
mild quartz
the free models are way way worse than the paid ones
vocal basin
I recently gave it a task to which a human would normally just respond "what?"
vocal basin
the free models are way way worse than the paid ones
yeah
mild quartz
give anthropic $20 and try sonnet 4.5
vocal basin
I won't give them any money
pure oyster
It makes me sceptical when I ask a design philosophy question because it's not easily verifiable through a RAG or google search
vocal basin
I recently gave it a task to which a human would normally just respond "what?"
and I kind of hoped for the LLM to respond similarly
mild quartz
new models are much better at refusals
vocal basin
asking for clarifying questions rather than hallucinating
mild quartz
older models are like eager beavers that will hallucinate an answer
vocal basin
new models are much better at refusals
intentionally trained that way?
vocal basin
I believe LLMs can get into the right direction
but currently is soooo cancerous and just wrong
need to fix it quick
vocal basin
give anthropic $20 and try sonnet 4.5
very descriptive error code lol
pure oyster
need to fix it quick
I don't know. People that believe hallucinations should probably improve their own skills first, before using LLMs
vocal basin
I don't know. People that believe hallucinations should probably improve their o...
educating people is part of that fix
pure oyster
Agreed.
I already see in my work that the level of discussions is lowering. I feel this has to do with it. Or maybe not lol.
vocal basin
I recently gave it a task to which a human would normally just respond "what?"
was asking to reimplement https://docs.rs/ruchei/0.1.0/src/ruchei/multicast/bufferless.rs.html
(based on the general description of what's expected of it)
pure oyster
Reimplement in what way
vocal basin
I gave it approximately this description:
in Rust, implement a
Stream+Sinkwhich combines severalStream+Sinks into one, such that sending a message through it sends it to each underlying connection
(was worded differently, but just a general idea)
I don't remember what I prompted exactly
but
it got that part right
it was only the implementation that was totally broken
vocal basin
I don't remember what I prompted exactly
I might've been asking it to the replay one not bufferless
since, from what I remember, it was way too broken
okay this is new
pure oyster
Sick.
vocal basin
okay this is new
importing the same type twice
wise loom
anyone awake?
ashen garnet
anyone awake?
Yeah
wind raptor
!cpban 896217579650166784
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @misty lynx until <t:1759669441:f> (4 days).
craggy vale
this and this @wind raptor
wind raptor
!paste
wise cargoBOT
wind raptor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjjN9q2ym6s @craggy vale
craggy vale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjjN9q2ym6s <@1186943801558831168>
thanks
peak depot
@wind raptor @midnight birch 👋
midnight birch
<@373121697957543946> <@1250132945772085273> 👋
Hello, World!
peak depot
I was sick for couple of days but starting to feel better
midnight birch
I was sick for couple of days but starting to feel better
I'm happy you're feeling better.
vocal basin
@wind raptor not really the point
just don't connect your raspberry pi to the internet and you have all the security
vocal basin
@wind raptor on the other hand: they don't do further damage
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> on the other hand: they don't do further damage
unfortunately ICE isn't included in the shutdown
vocal basin
i have a question
what question?
wispy harbor
why cant i speak
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
wispy harbor
oh ok
amber raptor
unfortunately ICE isn't included in the shutdown
No law enforcement is
wise cargoBOT
wind raptor
Just making sure 😅
vocal basin
Just making sure 😅
!voice
wind raptor
f
vocal basin
you've been saved by the time delay
whole bear
Go back to work
vocal basin
💥
whole bear
Go back to work
There is a reason why we say go back to your work
Because if you ain't working you are yapping
vocal basin
@amber raptor I'm likely to end up in a similar situation of reinventing k8s but at least there's an excuse: embedded
whole bear
Yapping is exclusive to filthy rich or filthy poor
Average dudes are not allowed to be yapper 😎
vocal basin
(and, like, see the previous remark about needing a CTO who can actually drive that to completion, and we have that)
yeah, built-in DNS is great
whole bear
(and, like, see the previous remark about needing a CTO who can actually drive t...
Nah we need CFO
Modern day slavery
amber raptor
@wind raptor version: '3' networks: frontend: driver: bridge services: dev: image: "mcr.microsoft.com/devcontainers/python:1-3.12-bullseye" restart: always volumes: - ../..:/workspaces:cached networks: - frontend beanstalkd: image: ghcr.io/beanstalkd/beanstalkd:latest platform: linux/amd64 restart: always networks: - frontend ports: - '11300:11300' aurora: image: aurora:latest restart: always networks: - frontend ports: - '3000:3000'
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> ```version: '3'
networks:
frontend:
driver: bridge
...
docker complains about version being deprecated iirc
whole bear
<@373121697957543946> ```version: '3'
networks:
frontend:
driver: bridge
...
Good 😊💯
Less yap more code
Cycle of life
amber raptor
docker complains about `version` being deprecated iirc
whole bear
wake up > brunch > work > dinner> sleep
until you ide aka die
work harder to make me richer 😎 - Founder and share holder
midnight birch
somber heath
@wide imp What you see as ease is the end result of a lot of work.
wide imp
i feel you
whole bear
if you need it to only expose locally, `127.0.0.1:3000:3000`
Or borther not to run locally
whole bear
i feel you
You can no longer
Ide aka die
A job which is fun and rewarding is 🚢 pilot
Travel around the world and eat good
vocal basin
drone train
wind raptor
!stream 645203135090130944 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @open venture can now stream until <t:1759329033:f>.
open venture
!stream 645203135090130944 30M
thanks
vocal basin
@rugged root PHP latest or PHP 5?
WP™injection
@rugged root weren't some providers disabling them?
how dare you pay any WP-related money to anyone other than Matt
somber heath
@wide imp Talking is fine.
@wide imp Paint a picture that describes in brief your Python knowledge so far.
Try except?
modest shale
yo @somber heath u were dissapared out of now wheere and finaly here
vocal basin
afaik I use try-finally more often than try-except
somber heath
yo <@317279909112446976> u were dissapared out of now wheere and finaly here
Come again?
vocal basin
(random note)
somber heath
Parentheses.
vocal basin
quick membership check
if there are at least two items, in set_ is faster than in list_
you can't index sets
@wind raptor no???
in
you can only in, for _ in
with relation to elements
@wind raptor it's very unordered
numbers just happen to have hash be equal to themselves
!e
print({-3, -2, -1, 0, 1})
print({1, 0, -1, -2, -3})
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {0, 1, -1, -3, -2}
002 | {0, 1, -1, -3, -2}
They can appear to have an order, but consider it as unreliable and imagine it doesn't exist.
You can for loop over a set and get out each thing exactly once.
vocal basin
!e
print({-2, -1})
print({-1, -2})
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {-2, -1}
002 | {-1, -2}
why is same-order
!e
print({-3, -2, -1, 0, 1})
print({-3, -1, -2, 0, 1})
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | {0, 1, -1, -3, -2}
002 | {0, 1, -1, -3, -2}
@wide imp Try not to think of lists as containing anything other than shortcuts to objects. References. Because...
!e py a = [] b = [a, a, a] print(b) a.append(123) print(b)
vocal basin
<@313362334246633472> Try not to think of lists as containing anything other tha...
Python doesn't really have a notion of ownership, nearly everything is references
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
a = []
b = [a, a, a]
print(b)
a.append(123)
print(b)```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [[], [], []]
002 | [[123], [123], [123]]
It's tempting to imagine that lists contain the objects themselves.
vocal basin
@wind raptor what's your opinion on using lists instead of tuples for __all__ exports?
open venture
jheezzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
vocal basin
even though it's generally immutable
vocal basin
finished this katas
which level?
open venture
8 lmao
vocal basin
or whatever it's called
