@lavish gazelle not really, islander have dark complexity not because they have African routes, but because they adapt to the environment and most likely native Americans
#voice-chat-text-0
whole bear
Native Americans have dark complexity as well
@tulip plover Your voice reminds me of a fella named procode_kb
tulip plover
<@859941274425753610> Your voice reminds me of a fella named procode_kb
whos that
lavish gazelle
@tulip plover https://www.arenabreakoutinfinite.com/en/
whole bear
It's banned
@lavish gazelle One Piece is intentionally lengthy
I mean it is intentionally in a bad way!
I've watched all of the episodes and manga chapters @lavish gazelle
Many chapters have repeated the same trash dialogue and information word to word
The worst part of One Piece English is that it has so many riddles and Easter which are lost in translation @lavish gazelle
Live action was bad
tulip plover
one pace is so much faster pace then one piece
whole bear
one pace is so much faster pace then one piece
Imagine a guy milked the whole community for 25+ years and earned well over tens of millions
Oda is a true business man
tulip plover
bluelock
whole bear
bluelock
Good animations
I'll try it!
Which is the best animated anime @tulip plover ?
No I have not!
I mean I will watch it
I think demon slayer is the best animated anime
@tulip plover How about Monster Anime?
It has one of the best story
Bye @tulip plover
@lavish rover where do you live?
lavish rover
canada
whole bear
π
somber heath
@spare walrus π
whole bear
Not all have programming in high school
whole bear
Not all have programming in high school
Me English is bad!
Not all schools have programming as subject
lavish rover
sure i just said most parts of the world do
somber heath
@astral lion π
whole bear
Unfortunately I didn't have the programming as subject
somber heath
@zenith lintel π
whole bear
@somber heath You should be a mod in Python Discord, you are always helping out fellow members, you're good!
Sign of who @lavish gazelle ?
somber heath
!zen
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@echo wagon π
whole bear
I would avoid windows for laptops at the price range of the above 900$
obsidian root
ssd is swapable
whole bear
ssd is swapable
Doesn't matter, overall it is a bad deal
Be computer xor desktop
Not both!
obsidian root
its not that bad of a deal. System76 is priced like a macbook around the 1000-2000 mark. Dell discount for ubuntu is less than a 100
whole bear
Windows laptop is everything but laptop
obsidian root
framework 12 2 in 1 isn't that great
somber heath
whole bear
The laptop should be portable and last long on the battery, performance should not be compromised on battery usage.
Unfortunately windows perform worse on battery
obsidian root
linux typically is worse than windows on battery
honestly, I fined it amazing that non arm laptops and tablets last so long on battery
whole bear
linux typically is worse than windows *on battery*
Open source vs Closed source
Fair comparison
obsidian root
mroe like lack of investment to get the os to be efficient on the laptop
whole bear
Compare Closed Source to Closed Source
obsidian root
The power draw of the system vs the battery capacity is crazy
It is exemplified by the msi titan line of laptops
those things last 2 hours or so on battery saver
You can get the docs for optimization guidelines
its not just useful for os devs but also any performance based software
whole bear
The power draw of the system vs the battery capacity is crazy
Don't you think it is a false advertisement?
To rob the user in the name of a laptop, selling the performance number of laptops on charging (desktop)
obsidian root
They just straight up bought out and subsidized everything to gain a monopoly back in the 90s
obsidian root
Don't you think it is a false advertisement?
To rob the user in the name of a l...
no. Those powerful laptops are basically portable desktops that occasionally can be on battery. And thats what people buy them for. The top of the line go from 4k to 6k usd. And pretty sure people buy them for that purpose
whole bear
I'm not Apple π user or embrace it over windows.
But when it comes to laptops they do sell laptops and windows sell desktop as laptop
obsidian root
It doesn't really make sense from the money side at least to me. I would need to do a bit of digging, but I dont think windows makes much money these days. Its the servers and services these days
whole bear
It doesn't really make sense from the money side at least to me. I would need to...
It makes plenty of money
One of the most profitable companies on the planet
obsidian root
One of the most profitable companies on the planet
I dont believe most of it comes from windows licenses
whole bear
no. Those powerful laptops are basically portable desktops that occasionally can...
Unfortunately those who buy them will likely not use it on battery π
somber heath
@inner bison π
inner bison
<@1168594506648670208> π
Hi
obsidian root
Unfortunately those who buy them will likely not use it on battery π
im pretty sure they wont. There are plenty of laptops with better battery life. If they would use them for battery, they will probably return it
whole bear
im pretty sure they wont. There are plenty of laptops with better battery life. ...
I fumble
I meant, likely not use on battery
@lavish gazelle I like him π
He is humble on screen, is he really as humble as he appears on camera?
obsidian root
More personal computing (windows oem and devices / xbox content and services / search news and advertising) was 13.451 billion usd 2025 Q4. Total revenue is 76.441 billion usd. 17.5% of the revenue. Im betting xbox content and services make up a significant chunk of that.
It would probably hurt if that part were to disappear. But Microsoft would chug on
somber heath
whole bear
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Postlethwaite
Uh he was in Jurassic park?
He got quite recognizable face
I wish I could get a chance to meet famous personalities one day
!stop
Yep it sucks
whole bear
https://tenor.com/view/bubble-bubble-boy-jeremy-cohen-jerm-cohen-brooklyn-gif-17...
How can we breathe?
Ain't it exhausting?
whole bear
what is going on in nepal
It is in civil war
r u Nepalese @obsidian root ?
Life itself is a torcher!
obsidian root
nah, I was just searching for protests and it seemed nepal was ablaze. Apparently also in paris
and some other places
Then I decided to take a step back and forget out it
anyone like candles?
I believed I have learned to love the smell of candles
whole bear
nah, I was just searching for protests and it seemed nepal was ablaze. Apparentl...
I hope they can find a middle ground!π
Protest is normal but casualty is generational!
obsidian root
They are tryin to back door and monitor all communication in the EU
obsidian root
The government could do it by force identity by device, device is validated with a central government service, and between the two ensure who is using the device for what purpose
Have an on chip device that does facial recognize to unlock the device. Have the device and user authenticate at a government officer. and then the entire system could be secure... governemnt wouldnt need any biometrics
whole bear
China 2.0
obsidian root
didn't realize australia was so close to china
whole bear
didn't realize australia was so close to china
It has always been
24th province of China
obsidian root
honestly, the chain of validation from the device might a be solution for this to be secure without giving up biometrics
never thought about this solution
whole bear
Alright, I'm heading out.
It was fun having a discussion π.
low cloak
<@893740315641520168> π
hi π
how are you @somber heath
oh
complicated
how about some noodles π
and some hot π« as well?
why your voice seems like you have a sour throat? @somber heath
@obsidian dragon hello π
oh sad i also have cough
but its different story how i got
yeah its terrible i know my father got same kind of cough
but unfortunately he couldn't make it
have you taken some syrup?
what about using a vacuum cleaner to suck out the mucus? π€§
@obsidian dragon are you a femboy?
his pfp
amd also this
@obsidian dragon yeah definitely frogs πΈ are good
@obsidian dragon can you say UwU for me ? π₯Ί
tbh it was terrible
@paper wolf hello π
stop it its terrible
i asked for one
paper wolf
what the heck u guys doing...
low cloak
what the heck u guys doing...
saying UwU and talking about Femboys
paper wolf
saying UwU and talking about Femboys
do you prefer femboy.....
somber heath
@woeful shuttle π
paper wolf
good thing lol
woeful shuttle
my celling fan just fell on me
hahaahhaaha
paper wolf
what a interesting incident
low cloak
no they dont fell on my head tho
paper wolf
ouch
low cloak
no i didn't got an injury i ran asap i saw the fan coming down
woeful shuttle
no i didn't got an injury i ran asap i saw the fan coming down
run
low cloak
the wires held the fan for some time just giving me enough time
obsidian dragon
@low cloak check my profile
woeful shuttle
paper wolf
ohh its alive...
low cloak
actually i was doing some modification shit on the fan last day
low cloak
maybe thaats why it fell off
yeah i made it 3 times faster
woeful shuttle
low cloak
<@893740315641520168> check my profile
yeah its good now
paper wolf
our fan here is just pure copper wire on a iron core with large ammount of small magnets
somber heath
@hard perch π
low cloak
@hard perch π
paper wolf
lol
low cloak
our fan here is just pure copper wire on a iron core with large ammount of small...
oh well our fans here don't contain any permanent magnets just all electromagnets
hard perch
Pixel art? What is that.
paper wolf
pls dont spam memes thats out of context
hard perch
Isn't all art online pixel art?
paper wolf
@woeful shuttle
woeful shuttle
<@474962454829596707>
?
low cloak
<@474962454829596707>
hey are you fox π¦
hard perch
π
low cloak
i was a fox before
you suck ?
hard perch
Γr du svensk?
woeful shuttle
<@474962454829596707>
I don't understand what you say. I can understand you through the translation.
hard perch
Can you ask spellis if he is swedish.
hard perch
I knew it.
I guessed it based off his accent.
I recognize one.
My accent is way more swedish sounding though.
Man mΓ€rker lite.
Inte mycket dock
paper wolf
lol
low cloak
i just suck
well for me you're just cute
paper wolf
i wanred them
low cloak
@whole bear another femboy!?!?
hard perch
How do I unmute myself? The button doesn't work.
scarlet halo
paper wolf
!voice
wise cargoBOT
hard perch
It says I don't have permission
OH
π
Why are you reacting to my message with a cactus emoji?
hard perch
Meanie.
paper wolf
lol
scarlet halo
low cloak
I AM NOT A CACTUS
i am
low cloak
https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-h...
we got a new language before gta 6 πͺΎ
hard perch
we got a new language before gta 6 πͺΎ
The right language.
low cloak
The right language.
yeah yeah π
low cloak
The right language.
the positive language
scarlet halo
Rule 3
No noisy unicode characters (for example zΝ‘Μ―Μ―aΜ§ΝΜΊlΜ‘ΝΜ«gΜΉΜ²oΜ‘ΜΌΜ) or rapidly flashing avatars.
hard perch
Sleep tight and don't let the monster bite.
low cloak
Sleep tight and don't let the monster bite.
what π§
low cloak
.
paper wolf
i prefer skibidi toilet
i wait forever for that responce
low cloak
i wait forever for that responce
oh sorry π i saw it just now
@still herald hello π
still herald
<@1127458312938598460> hello π
Hi
wise loom
@paper wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4Bbejwrwg
notice the design is the same, every year, same design, i love that
2014? same design
2025? same design
2030? same design
i just hope they keep the entire chassis and as much of the mechanical components the same(really they don't need to change at all) over all models
this will allow you to swap, mix'n'match things from different models with ease
these things will be on the market way past their release date possibly 2 decades worth of lifespan
vocal basin
now works
though even with a VPN it was stuck in a "checking route" state longer than usual
somber heath
@grave oracle π
vocal basin
fighting consolidating corruption
pearl trout
<@1051166318830833769> π
hello can i ask you about something?
currently idk where to ask it in the channel
owhh im near im from indonesia
its about coding is it okay if i ask it here?
its called turu isokay
import pyautogui <---- so this part on my coding suddently doesnt work
it show no module named pytogui
muted silo
yo
pearl trout
yes
muted silo
hi
pearl trout
if i hve uninstalled it i think this would'nt work right?
vocal basin
it show no module named pytogui
ctrl+shift+p
select interpreter
this is VSCode, right?
pearl trout
this is VSCode, right?
yes
vocal basin
you might have more than one python
vocal basin
ctrl+shift+p
select interpreter
(do this)
muted silo
you might have more than one python
that may be it
pearl trout
ctrl+shift+p
select interpreter
nothing happen
when i ctrl+shift+p
how to do that?
muted silo
in terminal
vocal basin
nothing happen
or click Python thing in the VSCode
vocal basin
when i ctrl+shift+p
VSCode has a menu like this
pearl trout
this?
pearl trout
VSCode has a menu like this
after that what do i type?
vocal basin
Python: Select Interpreter
pearl trout
im sorry, im really new to coding
muted silo
im sorry, im really new to coding
np we started at that point somewhere
vocal basin
Python: Select Interpreter
then it will show a list
pearl trout
like this ?
vocal basin
like this ?
you're missing > at the start
muted silo
@pearl trout youll only learn from messing up and by getting yelled mate π
this might sound rude but thats the thing
grave oracle
muted silo
like this ?
no use > before python
pearl trout
<@221433621507080192> youll only learn from messing up and by getting yelled ma...
lmao indeed
nothing showup
did i accidently unins my python?
pearl trout
do you have VSCode configured to show UI in English?
its eng
vocal basin
though ig shouldn't matter much
pearl trout
never change it
muted silo
it should show right
hey it is better to go live
may be we can figure something of it
pearl trout
in terminal it show python
vocal basin
in terminal it show python
yeah, you have separate Python installations
pearl trout
hey it is better to go live
may be we can figure something of it
i just join i cant do anything yet
vocal basin
it show no module named pytogui
how are you running your code?
muted silo
in terminal it show python
oh yeah forgot about that
pearl trout
choose the coding terminal and press run
pearl trout
i hve this
vocal basin
@winter plover PRs should be focused, don't add extra stuff to the main point of the PR
hmm
vocal basin
this?
click to the left of {} there
@winter plover @somber heath forking is explicitly allowed in GitHub rules
iirc
if your license forbids forking, it breaks GitHub ToS or something like that
somber heath
@celest gorge π
vocal basin
if your license forbids forking, it breaks GitHub ToS or something like that
winamp ran into that
they're still technically in violation
and you can't turn off PRs
@winter plover someone should really show them that repos can be private
even in organisations
pearl trout
or click Python thing in the VSCode
you mean this {} right?
vocal basin
pearl trout
i like how it make me think twice as much cause im still learning english lmao
vocal basin
click that
pearl trout
click *that*
thanks it work
idk how but it work
thankyou so much
i hve 3 so i just switch it to recomended and it work
vocal basin
(this is the most common VSCode-related issue and fix)
pearl trout
btw guys do you know a good youtube tutorial about python (idk what it called) but it make you move your cursor and something like that
honestly that what i learning from rn lmao
vocal basin
an entire channel about how not to do that: Code Bullet
somber heath
@modern axle π
pearl trout
an entire channel about how *not* to do that: Code Bullet
lmao i was watching him and think i want to move my cursor too
and so i did with ai help ofc
vocal basin
AI is fine-ish as an autocomplete,
but it's bad for writing code and explaining
it's a thing that makes low quality results in a short time at a higher cost
pearl trout
it's a thing that makes low quality results in a short time at a higher cost
thanks for the info i'll prob keep that in mind
vocal basin
there is only one language that, afaik, AI can write reliable code in
but that's only because it needs to be formally proven code
vocal basin
there is only one language that, afaik, AI can write reliable code in
Dafny
programming in that language is a brute-force-able task
there, understanding isn't necessary if the code compiles
LLMs, as they are used today, are completely not okay and a net negative, especially for initial learning purposes
pearl trout
so that's why insteat of understand im more confuse about the code
vocal basin
not necessarily, but likely
pearl trout
rn im learning the basic from youtube called codewithmosh
vocal basin
LLMs are random text generators that are biased to output text similar to humans
@somber heath pair programming but to the max
mob programming
vocal basin
mob programming
also known as:
if you are using AI, more explicitly ask it for keywords and where to look for
treat it like a search engine, since it has absorbed a lot of stuff
=> usual problems with search engines apply
pearl trout
=> usual problems with search engines apply
that's acctually make a lot of sense, you make me open my mind bout something
thanks @vocal basin @somber heath for the help
i'll go now
wise loom
@paper wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyFvaQn-gVE
limber agate
<@1200330195387813903> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyFvaQn-gVE
alot of people still have that because its now so cheap and can run any simple task
wise loom
alot of people still have that because its now so cheap and can run any simple t...
remarkable isn't it?
dry jasper
@wind raptor how went the interview?
tulip plover
hello @whole bear
whole bear
<#764802555427029012>
havent unlocked yet its what im saying xd
cause I joined just like bit ago
im good, Im bored at night here
tulip plover
oh nice
whole bear
you can talk if you want I have audio
I just cant talk but I can hear
ah, no, not much, Im not like very good at it either
I just used sometimes, watched some courses back then
was just trying to learn how to market an app its complicated
everything requires connections or some investment about it
doing an app nowadays not that complicated but getting users into it, much more problematic
yeah social media its free but realistically to have any decent users you need like 10k followers acc on any social
and that takes very long on itself
none at the moment, was just thinking about it
but yeah theres so many apps nowadays for everything
yeah legit
like you look up some random sht like a thermometer app
and theres 40 mfs doing apps for it
xD
pdf woke up at 2 pm and said "ima do a thermometer app in 2025"
lol
not really lately, not much to talk about
my life boring lol
I honestly think
most profitable way in theory would be
just make some random app
and put btc miner in background at 10% CPU usage so they dont realise
but Android Store bans this
yeah the apple stuff is so busy
Im so pissed off at the brand that they sell me some bullsht phone for 1k that does same as 200$ android phone
I dont even wanna touch the brand as developer already
they can go eat sht
xD
sorry I did not understood much what you said mic isnt that good and my english neither, but I understand part of it
yeah legit, people buy it for status
and im tired of the status bllshit
i dont want buy any of that stupid sht
I wanna buy shirts that are 10$ bro
XD
I must leave now have good day
scarlet halo
vocal basin
as it should be
wind raptor
vocal basin
anyone who fails by commenting their code, needs to go and read Unix's source to redeem themselves
/*
* You are not expected to understand this.
*/
I don't comment Code
prime current
"the str() function turns a number into a string"
but can't you turn a number into a string by putting quotation marks around it?
so what's the use of "str()" then?
somber heath
so what's the use of "str()" then?
You have an object. That object has a procedure attached to it that gives you a string when you invoke that procedure. Usually, the string will be a version of the object as a string.
Sometimes, you want numbers as text, instead of numerical values. Sometimes, you want to print an object and not get garble. Sometimes you might want to take a string in a certain encoding and have it be correctly understood as a Python string. There are use cases and they come up, but actually using str is more common when learning than in general practice.
chilly wolf
You can also put a variable in curly backets to invoke it as a string
prime current
You have an object. That object has a procedure attached to it that gives you a ...
What do you mean by object?
somber heath
What do you mean by object?
Python is an object-oriented programming language.
somber heath
You can also put a variable in curly backets to invoke it as a string
!f-strings
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
An object is a data structure with functionality attached to it for interacting safely with that data.
Every object is of a type, a class.
The class governs the creation, data structure and attached functionalities of objects of its type.
A class is like a blueprint, or factory.
The objects created by it are called instances of that class.
Class/blueprint/factory, instances/the things the factory creates.
Both are objects.
Strings are instances of the str class.
Lists are instances of the list class.
Things like 123 are instances of the int class.
Things like 123.0 or .5 are instances of the float class.
Each of these objects have functionality attached to them that do different things, depending on what the object's type is, what class it is of.
@bright hound π
@eternal fable π
ocean gazelle
Can anyone tell me what a system engineer is
somber heath
@lofty tinsel π
ocean gazelle
What should I learn in order to get that role
lament girder
opalmist can guide you i guess
ocean gazelle
@somber heath
tacit crane
obsidian root
@somber heath was it worse than Wormhole X-treme?
lament girder
WAS BROWSING SOME UI
is it related to frontend?
obsidian root
tacit crane
is it related to frontend?
YAH
lament girder
oh okay
obsidian root
I dont think I will watch it. I rather just finish reading the book series
man, so many good stuff was canceled around that time
obsidian root
html is horrifying. css makes it worse
lament girder
html is horrifying. css makes it worse
lmao
many argue html css aren't coding languages
obsidian root
like. Your browser is meant to take the garbled garbage output of your website generator that is mangled with manual edits from 2000 and make it reasonably presentable
css can end up at a garbled mess over time
lament girder
true
obsidian root
lament girder
ducky is probably writing a code on keyboard
scarlet halo
as it should be
Bahahah
paper wolf
what tool is this???
wise loom
I don't comment Code
yes it saves disk space which is expensive nowadays
scarlet halo
what tool is this???
cloc
wise loom
many argue html css aren't coding languages
yes because theyβre concerned with layout not general purpose programming
vocal basin
What should I learn in order to get that role
companies usually list their requirements
vocal basin
something to work on
whole bear
Hello UEFI
wise loom
@paper wolf homeboy got a T490 and he sounds happy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MYYIgqnuDzw
Iβd be happy too. All the hardware on it would work perfect OOB on linux
paper wolf
that person looks like a gooner...
wise loom
that person looks like a gooner...
Whatβs a gooner
worldly merlin
Whatβs a gooner
just dont search it..
wise loom
just dont search it..
Bro just tell me what it is
paper wolf
please, save your soul
somber heath
Bro just tell me what it is
It's one of the things you get told about when you're older.
paper wolf
i just said it assuming you alr know it
wise loom
Abort Soldier
Are you playing a lot of badminton? How do you hit that thing if the wind is blowing ?
somber heath
There are indoor courts.
worldly merlin
The shuttle?
Yeah
I play Indoor as its an Indoor type of game
If you play it outside it will be hard
lavish gazelle
Hi @visual olive
visual olive
Hi <@1359761142142075001>
ello
lavish gazelle
<:pithink:652247559909277706> ello
hyd?
lavish gazelle
i'm okay hbu?
i'm good
vocal basin
*so many linked lists*
need to maintain a structure like this somehow
ugh that's going to be way too much code
somber heath
So that just looks like two layers of double linking, that doesn't look too horrendous.
vocal basin
each node can 1) be removed 2) have its number incremented
and the structure needs to preserved (one list is sorted, the other goes through first item of each group of same number)
removal with regards to green ones is trivial (already implemented)
@fluid wagon your mic is open
(sounds of valorantment are coming through)
@tepid edge I only need increment
yes
important note for not overworrying about storing those efficiently:
I store max - min + 1 items, to which those numbers point
so I can, by index, just get the first node which stores a certain number in it
wise loom
@tepid edge π
vocal basin
this is all done to discard items which have already been sent to all connections
I've also just realised I can do it way simpler and I don't need this
though maybe not, solution with counters will fail when you need to drop connections
yes, each connection stores how much has been sent through it
for now I just need to drop items which no longer need to be sent
that's why sorting connections by sent count
for now, it can
I need to make it work and clean up memory without limits first
vocal basin
need to maintain a structure like this somehow
this part is similar to how LFU operates
unlike LRU where you need only the green ones and there's no sorting involved by any sort of value
yes
big video about various caches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8sZRBdmqc0
assert!s everywhere
@dry jasper somewhat
allegedly
@tepid edge abort if inconsistent state, flush stdout and stderr then exit otherwise
(C/C++/Rust)
if the error is really not supposed to be handled
free and close seem generally useless if your goal is to return resources there
since, yes, it will happen anyway
find ways to explain to valgrind that you're right in doing this
tepid edge
Esteemed Mr./Mrs. Valgrind
I am writing to you today with regards to my decision not to free memory in my program.
[...]
for the cases of non-files, right?
I would expect it to output everything if there's just one big line
it is possible to do that without realloc, since you don't need contiguity
(and instead just allocated bigger chunks which are linked together)
though that doesn't really gain much
it had Grok somewhere in it
vibe finance
ChatGPT, what should I bet on
vocal basin
ChatGPT, what should I bet on
"Sorry, I didn't know you can't bet on red in this game. Could you clarify what you mean by 'horse racing'?"
that would be a very GPT2 response
"so, whatever I have + 40% in loans?"
waiting for GPT to suggest 322'ing it
tepid edge
βοΈ Medium Risk
Underdog bets in sports with insider knowledge.
Prop bets (e.g., player stats) β You can find an edge if youβre analytical.
Crypto (short-term swing trading) β Volatile but potentially profitable.
vocal basin
I have no idea whether it's hidden or not (Discord doesn't indicate)
that one was Valefisk's server
patent chasm
for networking you can use stuff attribtute reporting like that zigbee uses
then you can get effeicent load balancing/forwading of data
or you can use grpc, with multicast, or something like a kafka frountend. for direct ipv6 there is support for multisend with anycast/multicast
vocal basin
I'm making a thing that implements multicast, not uses it
vocal basin
current implementation uses shared data structures with reference counting
and some weird mutex stuff
I'm removing that
so having to redesign it
patent chasm
for what specificaly the RFC or the go/c implementation?
vocal basin
I'm writing this in Rust, as a generic combinator that turns many Stream+Sinks into one big Stream+Sink
limber agate
remarkable isn't it?
treally is
vocal basin
things that are already re-implemented to work sanely:
- replay (whenever another connection is added, the whole history is replayed)
- bufferless (only ready to accept new items, when all connections are ready)
what I'm making now: - buffered (based on replay but added connections skip previous items, and also needs to garbage collect old items)
GCing is the difficult part
previous implementation relied on reference counting
I might end up doing reference counting here too, but for now I do a different approach
patent chasm
why not just do what quic does? just implement a chunk id and a crc check?
vocal basin
CRC is completely irrelevant
patent chasm
its a computed simple hash, you just compute the new "crc" for the recived data against the chunk number, then if your recived data adds up to the transmited one you know you have enough data, even if your using resilant streaming and your adding/dropping connections
vocal basin
I need it to work in general case, even for types which don't expose their byte layout
vocal basin
GCing is the difficult part
i.e. knowing when messages, that you're transmitting, no longer need to be held in memory, since all the connections that needed to have sending of that message started either already did or disconnected
vocal basin
I *might* end up doing reference counting here too, but for now I do a different...
ah, no, I won't, because I also want to kill off slower connections, and for that I need a list of them
can't do with a just counter
patent chasm
is this for tcp/connection orentated connections or for stateless/udp?
patent chasm
cause ngl this kinda sounds like the probelm quic solved, unless your actually rewriting the quic libary
vocal basin
QUIC is a protocol not a library afaik
patent chasm
yes, but its got multiple liabries that implment it accross dif programming langs
vocal basin
cause ngl this kinda sounds like the probelm quic solved, unless your actually r...
but yeah, this is closer to making an implementation of something like that
this is about making more fundamental solutions for stuff
rather than reusing existing
toxic arch
the vc of all time
patent chasm
https://github.com/genmeta/gm-quic should have the multicast one-many support π
limber agate
hi
patent chasm
hi mindfull. sorry my SO is here so i am muted
patent chasm
just having a debate about mutlicast ect :)./ yeah i am good
vocal basin
in what way is that even a debate
vocal basin
https://github.com/genmeta/gm-quic should have the multicast one-many support οΏ½...
is there a specific place where it declares that? or part of the base protocol?
limber agate
how was the interview
patent chasm
is there a specific place where it declares that? or part of the base protocol?
its the rfc 9000
draft currently
patent chasm
but in genral multicast streaming over udp is being handled by QUIC, there is also anycast support
patent chasm
we all love python π
vocal basin
something that accepts messages in order
limber agate
toxic arch
you can look into rudp
limber agate
random question whats ur wpm
toxic arch
reliable udp
patent chasm
if thats happenign over a network id higly adivse against in order processing
vocal basin
I don't want UDP
patent chasm
if its stuff for a cpu bus or microcontroller thats diffrent
vocal basin
@peak depot will start the game
patent chasm
but for diff routes over a network your gonna run all sorts of fluff screwing diff arrival times
vocal basin
if thats happenign over a network id higly adivse against in order processing
it's a requirement
there is nothing to advise on
patent chasm
obsiadian is good, but it github dosnt support all the stuff it does
vocal basin
but for diff routes over a network your gonna run all sorts of fluff screwing di...
arrival times being off is fine
that's why adding buffering
patent chasm
fair enough, but i generaly dont like reinventing the wheel when it comes to networking protocols
cause the networking guys are genrealy dealing with these problems at uberscale
vocal basin
I'm not inventing networking protocols
this combinator works as is, for example, over WebSocket
or in-memory queues
or whatever else that's a Stream+Sink
patent chasm
yeah but your worried about opening multiple streams and then handing the data that they send. i could be worng here but to me that sounds like a networking problem
instead of asking the networking stack to open a socket/stream and handle the data, then you just take the static data it presents to you using the networking libariers to handle errors/recombination
vocal basin
or in-memory queues
this case doesn't intersect with networking
patent chasm
basicaly layer 7 trying to do layer 6 stuff
right back to fighitng something that controls kubclt and messes up my configuration
vocal basin
fair enough, but i generaly dont like reinventing the wheel when it comes to net...
I've seen enough to know that it's very much worth it to work on re-implementing things in a better way
(outperforming ZeroMQ in some cases is already a good enough argument)
especially when it's quite doable and not some outlandishly difficult task as it might first appear to be
proper data structures help a lot
wise loom
https://leetcode.com/problems/add-two-numbers/description/
||
summary: create a new list. carry out arithmetic of addition of two numbers digit-by-digit using a carry to store the excess.
if after the loop there is still something in carry, we need to add another node to the linked list.
then we return the new linked list (that holds the sum)
class Solution:
def addTwoNumbers(self, l1: Optional[ListNode], l2: Optional[ListNode]) -> Optional[ListNode]:
p,q=l1,l2
# first node of newlist is a dummy, everything starts at the 2nd one
newlist=ListNode()
s=newlist
carry=0
while p or q:
pval,qval=0,0
if p:
pval=p.val
if q:
qval=q.val
sval=pval+qval+carry
carry=0
if sval>9:
carry=1
sval%=10
s.next=ListNode(val=sval)
s=s.next
if p: p=p.next
if q: q=q.next
# if there was anything left in carry
if carry>0:
s.next=ListNode(val=carry)
return newlist.next
||
fluid wagon
||
summary: create a new list. carry out arithmetic of addition of two numbers d...
thanks bro
nocturne raft
Oh damn this is crazy. What is the end goal functionality for it?
craggy vale
obsidian root
was that real?
because thats a lawsuit waiting to happen
Im betting you can argue that stress falls under mental illness
or at least as a part
its like "do your legs hurt?"
well, if they hurt, you are fired
yeah
Productivity is much safer metric
at least for HR
I gotta stay away from reddit
my mental health will improve
^ his name is rom.
I have an rss reader partially done
stray pewter
@visual olive π
visual olive
<@1359761142142075001> π
Hello super hru?
stray pewter
good you?
stray pewter
I'm all right
yeah
sadly
yeah but I have been muted for a bit
good good
5 years now nearly 6
hbu
python is now at 3.14
thnaks
commands_dict = {}
commands_dir = "./commands"
for filename in os.listdir(commands_dir):
if filename.endswith(".py") and not filename.startswith("__"):
module_name = filename[:-3]
module = importlib.import_module(f"{commands_dir}.{module_name}")
func_name = f"{module_name}_command"
if hasattr(module, func_name):
commands[module_name] = getattr(module, func_name)
this is my great command loader
somber heath
@chrome marsh π
stray pewter
@compact hound just saying im 14 i dont mind but others might this server is open from 13+
watch out gl and follow the rules
lol
maybe
@whole bear π
somber heath
@whole bear π
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> π
hello
why i don't have permission to speak or type in that vc
!verify
stray pewter
!voice
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
ok got it sir
so what you guys talking about?
ok
hmm got it
is this the official community of python?
ok
teal crystal
@somber heath Hi
How are you, bro?
whole bear
hmm
stray pewter
@teal crystal π
somber heath
@glad river π
stray pewter
@glad river π
glad river
hello
stray pewter
sorry
just want to be welcoming
hehe
@somber heath do you like my logger I made?
visually
stray pewter
05 hours 02 minutes 01 seconds UTC
teal crystal
does anyone knows?
does python supports build constants like compiled languages allows?
Using Env or args from cmdline, can allow an attack to use those to use those features by tinkering with them
stray pewter
it does not matter much but I want my errors to look good
glad river
does anyone knows?
does python supports build constants like compiled languages ...
yes, but you just name it with capitals
teal crystal
does anyone knows?
does python supports build constants like compiled languages ...
or like can i change the constant when i am building it with pyinstaller?
glad river
it's not a hard rule
glad river
or like can i change the constant when i am building it with pyinstaller?
yes, you can't make an unchangable constant in python
teal crystal
if my app has dev mode, which should be available for developer only not for an reverser engineer or cybersec
glad river
for me I'm making a python excecuter but I'm using js
so js can sandbox it
you can't do it only with py (that I know of) (I am new to this)
it's tricky stuff
stray pewter
@somber heath how about now with the date?
glad river
maybe recolor the 15/09/2025?
teal crystal
it's tricky stuff
I think, now i need to change the constant manually before building it with pyinstaller
teal crystal
its ISO 8601 format, supported across other languages, file formats like json, too
stray pewter
glad river
on a scale of 1 to 10 how horrible would it be to code in this:
stray pewter
meh
teal crystal
on a scale of 1 to 10 how horrible would it be to code in this:
its fine
stray pewter
this is the final form
glad river
teal crystal
this is the final form
by the way, what this bot is for?
mc? trading?
visual olive
this is the final form
Mine one looks like this
glad river
stray pewter
by the way, what this bot is for?
mc? trading?
all purpose customizable bot
stray pewter
Mine one looks like this
What I do is only show latencly if its high or if the bot is down and only print on restarts
teal crystal
i think you should remove those lines, and give a proper gap between them
glad river
yeah @visual olive I'm trying to make a gamified project based learning site
it's a bit....
unpolished at the moment
π
and definitely will add a normal font so you don't have to deal with pixel art if you don't wanna
teal crystal
yeah <@1359761142142075001> I'm trying to make a gamified project based learning...
open vscode.dev and copy paste their some html code for text editor π
glad river
and I only started css (like actually) about a month ago π
teal crystal
yeah <@1359761142142075001> I'm trying to make a gamified project based learning...
are you a newbie to html, css, js?
teal crystal
yeppppp
good then give it some time
and after sometime don't stick to it, use AI
and jump to learn js more
Js requires more time which you should spent necessarily
glad river
yeah I've been using some small ammounts of AI to teach me concepts
js is really easy for me since it's so similar to c#
and I've been coding in unity for 2 years
teal crystal
js is really easy for me since it's so similar to c#
how many languages you know?
glad river
@visual olive I'm still in hs
stray pewter
"""
Copyright (c) 2024βPresent SECRET
All Rights Reserved.
This source code and any accompanying files are the intellectual
property of Iona Mitterfellner. Unauthorized copying, modification,
distribution, or use of this material, via any medium, is strictly
prohibited without prior written permission from the copyright holder.
"""
from rich.console import Console, Text
import datetime
def log_info(
*values: any,
startup: bool = False,
warning: bool = False,
error: bool = False,
end: str = "\n",
sep: str = " ",
) -> None:
"""
Log an information message with a timestamp and supports different formats such as error, warning, info and startup.
## Paramseters:
`*values`: Variable length argument list. The values to be logged.
`startup` (bool): Optional. If True, the log message will be marked as a startup message. Default is False.
`warning` (bool): Optional. If True, the log message will be marked as a warning message. Default is False.
`error` (bool): Optional. If True, the log message will be marked as an error message. Default is False.
`end` (str): Optional. The string to be appended at the end of the log message. Default is "\n".
`sep` (str): Optional. The string to be used as a separator between the values. Default is " ".
## Returns:
None
"""
console = Console()
text_type = "INFO"
text_style = "bold blue"
if warning:
text_type = "WARNING"
text_style = "bold yellow"
elif error:
text_type = "ERROR"
text_style = "bold red"
elif startup:
text_type = "STARTUP"
text_style = "bold purple"
printable_str = sep.join(map(lambda s: str(s), values))
text = Text()
text.append(
f"[{datetime.datetime.today().strftime("%Y-%m-%d")}T{datetime.datetime.now(datetime.timezone.utc).__format__('%H:%M:%S')}Z]",
style="bold cyan",
)
text.append(f" [{text_type}]", style=text_style)
text.append(f" {printable_str}", style="#ffeab0")
console.print(text, end=end)
here is my entire logger yes "log_info" is misleading cause it logs more than just info and yes im updating it to log to a file too
@somber heath
glad river
how many languages you know?
python, c#, html, and now learning js, and css
teal crystal
and I've been coding in unity for 2 years
then its just matter of time, once you learn any language, transition isn't much problem
but html, css is from another world
glad river
yeah that's true
I'm really starting to get css
and html is simple to learn
it's hard to master though
because it depends so heavily on css and js
teal crystal
it's hard to master though
div, span, p is the all rounder, used mostly
teal crystal
I'm really starting to get css
if you have time then only go deep in css, don't waste your time on to excel it
something takes time to understand deeply and CSS is one of them
just practice, ask AI to create the code and go one by one that which property is used for which thing
glad river
when I hit a roadblock I'll turn to react or a similar framework, but I think most of them from what I can tell are made to make smooth modern designs while I want it to be pixel arty / game like (this is a response to mods)
but then again I haven't looked into it enough
glad river
if you have time then only go deep in css, don't waste your time on to excel it
...
I'm working on css a bit
just making this website is teaching me so much
proves how powerful project based learning is
stray pewter
@somber heath Perhaps I should remove that, I did not notive including the copyright header
its a private repo
teal crystal
when I hit a roadblock I'll turn to react or a similar framework, but I think mo...
i think react is just allows you to create custom html, css as modules and use it multiple places + other features too
like allow updating variables without listening for events in js, etc, etc
glad river
yeah actually react is a bit more like that, I have found a way to use just js and html to do a similar thing
react looks quite nice though
I'm a bit wondering what I'm going to do about my backend since I want to store user projects...
I'll see
I use firebase for hosting
it was really good about storing user emails
stray pewter
imma hop in a shower, brush my teeth, skin care, pack my bag, drink some water then see if I have time to come back here before school, see yall later
π
teal crystal
I use firebase for hosting
does it have their own language or any stack can be used?
glad river
it was really good about storing user emails
but that's a whole other thing
glad river
imma hop in a shower, brush my teeth, skin care, pack my bag, drink some water t...
have fun
π
glad river
does it have their own language or any stack can be used?
pretty sure it can be anything
visual olive
seeeeya
glad river
pretty sure it can be anything
I used js to call their functions
teal crystal
pretty sure it can be anything
you can try fastapi or robyn for backend
glad river
and they have internal rules written in Firebase Security Rules language
but I don't know how much I'm going to be using that lol
teal crystal
alright Imma go sleep
time?
teal crystal
going for lunch π
@visual olive
visual olive
going for lunch π
<@1359761142142075001>
Enjoy ur meal
patent timber
@somber heath Hi
teal crystal
I'm working on css a bit
umbral iron
Hello all
quiet moat
lament girder
i want to upload my API project on Github should i hide my access key?
or it doesn't matter
wise loom
i want to upload my API project on Github should i hide my access key?
store your API key in a separate file that is left unversioned, and your application will load the key from this file.
to be more explicit, add this file to .gitignore to ensure that it is never versioned.
if your API key is already in the Git repo in one of its revisions (which you can check with git log -p | grep <KEY>)
then you should regenerate it, and then follow the above to make sure it's never stored in your Git repo.
lament girder
sure i'll try this - thank you
vocal basin
i want to upload my API project on Github should i hide my access key?
that separate file, which got mentioned, is usually .env which you load through something like dotenv
removing it from history won't work because of how GitHub works
(so, yes, only regenerating is the way)
there do exist ways to store secrets in Git but they require extra setup
(and those are not really flexible)
if you want API key to be accessible inside GitHub Actions, then that is specified elsewhere in repo/org settings (and passed through using env vars too)
silent plaza
hello
wind raptor
Hey
wind raptor
The other one seems dead and if nobody is live coding, then I don't see the reason to be in that one
silent plaza
hiyo
i feel like i should be sleeping earlier
but i'm just doing my homework
it's going fine
vocal basin
fled the RPLCS VC because people started being overly toxic about someone using Windows
rust programming language community server
@wind raptor "spider man shoots web, then it explodes"?
silent plaza
oml finally, i have voice verification
listening to bol4π₯ so just gonna turn it on maybe sometime tomorrow
vocal basin
@wind raptor https://serverlesshorrors.com/tags/firebase/
also that
I don't even really think that much about lifetimes and borrowing anymore
those are not the terms I think of when I write most of my Rust code
@wind raptor you can now do dyn-upcastable inheritance hierarchies of traits
Arc<dyn Derived> can be converted to Arc<dyn Base>
iirc
you should try to make your code have as few lifetimes as possible
'_ whenever possible
it's often better expressed through type generics/impl Trait stuff
making lifetimes implicit even further
muted silo
vocal basin
!d typing.cast
wise cargoBOT
muted silo
this is what i feel like
vocal basin
the ultimate tool of type unsafety
somber heath
@boreal plover π
boreal plover
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
spice osprey
hi
hello @dry jasper
Δ±m just vait for voice verfy
just 50 message is enugh
π
okey thanx
hahaha allright Δ± will just acth
Δ±m goinfg to general chat
Δ±k eating right now
but Δ±m in voice chat
how did you know
wow you are really intellagenr
Δ± think no one can understand that difrance
Δ± diddent hear
came like 7 mount
Δ±m learning right now web scrapping
after Δ± will learn numpy , pandas modules
like youtube insta some finance web
Δ± use selenium
junior sparrow
Hey everyone, i am new here also I just started exploring python, to be honest I joined this Group for learning and developing myself
spice osprey
my connection lost and comeback if you say some Δ± diddend hear
spice osprey
Hey everyone, i am new here also I just started exploring python, to be honest I...
hi wellcome to python family
junior sparrow
Hey everyone, i am new here also I just started exploring python, to be honest I...
Basically I'm newbie π π
junior sparrow
hi wellcome to python family
Thank u
spice osprey
Basically I'm newbie π
π
Δ± said fot the animmo
when you start actue
and what u know
junior sparrow
Δ± said fot the animmo
Opps gotcha π π
junior sparrow
when you start actue
I started bro from yesterday π
spice osprey
Δ± opened my voice barieer if you want we can talk and you can open too
Δ±m in voice 0
junior sparrow
Δ± opened my voice barieer if you want we can talk and you can open too
Ohh nice thank u again π
But i guess I don't have enough knowledge yet π
spice osprey
yea Δ± can understand
spice osprey
Ohh nice thank u again π
But i guess I don't have enough knowledge yet π
where you start to learn
in youtube or some website
junior sparrow
Hehe π
junior sparrow
in youtube or some website
To tell you the truth I have been learning this for the last 1 month but now I want to learn it a little seriously.
spice osprey
freecodecamp org have good tests and there is have some sertification project
spice osprey
I bought this book 3 days ago
open sorce code learnin platform
maybe you can take a look
junior sparrow
maybe you can take a look
Yeah , I will π
spice osprey
Yeah , I will π
π
junior sparrow
ππ
junior sparrow
Print("see you")
π
So are u expert ?π
Print("I will talk to you tomorrow\n Have a nice day ")
Print("I felt good talking to you")
ocean gazelle
Print(iter(next))
wise loom
in youtube or some website
on youtube you find out how to pimp your Hyprland
woeful blaze
Daisy
junior sparrow
Dude, people actually rediscovering books π .
Unexpected but amazing.
Yeah, Books are a storehouse of knowledge.
As for me, I prefer to learn from books rather than from teachers. Not all teachers π I love primary knowledge source.
Books are like a river or a waterfall and teachers are like a cup of water.
wise loom
tl;dr: to be 10x, now you have to imagine you're an actor in a movie, it's like a fake movie that only plays in your head
https://iaziz786.com/blog/boring-work-needs-tension/
vocal basin
tl;dr: to be 10x, now you have to imagine you're an actor in a movie, it's like ...
not written well
the very next entry
please stop
eh
being unable to discover patterns on your own is problematic too
if all the GoF patterns you know only from the book, and never came up with them on your own, probably it was too early for you to read that book
oaky that whole paragraph is bad
shocking truth: people aren't CPUs
okay this is a funny piece of CSS
okay I've seen enough fun and bad stuff, no more reading of that
vocal basin
tl;dr: to be 10x, now you have to imagine you're an actor in a movie, it's like ...
seems like just another Medium-type article/blog
not worth considering
ocean solar
Hello There
somber heath
@fair skiff π
cerulean minnow
*/
function resetForm() {
document.getElementById("photognum").value = 1;
document.getElementById("photogrs").value = 2;
document.getElementById("membook").checked = false;
document.getElementById("reprodrights").checked = false;
document.getElementById("distance").value = 0;
}
wind raptor
*/
function resetForm() {
document.getElementById("photognum").value = 1;
...
const form = document.getElementById("form")
form.reset()
cerulean minnow
const form = document.getElementById("form")
form.reset()
document.getElementById("photognum").value = 1;
document.getElementById("photogrs").value = 2;
document.getElementById("membook").checked = false;
document.getElementById("reprodrights").checked = false;
document.getElementById("distance").value = 0;
jolly fiber
wind raptor
!stream 1301206198787506297
wise cargoBOT
β @cerulean minnow can now stream until <t:1757983902:f>.
jolly fiber
yeah
whole bear
@wind raptor I want to talk about something which I can't talk about in public chat
Can I DM you?
wind raptor
No thanks if it's what we told you not to talk about on here.
whole bear
No thanks if it's what we told you not to talk about on here.
Actually I was looking for help π
But thanks
somber heath
@gleaming parcel π
whole bear
I'm not asked about it!
But this is my perspective on coding
It is easier to learn tools but it is hard to master the implementation of tool
I barely care about language anymore
What's your take on it @cerulean minnow ?
cerulean minnow
i agree with you wiser turtle
you can learn what to do with a pencil or pen but if you dont know languages or you have nothing to write with its pointless
whole bear
you can learn what to do with a pencil or pen but if you dont know languages or ...
Nah language itself is a tool
Output is the desired result and the process is implementation
stray pewter
ummmm
whole bear
I think you ain't mental!
@cerulean minnow why do you want to write a book?
To be honest, I wrote a book on JavaScript and Impact of Design on Human
cerulean minnow
hey there wiser turtle
whole bear
Unfortunately Books sell because of Author
cerulean minnow
whats up super dev