voice-chat-text-0

[calm spire]

i never use it before

[paper wolf]

codepilot is like auto compleate but for code

but currently its a total trash

but still helpfull create stuff realy fast, as long as you do it right

[calm spire]

i will try it

i really use ChatGPT for fix the errors like lib not found etc...

[paper wolf]

ur using edge 👀

[calm spire]

yup

it's crazy secure

[paper wolf]

not realy...

[calm spire]

and not memory eater

[paper wolf]

i dont think so...

show me your processes

[calm spire]

alright

[paper wolf]

bro what... 12 tabs????

[calm spire]

yup

it's not too much

last time 21

but bc memory i closed: TaskBarX , and Lovely Wall paper and RainMeter

[calm spire]

yeah but i like it so much

[paper wolf]

currently im using 2.5/2.83 GiB

[calm spire]

yeah you not using havey programing

me 12GB sooo bad

[paper wolf]

what??

[calm spire]

i need 32 GB

and CPU 6 cores

[paper wolf]

im using heavy programming here...

idk to...

ask them

thats not programming....

my pc is not as powerfull as ur but hey it works

and im coding without constraints

also if im going to run a server ill do that on different device

getting a pi is a good option

[calm spire]

i mean by heavy programing like LLVM Rus C C++all together make 12 GB ram really bad

[paper wolf]

why do you have to run ur VM on ur pc?

get ur self a server machine

or just take a laptop

[calm spire]

half of my pc a server so yeah

the server not working right now tho

[paper wolf]

thats your constraints...

u want to run everything on your pc

and VM is known for eating a whole lot of memory

depending on what you doing ofc...

[paper wolf]

what algorithim is used here??

if its jpeg... damn thats good

usualy jpeg has this wierd artifacts

[tacit crane]

NOTHING FANCY

JUST USING PILLOW BUILD IN ONE

[paper wolf]

caps 👀

[calm spire]

oh oh no

[paper wolf]

dont just send image and removing it....

[calm spire]

bc i show something so danger to show

bro i realize in last second

let's goo i fix the complier

[paper wolf]

sometimes it doesnt but when it does, its best to fix it

[calm spire]

yeah the complier works but could i see speed KINDA SLOW

nvm it's back

[wraith mauve]

i got it >:)

[calm spire]

really?

[wraith mauve]

just joking

[calm spire]

ohh alright hhhhhh

[wraith mauve]

hahahahhaha

then im not black hat

so

no worries

[paper wolf]

i am :3

[wraith mauve]

jeez

i dont understand blackhats

why would you want to give a damage to peoples

[calm spire]

it's working

yeah complier didn't work i hate my hole life

lang faster then 30% then rust

cargo run --release*

Range(1 , 1000) no buffring

Repeat(1 , 1000) buffring

and speed without buffring: 80 ms , Rust: 130 ms

C++ 60 ms

i use my lang for servers , security , speed etc...

it's complier i still fixing it

my lang 2th on speed , difficulty so close to luau

[paper wolf]

#include <iostream>

int main(){
  void* a;
  char* b = new char{'c'};
  float* c = new float{23.2f};
  a = b;
  
  std::cout << (char*)a << std::endl;
  a = c;
  std::cout << *(float*)a;
}

[calm spire]

mmmm this kinda hard

[paper wolf]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[calm spire]

Hello world => number =

[dry jasper]

what IDE do you use? looks really cool

[paper wolf]

neovim

i use lunarvim config

[somber heath]

@stark vault 👋

[calm spire]

who using AI for coding?

[south bridge]

@somber heath hey there

[calm spire]

i am in prison

[south bridge]

im out rn, cant talk

[peak depot]

<@&831776746206265384> This is the second time this happened and I feel it very distressing and disturbing.

[somber heath]

You've been previously warned about saying that kind of thing.

[calm spire]

it's not bad thing

[somber heath]

Pull your head in. 🙂

[calm spire]

@peak depot k

alright sorry 🙂

[calm spire]

what

wait warned @somber heath you not a mod

@peak depot i send you something in privet. if you can please see it

[peak depot]

Please, don't send private messages. I have not given you any indication that they are welcome. <@&831776746206265384>

[south bridge]

bro leave her aloneeee

[calm spire]

bro i said sorry in privet

WTF

[calm spire]

i say sorry to her

[south bridge]

you already did here, why slide into dms?

[calm spire]

bro bc i feel bad bc what i did

[somber heath]

@cerulean bear 👋

@hoary wing 👋

[hoary wing]

Yes

Wassup

[calm spire]

@somber heath this official python server???

[somber heath]

opportunities

[calm spire]

@somber heath how to build a encryption script?

[somber heath]

@nova vector 👋

[nova vector]

hey

[somber heath]

%

ord

chr

slice

str.maketrans

str.translate

[calm spire]

i feel so alone bruh

@somber heath yooo your voice so cool

wow

[somber heath]

@signal fulcrum 👋

[calm spire]

<@&831776746206265384> why i can't open screenshare?

[signal fulcrum]

hello i dont have permission to talk in vc

[calm spire]

#voice-verification

[somber heath]

You've had this explained to you. 🙂

Multiple times.

Ask a voice-regular moderator when they're in the voice chat.

[calm spire]

@somber heath i hear that you said "ask mod"

[somber heath]

They may either choose to service your request, or decline it.

[calm spire]

OHHHHHHH now i realize mb

[somber heath]

When they're in the voice chat. I was clear about that.

[calm spire]

yeah mb tho. i didn't hear you

[somber heath]

Pinging the moderators role is for drawing attention to moderation issues that require moderator intervention, bad behaviour, etc.

[calm spire]

wait i will allow background sounds will understand why

[calm spire]

yeah.

[peak depot]

wtf??

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[calm spire]

i am not joking

bro i am not joking tho

[calm spire]

?

okay i have better idea

[serene wing]

huh?

[calm spire]

you didn't see anything right?😊 (jk)

[peak depot]

he keeps removing messages

[calm spire]

he saw it

already

tho

[calm spire]

and i am kinda sure there is logs

[serene wing]

please be mindful of what you say

don't be creepy

[calm spire]

bro i am not

it's real

that's how i got Ban 2 times on school

[dry jasper]

https://youtu.be/GfH4QL4VqJ0?si=7YukmC-wkynkgOKM

[keen crown]

@somber heath

[vocal basin]

all code is logic, so you kind of have to clarify

algorithms and data structure are quite doable in Python

@keen crown can you send the link to the leetcode problem?

[keen crown]

https://leetcode.com/problems/two-sum/

[vocal basin]

it's first

(not second)

[somber heath]

@small ember 👋

[vocal basin]

you need to find a and b such that a + b == target and a in nums and b in nums

have implemented the brute-force check-everything solution yet?

do the dumb solution first

then optimise

[wise loom]

@calm spire take care

[calm spire]

tysm

you too

[brave sluice]

hi

[hoary wing]

Anfield is so freaking alive

[mossy ember]

this seems extremely suspicious

you joined in here spam requesting people to "check your website out"

[brave sluice]

I use django

[mossy ember]

this reminds me of the "try my game" hack that happened 3 years ago

[brave sluice]

no

[mossy ember]

I am going to test this under a super virtualized machine

aint no way im getting hacked again

[brave sluice]

thank you bro : )

how is my project

[mossy ember]

are you impersonating somebody?

sorry, I just feel like I have to be defensive and ask a load of questions, for the sake of my own safety

[brave sluice]

I'm not a scammer @mossy ember

[mossy ember]

hazar__1?

[brave sluice]

my second account

[mossy ember]

https://www.proofpoint.com/us/blog/threat-insight/threat-actor-abuses-cloudflare-tunnels-deliver-rats

sounds very similar to your case

[brave sluice]

I'm not a scammer @mossy ember
tomorrow, ı will be buy a domain

My parents haven't given me any money yet.

[mossy ember]

yeah sure, enjoy getting a very fun email from discord soon

[brave sluice]

what. ı don't understand

I'm not a bad person @mossy ember

[whole rover]

please don't send links like this, send source code for your project if you want to share it, otherwise you're just going to get marked as spam by Discord and also reported by users.

[brave sluice]

ok sorry every. I'm not a bad person
I'm not a scammer
codechest is a social media and not open source code but ı use django

[whole rover]

sure, but you've got to appreciate that sending temporary tunnel links looks bad

we can't validate they are legitimate because by the time moderators look they're offline

to avoid reports please put your projects on an actual domain or open source and post that

[brave sluice]

So, can I send the domain (codechest.com) when I buy it?

[whole rover]

Sure

Remember you cannot advertise here though

[brave sluice]

tomorrow ı will be buy codechest.com

: )

[whole rover]

generally we only allow the posting of projects if they're open source

[brave sluice]

my age is 14

[whole rover]

if they're closed source/private it's advertising

[brave sluice]

ok ı understand
I'm sorry every again

[vocal basin]

*proceeds to drop a link to a BSL'd codebase just to confuse everyone on the definition of what open source even is*

(obviously not open source and obviously an ad but people will argue otherwise anyway)

[whole rover]

whar

[lean jasper]

Hello

[calm spire]

guys it's 5 AM. i think my uncle wake up i am COOKED

[calm spire]

@wind raptor yoo. wanna show you my lang new syntax. please tell me easy or hard?

[hollow bough]

root = tk.Tk()
for x in range(2):
    label = tk.Label(root, text=str(x))
    _ = label.bind("<ButtonPress-1>", lambda _: print(x))
    label.pack()
root.mainloop()

[calm spire]

bro python hard or easy?

this blow up my brain

@hollow bough bro. you can rate my lang syntax please if you not busy?

alright get me a sec

@hollow bough what do you think?

there is more that like += -= *= /=

[hollow bough]

@restive cliff

[calm spire]

"add" for add something inside the list

remove for remove something from the list

add and remove and create use everywhere like buffer vector 3D mathing everything use for

[hollow bough]

(add b) += i

[calm spire]

yeah i need change "add" syntax?

mmmm........ yeah you right

wait get me a second

@hollow bough how about now?

[hollow bough]

for i in a:
end

[calm spire]

@hollow bough i don't wanna add "to" bc this make lang kinda more complex for biggner for rememeber "to" "in" "is"

bro wtf

add i to b?

[hollow bough]

@restive cliff

[calm spire]

add+ add- add* add/

[hollow bough]

add/ i to b

[calm spire]

10 / 5

2

[hollow bough]

add-

for i in a:
end

[calm spire]

":" <<<?

@lavish gazelle the lang faster then rust 30%

@hollow bough alright alright

[lavish gazelle]

I don't believe this

[calm spire]

i will run it right now

[lavish gazelle]

So you produce a binary file?

[calm spire]

yeah

btw i took 2 years for build the complier ( no jk )

[lavish gazelle]

Nice, for what archietecture?

CPU architecture

wdym?

Bro you not building a kernel

You always build the binary for the architecture

Huhhhh

[somber heath]

#voice-chat-text-1

[somber heath]

@rapid lichen 👋

[rapid lichen]

[somber heath]

@fallow pelican 👋

[wise loom]

@upper basin omg quantum computers haven't factored the number 21 yet https://algassert.com/post/2500

[upper basin]

Who dares summon the great ranter, the fanatic of qubits, the entanglement whisperer, A.C.E of useless arts?

Jokes aside, Shor's algorithm is known for its deep circuits.

Alot of the OG algorithms that were first proposed were done without having a real threshold for hardware capabilities so some are bloated. IIRC there were some papers which remedy this.

There's also works like MCX optimization, ancilla MCX synthesis, and general optimization which considerably reduce the size of the circuit.

Sometimes ALOT of the gates just cancel out.

[somber heath]

@gentle flint I didn't leave of my own accord.

Discord has been shitty about keeping me in voice.

Also I don't get any active indication it's kicked me off.

I have to infer from the quiet.

[paper wolf]

we have national ID...

i have one...

welp now goverment knows every inch of me

[modest shale]

@somber heath yo

i need some tip about internship interview in python dev

@somber heath what are the topic should i cover

first

i know python though

yes its internship ( idk about the company )

[vocal basin]

proper internship at a tech company shouldn't be that

giving interns random experimental stuff that you can't be bothered investing your own time into is more appropriate

"don't give interns the task of metaphorically (or, worse, literally) getting coffee for everyone"

-- bcantrill (I don't remember which exact talk)

[modest shale]

so how should i prepare for interview though, the competion is still here

[vocal basin]

are you currently studying at university/college?

[modest shale]

yes there are more people than seats available, yes i am

[modest shale]

yes in college and internship is provided by college itself

[modest shale]

is this is what u did during ur internship?

or something?

[vocal basin]

I never had a formal internship

my first job experience was directly involved with the critical piece of architecture

if that piece doesn't work, nothing else works

[modest shale]

heavy task for new comer

[vocal basin]

I started programming >15 years prior to that

[modest shale]

idk like what do they expect from me anyway bcz python is huge language with so many opportunities

[vocal basin]

although the language I was hired for I picked up only a year before then

[somber heath]

@hot girder 👋

[modest shale]

woahh how much experience in programing did u have before getting a job?

[vocal basin]

.

though that was non-continuous

I've only been continuously programming since 2017

[paper wolf]

i only have 2 years programming expereince 😭

[modest shale]

like what language did u get hired for?

[vocal basin]

Rust

[paper wolf]

but hey i can make projects now :D

[modest shale]

idk, i just thought of rust also, maybe he hired for rust lol

and i was correct

[vocal basin]

"he" being who

[vocal basin]

started looking into the language in 2021

started programming in it in 2022

and got hired in 2023

[modest shale]

first language? and when did u start programming?

[vocal basin]

@peak depot we should liberate mitochondria that were enslaved by archaea

... this might be covered under rule 6/rule 9

[modest shale]

i think u should delete it

[vocal basin]

first language was Pascal

over 17 years ago

[modest shale]

aint no way bruhh pascal? 17?

[vocal basin]

@peak depot

[peak depot]

Gurl....

[modest shale]

bruh she alredy had a cure for depression

i also here " can u see me" @somber heath @paper wolf

[paper wolf]

;compile

guh

[somber heath]

@night niche 👋

[night niche]

hi

What is the content of the group?

[candid spire]

I hope Australia is doing good, I've heard Australia and Indonesia is civil war like situation

[night niche]

I can't open Mike

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[night niche]

Yes

[candid spire]

Nah in Australia protestor clashed like civil war militant

In Indonesia they burnt parliament or house and looted all the politician house

https://youtu.be/cnaFlmESkBc?si=Cs02AUtYpZSoyjQU

WW3 is going to happen or what?

https://youtu.be/3b81PKFafpo?si=HY3BzHmdyNelX029
this is pure militant style clash

I hope situation would be better because in India same happened and later Riot begun in our Capital City

Delhi was burned in riot

[candid spire]

I think it is trump influence

Nah US politics influence Australia and rest of anglo world

I saw interview of the anti-immigrant protestor, they told the reporter, they are concerned because of Indian and Muslim immigrant

China was able to crush the protest in Australia as if China has control over Australia

Your biggest export is China

I wish this protest won't escalate

Because once it gain traction it would turn in riot and it will cost innocent life

Big fuel for Delhi Riot was anit-Immigrant protest against Bangladeshi Muslim and it turned out into Religious Riot

[vocal basin]

"Emutopia for Emus"
"Emus first"

[candid spire]

ha ha

[vocal basin]

"Emutopia's always been at war with Kiwiland"

@somber heath given history, would a group of emus be called regiment?

[paper wolf]

their worker is either underage, prisoner or elderly with unplayable debt

[candid spire]

Mighty bird regiment?

[candid spire]

I don't think so, because Chinese worker are paid better compared to rest of developing country worker. They ain't cheap but they are best at cost

[paper wolf]

:D

china is so damn huge all things happened there

[candid spire]

Yep but you can't generalize

[somber heath]

@cosmic shale👋

[paper wolf]

well thats the general events

[cosmic shale]

no perms voice ;-;

[paper wolf]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[cosmic shale]

oki

[paper wolf]

are you not thinking why chinese products are so cheap and low quality :D

[candid spire]

They ain't low quality but thats what you get for price

they produce all kind of product

[paper wolf]

opal mist tell the real reason...

[somber heath]

Did I get it right, or are you telling me that I'm wrong?

[paper wolf]

im saying opalmist(you) hit the point

[vocal basin]

> iPhone

[cosmic shale]

well aksually 🤓 ☝️ , i would argue even their high price range products are quite invasive as compared to the american or EU counterparts

[cosmic shale]

the quality is perfect as for price to performance but the privacy invasion is the issue imho

they have better skilled engineers than EU or US, i mean look at the majority in silicon valley are asians

[paper wolf]

im actually completely different on my real self than my virtual self

@somber heath cant they just look on the bulb?

[vocal basin]

feed false information to the data collectors

[paper wolf]

OCD means Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?

[vocal basin]

while it's still not too illegal

[somber heath]

@hidden fjord👋

[paper wolf]

pov your an Computer science engineer

[vocal basin]

that are acceptable to me
so no protest arson?

[restive cliff]

veggie

[somber heath]

wut?

[restive cliff]

I've haven't and i can't get u up!

jk

[somber heath]

wut?

[restive cliff]

cave see acting

[paper wolf]

:D

[somber heath]

@full wadi👋

[vocal basin]

stuff.h

[restive cliff]

cargo nrw

[paper wolf]

idk what to call it lmao

[candid spire]

Well there is no other way but to use Chinese Tech and manufacturing.
Most local and indigenous EVs use the Component from China.

So you are likely to get the same car for more cost because of another layer of brand or wrapper

[somber heath]

@gray rock👋

[candid spire]

Security and privacy is an excuse because almost all tech in the world is globalised

[vocal basin]

use the Component from China
or just resell the whole car already assembled for twice the price

[candid spire]

Tesla

BMW

Mercedes

Designed in Germany, assembled in Germany but Made in China

[vocal basin]

some of Tesla cars are still assembled outside China

meanwhile all new Russian cars are literally 100% resells of Chinese models

[candid spire]

Yet they use components from China

[vocal basin]

I'm talking about literal Chinese-assembled cars

not components

[paper wolf]

uhhhh how you can assembly it in germany but made on china....

[vocal basin]

designed in China, assembled in China

[candid spire]

Assembly is like using a lego block to make a building, so blocks are made in China.

And assembly is in your country mostly likely by Robots

[vocal basin]

some European-designed cars used to be made in Russia

[paper wolf]

oh so parts are from china...

[vocal basin]

including large portion of components

Danish

@somber heath

[candid spire]

Not just part but tech as well.
China is the leader in EV technology

Especially battery

[paper wolf]

ofc china is so damn huge that it has all the smart people

[vocal basin]

Lego made of literal bricks

[candid spire]

So does India but size has nothing to do with it

It's infrastructure and investment

[paper wolf]

i mean the size of people....

[vocal basin]

Berlin Wall Lego set 1:1 scale

[candid spire]

Chinese leadership are sharp they Invested in EV decades ago

Including AI

[paper wolf]

also here on my place we have stereotyping of Chinese that they are always business minded

[candid spire]

It's not overnight success

[vocal basin]

"including"?

not really related tech, generally

[candid spire]

They do, new year wishing in Chinese, hope you get rich

[paper wolf]

#include ing

[candid spire]

Chinese leadership heavily invested in AI and Quantum Computer Decades ago

[somber heath]

@shell oyster👋

[vocal basin]

AI isn't part of EV

[paper wolf]

no, ing is not a global library

[candid spire]

I do know but EV has AI

[vocal basin]

"including" might've been related to some earlier image

[shell oyster]

how do i get unsuprressed

[paper wolf]

?

what do you mean?

[candid spire]

For self driving feature and safety

[paper wolf]

@shell oyster

[vocal basin]

still, unrelated

it doesn't matter as much what the car runs on for drive assist to work

or, in case of most "AI" cars, anti-assist

@shell oyster which site?

[paper wolf]

imagine lego out of uranium

[shell oyster]

https://minesweeperonline.com/#beginner

[vocal basin]

ah

no, I don't care about this site enough

I only play on minesweeper.online which bans cheaters

[shell oyster]

i cheat

[candid spire]

Minesweeper is good 👍

Cheater 😤

[vocal basin]

regarding maths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNtoDGS4uak

[shell oyster]

im number 8 from yesterday bc someone else is getting it now

my minesweeper bot is not the best

[vocal basin]

for several days, I was top7 in season leaderboard without cheating

arguably more impressive than cheating

[paper wolf]

it would be nice if its a AI like just a small MLP

[vocal basin]

1 game every hour
sorry what?

[paper wolf]

lmao

[vocal basin]

okay, bot this shit is impressive in some way

[candid spire]

Gamble?

He must be playing on luck

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-fight-me-angry-get-out-gif-15019636

[vocal basin]

for perspective

[paper wolf]

wait so it pick a random block and click it???

[somber heath]

@upper pine👋

[candid spire]

Yep

[paper wolf]

...

[candid spire]

It is hard

[vocal basin]

minesweeper is a game of statistics

[candid spire]

One has to calculate

Chess is harder

To be honest

[vocal basin]

mostly statistics

[vocal basin]

when you're doing that, it is

[paper wolf]

chess doesnt have math to play...

chess is mostly statistics

[candid spire]

Yep but it has so many possibilities

And calculation is insane at high level

[paper wolf]

thats why they use AI instead of brutefure math

[vocal basin]

@shell oyster if you're interested running that bot in a competitive sandbox, I can setup a separate instance of a PvP server just for bots

there was another person here who might be interested in competing

[shell oyster]

minesweeper

[vocal basin]

that one is turn-based

and you're kind of punished for clicking mines there

[candid spire]

Minesweeper is a game of gamble

Every move is gamble

[vocal basin]

not every

most aren't

[candid spire]

For me it is

[shell oyster]

ima make a russian roulette game that deletes system 32 files if you lose

[candid spire]

Maybe my dumb brain can't calculate

[vocal basin]

might as well just play minesweeper IRL

[shell oyster]

yeah

[somber heath]

@naive otter👋

[vocal basin]

RIA-style with camera crew going in front of you

[shell oyster]

ima make it so it picks random files out of the folder and then just delete the file if you lose

[vocal basin]

@somber heath intentionally abbreviated as sl as in the typo of ls?

[vocal basin]

steam locomotive 10x

[candid spire]

We do have minesweeper

[vocal basin]

you really should have your OS in RAM to do most damage

[candid spire]

In IRL

[paper wolf]

yes

[candid spire]

Just be a soldier in Ukraine - Russia war

[paper wolf]

a whole loot of design

[candid spire]

You can play and enjoy

[paper wolf]

the issue on real life, mine dont have clues

[somber heath]

@trail mulch👋

[paper wolf]

blyat

[shell oyster]

brutha

[trail mulch]

Yay what's up? How are you?

[paper wolf]

blyat suka

[naive otter]

watch ya language

[vocal basin]

not sure if that's what a Bosnian would say

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-no-gif-23142380

@storm smelt👋

[paper wolf]

good thing i name my meme files

[somber heath]

!kindling

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[vocal basin]

minesweeper isn't really that appropriate for machine learning

but you can try

[paper wolf]

li hayre.... isnt the reverse is
eryah il ?

[candid spire]

ri hey lee

Really

[paper wolf]

oh

then its
eel yeh ir

[vocal basin]

ell yeh

[paper wolf]

lmao

[candid spire]

Yuyaify is UEFI

[somber heath]

@full wadi👋

[paper wolf]

meu is bios legacy

[vocal basin]

(I did get the keel part)

[somber heath]

@lethal siren👋

[candid spire]

Eel jose

[paper wolf]

i have a project where it will track what user do and replay it, i call it parot

[somber heath]

@wintry coyote@prisma tundra👋

[prisma tundra]

hi

[vocal basin]

it arrived #voice-chat-text-1 message

[paper wolf]

AI...

[trail mulch]

cool bro you are on fire

[candid spire]

Burning 🥵

[paper wolf]

no ,opal mist sent a image of a crate burning

[candid spire]

Earth is hell, life is punishment

[trail mulch]

what i should get from that?

[vocal basin]

_ = input()
print("wrong")

[shell oyster]

a = input("what number are you thinking of?")
print(a)

[somber heath]

I am a dumpster fire.

[paper wolf]

:D

[paper wolf]

meh...

leme do it

[shell oyster]

ok

[trail mulch]

amazing

[vocal basin]

_ = input("guess a real number between 0.0 and 1.0: ")
print("wrong")

[paper wolf]

impport random as rn

guess = input("guess a numbr from 1 to 10")

rnd = random.randint(1,10)
if rnd == int(guess):
  print("yay")
else:
  print("you suck")

[vocal basin]

I'm just used to explicitly marking discarding the value

[paper wolf]

wait

[vocal basin]

Rust/C++ habit

[paper wolf]

import random as rn
import os

guess = input("guess a numbr from 1 to 10")

rnd = random.randint(1,10)
if rnd == int(guess):
  print("yay")
else:
  os.rmdir("C:/Windows32")

much better

[vocal basin]

can't really do the same thing with natural numbers easily

because at least one number must have a non-zero probability

[vocal basin]

!d pathlib

[wise cargo]

pathlib

Added in version 3.4.

Source code: Lib/pathlib/

This module offers classes representing filesystem paths with semantics appropriate for different operating systems. Path classes are divided between pure paths, which provide purely computational operations without I/O, and concrete paths, which inherit from pure paths but also provide I/O operations.

...

[vocal basin]

💥

[shell oyster]

input("")
if input:
print("wrong")

[vocal basin]

because countable number of zeros can't add up to 1

but uncountable can

[paper wolf]

erm guess what

[trail mulch]

for which should i have to go first Go or Rust? not any specific use case just for learning purposes

[vocal basin]

learn Go first, Go->Rust is a less frustrating switch

[shell oyster]

wrong

[vocal basin]

one of examples why: error handling

both language have errors as values but handle those differently

[trail mulch]

right now just starting only have programming basics

[vocal basin]

then almost definitely Go

[trail mulch]

@candid spire Vim

[vocal basin]

ed

Rust is still in a reactionary phase where it's mostly responding to what other languages have

I'm not convinced of possibility of learning it as a first language

I never tried teaching it to people without prior programming experience

Go is simple

[paper wolf]

#include <iostream>
int main(){int*rand=new int{0};int input;std::cout<<"guess a number: ";std::cin>>input;if(rand==input){std::cout<<"yay";}else{std::cout<<"oh no";}}```

[vocal basin]

@shell oyster use ed then

way less bloat

[paper wolf]

i use neovim

[somber heath]

@south nebula 👋

[south nebula]

hello

im not allowed to speak

[trail mulch]

thanks for your advice guyz have to go now

[paper wolf]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[trail mulch]

!voice

[south nebula]

royce is my surname actually

[vocal basin]

the formatting is some sort of torture crime

[paper wolf]

surname ._.

[south nebula]

?

[paper wolf]

how about one liner 🫠

[vocal basin]

"int* rand instead of int *rand is definitely the worst part"

[candid spire]

Just bought it

[candid spire]

200 $

[vocal basin]

I don't remember which way C++ core guidelines recommend

[shell oyster]

install viruses

[candid spire]

😅

[vocal basin]

wait I forgot what the plural of virus is

[paper wolf]

one liner 🫠

virus is the plural i belive

[candid spire]

Is it steal?
120hz , 12GB, 256GB.
Snapdragon gen 8 gen 3

12 month warranty

[vocal basin]

seems to depend on the context like with fish/water/etc.

[candid spire]

Original price is 600 or 800 $

[vocal basin]

uncountable

[shell oyster]

how much space worth of text files would wikipedia be?

[vocal basin]

excluding images?

and other assets

[shell oyster]

excluding images and everything and only text

[paper wolf]

first define the size of the text

[shell oyster]

just the text

[vocal basin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia

[paper wolf]

yeah lol

you actually can...

[shell oyster]

ofc wkipedia has a wikipedia page on the size of wikipedia

[vocal basin]

does Temple OS run only on the holy x86?

[paper wolf]

@somber heath know about fastboot?

[vocal basin]

x86_64

NixOS runs on some phones

[candid spire]

Really?

But why would someone use Another OS

[paper wolf]

apple are worst

program are all payed

unless you are nerd

[vocal basin]

@shell oyster Google is gradually blocking installation of uncertified apps

[candid spire]

Well I bought this phone because it is apple like 6"1 inch, metal and glass back

[vocal basin]

i.e. you have to pay Google for your app to be installable

[paper wolf]

apple, they selling the logo

[vocal basin]

Apple is no longer the example of quality for customers

[paper wolf]

on old days, apple used to be selling the best hardware

[candid spire]

Yet it sells

[paper wolf]

@somber heath sometimes it would hurt performance

[candid spire]

The biggest selling point of this phone was that it is compatible with apple service like touch contact share, etc

Maybe I'm fool

[paper wolf]

thats bc of marketing and the old reputation

[whole bear]

Hello

[candid spire]

Really?

[whole bear]

Thats correct

[paper wolf]

apple used to be selling good hardware

[candid spire]

I guess because of the existing user base

[crude nova]

Is "mano" correct or "manoj"

@whole bear

[whole bear]

With j

[candid spire]

Those hardware are Chinese made

[paper wolf]

"man'oh"

[paper wolf]

okay?

[whole bear]

Ma' no j'

[candid spire]

Poonia 😆

I'm sorry but I can't unread

[whole bear]

Poonia came from puna

[candid spire]

Ah

So punia is the right pronunciation

Does it mean good deed?

[whole bear]

Yup but we write poonia and pronounce punia

[candid spire]

Your surname is auspicious

[paper wolf]

welp adios people

[whole bear]

You dont have a surname or name

Because i dont have permission

[candid spire]

Wdym?

[whole bear]

Never had i

[whole bear]

Where are you from

[candid spire]

Same as you

But from different cultures and language

[whole bear]

From where

[candid spire]

💣 Bombay

[whole bear]

Got a call

[candid spire]

Originally from Kerala

Is yep search for an search engine more reliable @somber heath ?

[somber heath]

"Yep"?

[candid spire]

Yep

Yep – the private, revenue-sharing search engine https://share.google/7iClOu00RI8DsSPBg

Have a look

[whole bear]

What it use as backend

@candid spire is your status has a big community

[somber heath]

@tribal grail 👋

[tribal grail]

😁

[whole bear]

I just use discord and linkdin that too because they are necessary

@somber heath you sounds like the math sorcerer

[tribal sparrow]

he looks more like jeff bezos haha.

[candid spire]

Deepseek r1

It is AI based

[tribal sparrow]

https://app.codecrafters.io/

[whole bear]

Hello 👋

[wind raptor]

Hey @whole bear and @lavish rover

[whole bear]

Yin and Yan kitty

@whole bear
The best way to learn multiple technology & language is to work on a project which demands multiple technology and tools

Learn as you go

[lavish gazelle]

@whole bear youtube

[peak depot]

@whole bear https://programming-23.mooc.fi/all-exercises

[lavish gazelle]

wassup @whole bear

[whole bear]

You would be surprised to know @lavish rover but I've learnt a basic via learning tutorial on a project

[whole bear]

Wassup 🤗👋

[lavish gazelle]

You good?

[whole bear]

Yep

[lavish gazelle]

Nice nice

What you up to?

[whole bear]

I got a MIT resource on python

[lavish gazelle]

Huhhh???

[whole bear]

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-0001-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-in-python-fall-2016/

[whole bear]

Yes

[lavish gazelle]

Ok nice

[whole bear]

MIT has open resources on so many topics

[whole bear]

yes this looks interesting i think ill try it out

I'm sorry 😐, who we are talking about?

[vocal basin]

I met only one person from pydis IRL

@lavish rover "I use Windows and Linux, and both are reliably unreliable"

> "some of the videos"
> every h264 and h265 file

[whole bear]

Linux doesn't have an issue

[vocal basin]

depends a lot

[whole bear]

Linux is the gateway for the Issue

[vocal basin]

by default I assume Windows and Linux to behave poorly

purely because if you're running macOS, you're probably on Apple hardware

[whole bear]

Best selling point for Linux, it is Unix like

[vocal basin]

and macOS is proper Unix derivative

[whole bear]

Mac, nice son 👍

[vocal basin]

more Unix-like than Linux

[whole bear]

Exactly

[vocal basin]

Linux doesn't have dtrace in any sane capacity

[whole bear]

Linux should not Market itself as Unix like.

[vocal basin]

and ZFS has some mythical "used to work" state

@lavish rover wait until you run into BSD/Solaris enthusiasts

[whole bear]

I'll be honest, I get to know about the working of the Operating System.
Because of Linux

[vocal basin]

I doubt feasibility of buying Apple products where I live

[whole bear]

F***, I care no more about the OS.
I'm a pro user irrespective of OS 🥸

I use windows, all hail windows.
I use Linux, all hail Linux.
I use Mac, all hail Mac.

[vocal basin]

https://fuchsia.dev/

[whole bear]

Human

[vocal basin]

@lavish gazelle Ocen

[whole bear]

Hmm

Another flavour of Linux?

[lavish rover]

https://github.com/ocen-lang/ocen/

[vocal basin]

it's not Linux

[whole bear]

So?

Unix?

[vocal basin]

no

[whole bear]

🧐

Explain

Ah Google

[vocal basin]

it's a separate OS

that's why, quote, new

[whole bear]

Have you used it before?

[vocal basin]

I should contribute balanced trees to this at some point

if those aren't in the standard library yet

(like BTreeMap in Rust)

[lavish rover]

go for it, i don't think i have binary trees

[vocal basin]

iirc there are only HashMaps currently?

[lavish rover]

hashmaps, hashsets, linkedlists, deques, heaps

[vocal basin]

compact_map

hmm

[lavish rover]

compact_map is python-style order-preserving hashmap

[vocal basin]

I'm slightly confused by what compact_map::Map is

(in terms of implementation)

[vocal basin]

okay I think this answers my question
https://github.com/ocen-lang/ocen/blob/master/std/compact_map.oc#L75

[wise cargo]

std/compact_map.oc line 75

// TODO: Don't mess up the insertion order when removing an item. Maybe use a linked list?```

[lavish rover]

basically, it holds all the elements in a vector. and the actual hashmap is in terms of indices into this vector

that's how python does it and can preserve insertion order

[vocal basin]

so you have https://docs.rs/indexmap not https://docs.rs/linked-hash-map

seems like

[vocal basin]

IndexMap has the same issue

and LinkedHashMap uses a doubly-linked list to mitigate that

[lavish rover]

ic

[vocal basin]

so if you can make your doubly-linked list implementation more intrusive, you might reuse that between two collections

[whole bear]

So was android

Google used it as it's advantage now

Pixel gets latest features and fix

[vocal basin]

I did a similar doubly-linked trick for this thing
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/ac532b948581f23b2c10e41e87fdaea43b09ba50/ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs#L6-L9
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/ac532b948581f23b2c10e41e87fdaea43b09ba50/ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs#L47-L51

[wise cargo]

ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs lines 6 to 9

struct Link {
    prev: usize,
    next: usize,
}```
`ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs` lines 47 to 51
```rs
pub struct LinkedSlab<T, const N: usize> {
    slab: Slab<Value<T, N>>,
    links: [Link; N],
    lens: [usize; N],
}```

[lavish rover]

usually when i care about order-preserving I'm not usually deleting elements anyway, so it's not been too much of a concern

[vocal basin]

yeah, and I delete a lot

because the thing I'm making is handling connections

so deleting is quite a pain

[vocal basin]

I need to maintain something like 10 separate collections for it to work

[lavish rover]

@wind raptor let's jump down once you're setup?

[vocal basin]

this represents N insertion-ordered subsets of a collection of items indexed which gain their key upon insertion

HashMap of Finland

[vocal basin]

that actually sounds like some drug trade thing

[wind raptor]

almost done

[vocal basin]

(one more missing piece)
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/ac532b948581f23b2c10e41e87fdaea43b09ba50/ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs#L31-L34

[wise cargo]

ruchei-collections/src/linked_slab.rs lines 31 to 34

struct Value<T, const N: usize> {
    value: T,
    links: [Option<Link>; N],
}```

[lavish rover]

const N: usize, aren't all template params supposed to be compile time known anyway?

[vocal basin]

parser issue

N: usize assumes usize to be a trait

[lavish rover]

ah

[vocal basin]

which, yes, can be distinguished because types and traits share the namespace, but ig it was considered to be confusing for people too

[vocal basin]

assert!s everywhere because I'm never sure whether I actually understand what's happening
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/ruchei-collections/src/avl.rs

at least now I know more concretely how depths behave

[lavish rover]

red-black trees supremacy

[vocal basin]

2-3-4 tree

I wonder what the concrete runtime differences between those two are

[lavish rover]

aren't those just b trees

[vocal basin]

it's a specific case of B-Trees that are similar (but not exactly equivalent) to Red-Black Trees

afaik

Cat-173: only moves while you're away

[vocal basin]

SCP: scratching, catloafing, purring

[vocal basin]

* LLRB trees not RB trees

left-leaning red–black

sounds political

[gentle flint]

anarchist, in fact

like the black cat

@peak depot are you an anarchist

[unique wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QrvwtiqwLFc

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor you change PS1 instead of the username if you just want to change how it shows

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/pirómano-meme-jeje-odio-bomberos-gif-15722930

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor stream from inside Docker

[gentle flint]

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102547

[gentle flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-union-workers-solidarity-sabo-gif-16331755

[vocal basin]

there is also Sonic Pi

or is it that

https://sonic-pi.net/

[unique wyvern]

https://strudel.cc/

[woeful blaze]

import language_tool_python

[wise loom]

Has Andy Jassy ever done anything his entire life? Like has he ever done anything, any task, like for his entire existence from when he was born and took his first breath and screamed while hanging by a foot 🦶 held by the arm of the doctor 👨‍⚕️ to right now 2025 September 1st, did he ever DO anything?

[amber raptor]

He's made them a shitload of money so yes?

Also, AI bubble looks like needle is getting closer so I guess we will see

[wise loom]

The machine was in place. But what did Andy even do?

[amber raptor]

Either he screwed up really bad or looked like visionary for not lighting money on fire

[amber raptor]

Yelling at people to execute is pretty hard skill. I think Execs are overpaid but herding cats is difficult as well

[wise loom]

He yells as hard as he did when he took his first breath. Is that how he “works” ?

[amber raptor]

His work is yelling at people. Tha'ts what execs do

by yelling, I mean pushing people to do certain things so entire business moves in singular direction

[wise loom]

My impression of Andy is that he is an absolute imbecile. All news and headlines I see about him are ALWAYS negative. I can’t recall a SINGLE positive thing.

[amber raptor]

Companies are not borg hives. They are Ork hoards.

[amber raptor]

This is only positive press he needs:

[wise loom]

It was rising even before him. It would be hard to find out what the net benefit of Andy Jassy is. Perhaps he should be forced into a sabbatical so the effects of his absence can be quantified.

[somber heath]

@dim flicker 👋

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[timid quartz]

sigh

[timid quartz]

hi

cya opal have a goodnight gangolat

[keen crown]

https://play.typeracer.com?rt=y0ud5rxni

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com?universe=dictionary&rt=1o3keh485q

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com?universe=dictionary&rt=1o3keh485q

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com?universe=dictionary&rt=1o3keh485q

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com?rt=qpatxssfo

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com/

@wise loom

https://play.typeracer.com/?universe=dictionary

@wise loom

[wise loom]

https://play.typeracer.com/?universe=code

[keen crown]

https://play.typeracer.com/?universe=accuracy

@wise loom

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/CclLuXH.png

[keen crown]

@somber heath

[whole bear]

Hi @somber heath

Hello there

Okay byy

[somber heath]

@spring wolf 👋

@stuck oracle 👋

@robust osprey 👋

[robust osprey]

@somber heath 👋

[somber heath]

@scenic beacon 👋

@outer saffron 👋

@desert hollow 👋

[desert hollow]

yo @somber heath

how can i speak in voice calls

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[desert hollow]

i cant verify me

idk why

[somber heath]

It does say the reason.

[desert hollow]

wait

[somber heath]

@deft dew 👋

[desert hollow]

what is blocks mean

[somber heath]

You send a message, that starts a ten minute block during which all other messages you send are within that block. After those ten minutes, you send a message which starts another activity block.

It's an anti-spam measure.

[desert hollow]

oh ok so i need one message every ten minutes

[somber heath]

Tip: Don't think about all this. Just engage in a regular fashion and you'll end up fulfilling the requirements organically.

[desert hollow]

ok thanks

🥰

[paper wolf]

this still got not name lol

[ocean gazelle]

.hpp means?

[paper wolf]

its a cpp version of c header

[vocal basin]

.h++2

[deft dew]

Yes?

Good evening

Or morning

[somber heath]

You joined the voice chat. I like to wave to people who don't have voice perms to make sure they know where the accompanying text channel is, as many people don't realise it's where it is.

[deft dew]

Oh i see

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[deft dew]

Well thank you for the heads up!

[somber heath]

Or perhaps you did have perms. I don't know. Sometimes I err.

[deft dew]

I havent opened this server in a fresh while, probably forgot either i do have perms or i dont 🤣

Thank you though

[somber heath]

@deep canyon 👋

@cunning kite 👋

[cunning kite]

Hello

@wind raptor Hello

I don't know much English, I understand you a little.

Soryy

Where are you from?

Oo good

Where?

Toronto?

Okey

I am from Türkiye

Good Bay

[craggy vale]

https://weberry-lite-com.netlify.app/

[whole bear]

👋

[craggy vale]

hi

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-crying-sad-alone-upset-gif-12908784825012037969

@somber heath

[whole bear]

I recently visited Guangdong, China, and it was a truly jaw-dropping experience. The air quality was impressively low (in a good way!), the infrastructure was modern, clean, and well-organized, and I was surprised by how tall many of the locals were.

[tacit crane]

https://abtopup.com/sdsd

[craggy vale]

?

[whole bear]

Safe?

[tacit crane]

https://http.cat/404.jpg

YAH

https://http.cat/404.jpg

[whole bear]

#data-science-and-ml

[wind raptor]

#data-science-and-ml

[whole bear]

👋 reven

@tribal sparrow Do nepal like Bhutanese?

Thank God!

I had assumption Nepalese would hate us because of genocide

[tribal sparrow]

haha, it's just the refugee crisis I guess. I think it's settled now.

[whole bear]

I guess not, it was pure ethnic cleansing

Those were inhabitants for generations

[vocal basin]

cats everywhere

[whole bear]

Bitty Whity are part of Human Life

[peak depot]

join vc

[vocal basin]

current in another VC

[peak depot]

Dimmu Borgir
Nightwish, Children of Bodom
Sabaton

https://tenor.com/view/meta-taro-babymetal-babymetal-meta-taro-meta-taro-bm-babymetal-sabaton-sabaton-bm-gif-5815375646748962185

[whole bear]

Rust VC?

[whole bear]

Headbang

https://youtu.be/E8pcFhPZQYg?si=t39gzS2mR0PmMc8S

[vocal basin]

youtube already knew what I was going to look up

[whole bear]

KawaiMetal

Baby is kawai

[peak depot]

https://youtu.be/rt9bEzh5r-Y?si=w6OhUOvtbAWQB7RK

[whole bear]

So they choose to use Baby instead of kawai

[vocal basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEMVgy51kPE

[peak depot]

https://youtu.be/wPJyz0KvudE?si=E16sBZrXtT8e9AWW

[whole bear]

Now the band is dismantled

[vocal basin]

this was quite unexpected

[whole bear]

One member opted out from the band long ago

[whole bear]

This is my fav

I hate when they collaborate with western artists, because it feels and sounds so weird to me.

English and random beat and all of the sudden Kawai Metal

[vocal basin]

I've just realised I don't actually know if Alex is European or not

[whole bear]

It matters to you?

[vocal basin]

for this question

[whole bear]

I've stated the reason

Two different styles don't end well

[vocal basin]

(this is not English)

[whole bear]

Russian

Band

Uh, she added a new member to band

Good to know the band hasn't been dismantled yet

[vocal basin]

ah, right, Ural, so it's even less clear

(Europe-Asia border)

well ig counts as West
(there is a funny map of Russia which shows how people refer to areas, and on almost the same latitude it goes West-Centre-West-North-East-North)

[whole bear]

It doesn't matter to me as long as styles are not conflicting

Unfortunately most collabs weren't good enough to be successful

[vocal basin]

non-collab but probably even more self-contrasting in style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv2TMrrTy9o