voice-chat-text-0

[stray pewter]

@patent chasm

[patent chasm]

yeah just found this

ngl i hate that BS

[stray pewter]

caas

[patent chasm]

for refrence uk uni degree is 9k a year

[stray pewter]

certificate as a service

[patent chasm]

for 3 years

[candid spire]

I guess you can use pirate bay

i would not encourage you to do so

[gentle flint]

naughty, naughty

[candid spire]

I do have legally free resource

[patent chasm]

MIT put all their stuff online for free

[candid spire]

Yep

Exclusive resources are exclusive for reason

Like Bruno Simon's WebGL course

[patent chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_rAxEsAvI

[candid spire]

No hate JS

Hate hater

[patent chasm]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/node-js/how-to-fix-security-vulnerabilities-with-npm/

[stray pewter]

@somber heath How are you doing?

[candid spire]

@steep kernel Intentional username?

[steep kernel]

?

[patent chasm]

hes probably hindu

[steep kernel]

who need's help

[patent chasm]

i hope

[stray pewter]

<@&831776746206265384>

[steep kernel]

bruh?

[candid spire]

@wind raptor Take action on the fellow member @steep kernel .

He would like to share DDOS code and has quite inappropriate username

[steep kernel]

no

bro

i don't let a malicus code's my english is trash bro you can read :)

[candid spire]

I don't think so

He hopped in Voice Chat

[steep kernel]

bro i am from turkey

[candid spire]

Talked about DDOS

[steep kernel]

and i am living germany

[stray pewter]

ummmmmmmm

well

[candid spire]

Was willing to share code for DDOS

[stray pewter]

that does change things

[steep kernel]

bro anyways don't look my name for this reason

[peak siren]

!superstar 1391199604145520842

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied superstar to @steep kernel until <t:1756364880:f> (1 hour).

Superstarified!

Your previous nickname, 卍 realmekverberkofficial 卍, was so bad that we have decided to change it. Your new nickname will be Céline Dion.

You will be unable to change your nickname until <t:1756364880:f>. If you're confused by this, please read our official nickname policy.

[stray pewter]

:3

[peak siren]

We have zero tolerance for any nazi imagery or references. Change your profile and name immediately or you will be removed from this server.

[steep kernel]

:)

[candid spire]

Better you've changed 😄

[floral oasis]

Hmmm

Hi

Better

[candid spire]

Pls do not share any malicious code

[floral oasis]

Malicious

??

[steep kernel]

brooo

whyy

[stray pewter]

Also they were mentioning sharing or asking for DDOS related code I am not quite sure in what way they meant that. However I was confused

[floral oasis]

Ddos?

Weird

[candid spire]

Bro got no shame

[ocean solar]

hi

[steep kernel]

bro don't copy me this is not safe

[peak siren]

!warn 1391199604145520842 Do not share or discuss malicious code on this server. See #rules .

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @steep kernel.

[peak siren]

!rule 5

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[steep kernel]

okay

[stray pewter]

Thanks Billy

[steep kernel]

bro

i got 2

[peak siren]

Next time, just ping moderators plz

[ocean solar]

Woah Celine dion i'm a huge fan

[steep kernel]

bro i need banning speedrun

[stray pewter]

I did...

lol

[candid spire]

Pls leave the server

[steep kernel]

okay

[stray pewter]

no need for that

[steep kernel]

?

[stray pewter]

they recived their warnings

[steep kernel]

and?

[peak siren]

You've already lost. We're happy to remove you, but we'd rather not.

[stray pewter]

That was a very weird interaction

I must say

[steep kernel]

bro i have and quest

are you a discord bot bro

you talking like an discord ai

[stray pewter]

sadly I cannot

[steep kernel]

why

[stray pewter]

!rule 4

[wise cargo]

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

[stray pewter]

@steep kernel

[steep kernel]

okay

!rule 12

[wise cargo]

:x: Invalid rule indices: 12

[steep kernel]

!rule 1

[wise cargo]

Rules

1. Follow the Python Discord Code of Conduct.

[steep kernel]

bro i am gonna ddos my self because why not

ohyeah 5000ms

[stray pewter]

I am not quite sure what you mean with this statement

[ocean solar]

oh yeah Mr. Krabs

[stray pewter]

Custom clients are against rule 2 as they break Discord ToS

!rule 2

[wise cargo]

Rules

2. Follow the Discord Community Guidelines and Terms of Service.

[steep kernel]

!rule 3

[wise cargo]

Rules

3. Respect staff members and listen to their instructions.

[steep kernel]

bruh

bro

i can't change my name

[patent chasm]

i lurk

[steep kernel]

turkey or what

[candid spire]

You can't change ur name

only mod can

[steep kernel]

bro i need to make realmekverberkofficial

then

of crazy part

on here

you deleted wrong message or what?

[patent chasm]

this server, and discord in general dosnt do "offensive security". and that is the nicest way to put it

[candid spire]

Do you know what?

[patent chasm]

i know what 😉

[candid spire]

I've got spam from a stranger with malicious link and disgusting images

They happen to be from this very same server

I ignore the DM from a stranger

[stray pewter]

look at this

[patent chasm]

pure art

[stray pewter]

What is your opinon

[candid spire]

What about the other 99% of the UI?

[stray pewter]

its only

lines

[candid spire]

Celine Dion got muted?

[stray pewter]

made in good old Css and html

no react, svelte, tailwind none of that

[steep kernel]

bruh

[stray pewter]

just css and html like Tim Berners-Lee intended

[somber heath]

@blissful stag @ancient leaf 👋

[ancient leaf]

Hi

[whole bear]

Hey Opal

Yes I do

I got to know more about skilled folks here!

Most of server member are smart and nice to each other

Let it be, mod are good at moderation

So what you doing?

I wish it could

Don't worry, you'll be alright

[steep kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405147917001560186/1405491668643479592/image0.gif

[whole bear]

Life is unexpected

trolls are everywhere

[steep kernel]

just is silence

[whole bear]

@steep kernel Do not spam gif so often

[steep kernel]

okay

[whole bear]

please

[steep kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/icltspmofr-fr-pmo-ts-icl-gif-10839482190714570115

and i have an hamster

Cute my hamster

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-mad-hamster-pissed-mad-angry-gif-5375849

An eye for eye

[somber heath]

@fathom aspen 👋

[fathom aspen]

Hello

[whole bear]

Good pfp

[steep kernel]

bro

open my voice

[whole bear]

#voice-verification

[steep kernel]

bro

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks.

[whole bear]

I do

[steep kernel]

its my account

i trying

[whole bear]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/speech-to-text

[whole bear]

This has complete info about it

If you do know python, you could understand the code and instruction in it

@fathom aspen So did you code it yourself?

[fathom aspen]

Ehm, I am unsure

[whole bear]

wdym?

If you used AI

I can't help because you are not sure about code itself

[fathom aspen]

No

[south zealot]

hey

please help

i got error in my code

can i share my screen ?

i justed joined i cant stream in server

dm ?

[patent chasm]

how do you stream in this discord?

[south zealot]

theres a option next to cam

bro i will share my colab link can you try to run ?

@fathom aspen

[whole bear]

As far as I know

There has to be mod

in Voice Chat

[patent chasm]

ah

fair enough

TIL

[south zealot]

bro please anyone help me

[whole bear]

he will give you temporary perms to stream

so no mod = no stream

[patent chasm]

we have a pastebin tool in this discord?

[fathom aspen]

Okey

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[limber condor]

Hello

any one have tried using django-ninja

what your feed back

[patent chasm]

https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/18/the-ultimate-weapon-against-ddos-bgp-flowspec/

[muted silo]

Why does @patent chasm sound like that dude from every other generic AI-generated YouTube video? You know the one who always talks about "Top 10 facts that you wont believe"

[vocal basin]

I'm considering getting something like that for the third monitor

[crude nova]

Josean Martinez

[whole bear]

@merry moon Hey

[merry moon]

hi

hows life treating you guys 🥀

[whole bear]

Just the way it should be

[vocal basin]

by the profile I thought ri changed the display name

[merry moon]

damn man

[vocal basin]

(because of this part)

[whole bear]

How about you?

[merry moon]

stressful man ngl

school n stuff

[vocal basin]

nvm it's off by one letter

@wise loom absolutely necessary package to learn for most Python usecases

@wise loom you mean dataclasses?

pydantic extends dataclasses

feature set

[steep kernel]

mango

mango

[vocal basin]

so true

[merry moon]

you guys sound like experts

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/dcramer/mangodb

[steep kernel]

its just silence

[vocal basin]

https://docs.pydantic.dev/latest/concepts/json_schema/

@steep kernel please tone down the shitposting a bit

[timid quartz]

i am failure

@tepid edgeIm showing

bud

@tepid edgea photo

[steep kernel]

guys

[tepid edge]

annoying/10

[vocal basin]

oh so Chris doesn't even need to check the deletion logs

[steep kernel]

thankzz

[vocal basin]

thanks for making it easier for him

[steep kernel]

uhmm

never mind

[tepid edge]

お前はもう死んでいる

[steep kernel]

"you are dead" bro what are you mean?

[vocal basin]

you should've just replied with "what"

to continue the meme

[steep kernel]

what the hellll

私は最高だ

translate this

[dry jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

[vocal basin]

okay going back to this,
Rust's equivalent is at least three separate crates

[steep kernel]

どう思いますか

[vocal basin]

* four

[steep kernel]

兄弟

[wind raptor]

!mute 1391199604145520842 3d Posting inappropriate and shitposting images on the server (gun pointed at cat and DDOS program)

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @steep kernel until <t:1756655753:f> (3 days).

[wind raptor]

What is this supposed to mean?

[whole bear]

Are you evading ban?

[vocal basin]

serde, serde_json, schemars, garde

[wind raptor]

congrats on escalating a 3 day mute to a perma ban

[vocal basin]

whoa
5 bans at once

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1399886478733213748 Evading a mute

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @cyan mortar permanently.

[vocal basin]

@tepid edge as I've mentioned here recently, ban evaders aren't smart

[whole bear]

how about his other ID?

he can evade again

he got many alt account

[wind raptor]

!ban 1391199604145520842 evading a mute

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @steep kernel permanently.

[whole bear]

Here he goes again

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1410402121827749950 evading

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @rain ermine permanently.

[timid quartz]

HNOT ME

[whole bear]

I think he will create more account to evade

[vocal basin]

@tepid edge ban evasion is almost only about excessive cases like this

[wise loom]

his goal in life..

[vocal basin]

like insisting on misbehaving

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1410411516607336539 ban evade

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @feral pulsar permanently.

[whole bear]

dude choose to fight mod

[timid quartz]

chris cant yall like hardware ban

[wise loom]

how did he get so many emails tho?

[whole bear]

he is testing patience of mod

[timid quartz]

ip ban

[vocal basin]

Chris on that typing practice

[wise loom]

he doesn't have his own domain..

he must've created them manually..

[timid quartz]

😭

[vocal basin]

he doesn't have a DDoS tool
he IS the DDoS tool

[timid quartz]

..

again.

[vocal basin]

@dry jasper

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1287100808588169227 ban evade

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @balmy anvil permanently.

[timid quartz]

chris do u js have it copy and pasted

[wind raptor]

yeah haha

[vocal basin]

I'd hope the user would at least learn to spell "broke"/"broken" correctly

in between bans

[vocal basin]

I was originally going to write validator

instead of garde

but

validator doesn't have the Valid wrapper

not a mage, I see

[whole bear]

I guess he choose to be stubborn

I bet he in process of making more account to evade again

[vocal basin]

very```rust
#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize, JsonSchema, Validate)]

it would be great if validation in serde+garde just altered the Deserialize implementation

[lucid pond]

What's up?

[vocal basin]

https://docs.rs/garde/latest/garde/validate/trait.Validate.html#method.validate

when Valid<T> is being deserialised, it first deserialises T, then calls .validate() on it

[lucid pond]

I need an indept explanation on the concept of OOP in python

I'm really struggling with that

[tepid edge]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

is where there are instructions for a place where you're more likely to get one

[vocal basin]

https://realpython.com/python3-object-oriented-programming/

the scrollbar
https://realpython.com/python-classes/

[lucid pond]

Thanks

[timid quartz]

chris.

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1410656871492227112 ban evade

[vocal basin]

2020

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @crisp shard permanently.

[vocal basin]

why was it 2020

[tepid edge]

from typing import Literal
from pydantic import BaseModel


class Container(BaseModel):
    something: str
    something_else: int
    tags: set[...]  #TODO

"""Bob wants to annotate his container objects with an optional set of tags, 
where a tag can either be a static string, or a two part tag where the first 
part identifies the type of tag and the second is a arbitrary string value
"""

[timid quartz]

he back.

[wind raptor]

!cleanban 1410656658836684980 ban evade

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @frozen veldt permanently.

[vocal basin]

||str | tuple[str, str]||?

@tepid edge ||statically known set of types of tags||?

can use ||https://docs.pydantic.dev/2.0/usage/types/enums/||

possibly

should just work as is iirc

I know how serde does it

(assuming the question is how you'd translate #[derive(Deserialize)] enum from Rust to Python)

||Field(discriminator=...)||

RootModel for a big union of complex types

and then | that to a str

serde is somewhat weird about its default handling of enums

#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize)]
enum Example {
    Unit,
    Struct { x: i32 },
    #[serde(untagged)]
    Untagged { x: i32 },
}

"Unit"
{"Struct": {"x": 123}}
{"x": 123}

#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize)]
enum Example {
    #[serde(untagged)]
    Untagged1 { x: i32 },
    #[serde(untagged)]
    Untagged2 { x: i32 },
}

{"x": 123}
{"x": 123}

lost information of what type it is

untagged is just like Union

tries everything in order

if nothing matches, explodes

with a non-descriptive error

do you want to inject the discriminator inside the object or put it alongside (in a pair)?

I'm trying to remember how Pydantic does flattening

[tepid edge]

class Message(BaseModel):
  payload: BigUnionType # of BaseModel subclasses if that helps
  payload_type: str # or Literal[...]

[vocal basin]

needs to have some sort of connection between the payload_type value and the appropriate type of the union

somewhere

[tepid edge]

payload.__class__.__name__ is payload_type

[candid spire]

@peak depot what's the meaning of life?

@vocal basin what's the meaning of life?

[vocal basin]

.wa s define life

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

a characteristic state or mode of living

[vocal basin]

depends on what the meaning of "meaning" is

https://tenor.com/view/bill-clinton-meaning-of-the-word-is-word-is-serious-gif-12582906

@tepid edge ugly but works

[candid spire]

Is this the meaning of life!

[vocal basin]

I'm making it less bad

[whole bear]

Life has no meaning and no plan

the best plan is having no plan

I do enjoy and suffer every moment of my life

[vocal basin]

@tepid edge the usage:

class A(BaseModel):
    a: int


class B(BaseModel):
    b: int


class AOrB(RootModel[discriminated_union(A | B)]):
    pass


print(AOrB.model_validate_json(discriminated(A)(a=123).model_dump_json()))

and the implementation

def discriminated[T: BaseModel](ty: type[T]) -> type[T]:
    class Discriminated(ty):
        discriminator: Literal[ty.__name__] = Field(default=ty.__name__)  # type:ignore

    Discriminated.__name__ = f"Discriminated[{ty.__name__}]"

    return Discriminated  # type:ignore


def discriminated_union[T](ty: T) -> T:
    return Annotated[Union[tuple(map(discriminated, ty.__args__))], Field(discriminator="discriminator")]  # type:ignore

this does hard-code discriminator as the name of the field

flattening is a bit non-trivial with Pydantic

[vocal basin]

certain weird typing stuffs are invalid under mypy

but valid under pyright

"das fridge
jaja"
or whatever the Germans would say

[wind raptor]

!stream 381154715293188106

[wise cargo]

✅ @dry jasper can now stream until <t:1756401173:f>.

[vocal basin]

gravelwich

@wind raptor very messy

that's why I avoid it

at least the popular game dev stuffs

[dry jasper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

[wise loom]

@tepid edge i am very interested in the challenge, but i need a little bit of time to clean some of my backlog

[dry jasper]

"Terra preta owes its characteristic black color to its weathered charcoal content,[2] and was made by adding a mixture of charcoal, bones, broken pottery, compost and manure to the low fertility Amazonian soil."

[wise loom]

@tepid edge i hope you will agree for us to resume the discussion on the challenge once i free up

[tepid edge]

Sure, no rush

[dry jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/vaughnpena-gif-27076347

[tepid edge]

but regardless for job interviews in python I'd def recommend learning about pydantic

[vocal basin]

if well is a hole from which we extract water, then drain is unwell?

[peak depot]

non-well

[vocal basin]

antiwell

[peak depot]

null-well

[tepid edge]

Are the drains ok?

[crude nova]

def count_characters(text):
char_count = {}
for char in text.lower():
if char in char_count:
char_count[char] += 1
else:
char_count[char] = 1
return char_count

[dry jasper]

https://www.w3schools.com/python/ref_string_count.asp

[crude nova]

ishowspeed

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-wow-omg-gif-17428264941961796075

[vocal basin]

famous for

• scams
• having his pants fall down during a stream

[wise loom]

for the views..

[vocal basin]

yes

substring, not just a prefix/suffix?

you either need a prepared structure

just in

it's close enough to linear complexity

[candidate for candidate in haystack if needle in candidate]

I'm trying to remember how faster trie-related approaches work

which optimise for read time

[dry jasper]

[candidate for candidate in haystack if needle in candidate count ++]

[vocal basin]

count = sum(needle in candidate for candidate in haystack)

count = 0
for candidate in haystack:
    count += needle in candidate

count = 0
for candidate in haystack:
    if needle in candidate
        count += 1

three options of how to write it

sum is expected to be slightly faster

no

x++ doesn't

[crude nova]

ok

[vocal basin]

++x is valid syntax but it's a no-op

!e

print(++5)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

5

[vocal basin]

!e

print(--5)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

5

[vocal basin]

!e

print(5-- + ++5)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

10

[crude nova]

I see

[vocal basin]

reminds of the --> operator in C

"operator"

while (i --> 0) {
}

[vocal basin]

this really sounds like full-text search

if you want to optimise for read time

and that requires using something like a proper database, generally

[vocal basin]

okay, it's time to implement AVL trees again

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_MCP

this

why is the Tron thing with the same name so funny looking

[vocal basin]

I'm back to using very descriptive variable names, l and r

@wind raptor wait until C++26

when reflection begins

you can finally stop writing 10 constructors for each class

act on the program itself

derives in Rust aren't reflection but do similar things

Python is largely built on reflection

derive isn't reflection because it acts on tokens not higher level language constructs

.__class__ and stuff

.__annotations__

.__name__

and all those

C++29 might get class(interface) syntax

(which C++26 doesn't yet get)

C++26 just gets some basic data extraction abilities

so you still need to kind of invent codegen mechanisms

https://youtu.be/BKIuIh3Jo_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKbT0Vg3ISw

https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/ruchei-trie/src/trie.rs#L20
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/ruchei-trie/src/trie.rs#L65

[wise cargo]

ruchei-trie/src/trie.rs line 20

fn adopt(&mut self, parent: NodeId, first: u8, child: NodeId) {```
`ruchei-trie/src/trie.rs` line 65
```rs
fn disown(&mut self, child: NodeId) -> (NodeId, u8, Vec<u8>) {```

[vocal basin]

I suddenly decided to rename connect because it didn't fit the terminology well enough

[vocal basin]

this is probably the more important of those two talks

(same person)

[vocal basin]

@scarlet halo I bought G733 a couple of years ago but the store fucked up a bit so I got different ones instead

(G935)

[scarlet halo]

😭

[jolly fiber]

hello

[primal shadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/

[jolly fiber]

trying to get my voice verified

[primal shadow]

Kensington

[jolly fiber]

@wise loomhe saying modules not models

[wise loom]

@smoky copper !voice-identification

!voice-verification

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[hasty orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/@Fireship/

[brave sluice]

how is my project : )
https://literature-overcome-norm-frederick.trycloudflare.com/home

[hasty orbit]

lmfao

L

[brave sluice]

is it good project @hasty orbit : )

[whole bear]

@wise loom what are u doing ??

[wise loom]

reading, you?

[whole bear]

watching your stream

what do you read ??

[wise loom]

this link, here you go https://stackoverflow.com/q/48515105/827519

[whole bear]

okay , what is this ?

🥲

[wise loom]

the analysis of a problem, it's all in that link. have you read it yet?

[whole bear]

no

cuz my eng is too bad

and i'm too muchhhhhhhhhh begginer

[wise loom]

i'm also a beginner

[whole bear]

in programming

[wise loom]

i read and learn

[whole bear]

ahhh okay great workk

@wise loom can i ask u ??

[wise loom]

sure what do you wanna ask me?

[whole bear]

how can i share my screen in this server 🥲

[wise loom]

you can ask a mod when they're around

[whole bear]

okayy ty <3

[whole bear]

what is the name of this music

[wise loom]

you can hear the music?

[whole bear]

yeah ofc

[wise loom]

see it on my screen

[whole bear]

okayy ty i see it <3

[stray pewter]

@trail geode 👋

[trail geode]

I love you all

[timid quartz]

@wise loom

hi iko

[wise loom]

hi procoder

[timid quartz]

hi']

[somber heath]

@fluid crest 👋

[stray pewter]

@somber heath And hello to you too!

how are you?

thats good to hear

[fluid crest]

Hello brother

well done with the problem you are trying to solve

[somber heath]

@calm stream 👋

[calm stream]

Hi

[fluid crest]

Is the code working for all test cases ???

[young hound]

Gotta go bye guys meet you later

[wise loom]

Oh I'm still looking at it, got caught up in a few other things

[paper wolf]

@wise loom desktop env was that

[wise loom]

doesn't matter

[paper wolf]

I'm just asking

[wise loom]

@tacit crane
https://github.com/epoupon/lms
https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome
https://github.com/sentriz/gonic
https://github.com/vnghia/nghe
https://github.com/LMS-Community/slimserver
https://www.musicpd.org/clients/
https://github.com/izderadicka/audioserve

docker images:
https://hub.docker.com/r/epoupon/lms/tags
https://hub.docker.com/r/deluan/navidrome/tags
https://hub.docker.com/r/sentriz/gonic/tags
https://github.com/vnghia/nghe/pkgs/container/nghe-musl
https://hub.docker.com/r/lmscommunity/lyrionmusicserver/tags

@tacit crane
https://ffmpeg.lav.io/
https://github.com/talwrii/ffmpeg-cookbook

[stray pewter]

@gentle flint @peak depot Good morning

@obsidian dragon 👋

[gentle flint]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellergal

[vocal basin]

ping now has only two states:
zero
and several tens of thousands

it looks a lot like a UI bug

yes

JavaScript measures time in milliseconds
maybe someone did something wrong with that

it used to cap out at 5s

.wa s (distance to moon in light seconds) * 2

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

2.699 light seconds

[ocean solar]

hi

cool

[somber heath]

@carmine geyser 👋

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[carmine geyser]

thank you 🙏

i got it

[somber heath]

@wide crystal 👋

[wide crystal]

Hey, why cant i talk

what criteria?

[obsidian dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htLBTywpZSU

[somber heath]

@ocean gazelle 👋

@thick cradle 👋

[ocean gazelle]

Best python code editor?

[vocal basin]

ed

https://zed.dev/
https://theia-ide.org/

[ocean gazelle]

I am so enthusiastic about learning python libraries
Do I need to start the backend django or data science python libraries what you pefer

[vocal basin]

consider not defaulting to just learning Django

there are way more other better frameworks

[ocean gazelle]

I know express js

[somber heath]

@opaque coral 👋

[ocean gazelle]

But I like writing code in python

[vocal basin]

aiohttp is probably closest to express

quite low level

[opaque coral]

[vocal basin]

(not even really a framework, more like a library)

[ocean gazelle]

Can someone explain to me what microservices are

[vocal basin]

https://martinfowler.com/articles/microservices.html

decomposing your application via long-lived processes rather than method or subprocess calls

each service should ideally represent some sort of isolated context thing

[ocean gazelle]

You mean for a website it's pages ?

[vocal basin]

it's usually not separated by page

however you might sometimes see different services be responsible for different subdomains

[vocal basin]

(however it might be, sometimes)

[whole bear]

hey

@somber heath hey

[ocean gazelle]

You mean one part of the backend by render and other supabase like that?

[vocal basin]

in such model, usually, you wouldn't share a database between services

[vocal basin]

depending on the definition, database that's responsible for a service's storage, is considered either part of that service, or separate service, or external to the system as a whole

supabase is a third-party external service

[ocean gazelle]

How do I explore these
In a project?

Recommend one project to start with please

[vocal basin]

step 0: install docker

if you want to learn microservice architecture specifically, avoid the cloud for a while

those are somewhat different models

[vocal basin]

or only limit cloud usage to container deployments

no cloud database service, no cloud queues, etc.

[ocean gazelle]

Ok only using docker?

[ocean gazelle]

Recommend one project please

[vocal basin]

currently trying to find if there are some microservicable projects on nedbat's list

something that involves multiple users is probably one of those things that might force you to adopt microservice approach for certain parts

e.g. you might want to have realtime interactions and some sort of more static data be handled separately

[somber heath]

@winged patio 👋

[vocal basin]

find some website that you can query data from over API (the source data is just some latest value or whatever, without stats),
then make a discord bot that allows you to query statistics over some period of time

when you do that, you will likely find reasons to split that into multiple separate processes

[brisk bridge]

hi

[somber heath]

@livid osprey 👋

[vocal basin]

resulting thing may follow a microservice architecture, or it might just be a bunch of processes occupying a very shared environment

[ocean gazelle]

Do these concepts come in system design?

[winged patio]

Check request

Or dm me

[somber heath]

I prefer to have conversations in public channels.

What would you like to talk about?

@winged patio

[vocal basin]

this is very basic system design

[icy raptor]

sorry

[ocean gazelle]

Any resource for system design ?

[icy raptor]

to loud

[vocal basin]

https://martinfowler.com/

and just random tech talks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvUdvte1V3s

[icy raptor]

It's noisy here because it's raining sorry

[vocal basin]

I think it didn't come through the mic

it might've muffled the voice a bit because of how noise suppression works

[icy raptor]

oh yea

[vocal basin]

Krisp, in the state it was in 2021, made my voice inaudible

and I still have it turned off

[icy raptor]

thank you for the information

[vocal basin]

(not that I speak often)

my yawns do sound like that

(i.e. it's a normal sound for me to make)

3 KHz

iirc

[icy raptor]

ohh

ok

[vocal basin]

it might've been under a spoiler, so you were "warned"

the high ones are quite safe

medium and low are more prone to accidental damage

[vocal basin]

excessively loud

[icy raptor]

ohhh, i just knew that

[vocal basin]

I'm in a small room where it resonates so much that it actually hurts the ears if not restrained

one of the few things I can do other than programming

[icy raptor]

0o0

[vocal basin]

I should learn how to go below 40Hz

so I can claim 7 octave range of sound

"reasonably safe" doesn't sound safe enough for a guideline

[whole bear]

hallal mode

rn dudes

[vocal basin]

and why does it have an extra L

[whole bear]

no this abstract hallal as a wod

word means permitted

[vocal basin]

ah

[vocal basin]

access control

[whole bear]

yeh

like that

haram means prohibited

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/403

not allowed

[whole bear]

haram

detected

yeh

dead by you found it like that not hunted

[vocal basin]

dead of non-human causes

[whole bear]

and you must not be aflicting unesecerry pain

cus that will be sinfull

same same

but different but still same

[vocal basin]

@tacit crane

[whole bear]

is it a great idea to use onionmail

[vocal basin]

it's way more generic in this sense than fashion as a trend

[vocal basin]

the only thing you get is Tor's circuitry when accessing .onion mirror

Twitter and Facebook used to have Tor mirrors too

[whole bear]

onionmail

[vocal basin]

.org

[whole bear]

yes

[vocal basin]

don't use .org if you care

[whole bear]

why

[vocal basin]

you don't get the onion part

that's the whole point

[icy raptor]

i have to leave

[vocal basin]

@tacit crane non-commercial

[whole bear]

no the privacy part no phone num

[icy raptor]

bye

i want to update my discord

[vocal basin]

@tacit crane I think it's on take-down-request basis not allow to register

not sure though

[vocal basin]

use .onion if you're worried about privacy

there is literally a .onion link on the front page

@tacit crane not layered

I wonder how they're doing .onion if they're proxied by Cloudflare

https://developers.cloudflare.com/network/onion-routing/

Availability
Availability Yes Yes Yes Yes

funny section

why not just write "all plans"

Cloudflare is a somewhat mixed experience

they only recently stopped overly blocking access to websites

(based on IPs and whatever else)

also their business practices are questionable

Sales "Trust and Safety" department

[somber heath]

@quartz oracle 👋

[quartz oracle]

ji

hi

why cant i stream

ok

is there any games published

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[quartz oracle]

i dont have a microphone so there is no reason to verify

[whole bear]

......

[craggy vale]

hello

[whole bear]

no hello

[craggy vale]

?

[whole bear]

?

[craggy vale]

??

[whole bear]

??

[craggy vale]

???

[whole bear]

?*3

[craggy vale]

?????

[whole bear]

?*6

[craggy vale]

??????

[whole bear]

?*12

[craggy vale]

?????????????

[whole bear]

?*24

[craggy vale]

????????????????????????

[whole bear]

?*48

[craggy vale]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????

[whole bear]

?*162

[craggy vale]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

huh?

[whole bear]

?huh

:trollface:

[craggy vale]

it's just a fun man

[whole bear]

a fouun

[craggy vale]

what

[whole bear]

🤓 ☝️

[craggy vale]

ok bye

[whole bear]

lol

jk with you

[craggy vale]

oh

oh

[whole bear]

i was jocking not mocking you

[craggy vale]

hhaha

[whole bear]

i was just trying to see youre reaction

[craggy vale]

oh

[whole bear]

to different methods of pranking

thats all

[craggy vale]

yeah haha

[somber heath]

@whole harness 👋

[whole bear]

parrallélopipéde

[keen tendon]

haha lol

heyyy guys

whats up

[whole bear]

@fluid wagon Hi

English please

[upbeat bobcat]

Hey!

How are you doing?

[upbeat bobcat]

then which part did you look?

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-golden-siren-love-death-robots-sexy-dance-sensual-dance-gif-25781620

[upper basin]

!e

for i in range(0, -1, 1):
  print(i)

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[primal shadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1n37jgq/full_video_of_the_grappler_device_being_used_to/

[upbeat bobcat]

How are you @primal shadow ?

Nice!

[vocal basin]

@willow garnet this text channel

[peak depot]

Time to sleep, see ya

[wise cargo]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[vocal basin]

this time failing even with a VPN

now connected

data structures

a lot of them

Tries, AVL trees, and stuff that mixes them

mostly things implemented on top of https://docs.rs/slab

yes, there is a specific usecase

I already made a good enough implementation

however it's suboptimal

@wind raptor it's closer to a quad tree in how it works

it is balanced

just in a different way

AVLs are height-balanced

there also exist weight-balanced trees

B-Trees are also quite great

not just height-balanced: all leaves have the same exact depth

and their derivatives

B-Trees, Tries and LSM Trees are main bases for databases from what I've seen

https://docs.rs/sled uses Trie+LSM iirc

or something that's similar to how LSM behaves

so derived from LSM

KV store

which optimises keys with common prefixes

so you can model structured data with it

sadly no way to easily have a range query inside a transaction

need to do some extra manipulation to make that possible

you kind of need to range-query outside the transaction, then query inside the transaction again to ensure consistency

the problem there is that you might miss some keys

there is no way via transaction to ensure that there is no entry between two keys

so you might want to make a doubly-linked list through your stored data

doubly linked lists with something other than actual pointers emulating pointers are very powerful

[vocal basin]

this already keeps them sorted

but you can only get the next value outside the transaction

[vocal basin]

so what you'd do there to find minimal key larger than x:
without a transaction, find such key,
get the minimum between it and the lowest key you wrote during this transaction,
query it inside the transaction (asserts that it exists),
then get the linked previous one,
assert it's equal to or smaller than x

so querying outside the transaction there is just an optimisation so that you don't have to walk the entire linked chain

https://systemsdistributed.com/

[teal crystal]

Hi guys

anyone know how to work with pyo3 + async

[vocal basin]

it has that built-in

with a feature flag

or you can make a custom integration layer with eventfd, it's not that hard

which is what I did

[vocal basin]

on what OS?

async stuff isn't 100% portable

e.g. you won't have eventfd on Windows

[teal crystal]

i dont think its specific to os only
for now, working on windows

[vocal basin]

yeah, that is problematic

[zinc rivet]

Hi! I am having some problems with some code. I was wondering if you guys could help?

[vocal basin]

((corrected: not supported on Windows))

try the built-in support

[teal crystal]

i want to send data between python and rust asynchronously without blocking the python event loop for longer coz it needs to do other tasks too in python

[wise loom]

you don't have the code?

[vocal basin]

maybe just use callbacks?

https://pyo3.rs/v0.26.0/ecosystem/async-await
https://pyo3.rs/v0.26.0/async-await

[wise loom]

i remember when i had problems with some code but i didn't have the code..
it was so hard to fix it..

[zinc rivet]

no I have it I just wanted to ask permission because it seemed like you were already having a conversation

[wise loom]

so you didn't want to interrupt, how polite

[teal crystal]

i dont know, can you give some idea
hey, using callback, wont it block python event loop?

[zinc rivet]

I am trying to download Pillow on my mac, but it keeps giving me this error code. @wise loom

[vocal basin]

for sending data to Rust, you can use blocking code if you aren't concerned with limiting queue size

for receiving, pass a callback to Rust that put_nowaits into an asyncio.Queue

which you await get from on Python's side

[zinc rivet]

@wind raptor do you know why? IDK you just repeated it out loud so I thought you might have an idea.

[vocal basin]

this involves loop.call_soon_threadsafe

[vocal basin]

what mac are you using?

you might need this command

instead of x86_64

if it's a new mac

[zinc rivet]

it is a newer mac

[teal crystal]

for now, priority is to send events from python to rust without blocking the python event loop and as soon as rust gets event, it will do its work based on event type
i am new to pyo3, so dont know much

[vocal basin]

you don't need all three

only one of two platforms

1 and 3 or 2 and 3

[zinc rivet]

oh ok. idk I just found a minesweeper bot on github and I want to figure out how it works lol.

[vocal basin]

https://docs.rs/flume

with this, you create an unbounded queue

and try_send or send on Python's side

non-async

both of those should be near instant

with an unbounded queue

on Rust's side, you do whatever you choose

[vocal basin]

why would you need PIL for that

[zinc rivet]

I can send you the bot I found if you want. Idk anything ab python.

[vocal basin]

(as in see rule 5 if this involves something like minesweeper.online where bots are against the rules)

[zinc rivet]

https://github.com/danielchang2002/MinesweeperBot

[vocal basin]

yeah, very grey area

[zinc rivet]

ah no I was going to do it on a non-online platform, specifically scratch

I have been trying to make a minesweeper bot using just scratch code and wondered how it worked in python

[vocal basin]

solving the board is fine to discuss; OCR and input automation parts aren't

at least in this context

[zinc rivet]

also are you saying I should replace the x86_64 with the code you gave me or just delete the x86_64

[vocal basin]

you also made a typo/didn't copy the whole third command

[vocal basin]

I wonder if it'll work on the PvP minesweeper (since I can obtain permission to mess with it)

[zinc rivet]

ah yes in that one I did but i tried it 6 times with it spelt correctly trying to troubleshoot myself.

but should I just replace the x86_64 or delete it entirely

[vocal basin]

(missing an e)

[zinc rivet]

Wait we got a new error code

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor what are you opinions on this matter

from what I understand it's not specific to some version

but not sure

readme isn't clear enough on where it may work

probably okay unless it's specifically targeted at minesweeper.online and whatever

[zinc rivet]

yeah that is not what I am trying to do. I just find python intersting and want to learn what the code does.

I also just wanna see how quick I can make it by improving the code.

also I will only be using it on Scratch.mit.edu on my own version of minesweeper so

I know a bit of python but just looking it up and figuring out what each thing does should work ig? idk i feel like it would be fun and I would rather do anything than homework rn

[vocal basin]

would be interesting to have a separate instance specifically for bots

[zinc rivet]

thats true. I think it would be fun for people to share the code they used to make it so fast.

[wind raptor]

!stream 1301206198787506297

[wise cargo]

✅ @cerulean minnow can now stream until <t:1756507813:f>.

[zinc rivet]

@cerulean minnow do you have any idea what would work for my problem?

[vocal basin]

stop

[zinc rivet]

ah its not like were gonna dox you. i've been doxxed enough

[vocal basin]

why is it still in courses

[zinc rivet]

?

[vocal basin]

using namespace std; is an anti-pattern

common mistake

[zinc rivet]

honestly no idea what that means. I am still very new to python lol

[vocal basin]

it's C++

not Python

[zinc rivet]

ohhh

[zinc rivet]

also could you help me with this new error code?

[vocal basin]

you're running Python code in zsh

[wind raptor]

!stream 1301206198787506297

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor apparently on some servers it is a rule break

[wise cargo]

✅ @cerulean minnow can now stream until <t:1756508221:f>.

[vocal basin]

which is a bit weird

[zinc rivet]

what does that mean?

[vocal basin]

yes

[zinc rivet]

oh wait nvm I remeber now

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor vague thoughts of that someone else might think someone's name visible in the server justifies them publishing some else's name

[zinc rivet]

how do I run the python code in the terminal?

@wind raptor

[vocal basin]

like the rule writers might've thought that having no real information might further disincentivise sharing others' info

idk

[wind raptor]

bit of a stretch imo

[vocal basin]

well, yes, of course it is

https://cppreference.com/

[zinc rivet]

do you know how to run my python code in the mac terminal? I know you go "python3" to open it, then I pasted it, but how do I run it?

[vocal basin]

@cerulean minnow useful resource for C/C++

[vocal basin]

python3, write code, press enter to run

[zinc rivet]

when I press enter it just makes a new line

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor "bold of you to assume 'searching YouTube' is even a valid phrase given how broken the 'search' procedure is"

[wind raptor]

you don't run the raw code directly in the terminal shell.

[vocal basin]

-c

[zinc rivet]

what do I do then?

[wind raptor]

nobody does this 🤣

[vocal basin]

useful in CI/scripts

[wind raptor]

fair

[wind raptor]

You run the entire script using python3 scriptname.py

[vocal basin]

ed script.py
# do your edits
python3 script.py

[zinc rivet]

should I just download a python launcher?

[vocal basin]

the what

[wind raptor]

?

[vocal basin]

py launcher is a windows thing

[vocal basin]

it took me way too long to realise that this was a context-relevant reply to what I wrote

whether intentional or not

[wind raptor]

lol

[vocal basin]

M-x ed

[grand lion]

?

[zinc rivet]

can someone please explain to me like I am a two year old I do not understand at all

how do I make a .py file?

what?!?!?!?!

[vocal basin]

regular text file

with a .py extension

[zinc rivet]

so do I just use text edit, paste my code, save it, then rename it to have a .py at the end?

[vocal basin]

@wise loom 90% players quit before they win big

[vocal basin]

normally you'd directly save it with the correct name

rather than renaming

what text editors do you have installed?

[zinc rivet]

so when I save it I just put.py at the end?

just the basic TextEdit

[vocal basin]

@supple summit 👋

[supple summit]

hiya

[vocal basin]

"time to rename yourself to Alisa, so we're back to the count of 4" (one of the four renamed themselves to Tau)

[zinc rivet]

it automatically puts a .rtf after the name

[vocal basin]

RTF isn't just a text file

while it is generally textual, it's not plain text

[vocal basin]

Sublime/VSCode/Vim/Nano

that type of stuff

[wind raptor]

Get VS Code if you want a recommendation

[zinc rivet]

k 1 sec

[vocal basin]

or Zed
or Theia

[zinc rivet]

so I have the .py file, and I pasted the code you gave me into the terminal, but it says it can't find it. Is that because I pu it in a folder?

[wise loom]

i think soon enough we'll be wearing robes with hoods to cover our faces and carry lit candles in the dark..

and also wearing a tinfoil on the top of the hoods..

🕯️

[zinc rivet]

I am not in the VC what is happening lmao

[vocal basin]

@supple summit meanwhile "big people" we get here: pharma bro stock market fraudster

[supple summit]

lmaoo

[cerulean minnow]

https://youtu.be/wzamOZ4B630?si=6exQ2DEkQ2GMrrkS

[vocal basin]

multitasking: fuck up multiple things concurrently

[heavy zenith]

I only have one core

I only work with a scheduler

[vocal basin]

even on a single core, there exists pipelining

[pallid hazel]

PostgreSQL suggestions?
thinking of trying psycopg, currently moving from mysql due to a heavy usage of json ..

[heavy zenith]

esp-idf-style

[vocal basin]

I don't remember any other than psycopg

will you be involving ORM or not?

[pallid hazel]

no, ORM ..

[vocal basin]

random hacker basement in Norilsk

[vocal basin]

MySQL also doesn't have UNNEST and similar things afaik

[vocal basin]

from what I understand, very painful to mass-insert

[vocal basin]

name and context reminded of zeronet

and purplesyringa's involvement in it specifically

[pallid hazel]

meh, I was just reading up on accessing the json data in side cells and postgres i guess can do it natively .. so might aswell move to it.

[vocal basin]

(through whose blog I learned of zeronet)

one day possibly people will look at others' profiles before referring to them

but not sure

honeypot usually means letting the actor do what they think they intended to do in the first place

I've just remembered a random conversation about that

#voice-chat-text-0 message

(Chris was already there for that discussion I think)

beemilitarised bzzzzone

I really did just look up "bee onomatopoeia" on Google

@heavy zenith what context is in that, again?

HMAC is mostly for mitigating attacks against stream cipher

@heavy zenith DH

nowadays usually ECDH

ECDHE

(ephemeral)

iirc

Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman Ephemeral

[versed flint]

you just pasted straight in terminal?

you might wanna learn the basics of programming and computers

tbh

[zinc rivet]

yeah thats what i'm trying to do.

[versed flint]

you cant just paste in terminal becuz terminal is bash or powershell i think

so like

say python in terminal

[vocal basin]

@supple summit the maths isn't actually that complicated

[versed flint]

then stuff will come up

then paste

[vocal basin]

it's one of the simplest algos

!e

mod = 111752107048680789472359852153059703717179877363521175193099
base = 65537
alice_private = 981699914582063647901876862143
bob_private = 183038251131900428689478253883
alice_public = pow(base, alice_private, mod)
bob_public = pow(base, bob_private, mod)
alice_secret = pow(bob_public, alice_private, mod)
bob_secret = pow(alice_public, bob_private, mod)
print(alice_secret)
print(bob_secret)