like there are just binaries you can wget
#voice-chat-text-0
late gulch
https://github.com/zabbix/zabbix
This agent. How exactly is it supposed to be installed?
calm heron
there is the instructions depending on the distro
you wget the repo and put it in apt list sources if you're on ubuntu
then update and install with apt
you configure the zabbix config on the client to point it to the server then setup the IP or hostname on the server
late gulch
Awesome π
somber heath
@smoky comet π
smoky comet
i cant talk cuz i have no permission :(
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
smoky comet
i see
somber heath
@vagrant pecan π
vagrant pecan
Hi
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
last ingot
Remember I tried to verify my self
Says im not hwre more then 10 mins
Ues
We're u excited when u got verified to talk?
Wow
Thats not fair
Well take my feedback its not good
Aha
I mean I prefer the voice instead of the words
π¦
Yes talking alot has its bad as well
Lol
I might just become a voice tester and call it quits
Texter
Dont get me wrong I support it π―
Yeah I mean who is going to wait that long
Lol
Only a person who wanted to learn
I done my first 9
Let me back later to another 9 min
fluid wagon
@somber heath
@somber heath
@somber heath
i wan halp
bro wait
I just learned the basics of coding, but Iβm not sure what to do next. Iβd really appreciate it if you could give me some advice or suggest what I should focus on now.
@somber heath
@somber heath
@somber heath
hhhhhhhhhhhh
my bad
thats make sens
yeah yeah ok
thanks bro
peak depot
Spamming opals name wont help anyone. Voicechats are mainly off topic and there are help channels for helping. #1035199133436354600 for example
fluid wagon
Spamming opals name wont help anyone. Voicechats are mainly off topic and there ...
i already have voice chat
but i have 14 day band
thanks bro @somber heath
haughty pier
somber heath
@daring totem π
daring totem
I don't have speaking perms. so adios
somber heath
I don't have speaking perms. so adios
You're welcome to still hang out with us and listen. You can type text.
daring totem
You're welcome to still hang out with us and listen. You can type text.
no thanks
fast sparrow
Hey
somber heath
I don't have speaking perms. so adios
!voice
wise cargoBOT
haughty pier
https://tenor.com/view/extrovert-gif-21093614
it's so much more fun when they're howling in protest as you drag them off to have an adventure
somber heath
@faint raft π
faint raft
<@716908646340231169> π
Hi
haughty pier
@somber heath https://www.thefreedictionary.com/whift
whole bear
does anyone of you have a good backend project in flask, I'm switching to python!
craggy vale
meow
obsidian dragon
hi
winter bane
hasty stump
Hi, guys.
mellow karma
hello
somber heath
@naive hedge @native finch π
naive hedge
<@1119263227843452980> <@525752166749831171> π
π
brisk marsh
@tacit crane are you guys talking about feelancing? or a startup?
@winter bane do you have any particular goal with ai?
eternal ether
neat socket
wsg
hidden mesa
hi
warm kraken
what's a non conductive headset ?
somber heath
@tender hamlet π
somber heath
what's a non conductive headset ?
Bone conductive.
Sits outside of the ears but resting on the head where the bone is close to the skin.
@vital crown π
warm kraken
π
warm kraken
hi @vital crown
vital crown
hi <@843776802618081280>
DO U KNOW ABOUT THE CODE JAM ??
warm kraken
yes i know
vital crown
yes i know
CAN U TELLL ME ABOUT IT BRO I WANNA DO IT
warm kraken
i have no experience with it actually
vital crown
vocal basin
I haven't played Space Engineers in quite a while
rugged root
https://shokz.com/pages/openrunpro2
That's the headset I use now
vocal basin
uiua
JDSL
@last ermine btw, do be aware that stating that you want to record people in VC will actually get you voice banned
there have been precedents
last ermine
what are you even talking about
winter bane
I haven't played Space Engineers in quite a while
Its a good game
vocal basin
just over 500 hours spent on it
peak depot
dry jasper
Python everywhere
hollow haven
what's up?
peak depot
@inland thicket keeps channel hopping to troll us
lethal rune
chilly wolf
amber raptor
vocal basin
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3453500/Drone_Academy/
that one game that recruits kids into the army π
iirc
or not
I have no fucking clue anymore
but
vocal basin
that one game that recruits kids into the army π
there is such game
dry jasper
yes i have heared about that
i wanted to check it out
its starts but i cant fly π¦
i think you need a controller for it, while it shows the keyboard buttons in the settings
vocal basin
@dry jasper all the time
mostly that rather than normal non-continuations
like a persistent other universe
vocal basin
when does pyweek challenge start?
seems to be 21th of September;
meanwhile what's currently happening is Code Jam
primal shadow
Of course as soon as I get back to my phone you leave. Whoever you were.
wise loom
@primal shadow your mic is working ποΈ
hasty stump
But I can't talk, because of the 9 active blocks.
Yhea.
There is this rule.
I need to be active for at least 9 blocks of 10 minutes each, in order to be able to open my mic.
Can you share the code?
tough adder
hasty stump
What's happening when you Run this code?
tough adder
deep garden
how do i get voice verified?
somber heath
how do i get voice verified?
!voice
wise cargoBOT
wise loom
holy s, this escalated quickly
deep garden
School doesnt hold records after a couple years
by law they have to destroy records.
differed by state.
Also, not to mention; that the federal goverment only supports schools, AND pulls records for beneficiaries. that may need assistance.
unique wyvern
somber heath
Have you pressed the button?
somber heath
What criteria have you yet unfulfilled?
last ingot
I already get that in my life
And wouldn't want to here as well
:/
I finally passed
wind raptor
@urban abyss the convo has moved onto talking about GUI frameworks
last ingot
Woooooooot
somber heath
Now leave voice chat and rejoin.
unique wyvern
view [
panel navy 40x15 draw [
pen off fill-pen black box 5x4 36x10
fill-pen pewter pen black box 4x3 35x9
pen red text 15x3 "Hello Red"
][
origin 5x5
rich-text 30x1 pewter data [
green "Welcome" yellow " to" red " Red "
u "TUI" /u blue " World!"
]
return
pad 12x1 button 4 "<OK>" [print "Hi!"]
]
]
Hey @stuck furnace π
somber heath
Why are ghosts such bad sports? ||They're always booing everyone.||
urban abyss
stuck furnace
I think pylance is closed source, but pyright is open source
Pyright is the type-checker part of pylance
somber heath
@tough adder It's not causing any issues, but your mic looks like it's stuck open.
Leave it alone or don't. You're good either way.
vocal basin
@unique wyvern no flags
another thing I noticed: timer start is a bit off, it should be the first click not game (re)start
tough adder
import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import ttk
window = tk.Tk()
window.title("Stock Simulator")
window.geometry('1280x600')
window.iconbitmap(r"C:\Users\maxka\MissionBit\StockSimulator\Assets\MB.ico")
background = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="grey")
background.pack(fill='both', expand=True)
graphFrame = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="white")
graphFrame.place(relx=0.3, rely=0.06, relwidth=0.69, relheight=0.9)
label = tk.Label(graphFrame, text="Money", font=("Vast Regular", 14))
label.place(relx=0.02, rely=0.06, relwidth=0.27, relheight=0.17)
buy_button_border = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="#D9FF00")
buy_button_border.place(relx=0.02, rely=0.06, relwidth=0.27, relheight=0.17)
buy_button = tk.Button(buy_button_border, text="Buy", bg='green', font=("Vast Regular", 14))
buy_button.pack(fill="both", expand=True)
sell_button_border = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="white")
sell_button_border.place(relx=0.02, rely=0.26, relwidth=0.27, relheight=0.17)
sell_button = tk.Button(sell_button_border, text="Sell", bg='red', font=("Vast Regular", 14))
sell_button.pack(fill="both", expand=True)
option_button_border = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="white")
option_button_border.place(relx=0.02, rely=0.46, relwidth=0.27, relheight=0.30)
option_button = tk.Button(option_button_border, text="Option", bg="#FF8EF6", font=("Vast Regular", 14))
option_button.pack(fill="both", expand=True)
option_button_border = tk.Frame(window, highlightthickness=2, highlightbackground="black", bg="white")
option_button_border.place(relx=0.02, rely=0.79, relwidth=0.27, relheight=0.17)
option_button = tk.Button(option_button_border, text="Custom", bg="#65CEFF", font=("Vast Regular", 14))
option_button.pack(fill="both", expand=True)
window.mainloop()
wise loom
```py
import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import ttk
wind...
gpt generated?
wise loom
look at PyQt and PySide if you want more than what tkinter can offer
gilded dome
hey can i have some help please:)
wind raptor
look at PyQt and PySide if you want more than what tkinter can offer
I jumped straight to Pyside instead of trying to learn tk when I was starting out
It was much nicer and easier to make things look good
Plus it comes with a visual designer - "designer.exe" in the lib folder
urban abyss
Pyside is probably the best, but I still hated it - I just want to write HTML w/ Python at this point
primal shadow
gilded dome
i cant download python from the website because i am trying to make a simple game with something like ursina if i could have some help that would be great thanksβοΈ
wise loom
I jumped straight to Pyside instead of trying to learn tk when I was starting ou...
that was a good decision.
because tkinter actually stems from tk/tcl, which are both ancient.
i think the only reason tkinter is still popular among people learning python is because it's built into the standard library.
wind raptor
Pyside is probably the best, but I still hated it - I just want to write HTML w/...
Yeah, once I learned web dev, that was the obvious choice
But if you only know Python, Pyside is my fav
vocal basin
there are tabs
urban abyss
Yeah, once I learned web dev, that was the obvious choice
JS is terrible in its own way, but nothing beats the portability of HTML
vocal basin
there are tabs
in the Selenium docs
primal shadow
https://sqlpad.io/tutorial/beginners-guide-python-turtle/ This one looks interesting too
gilded dome
can i have help downloading pyhon from the official website
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> SmallTalk style MVC or the wrong MVC?
important side note: abstraction and separation are very different things
wise loom
can i have help downloading pyhon from the official website
what have you tried?
wind raptor
JS is terrible in its own way, but nothing beats the portability of HTML
Yeah, but it has so much more built into GUI development than anything Python would give.
gilded dome
i downloaded the file but it dosent work and idk why?
wise loom
i downloaded the file but it dosent work and idk why?
requires more details. if there are errors, please provide error messages. screenshots would work too.
gilded dome
wise loom
you need to run the installer as administrator i think.
gilded dome
how do i do that?
wise loom
how do i do that?
right click it, run as admin
gilded dome
should i or should i not add it to path?
wind raptor
should i or should i not add it to path?
always add to path
vocal basin
@unique wyvern pygame isn't really a game engine
wise loom
should i or should i not add it to path?
for a beginner, defaults are good enough
vocal basin
it's kind of a rendering library
wise loom
but i think it adds to path by default
vocal basin
very simple one
gilded dome
ok tysm βοΈ
vocal basin
you need something that manages game objects' and assets' lifecycle for it to be considered a game engine iirc
molten tulip
I gotta head out
gilded dome
thank you guys i have been trying to figure this out for about 4 days now
somber heath
vocal basin
I finally found that gif of the very aggressively biting turtle
unique wyvern
urban abyss
vocal basin
assume ffplay exists
if it doesn't, user problem
gilded dome
how do i install ursina?
vocal basin
!pypi ursina
wise cargoBOT
primal shadow
pip install ursina?
vocal basin
pip install ursina or uv add ursina
gilded dome
in cmd?
hasty stump
Yes.
gilded dome
thanks π
vocal basin
I finally found that gif of the very aggressively biting turtle
TIL those turtles have some weird way of luring fish
hasty stump
You are welcome.
vocal basin
do not re-export * imports
if you do, PyCharm will hate you so much
and pyright maybe too
I think they're also fine when importing from a parent package or adjacent subpackage
like for internal stuff
vocal basin
I think they're also fine when importing from a parent package or adjacent subpa...
(Rust has that with use super::*, Python has similar with from . import * or something like that)
@unique wyvern didn't it get removed?
nvm it's not even deprecated
something else was
@unique wyvern audioop is the one that got removed
@wind raptor never read patents
wind raptor
<@373121697957543946> never read patents
I do know this rule
wind raptor
Nice
vocal basin
!pep 594
wise cargoBOT
gilded dome
i feel like my python looks wierd
vocal basin
https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/mm.html
https://docs.python.org/3/library/mm...
dropped from 9 to 2
gilded dome
the words dont change color and i think its broken
vocal basin
openSUSE doesn't come with h265/h264 iirc
or just h265
and no way to install officially
so need to Docker the VLC
gilded dome
the tutorials i follow tell me do do things that my python with ursina cant
i need help please 
unique wyvern
vocal basin
it's not
it's just a crate with 200M downloads
less than futures's 300M
which I had to contribute to because something was too broken
gilded dome
i really need help
vocal basin
less than `futures`'s 300M
Rust
vocal basin
which I had to contribute to because something was too broken
version with that one line hack I had to do
it's sane
just not trivial
it composes well
you can use several runtimes in the same program
async itself is part of the language
it produces something that implements a single method, poll
something like this
def poll(self, wake: Callable[[], None]) -> Ready[Output] | Pending: ...
or SALT
unique wyvern
vocal basin
Ρoding
gilded dome
i need help i think my python is broken please help me
gilded dome
when i follow tutorials the people will do things that my python cant so
like whemn i type in my words they dont change colors
or if i put a bracket it dosent do the otherone
i am in the newest pythone
using windows powershell
what should i use?
wind raptor
unique wyvern
REPL
gilded dome
ok and will it automaticly link to my pythone ?
wind raptor
ok and will it automaticly link to my pythone ?
vscode should pick it up
gilded dome
you can just call me jmall if you want to
yeah anything works
what6 do i do now that i have it open ?
how do i do that
sorry i am very new to coding
ok thanks
thank you guys soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much super helpfull : )
yeah thank you : )
your dosent?
vocal basin
you can use several runtimes in the same program
if you can just remember that:
futures-core and futures-sink for interfaces,
futures-util for combinators,
futures-channel for channels,
futures-executor for actually running the futures until completion,
futures as a collection of above,
futures-lite as a more lightweight alternative, no Sink support,
async-task as base for building tasks,
async-executor for spawning tasks,
async-channel for channels,
async-io for epoll and blocking on the futures,
async-net for networking,
smol as a collection of above,
async_std is dead, got replaced by smol,
tokio for a full async runtime,
tokio-util and tokio-stream for combinators and compatibility with futures,
flume for the most flexible and easy to use channels,
then it's relatively easy to use
Erlang
it just works in Rust
it's harder to end up with something pathologically broken
seems like they don't have docs?
yet
or not there
unique wyvern
vocal basin
the project I got hired to work on I made largely in an actor-based manner
in Rust
before me it was just spaghetti C++
that never worked to begin with
better than threads
I need it for correctness
makes it doable to scope tasks
and in Rust it's generally more ergonomic than in Python
except for maybe lack of async with
and general exception handling niceties
you just create a local executor
and run it
instead of spawning them locally
there is no event loop
generally
it's executors+reactors most of the time
!d asyncio.TaskGroup
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
async-executor is equivalent to that
or can be used to implement it
it's more like that it guarantees to drop all the tasks when the executor is dropped
yeah, closer to that even
than to task groups
you give a task to an executor to wait on
and all the background tasks run alongside it
for waiting until the first one finishes or errors out, there are other mechanisms
similar to asyncio.gather
(they differ in typing)
for first return, there is a different one
gilded dome
how do i leave the game that i have created
vocal basin
https://docs.rs/futures/latest/futures/future/fn.select_all.html
https://docs.rs...
first one returns uncompleted futures alongside the completed one
vocal basin
https://docs.rs/futures/latest/futures/future/fn.select_all.html
https://docs.rs...
second converts list of futures into a stream
wait no
it converts a list of streams into a single stream
and you can convert a future into a stream with one item
unique wyvern
vocal basin
if you can just remember that:
`futures-core` and `futures-sink` for interfaces...
I like that async-std is finally getting sunset in favour of smol in Rust, instead of competing with tokio
gilded dome
what am i even suppost to do in pthon becasue i have a vision for a game but i know that cant happen now i dont have enough cosing knowlage but idk where to start can someon help me : )
vocal basin
(async-std was kind of a slightly less its-own-world alternative to tokio)
vocal basin
(`async-std` was kind of a slightly less its-own-world alternative to `tokio`)
whereas smol is just a collection of other stuff
iirc it defines only one function itself
spawn
vocal basin
iirc it defines only one function itself
wind raptor
Lots of free resources @gilded dome
vocal basin
https://docs.rs/smol/latest/src/smol/lib.rs.html
https://docs.rs/smol/latest/src...
smol is actually smol
65 lines and 64 lines (including docs, comments and blank)
wind raptor
unique wyvern
wind raptor
Although, I'd say this game dev one is better after you know the basics @gilded dome
vocal basin
Lua is useful for understanding coroutines
vocal basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Gt3Xjd7G8
@tough adder
there is async/await and coroutines
they are related but not equivalent
Python/JS/C# async-await app code looks mostly the same
(there are multiple reasons why I don't include Rust there)
vocal basin
meanwhile Python and Rust have largely similar implementation details
through coroutines and generators
tough adder
sorry @vocal basin it's not u it's me π
vocal basin
Python/JS/C# `async`-`await` app code looks mostly the same
Python/Rust/Lua do coroutines
Lua doesn't involve async-await
@wind raptor and also sometimes too aggressive about unrelated topics
finally back to survivable
tough adder
vocal basin
Lua doesn't involve `async`-`await`
I think Ruby has something similar
gilded dome
why is my ursina not opening
vocal basin
gilded dome
i press run and it dosent : (
vocal basin
https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/master/Fiber.html
actually probably the main reason I even started with Ruby
uh
Ruby being like Rust
threading is so complicated to deal with, compared to async or processes
in Rust it's relatively easy
you just poll the task
like Rust's async logic is split into so many separate pieces
just start with actors
avoid sharing anything unless immutable
glacial knoll
vocal basin
avoid sharing anything unless immutable
no mutexes, only queues
you can do simple actor-ish programming in Python too
if there is a resource, have a task responsible for it
@wind raptor no, you put queues and tasks
mutexes bottlenecks are the last resort
they do exist as underlying implementation primitives for queues
but
it's that case where programming it raw generally leads to incorrectness
if you want to do something for many hours a day, that should involve making something
at least
so you can have objective progress or whatever
and also which doesn't inherently require memorising
@unique wyvern and look around yourself
like regex
vocal basin
like regex
backreferences yourself
urban abyss
vocal basin
I don't do courses or tutorials to learn something
nowadays for me it's almost entirely entertainment first
isn't logo really ancient compared to many languages
1967
what was that program that had constraint solver inside it
around that time
Sketchpad
1963
insane how advanced that one is even for current time
it already by then was multi-model
it uses both function pointers and other approaches
vocal basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_MacMasters_hoax
this one took >10 years to discover
wind raptor
Gotta head out. Cheers π
vocal basin
tough adder
urban abyss
night peeps
somber heath
@gilded dome Bye, then. π
woeful blaze
Hello
somber heath
@cerulean pawn π
haughty pier
Welcome to the Python Chat, where we speak of this and that
Sometimes Python, sometimes not, but only what we like a lot.
somber heath
Welcome to the Python chat
Where we speak of this and that
Sometimes Python, sometimes not
When it is, it's quite a lot.
@jagged dome π
haughty pier
They come and they go
somber heath
@unique tangle π
unique tangle
<@839262012139765781> π
Hello!!!
somber heath
@worthy trellis π
leaden shard
signal pier
hi
signal pier
Outstanding.
i cant talk
lol
i need to text more
ye i saw LOL
dw i can hear u
ty
tho
somber heath
@hidden osprey π
hidden osprey
hello! i still don't have permisson to talk on vc
somber heath
hello! i still don't have permisson to talk on vc
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
hidden osprey
im building raspberry pidog
signal pier
I am watching the 16 hour harvard course on yt
hidden osprey
i need to learn python
signal pier
im building raspberry pidog
cool
hidden osprey
wait who are you talking to
hidden osprey
oh lll
signal pier
he is talk to you
hidden osprey
lol i was confused sorry
wait who
i have finished the hardware
now i have to learn software
nope im just a quick learner
nope
hidden osprey
signal pier
is she a robot dog?
signal pier
are you using a ai model to train her?
hidden osprey
i only have a ipad
signal pier
oh lol
hidden osprey
are you using a ai model to train her?
i will integrate chat gpt for now
signal pier
i will integrate chat gpt for now
ohh nice what type like e.g deepseek?
hidden osprey
i only have a ipad
i dont have a pc yet π¦
hidden osprey
ohh nice what type like e.g deepseek?
whats a deepseek?
signal pier
a ai model/ llm
signal pier
lowkey i got my pc for a good price and it was from facebook marketplace
maybe you should go pc searching on their
hidden osprey
im in between building one or just buying a cheap laptop for know
ive ordered keyboard this week
ugh cant wait
signal pier
niceee
hidden osprey
thanks!
signal pier
i alway want to build my own pc but i never had the budget
what you are doing looks super cool
its kinda like Michael reaves
from youtube
i am going to have to spend alot of time on this server just to speak π€£
hidden osprey
hahaha
signal pier
how did you get into building eletrics?
robotics is probly a better term
lowkey purpose idk but it super cool
no glaze
solemn jasper
can someone guide me how i can manage school with coding ..
hidden osprey
i feel like kits would make me familiar w terms and tools
like a starting point yk
signal pier
yeah
signal pier
can someone guide me how i can manage school with coding ..
like you mean automation school?
hidden osprey
ngl 9 10 min blocks seems impossible and im a talker not a texter
signal pier
ngl 9 10 min blocks seems impossible and im a talker not a texter
i feel the same
hidden osprey
yeah for voice verification
solemn jasper
like you mean automation school?
no like normal school actually here the education system is cooked so i want to learn all by myself but wasn't able to understand what to do just asking if anyone can help
hidden osprey
i feel like im in highschool
hidden osprey
i feel the same
lowkey we be trauma bonding bestie
signal pier
no like normal school actually here the education system is cooked so i want to...
what type just python, if just that python, I would start with harvard cs course on python, its 16 hour so if you have the time and mentality capacity to do it.
signal pier
lowkey we be trauma bonding bestie
ye π
signal pier
what do i do after python
depends on what you trying to use the code for
solemn jasper
you both are in high school ?
hidden osprey
how do people choose
signal pier
you both are in high school ?
nah
hidden osprey
do i have to master python
signal pier
also how about you start learning python π
solemn jasper
do i have to master python
same !!
signal pier
do i have to master python
wel basic stuff no
hidden osprey
hahahah true dat
signal pier
like start with basic of python understanding the rules and just code a bit and see how it feels
hidden osprey
like start with basic of python understanding the rules and just code a bit and ...
nice tip ty
solemn jasper
i want to just get completely friendly with languages so that i can learn any language, idk if i am wrong lol !!
signal pier
i started with youtube and vs code and just watch video while i code
signal pier
im also into cybersecurity
niceee
signal pier
cybersecurity in school or self taught
signal pier
im fully self pace
that is cool
hidden osprey
im fully self pace
lowkey worst and best quality
wait guyssss
i could customize my commands
like for my pidog
signal pier
i cant do teamwork stuff
lowkey if you are self taught. teamwork is the best thing for you. it really show you how much you know and how much you can learn for others.
i have a friend and we just chill in vc and both code and if i have question or somehting i just ask him
hidden osprey
i would love to but i get bored too easily w people
signal pier
i would love to but i get bored too easily w people
u hanging wiith the wrong people π€£
irlandec
u been learning for 6 month right?
what are some highs and low
wow 6 to 8 hours
hidden osprey
12 hours a day whoa
signal pier
i want to do that
solemn jasper
12 hours a day π
signal pier
i need sleep thinking about it
i mean ye u sleep at your desk lol
hidden osprey
i mean ye u sleep at your desk lol
i dont have a desk
signal pier
like you hyperfocus
i want to hyperfocus, but coffe only last for like 30 mins before i am so unfocused
signal pier
i dont have a desk
π
solemn jasper
in my school there they are teaching sql is it worth it to learn sql ????
signal pier
in my school there they are teaching sql is it worth it to learn sql ????
if i could learn it from a school i would
hidden osprey
in my school there they are teaching sql is it worth it to learn sql ????
whats the major
signal pier
alr i am going to go i need to use the restroom
hidden osprey
well i also gtg, nice chat, take care guys
solemn jasper
if i could learn it from a school i would
so like they are just teaching the basics but i am thinking to learn it at a good level ..
yes !!
no no i know the basics
and also in my school i learn java and now in my new school i learned basics of python
but now i am thinking to do it in a good level
no bro i am from india
here education system is cooked i need to do all by myself literally everything
should i learn from youtube
?
or buy a course
?
it sounds funny but i want to make a personal voice ai like jarvis lol
my cousin gift me a course of python "100 days of python " quite time taking but in youtube i can learn the python in 3 - 4 weeks so what do you think which is best
like just asking
ya there they are teaching with projects
solemn jasper
damn did you made this ?
is this a part of robotics ?
thanks bro you helped me a lot somehow you gave me a path so again thnx a lot !!
somber heath
why cant i speak π
!voice
wise cargoBOT
hollow anvil
Hi
vocal basin
attempting to work
(not sure if succeeding)
also watching Tom Scott be repeatedly wrong about knowing things in Finland
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfx61sxf1Yz2I-c7eMRk9wBUUDCJkU7H0
I don't think either of the four are American
vocal basin
also watching Tom Scott be repeatedly wrong about knowing things in Finland
http...
(mostly the first episode)
I still don't entirely get the point of alliances in civ6
I guess I'm more used to how they work in Endless Space 2 and Airships
where you can alliance-win
in that deity game, yeah, I just used it to survive for longer
it worked
somewhat
vocal basin
where you can alliance-win
my first proper game of Airships: Conquer the Skies in the new conquer mode was going to be an alliance win initially
but then I turned it into only-me win
I played with regular rule set
not DLC ones
maximal AI civ count, maximal city state count
on max speed
(250 turns)
marathon is min speed
the opposite
vocal basin
my first proper game of Airships: Conquer the Skies in the new conquer mode was ...
iirc that one was max difficulty
boarding ships was kind of overpowered there after release
(in Airships not Civ)
boarding as in taking over
others' ships
great game but quite a bit of micro-management stuff
need to actually design the airships
then each battle may be manually controlled
somber heath
@obsidian root π
vocal basin
then each battle may be manually controlled
@willow light Campaign for North Airships
obsidian root
hello
Im not voice verified
so.... yeah
yeah
I just joined
gotta wait 3 days?
and actually talk in text chats
somber heath
@late merlin π
obsidian root
Im just playing with jupyterlab, numpy, matplot lib, sympy, etc. so not sure if im gonna meet the requirements anytime soon
lol
peak depot
Well for your joy; this is an off topic voice chat - there are over 30 txt channels where you may talk about python etc. Here we usually chill
obsidian root
yeah, wasn't joining necessarily to talk about python. Just in a certain mood where Im thinking about parametric equations, interpolations, rendering, animating, etc
peak depot
#data-science-and-ml #databases #algos-and-data-structs txt channels
obsidian root
but... I dont have questions. Im just here thinking about it... thats all. And apparently listening to poetry
vocal basin
cartel
obsidian root
im curious. Can insurance companies actually offer any better rates since data for anyone should be the same along with the risk assessments?
I guess services covered could be different changing the risk profiles
or, just go with bs if they don't want to pay
somber heath
@wanton radish π
obsidian root
Giving too high rates will probably piss off a lot of people
wanton radish
hi everyone
obsidian root
Any kind of insurance plan that isn't the straight premium for conditions and pay out create perverse insentives that destroys any good will in system that should be zero
vocal basin
the "past history might make it more expensive" insurance model is wrong for humans
somber heath
@bleak dagger π
peak depot
the "past history might make it more expensive" insurance model is wrong for hum...
they donΒ΄t care about humans, only money
somber heath
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
do not represent money with float
obsidian root
somber heath
@inland spindle π
somber heath
@whole bear π
modest shale
do u play chess @jovial merlin ?
i got 1100 elo
i play with my offline frd
i dont play online\
somber heath
@thorn remnant π
thorn remnant
@somber heath π
wise loom
I'm the King π of Oceania.
woeful blaze
Does anyone know how to work with facial recognition?
wise loom
vocal basin
I think asynchrony and concurrency are way too vague
@upper basin @molten tulip multiprocessing in Python means multiple processes
not threads
and not cores
you can use multiprocessing on a single core
e.g. for non-GIL-releasing non-CPU-heavy blocking
night spoke
@upper basin im sorry, im so terrible at explaining things, and im new at python. how can python regocnize the class that i already made? for ex: i create a class called " chicken" (i put this in file1). and apparently I want to access that in my second file as a variable. how can python detect that variable as a chicken variable? in c sharp i used to write it " public chicken example1"
night spoke
thank you very much
thats understndable
what if in the first method, i prefer it to be "chicken" type variable. and in the second one i change it to int, str, etc.
will this cause an error?
vocal basin
class Chicken:
name: str # optional annotation
def __init__(self, name: str): # required annotation
self.name: str = name
# ^^^^^ optional annotation
class ChickenSet:
def __init__(self, chickens: set[Chicken]):
self.chickens = chickens
"required" as in pyright may be angry otherwise
idk what example there can be when Chicken is just a field
night spoke
consider that i already create a file called "chicken", now i want to use this on my second file so i write it like this.
(this is my second file)
class example:
test1 = None # i want to create a contructor and a method
def init (self, test1 : chicken): #test1= will be recognized as chicken
pass
def example1 (self, test1 : int) #test1 = will be reccognized as int
pass
is this possible? if its possible, why its possible, if not, why? (im so sorry if this question sounds stupid
vocal basin
!code
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
consider that i already create a file called "chicken", now i want to use this ...
that test1 there is not a field
and your test1 in the __init__ is ignored
upper basin
consider that i already create a file called "chicken", now i want to use this ...
That seems like you just using the same parameter name. You can use whatever type you want there.
vocal basin
class Example:
def __init__(self, test1: Chicken | None = None):
self.test1 = test1
def example1(self, test1: int):
# everything is okay because test1 is not assigned to self.test1
pass
you can't use fields just by their name like in C#
you need self.
vocal basin
consider that i already create a file called "chicken", now i want to use this ...
also test1 = None here isn't entirely valid as a default initialiser
vocal basin
```py
class Example:
def __init__(self, test1: Chicken | None = None):
...
updated the example to include the default
!e
class Chicken: ...
class Example:
def __init__(self, test1: Chicken | None = None):
self.test1 = test1
def example1(self, test1: int):
print(test1)
print(self.test1)
Example().example1(1)
Example(Chicken()).example1(2)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1
002 | None
003 | 2
004 | <__main__.Chicken object at 0x7f8b64d22900>
ill try my best to understand thiss, thankyou verymuchh mate
vocal basin
!e
```py
class Chicken: ...
class Example:
def __init__(self, test1: Chicke...
there are three separate test1s here:
Example'stest1field__init__'stest1argumentexample1'stest1argument
night spoke
ahhh
vocal basin
first's type gets inferred from the second
night spoke
python will read it as a different test1?
vocal basin
Python doesn't interpret test1 itself as a field of self, yes
needs to be self.test1
like this.test1 in C#
night spoke
i see
thank you mate, its very overwhelming for me
to switch from csharp to python
vocal basin
most of the patterns from C# are applicable to Python
amber raptor
Why would you switch from C# to Python
night spoke
Why would you switch from C# to Python
my college force me to do python TT
so i try my best to prepare for it
woeful blaze
I know that I'm going to sound like a help vampire what does anyone know how to make a program for facial recognition
vocal basin
vocal basin
I know that I'm going to sound like a help vampire what does anyone know how to ...
either use YOLO directly or study its architecture
they do publish stuff
woeful blaze
Because I'm trying to make something for a school facial recognition I'll make my own I just need to know what to do
night spoke
most of the patterns from C# are applicable to Python
thank god, tysm for helping me π
vocal basin
Because I'm trying to make something for a school facial recognition I'll make m...
step 1: study existing solutions
a thing you might be interested in knowing:
the detection of face itself can be done algorithmically without ML
so you only need to do the more difficult part
night spoke
@vocal basin bro im planning to take data science as my major, do you have any tips?
woeful blaze
Well it feels weird to have students take pictures anytime they get a haircut so I want to make a machine learning model that can detect when the same person but a different haircut
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> bro im planning to take data science as my major, do you h...
(not a bro)
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> bro im planning to take data science as my major, do you h...
even if you focus on data science, do learn the language itself too
knowing the entirety of the tutorial is a minimal requirement
@midnight agate was it success or not or unspecified
secuencepilled
just return sounds like some sort of composite keyword
I've just realised
like do yeet
I also only now read the last sentence
didn't initially notice how confusing "you don't need to implement <...> just return the distance" is
rationale for do yeet was too make it obviously experimental
we don't have a syntax yet, but we have the types for it
concerns separation pill
CSP
night spoke
knowing the entirety of the tutorial is a minimal requirement
thanksss
opaque surge
Hey i guys, i was thinking of making a project on image enhancing web app using nextjs where i think of using SRCNN (super resolution cnn ) for image enhancement.
i have the knowledge of deep learning and created an Bidirectional LSTM model for sentence classification.
so base on my experience, with python could anyone recommand me the better approch of the web app project / or is SRCNN ok for now? @midnight agate
vocal basin
solve the processing part and display part separately
Next.js can call to a Python-based microservice
or just run some process directly
since it's just Node.js
server-side
opaque surge
@vocal basin thank a lot
wind raptor
Hey @chrome dagger π
chrome dagger
Hello
wind raptor
!voice
wise cargoBOT
wind raptor
Yeah, check out the message above
peak depot
full anvil
Nice vibes guys
peak depot
olive hedge
wind raptor
<@233481908342882304> what does BPA stand for?
The chemical?
stray pewter
The chemical?
brake pressure accumulator
wind raptor
@olive hedge Have you seen The Rehearsal season 2 with Nathan Fielder? It's all about air safety and pilots. It's really good!
olive hedge
I have not, maybe I need to check it out!
short owl
kitty snuggles @peak depot
wind raptor
I have not, maybe I need to check it out!
You do!
wind raptor
I have not, maybe I need to check it out!
Not sure if you've seen Nathan Fielder's other stuff like "Nathan For You". He does a deadpan humour that is so good.
rare adder
Hi! I'm Ayush from India. I love science, coding, and making cool projects. Happy to learn and make friends here!
peak depot
wind raptor
Hi! I'm Ayush from India. I love science, coding, and making cool projects. Happ...
Nice to have you in the server!!
alpine zinc
Anyone who wanted to study python together π
wind raptor
Welcome!
lone heart
Thanks @wind raptor
I'm here to learn hacking with python and enterprise level software applications.
anyone with experts in these forum
I'm from my mum's stomach.
that's where I came from.
and I will go to Valhalla when I die and feast with Odin.
@wind raptor Hello brother.
yeah you are right
wind raptor
Hey, so we're not a hacking community, fyi. We talk about securing things, not breaking them haha
wind raptor
General concepts are ok to talk about but not implementations
wind raptor
Thanks! Still happy to have you here. This is an awesome place to learn about Python and talk about (almost) anything related.
lone heart
Kk brother
do you have experience with Tkinter ?
I'm a beginner at it.
I'm good at writing python code.
who is that ?
I want to raise the Kid.
wind raptor
A bit, I jumped straight to PySide/PyQT insteading of going the tk route but I've done a bunch of little things with tk now too.
wind raptor
What are you making?
lone heart
I'm making mini programs with python and tkinter
have yu ever sold a software ?
@wind raptor ?
vocal basin
global keybind for opening steam then civ
hasty stump
@peak depot what time is there?
vocal basin
global keybind for opening steam *then* civ
like how I have a keybind for killing R6S and ubisoft connect
because the shutdown process is so unreasonably long
@amber raptor +3
it's GMT+3
@peak depot wrong save?
@peak depot it is
@peak depot the city state is still independent
wind raptor
I was able to save my frigate
Ulterior motives
wind raptor
This is actually MANY turns behind
peak depot
vocal basin
This is actually MANY turns behind
groundhog day
wise loom
I wrote a general-purpose minimalistic unit testing function:
def test(f,args_,expected):
computed=f(args_)
if computed!=expected:
print(f"failed for {args_}, expected={expected} computed={computed}")
else:
print(f"pass for {args_}")
Now I can test a specific method on an like this:
check_trapezoids=lambda x: (a:=Solution(),a.countTrapezoids(x))[1]
test(check_trapezoids,[[-3,2],[3,0],[2,3],[3,2],[2,-3]],2)
!pypi vampytest
wise cargoBOT
wise loom
nice
vocal basin
Python 3.8 stuff
vocal basin
thirteen-o-five is probably easier to pronounce than one-three-zero-five
there's actually a single x missing
we have some Tesla owner living nearby
and they have "ΡΡΠΎ ΡΠ»Π΅ΠΊΡΡΠΎΠ±ΡΡ." written on it
which is the thing we have written on electric busses
the owner is being funny
Tesla pioneered electric cars, then got enshittified
the exit from quality was very early
they were existent
and for a while did something good with batteries
but now it's just an expensive brand produced cheaply
wise loom
Paper published by Microsoft has a list of jobs that are most likely to be replaced by AI and which are least likely.
Check page 12 and 13 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.07935
Table 3: Top 40 occupations with highest AI applicability score.
Table 4: Bottom 40 occupations with lowest AI applicability score.
whole bear
yo guys wassup
vocal basin
@primal shadow 15-hour city
whole bear
<@221417491136512010> 15-hour city
hay what are you guys talkin about?
@primal shadow just vibe code bro
that's the future
vocal basin
<@221417491136512010> just vibe code bro
this is, like, the worst of coding and not coding
nothing works and you can't do anything about it
wise loom
nothing works and you can't do anything about it
yes but all CEOs and managers want employees to vibe code whenever possible
vocal basin
vibe coding, in the most generous sense, is just a way to cheaply produce discardable code
@rapid iron late 19th century
wise loom
also they have that joker card now "just use AI, just use AI and get it done already, it had to be done yesterday"
primal shadow
vocal basin
there was a quote from late 1800s how America was going to be covered in charging stations
iirc
or maybe early 1900s
also
whole bear
just a few years more all the ai hype will become normal
vocal basin
gas took over ethanol
there was an alternative
even without electricity
corn cars
vocal basin
there was a quote from late 1800s how America was going to be covered in chargin...
I don't remember where I got that from
but I think it was some tech talk
programming-related
whole bear
@vocal basin i don't know why people use coding in vibe coding damn its hell no coding
vocal basin
the idiomatic vibe coding is:
you just look at the result, never look at the code
vocal basin
make, like, 10 prototypes, discard 9, then turn the last one into reality yourself (as in hire a real programmer to do it)
SQL has so many random footguns
but AI doesn't necessarily make it principally worse
useful guideline for writing code with AI:
quote the prompt, link the chat
in a comment
Flutter
(allegedly)
Swift is a good language, except for being Apple-specific
but it's more of a better C++
noway laravel ships with a task queue
okay my opinion on laravel definitely goes up with that one
1 year before Hooks
vocal basin
https://laravel.com/docs/12.x/frontend
by the description, this sounds like tRPC a bit
https://inertiajs.com/
https://livewire.laravel.com/
woohoo broken demos
β mind games
β
mine games https://minesweeper.online/game/4862392727
learning to play by perfect discipline rather than rushing or guessing too much
also it's a braindead game so I can listen to or think about something else
we had quite a bit of rain recently
primal shadow
vocal basin
we had quite a bit of rain recently
