or a route through a map
#voice-chat-text-0
sleek otter
Thailand
raw hedge
what's the question again
vocal basin
@buoyant loom here
sleek otter
roadmap.sh does not really have roadmaps
really? It is not considered a roadmap? the items in there
vocal basin
really? It is not considered a roadmap? the items in there
it's a road
single road
you don't need a map when there's a single road
vocal basin
roadmap has become a rough synonym to "plan" unfortunately
sleek otter
Philipines, Thailand, maybe Vietnam
raw hedge
interesting
sleek otter
Any cool hackerspaces in UK?
vocal basin
tbf I can probably just move North within where I live and it'll be fine too
but I prefer being in the same city as where I work
I should try visiting SpB during winter
for ~two weeks
raw hedge
that's cool
sleek otter
the tubes are cool
I stayed far from central london and I had to get the tube every day
vocal basin
going to work for me involves using both underground and regular train
the latter has a more sparse schedule
which isn't as convenient
me being so spoiled I can't wait more than 2 minutes for the train to arrive
raw hedge
in japan, increase odometer overtime much harder to renew
vocal basin
me being so spoiled I can't wait more than 2 minutes for the train to arrive
25 minutes is too much
wind raptor
in japan, increase odometer overtime much harder to renew
Could you explain this further?
vocal basin
also we have river transport now
raw hedge
the age of the car doesn't matter, but the kilometers/mileages your car run dictate how much you'll pay for registration renewal
vocal basin
also we have river transport now
this is allegedly real
I'm trying to find something that isn't a render
raw hedge
vocal basin
~~this is allegedly real~~
allegedly also these can work during winter
(icebreaker breaks the ice, then these sail through)
vocal basin
the most difficult part now: picking a name
wind raptor
the most difficult part now: picking a name
It is sooo hard
raw hedge
Hey @wind raptor, how many years are you now doing programming?
granite cipher
judging
vocal basin
maximal information overload: whenever pauses in the discussion happen, unpause a podcast/talk/whatever
vocal basin
I don't really engage with YouTube like a social network, just background sound happening
I rewatch content a lot
~60% of what I watch is stuff I already watched
the only reason I ever watch shorts is when it's some specific channel
raw hedge
Hey guys, going to hop off for now! cool stuffs btw!
vocal basin
I kind of contextually schedule what I do with youtube;
how much time can I fill with how much background noise
I really dislike short videos
my threshold for short being somewhere around 50 minutes
there is only one reason I visit home page nowadays which is just always there
I'd rather not try applying plain numerical calculations to time utilisation
it's so difficult to actually quantify
if you're working 12h a day, there is a serious concern that it makes you underperform
finally actually starting the game
I've seen quite a bit
watched my cousin play it
yes
the d-something u-something
so likely that
I don't remember
I didn't customise settings in the end
though I was tempted to disable saves
vocal basin
that makes it me less worried about choices actually
I played Pulsar: Lost Colony in solo on no-save mode
and that was the furthest I ever got
willow loom
Nice!
vocal basin
I played Pulsar: Lost Colony in solo on no-save mode
this was around 20~40h ig
did not die, just abandoned the playthrough
because the game was far from complete yet
I looted the whole map, did everything I could be bothered doing
flying with best upgrades purchasable
willow loom
Im still relatively new to python, made a few smaller project in python, currently learning Django
vocal basin
the game hit the limit of "chaos" value
of 6.0, so basically no steep difficulty increase anymore
chance is another reason why I don't like saves
willow loom
Yes, it is nice, very handy framework, saves a bunch of times. everything interacts quite neatly
vocal basin
rate of spawn, difficulty and general environment hostility
vocal basin
chance is another reason why I don't like saves
games like endless space 2 approach it better
you take a gamble and you only see its results in 10 moves
vocal basin
I played Pulsar: Lost Colony in solo on no-save mode
pulsar got many updates afterwards
those are two separate games
endless space 2 is X4
pulsar lost colony is space crew sim
willow loom
I learned the basic and completed the py4e by Dr. Chuck, before it
vocal basin
pulsar lost colony is space crew sim
used to be unplayable solo
okay I have a very dumb question about BG3: how do I actually select an option using keyboard
willow loom
yeah used alot of stackoverflow before, a few years back when i learned javascript
vocal basin
okay I have a very dumb question about BG3: how do I actually select an option u...
do I really have to click it when using default keybinds
willow loom
Yeah i get that, ive personally tried to avoid LLMs to build like more independent problem solving skills
vocal basin
should I use a controller
or rather confirm not select
how do I add Vim keybinds to BG3
some autocomplete (e.g. auto-adding setters to properties in C#) is actively harmful
granite cipher
I use AI mostly for fixing grammar in comments and coming up with variable names
yeah
willow loom
yeah for some reason i find coming up with suitable variable names quite tricky xD
vocal basin
I care way less about variable names in Rust
because there shadowing is good not bad
in Python you can't safely shadow
willow loom
what games do you play?
willow loom
Nice
lethal rune
i really want to turn on my mic
but i need to wait for 3 days
also
i wrote a book that i didnt even knew i wrote
its called
to be or not to be do be do
vocal basin
💥
lethal rune
today in school for computer practicals we got a question to make a binary file and add records of books as a list the elements were [bno,bname,bID] i think
and my friend made a book called to be or not to be do be do
and the author?
me
he put MY NAME
as the author
willow loom
it would be nice if game companies offered like rent to own options
lethal rune
imma watch startalk
unique wyvern
lol
vocal basin
@wind raptor first attack ever, 95% chance, miss
okay the only attack that enemies made was a miss too
@buoyant loom there is a spam detection for DMs already
it just rarely ever works
there is Revolt
which is more of a Discord clone
with non-functioning video sharing
pastel ridge
sleek otter
what video is this?
pastel ridge
Numerical differentiation engineering mathematics
sleek otter
Numerical differentiation engineering mathematics
nice, numerical calculus is on my study roadmap
we have that in CS course
pastel ridge
pastel ridge
nice, numerical calculus is on my study roadmap
I’m also a CS student
buoyant loom
sleek otter
lol
lethal rune
india?
buoyant loom
Probably
pastel ridge
Yup!!
pastel ridge
Yup..!
lethal rune
lot in common
gleaming locust
im not well practiced in math what are the triangles?
sleek otter
delta
pastel ridge
Forward and backward operators
It also use to denote differentiation
Like triangle square will be two time differentiation
Sorry for the rotation
pastel ridge
Use to find the roots
For quadratic equations
For i in range(0,10):
Print(“hello”)
willow light
gleaming locust
willow light
willow light
granite cipher
this is my config
I can't live without https://github.com/christoomey/vim-tmux-navigator
gleaming locust
willow light
I used to use tmux but I found zellij has sane defaults so I switched
hallow pond
Hello , How can I learn python-telegram-bot ?
I need a recommended resource or something like that 🙂
wind raptor
!stream 685226014237917308
wise cargoBOT
✅ @leaden elm can now stream until <t:1752264457:f>.
granite cipher
why do you talk as if he's not in the VC
alpine crater
👋
wind raptor
!stream 685226014237917308
wise cargoBOT
✅ @leaden elm can now stream until <t:1752264841:f>.
alpine crater
just finishing up refactors 😄
welll, vector stuff might not look the best on lower res.
there a dedicated low-res font will do better
but yhe all tests now green again 😄
that is a screenshot of a allure report generated from a dagger pipeline
frontend framework (in rust)
Now to get my benchmarks up and running again, so I can verify what I hope will be a rather good performance boost
prolly like 10 minutes assuming no strange bugs that take hours to track down
I already have the benchmarks written, I just need to hook up the new CI system to run it
wind raptor
I already have the benchmarks written, I just need to hook up the new CI system ...
Nice
vocal basin
pausing gaming for now
it doesn't, like, get me as confused/anxious as I expected such game to be
I'm totally okay with games which are long because of dialogues
given, well, me playing VNs
wise wing
it doesn't, like, get me as confused/anxious as I expected such game to be
which game?
vocal basin
BG3
vocal basin
given, well, me playing VNs
previous plot-base game I played was a VN
visual novel
interactive literature
alpine crater
yay one of those errors that might take me hours
┃ Error: failed to deserialize Wasm module
┃
┃ Caused by:
┃ 0: failed to parse type section
┃ 1: rec group usage requiresgcproposal to be enabled (at offset 0x43)
hobby
so I have time
vocal basin
previous plot-base game I played was a VN
I don't even remember if I've played any between completing Noctuary and starting that game
not counting games which I opened for 15 minutes and then closed
wise wing
have fun~
vocal basin
I don't think Teardown counts as plot-based even though there is at least some plot happening
way more of simulator stuff
vocal basin
I don't even remember if I've played any between completing Noctuary and startin...
okay, I looked though played history and there was exactly one story-centred game I played between November and ~May
Refind Self
still haven't finished it
I do somewhat have a habit of abandoning playthroughs
alpine crater
Just reporting that a issue that was closed is in fact not fixed
@lavish rover what you watching 🙃
lavish rover
alpine crater
soooo, whats everyone doing?
sleek otter
great
alpine crater
are you using a virtual env?
woeful blaze
yes
alpine crater
are you sure the venv is activatd in both VsCode and the terminal?
woeful blaze
yes i have all of them open
alpine crater
Did you install the stuff while VsCode was open?
Arghhh just realized none of my benchmarks would actually change based on this change, because it is a massive speedup.
because we go from O(N) to O(K) (where K < N, and K is like 2 or 3, and N is like 100, or even 1000), buuuuut in all my benchmarks K = N :/
hmm........ should I do git magic to add a new benchmark earlier in the history so I can go back and see what the performance of that was like
alpine crater
Did you install the stuff while VsCode was open?
@woeful blaze if you did VsCode likely just needs to re-index, just close and re-open it
god I hate that computers are fast
vocal basin
<@1318626588560199692> if you did VsCode likely just needs to re-index, just clo...
normally not necessary to re-open/reload
alpine crater
oh have they gotten better at it?
vocal basin
usually problems come from the wrong interpreter being selected
alpine crater
a few years ago you had to tell it to re-index a venv
vocal basin
oh have they gotten better at it?
in my experience, it's sometimes nearly instant
but tbf I'm using an m.2
alpine crater
I guess they put up a file watch on the site packages dir
vocal basin
but tbf I'm using an m.2
and, more importantly, with all of the relevant files cached in RAM
vocal basin
I guess they put up a file watch on the site packages dir
likely, yes
vocal basin
a few years ago you had to tell it to re-index a venv
fun fact: you can delete activation scripts and it will still activate
even more, it will do so in a more stable manner
by adding env vars when starting up a terminal rather than pasting in a path to the script
vocal basin
fun fact: you can delete activation scripts and it will still activate
until I switched to uv, this was the main way I used venvs
now I just don't activate them
alpine crater
now it should be doing 4 int checks and 3 static accesses. instead of 200 bool checks
it is at a scale of 0.07ms to be fair.
so it might just be a noisy system
vocal basin
various nuances of profiling
there is some tool mentioned which randomises stuff better
alpine crater
but like this should be a lot less expensive, buuuut it might be that most of this time is spent in the js interop
maybe I just need to make the test bigger to get the time up
vocal basin
there is some tool mentioned which randomises stuff better
it might be this thing but I'm not sure https://github.com/plasma-umass/coz
alpine crater
I am benchmarking wasm
tho I suppose with a bit of work I could isolate the reactive system.
vocal basin
maybe I just need to make the test bigger to get the time up
you need to do some intrusive things if you're measuring <10% performance changes
unfortunately
alpine crater
yhe
well, the js interop should be constant, but I can vary the N to be bigger.
waiting on benchmarks is not very fun 😛
from
update large fields (iters: 158): 19.7256ms (with reflow/repaint: 33.33126582283102ms)
update one on large fields (iters: 149): 0.0922ms (with reflow/repaint: 33.33134228186119ms)
to
update large fields (iters: 243): 3.1179ms (with reflow/repaint: 33.31269547320259ms)
update one on large fields (iters: 150): 0.0604ms (with reflow/repaint: 33.33109999999404ms)
okay thats not bad
woeful blaze
request is not up dating
alpine crater
you know I am getting hungry (and it got pretty empty in here)
👋
( @woeful blaze try asking in #1035199133436354600 or #editors-ides )
vestal mason
hey guys
sleek otter
Hi I can't talk
Yes, I think I need some more messages to unlock
That sounds cool
Hello
somber heath
@grand marten 👋
somber heath
Oh, no, I'm the life of the party. When I show up, people are enjoying my company. I'm so sorry, guys.
Mr. Hemlock - More appealing than pizza.
rugged root
Mr. Hemlock - More appealing than pizza.
I want that on a placard
wild walrus
Hii
lethal rune
Guys I'm trying to get some support for astrixe sql
I want to work on it as a team as well
peak depot
Stop calling us 'females'. https://www.eait.uq.edu.au/blog/2023/06/case-for-saying-women
lethal rune
Anyone wanna be my supporters?
peak depot
Anyone wanna be my supporters?
This is txt channel for Voice Channel 0. If you need help, information or contacts I recommend the almost 30 other txt channels that even have topics that might help you like #databases #data-science-and-ml
wise loom
Stop calling us 'females'. https://www.eait.uq.edu.au/blog/2023/06/case-for-sayi...
cool, women it is. did you like the song.
upper basin
A 0 0
0 B 0
0 0 C
1 1 0 0 0 0
1 1 0 0 0 0
0 0 2 2 0 0
0 0 2 2 0 0
0 0 0 0 3 3
0 0 0 0 3 3
!d numpy.repeat
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!e py import numpy as np arr = np.array([1, 2, 3]) arr = np.repeat(arr, 2) print(arr)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import numpy as np
arr = np.array([1, 2, 3])
arr = np.repeat(arr, 2)
pr...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[1 1 2 2 3 3]
!e py import numpy as np foo = np.array([0, 0, 5, 0, 1]) bar = np.zeros(5) bar[np.where(foo)] = 9 print(bar)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import numpy as np
foo = np.array([0, 0, 5, 0, 1])
bar = np.zeros(5)
ba...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[0. 0. 9. 0. 9.]
zeroes
upper basin
zeroes
somber heath
zero
!e py import numpy as np arr = np.array([[1, 0, 0], [0, 2, 0], [0, 0, 3]]) arr = np.repeat(arr, 2, axis=0) arr = np.repeat(arr, 2, axis=1) print(arr)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import numpy as np
arr = np.array([[1, 0, 0], [0, 2, 0], [0, 0, 3]])
ar...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [[1 1 0 0 0 0]
002 | [1 1 0 0 0 0]
003 | [0 0 2 2 0 0]
004 | [0 0 2 2 0 0]
005 | [0 0 0 0 3 3]
006 | [0 0 0 0 3 3]]
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
somber heath
@pine silo 👋
peak depot
cool, women it is. did you like the song.
Not my type of music.
somber heath
@lost aurora 👋
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
This python class?
It can be.
This is a general conversation channel.
We often talk about Python. We often talk about things that aren't Python.
neon wasp
Hi @peak depot 🙂
somber heath
why cant i speak
!voice 🙂
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
cppreference
somber heath
!guilds
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
cppreference
read it, suffer, read it again
@azure fiber what's your current experience with other languages, if any?
I'm currently updating some stuff for work (doing it on a weekend so nothing explodes during others' work hours)
running on an HDD is pain
@sinful phoenix 👋
sinful phoenix
@vocal basin 👋
wise loom
only u here <@264054779888533515>
not true anymore
soft dawn
@modest shale whats up
modest shale
bro I am also looking for internship
or job
but here in India no way I can find one
soft dawn
understood
vocal basin
@wise loom I understood the idea but not aware of existing implementations
@wise loom so like this where red is page 1, yellow is page 2, green is page 3? (and purple is visible area)
I think I saw something like this before
modest shale
what the heck u actually made a prototype?
vocal basin
but I also think this is a questionable idea if you want to actually read it
not a prototype, just a diagram
modest shale
yess, its just make it hard to read ? @wise loom
vocal basin
@wise loom I think what you're describing is more useful for scanning through a book, not actually reading it
modest shale
ngl i use my old sceen as 2nd screen but thats the only option I have
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> I think what you're describing is more useful for scanning...
scanning yes, but also having look-ahead and look-behind to just move my head left/right instead of hitting a key.
it's a tradeoff between hand motions and head movement.
i expect it might be useful to re-read paragraphs that i might have overlooked or like re-reading a definition or a theorem.
modest shale
yeah instead of extend why dont u copy the sceen
vocal basin
wise loom
<:pithink:652247559909277706>
there's something called kpdfopt which can trim the whitespace so you can get more content onto the screen
vocal basin
I'm not concerned with the PDF itself
aaaaa
what if I just render all pages at once
soft dawn
vocal basin
what if I just render *all* pages at once
@wise loom this works, btw
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> this works, btw
yes, it does work, not without its drawbacks, can't select text, can't search through it
vocal basin
I think that answers that question
the only drawback is how knuckle-headed the width handling is
my job is programming, not cooking, so fuck off with such remarks
vocal basin
<:pithink:652247559909277706>
links work too
import { useScreenSize } from "@visx/responsive";
import { useState } from "react";
import { Document, Page } from "react-pdf";
import type { DocumentCallback } from "react-pdf/src/shared/types.js";
function App() {
const { width } = useScreenSize({ debounceTime: 150 });
const [numPages, setNumPages] = useState<number>();
function onDocumentLoadSuccess({ numPages }: DocumentCallback): void {
setNumPages(numPages);
}
const pageN = (n: number) => <Page key={n} pageNumber={1 + n} canvasBackground="white" width={width / 2} />;
const leftIndices = Array.from(Array((numPages || 2) - 1).keys());
const rightIndices = leftIndices.map((x) => x + 1);
return (
<Document file={"/eop.pdf"} onLoadSuccess={onDocumentLoadSuccess}>
<div style={{ display: "flex", height: "100vh", width: "100vw", overflowY: "scroll", scrollbarWidth: "none" }}>
<div>{leftIndices.map(pageN)}</div>
<div>{rightIndices.map(pageN)}</div>
</div>
</Document>
);
}
export default App;
html,
body {
margin: 0;
}
interesting, and that's react 🙂
vocal basin
this is the whole relevant code
vocal basin
interesting, and that's react 🙂
I initially thought about using React for sync
but then I realised it's irrelevant
so I'm just using it for slightly easier gluing of PDF render
there is no sync there
it just render two sets of pages side-by-side as is
I could even reorder so it aligns properly but why would I bother putting any effort into it
ashen vessel
hi
vocal basin
I could even reorder so it aligns properly but why would I bother putting any ef...
if your PDF has different-sized pages, not my problem
vocal basin
~~my job is programming, not cooking, so fuck off with such remarks~~
@wise loom btw, yes, do be aware that I might consider boycotting interacting with you if this behaviour continues
main latch
why can't I talk?
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
raw flicker
@wise loom @main latch @vocal basin whats going on
vocal basin
vocal basin
<@264657660190654464> <@1100457099907039343> <@264054779888533515> whats going o...
trying to render pages like that
raw flicker
ohh
main latch
<@264657660190654464> <@1100457099907039343> <@264054779888533515> whats going o...
I have to send 50 messages before talking
that is a lot
raw flicker
I have to send 50 messages before talking
why
main latch
that is the rule
vocal basin
the process is being reformed but for now the current verification requirements remain
main latch
and I don't like messaging lol
raw flicker
that is the rule
oh
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> btw, yes, do be aware that I might consider boycotting int...
i take back what i said, my bad.
spiral hedge
that looks cool!
wise loom
one of the questions at a recent interview started with
I flip three coins and throw two dice
initially I thought this was some hiphop lyrics, but it was an actual question
vocal basin
professional gambler interview
wind raptor
one of the questions at a recent interview started with
> I flip three coins and...
Just a math problem?
wise loom
I remembered the rest of the question:
what's the probability that all three coins are heads OR that I get a 10 out of the dice
wise loom
Just a math problem?
yes, it was multiple-options single-choice
vocal basin
<@163839418623459330> time to switch to `uv`
(and just stop activating vens)
@wind raptor btw, there is an option to prevent VSCode from using default explorer dialogue when opening a directory/whatever else
so that instead it uses the built-in one
vocal basin
<@373121697957543946> btw, there is an option to prevent VSCode from using defau...
I highly recommend enabling it, especially on Linux
this
vocal basin
this
this is what VSCode already uses for remote and containers
this just also enables it for local
I'm clicking in this and nothing happens
peak UI
@obsidian dragon powershell comes with Ubuntu Server
wise wing
i don't hate powershell T_T
vocal basin
Rabbitshell
wise wing
i prefer git bash but i don't hate the other one ahaha
vocal basin
I'm clicking in this and nothing happens
no one thought git add could take time
I thought VSCode crashed
but it just minimised itself when a dialogue opened
@obsidian dragon uv add not uv pip
do not uv pip unless you absolutely need to
(you rarely ever do)
it's not for installing or removing packages, it's for stuff like pip freeze which you shouldn't be doing anyway when using uv
wise wing
hi hi:))
wind raptor
a good abstraction is not far from a good lie
Not wrong
vocal basin
I might've just applied a wrong promo code to food order and it worked anyway
not my problem ig
vocal basin
it was supposed to be $0.4 off (free delivery) but ended up $4 off (with paid $0.4 delivery)
$3.6 less than expected
vocal basin
also that free delivery code is kind of useless
because everything got delivery prices cut for some reason
so it's really no more than $0.6
vocal basin
$3.6 less than expected
which is half of this
vocal basin
some chicken thing, another chicken thing and 6L of drinks
and I obviously forgot to add milk there
wise wing
6 liters?!
vocal basin
it's still cheaper to order than go to the store
wise wing
oh did you order groceries
vocal basin
6 liters?!
for several days in advance
wise wing
yeah that makes more sense ahahaha
vocal basin
yeah, it's regular food not restaurant type food
vocal basin
in one day, quite possible
not this time
just that I can
it's not that far off from how much I drink a day actually
usually, tea
with milk
4~5L a day sounds realistic in my case
wise wing
THAT much??
wise wing
i think 2L is normal
or like the recommended
but maybe i'm wrong
i don't drink nearly enough so hahah
vocal basin
I need to drink constantly or else my throat suffers
also it needs to be not just regular filtered tap water
because that makes it hurt more
also I can't drink black tea without milk anymore
and some other types of tea
like oolong
(too drying)
wise wing
😮 i see
vocal basin
I tried drinking energy drinks some number of times,
my conclusion is it doesn't really do anything good to me
like it only makes me slightly more anxious
and that's all
vocal basin
mazut bath 🔥
TIL mazut being mazut and not just heavy fuel oil is largely about sulfur
wind raptor
vocal basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftalan_oil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-FtQ...
it's translated to Russian differently from regular crude oil
like vegetable oil rather than underground oil
weird
I guess easier to market
vocal basin
it's translated to Russian differently from regular crude oil
ah lmao no it's not, it's literally just marketing ones
wind raptor
Ahh haha
vocal basin
or mud
wind raptor
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/europe/cop29-azerbaijan-oil-baths.html?...
Yeah, it's wild that people do this haha
vocal basin
@wind raptor
definitely charged more
not because it's worth more, just because it'd be funny to rip rich people off that way
@obsidian dragon
does less work
are you adding laziness metrics?
you can buy that stuff packaged
after-bath bath
somber heath
vocal basin
whether it's been in a bath before, is unspecified
next level Patreon entrepreneurship
I chose my laptop solely based on battery life
stray pewter
@somber heath @primal shadow@wind raptor Wasap!!!!!
vocal basin
22h was kind of okay
wind raptor
<@317279909112446976> <@221417491136512010><@373121697957543946> Wasap!!!!!
Hey!
How have you been?
vocal basin
22h was kind of okay
(for just watching videos)
stray pewter
LLVM, and fun other stuff
vocal basin
(for just watching videos)
10h for active usage, 4h if it's constantly 100% CPU
stray pewter
Bassil or shorthand basl
wise wing
22h was kind of okay
oh woahh
wise wing
10h for active usage, 4h if it's constantly 100% CPU
yeahh that's fair!
obsidian dragon
<@163839418623459330>
> does less work
are you adding laziness metrics?
time alive is a tiny reward, levels is a bigger reward
stray pewter
its gonna be cross architecture, cross platform, and support for complication and interpretation
somber heath
vocal basin
I could consider getting a macbook and then install asahi linux on it
maybe that could even work
soft axle
o everyone quiet
vocal basin
but I'd rather just have x86_64 and regular Linux
vocal basin
22h was kind of okay
this is not ARM, this is a proper Ryzen CPU
stray pewter
im going to head out
wind raptor
Have a good one @stray pewter 👋
vocal basin
funny laptop
stray pewter
nice being back and I would like to apologize, I was annoying, disobedient, not listening, interrupting, pushing limits and boundaries and always doing something that was against the rules. That goes out to @rugged root @wind raptor @somber heath and @obsidian dragon
vocal basin
funny laptop
I wonder how long the battery works
stray pewter
I hope that I can show my personal growth and development and maturity and im sorry for all my previous actions
vocal basin
funny laptop
only 1.65kg
vocal basin
funny laptop
soft axle
wise wing
@obsidian dragon what're you trying to do that you're looking for your agent haha
vocal basin
https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-home/zenbook/asus-zenbook-duo-2024-ux8406/
@wise wing this is a very fancy one and kind of capable, but, yeah, no GPU
like if my current one suddenly died, I do have enough money to waste on this
I don't really do anything GPU-intensive
but
I write Rust
which means 100% CPU
(for compilation)
for some time, my laptop had the most powerful CPU among y computers
wise wing
ohh i see
wise wing
which means 100% CPU
goals tbh
for my ai models i had to go kinda crazy so i got an rtx 5080 with 16gb vram
and i'm so excited
vocal basin
https://dlcdnwebimgs.asus.com/files/media/fa307e21-6b21-4a7b-9227-59ce95afb26a/v...
$2~3K
vocal basin
and my current one cost me $1K
(I'm rounding because currency conversion is too random)
wise wing
fairss
vocal basin
it was 20% off, so around $800 at the time
obsidian dragon
<@163839418623459330> what're you trying to do that you're looking for your agen...
termi9nal has no output
vocal basin
totally not an impulse buy, ordering a laptop 1 hour before a shop several train stations away closes
Pixel cost me more than that
a phone which I still haven't used because it was only bought for toying around with the OS and I haven't yet gotten around to that
wise wing
oh naurrr
I love getting stuff on sale tbh
it's so satisfying
i got like 500 off on the laptop i bought
it's the best feeling ever haha
vocal basin
I usually think of it as "why is it on sale" first
vocal basin
it was 20% off, so around $800 at the time
this was because of oversupply I think
they often do these here: "20% off or pay in split over a year"
and likely many people choose the latter
wise wing
ahh i see
vocal basin
and now time to order stuff I'm actually going to eat now
wise wing
are you sick?:o
vocal basin
soup is the important part
(spicy soup)
vocal basin
the other place (the grocery one) didn't have that soup
vocal basin
the other place (the grocery one) didn't have *that* soup
they also have, like, day-by-day food service thing (delivered once every three days)
and there that soup was the spiciest one
like unexpectedly standing out of the overall not spicy food
very spicy
tom yum
we don't have that much Thai food here
but for whatever reason we have a lot of mango
mango everywhere
for me it's kind of just another fruit, not really standing out;
but juice made out of it is something I can drink a lot
mango juice for me is in the same category as peach and apricot juice
I kind of just drink/eat as much as I can
with tea the only limiting factor becomes that it's too hot to drink fast
black tea (high concentration, properly brewed, not like I drink where there's barely any caffeine) and coffee won't help that much with dehydration
(because caffeine)
I also need to constantly drink because my mouth and throat are drying out
general condition, this affects skin too
not really sure how to measure that
I helped other students get better, so that might be considered good I guess
!pypi arcade
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!pypi ursina
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!pypi pygame-ce
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
this is a fork
fork in Git
diverging change histories
this was a diagram I made for explaining how Forgejo (a Gitea fork) diverged from Gitea
I've used pygame for a little while
but it's kind of a low-level tool
@exotic loom what kind of game are you making?
exotic loom
that's complex
cursive niche
50 msgs
vocal basin
maybe try this so you don't have to bother with blitting nuances or whatever yet
vocal basin
or this
wise loom
this was a diagram I made for explaining how Forgejo (a Gitea fork) diverged fro...
graphviz or mermaid are also good tools for this.
but your diagram is nice, i like it.
vocal basin
graphviz or mermaid are also good tools for this.
but your diagram is nice, i li...
I dislike text-based diagrams because all rendering for them is still bad
the more automatic ones are not okay for me
output is way too messy
Mermaid produces valid output only occasionally, in my experience
orchid raft
you don't necessarily have to use pygame to build your logic
exotic loom
but its fun
vocal basin
as in you can abstract the logic away from pygame
orchid raft
what exactly are you studying? it heavily depends on that
vocal basin
as in you can abstract the logic away from pygame
so then you can easily switch to ursina or arcade
wise loom
I dislike text-based diagrams because all rendering for them is still bad
There is a system described in Higher Order Perl, they call it "Constraint Based System" and Mark calls his implementation "Linogram".
All the diagrams in his book are generated with that tool which he wrote.
I believe his tool must some toy version of a better one somewhere but idk where.
The novel idea is that these constraints are in fact equations which help the Layout engine decide placement of items.
I do agree with you that graphviz/mermaid can be inflexible many times and they require too much fiddling.
vocal basin
output is way too messy
so I prefer either draw.io (wysiwig) or detailed typesetting with TeX or SVG
I think automated diagramming largely misses the point for most usecases
for me, automation isn't the goal, the visual result is
@exotic loom I didn't hear the full question
arcade is a separate game engine
as in you use it instead of pygame
not with it
iirc
it might be using pygame internally
vocal basin
it *might* be using pygame internally
nvm, it uses pyglet instead
@exotic loom can you give more concrete examples rather just a "logic" buzzword
everything is logic
orchid raft
wait, you menitoned your goal is to study machine learning right?
focus on pandas and numpy mastery for now
data maniluplation..
in that case, start a follow along project from youtube for a small game
vocal basin
There is a system described in Higher Order Perl, they call it "Constraint Based...
automation is useful for displaying something derived from only data that you don't create during the process of making a diagram
e.g. drawing a layout of a project to visualise what is even happening
but even for such ad hoc cases, I still consider unreadable text and inconsistent layout to be a bug
orchid raft
tho for the core logic building that I guess you are referring to, will only come from DSA practice
vocal basin
if you ever want to put a diagram into a presentation, you will have to manually edit it
exotic loom
tho for the core logic building that I guess you are referring to, will only com...
I've done DSA and currently doing more but it's just overwelming
vocal basin
tho for the core logic building that I guess you are referring to, will only com...
there is also "domain logic" which is largely irrelevant to both algorithms and game engine details
orchid raft
I've done DSA and currently doing more but it's just overwelming
alright. just don't get stuck on research stage.. start building stuff asap
exotic loom
like what
vocal basin
for my minesweeper implementation, domain logic is very separate from the rest of the codebase
orchid raft
there is also "domain logic" which is largely irrelevant to both algorithms and ...
true. but he just wants to do something for fun and then switch to data science xD
orchid raft
like what
well you seem to be interested in pygame, so a small game project would seem fun
exotic loom
true. but he just wants to do something for fun and then switch to data science ...
ML ≠ DS
vocal basin
@exotic loom important question: do you want to mess with individual pixels or do you want an easier experience
exotic loom
<@1101101345609613432> important question: do you want to mess with individual p...
easier
exotic loom
ikr. well, you'll still be using the same libraries.
True
exotic loom
alright but what's the difference
vocal basin
pygame is very raw in its default mode of operation
exotic loom
so will I learn more there
vocal basin
it's not really a game engine, it's more of a foundational rendering library
vocal basin
if you want to focus on game logic rather than rendering details, then go with arcade
exotic loom
where do I learn more
vocal basin
we don't know
orchid raft
where do I learn more
both are equal bro
vocal basin
we can't see the future
exotic loom
both are equal bro
alright then let's go with both
orchid raft
you'll simply be working on different fronts in both of them
you'll definitely have more fun working with arcade
tight bane
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/utils/functional.py", line 47, in __get__
event_ticket_web | res = instance.__dict__[self.name] = self.func(instance)
event_ticket_web | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
event_ticket_web | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/db/models/fields/related.py", line 774, in related_fields
event_ticket_web | return self.resolve_related_fields()
event_ticket_web | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
event_ticket_web | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/db/models/fields/related.py", line 1146, in resolve_related_fields
event_ticket_web | related_fields = super().resolve_related_fields()
event_ticket_web | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
event_ticket_web | File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/db/models/fields/related.py", line 754, in resolve_related_fields
event_ticket_web | raise ValueError(
event_ticket_web | ValueError: Related model 'core.user' cannot be resolved
event_ticket_web | Applying admin.0001_initial...
some reference code would be nice
vocal basin
```python
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/utils/functiona...
can you give more context? i.e. what modules and what models you have
tight bane
can you give more context? i.e. what modules and what models you have
I get this error when applying migrations basically
vocal basin
I get this error when applying migrations basically
how did you install Django?
exact command
tight bane
exact command
pip install django
vocal basin
I have some suspicion that there might be something optional? but unlikely
vocal basin
pip install django
(I don't think that's the case given it's installed globally)
tight bane
(I don't think that's the case given it's installed globally)
I use virtual env
vocal basin
I use virtual env
virtualenv literally or venv?
vocal basin
```python
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/utils/functiona...
this error is not from venv clearly
/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/utils/functional.py
maybe you have more than one django installed?
one in venv, another globally?
and it's using the wrong one
vocal basin
`/usr/local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/django/utils/functional.py`
@tight bane this exact line means something is wrong with how you're running whatever you're running if you're trying to use it within a context of a virtual environment
tight bane
tight bane
<@1057973172529528872> this exact line means something is wrong with how you're ...
this is the full message
vocal basin
this is the full message
what command does this come from?
what are you running to get that error?
true bane
hiiie everyone
tight bane
what command does this come from?
python3 manage.py migrate inside a script file
vocal basin
python3 manage.py migrate inside a script file
replace python3 with exact path to venv's python3
e.g. ./venv/bin/python3
or whatever it is in your case
vocal basin
`virtualenv` literally or `venv`?
also still this question
woeful blaze
Hello
woeful blaze
I don't know how to help sorry
vocal basin
are you using venv inside Docker? or only outside for development?
willow loom
Hello
vocal basin
is the error happening inside Docker? or outside? or both?
woeful blaze
Does anyone know how to make an AI that can kind of think of what will happen
true bane
wht are you doing all ?
vocal basin
Does anyone know how to make an AI that can kind of think of what will happen
prediction model?
what is the context?
woeful blaze
wht are you doing all ?
Stuff for AI but I need to work on my image scraper I know it can be against the the websites needs are on but I don't want to use too many data sets used by somebody else who might have poison data data that doesn't align with any labels that I need or want
tight bane
are you using `venv` inside Docker? or only outside for development?
I dont have to use it in docker
woeful blaze
what is the context?
Like if I gave an AI a room and told them to think of what could happen at all times let's say the fourth dimension or The fifth dimension or that room goes through all different alternate histories just to see what the AI can think of like if I threw a ball would it explode with it fall to ceiling instead of falling down due to gravity etc
vocal basin
so there is no right answer, instead it needs to iteratively expand the answer set?
wise wing
so there is no right answer, instead it needs to iteratively expand the answer s...
honestly the way you manage to rephrase things is like an artform in itself
vocal basin
infinite sequences of whatever are only sanely representable as iterators or something similar
I don't actually know if there's an efficient way to apply an LLM to this
or whatever else
wise wing
infinite sequences of whatever are only sanely representable as iterators or som...
yeah that's fair
i hadn't thought of that haha
vocal basin
Haskell has infinite sequences within its syntax
I think Python's itertools has something like that too
!d itertools.count
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
it's like range but without end
also an iterator
unlike range
which is iterable
random note about that: Rust's ranges are still iterators
but there's a plan to make them just iterable
i.e. IntoIterator
wise wing
maybe a silly question but what's the difference between an iterator and something that's iterable
i figured it was just the same thing
but i guess not haha
vocal basin
iterator is something you can take a next item from
whereas iterable is something that can be converted into an iterator
all iterators are iterable
second-to-last pinned message here has something adjacent to that
class Iterable[T]:
def __iter__(self) -> Iterator[T]:
class Iterator[T](Iterable[T]):
def __next__(self) -> T: ...
def __iter__(self) -> Iterator[T]:
return Self
and Rust's equivalent
trait Iterator {
type Item;
fn next(&mut self) -> Option<Self::Item>;
}
trait IntoIterator {
type Item;
type IntoIter: Iterator<Item = Item>;
fn into_iter(self) -> Self::IntoIter;
}
i see:o
vocal basin
C++ has a very different notion of ranges and iterators so I suggest just ignoring its interpretation altogether
vocal basin
time to go through current tiobe index once again
I've only used Go for CI
so not that much experience
wise wing
what's ci?
wise wing
ahhh i see
vocal basin
most of automation, excluding deployment
vocal basin
time to go through current tiobe index once again
only two from the next ten
vocal basin
TIOBE
they have somewhat questionable methodology
basically just "random number that roughly means popularity"
wise wing
omg it's popularity based?
how on earth is visual basic on there
who's using that
😭
vocal basin
VBA
because Office
also Excel isn't listed there as a language
even though so much of computation happens there
vocal basin
I know some accidental pieces of Ruby and Lisp but I haven't written enough to count
TypeScript being top 37 shows just how wrong TIOBE are with their rankings
wise wing
i see
i do like the idea of the website tho
pretty fun to see
what type of things do you usually program?
vocal basin
what type of things do you usually program?
mostly server-side stuff
I don't make Desktop/Mobile apps
anything user-facing I make is either CLI or Web
I haven't done anything ML-related in a very long time
wise wing
ahhh
that's honestly nice though
i have some experience with just html/css but i wouldn't call that actual web dev
i'm actually making a website rn (or well, i'll continue after this exam) and i want to run an application on it that will turn whatever you feed it into an audiofile
wise wing
but i'm like, once i have written the app i have no idea how to host it or run it on the website at all lmao
vocal basin
<https://github.com/parrrate/grid/blob/main/index.css#L9-L26>
I wonder if browsers are already generally up-to-date enough to use this
I made it almost a year ago and at the time it relied on 1-month-old features
vocal basin
but i'm like, once i have written the app i have no idea how to host it or run i...
a lot of what I do is about deploying stuff on-prem
(on premise -- not cloud)
wise wing
a lot of what I do is about deploying stuff on-prem
ohhh that's cool!
is it hard/expensive to set up your own server that can run things like that?
vocal basin
I think it's easier to just deploy something onto cloud
for lower cost, cloud-deployed container
I have only one service-like thing for public access that's hosted on-prem
(a game)
but it's rarely ever accessed so not much concern for deployment
wise wing
ohh i see
wise wing
for lower cost, cloud-deployed container
i'll keep this in mind:)
vocal basin
the only way to lose there is to run out of time
3 minutes per each player, hitting a mine halves the time
wise wing
and how do you win? clearing the field before the other player or just making sure you don't run out of time first
vocal basin
eventually someone just runs out of time
so the other player wins
clearing the field rarely ever happens
at which point you do have to start clicking the mines
vocal basin
it's also still the only thing I have on this domain I bought just because I could
https://minesweeper.lesb.io/
there are premoves allowed
vocal basin
it's mostly just regular minesweeper
vocal basin
right click
chording works too
i.e. when you saturate a cell with flags, clicking that cell will open the rest cells around
raw flicker
i am just asking don't take this bad but does sitting on vc and studying/working helps or improve productivity?
wise wing
i.e. when you saturate a cell with flags, clicking that cell will open the rest ...
ohhhh interesting
vocal basin
i am just asking don't take this bad but does sitting on vc and studying/working...
for some it does,
whereas some are just waiting for others with mic to join the channel
no CSS all HTMX page
raw flicker
for some it does,
whereas some are just waiting for others with mic to join the ...
ohh
ok
wise loom
i am just asking don't take this bad but does sitting on vc and studying/working...
i'm listening to https://www.lofi.cafe/ and doing some problems, i read the vc chat from time to time.
wise wing
no CSS all HTMX page
hahaha love that
okay i'm gonna play 1 more and not just press buttons out of confusion 😂
raw flicker
i'm listening to https://www.lofi.cafe/ and doing some problems, i read the vc c...
okay great
vocal basin
I normally play single-player on https://minesweeper.online
wise wing
ohh that's nice! i used to play it as a kid whenever my internet went down ahahaha
but it's always been fun to play
vocal basin
vocal basin
actually not, somehow
wise loom
might be similar to my total playtime for https://lurkers.io
kindred mica
have a question if something is possible with pyton
wise wing
actually not, somehow
wild
wise loom
have a question if something is possible with pyton
go ahead, what is the question
sleek otter
both sound fine
kindred mica
id have to speak it/show it on my comp mind calling me in discord?
sleek otter
what devices capture this @willow light ? Smartwatches? or smartphones
wise loom
id have to speak it/show it on my comp mind calling me in discord?
you can write it here, i'm busy solving problems but can read your question.
others will also read it and they may answer.
kindred mica
okay cool
kindred mica
so im playing dayz and i wanna see if i can automate something in the game by making a program to do it. Is it possible to make something that clicks on an item, goes out of the inventory, holds mouse 1 for a alloted amount of time and then repeats
when it repeats it would have to go to the next item in the inventory but would have to move my "mouse"
vocal basin
- yes, it's possible
- read rule 5, assistance on such projects is out of scope for this server
wise wing
how tf did 8GB of files turn into 29GB of LFS uploads
that's WILD LOL
omg i'm so glad i'm going to get 2tb ssd
wise loom
reminds me of the time a guy tried to write some optimizer for his mouse sensitivity in counter-strike lol
wise wing
i remember i had to uninstall league bc i couldn't install a package due to lack of storage
wise loom
can someone explain antchal's question to me?
@cloud flare yes, General Transit Feed Specification (GTFS)
@cloud flare Moovit is an app that does this
vocal basin
how to get data about transit more easily: just work for the transport monopoly
wise loom
how to get data about transit more easily: just work for the transport monopoly
i mean it is open data https://github.com/andredarcie/awesome-gtfs?tab=readme-ov-file#public-feeds
@cloud flare the data in the link above provides schedules
vocal basin
when are we bringing back bus routes between Britain and India
wise wing
wdym bringing back LMAO
wise wing
only 65 pounds????
what an absolute STEAL
and only 20 days
you're right
it should be brought back
nvm i'm not paying 15k for torture 
vocal basin
@willow light make tornado damages great again
mossy cedar
does no rout mean I've been ban from the chat?
vocal basin
does no rout mean I've been ban from the chat?
no
but your ISP might be blocking Discord, theoretically
happens to me when not using a VPN
mossy cedar
it says rtc connecting.... no rout disconnect reconnect in loop
vocal basin
needs real VPN not just some whatever extension
mossy cedar
needs real VPN not just some whatever extension
i use proxy when i need to
vocal basin
i use proxy when i need to
proxy doesn't work for WebRTC usualy
because that's UDP not TCP
and most proxies tunnel TCP only
I'm currently using a proxy for typing this out
but for voice I need a VPN
mossy cedar
but your ISP might be blocking Discord, theoretically
i just joined a chat and came back here
it was working there
vocal basin
yeah, that happens sometimes too
either try staying connected for longer or wait until everyone reconnects
(which won't be soon)
mossy cedar
i wonder is this because of some new regional discord term change or something
imm try some ipconfig/renew
wise loom
could it be that there's already weather satellites and the prediction software is good enough that the US decided to shut down their weather research labs?
vocal basin
i wonder is this because of some new regional discord term change or something
no, if it works for the other chat, this is just plain old unreliability
generally
though fiddling around might accidentally fix it
vocal basin
could it be that there's already weather satellites and the prediction software ...
those aren't just "research" labs
also
the satellite data is made inaccessible too
mossy cedar
didn'twork
wise loom
the satellite data is made inaccessible too
that sounds bad
vocal basin
could it be that there's already weather satellites and the prediction software ...
so the answer is no
@willow light sometimes works, sometimes works too much
wise loom
@willow light I'm glad RedHat and Canonical are not involved, phew
sleek otter
why is nginx DoSing the disk <:pithink:652247559909277706>
strange
willow light
could it be that there's already weather satellites and the prediction software ...
The reason is politics. The current regime does not like science, and is shutting down science because the science is a threat to the regime's ability to make short term profits. Also, because an educated populace is a threat to authoritarianism.
vocal basin
what was that VM thing Canonical made
I already forgot
MAAS
spelled that
not MaaS
oh wait no
I meant Multipass
hazy flower
Wow)
hazy flower
Hi! I'm new here. Does anyone know how to disable microphone suppression in Discord? Thanks!
How can I get permission to speak?
vocal basin
How can I get permission to speak?
!voice
wise cargoBOT