Tigerbeetle
#voice-chat-text-0
vocal basin
Tigerbeetle is insane levels of engineering
you'll end up in C one way or another
everything audio and realtime and high performance leads there
@wind raptor what if WASM
so it's in the browser
completely
don't say it's electron
why is this thing the first in the search
wind raptor
why is this thing the first in the search
in what search?
vocal basin
bing, wtf
I wasn't actually search anything
just typed nwjs in the start menu
it's an alternative to Electron
the site is almost certainly AI-generated
sounds like #data-science-and-ml #media-processing
(also please stop spamming)
and ask your question directly instead of looking for "experts"
wind raptor
!stream 221417491136512010
wise cargoBOT
✅ @primal shadow can now stream until <t:1748705123:f>.
vocal basin
I've just noticed that cursor changes when moving the Discord stream popup around
vocal basin
I've just noticed that cursor changes when moving the Discord stream popup aroun...
feels so 2000s
rapid jungle
!stream
vocal basin
okay you've just sold me the game
rapid jungle
!stream 22
vocal basin
bought
wind raptor
!stream 1258548535108964363
wise cargoBOT
✅ @rapid jungle can now stream until <t:1748705479:f>.
vocal basin
codeberg mentioned
GitHub but for lesbians
(quote from homepage from 1st of April last year)
fuck CLI utility but ✨AI✨?
hmm
@rapid jungle@magic zenith seems like it's not
it's closed source
allegedly
who knows what they actually use
Zig as a C compiler for Rust is great
most my software targeting musl is built with Zig
vocal basin
~10 years
so Zig is going to be in pre-1.0 longer than Rust ig?
@magic zenith the closest language to Zig is C
they interoperate directly
@magic zenith you're only looking at syntax
yeah, syntax is largely irrelevant
(in terms of how languages are related/what they are a "mix" of)
JavaScript, for example, looks like Java and is named like Java only for marketing purposes
in its core, it's Scheme
and Scheme is a variant of Lisp
the most exotic syntax out of somewhat common somewhat sane language is Erlang imo
in the "a lot of oddities" kind of exotic
/= for not-equal
declaration of argument counts after /
and other fun stuff
Erlang is a very important language to interact with at some point
magic zenith
vocal basin
@unique wyvern what does true/false mean in that context?
"merge succeeded"ness?
@unique wyvern if you already can test it upfront, maybe raise an exception instead?
!e
out = False
match True:
case out if 1 == 2:
pass
case _:
pass
print(out)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
False
!e
out = True
match False:
case _ if 1 == 1:
pass
case out:
pass
print(out)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
what a horror have I created
@unique wyvern single-return abomination:
merged = True
match False:
case _ if ...:
...
case _ if ...:
...
case merged:
pass
return merged
just copy the entire document each time
persistent data structures are fun
vocal basin
woohoo new error
wise loom
upper basin
nbval
wise loom
spending billions to make millions
same as OpenAI who would fold if it didn't raise the next funding round
upper basin
"Run our tests locally. Do this locally. Do that locally."
Their slow-ass tester taking 5 mins for a single test case.
vocal basin
@upper basin I waited several months for a single-line-addition PR to get merged
to be fair, it was real software in my case
@sour imp "Claude, I promise to share this bounty with you"
sour imp
fr lol careful though if claude dont get paid they may call the police 🤣
vocal basin
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> I waited several months for a single-line-addition PR to g...
I remember.
The rust one.
vocal basin
wise cargoBOT
emulator.cpp lines 15 to 17
//The path to the keyboard and mouse (should look something like /dev/input/eventX)
char KEYBOARD_PATH[] = "<YOUR-PATH>";
char MOUSE_PATH[] = "<YOUR-PATH>";```I would not volunteer for an event when I can't commit time for it. Just a waste of everyone's time that is.
upper basin
*I just don't participate in events*
It's easy money if they don't screw around.
I technically should have about 700 bucks now.
vocal basin
for how many hours of work?
upper basin
All PRs that I'm alone on, and close the issue properly.
upper basin
for how many hours of work?
One day.
vocal basin
8 hours?
upper basin
I would have closed all 6 on the first day and would have been able to move to new ones.
upper basin
(as in what "one day" is in hours of work)
I spent 2-3 hours for this one. One day would be like 14 hours or so for me.
This one is funny.
qindex mem_tryGetLocalRamCapacityInBytes() {
/// @todo attempt to find total Ram
// if we're unable to find total RAM, throw an exception
// (which the caller should catch and gracefully continue)
throw (mem::COULD_NOT_QUERY_RAM) false;
}
25 bucks.
hehe
He wants to print total RAM regardless of os or compiler.
vocal basin
I will blindly trust this number just because it happens to be roughly the same as 700/14
upper basin
"My grandma used to write cpp code for accessing RAM, I miss her, so..."
upper basin
I will blindly trust this number just because it happens to be roughly the same ...
lol
upper basin
Maybe mode. Edna mode.
vocal basin
oh I've just come up with such a cursed overengineered idea
maybe_wasm!(|argument| ...)
generates an object that contains both the original closure and lazily evaluated WASM, if the function needs to be sent over the network
jovial merlin
yo wsg
vocal basin
`maybe_wasm!(|argument| ...)`
so this would compile for the main target, but also for wasm32-unknown-unknown
and whatever Rust thing on the (potential) other side would run it
cursed but possible
vocal basin
`maybe_wasm!(|argument| ...)`
whereas this is for server-side
better dynamic loading
and, more importantly, unloading
you cannot unload a C shared object safely
sending an arbitrary function (e.g. filter) over the network to another service
specifically so that I can use Rust
can't load Rust dynamically in any other way
in any other sane way
in a different process/on a different machine
potentially useful at work
it's not a new idea in any way
edge compute is quite normal
similar idea to this
I need to execute code near where data lives
without having to spawn processes
I can just send a static binary over, I don't need docker
isolation is not critical here
given how it's expected to be a pure function
vocal basin
without having to spawn processes
.
that
to reduce resource usage
I can easily use Lua, and that's what I'm going to integrate anyway
those are separate goals
vocal basin
I can easily use Lua, and that's what I'm going to integrate anyway
with resource control
I will allow users to run arbitrary Lua code, because I can control it
going to use that thing
I don't really need it to "call" Rust
it can just yield what it needs to be called
so Lua code remains a pure function
vocal basin
for now, only using WASM in the browser
again, very specifically to run existing Rust code
(for functionality, not performance)
wise loom
lavish rover
<@378279228002664454> is this what *That Pipeline* used?
no, it was all complete garbage home written code
dire saddle
astral coral
it works now :3
somber heath
@plucky swan 👋
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
astral coral
whats the problem?
somber heath
@thin wasp 👋
peak depot
Zak stop lurking and join vc
plucky swan
errrm did you use rpi imager
no i did all the imager thign but the ssh aint working
somber heath
https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/remote-access.html There is a page on the subject, but I don't know if it's going to be any help.
astral coral
twin zinc
What do I make for international hackathon?
astral coral
¬¬ thats on you, not the song ¬¬
plucky swan
sorry
twin zinc
obsidian dragon
sour willow
@astral coral waddup dude
astral coral
yo man
somber heath
@karmic rain 👋
karmic rain
<@989840611043577866> 👋
how are u doing ?
vocal basin
@astral coral leave it like that, instant game over
somber heath
@remote phoenix @lucid bear 👋
lucid bear
<@1216968825187074128> <@1316848443809075270> 👋
I wanna just listen to you
Bc my English isn't good
That is okay?
somber heath
I wanna just listen to you
Bc my English isn't good
That is okay?
Yes. 😁
somber heath
@faint cove 👋
faint cove
vocal basin
@peak depot well, not as long; even before humans in case of orientation
@somber heath water animals mostly
what is that non-fish fish called
the colourful one
somber heath
@worldly magnet 👋
vocal basin
AI
find a more original conversation topic maybe
anyway, if you want to use AI to write Python, you must learn Python
@worldly magnet are you using EC2?
you can't AWS security into your app itself easily
ghghghghh
you can't "upload the website to the internet"
you host it somewhere
@worldly magnet is that a static website?
@worldly magnet if you want a cloud-compatible solution, outsource auth
just don't do it yourself
@worthy timber please no
funny joke but please no
@worthy timber no it's not the most secure
web2 is done
okay you're just trolling at this point
eh
nvm neither of them is reading
@worthy timber well NOW you are actually trolling
@worldly magnet Angular is not better at all
vocal basin
nvm neither of them is reading
so I'm just writing this so that I can't be held accountable for negligently ignoring the blatant misinformation
@worldly magnet they are trolling if you haven't noticed yet
side note: you can run React server-side
@worldly magnet ASP.NET is the main C# web framework
ASP.NET is way more spaghetti code than FastAPI
@worthy timber you sure are managing to output a high-concentration bullshit
most of the banks use COBOL
@worldly magnet NEVER ORACLE
NEVER
absolutely no
@worldly magnet I only unmuted to stop the active misinformation
if you want a simple route, just Next.js or Remix
vocal basin
<@514518560513458195> I only unmuted to stop the active misinformation
brb audio died
well it technically died when I allowed Discord access to mic
vocal basin
if you want a simple route, just Next.js or Remix
then deploy to Vercel or whatever
or any other corporate alternatives
browser does not "read" index.php, the server does
@worldly magnet if you are unsure about security and want to rely on a "template", then don't do anything that relies on security
either learn or don't
anyway, I'm done with this because it's going nowhere
bleak pine
Holy words
vocal basin
<@514518560513458195> I only unmuted to stop the active misinformation
and word my intervention to stop that has been ignored
eh
upper basin
I have never seen someone say "You need to know machine code." For a general dev
jovial dirge
@versed heath Hey there I know the basics of python and also I know a basics of HTMLCSS and learning JS though I learned it before but practicing right now I also know the basics of C programming but the problem is I'm not understanding that which place it will drive me to I mean are there any different sectors in this computer science engineering . Currently 19 years old watching youtube projects but cant write code alone
I am watching tech with tim 9 hours python projects understanding logics but though improved a bit but some loops are devastating @versed heath
somber heath
@thorn wigeon 👋
vocal basin
I am watching tech with tim 9 hours python projects understanding logics but tho...
if you're spending 8~9 hours a day learning, consider spending 4 instead
and sleep more
don't try to take in all the information at once
jovial dirge
@versed heath I will not gonna say i cant but in deep logics for loops it becomes tough but understanding the logics though and getting help from AI
yeah
stucked took help from AI
like some rock paper scissor games and made a portfolio using html css
nah rock paper was good but other mini python projects
vocal basin
every now and then instead of asking help from AI try to figure out the explanation yourself, derived from the documentation of whatever you're working with
jovial dirge
stack overflow?
vocal basin
if you don't know where the documentation is, you can ask AI just to point you there instead of asking for explanation
also avoid w3schools at all costs
somber heath
@wraith jetty 👋
vocal basin
stack overflow at least has humans writing answers/comments
stackoverflow, stackexchange, serverfault, askubuntu
I don't remember which else are part of that company
vocal basin
https://stackexchange.com/sites
GenAI is at the bottom where it belongs
I wonder if they're paying the trademark fee
how is this a serverfault question
Kotlin
vocal basin
idk what the current US position is on "exporting" Android Studio
I normally install JetBrains' IDEs form
https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/
idk if you can download it directly
I'm in a place that US has export restrictions on too, but I think I can just download Android Studio as is
ah, wait, nvm, not anymore
correction: I could download it a few months ago
in Russia
oh, wait, it's back
had to sign in
womp womp
vocal basin
I normally install JetBrains' IDEs form
<https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/>
try downloading this, then signing in with GitHub
if Android Studio shows up, then try installing it
wait what Rider now has a Community-ish version
@worthy timber it's not Gradle that's blocking, it's the underlying specific Maven repositories
seems like
you need to locally download all the dependencies from some side channel
e.g. GitHub if you have access to that
a lot of mathematics I've learned in school and university ended up being useful for programming
set theory is great
make your own projects
it will speed up learning
@worthy timber important part of school is interaction with other students
I don't specialise in any specific software field either
but that seems to be a rare case for people who actually work
I'm content with however much I earn
I don't have that many reasons to spend
okay
coral drift
why is the logo colorful
somber heath
why is the logo colorful
It's one of my favourite months of the year here. Also one of the somewhat more stressful, but eh.
Stressful in that we have to deal with people's garbage opinions.
Favourite in that we get to see the garbage taken out.
vocal basin
wait what Rider now has a Community-ish version
hmm
obsidian dragon
austere hornet
i saw that too
tidal wadi
@ mehrad hey
robust marsh
<@1190946289274339449>👋
yo wsup mate
somber heath
Reading what is politely referred to as a visual novel.
Hi hi.
I remember when it was all hissing and antipathy,
@wooden oracle👋
wooden oracle
hi
somber heath
With annoyance and zoomies?
woeful blaze
?
woeful blaze
hello
vocal basin
Reading what is politely referred to as a visual novel.
I recently found another random Chinese VN recently that I have shown to someone from here before
"another" being only second so far
somber heath
The one I'm reading at the moment is +99 Reinforced Wooden Stick.
I've laughed out loud on several occasions.
It also goes full Junji Ito.
It's amazing.
vocal basin
~~"another" being only second so far~~
I'm currently using a different keyboard and writing tildes is a bit weird
it has no key for that
somber heath
Emotional gut punch? Emotional gut punch.
somber heath
I saw someone mention today that they'd bound their escape key to caps lock...or something.
Sounded a bit weird to me.
vocal basin
caps lock being a second escape is not new to me
somber heath
@naive oasis👋
somber heath
Maybe it was that.
vocal basin
caps lock being a second escape is not new to me
guess which software that was for
somewhat old piece of technology
somber heath
vim?
primal shadow
Last message in #voice-chat-text-1 was 5 hours ago
OOps
wrong chat
hmm... I'm lost
somber heath
Wherever you are, you are there.
If you find yourself somewhere you are not, you may have encountered a problem.
vocal basin
Last message in <#799647045886541885> was 5 hours ago
you should've realised it's not OT because I had typed in there
somber heath
@golden crane👋
golden crane
<@1263130121473101874>👋
Hi 👋
vocal basin
AI should only be used for alerts/analytics, never direct action, when comes to moderation
however unclear alerts are something that has potential toll
somber heath
Outside of select circumstances. There are cases where you can have autobans/mutes/message deletes. But as a general idea, yes, automoderation is not a good idea.
vocal basin
AI should only be used for alerts/analytics, never direct action, when comes to ...
using AI to "see relevant messages" is probably the closest to sane option
as to not have to look through entire message history of a user
granite shore
why there lgbtq ?
somber heath
Maybe not autobans, but automutes, certainly.
vocal basin
Discord itself has auto-bans but idk if they're visible to the server moderation
tawdry crow
Hello there!
somber heath
why there lgbtq ?
Because all that exists in that regard is what nature has thrown at the wall and has stuck.
The same recipe that makes non-queer people makes queer people.
Like pancake batter.
Thrown against a wall.
Although if you find a pancake batter that actually sticks completely to the wall without it dripping off from it, you may have the recipe wrong, to be honest.
vocal basin
as for branding we can now say "because the Pope declared as such" given Stel is now a director
vocal basin
Discord itself has auto-bans but idk if they're visible to the server moderation
I think it's completely invisible from the outside
vocal basin
almost 500 lines for a single type
dealing with this monstrosity
somber heath
Well, I'll probably have some form of RSI after scrolling so much.
Plus my bum is probably a little sore from being sat on so much.
vocal basin
there are no methods
just data
something like this, except way more complex
enum Command {
Set {
key: String,
value: String,
},
Get {
key: String,
},
}
iron geyser
Hello oh I love the colors this Pride month. We in France have gaypride in different cities 🥰
vocal basin
does the bot recognise different words I wonder
vocal basin
Hello oh I love the colors this Pride month. We in France have gaypride in diffe...
meanwhile me, living as a lesbian in Russia: ...
vocal basin
does the bot recognise different words I wonder <:pithink:652247559909277706>
seems like not
but we do have 
iron geyser
meanwhile me, living as a lesbian in Russia: ...
If this isn't a joke, be brave...
vocal basin
something like this, except way more complex
```rust
enum Command {
Set {
...
79 variants
id how many fields
I can probably count
332 total
@astral coral reef?
cobalt vortex
hi 👋
astral coral
:3
somber heath
So noted.
cobalt vortex
does pride month still exist
vocal basin
lmao the bot
peak depot
How could he remove something that happens all around the world?
cobalt vortex
yeh i "heard" that it got removed from calender
peak depot
He still not control the whole worlds calendars
cobalt vortex
like google calender
peak depot
Google is not the whole world
cobalt vortex
i mean technically not the whole world
many south asian countries dont follow and dont even know what pride month is
i mean u could also say that the west is not the whole world
vocal basin
is Russia part of the "West"?
cobalt vortex
i did not meant that way but it is something tha is very unknown to many around the world
cobalt vortex
is Russia part of the "West"?
and russia does not promote pride
but i dont mean any offense
vocal basin
and russia does not promote pride
you probably don't know what Russia is
you mean the Russian government
cobalt vortex
nah i just dont want to be seen as a homophobe and be discriminated
cobalt vortex
you mean the Russian government
yeh 😄
vocal basin
pride month is a very existent thing inside Russia
cobalt vortex
i mean i see many people here support pride so i dont want the one to be against or with anything
what is the history of pride
candid spire
many south asian countries dont follow and dont even know what pride month is
Pride month is western concept, not a global phenomenon.
South Asian countries do have cultural rituals and celebrations that are practiced by Trans and Gay folks in private and public
cobalt vortex
Pride month is western concept, not a global phenomenon.
South Asian countries d...
very true
vocal basin
what is the history of pride
June 28 1969
peak depot
Stonewall
cobalt vortex
so it all started from a gay bar 😭 🙏
cobalt vortex
We have snow themes in Australia at Christmas.
oh thats cool
somber heath
A little incongruous if you think about it, sure.
Plus the warm Santa hats and outfits.
candid spire
very true
You'd be surprised to know but India has the highest population of Trans and Gay people.
Because of the sheer size of India , estimates suggest 10% of Indian identity as LGBTQ+
cobalt vortex
You'd be surprised to know but India has the highest population of Trans and Gay...
very false
candid spire
nah bruh i live in india
So do I
candid spire
it is sill known as a menal illness here
Hmm?
candid spire
bruh where do u even live ?
Mumbai
vocal basin
<@&831776746206265384> VC
candid spire
He is definitely mentally ill?
cobalt vortex
wtf 😭
cobalt vortex
🍿
candid spire
Some topics are sensitive but it was rude to say such a thing to anyone
whole rover
what's up?
astral coral
its fine
vocal basin
what's up?
1236572827251904533
somber heath
Honestly, I'm not exactly sure.
vocal basin
(Fisher was in VC towards the end, if you need to write down, ask him)
@astral coral "acting strong over being strong"
candid spire
Take your time
vocal basin
<@1157723305265078272> "acting strong over being strong"
"strong government doesn't need to protect itself from its own population" kind of thing
so by doing the exact opposite, yeah, it ends up even looking the opposite
cobalt vortex
@candid spire just asking are u a studetn?
somber heath
@pastel summit 👋
candid spire
<@1342854381204144212> just asking are u a studetn?
No, why do you ask?
cobalt vortex
No, why do you ask?
i mean in college ?
candid spire
Never been to college
cobalt vortex
Never been to college
so u are in school?
candid spire
so u are in school?
Nope
cobalt vortex
damn
astral coral
cobalt vortex
how old are u
candid spire
how old are u
19
somber heath
@jovial merlin 👋
jovial merlin
<@1319370380078743584> 👋
hi
somber heath
I too, see. Until I close my eyes. Then I do not see. Unless you count the noise.
whole bear
hello
jovial merlin
I too, see. Until I close my eyes. Then I do not see. Unless you count the noise...
what are you on about lol
cobalt vortex
I too, see. Until I close my eyes. Then I do not see. Unless you count the noise...
i get it
cobalt vortex
@astral coral not me closing my eyes to check 😭
vocal basin
my brain thinks of it more like "no colour"
cobalt vortex
@jovial merlin damn
vocal basin
I used to feel like it's black/dar red/red/white depending on circumstances
somber heath
what are you on about lol
You're asking the wrong person.
jovial merlin
You're asking the wrong person.
lol
vocal basin
but now it's just that I don't even think of it as a colour
cobalt vortex
i see blck and red under light
jovial merlin
but yea if i dont do anything weird just dark red
cobalt vortex
@astral coral where are u getting these from ?
jovial merlin
the voice verification reqs are wild ngl
vocal basin
I used to feel like it's black/dar red/red/white depending on circumstances
very annoying thing that used to happen was that, when I closed eyes, even without any serious light sources outside, I would see very bright, annoyingly bright, white
jovial merlin
@astral coral you good?
wild wing
I am not sure about his eyes but Every time he closes his mouth… I swear I can hear angels sing. Silence really is golden."
cobalt vortex
I am not sure about his eyes but Every time he closes his mouth… I swear I can h...
damn
wild wing
You know that
cobalt vortex
🍿
somber heath
@obsidian jewel 👋
obsidian jewel
<@726078305765425222> 👋
hi
vocal basin
"you know that when you look up mentions: ... in the search and the only thing that comes up is about inheritance, something is definitely off"
somber heath
@cloud root 👋
peak depot
primal shadow
jovial merlin
i dont know why is just shared that 😭 🙏
wild
wild wing
In India, we don’t argue — we get served by your American servers daily. While you bark like dogs, we’re busy running the world with desi swag.😎🐶💻
jovial merlin
wild wing
And servent also
candid spire
In India, we don’t argue — we get served by your American servers daily. While y...
??
jovial merlin
In India, we don’t argue — we get served by your American servers daily. While y...
what are you talking about?
candid spire
Idk, why does he act like that?
cobalt vortex
WOAHHH
jovial merlin
@primal shadow werent you just mad at him for being controversial
also you just said ignore him and your the only one interacting with him and beefing
cobalt vortex
<@221417491136512010> werent you just mad at him for being controversial
HYPOCRISY
cobalt vortex
no you just starting arguing, not getting clarity
i mean it was from both sides
jovial merlin
i mean it was from both sides
yea true
jovial merlin
bro @primal shadow its ragebait, its not that deep bro
cobalt vortex
@peak depot now what
i guess that is just the policy now
and isnt that just being counted as racism @peak depot
candid spire
@primal shadow He is delusional, he was mocking you because of stereotypes he have about you and American and consider you no equal to him.
I am aware of his intentions, he is definitely trying to get in trouble and being sadist out of boredom or something has happened bad with him.
jovial merlin
thats why people dont bring it up i guess
cobalt vortex
bruh
jovial merlin
bro but @primal shadow why is this getting so political
i mean its not all you of course the other guy brought it up too
but its a python server
its because we just wanna chill and code
not get into a debate
nah im not free to bc reqs are loads to speak
vocal basin
but its a python server
voice channels are off-topic
jovial merlin
alr ig
wild wing
its because we just wanna chill and code
Bro they first abused me
cobalt vortex
@primal shadow i am not here to talk any politics because all of them are piece of shits
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
jovial merlin
@somber heath i know the criteria but like
i havent been here 3 days so thats what im doing
wild wing
When I ask sometimes relevant they fucked uppp
jovial merlin
alr ig @primal shadow
vocal basin
Bro they first abused me
that doesn't give you the right to respond in a rude manner;
if you have a problem with someone, DM @rapid crown
cobalt vortex
@primal shadow bringing politics will bring nothing but conflicts
wild wing
i havent been here 3 days so thats what im doing
I fucked you criteria Already
I am not afraid of it
jovial merlin
<@221417491136512010> bringing politics will bring nothing but conflicts
thats my view too but if thats how it is ig it is
primal shadow
I like to discuss and educate 🙂
wild wing
I must shit on yours mouth without hesitate
cobalt vortex
thats my view too but if thats how it is ig it is
idk why he does that
primal shadow
I must shit on yours mouth without hesitate
You should get help, from a professional.
cobalt vortex
@somber heath what does it solve
primal shadow
Not to kink shame, but... you know
vocal basin
I must shit on yours mouth without hesitate
<@&831776746206265384> I think we can throw them out already
cobalt vortex
what does it make easier in day to day life
wild wing
They do politics first opalmist I came here to learn something
wild wing
But they do shit always
primal shadow
I thought it was over
wild wing
You left the voice chat and you're still going on
Shut off
jovial merlin
fair enough im just not used to that in discord vcs ig
cobalt vortex
@somber heath ok so pride means opening of opinions right?
wild wing
<@&831776746206265384> I think we can throw them out already
You know I fuck your mother 👩
astral coral
pride
hidden flower
!ban 1236572827251904533 Not civil
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @wild wing permanently.
astral coral
yay I got arainbow flag >:3
vocal basin
hi Vivek
hidden flower
I was typing an actual ban message but then they went from a 100 to 10000
jovial merlin
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied **ban** to <@1236572827251904533> permanen...
w
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> ok so pride means opening of opinions right?
The paradox of intolerance applies.
candid spire
You know I fuck your mother 👩
Your upbringing is bad
somber heath
The parable of the Nazi bar applies.
cobalt vortex
The paradox of intolerance applies.
wdym
cobalt vortex
@somber heath talking happens between two open mind
but politics is something mostly approached with closed minds and opinions
that is why it leads to nothing
somber heath
"If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."
cobalt vortex
"If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."
fym
cobalt vortex
Beg pardon?
?
jovial merlin
wait so @primal shadow are you right wing or left wing i kinda fased out
astral coral
"If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."
isn't that paraphrase carl sagan?
primal shadow
lol
cobalt vortex
@somber heath i respect u a lot because u tought me many things but in terms of politics i dont agree
vocal basin
I'm unfamiliar with that acronym. Could you please explain it?
[what the ]fuck you mean
candid spire
but politics is something mostly approached with closed minds and opinions
It doesn't matter; one should maintain composure, especially in public spaces.
cobalt vortex
discussing politics in a PYTHON server isnt going to save people live instead destroys people energy
primal shadow
but politics is something mostly approached with closed minds and opinions
Those are my favorite people to discuss politics with
vocal basin
does pride month still exist
reminder that you started the discussion
cobalt vortex
Those are my favorite people to discuss politics with
then u come here nothing but to get validation
vocal basin
I'm unfamiliar with that acronym. Could you please explain it?
Google AI summary for that is so funny
cobalt vortex
reminder that you started the discussion
i already cleared that i didnt mean it in a bad way
candid spire
I do know politics is sensitive and for some it is religion.
But one should not misbehave and act inhuman, especially in off topic room
stuck furnace
Hey, muted people are people too 😔
somber heath
Google AI summary for that is so funny
"fym"?
cobalt vortex
@primal shadow i get what u are saying regarding the other one
jovial merlin
Hey, muted people are people too 😔
fr lol
cobalt vortex
@primal shadow its not ur fucking business whether i speak or not
jovial merlin
<@221417491136512010> its not ur fucking business whether i speak or not
true
vocal basin
<@221417491136512010> its not ur fucking business whether i speak or not
that's almost exactly what he said
cobalt vortex
there is a reason why there is a text channel for a vc
vocal basin
that's almost exactly what he said
he literally said he doesn't tell others how to speak
stuck furnace
discussing politics in a PYTHON server isnt going to save people live instead de...
Generally this is an off-topic voice chat, so people talk about whatever they're interested in. We will sometimes steer the conversation away from certain topics, or if it becomes too heated.
astral coral
Hey, muted people are people too 😔
are they.... are they really ....
jovial merlin
are they.... are they really ....
zak you havent spoken in like a half hour
astral coral
zak you havent spoken in like a half hour
TOO MUCH SHOUTING, NOTHING GOOD TO SAY
vocal basin
I have the most legitimate reason to keep myself muted:
unmuting breaks audio output
Firefox just how
stuck furnace
The actor who plays Dewey also left acting I think?
astral coral
yeee he did
peak depot
astral coral
https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-jeoffry-king-i-am-the-king-gif-146451...
!e """import random""""
vocal basin
```
astral coral
!e import random
wise cargoBOT
!e ```import random```
:warning: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
@wise loom the code analyser?
astral coral
!e import random python_discord = ["Zak", "Milien", "bigfootcancode", "_426", "LX", "OpalMist"] for i in python_discord: python_judged = random.choice(["Haram", "Halal"]) print(f"{i} is {python_judged} ")
wise cargoBOT
!e ```import random
python_discord = ["Zak", "Milien", "bigfootcancode", "_426",...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | Zak is Halal
002 | Milien is Haram
003 | bigfootcancode is Halal
004 | _426 is Haram
005 | LX is Halal
006 | OpalMist is Haram
I've had to deal with infer before
stuck furnace
!stream 221417491136512010 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @primal shadow can now stream until <t:1748798120:f>.
jovial merlin
can i have streaming perms lx?
stuck furnace
can i have streaming perms lx?
What do you want to stream? 👀
cobalt vortex
dam
sweet agate
Hey opal mist please pay me bro i fucked you mother bro
jovial merlin
What do you want to stream? 👀
ma code
stuck furnace
!mute 1378773634554003569
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @sweet agate until <t:1748799958:f> (1 hour).
jovial merlin
im making pong :0
candid spire
Hey opal mist please pay me bro i fucked you mother bro
Damm he made a new account
astral coral
can I have streaming perms 🥹
candid spire
Insane
vocal basin
!e """print(f'{1 + 2 = }')"""
exec(doc)
wise cargoBOT
!e """print(f'{1 + 2 = }')"""
exec(__doc__)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 + 2 = 3
@somber heath @astral coral
astral coral
yeeeee?
jovial merlin
opalmist was timed out @vocal basin
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> the code analyser?
yes
somber heath
opalmist was timed out <@264054779888533515>
Quite certain of that, are you?
jovial merlin
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied **timeout** to <@1378773634554003569> unti...
^
peak depot
read the name, once more
cobalt vortex
wtf is that
jovial merlin
oh my bad
cobalt vortex
@somber heath do u know him?
jovial merlin
but yea lx can i have streaming perms?
vocal basin
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied **timeout** to <@1378773634554003569> unti...
superstarifiable
candid spire
^
Definitely the same guy with account, he is insane
Got banned and made a new one
Just for this
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> do u know him?
Well, apparently well enough that I need to be calling them daddy, now.
wise loom
@vocal basin snippet from my notes
Interesting static analyzers:
* https://github.com/honeycombio/gritql
* https://github.com/semgrep/semgrep
* https://github.com/facebook/infer
* https://github.com/qundao/mirror-mergiraf
wtf
cobalt vortex
Well, apparently well enough that I need to be calling them daddy, now.
na i meant like he just random or u two had fought before
feels like i am missing the plot
peak depot
na i meant like he just random or u two had fought before
most likely Hellomiter
cobalt vortex
most likely Hellomiter
maybe
candid spire
You know I fuck your mother 👩
Definitely this guy made the account
astral coral
jovial merlin
most likely Hellomiter
yup
vocal basin
weekend
stuck furnace
but yea lx can i have streaming perms?
Sorry, just trying to figure out what our policy is about granting streaming perms if the person hasn't voice verified yet.
vocal basin
nvm I realised that my question was wrong
it would make sense for NOR to NOT conversion
stuck furnace
Oh, would you still like streaming permissions?
Or is your issue resolved?
Ah ok
!stream 862284694497263636 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @stark oxide can now stream until <t:1748799054:f>.
jovial merlin
if i can could i get some too?
astral coral
me too pwease
jovial merlin
im just wanting to stream what im coding idk
stuck furnace
That's a Zachtronics game right?
jovial merlin
oh alr, i guess i cant get stream perms then
cobalt vortex
oh alr, i guess i cant get stream perms then
we need to unmute to stream?
jovial merlin
we need to unmute to stream?
apparently, idk @primal shadow said so
i do have all the reqs for talking appart from the 3 days thing
just waiting on that ig
cobalt vortex
apparently, idk <@221417491136512010> said so
i dont get it but noted
primal shadow
jovial merlin
we need to unmute to stream?
but i think he meant you need voice perms but not nececerily unmute but idk
cobalt vortex
but i think he meant you need voice perms but not nececerily unmute but idk
yeh maybe
astral coral
me too pwease
I just wanted to be included ; _ ; you all hit me with newspapers ; _ ;
stuck furnace
What logic gate are you trying to make?
stark oxide
NOR gate
stark oxide
np
shadow shale
what is the game called? :)
somber heath
@gray bough 👋
gray bough
whole rover
!stream 1319370380078743584
wise cargoBOT
✅ @jovial merlin can now stream until <t:1748798411:f>.
cobalt vortex
@jovial merlinnice
stuck furnace
Ah you've done it @stark oxide
whole rover
@stark oxide game name pls
stuck furnace
@stark oxide I find with these things, try to express it in plain language
Yeah, what fkorstyzz said
stuck furnace
So before, when you were tryin to implement NOR, you could have first implemented OR which is "not neither".
somber heath
@restive hemlock 👋
stuck furnace
I xor this one before
jovial merlin
✅ <@1319370380078743584> can now stream until <t:1748798411:f>.
ty @whole rover
somber heath
I _xor_ this one before
And?
primal shadow
stuck furnace
Did you guys ever use Karnaugh maps?
shadow shale
jovial merlin
what is like a super basic app i could try making in qt
stuck furnace
It's not full stack unless you're using a soldering iron
stuck furnace
what is like a super basic app i could try making in qt
To-do list?
Kind of boring sorry 😄
jovial merlin
dayum
whole rover
19 relays to test insulation resistance in a 19 core socapex cable
stark oxide
it's the first day so not bad
jovial merlin
wait how did i find this discord then?
i forgot lol
i thought it was discovery lol
stuck furnace
i thought it was discovery lol
You might have searched for it?
whole rover
jovial merlin
like the search for servers on discord
stark oxide
or if you want educational it's also there
jovial merlin
that like only servers that have over 1k can go on
stuck furnace
probably yea
Also a lot of our traffic comes through pythondiscord.com, I think
Covid was 2020 I think 🤔
jovial merlin
Also a lot of our traffic comes through pythondiscord.com, I think
yea might have been that
jovial merlin
what is normally in "other"
stuck furnace
what is normally in "other"
Notes
vocal basin
I do find it funny that there is 57 and 179 consecutively but that's way too much of an in-joke
#define PI 179/57
astral coral
I really wouldn't do well in a dark cave ¬¬
jovial merlin
do i get voice perms toomorow or is it the day after?
like does the day i joined count as one of the days in the 3
astral coral
type !user in bot channel
wise cargoBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
astral coral
day after tomorrow
whole rover
it is 3 days exactly to the timestamp that you joined
jovial merlin
day after tomorrow
darn
astral coral
yeah, soz bud
stuck furnace
was people like spam joining or smth
Yeah lots of drive-by trolls
jovial merlin
fair enough
stuck furnace
People joining and screaming and that sort of thing
astral coral
please don't pull the trigger @whole rover ; _ ;
jovial merlin
@primal shadow fr?
stuck furnace
And some servers do have specific rules that might trip you up
Like, spambot honeypot channels 😄
astral coral
fkorstyzz said "it's not like any mod has a gun to your head" (context the voice chat requirements being moaned about) I said you because it could be plausible since you also live in the UK
whole rover
ah lol
terse needle
I made it through my first year at uon @whole rover 😁
whole rover
I made it through my first year at uon <@165023948638126080> 😁
MACHINE
astral coral
god I wanna drill this part of my brain
jovial merlin
crazy
whole rover
you are ECE right @terse needle ?
jovial merlin
terse needle
you are ECE right <@412009418670997536> ?
yes, good memory
whole rover
hahahaha i have a lot of friends in EE
terse needle
it was a hard choice but honestly it was right for me
terse needle
hahahaha i have a lot of friends in EE
Do you know Fred or Adrian?
whole rover
my friend has just finished up second year of the MEng program
hmmm i do not
I know a great man called Isaac and a guy who graduated last year called Nick
terse needle
oh, I know quite a few of Second and Third years because I do a lot at Formula Student
terse needle
is he a foundation year?
whole rover
very potentially let me see
stuck furnace
isnt that discovery?
Oh sorry, I missed this. We're still findable through discovery search, but we're not featured on the Science and Tech page.
terse needle
I didn't know you were still at uon I thought you would have left by now
whole rover
very potentially yes
nah lol 4 years
took my 3rd year out but stayed around nottingham doing research
terse needle
oh 😂 different guy
terse needle
took my 3rd year out but stayed around nottingham doing research
ah I see
whole rover
so just finished my exams
terse needle
I like Jubilee so much but I confined to Coates all of the time
whole rover
my condolences
terse needle
bloody C25
terse needle
yes
It's been quite annoying
I'm not quite done with exams
I have a viva tomorrow and a presentation on Friday
so kinda done
whole rover
oh yeah that's right my friend has his second year viva at some point or has had something recently
whole rover
It's been quite annoying
yeah my girlfriend does natsci so is in pope and george green and has been trolled by this gas leak for however long it's been ongoing lol
terse needle
yeah my girlfriend does natsci so is in pope and george green and has been troll...
I hate GG so much
hallward supremacy
whole rover
i was big on hallward first year because I was in derby hall
but second year onwards i just realised that the computer science building is better in every way lol
performant PCs and guaranteed space
terse needle
I'm in Rutland so it's just a walk up a hill
whole rover
i thought the roof was falling off Rutland
then again that's most buildings on campus
terse needle
that was last year
terse needle
I've had all of my lectures the past two semesters in a "large seminar room"
alpine crater
👋
terse needle
isn't that being sold
whole rover
yeah :^(
though the current rumour is warhammer is buying it and leasing some space back to the university lol
whole rover
this storeroom is on kmc
terse needle
oh fair enough
I forgot warhammer was based in notts
although you see it on the tram
it's pretty cool
whole rover
yeah their whole complex is crazy
we got a tour of it and then got a tour of the power station in one day lol
weird day
whole rover
is your degree programme one where you don't get any optionals until like year 3
terse needle
yes.
vocal kite
@jovial merlin can i know what software/editor you are using to edit
terse needle
I've toyed with the idea of picking some CS modules in third year. I think I would enjoy it but not sure if it is worth it for my degree
vc1 @whole rover
jovial merlin
<@1319370380078743584> can i know what software/editor you are using to edit
im using zed
theres a windows build made by community but rn its only officialy on linux and mac
vocal kite
theres a windows build made by community but rn its only officialy on linux and ...
Oh ok thanks brother
jovial merlin
Oh ok thanks brother
i had an easy to use windows build that my friend sent and was gonna send it but my friend deleted it so idk
vocal kite
i had an easy to use windows build that my friend sent and was gonna send it but...
Got it,Thanks for the information
jovial merlin
Got it,Thanks for the information
yw
are you on windows, linux or mac?
@versed heath i wouldent learn programming at school tbh
stark oxide
@versed heath your internet IS realy BAD
stark oxide
<@958057865032106045> i wouldent learn programming at school tbh
what course would you recomend?
I want to learn of a course and not school but can't find a good course or site to learn from?
@jovial merlin
jovial merlin
I want to learn of a course and not school but can't find a good course or site ...
roadmap.sh is pretty good apparently
but my advice is just start coding tbh
if you dont know how to do something your wanting to do in whatever programming language just look it up
amber raptor
Don't spend money on learning coding, the entry level market bottom has dropped out
stark oxide
alpine crater
I got told off for using regex once on a test
idk what you are gonna ask, but rust /s
stark oxide
what programming langauge is the best for ethical hacker or micro services?
or is it user specific?
astral coral
hey @stuck furnace wanna see the crappy Python propaganda I made?
stark oxide
zak are you dutch?
astral coral
no, british
amber raptor
https://coddy.tech/journeys/default
Looks fine, I wouldn't spend money on it
alpine crater
Mint
stark oxide
THAT'S A ME LUIGI
astral coral
❤️
stark oxide
Not mario that's my stupid little brother
astral coral
:L
vocal basin
almost 500 lines for a single type
time for a small match statement
astral coral
alpine crater
time for a small `match` statement
where macros
vocal basin
where macros
too many different details to generalise for now
alpine crater
this is how I define my big enum ```rust
define_pseudo_class!(
active, autofill, checked, default, defined, disabled, empty, enabled, first, focus,
hover, indeterminate, invalid, link, modal, optional, required, root, scope, target,
valid, visited;
AnyLink => "any-link",
FirstChild => "first-child", FirstOfType => "first-of-type",
FocusVisible => "focus-visible", FocusWithin => "focus-within",
InRange => "in-range", OutOfRange => "out-of-range",
LastChild => "last-child", LastOfType => "last-of-type",
OnlyChild => "only-child", OnlyOfType => "only-of-type",
PlaceholderShown => "placeholder-shown", PopoverOpen => "popover-open",
ReadOnly => "read-only", ReadWrite => "read-write",
UserInvalid => "user-invalid", UserValid => "user-valid";
Dir(Direction): Dir(dir) => format!("dir({})", dir.short()), "dir";
Lang(&'static str): Lang(lang) => format!("lang({lang})"), "lang";
NthChild(NthArgument): NthChild(arg) => format!("nth-child({})", arg.into_css()), "nth-child";
NthLastChild(NthArgument): NthLastChild(arg) => format!("nth-last-child({})", arg.into_css()), "nth-last-child";
NthLastOfType(NthArgument): NthLastOfType(arg) => format!("nth-last-of-type({})", arg.into_css()), "nth-last-of-type";
NthOfType(NthArgument): NthOfType(arg) => format!("nth-of-type({})", arg.into_css()), "nth-of-type";
);
maybe later will go through macros
I kind of need to control how it gets serde'd
field by field
alpine crater
oh god, well good luck
vocal basin
small database project already grew to 30'000 lines
stuck furnace
@primal shadow I've got to go 👋
Which means you may have to end your stream sorry
👀
Well, yeah 😄
If you ask Hemlock when he's around I'm sure he'll grant you the streaming role
Yeah fair enough
Anyway, cya 👋
vocal basin
where macros
I can go insane levels of codegen with this codebase, but that would be way harder to debug
so for now I'm okay with quite a lot of duplicate code
alpine crater
I can go insane levels of codegen with this codebase, but that would be way hard...
I did actually find a bug in a macro I was using in this macro doing this xD
vocal basin
I have some other project which has something like 12 derive macros
but those are relatively easy generally
alpine crater
AS1100K/pastey#14
viscid lagoonBOT
alpine crater
really strange one as well, no clue why it happens
vocal basin
vocal basin
https://docs.rs/object-rainbow-derive/latest/src/object_rainbow_derive/lib.rs.ht...
most of the issues were because of type system bugs rather than the macro writing itself
type system bugs as in rustc bugs
but I found workarounds
for example, Rust sometimes erroneously assumes that two types are same
so I just made a hacky Thing<T, const N: usize> wrapper to force it not to
it just increments N for each field
alpine crater
brb
vocal basin
I'm seriously considering using typetag more extensively
might be an actual sane idea
gusty oriole
Hello!
alpine crater
and back
vocal kite
are you on windows, linux or mac?
Windows
tulip gyro
haughty pier
tulip gyro