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#voice-chat-text-0
gusty oriole
ah
gusty oriole
okey
obsidian dragon
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-hello-chat-gif-17407572284964392117
no
paper wolf
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-hello-chat-gif-17407572284964392117
everyone is here
well on #voice-chat-text-0
paper wolf
worm
gusty oriole
paper wolf
its def not meu :3
gusty oriole
I was developped jpeg encoder in cpp
same quality compared to mozjpeg
Oh I once trained LLM
sacred urchin
Openai does censor, I got blocked to use Openai because I asked about the CIA and it's wrong doing
whole tusk
lol
sacred urchin
I'm serious
paper wolf
You guys know the research where they let the ChatGPT to manage a vending machines business
whole tusk
yea then it did somethung bad
ripe viper
You guys know the research where they let the ChatGPT to manage a vending machin...
huh??
can somebody give me a link to that research?
ripe viper
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2502.15840
thanks
astral coral
I'm thinking about getting mistral for two projects and finetuning it for a) NPC ai in video games and b) as a like supplement for guys who need help dating
ripe viper
yep
paper wolf
Interesting isn't
ripe viper
yeah
ripe viper
lol
paper wolf
it's a USB-C cable killer
It's you not the phone.....
The phone is just a machine doing that you told it to do
paper wolf
Don't buy cable from temu π
proven plover
vocal basin
Don't buy cable from temu π
Don't buy cable from temu
cobalt vortex
what are we doing this for?
proven plover
ai project xD
cobalt vortex
bruh why do when i join i only hear such dark stories π π
not like these π
i mean i was stuck in an elevator once that was terrifying
like 14 to 20 min
yeh π
yeh like there was no space
wise loom
i mean i was stuck in an elevator once that was terrifying
better have that water bottle with you..
until the elevator service comes, you know what to do
cobalt vortex
better have that water bottle with you..
until the elevator service comes, you k...
π thanks
is it better working on a project in a group or alone?
i mean in a team u could learn from others but alone it is just convenient on ur own
i mean sometimes i am short tempered 'sometimes'
like i dont like being bossed around
yeh i started working in projects for building a frontend website and i was kind of the lead but it was so stressful nobody fuckin worked π
wind raptor
It happens so often
cobalt vortex
yeh
sour willow
yeh i started working in projects for building a frontend website and i was kind...
either play the game or get played by it
sour willow
tomcat go brrrrrr
aerospace and computers go very well
but its one of the hardest jobs
cobalt vortex
yeh lol
sour willow
that was like 9 incidents
and besides that same machine saved soo many lives
as far as i know
and no your wrong
the issue was when the cursor would go over a certain thing (its a swedish cheese typa thing) that would happen where it would kill the person
its not even the critical part, you'd have to work with soo many other people, and you must be knowledgeable way beyond coding
and also no army general is gonna have a fun time with you when your the main cause of a 2 billion dollar f35 crashing
cobalt vortex
i mean aerospace is not always about fighter jets and rockets
i mean there is analysis stuff and drones maybe
whole bear
in order to get into lockheed you must be smarter than elon musk
sour willow
making websites is not at all close to making microwaves and is not at all close to working for boeing
cobalt vortex
making websites is not at all close to making microwaves and is not at all close...
yeh but maybe ai and data
whole bear
elon just made the worlds first hypersonic jet
cobalt vortex
it has huge industry application in drones and radar and stuff
cobalt vortex
elon just made the worlds first hypersonic jet
sour willow
If your working with an actual aerospace company your gonna work with physicians,mathematicians, engineers
like crazy
whole bear
"quants"
cobalt vortex
damn thats a gr8 difference
whole bear
there is a general consensus mathematicians are smarter than physicians
sour willow
there is a general consensus mathematicians are smarter than physicians
bruh what
cobalt vortex
@dry jasper getting in the car while u driving seems scary π π
whole bear
thats what reddit says so i have to agree
whole bear
i had read that in order to get into the world of 'quants' math is the best major , followed by physicist, then engineer and cs
engineer=cs
sour willow
@dry jasper just so you realize supersonic doesnt only apply to aero
cobalt vortex
i had read that in order to get into the world of 'quants' math is the best majo...
what is left ??
cobalt vortex
air is a fluid
sour willow
No, supersonic flow in air is not strictly linear. While linearized supersonic theory is used as an approximation, particularly for small perturbations, real supersonic flow is characterized by non-linear effects and shock waves. This is due to the density and pressure changes that occur as air becomes supersonic.
whole bear
Linearized supersonic flow theory assumes flow perturbations are small, and propagate along Mach waves with an angle equal to the freestream Mach angle.
Shock-expansion theory relaxes this assumption a little bit by evaluating the local change in Mach angle and flow direction, moving downstream. Through shockwaves the flow angle and Mach angle will increase, and through expansion waves, the flow angle and Mach angle will decrease. Consequently, thicker bodies can be evaluated. This is still limited to thin geometries in most cases though, because for low Mach numbers and/or high deflection angles, a weak shock solution does not exist. A shock with no weak solution is often referred to as a βdetachedβ shock, which results in regions of subsonic flow. Other techniques must be used to solve flow fields with both subsonic and supersonic flow.
which i think means its non linear
spark girder
Linearized supersonic flow theory assumes flow perturbations are small, and prop...
I love Linearized Supersonic Flow Theory because the entire basis is "But I wanna use linear equations". I mean like yes there's more to it but the literal explanation was "The Linearized Supersonic Flow Theory assumes small perturbations to the flow, meaning the flow is only slightly perturbed from a perfect freestream. The assumption of small deviations allows the use of linear equations to describe the behavior of the flow, and perturbations are treates as traveling along Mach waves, which have a fixed angle equal to the freestream Mach angle."
When mathematicians get lazy
whole bear
have you heard of stochastic calculus
haughty pier
yes, but why do you ask?
whole bear
Stochastic calculus is used because it provides a mathematical framework for dealing with random processes and phenomena, particularly those with uncertainty or randomness.
as a 'hopefully one day' machine learning engineer , should i learn c++ along with python
ripe viper
Don't buy cable from temu π
ikea
short owl
thats cool - I learned something @whole bear
whole bear
Eleven-year-old Indian-origin twins, Krish and Keira Arora, were admitted to the elite Mensa membership club of children with a combined IQ of 314. Krish was the first of the twins to be accepted after scoring 162, which is believed to be higher than Albert Einstein's estimated score of 160. here is the new elon musks of the world lol
dry jasper
whole bear
hello freinds
would any of you take a job working for elon musk if you had the chance
short owl
Elon is a workaholic , and drives everybody around him crazy
marble mantle
Eleven-year-old Indian-origin twins, Krish and Keira Arora, were admitted to the...
combined iq
combined how exactly?
marble mantle
Elon is a workaholic , and drives everybody around him crazy
spending most of work time arguing on twitter is not workaholism
marble mantle
so just a meaningless number
whole bear
elon said everyone cannot go home until the work is done...they have to eat/sleep at the office 24 hours a day
and have to work all day long
short owl
yes
whole bear
with no pay
marble mantle
thats not workaholic, thats called a criminal
short owl
lots of burn out - over there
whole bear
he is doing alot of world firsts
marble mantle
Eleven-year-old Indian-origin twins, Krish and Keira Arora, were admitted to the...
!e
from math import erfc
print(f"{erfc(.5 ** .5 * ((162 - 100) / 15)):%}")
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
from math import erfc
print(f"{erfc(.5 ** .5 * ((162 - 100) / 15)):%}")...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
0.003575%
just means top ^that high^ in a list
whole bear
yeah those kids must have really good genetics
marble mantle
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
```ansi...
correction: half that
f"{.5 * erfc(.5 ** .5 * ((iq - 100) / 15)):%}"
whole bear
how can i make money
marble mantle
find a job
marble mantle
java enterprise
astral coral
!e
```py
from math import erfc
print(f"{erfc(.5 ** .5 * ((162 - 100) / 15)):%}")...
did you just workout the std of this XD
haughty pier
... shaking that ass
dude, not sure if that's Safe For Python
haughty pier
astral coral
thingy made $4.18
omg my brain ¬¬ I'm forcing myself while stressed to do shit ¬¬
maybe give myself an hour and not just wake up and stare at code
paper wolf
average developer:
sonic smelt
hello
wassup guys
why do some guys use just vim over intellij and pycharm?
vim is terminal editor you wont get to use mouse right
well, even without it, how do you guys code so fast?
@whole bear
gloomy herald
@haughty pierwhat u are doin
spring kraken
@whole bear https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware is what you need to enable "microsoft-surface-pro-intel"
somber heath
@halcyon compass π
paper wolf
hey opal mist your japanese sound off
somber heath
@lost aurora π
paper wolf
your accent is too hard for japanese
somber heath
@solar sierra π
astral coral
cleaning
astral coral
Bill Gates too Autistic too make a clean OS
astral coral
Zak too Autistic to tell the difference between too and to
astral coral
smig
paper wolf
sup ik
somber heath
static noise?
It sounds like analogue whine from your audio cable setup.
Like a bad connection.
paper wolf
Like a bad connection.
its static cus my laptop is grounded
twin zinc
was goin on?
paper wolf
i can feel low current electrecution...
somber heath
It doesn't sound like it's static.
paper wolf
painful if you touch pointy part
iron geyser
@wise loom Yo ^^ i am bebou mdr
somber heath
@wraith jetty π
wise loom
<@264657660190654464> Yo ^^ i am bebou mdr
i know, hi
paper wolf
it still have medical purpose tho
med talk π£οΈ
what π
its ik null
@warm trellis
its "ik null"
it is...
wise loom
insert NODE next_node; at the top of find_node ?
wise loom
next_node will return a int...
you're right, next_node is an index in the nodes vector
paper wolf
look on the else block
it would be define
wise loom
look on the else block
so, maybe lift that from there, a few lines up, so it can be available inside the while loop too?
paper wolf
its gonna get defined anyways π
wise loom
huh? no, it's defined in that small scope
you need it in the entire scope of the function, because you're using it in the while loop
paper wolf
you need it in the entire scope of the function, because you're using it in the ...
it should work cus that will be defined no matter what
it same even if its inside that else block
or not
wise loom
or not
as per your screenshot, next_node is only available currently inside the else branch.
if you want it available on a broader scope, define it at the beginning of the function.
paper wolf
sus
so else block is a local block?
anything created inside is only available inside?
god sake why
wise loom
anything created inside is only available inside?
correct
turbid knoll
hello ! i do not yet qualify lmao, will talk whenever 3 days have passed ahaha
paper wolf
what?
turbid knoll
i can't voice verify lol, cause i just joined ahah
paper wolf
ohh
turbid knoll
what r u guys up to?
wise loom
i can't voice verify lol, cause i just joined ahah
check https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/764802555427029012 for the conditions to get voice verified.
paper wolf
what r u guys up to?
previously they are talking about drugs and drug adiction
turbid knoll
check https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/764802555427029012 for the...
yes yes i've seen that, but i just joined the server so i don't meet the requirements, lol
turbid knoll
how'd you get your background to be cool??
turbid knoll
well its a terminal
sorry if my questions are dumb, i started learning python about a week ago so i'm not yet seasoned at all ahaha
paper wolf
insert `NODE next_node;` at the top of `find_node` ?
this will not work
turbid knoll
and it has that option by default
that's cool
paper wolf
cus int& need declaration
turbid knoll
sorry if my questions are dumb, i started learning python about a week ago so i'...
so far i've learned a lot of stuff tho !! and I managed to program a simple rock paper scissors game against the pc :)
turbid knoll
its againts a RNG tho...
yes sure, but it's my first project, i only did it to start learning python :P
paper wolf
i mean by rng is random number generator
what guys doing?
!source @worthy timber
wait
!resources
paper wolf
me???
im not understanding lmao
i ping you cus you where murmuring that you want resources to learn stuff
import god
dont mean it literally
@lethal shell go on #βο½how-to-get-help
ill sugges learn web development first
true
the first impression is kinda the hardest part
especialy for those who dont have good looks
i cant relax with my c++ school project
π₯²
uhhhhh english please...
dry jasper
somber heath
lethal shell
Quack
lethal shell
Im a duck
lethal shell
mhm
also my parents never gave me attention
@astral coral quack
@dry jasper Quack
astral coral
O.O
lethal shell
o.o
rugged root
I am here but no speaky
lethal shell
we sp[eak in a different language
rugged root
Partial Hem
Pseudo Hem, if you will
If you had socks made from crocodile skin, would they be sockodiles?
@peak depot At least it got done
lethal shell
ahh cutting onions make me cry...
rugged root
@dry jasper "And I just can't hide it"
rugged root
ahh cutting onions make me cry...
I've never had that happen to me. I've gotten the burning but never the eye watering
astral coral
I really can't think off a witty come back XD
peak depot
rugged root
Damnit Gary
dry jasper
dammit car
copper adder
damet garm
rugged root
Ah okay
copper adder
Ψ―Ω Ψͺ Ϊ―Ψ±Ω
rugged root
Neat
dry jasper
rugged root
I farded
lethal shell
what is going on?
rugged root
I have no idea. I'm having my second monster
I'm going to regret many things
@worthy timber You're really quiet
No no no
Monster energy drink
somber heath
Olympus Monsters. π πΎ
rugged root
So is it all just based on context clues at that point?
@astral coral Did Chris go ahead and restore your video perms?
astral coral
yeeeeeee
rugged root
Good
rugged root
@short spruce Please do not attempt to purchase or rent other accounts
It's highly against their terms of service
copper adder
rugged root
In fairness Shakespeare makes little sense now as it is
dry jasper
Madar (madar) to nafase man hasti
Az shadegie hamishe berakhsi
Hich sani nemitooneh jaaye toro war dare
Ino mikhunam ke khodaham bavar kone
Madar (madar) to nafase man hasti
Az shadegie hamishe berakhsi
Hich sani nemitooneh jaaye toro war dare
Ino mikhunam ke khodaham bavar kone
rugged root
@copper adder We're getting background noise from you
copper adder
Madar (madar) to nafase man hasti
Az shadegie hamishe berakhsi
Hich sani nemitoo...
Madar (madar) to nafase man hasti
Az shadegie hamishe beraghsi
Hich zani nemitooneh jaaye toro var dare
Ino mikhunam ke khoda ham bavar kone
Madar (madar) to nafase man hasti
Az shadegie hamishe beraghsi
Hich sani nemitooneh jaaye toro var dare
Ino mikhunam ke khodaham bavar kone
rugged root
Can you mute when you're not talking, Ali? We're just getting a lot of background noise
All good
dry jasper
rugged root
Everywhere in the world is locking things down again
lethal shell
ehh political wars
rugged root
The pendulum is swinging back to the right
lethal shell
best commedy ever
rugged root
@primal shadow Sup
dry jasper
mir geht es gut
primal shadow
hello
lethal shell
Near gate is scoot
disapointed
rugged root
Same
chilly obsidian
yo chat whats a bfs
rugged root
better file system
lethal shell
the fuck was that?
rugged root
What was what
somber heath
yo chat whats a bfs
Breadth first search?
rugged root
And if German doesn't have a word for it, it'll slam all the words together until it has one
primal shadow
rugged root
We have that in English as well
What is a hard drive or solid state drive in German?
lethal shell
@astral coral what was that you doing there?
rugged root
I still don't know what nvme stands for
Never checked
That sounds right
No that sounds accurate
primal shadow
Non-Volatile Memory Express
astral coral
something stupid I'm working on
rugged root
Ah right, Express in this case being PCI-E
Since it uses the same connection I think
primal shadow
NVMe (Non-Volatile Memory Express)
rugged root
Oh right, PCIe
Which is express in that context as well
Spanish is neat
I should have paid more attention to it in high school
somber heath
how does that work
I could explain...poorly...but I'm also tired.
rugged root
"The most spoken if you ignore the actually most spoken language"
lethal shell
oh I like stupid π
rugged root
As a second language, got it
chilly obsidian
I could explain...poorly...but I'm also tired.
explain poorly with non-programmer language
primal shadow
rugged root
Do you have actual money in there or is it just doing mock exchanges for now?
astral coral
mock :L
vocal basin
as second language
rugged root
Good
astral coral
yeah no fuck that
rugged root
Huh
lethal shell
I am working on my pasta
rugged root
English makes sense
lethal shell
π
vocal basin
lethal shell
English makes sense
Quack
rugged root
We were only caring about second language
Interesting that they exclude creole
Oh okay that makes sense, I forgot it's a combined english and french lang
@dry jasper If we go by what you said as a second language, French crushes, yeah
Which nation?
lethal shell
@dry jasper π
rugged root
Ascension?
vocal basin
Which nation?
Holy Roman Empire
somber heath
explain poorly with non-programmer language
Depth first search adds to the right and pops from the right. Breath first adds to the right and pops from the left.
Adding to the stack indicates a discovered node to be processed. Popping from the stack involves also checking that node.
As nodes are processed, its reviewed neighbors are added to the stack. If a node path is exhausted/is a dead end, it is discarded and the next node in the stack is popped.
vocal basin
Depth first search adds to the right and pops from the right. Breath first adds ...
d
breadth
chilly obsidian
Depth first search adds to the right and pops from the right. Breath first adds ...
like bfs will get the current options of a node?
somber heath
The point is, breadth first and depth first are the same algorithm with one small difference between them.
vocal basin
.xkcd 2407
viscid lagoonBOT
candid spire
Christianity itself has so many sects in the US that it's difficult to use it in a political way without losing one side.
Maybe this could be the reason behind little to no christian radicalism
chilly obsidian
like bfs will get the current options of a node?
instead of just digging a hole like dfs?
vocal basin
also isn't bfs a big file scanner on α΄Ι΄Ιͺx or whatever
okay, bsd, thankfully, doesn't have that stand for that
chilly obsidian
bfs looks scary
somber heath
@hexed timber π
vocal basin
also isn't `bfs` a big file scanner on α΄Ι΄Ιͺx or whatever
1MB iirc
@dry jasper android
vocal basin
maybe I should visit the island it's named after
copper adder
vocal basin
maybe I should visit the island it's named after
maybe I even have
vocal basin
also isn't `bfs` a big file scanner on α΄Ι΄Ιͺx or whatever
what a horrifying URL
tf I'm looking at
chilly obsidian
anyone got yt links for indian coders teaching stuffs
candid spire
anyone got yt links for indian coders teaching stuffs
Links?
vocal basin
anyone got yt links for indian coders teaching stuffs
is this Indian enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hQvWIdwnw4
candid spire
yes channel links
These are channels I would suggest :
Chaiwithcode
Codewithharry
Telusko
Codestoryshanghai
vocal basin
Venkat Subramaniam is a great speaker
chilly obsidian
is this Indian enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hQvWIdwnw4
im more expecting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Zw6xOGly0
candid spire
These are channels I would suggest :
Chaiwithcode
Codewithharry
Telusko
Codestor...
Abdul bari
chilly obsidian
thanks
chilly obsidian
These are channels I would suggest :
Chaiwithcode
Codewithharry
Telusko
Codestor...
does chaiwithcode uses yt?
candid spire
does chaiwithcode uses yt?
Yes
vocal basin
@gentle flint vibe jira
lethal shell
Quack
chilly obsidian
He does have an english channel as well ig
might learn hindi soon
vocal basin
@peak depot "angry sun that's about to melt everything off the face of the Earth" type of sunny
candid spire
might learn hindi soon
Ha ha, use caption
lethal shell
why? @chilly obsidian
candid spire
@chilly obsidian Telusko would be best if you like to learn in english.
vocal basin
im more expecting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Zw6xOGly0
I'm aware of a certain Russian channel that parodies that
focused on "teaching" Python
chilly obsidian
<@733529973196849152> Telusko would be best if you like to learn in english.
u mean this?
candid spire
Yes
chilly obsidian
why? <@733529973196849152>
his vids is in hindi
lethal shell
ah...
copper adder
https://discord.gg/B7tqy6c9 live hacking
candid spire
@chilly obsidian
https://youtube.com/@hiteshcodelab?si=9C_1fM-QZLfoYExz
Here's his english channel
chilly obsidian
<@733529973196849152>
https://youtube.com/@hiteshcodelab?si=9C_1fM-QZLfoYExz
H...
nice
+1 guy invited to my marriage.
vocal basin
the what just released
candid spire
I got Chinese, Vietnamese channel as well would you like to learn from them?
chilly obsidian
I got Chinese, Vietnamese channel as well would you like to learn from them?
list them all
my my.... cant imagine what its gonna be like in my marriage.... full of dsalgo experts
candid spire
Nvm
vocal basin
the what just released
@peak depot epic metal collab from 20 minutes ago
vocal basin
I'm aware of a certain *Russian* channel that parodies that
oh, he got banned I think
well, kind of expected
candid spire
oh, he got banned I think
Who?
vocal basin
pythonistrash
or one of the channels reuploading his videos
I have no idea what platform the original is on
well, to be more precise, he is not really parodying tutorials
more of his own cursed niche
chilly obsidian
pythonistrash
what does python do to get this much hate from him
rugged root
Dude, I've had two Monster energy drinks and I'm still tired
chilly obsidian
just a channel name
for views i suppose
vocal basin
I'm in a first story building
safe environment
rugged root
Don't die
candid spire
what happend
Some of them have inappropriate name
rugged root
Back in a sec
chilly obsidian
Some of them have inappropriate name
:))) i have no idea what is inside genius heads
copper adder
I'm bored. I want to do something.
somebody have any idea?
chilly obsidian
<@733529973196849152>
Here is the name of the creator :-
Naomi Wu
.... thanks
wait nvm no thank you
gotta delete my history
copper adder
Animmo you'r here? @dry jasper
dry jasper
Animmo you'r here? <@381154715293188106>
yes
candid spire
@chilly obsidian If you do have access to bilibili, use it.
You will find many folks over there!
chilly obsidian
i think i deserve a ban
dry jasper
Do you have an idea for a group project? I want to do something
not really
chilly obsidian
<@733529973196849152> If you do have access to bilibili, use it.
You will find m...
is it chinese yt?
candid spire
is it chinese yt?
Yep
copper adder
not really
can i have your github to see your projects?
gentle flint
copper adder
eat it
chilly obsidian
<@733529973196849152> If you do have access to bilibili, use it.
You will find m...
wdym by "many folks";)
copper adder
give it to me if you don't want it? @gentle flint
gentle flint
vocal basin
@haughty pier @gentle flint "true sysadmins use ed"
haughty pier
vocal basin
"you should start a pycharm dev container each time, mounting your config dir into it"
I've had to debug software on Astra Linux before
such a pile of garbage
Astra Linux containers running on Astra Linux host
why would you ever
haughty pier
last night's commit: https://github.com/aaronchall/config/commit/e0777eed105325c51e78fc9bab1c1637d63963d0
lethal shell
is github a some sort of church?
vocal basin
Astra seems to be Debian-based
vocal basin
is github a some sort of church?
no, NixOS is
amber raptor
vocal basin
β¨ written in Rust β¨
underlying tech is interesting
oh wait no
Go
I'm confusing with something else
TiKV
TiKV is in Rust
@rugged root you can extend postgres with a mongo interface
DocumentDB/FerretDB
wind raptor
Hey @midnight agate π
How are you doing?
Good here. Just pinning resumes to telephone poles at this point
I'm not even getting rejections
They just don't respond at all
wise cargoBOT
Cargo.lock line 4125
name = "miow"```meow
oh, wow, I did guess correctly that it's Windows
π
I think I know of TiKV because of Raft
oh, I see someone's trying to pretend they're smart because they've watched that one Australian youtuber before
vocal basin
<@536038147600154634> do you know who Kovalchuki are?
if no, you have no clue about internal Russian politics
Kovalchuk and other Kovalchuk
there are multiple
it's surprising how few people even know about them
like inside Russia too
haughty pier
haughty pier
if no, you have no clue about internal Russian politics
sounds like a poor heuristic but perhaps you could explain what you mean.
hallow flame
@haughty pier what's a good python API
vocal basin
sounds like a poor heuristic but perhaps you could explain what you mean.
thanks for confirming. you have no clue about internal Russian politics.
haughty pier
What is Vranyo?
Vranyo plays an important role in defining the relationship between the Russian people and their state. The best way to understand vranyo is to contrast it with another Russian term, lozh. Both lozh and vranyo translate as βfalsehood,β but there is a meaningful distinction. Lozh is a genuine lie: one party says something recognisably false while expecting to be believed. Vranyo, by contrast, describes a story told that both sides know is untrue but nonetheless is responded to as if it were the truth. In Part Four of Dostoyevskyβs The Idiot, General Ardalyon Ivolgin spins Prince Lev Nikolayevich Myshkin a tale claiming to have convinced Napoleon to retreat from Moscow. Myshkin knows the story is false and Ivolgin is likely aware of this fact, yet Ivolgin tells it with a straight face and Mishkin smiles and plays along.
vocal basin
o is stressed in that word, not a
@peak depot and used as an internal spying mechanism
that's how current patriarch got enough influence to reach his current position, in part
hallow flame
@haughty pier can you answer my question bro?
haughty pier
hallow flame
wrong answer
damn
trolled again
I need to talk more
@haughty pier
did you get a new job yet
one that actually pays enough money for you to buy a car
and fix your calve problem
haughty pier
and fix your calve problem
don't have a cow man
vocal basin
and fix your calve problem
hallow flame
when I get voice perms, do I get video perms?
vocal basin
no
hallow flame
does @haughty pier have video perms?
like his camera?
blessed
we are saved
mods dun did a gooder again
Aaron likes smelling shoes
vocal basin
!rule 4
wise cargoBOT
hallow flame
it says - Aaron is a bad girl
vocal basin
for some reason google translate thinks that says Arron not Aaron
hallow flame
for some reason google translate thinks that says Arron not Aaron
it does
it's transliterated
for funnies
it makes more sense in Yiddish
google translate isn't very good with Yiddish and Hebrew
vocal basin
@haughty pier there was a non-English sentence
haughty pier
is there a Ruby role on this server?
we hate Ruby here
it's verboten to even think of it
hallow flame
it's verboten to even think of it
but it's okay to smell shoes
haughty pier
do you still have that video?
haughty pier
we de-GIL'd it
vocal basin
!e ;
wise cargoBOT
!e ;
:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m
002 | [1;31m;[0m
003 | [1;31m^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid syntax[0m
I forgot... can you run multiple pythons with 1 CPU core (non-hyper threaded)?
like can they just pagae allocate different page tables?
hallow flame
ok so...
vocal basin
it's a OS's thing to worry about
hallow flame
if I have 1 CPU core with no threading... I can run them as green threads then?
ok
so we no longer need @haughty pier at his job
we can let him go now
vocal basin
if I have 1 CPU core with no threading... I can run them as green threads then?
just separate processes
or threads
if you only have one processor core, GIL won't slow you down
vocal basin
!source eval
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
there
hallow flame
!e;
wise cargoBOT
hallow flame
!e ;
wise cargoBOT
!e ;
:x: Your 3.14 pre-release eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m
002 | [1;31m;[0m
003 | [1;31m^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid syntax[0m
Python doesn't have true green threads, it has coroutines, GIL-restricted OS threads and multiprocessing (multiple interpreters)
hallow flame
so Aaron and I plan to make an AI to help us generate money so we can retire
hallow flame
Python doesn't have true green threads, it has coroutines, GIL-restricted OS thr...
so it's still restricted
interesting
I'm not surprised that Aaron Hall would mislead
vocal basin
you need to compile CPython with certain flags to remove GIL
it's now a compilation option
vocal basin
Python doesn't have true green threads, it has coroutines, GIL-restricted OS thr...
true green threads being an upstack abstraction that's mostly transparent to the programmer
Go, Lua, Java
some other languages
Rust pre-1.0
haughty pier
I'm not surprised that Aaron Hall would mislead
I would never mislead you
hallow flame
how many bits does it take to store a 32 bit number in python?
vocal basin
a lot
vocal basin
I'm not surprised that Aaron Hall would mislead
"half-lie is still half-truth"
hallow flame
this is bad
hallow flame
"half-lie is still half-truth"
Aaron is known for this
haughty pier
vocal basin
!e
import sys
x = 0
for _ in range(101): x += 99
# hopefully by now x is not interned
print(sys.getsizeof(x))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
28
approx 224
@peak depot aren't they all fake
the birds
they're all spy drones
compulsive nix condition:
a need to talk about how you've just upgraded nixos every five minutes
Ruby's exception handling used to be exceptionally slow compared to Python
thanks Rails for 400ms compute per request
π
!d os.fork
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
eh
@haughty pier not really, multiprocessing spawns processes a bit more independently
not really fork
!d concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutor
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
this
asynciothreading+queuemultiprocessing
you almost certainly need asyncio
whatever else you're doing, asyncio is the easiest orchestration mechanism
it interoperates with the other two
@hallow flame queues usually
the best mechanism
vocal basin
asyncio is for IO-bound tasks and orchestrating concurrency in general
!d asyncio.loop.run_in_executor
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
^ this is how you combine asyncio with concurrent.futures
yeah, for IO like moving, definitely asyncio
also consider using a proper controller+workers thing where you can just spin up more processes when needed that can take work via ZeroMQ or whatever else
@hallow flame have you measured whether you're hitting 100% core usage?
this is the first thing you must do
do not do anything before you measure
optimisation without measurement is pure guesswork
stream data if possible
@hallow flame that's reading the whole, not opening
you don't need to read the whole file to operate on it
!d mmap
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
if you want to go the funny route
vocal basin
this looks as if you've read the whole file into a bytearray object
but
it doesn't take up ram
@hallow flame how are you taking lines?
for line in file?
iterating not indexing in that case
you must not use file.lines() or whatever it's called
are you processing the file in any way?
okay, first thing: stop reading the whole file into memory
vocal basin
`for line in file`?
do this
open it
don't .read it
no
it doesn't
!e
with open(__file__) as file:
for i, line in enumerate(file):
print(i, line)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0 with open(__file__) as file:
002 |
003 | 1 for i, line in enumerate(file):
004 |
005 | 2 print(i, line)
what you described before sounded like you're doing list(file)
aaaa
something broke
!e
from itertools import batched
from subprocess import check_output
with open(__file__) as file:
for i, lines in enumerate(batched(file, n=2)):
with open(f"out_{i}.txt", "w") as out:
for line in lines:
out.write(line)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
out_0.txt
from itertools import batched
from subprocess import check_output
out_1.txt
with open(__file__) as file:
out_2.txt
for i, lines in enumerate(batched(file, n=2)):
with open(f"out_{i}.txt", "w") as out:
out_3.txt
for line in lines:
out.write(line)
oh look
vocal basin
:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.
`out_0....
@hallow flame something like this? (in this example it splits into chunks of two lines)
wdym less sophisticated
vocal basin
!e
```py
from itertools import batched
from subprocess import check_output
with...
that's the dumbest way possible
ignore the subprocess part
I forgot to remove it
* she not he
vocal basin
!e
```py
from itertools import batched
from subprocess import check_output
with...
^this is just split in Unix
it also has by-size splitting
(the command)
and, if you need that to run in a cluster, just use Manta
whole bear
Okey
haughty pier
*also I'm no longer in those servers*
π¦
vocal basin
and, if you need that to run in a cluster, just use Manta
"just"
also consider using AWK
scarlet halo
vocal basin
if split isn't flexible enough
scarlet halo
47ms
vocal basin
@hallow flame remember how a few minutes ago you talked about vim taking somewhat longer than that to start
scarlet halo
@haughty pier i use arch btw π
scarlet halo
haha
ripe viper
do you fear technology's yes answer should be windows
scarlet halo
-# act like i never said anything
noble mulch
H8
noble mulch
Hi
vocal basin
I'm currently using Windows unfortunately
and Ubuntu
and Ubuntu (another)
and openSUSE
and microOS
and Alpine
I think that's all?
not counting phones
only Windows and openSUSE are non-server ones there
ripe viper
mine are macos, macos, macos, macos, windows, Debian, arch
scarlet halo
nice gift cart bro π
scarlet halo
it was $50
ripe viper
oh
scarlet halo
even better π€
dry jasper
scarlet halo
animmo hop in vc rn
or else
-# jokingggg
bahaha
how do 2 people in the span of 9 minutes get hacked π
and send in the same channel?
marble pendant
hello, good morning
i need help with sumthing python related and i wondered if i could ask here)?
scarlet halo
i need help with sumthing python related and i wondered if i could ask here)?
sorry for the late reply, do you still need help?
marble pendant
yes
actually
however i cannot screen share on the call because i am a new user on the server
so uuh
yeah @scarlet halo
scarlet halo
yea
you can share screenshots and recordings here though
but i dont think that'll be necessary
so, whats up?
marble pendant
wise cargoBOT
Click here to see this code in our pastebin.
marble pendant
the problem is that when i try to select the third option
in quintil selection
it still sums up the quintil bonus var
instead of not summing it up
scarlet halo
line 38 should have some code under it. shouldn't it?
marble pendant
actually idk, i was trying to do it without the elif line but uuuh
the issue was pretty much the same
scarlet halo
interesting that you're using sets instead of lists in the while loops.
doesnt mean anything but just a little interesting...
anyways
oh.
i found the issue!
you see here:
# quintil_bonus
if quintil_choice == "1" or "2":
print("applying bonus")
total_payment += quintil_bonus
python (and most other languages, i think) treat or as a completely new statement. so its saying (quintil_choice == "1") OR ("2") and "2" gets converted into a boolean (to check if the if block should be executed) and any string that isnt "" becomes true
so basically this just means your if statement is always true
marble pendant
so i have to change the or for an and?
scarlet halo
what you want to do instead is ```py
if quintil_choice in {"1","2"}:
oh
scarlet halo
that was a very subtle detail. im surprised i caught up on that lmao
marble pendant
ok so let me get it straight once again so i dont forget
what "OR" did was to make the number 2 a boolean
scarlet halo
not really.
if statements can be true, or false
or means if this or this is true then execute, if one is false, then no biggie
and means if this and that is true then execute, if one is false, then dont execute
in your code you could do
if quintil_choice == "1" or quintil_choice == "2":
but that makes you repeat yourself
which isnt the best
oh yeah, if statements need booleans so thats why the "2" was true
do you understand?
scarlet halo
yeah pretty much
marble pendant
if quintil _choice in {1,2}:
scarlet halo
{} is a set when using {1,2,3} but a dictionary when using {"one":1,"two":2}
scarlet halo
if quintil _choice in {1,2}:
yup
marble pendant
actually that helps a lot
because if i wanna write with normal words i can use a diccionary
marble pendant
could i see an example?
scarlet halo
yeah you want a screenshare? or...?
marble pendant
because i am pretty much not sure of how my implementation will result
scarlet halo
because i am pretty much not sure of how my implementation will result
wdym, whats wrong?
marble pendant
maybe on text?
marble pendant
wdym, whats wrong?
i was thinking of changing {'1','2'} to a diccionary
however, what about the selection part?
scarlet halo
you dont need that here
scarlet halo
okie
scarlet halo
welcome back
marble pendant
the code works fine, still different than my original plan
originally i wanted it to be more word based
like more direct
instead of 2 and 1's, the actual words
however this was truncated by my own implementation
and i have the test in like 2 days so
scarlet halo
ohhh
yeah i got you
uhh
you want me to just feed you code or walk you through it?
scarlet halo
i wasnt going to give you a choice lmao, i'd walk you through it anyways lmao
marble pendant
lmao
scarlet halo
β¨ illusion of free choice β¨
marble pendant
ah yes, you used an if statement not properly written on me
marble pendant
btw 
rulez
marble pendant
yes
scarlet halo
same
marble pendant
i actually use Nvim for the whole plugins and stuff
scarlet halo
yeah same
marble pendant
gentoo linux user here, guilty of charge
scarlet halo
my neovim starts in like 50ms
scarlet halo
yeah
okay anyways lets get back to problem solving
code please, gonna need to see what im teaching
scarlet halo
i can almost guarantee you ive seen and written worse
marble pendant
#Ejercicio 1
#Recordatorio: Los Quintiles son grupos,solo hay 3
print( str(1), '\n' , str(2) , '\n' , str(3), )
print('Seleccione Su Quintil')
#la gente entre el quintil 1 o 2 recibe un bono de 60 mil pesos
#la gente mayor a cierta edad: en este caso a 65, recibe un bono de 40 mil pesos extra
seleccion=int(input())
if seleccion == 1 or 2:
print(' ahora seleccione su condicion de empleo', '\n', '[Empleado?]', '\n', 'o' , '\n' , '[Desempleado?]')
empleo=str(input())
if empleo == 'Empleado' or 'empleado' or 'EMPLEADO':
print("ahora ingrese su edad:")
edad=(input())
if edad > '65' :
subsidio_final = (280000 + 40000 + 60000)
print('Su subsidio de arriendo es', subsidio_final)
if edad < '65' :
subsidio_final = (280000 + 60000)
print('Su subsidio de arriendo es', subsidio_final)
if empleo == 'Desempleado' or 'DESEMPLEADO' or 'desempleado':
print("ahora ingrese su edad:")
edad=(input())
if edad > '65' :
subsidio_final = (350000 + 40000 + 60000)
print('Su subsidio de arriendo es', subsidio_final)
elif edad < '65' :
subsidio_final = (350000 + 60000)
print('Su subsidio de arriendo es', subsidio_final)
#me tomΓ³ un coco y medio pero logrΓ© hacer que esta cosa funcione luego de como una hora, siento la deshonra en mis pelos de los brazos -Jose
Silva
this is the original code, the one before it was interviened by part of the python comunnity
scarlet halo
would be nice if i could read whatever language this is
marble pendant
spanish
scarlet halo
give me the new code π i cant do this
wise cargoBOT
Click here to see this code in our pastebin.
scarlet halo
jeez how many people get hacked per hour
in this server
and more importantly how do you fall for it
anyways
marble pendant
and more importantly how do you fall for it
never got hacked lol
steam is good, but they would never gift ya something
unless it is on an official platform
scarlet halo
never got hacked lol
i got hacked once a really long time ago
wait what is quintil?
marble pendant
i got hacked once a really long time ago
dude that statement started playing once upon a time by toby fox in my head
scarlet halo
scarlet halo
dude that statement started playing once upon a time by toby fox in my head
you know whats crazy
im listening to toby fox rn
not once upon a time
but its the UT sountrack
scarlet halo
π
iron geyser
π
scarlet halo
okay Megalo
marble pendant
yes
karmic rain
what theme is it ?
scarlet halo
!paste
wise cargoBOT
marble pendant
scarlet halo
so what i did is, add some constant strings (values that will never change, usually marked with CAPS) which hold the input prompts. also two dictionaries containing "strings":numbers. then check if the input is in the corresponding dictionary, if it is then okay. if not then ask again (like it was doing before)