#voice-chat-text-0 | Python | Page 446

normal crown Apr 2, 2025, 5:10 PM

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how long did it take

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:10 PM

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OR, I can throw that 30K away and sleep soundly at night knowing when shit goes down

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I'm covered

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Obviously

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:10 PM

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It sounds good on paper but in reality it ain't

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:10 PM

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because you'll get force placed insurance for twice as much

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No lender will let you go without insurance

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If you're making that much money

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GET INSURANCE!

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:11 PM

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In fairness I'm not a homeowner so I can't speak much to this

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Holy shit, talk about penny wise and pound foolish

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Me?

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:11 PM

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nah

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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rugged root In fairness I'm not a homeowner so I can't speak much to this

https://tenor.com/view/living-rent-free-little-big-skidi-gif-27590075

Tenor

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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primal shadow Holy shit, talk about penny wise and pound foolish

https://tenor.com/65wC.gif

Tenor

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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saying if you have enough to replace outirght

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to skimp on insurance

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to save money?

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becuase you make so much

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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Right?

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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He's got his pound of flesh

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or more than a pound

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Haggling?

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There's no haggling with a lawyer

olive hedge Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

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normal crown how long did it take

I learned python over a few months before starting some larger projects. My first big project was a discord bot that I started maybe like 3 months in.

It took me about 3 years to go from not knowing programming to actually having a job in programming.

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:13 PM

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Insurance is not investing, it's allowing oyur investments to do what you want them to

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:13 PM

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insurance shouldn't be in first place

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:13 PM

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instead of fixing your shit iwth them

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your insurance fixes them

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and your investments grow

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otherwise your shit burns

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you cash out investments

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:13 PM

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Government should provide those basic coverage

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:13 PM

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pay capital gains

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repair home

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:14 PM

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It's probably way scarier for me since I don't make nearly as much as these two do

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Government takes property tax for what?

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to chew gums?

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:14 PM

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I'm poor too, so don't include me in the big money people list

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I might make more, but CoL is higher and it's not that much more 🤣

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I generally only get my insurance from small companies

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I don't read a fuckin thing

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My broker does that

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:16 PM

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My grand father had short gun, not for thief but for tax collector.
I'm happy we never paid a tax on our land

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:16 PM

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That was a lie

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Tax is important

primal shadow Apr 2, 2025, 5:16 PM

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And you would win in court

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the fire department hosing down a fire is not "flood"

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https://tenor.com/8yQW.gif

Tenor

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The judge to the insurance lawyer

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So we luigi

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/r4hERsiBoVl.gif

Tenor

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:18 PM

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rugged root Tax is important

But where does tax goes?
That's more important

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Ideally to emergency services, school funding, road maintenance, clerical staff for various departments, etc

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Oh my god, FINALLY. This is the first listing I've found that actually has a floor plan listed

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Think about it

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at that time

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our family was involved in farming

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we didn't had fixed income source

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yet they are after taxes?

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Never got education or any serivce from gov

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so never had any trust in gov in first place

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:21 PM

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I'm speaking from a US perspective

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I can't speak for anywhere else

peak depot Apr 2, 2025, 5:22 PM

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whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:22 PM

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rugged root I'm speaking from a US perspective

Well..
ROI matters, those who pay taxes on property expect something in return like coverage like insurance, health coverage, etc

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If US gov does offer coverage or nation wide insurance, they have every right to take tax

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but it's unfair if they are expecting tax

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but no ROI for tax payer

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:25 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive hedge Apr 2, 2025, 5:26 PM

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https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-library/allergies/oral-allergy-syndrome-(oas)

Oral Allergy Syndrome Symptoms, Diagnosis & Treatment | AAAAI

Understanding the relationship between outdoor and food allergies written and reviewed by the leading experts in allergy, asthma and immunology.

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:26 PM

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I love that the organization name looks like it's screaming

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Hemlock like to pay taxes

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:27 PM

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It's a necessary evil

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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rugged root It's a necessary evil

By now you may have paid atleast 1 million USD in taxes!

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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Not with my income, no

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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Over all

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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No.

peak depot Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:29 PM

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I haven't even made that much over my time that I've been working

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:30 PM

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rugged root I haven't even made that much over my time that I've been working

Since you came in exitence

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Sure, but you said that I have paid it

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:32 PM

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A typical American pays $1–$1.7 million in taxes over their lifetime.
For higher-income earners, the amount can exceed $3 million.

That’s a huge chunk of lifetime earnings going to taxes!

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Oh huh

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Another kind if measles

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Windows uses css

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json

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Infact you can customize the cmd , powershell UI ( change the json script)

olive hedge Apr 2, 2025, 5:36 PM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25396784/how-to-record-a-specific-window-using-ffmpeg

Stack Overflow

How to record a specific window using ffmpeg?

I use ffmpeg to record a window using this code:

ffmpeg.exe
-f dshow
-y
-i video="screen-capture-recorder":audio="virtual-audio-capturer":audio="Microphone (USB Audio Device)"
-framerate 15
-v...

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:38 PM

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Windows UI is buggy

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Which is shame

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for company as big as Microsoft

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This is what happen when you use the windows on it's recommended scale

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Menu behaves dumb

unique wyvern Apr 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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https://github.com/NiiightmareXD/windows-capture

GitHub

GitHub - NiiightmareXD/windows-capture: Fastest Windows Screen Capt...

Fastest Windows Screen Capture Library For Rust And Python 🔥 - NiiightmareXD/windows-capture

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!pypi windows-capture

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 5:41 PM

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windows-capture v1.4.2

Fastest Windows Screen Capture Library For Python 🔥

Released on <t:1731579172:D>.

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 5:43 PM

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@dire pebble Learning windows is like learning HTML ( both are dumb )

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 5:44 PM

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I gave up

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I couldn't do it with 0 loops

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:44 PM

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https://docs.obsproject.com/scripting

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 5:44 PM

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vocal basin I gave up

(working with SQLite)

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with postgres I can just shove arrays into it

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:45 PM

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https://github.com/zooba/obs-python

GitHub

GitHub - zooba/obs-python: A Python bundle for integration with OBS...

A Python bundle for integration with OBS scripting - zooba/obs-python

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https://docs.obsproject.com/scripting

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 5:48 PM

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ugh I have to rewrite a cross-join into a loop

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I really don't want to

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:48 PM

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https://wiki.videolan.org/Python_bindings

Python bindings

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 5:48 PM

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vocal basin ugh I have to rewrite a cross-join into a loop

* nested loops

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 5:50 PM

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@vocal basin I think I found what to do the YouTube on ....

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I'll tell you later

rugged root Apr 2, 2025, 5:51 PM

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!pypi simpleobsws

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 5:51 PM

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simpleobsws v1.4.2

A simple obs-websocket library in async Python for people who just want JSON output.

Released on <t:1736164284:D>.

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 5:55 PM

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you rarely ever need os generally

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!d ctypes

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 5:56 PM

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ctypes

Source code: Lib/ctypes

ctypes is a foreign function library for Python. It provides C compatible data types, and allows calling functions in DLLs or shared libraries. It can be used to wrap these libraries in pure Python.

unique wyvern Apr 2, 2025, 5:56 PM

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https://docs.python.org/3/library/ctypes.html

Python documentation

ctypes — A foreign function library for Python

Source code: Lib/ctypes ctypes is a foreign function library for Python. It provides C compatible data types, and allows calling functions in DLLs or shared libraries. It can be used to wrap these ...

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/audio-video-camera/screen-capture

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/audio-video-camera/screen-capture-video

jade mountain Apr 2, 2025, 6:43 PM

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vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 6:43 PM

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famous Australian internet

jade mountain Apr 2, 2025, 6:46 PM

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can we start a fund to move me to new zealand where they have residential 1gig

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for a low low 30/month

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like

south jasper Apr 2, 2025, 6:47 PM

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hi there

jade mountain Apr 2, 2025, 6:47 PM

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how the fuck do they have that good of internet

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they are an island in the middle of nowhere

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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@rare surge @jade mountain ...

ivory stump Apr 2, 2025, 6:49 PM

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In your own time, in your own space...

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 6:50 PM

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bro
oh, look, another opportunity to share this clip
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5H7SghvrD5Rxzw06Z6lOEfySl4nA6o6X

YouTube

✂️ I'm not a bruh

6 seconds · Clipped by Alisa Feistel · Original video "Coming Of Age | Bryan Cantrill | Monktoberfest 2022" by RedMonk Tech Events

▶ Play video

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lmao

ivory stump Apr 2, 2025, 6:51 PM

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You're entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean we as a community necessarily want to hear you go on about it. There is some balance to be had between free speech and insulting people in our community

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 6:51 PM

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not all people participate in the discussions happening in the voice chat using voice

rare surge Apr 2, 2025, 6:52 PM

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ivory stump You're entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean we as a community necessari...

I can live with that. Thanks for kindly explaining to me.

terse garden Apr 2, 2025, 6:56 PM

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@vocal basin u here

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@ivory stump

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 6:58 PM

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what are you making? (what does the code do)

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!stream 745015733238497330

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 6:58 PM

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✅ @terse garden can now stream until <t:1743620606:f>.

unique wyvern Apr 2, 2025, 7:04 PM

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x_norm = x / [300, 300, 2 * math.pi, 10, 10, 5]

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:44 PM

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I often use 426 as a placeholder

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:44 PM

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Silence of the lambs ahahahha

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Oh wait ones streaming ahahha

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How is everyone?

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Sorry for not joining chat, I got guests

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Don't tell me you're all afk :L

terse garden Apr 2, 2025, 7:47 PM

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no

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Loooool

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:48 PM

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I'm still attempting to rewrite postgres stuff to sqlite

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Nice man ahahhaha

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So can you explain that in layman's? What's postgres?

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:49 PM

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relational database server

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Ahhhhh okays i understand

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:49 PM

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and sqlite is an embedded relational database, without a server

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as such they have different design trade-offs

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Yeah I know what sql is etc etv

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Ahahhaha

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Sure sure

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:50 PM

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e.g. postgres has better concurrency in exchange for existence of network delay

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:50 PM

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Sure sure

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Alisa, what do you do for work?

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Sorry

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Not to invade your privacy, just curious, you're like the smartest person I know lol

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:52 PM

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astral coral Alisa, what do you do for work?

a lot different stuff written in Rust + devops

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Sure sure ahahahha

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Man, I need to give rust a taste ahhahaha

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But I know you're like really intelligent, im not trying to kiss up ahahaha I'm just saying it as it is lol

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I still can't get over the prime encryption ahahhaha

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Listen to this

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Errr sorry Alisa, do you mind if I pm you? I wanna share my idea but I don't wanna share it on here ahahhahah

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 7:57 PM

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I do have DMs open currently

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 7:57 PM

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Okays thank you

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 8:08 PM

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there is #algos-and-data-structs and #data-science-and-ml

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we have channels separated by topics rather the type of content posted there

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 9:19 PM

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vocal basin I'm still attempting to rewrite postgres stuff to sqlite

it finally compiles

celest oyster Apr 2, 2025, 9:22 PM

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Is load about 70 on R9 5950X and steal at 15% really bad? my friend got a vps from some random company and was flexing about it for a week and then I bought one too

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 9:26 PM

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pithink

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 9:26 PM

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@royal sand 👋

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 9:28 PM

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Chrome seems to be unhappy because of how much of its memory has been swapped out to disk

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it'd be a smart idea to restart it

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but not doing that is funnier

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my system drive is almost half-dead already

royal sand Apr 2, 2025, 9:30 PM

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somber heath <@1236755256092921991> 👋

Hi

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 9:48 PM

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I'm still having to deal with horrors of SQLite being untyped

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or rather, similarly to Python, only values actually have types, not columns

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the thing, that I'm using, is able to inspect those hints from the schema

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even though they don't restrict what's in the table, at least the library won't let me do arbitrary things

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what I've just ran into:
NULL, when converted to String, is ""
NULL, when converted to JsonValue, is, also, "" not null

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how

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(this is a library issue I think)

woeful blaze Apr 2, 2025, 9:57 PM

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vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:02 PM

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@whole bear this is the text chat

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:02 PM

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https://based.mobi

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is my chess website

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do you want to plauy

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:05 PM

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how is the matchmaking working there

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:05 PM

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queue dequeu system

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:05 PM

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invite-based?

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:06 PM

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I also save pgns

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and analyse them

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with stockfish

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:06 PM

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the button redirects to a room

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idk what is supposed to happen next

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oh look socket.io

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:07 PM

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presss multiplayer

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yeah webhooks for movement

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:08 PM

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sockets not hooks

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what do you mean by webhooks?

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webhooks are generally not related to socket.io

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webhooks are normally used for notifications sent to external services

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i.e. you can post to discord when something happens

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or, in reverse, accept events from some external system

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stuff is not wanting to work

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did you disable long-poll support in socket.io?

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:12 PM

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try refresh

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sigh

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:13 PM

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whole bear try refresh

this might be a browser issue

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hmm

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websockets on other websites work

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@whole bear are you testing it using the domain too? or some local address?

whole bear Apr 2, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I gonna nap

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:18 PM

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it was in fact not a browser issue but some other sort of connectivity issue

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I don't think this is supposed to happen

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 10:25 PM

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You okay?

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:26 PM

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scroll seems to be resetting after each move pithink

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Mate I know sockets

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Lol

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Lol well done

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:36 PM

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🚀

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and the VPN died

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 10:37 PM

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@subtle zealot 👋

subtle zealot Apr 2, 2025, 10:38 PM

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hello

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 10:38 PM

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@fierce surge 👋

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:42 PM

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very sharp refrigerator

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 10:45 PM

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@shell musk 👋

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 10:46 PM

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yet

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lunchbase

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not yet claimed

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might be too similar to couchbase

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sofabase

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 10:52 PM

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@naive mesa 👋

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!zen

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 11:01 PM

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The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:03 PM

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unless it's encrypted

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what Windows version was it?

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11 or not?

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11 is starting to force encryption

blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:05 PM

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blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:05 PM

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vocal basin 11 is starting to force encryption

oh no 💀 mine is 11

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:09 PM

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step 1: find any other working computer
~~step 1.1: don't break that computer too~~
step 2: download Windows 11 ISO (you might need to use the image creation tool or whatever it's called)
step 3: get that ISO onto a USB drive
step 4: boot the laptop from the USB
step 5: the should be an option to select repair (not reinstall)

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if there is no option to repair, there should still be an option to reinstall while keeping the data

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TPM nonsense shouldn't get in the way, it mostly only complains about hardware replacement

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 11:10 PM

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@calm root 👋

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:11 PM

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vocal basin step 1: find any other working computer ~~step 1.1: don't break that computer to...

before trying stuff with the windows ISO, you might try a live Linux USB, as mentioned before

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make sure whatever Linux you'd be using has NTFS support

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(idk if it's widespread or default nowadays)

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only follow official documentation for whatever tools involved

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youtube videos are generally outdated,
and in recent years they're also getting increasingly false

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@somber heath I would be surprised if empty Alpine supported NTFS

blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:15 PM

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move C:\Windows C:\Windows.bck

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:15 PM

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I'm surprised it even let you do that

blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:16 PM

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move C:\Windows.bck C:\Windows

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arn’t you tired helping people all day @vocal basin ? chatting nearly all day

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:24 PM

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I have work to distract me from talking, so not as tired

blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:31 PM

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ohh

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 11:33 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/love-mr-burns-glow-alien-simpsons-gif-16964103

Tenor

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Hey

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Sandwich?

languid scaffold Apr 2, 2025, 11:35 PM

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#adds color to lines
from colorama import Fore, Style, init

#makes it so that when you assign a color, it doesn't follow to the rest of the lines
init(autoreset=True)

def clear_screen():
#Clears the console screen based on the operating system.
    os.system("cls" if os.name == "nt" else "clear")


while True:
    clear_screen()
    print(Fore.LIGHTBLUE_EX + "\nWhat are strings in python?")
    print(" ")
    print(Fore.LIGHTCYAN_EX + "A.   Numbers ")
    print(Fore.LIGHTCYAN_EX + "B.   Decimal Numbers")
    print(Fore.LIGHTCYAN_EX + "C.   sequences of characters enclosed in quotes")
    print(Fore.LIGHTCYAN_EX + "D.   Operators")

    response = input(Fore.LIGHTCYAN_EX + "\nWhat is your answer?: ").strip().upper()
    if response == "C":
        print(Fore.GREEN + "\nThat is correct!! Good Job")
        input(Fore.CYAN + "Press Enter to continue...")
        break
    else:
        print(Fore.RED + "That is incorrect! Please try again.")
        input(Fore.CYAN + "Press Enter to retry...")```



im having trouble getting this to work any ideas?
 "def clear_screen():
#Clears the console screen based on the operating system.
    os.system("cls" if os.name == "nt" else "clear")

vocal basin Apr 2, 2025, 11:36 PM

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!code please format the code if you send it in the chat

wise cargoBOT Apr 2, 2025, 11:36 PM

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Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 11:38 PM

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Hey?

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@somber heath sandwich? 🙂

languid scaffold Apr 2, 2025, 11:39 PM

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languid scaffold ```import os #adds color to lines from colorama import Fore, Style, init #make...

??>

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 11:39 PM

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Did I do something to offend?

somber heath Apr 2, 2025, 11:40 PM

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astral coral <@317279909112446976> sandwich? 🙂

Too early for sandwiches.

languid scaffold Apr 2, 2025, 11:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-2461283791483656605

Tenor

astral coral Apr 2, 2025, 11:42 PM

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Ah my bad. Being paranoid for no reason.

languid scaffold Apr 2, 2025, 11:43 PM

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languid scaffold ```import os #adds color to lines from colorama import Fore, Style, init #make...

wild

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useless ppl

blissful vine Apr 2, 2025, 11:57 PM

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i really did it 😭😭😭

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@vocal basin i really did it 😭😭 feeling like i am a computer master

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 12:02 AM

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@crystal fox ChatGPT got trained on 4chan presumably

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it's a keyword-to-keyword associations generator at best

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 12:07 AM

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Thanks @vocal basin

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 12:28 AM

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woohoo some funny Australian band released another song

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ffmpeg
photoshop
davinci resolve

I mostly use these

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photoshop internally has a cow structure
it's mostly exposed through the history-related tools

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e.g. history brush

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it's one of the major selling points of photoshop, the way they handle history

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 12:37 AM

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oh Ffmpeg

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its really hard

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 12:37 AM

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vocal basin it's one of the major selling points of photoshop, the way they handle history

https://youtu.be/QGcVXgEVMJg

YouTube

NDC Conferences

Better Code: Runtime Polymorphism - Sean Parent

This talk explains why (and how) to implement polymorphism without inheritance in C++.
The talk contains many C++ tips and techniques, including many new features from C++11. During the course of that talk a key feature from Photoshop will be demonstrated and implemented.

NDC Conferences
https://ndc-london.com
https://ndcconferences.com

▶ Play video

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 12:57 AM

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@crystal fox CentOS is dead

golden sonnet Apr 3, 2025, 12:58 AM

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long live the arch

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 12:59 AM

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vocal basin <@97347867923976192> CentOS is dead

gradual death from 2021 to June 2024

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@blissful vine Chrome

crystal fox Apr 3, 2025, 1:02 AM

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vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 1:10 AM

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what if computer.vb is like that coconut from TF2

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coconut.jpg somehow impacts the livelines of the game as a whole

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 1:14 AM

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vocal basin what if `computer.vb` is like that coconut from TF2

didn’t get u 💀

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what is coconut doing here and what is TF2

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 1:23 AM

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I wonder how many hours of coding it's been so far this week for me

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likely already over 40

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 4:16 AM

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hey @wind raptor

wind raptor Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 AM

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static whale Apr 3, 2025, 4:55 AM

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astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 4:57 AM

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hey @somber heath

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 4:59 AM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuscus

Cuscus

Cuscus ( or ) is the common name generally given to the species within the four genera of Australasian possum of the family Phalangeridae with the most tropical distribution:

Ailurops
Phalanger
Spilocuscus
Strigocuscus
The name comes from the word kusu or kuso in some local related languages spoken in the Maluku Islands like Bacan and Ambonese ...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couscous

Couscous

Couscous (Arabic: كُسْكُس, romanized: kuskus) is a traditional North African dish of small steamed granules of rolled semolina that is often served with a stew spooned on top. Pearl millet, sorghum, bulgur, and other cereals are sometimes cooked in a similar way in other regions, and the resulting dishes are also sometimes called couscous...

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@feral elm 👋

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 5:05 AM

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sorry, just don't feel like speaking much

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 5:07 AM

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astral coral sorry, just don't feel like speaking much

You're under no compunction.

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 5:08 AM

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same principles of software design

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 5:08 AM

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somber heath You're under no compunction.

elborate?

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 5:10 AM

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You are not obligated to talk, not are subject to the expectation.

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 5:10 AM

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ahhh new word, got confused.

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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It may have been the wrong word.

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compulsion

astral coral Apr 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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its okay

static whale Apr 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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Gtg

wind raptor Apr 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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Have a great one!

wind raptor Apr 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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static whale Gtg

Good chatting with you again!

static whale Apr 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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You too I’m prolly gonna sleep

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Gn

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:07 PM

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I'd ask when isn't there, but sometimes they aren't all that sleepy.

inner hill Apr 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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hi

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:22 PM

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Medusa? I hardly know her.

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@rare stone 👋

rare stone Apr 3, 2025, 1:26 PM

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somber heath <@1012238764468338718> 👋

hi

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:26 PM

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@vernal meadow 👋

rare stone Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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why m i suppressed

inner hill Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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you have to send 50 messages for voice verification

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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rare stone why m i suppressed

!voice

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

rare stone Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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inner hill you have to send 50 messages for voice verification

wow
a lot

rare stone Apr 3, 2025, 1:28 PM

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somber heath !voice

hmm
i got it

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brainmon

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:29 PM

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Assume you were right about what, sorry?

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https://tenor.com/view/mtg-cat-cat-creature-maciuś-magic-the-gathering-gif-20184621

Tenor

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Cardiologist kitty.

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 1:39 PM

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I don't know Russian, but gotta keep safe

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Cool

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above freezing, but not warm

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https://tenor.com/sEHBIIPfBXz.gif

Tenor

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10 minutes to load a bus?

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Some people are here

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But if you're driving, odds are you're not reading chat

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:49 PM

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@tulip hazel 👋

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@flint gorge 👋

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:50 PM

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hi

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 1:51 PM

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Are tehy?

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:51 PM

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#1357346836272124025 Help me please

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 1:51 PM

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looks 50/50 to me

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Myself and Al are optional mute

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 1:51 PM

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primal shadow looks 50/50 to me

oh lol 😂

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:52 PM

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flint gorge <#1357346836272124025> Help me please

I spent 4 hours but could not solve the problem

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 1:53 PM

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BUt not on Russia @somber heath

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can't hurt Russia

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Gotta tariff the uninhabited islands

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but Russia, can't hit them with any tariffs

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We do

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3.5 bil a year

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$3.5 BILLION A YEAR

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NO TARIFF

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They are BRAGGING about saving $600k

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How the fuck is $3.5 bil not worth looking at?

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:54 PM

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flint gorge <#1357346836272124025> Help me please

please look here

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 1:54 PM

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The war cut our trade with them by 90%, not 100%

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Keep defending it 🙂

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Uninhabited island -> Tariff

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Russia -> No tariff

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You said we shouldn'

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t be trading

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but we are

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 1:55 PM

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@flint gorge i have no idea what u are working on but hope your problem will be solved & if u don’t mind for knowledge purpose can you tell me in too breif like what u r working on

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:56 PM

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blissful vine <@1071733735797555200> i have no idea what u are working on but hope your proble...

As usual, I made a new one in my library and wanted to publish it. But there was an error while publishing it and I still haven't been able to fix it.

amber raptor Apr 3, 2025, 1:58 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/titanic-band-music-violin-gif-16582632

Tenor

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Me when watching America go to hell

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 1:58 PM

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flint gorge As usual, I made a new one in my library and wanted to publish it. But there was...

Oh, sounds interesting! Are you publishing a Python package or working on a project deployment?

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 1:58 PM

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blissful vine Oh, sounds interesting! Are you publishing a Python package or working on a proj...

python library

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YoungLion 0.0.9.4

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 1:59 PM

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amber raptor Me when watching America go to hell

I didn't know you played.

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 2:00 PM

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flint gorge python library

seems great i will surely research on it 😀

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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@whole bear 👋

flint gorge Apr 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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blissful vine seems great i will surely research on it 😀

thanks

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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somber heath <@456226577798135808> 👋

hello

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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whole bear hello

if u want to speak u need to complete voice verification #voice-verification

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:02 PM

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blissful vine if u want to speak u need to complete voice verification <#764802555427029012>

new member

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so cant speak

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i mean

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cant verify

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i just joined

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 2:03 PM

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@blissful anchor 👋

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 2:03 PM

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whole bear i just joined

you should wait for 3 days 😅

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then u can verify

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

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okay😭

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

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somber heath <@971619735315836948> 👋

Hello

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

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whole bear okay😭

yeah if need any help you can chat

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

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i do want technical help though

blissful vine Apr 3, 2025, 2:04 PM

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blissful anchor Hello

if u want to speak u need to complete voice verification #voice-verification

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:05 PM

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blissful anchor Hello

nepali?

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:05 PM

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blissful vine if u want to speak u need to complete voice verification <#764802555427029012>

Ok I will do

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:05 PM

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whole bear nepali?

No

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:05 PM

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blissful anchor No

where r u from

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:06 PM

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whole bear where r u from

Yeah me from Nepal

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:06 PM

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blissful anchor Yeah me from Nepal

then no kina bhaneko

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kasto hawa

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:07 PM

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Haina maile aatikai vanya

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:07 PM

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kata bata ho timi

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:07 PM

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Ktm

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What abt you?

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:07 PM

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ehh same same

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ktm

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lalitpur

blissful anchor Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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whole bear ehh same same

How do you know abt this server?

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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!rule 4

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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what r u talking about

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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blissful anchor How do you know abt this server?

idkk randomly tried animal names and python was one of them 😭

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:08 PM

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whole bear idkk randomly tried animal names and python was one of them 😭

HABHAAHAHAHAA

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Im bored pls talk about some data analysis

slender sierra Apr 3, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Hi🙂

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:09 PM

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😄 😄

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where do you take this course

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I need to learn either tablueueeu or powerbi

lean galleon Apr 3, 2025, 2:10 PM

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what does bi stand for

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bowel irritability?

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:10 PM

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oh ok

lean galleon Apr 3, 2025, 2:10 PM

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ic

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:11 PM

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tablueu was very boring more than excel

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I hope powerbi wont be

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:11 PM

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It will be

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But in a special kind of boring

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:11 PM

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oh Hiiiiiiiiİİ

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:12 PM

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!charinfo iİİ

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 2:12 PM

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Character Info

\u0069 : LATIN SMALL LETTER I - i
\u0130 : LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE - İ
\u0130 : LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE - İ

Full Raw Text

\u0069\u0130\u0130

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:12 PM

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rugged root But in a special kind of boring

tasty. this sentence summarize of codding

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 2:13 PM

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shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:14 PM

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the cat and my profile photo are looking at each other

still herald Apr 3, 2025, 2:14 PM

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Hey

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Listening music

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Yeah

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:14 PM

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ım waiting my husband

still herald Apr 3, 2025, 2:14 PM

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What's your fav music?

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 2:15 PM

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lemonsaurus what is this emoji

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😦

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lemsouruess

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ım not native speaker so ı have to write like this

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lemonsoureures

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 2:18 PM

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#

#

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primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:51 PM

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Don't post publicly if it can be tied back to you

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utilize anonymity for honest thoughts

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https://tenor.com/npVhw1Rtprp.gif

Tenor

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/awesome-youre-awesome-you-gif-2757054641297562615

Tenor

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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I love looking at my old terribly written code

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shows how far you've gone

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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@rugged root

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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My code hasn't changed much

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/bOMzb.gif

Tenor

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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peak depot https://tenor.com/view/awesome-youre-awesome-you-gif-2757054641297562615

https://tenor.com/byTgZndvIBV.gif

Tenor

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Hemlocks Code

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https://tenor.com/122d.gif

Tenor

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 2:53 PM

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rugged root https://tenor.com/byTgZndvIBV.gif

https://tenor.com/view/no-shake-my-head-golden-girls-smh-oh-man-gif-14406870892947143609

Tenor

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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!otn s baby

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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A big baby?

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Query results

bastille-baby
bubble-year-baby
golden-baby-guy-has-cleaner-words
hasta-la-windows-vista-baby
immutable-baby
𝖨-also-hear-you’ve-been-a-baby

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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babies cry and whine and demand

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:54 PM

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I can look up added ones

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Go do work

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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no u

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/bngRY.gif

Tenor

somber heath Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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@swift pollen 👋

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/eXotfslLQrK.gif

Tenor

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:55 PM

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what's the point of MSSQL existing anymore pithink

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:56 PM

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Legacy

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 2:56 PM

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/G2UQ

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:57 PM

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SQLite doesn't like the query I wrote

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it behaves so differently from postgres

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:57 PM

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They don't have all the same instructions

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SQLite is much more restrictive

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:58 PM

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everything except UNNEST and CREATE TYPE and weird edge cases from the code I'm translating worked in SQLite

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and jsonb/json types also

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:58 PM

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Huh, I didn't know UNNEST would work

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:58 PM

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but there really aren't that many differences

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:58 PM

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rugged root Huh, I didn't know `UNNEST` would work

it didn't

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:58 PM

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❤️ dbeaver

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SQLite is lite

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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CREATE TYPE makes no sense for SQLite for known reasons

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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primal shadow ❤️ dbeaver

That's just a db viewer, isn't it?

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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Why can't you learn about programming now?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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~~I'm still in a pre-GPT era~~

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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rugged root That's just a db viewer, isn't it?

I suppose

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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It is dope, though

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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That's good, weren't the boomers crying no one has handwriting because smartphones/>

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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In study no AI should be used

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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rugged root It is dope, though

IDK what all the difference between "just a viewer" and more IDE Like thing

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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As well as in corporate enviornment

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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Oh right you can run queries in it as well can't you

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I forgot that

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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Yea

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You can DDL

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all that jazz

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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Dope

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:00 PM

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I use it instead of PHPMyadmin

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:01 PM

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lateKH

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:02 PM

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/G2UQ

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:02 PM

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are you processing money or are you delegating it to a third party?

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in first case, use tigerbeetle

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or borrow their architecture/model

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:03 PM

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Hadn't heard of that one

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:05 PM

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vocal basin SQLite doesn't like the query I wrote

ugh I have to write 4 separate queries

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correction: 16

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:05 PM

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da fuq?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:05 PM

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it's 2 in postgres

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currently 4 in sqlite

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:05 PM

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StationCode CHAR(3) PRIMARY KEY CHECK (StationCode = UPPER(StationCode)), CHAR(3) as PK?

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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Switch to Nim and use Norm: https://norm.nim.town/index.html

Welcome to Norm! - Norm

Object-driven ORM for SQLite and Postgres

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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it was originally a single query
but
splitting it increased performance

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postgres is smart enough to factor out parts of WHERE statements

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sqlite isn't

amber raptor Apr 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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Postgres has query analyzer

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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Cool

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so give it a unique CHAR(3) colum

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I wouldn't PK it

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I only PK Ints

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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As you should

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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yeah, in SQLite almost every time if you can do it in code, then you will have to do it in code

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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Because no one else should see my PKs

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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I'm too low IQ to understand the convo

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so bye

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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KeyID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,

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IDENTITY(1,1) Is that some strange way to say AUTOINCREMENT?

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or is that the M$FT way to do it?

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:08 PM

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primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:09 PM

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May 12th?

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that's over am onth

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Less theorycrafting, more clicky clacking

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If you keep revisiting step one

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you'll never get far

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:10 PM

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primal shadow Less theorycrafting, more clicky clacking

I think the only time I've heard theorycraft is in reference to Path of Exile

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:10 PM

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But even that

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the DB will run

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No need to worry about optimizations for the sake of optimizations

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I would INT PK em all

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Fuuuuuuu I'll be right back

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QB is needing me to reboot because of an update

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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as I say, if it runs it ships

amber raptor Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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rugged root Fuuuuuuu I'll be right back

Shame

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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if it doesn't run, I'm fired

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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amber raptor Shame

https://tenor.com/bWoZy.gif

Tenor

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Yes, run

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does the task

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you should pass if your code does what was asked

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might lose points for style or speed

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but I doubt that leads to a fail if the task is completed

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lol

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no

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the business logic makes up for bad UI

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if I ask 1+1 and get 3

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no matter how fancy that shit looks

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I'm enver coming back

amber raptor Apr 3, 2025, 3:12 PM

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primal shadow as I say, if it runs it ships

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:12 PM

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I speak in practice, you speak in theory 🙂

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We do not live in theory, we live in practice

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:13 PM

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theoretical caching 🥰

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:13 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

YouTube

xerohour

GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI

Hi Reddit! /u/xerohour

Fair use claim:
-this serves an educational purpose in demonstrating computer illiteracy as it pertains to American Television
-the clip is far too short to compete in any way with the original product and its intended use
-there is no way that this could be confused with an official broadcast or redistribution by the con...

▶ Play video

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:16 PM

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RAS Syndrome

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Download our APP

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:16 PM

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application pplication plication

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:16 PM

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I don't think it does

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App is short for application

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someone might have claimed to retro the acronym

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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WASP

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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but it started as short for application

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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application programming pnterface

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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ASP.NET

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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near niche WASP

Because where we go pain follows

near niche Apr 3, 2025, 3:17 PM

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ASP.NET Core

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C# WPF

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LGBTQ

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:18 PM

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vocal basin application pplication plication

a plus plus

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:19 PM

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GTFTS

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https://tenor.com/wZTr.gif

Tenor

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDCqgHLX8Ys&ab_channel=Healthitude

YouTube

Healthitude

Go the Fuck to Sleep Read by Samuel L Jackson HD

Go the Fuck to Sleep, Book by Adam Mansbach, read by Samuel L Jackson.
Illustrated by Ricardo Cortés. Described as a "children's book for adults"
Kat and I felt you need this fun escape to help you fall asleep, giggling.
Sign up for more fun here: http://www.healthitude.com/health-tips-fun-events-and-so-much-more

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rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 3:24 PM

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https://norm.nim.town/models.html

Models 101 - Norm

Object-driven ORM for SQLite and Postgres

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:25 PM

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I was waiting for who would say it first lol

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ah, not that norm, not the US Navy networking protocol

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Nack-Oriented Reliable Multicast

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:26 PM

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Fancy, soon I'll be able to share 10 ad free YT videos a month

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and by soon I mean if the selective rollout goes global

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NYT does it for articles

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https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-premium-ad-free-video-sharing-feature/

Android Police

YouTube now lets some Premium users share ad-free videos with friends

A few YouTube Premium users will now be able to share up to 10 ad-free videos per month

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Same concept

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paid subscribers can share

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🙂

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I do enjoy hanging out here muted during the day

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Though I prefer when I can speak freely at home

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Yea

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I shared an image a while back too

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look mostly the same, lol

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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8/16 done

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mostly listening to this album recently

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I don't think my brain would be able to process varied music while writing code for >12 hours a day

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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In celebration of my president ruining my economy I bought a car yesterday morning

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I recently dove in to the cuisine, I quite enjoy it

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"American food"

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dafuq even is that

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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@peak depot at least it's onion for taste not to cover up the food rotting

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:48 PM

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I thought you had to vacuum a ball pit

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:50 PM

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data unengineering

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@rugged root it's not a shredder it's a data unengineering device

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or disengineering

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 3:53 PM

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A long time ago

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IT was a limited release

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That was the point

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artificial demand

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err, artificial supply issues

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you joined 4 years 2 months ago

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Alcoholism is productive?

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lol

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yes, become an alcoholic at 12, not 21

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https://tenor.com/bd6qI.gif

Tenor

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Drunken children, beautiful

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Progress, turn the children into adults sooner

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easier to abuse them in the labor market

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Yea, land of the free to be told what to do

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"American Curriculum" what?

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You speak for America?

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Not sure if you're aware, but states set the agenda, schools the curriculum

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 3:59 PM

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the query went funny ways
from 0ms to 2000ms

primal shadow Apr 3, 2025, 4:02 PM

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No

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I don't know

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Please, do elaborate

dense ibex Apr 3, 2025, 4:04 PM

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whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Now my IQ is high again!

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I can understand convo!

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@rugged root Vas co de gama?

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Something like that?

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@dense ibex My IQ went from 50 to 20

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Please stop!

dense ibex Apr 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

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:(

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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I think it must be newyork!

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newyork is great country

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@dense ibex Ask another question!

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I have few more IQ left

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maybe 10

obsidian dragon Apr 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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hi

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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@peak depot First letter of the country is?

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Is it russia?

obsidian dragon Apr 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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what are we talking about?

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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obsidian dragon what are we talking about?

Guess

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the country

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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We're playing "Guess That County"

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:21 PM

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Turkey?

obsidian dragon Apr 3, 2025, 4:21 PM

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contaxt

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:21 PM

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Russia?

dense ibex Apr 3, 2025, 4:21 PM

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Gotta take a quiz brb

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:21 PM

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italy?

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I think it must be belarus

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balkan?

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Turkey

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libya?

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I have no idea

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my 10 iq have been degraded to 0

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egypt

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egypt is no where near libya

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in mineral oil export

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@crystal fox Is it your balls?

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What was hint?

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:29 PM

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ass

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

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Damn

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Must be brazil

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

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Right?

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

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I think so

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@unique wyvern Where you from?

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It must be US

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I have no idea

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Tunisa

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he is takling about dijibouty

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:39 PM

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.wa s 1 foot 6 inches in cm

viscid lagoonBOT Apr 3, 2025, 4:39 PM

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Wolfram Alpha

45.72 cm (centimeters)

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:49 PM

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@lime fractal What's up

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I don't want to disrupt the convo

lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:49 PM

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can i get sharescreen perms for 10 minutes

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:50 PM

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For...

lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:50 PM

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i wane show my ssd

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i cant play games more noting

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its f up half is working

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:50 PM

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I can't help you.

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 4:50 PM

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lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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it shows the files but not lets me delete things download things on it drag noting

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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Do you know?
India have a state named Nagaland, it is part of India but Nagaland's local and Insurgency group never consider themselves part of India and since independence it is under Insurgency group control with compromise by Indian government.

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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lime fractal it shows the files but not lets me delete things download things on it drag noti...

At this point your best bet is to take it to BestBuy with their GeekSquad folks or some other computer repair place

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But I cannot help

lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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i can copy things

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Dave. What did I just say

lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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cant

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Correct. I'm sorry that I can't, but I can't

lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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im playing server and got gens placed they cost me 4month playtime

peak depot Apr 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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@rugged root https://satwcomic.com/new-year-new-adventure

Scandinavia and the World

New Year New Adventure - Scandinavia and the World

Webcomic: Happy new year. Let’s try to make it better than the last.

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lime fractal Apr 3, 2025, 4:53 PM

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why not show delete

versed heath Apr 3, 2025, 4:56 PM

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The name 'Il2CppAssetBundleManager' does not exist in the current context

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The type or namespace name 'Il2CppAssetBundle' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

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Assembly 'MelonLoader' with identity 'MelonLoader, Version=0.6.6.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' uses 'System.Runtime, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Runtime' with identity 'System.Runtime, Version=4.1.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 4:56 PM

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🚀

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you sometimes need to include the .dll/.exe as the dependency

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without copying it over into the project

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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vocal basin you sometimes need to include the .dll/.exe as the dependency

@versed heath

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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~~I don't want to deal with C# and DLLs right now, maybe some other day~~

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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Fair

versed heath Apr 3, 2025, 4:59 PM

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Assembly 'MelonLoader' with identity 'MelonLoader, Version=0.6.6.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' uses 'System.Runtime, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Runtime' with identity 'System.Runtime, Version=4.1.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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it should be possible to make an AI extension for Zig docs

celest oyster Apr 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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since they're just one file (for reference) and two files (for standard lib)

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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vocal basin it should be possible to make an AI extension for Zig docs

Can't it interop with C?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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it can compile C

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it bundles a C compiler

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and owns the code above LLVM

celest oyster Apr 3, 2025, 5:03 PM

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stream pls

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:03 PM

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@rustic talon Yo

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!stream 829327810409529385

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 5:03 PM

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✅ @celest oyster can now stream until <t:1743700116:f>.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:03 PM

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✅✅✅ 3/5

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I'm still using shadowsocks and not vless or whatever the alternative is named

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I probably should switch

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:04 PM

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That's a great name

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:05 PM

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proton is blocked here

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vpn is blocked

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mail might be blocked too

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@spark girder anti-DPI measures are common in Russia

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some are even capable of making Discord work

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Discord is non-trivial because UDP because WebRTC

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regular HTTPS DPI bypass is trivial because Discord is on a cloud -- cannot be blocked by IP

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:07 PM

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vocal basin mail might be blocked too

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idk what DNS servers I have configured

celest oyster Apr 3, 2025, 5:09 PM

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vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:13 PM

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ugh do I have to imitate postgres' query logic in sqlite

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I don't like 2000ms of compute per request

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:15 PM

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vocal basin ugh do I have to imitate postgres' query logic in sqlite

What for?

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@celest oyster what application is this?

celest oyster Apr 3, 2025, 5:16 PM

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spark girder <@829327810409529385> what application is this?

ssh client

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yes

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termius

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:17 PM

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vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:18 PM

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spark girder What for?

JOIN of two tables with a filter (column = $arg) on one column that's only present in the first table and one column that's only in the second

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:19 PM

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@rugged root so fun looking at your head going brrrrr

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:20 PM

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@unique wyvern can you do spaces in identifiers like in algol?

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:21 PM

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vocal basin <@431341013479718912> can you do spaces in identifiers like in algol?

why is it hard to identify spaced identifiers? I mean if you are using mixmal munch in your tokenizer you can identify them right? or is it just for developer experience?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:21 PM

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keywords

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:22 PM

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FooBar()

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:22 PM

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camelCase

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:23 PM

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Snake_case

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:23 PM

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camel_Snake_Case -- the worst

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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Nahhh it’s a work of art

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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vocal basin `camel_Snake_Case` -- the worst

ALL CAPS - direct ticket to hell

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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in Rust, Json -- unacronym it

rigid chasm Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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storm jewel ALL CAPS - direct ticket to hell

constants

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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rigid chasm constants

exception

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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TcpStream

rigid chasm Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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vocal basin `TcpStream`

TCPStream

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:25 PM

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there are cases in Rust where acronyms are preserved

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:25 PM

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I use Title Case for exceptions

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:25 PM

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vocal basin there are cases in Rust where acronyms are preserved

Sqlite isn't one of them

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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ok what kind of naming convetions do you guys follow

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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the one that the language has

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if any

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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spark girder I use Title Case for exceptions

That's common though since you usually have them as classes or it's just convention for most things

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:26 PM

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storm jewel exception

I was responding to this string @rugged root

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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!d dataclasses.dataclass

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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dataclasses.dataclass


@dataclasses.dataclass(*, init=True, repr=True, eq=True, order=False, unsafe_hash=False, frozen=False, match_args=True, kw_only=False, slots=False, weakref_slot=False)```
This function is a [decorator](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-decorator) that is used to add generated [special methods](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-special-method) to classes, as described below.

The `@dataclass` decorator examines the class to find `field`s. A `field` is defined as a class variable that has a [type annotation](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-variable-annotation). With two exceptions described below, nothing in `@dataclass` examines the type specified in the variable annotation.

The order of the fields in all of the generated methods is the order in which they appear in the class definition.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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I don't have any specific convention I use in JS

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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!d classmethod

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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classmethod


@classmethod```
Transform a method into a class method.

A class method receives the class as an implicit first argument, just like an instance method receives the instance. To declare a class method, use this idiom:

```py
class C:
    @classmethod
    def f(cls, arg1, arg2): ...
```...

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:27 PM

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except React components

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those are PascalCase

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:28 PM

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That... kind of makes sense

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:28 PM

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and hooks

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useCamelCase

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ugh why can't I println!("{value = }")

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@rugged root why not the ducky

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ducky_pirate

rigid chasm Apr 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

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zen / firefox won't let me join the vc

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planning to switch to brave

spark girder Apr 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Sorry @unique wyvern we keep the radio on for my dogs!

rugged root Apr 3, 2025, 5:37 PM

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vocal basin <@98195144192331776> why not the ducky

I don't know, actually

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:38 PM

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@storm jewel Hello 👋

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:39 PM

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stuck furnace <@707534039732715521> Hello 👋

whats up dude how's the blender projects

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:39 PM

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storm jewel whats up dude how's the blender projects

Erm, that's not me I think, but good 😄

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:39 PM

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stuck furnace Erm, that's not me I think, but good 😄

ahh my bad, so whats going on

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actually that other guy's name was kinda similar

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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storm jewel ahh my bad, so whats going on

Not much. Doing some studying

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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passive-aggressive SQL

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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stuck furnace Not much. Doing some studying

interesting about what

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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the hack did not, in fact, work

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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storm jewel actually that other guy's name was kinda similar

Now I'm trying to think of who you're thinking of 🤔

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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storm jewel interesting about what

Nonlinear dimensionality reduction

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:40 PM

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stuck furnace Now I'm trying to think of who you're thinking of 🤔

let me find him wait haha

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:41 PM

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stuck furnace Nonlinear dimensionality reduction

ahh working with embeddings?

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PCA?

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:41 PM

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storm jewel PCA?

Yeah and other methods. Right now I'm wrapping my head around multi-dimensional scaling pithink

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Which seems to be similar to PCA

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:42 PM

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stuck furnace Yeah and other methods. Right now I'm wrapping my head around multi-dimensional ...

yeah its gonna take a while, and also if the embeddings are dense, its not always the best choice haha

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sentence transformer embeddings loose meanign really fast

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:43 PM

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I tend to get a bit lost in the linear algebra 🥴

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:43 PM

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stuck furnace I tend to get a bit lost in the linear algebra 🥴

are you working with NLP? by any chance?

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:43 PM

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storm jewel are you working with NLP? by any chance?

Nah, I'm just taking a general stats course

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:43 PM

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stuck furnace Nah, I'm just taking a general stats course

ahh so pure maths

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thats cool

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:45 PM

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stuck furnace I tend to get a bit lost in the linear algebra 🥴

interesting subject, but can make anyone real dizzy real fast

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Yeah, although the course is "computational applied mathematics". It's kind of a mixed bag of random stuff (but mostly stats) 😄

storm jewel Apr 3, 2025, 5:45 PM

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stuck furnace Yeah, although the course is "computational applied mathematics". It's kind of a...

wait till you reach Theory of computation haah

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thats a whole lot of randomness but important

shell musk Apr 3, 2025, 5:52 PM

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hey what is happening

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why 2 people straming

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 5:58 PM

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noway we finally have this in stable Rust

trait Trait: Supertrait {}
trait Supertrait {}

fn upcast(x: &dyn Trait) -> &dyn Supertrait {
    x
}

unique wyvern Apr 3, 2025, 5:59 PM

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ä̵̉s̴̔͝d̸̅̓a̸͋͌s̶̀̎d̶͒͛ȃ̵dwd

stuck furnace Apr 3, 2025, 6:00 PM

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Yo

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We summoning Cthulhu?

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I gotta go cook dinner cya 👋

unique wyvern Apr 3, 2025, 6:03 PM

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https://github.com/kivy/kivy/blob/master/kivy/uix/widget.py#L286-L288

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 6:03 PM

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kivy/uix/widget.py lines 286 to 288

def __init__(mcs, name, bases, attrs):
    super(WidgetMetaclass, mcs).__init__(name, bases, attrs)
    Factory.register(name, cls=mcs)```

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:05 PM

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the ORDER BY making SQLite go from 500ms to 0ms still is somewhat not entirely intuitive for me

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or rather it is intuitive but not clearly logical

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:19 PM

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vocal basin or rather it is intuitive but not clearly logical

Wouldn't that mean you have an easier time understanding illogical stuff? Which itself feels rather paradoxical to me.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:20 PM

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rather the lack of comprehensive understanding

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I cannot, for example, simply explain how the borrow checker in Rust works

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because it's not simple

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:21 PM

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I could be the rubber duck.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:21 PM

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vocal basin because it's not simple

and any attempt at formalising it in a simple way is bound to fail

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it's better to have that handled semi-subconsciously imo

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:22 PM

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vocal basin and any attempt at formalising it in a simple way is bound to fail

Well, all complex things are built on simple primitives. They could be large and dense, but if we go one step at a time, then maybe it becomes easier to digest.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:23 PM

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built on simple primitives
unfortunately this is not the case

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the "primitives" themselves are extremely complicated

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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vocal basin it's better to have that handled semi-subconsciously imo

There was this quote that I really like, and also hate sometimes. It says "If you can't explain sth to someone who has no clue about it, then you yourself haven't understood it.". It essentially means you can connect the semantics behind the idea to a terminology anyone would understand.

Now this is fucking hard. We use terminology to save ourselves from rigorous and repetitive derivations. I guess at some point it shifts from explaining how it works literally to how it works metaphorically. Essentially what the essence is.

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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vocal basin the "primitives" themselves are extremely complicated

Then they aren't primitives. Primitives are supposed to be the smallest building block.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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complicated not complex

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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Complicated how?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:24 PM

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undefined behaviour is the most clearly defined part of lifetimes in rust, ironically

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Hehe

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That would make for a nice quote.

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Oh rust, the irony.

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I like it cause rust is related to metal.

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https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-family-guy-peter-griffin-balloon-family-guy-balloons-gif-26520720

Tenor

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I went through what you're going through when I did QML.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:26 PM

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the amount of complexity that &'a &'b () represents is giant

tired heron Apr 3, 2025, 6:26 PM

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what are u doing?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:27 PM

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vocal basin the amount of complexity that `&'a &'b ()` represents is giant

Rust still has a soundness bug related to that

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:27 PM

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I was like "I understand it, and can make stuff with it. However, I can't explain it perfectly at a lower level." Then I went and started reading on the low level math and started putting actual terms to stuff I didn't know the names for.

THEN I was able to make it from scratch and could actually now say what QML is. It sometimes helps to reinvent the wheel to see how it works if it's worthwhile.

tired heron Apr 3, 2025, 6:28 PM

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anyone?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:28 PM

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in safe Rust, because lifetimes are still impossible to get right even for the compiler,
using &'a &'b () and &'c T you can get a &'static T

tired heron Apr 3, 2025, 6:28 PM

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cloud

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backend

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:28 PM

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vocal basin in safe Rust, because lifetimes are still impossible to get right even for the c...

Why would it be impossible?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:29 PM

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practically impossible not theoretically

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:29 PM

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I see.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:29 PM

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vocal basin in safe Rust, because lifetimes are still impossible to get right even for the c...

Rust allows more than it should because of implied lifetime subclassing and contravariance coercions

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fun fact: these two don't do the same thing

WHERE COALESCE(NULL, example BETWEEN $2 AND $3)
``````sql
WHERE example BETWEEN $2 AND $3

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COALESCE(A, B) returns B if A is NULL

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SQLite is going insane

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that's the whole thing

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I have 1'000'000 items and I'm trying to get all queries down to 0ms of execution time

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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vocal basin fun fact: these two don't do the same thing ```sql WHERE COALESCE(NULL, example ...

COALESCE here acts as a black box

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it prevents SQLite from using a particular index

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:35 PM

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vocal basin Rust allows more than it should because of implied lifetime subclassing and cont...

So contravariance coercion is how you implicitly handle the conversion of more generic than specified parameter types to be usable?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:36 PM

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you can coerce one function to another

upper basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:36 PM

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I see. What was the other one? Implied lifetime subclassing.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:36 PM

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vocal basin you can coerce one function to another

if the latter takes longer-lived lifetimes for its arguments

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@wise loom what would you like to stream?

wise loom Apr 3, 2025, 6:40 PM

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vocal basin <@264657660190654464> what would you like to stream?

mobile telecoms towers on a map

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:41 PM

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!stream 264657660190654464 30M

wise cargoBOT Apr 3, 2025, 6:41 PM

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✅ @wise loom can now stream until <t:1743707488:f>.

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:42 PM

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I've just noticed just how close together the snowflake IDs are
264054779888533515
264657660190654464
(because joined only a day apart)

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:43 PM

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vocal basin fun fact: these two don't do the same thing ```sql WHERE COALESCE(NULL, example ...

this hack only cut the time by 20 times

wise loom Apr 3, 2025, 6:53 PM

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@vocal basin are you implementing a database engine?

vocal basin Apr 3, 2025, 6:55 PM

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no, I'm using existing databases

soft axle Apr 3, 2025, 7:29 PM

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o everyone muted

spare galleon Apr 3, 2025, 9:41 PM

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@frail glen #voice-verification

frail glen Apr 3, 2025, 9:42 PM

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yeah

spare galleon Apr 3, 2025, 9:44 PM

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go there to get voice verified

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 11:46 PM

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@somber heath Hey what you two doing here?

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I hope I have not disturbed you

spare galleon Apr 3, 2025, 11:54 PM

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whole bear <@317279909112446976> Hey what you two doing here?

talking about bees

whole bear Apr 3, 2025, 11:55 PM

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spare galleon talking about bees

Ah I see

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Have a good time!

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Opal how you doing?

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https://tenor.com/view/alone-karu-cute-frog-karu-love-gif-7237856804154422123

Tenor

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:06 AM

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now at eleven thousands

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:07 AM

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vocal basin now at eleven thousands

Do not count line, count the performance and output

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:07 AM

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it's been less than two days since 5K

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:07 AM

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whole bear Do not count line, count the performance and output

it's because of performance specifically that it's that high

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had to turn 2 queries into 23

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there's an implicit todo of "if this explodes in terms of performance, add two more queries"

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:08 AM

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Alisa you do like to code day and night!
You are like mvp from solo leveling ( Level UP )

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:09 AM

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vocal basin it's been less than two days since 5K

this evidently exponential growth is concerning

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:09 AM

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vocal basin there's an implicit todo of "if this explodes in terms of performance, add two m...

I hope. you don't have to do so!

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:09 AM

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I also know that those two queries won't actually help

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the COERCE(NULL, ...) hack won't even apply there

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:10 AM

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@vocal basin Alisa I'd like to hear you speak in voice channel never heard you speak

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:12 AM

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vocal basin now at eleven thousands

125 commits in 8 days

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not few not many

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-outta-here-gif-20990964

Tenor

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:14 AM

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so far the lesson learned is:
postgres likes complex queries,
sqlite likes simple queries

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I got most queries to under 1ms compute on the query itself and 5ms total for postgres
and under 1ms for sqlite

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for searching a few items among 1'000'000

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:16 AM

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vocal basin so far the lesson learned is: postgres likes complex queries, sqlite likes simpl...

you are writing queries for ?

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:16 AM

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sick onyx you are writing queries for ?

For you, of course!

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

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sick onyx you are writing queries for ?

just for searching through some items, regular SQL stuff

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

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i recently started using springboot and got to know it has got extensive ORM functionalities which exempts you from writing queries

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at least for CRUD operations

woeful blaze Apr 4, 2025, 12:18 AM

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Hallo

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:18 AM

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I'm not using ORMs this time

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because correctness and performance matter

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I only need to support postgres and sqlite

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mysql/mariadb aren't worth the effort presently

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:19 AM

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still is iit like worth learning about them cuz you know ai can get it to max known performance just with prompts

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:19 AM

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vocal basin I only need to support postgres and sqlite

as such I can afford writing code for each separately

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AI doesn't know performance at all

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the only way to get performance is:

measure
measure
measure

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without empirical data any "expertise" from AI (in quotes because AI has no expertise) is just noise of ideas to maybe try

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it also tends to produce overly complicated results

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that are hard to debug

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another critically important thing for performance and debugability is simplicity

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and you already know AI isn't anywhere good at that

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:21 AM

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makes sense

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may be contemporarily

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am sure it ll improve

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:22 AM

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imo context size must be lowered not increased

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it's already way past the reasonable limit

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:22 AM

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vocal basin imo context size must be lowered not increased

when that happens, AI will be able to improve

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focus matters, even for a machine

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:23 AM

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its contradictory to what google says

In AI, especially with Large Language Models (LLMs), "context size" or "context window" refers to the maximum amount of text (measured in tokens) that the model can process and "remember" at any given time. A larger context window allows the model to consider more information, potentially leading to more accurate and coherent responses, especially in longer conversations or when analyzing larger documents.

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:23 AM

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vocal basin focus matters, even for a machine

ahh i see

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:24 AM

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I mean the context size for "immediate" memory

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:24 AM

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maybe when it comes to deepthinking context size should be small

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:24 AM

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vocal basin I mean the context size for "immediate" memory

e.g. when you give AI the whole codebase

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:24 AM

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and for redundant repetitive tasks it should be large so that you can answer from a wide variety of inputs

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obviously not so large that it starts to hallucinate

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:25 AM

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allowing AI to explore the codebase instead of just giving it everything is the way forward imo

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with some sort of imitation of explicitly separated short-term and long-term memory

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from what I see, most try to just append stuff to the global-ish context

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as if AI was taking notes to a separate place

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I guess that is similar

sick onyx Apr 4, 2025, 12:27 AM

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vocal basin from what I see, most try to just append stuff to the global-ish context

like when someone chats with ai in day to day conversations ?

somber heath Apr 4, 2025, 12:28 AM

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@fiery hornet 👋

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:28 AM

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AI models had a features of "remembering" something when prompted to for a couple of years already iirc

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:29 AM

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vocal basin as if AI was taking notes to a separate place

somewhat reminiscent of people who can't form long-term memories because of brain damage;
quite a scary existence

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can't remember but can take and read notes

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with prior knowledge accessible

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(removed "and experience", since that only applies to people)

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@fast gyro what did you use to implement LRU?

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were you linking nodes using keys or pointers?

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{
  None: (None, "c", "a"),
  "a": (1, None, "b"),
  "b": (2, "a", "c"),
  "a": (3, "b", None),
}

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I like this structure because it doesn't involve recursive references

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a, b, c are keys

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1, 2, 3 are values

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key: (value, previous_key, next_key)

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this approach I don't like because it puts extra load on the GC:

class Node:
    def __init__(
        self,
        left: Node | None,
        right: Node | None,
        value: int,
    ): ...

fast gyro Apr 4, 2025, 12:36 AM

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``

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:36 AM

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remove space after py

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you put an extra space

fast gyro Apr 4, 2025, 12:36 AM

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class Node:
    def __init__(self,key,val):
        self.key,self.val = key,val
        self.next = None
        self.prev = None
    

class LRUCache:

    def __init__(self,capacity):
        self.capacity = capacity
        self.cache = {}
        self.left,self.right = Node(0,0),Node(0,0)
        self.left.next = self.right
        self.right.prev = self.left
    
    def insertNode(self,node):
        node.next = self.right
        node.prev = self.right.prev

        self.right.prev.next = node
        self.right.prev = node

    def removeNode(self,node):
        nxt,prv = node.next,node.prev

        prv.next = nxt
        nxt.prev = prv

    
    def get(self,key):
        if key in self.cache:
            self.removeNode(self.cache[key])
            self.insertNode(self.cache[key])
            return self.cache[key].val
        else:
            return -1

    def put(self,key,val):
        if key in self.cache:
            self.removeNode(self.cache[key])

        self.cache[key] = Node(key=key,val=val)
        self.insertNode(self.cache[key])

        if len(self.cache) > self.capacity:
            lru = self.left.next.key
            self.removeNode(self.cache[lru])
            del self.cache[lru]

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:37 AM

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my vscode is the best😎
-# i made my own "femboyOS" and ran it on a vnc using termux

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:38 AM

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another termux user detected

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:47 AM

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vocal basin another termux user detected

i love linux but I don't know how do I install it💔🥀

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:56 AM

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@spare galleon yes it does work

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:57 AM

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it works brainmon

primal shadow Apr 4, 2025, 12:58 AM

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Hot damn phones have come far

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:58 AM

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currently trying to figure out how multi-valued query parameters work in https://docs.rs/axum-extra

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:58 AM

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primal shadow Hot damn phones have come far

wha-

primal shadow Apr 4, 2025, 12:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/RFLA.gif

Tenor

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that is a creepy gif

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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hot damn electricity has come far

primal shadow Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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It's mostly the same

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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I was somewhat late to the whole termux thing (I think I started using it in 2020)

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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primal shadow It's mostly the same

https://tenor.com/view/smartphone-smoke-hot-battery-samsung-gif-27530139

Tenor

primal shadow Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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I have not yet begun

spare galleon Apr 4, 2025, 12:59 AM

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whole bear i love linux but I don't know how do I install it💔🥀

its not hard, heres instructions

1. lets start with mint -> https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ download the official iso from here
2. download balena etcher -> https://etcher.balena.io/ from the official site
3. stick an 8+ gig usb into your computer
4. run balena and set the target as the usb and the iso to the linux mint iso
5. put usb into target computer
6. go into bios set the usb as the boot drive
7. save bios changes and exit
8. setup linux mint
9. go into bios set drive linux mint is installed to as boot drive and save
10. remove usb
11. restart computer and enjoy```

woeful blaze Apr 4, 2025, 1:00 AM

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whole bear my vscode is the best😎 -# i made my own "femboyOS" and ran it on a vnc using te...

?

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 1:00 AM

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spare galleon its not hard, heres instructions ``` 1. lets start with mint -> https://linuxmin...

woah woah woah

vocal basin Apr 4, 2025, 1:00 AM

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vocal basin I was somewhat late to the whole termux thing (I think I started using it in 202...

it was only a little earlier than the death of some project related to VNC and end of play store support

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 1:00 AM

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woeful blaze ?

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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ok

spare galleon Apr 4, 2025, 1:02 AM

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whole bear woah woah woah

follow those instructions if you want more details ask chatgpt to help out with specific steps if you need more help or im willing to help, the hardest part is choosing the linux kernal/dist

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otherwise its not hard

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 1:02 AM

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spare galleon follow those instructions if you want more details ask chatgpt to help out with ...

https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-cheating-cheating-no-idea-idea-generator-random-gif-27526767

Tenor

whole bear Apr 4, 2025, 1:02 AM

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spare galleon otherwise its not hard

ok

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byi imma check some linux os to start with ykykฅ⁠^⁠•⁠ﻌ⁠•⁠^⁠ฅ

spare galleon Apr 4, 2025, 1:06 AM

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i use ubunto, you can try mint, POPos, manjaro, arcoLinux, idk just those are some ontop of my head, however i run a stock install of ubunto with cinnamon as my DE(desktop env)

woeful blaze Apr 4, 2025, 1:07 AM

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whole bear ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Still doesn't answer my question?