voice-chat-text-0

[supple cove]

Yeah but there's nowhere else to get any other string

[vocal basin]

if you want to print with traceback, then traceback.print_exc, if I remember correctly

[ripe viper]

so use raise or something alike?

[whole bear]

Oh No

[vocal basin]

!e

try:
    raise ValueError
except ValueError as e:
    print(e)

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[vocal basin]

here

[whole bear]

I can't breath

Stop the debate

[supple cove]

@vocal basin I need to take the key evaluation function as a lambda, not a code block with side effects

[whole bear]

Move on

[vocal basin]

!e

try:
    raise ValueError
except ValueError as e:
    print(f"{type(e).__name__}: {e}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

ValueError: 

[vocal basin]

!e

print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 100)())

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000

[supple cove]

!e try: print(1/0)
except: print("woot", e)

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     try: print(1/0)
004 |                ~^~
005 | ZeroDivisionError: division by zero
006 | 
007 | During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
008 | 
009 | Traceback (most recent call last):
010 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/VFNPZUWHVDFKELZZ6W4IAERHDY

[vocal basin]

lambdas work too, it's just regular Python

[vocal basin]

bare except:

[whole bear]

print("use code block")

[vocal basin]

you've just demonstrated one of the reasons why it's considered an anti-pattern

[vocal basin]

the only case where it's excused:

except:
    # do stuff
    raise # re-raise as is

[supple cove]

guilty as charged. Please hand me my sentence, Mama

[ripe viper]

so

try:
  print(1/0)
except ValueError as e:
  print(f"{type(e).__name__}: {e}")

is not the same as

try:
  print(1/0)
except ValueError as e:
  raise Exception(e)

[vocal basin]

no, completely different

[whole bear]

Hello yapper

Stop the yap!

[vocal basin]

if you ever except then raise something else, consider using raise ... from e

it makes tracebacks quite nice and detailed

you get, like, error A caused by error B caused by error C ...

[supple cove]

How long must we mourn that those responsible for descending Value Errors never redirected the error text to the semantic victor?

[vocal basin]

did you mean vector?

or victor as in someone who wins

[supple cove]

The victorious vector is the victorious vector, of course.

Why not both?

[vocal basin]

also this I found very useful for async

since you often end up moving errors across tasks and you still need to somehow piece them together

[ripe viper]

I never actually used threading, so I have no idea what that is.

[supple cove]

I'm not the one trying to shake API stability out from under people

[vocal basin]

async can be used without involving threading

[ripe viper]

I'm*

[hoary brook]

HI CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH SOME THING

PLSSSSS

😥😥😥😥😥🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

[vocal basin]

what do you need help with?

[vocal basin]

please don't spam emojis, the bot might time you out for that

[hoary brook]

UMM CAN I TELL U IN PRIVIT PLLS

[vocal basin]

why?

[hoary brook]

IT IS BADD I MIGHT GET BENED

[vocal basin]

wdym?

[astral coral]

lol

[hoary brook]

RAP BUT WITH A E AT THE END

[vocal basin]

???

[astral coral]

wtf

errrr maybe call the police?

this isn't a good place for this

[vocal basin]

yes, contact your local police

[keen meadow]

yes

[hoary brook]

I HAVENO EVADIN BUT I KNOW WHO DID IT

[vocal basin]

we cannot do anything to help in this situation, sorry

contact the police even if you have no evidence

[hoary brook]

IDID

[astral coral]

dude, contact the authorities, this is a programming discord, we don't know how to deal with this, this isn't an appropriate place for this

[hoary brook]

BUT HE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT IN ARE SCHOOL WAIT IS IT ILLG TO RAT HIM WITH A VIRUS

[keen meadow]

our python skill cant help you

[hoary brook]

OK SORRY

[vocal basin]

this is going to cause you more trouble than good

first priority is your sister's safety, not revenge

[hoary brook]

IDC SHE IS 6

HE IS 60

TO HELL WITH HIM

[primal shadow]

This sounds like a topic for IRL people, not internet strangers

[vocal basin]

this is not a topic we can help with.

[primal shadow]

Like law enforcement

[astral coral]

what country are you in? I can maybe look up a number you can call?

[hoary brook]

😈😈😈🙏🙏🙏

[vocal basin]

@hoary brook please discuss this somewhere else;
we're not qualified to help you, there are other communities online that might be of use

[hoary brook]

NAH IT IS ALL GOOD

OK

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

[hoary brook]

OK I WILL

[vocal basin]

("somewhere else" being not in this server)

[hoary brook]

JUST WAIT I WILL BE ON THE NEWS

[vocal basin]

and they're gone

[astral coral]

how are you @vocal basin ??

[primal shadow]

probably ebtter that way

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-1

[primal shadow]

There was an update

progress

and now I'm stuck again, lol

[wind raptor]

!stream 1297071424992841859

[wise cargo]

✅ @humble idol can now stream until <t:1743133594:f>.

[wind raptor]

!stream 1273628780207931463

[wise cargo]

✅ @whole bear can now stream until <t:1743133622:f>.

[somber heath]

@vestal cradle 👋

[vestal cradle]

hiiii

i wish i could speak

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@fervent yacht 👋

[fervent yacht]

👋

[somber heath]

@pallid torrent 👋

[wind raptor]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

[somber heath]

@short mortar 👋

[short mortar]

heloo

[peak depot]

Write: python --version

[somber heath]

@upbeat parrot 👋

[astral coral]

/usr/local/bin/python3

nano ~/.zshrc

export PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH" - add the bottom

[somber heath]

@rough silo 👋

[rough silo]

@somber heath hey!

[somber heath]

@meager apex 👋

[rough silo]

can anyone help me with learning python, I've already watched many tutorials and done projects show in thoese easily,
but whenever i do or take a project myself, i just get stuck...

what should i do//

any suggestions

right

[somber heath]

!kindling

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[rough silo]

Thank you sm<3

[dire pebble]

What is this out of nowhere? Look at the values

https://youtu.be/V_xro1bcAuA?t=13413

[somber heath]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_notation

[lean galleon]

test

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-disbelief-gif-25426768

https://tenor.com/view/madison-madison-montgomery-ahs-coven-emma-roberts-gif-15616118

https://tenor.com/view/jessica-lange-staring-ahs-coven-gif-8276131

[still tide]

@somber heath hello

ghibli trend is taking over the x

hi @upper basin

@upper basin where to find new research paper in ai field ??

for learning purpose

[upper basin]

arxiv

[still tide]

any else ??

[astral coral]

Food coma

Sorry

Can't move

Urghhhhhh

In bed with phone

[upper basin]

Arxiv is best imo.

For papers that is.

You can also just follow along github repos.

[still tide]

ok got it

i am finding model for medical image classification

[astral coral]

I find it interesting, the sub communities on this discord

[vocal basin]

"contextually, morning" aka afternoon

GitHub™️ Actions™️

(just the first association when hearing "actions" nowadays)

[obsidian dragon]

executable orders

[somber heath]

@torpid bolt 👋

@prisma spear 👋

[prisma spear]

halo guys

[somber heath]

@gusty jetty 👋

[jovial iris]

hello sir

how you doing ? @somber heath

[somber heath]

Fauxntastic.

[jovial iris]

Simply spectfauxlar

[vocal basin]

I'm not entirely sure how Discord's handling of AFK works

quite unreliable

[upper basin]

No audio activity, no keyboard and mouse activity.

If I talk but not type anything, it doesn't move me to AFK. If I type but not talk, it doesn't move me to AFK. If I only have discord open and am in call but I'm not talking, nor listening, but am actively watching sth which merits activity, then it doesn't move me to AFK.

That's how I understand it.

[vocal basin]

the latter wouldn't work in a browser

[upper basin]

Discord app behaves this way though for me.

We can test it later. I'll join call but leave myself on mute and see if it throws me into AFK or not.

I'll go out so I wouldn't be doing any activity whatsoever.

[astral coral]

https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra

?

https://x64dbg.com

[vocal basin]

@queen vigil it was likely @haughty pier

@queen vigil pgadmin

https://hub.docker.com/r/dpage/pgadmin4/

if you want GUI specifically for postgres, it's probably the best option

@queen vigil did you configure shmem for the container?

shm_size: 128mb this part

being in a container shouldn't noticeably worsen the performance

unless you're explicitly putting resource constraints onto it

[vocal basin]

from https://hub.docker.com/_/postgres docs

idk when but apparently the sound died

happy VPN times

[vocal basin]

(I did not hear the answer to this question if it was ever answered)

[primal shadow]

Hang out in the VC and respond via text to the spoken words

I am curious about this something else

Speaking of shrubbery

my wife planted an evil plant in our garden

and now it just wants to spread

[vocal basin]

Disallow

AI bros generally don't care about robots.txt

[primal shadow]

So what are we discussing?

Put it in TOS becuase the bots disregard both robots and TOS?

Use robots.txt, those who ignore it will ignore it

regardless of hwere you tell them to not scrape

[vocal basin]

the question originally was about whether scraping a specific website was okay not about protecting from scraping

I should look into how ZeroNet works

even though it looks a bit like a crypto scam

[primal shadow]

Oh, so because the AI Bros ignore robots we shoudl assume that's the new cool thing to do?

was that the train:?

[vocal basin]

you can't snapshot the internet, it's decentralised

fallacies of distributed computation are not a checklist

@molten pewter re-inventing caching?

[primal shadow]

https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

[queen vigil]

https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/nwAhJumv66C.gif

the PNW is fun

[vocal basin]

I don't really think speed is a priority of an archive

[primal shadow]

right through the Amazon?

[vocal basin]

around 300M?

[primal shadow]

No

I don't agree at all

We are not in areement

[vocal basin]

a bit less, looked up

[stuck furnace]

It's one of those countries that's bigger than it looks because of the mercator projection

[primal shadow]

What?

[vocal basin]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxqawAM4frBCZklPcq39Z6e3FVfOAAqldk

[primal shadow]

Why do you say that?

[upper basin]

@primal shadow Fixed FPS problem.

Wanna see?

[primal shadow]

Are oyu assuming you ask in bumblefuck America where Pakistan is just a far away land?

[stuck furnace]

https://xkcd.com/977/

xkcd: Map Projections

What's that? You think I don't like the Peters map because I'm uncomfortable with having my cultural assumptions challenged? Are you sure you're not ... ::puts on sunglasses:: ... projecting?

[vocal basin]

and the other funny https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxw3BDExPmwEA71trnB43gPJ-OEGathEJs

[somber heath]

@keen meadow 👋

[primal shadow]

Why are you so surprised many people live in Asia?

Nice patrol

[vocal basin]

made to look good not to be accurate

[primal shadow]

Generally speaking

Interantionally

What canada says isn't.

lol

[vocal basin]

"Russian government thinks X" and "Russia thinks/Russians think X" almost never aligns

[somber heath]

@vapid walrus 👋

[primal shadow]

grew a lot?

looks like steady growth since 1960...

Are you certain you're dropping facts and not opinions?

Because that line is increadibly stable

[somber heath]

Everyone always asks Canada, nobody ever asks Wouldada.

[astral coral]

nobody ever thinks of the children

[vocal basin]

if you go back a bit, in SU there was no correlation at all between what government says, what government does, what people think, what people say, what people do

[vocal basin]

just a bunch of independent variables

[astral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxis-will-somebody-think-of-the-galaxis-trout-gif-6970767054063728055

[somber heath]

That sounds like it would be very confusing for everyone involved.

[vocal basin]

not as much when you grow up operating that way your whole life

[vocal basin]

huh communist party of soviet union had only 19.5M members in 1989, I thought it'd be higher

CCP has around 100M

[primal shadow]

I bet the North Koreans are all about what Kim things

thinks

nothing to do with avoiding death camps

nope

it's 100% agremeent

🤣

[stuck furnace]

Is that measured at the start or end of 1989?

[vocal basin]

"hey, you always have an option to be 'redeemed' in Kursk"

[woeful salmon]

Yo LX haven't seen you in a while i feel like

[vocal basin]

not sure, but sounds a bit too early to matter yet

1990/1991 that'd be an important question

[stuck furnace]

Hey 👋 I've been around occasionally, just hiding in the background 👀 How's it going?

[stuck furnace]

Ah right

[woeful salmon]

Not good nor bad my gpu got fried so no gaming or 3d modelling

Just work and now pyweek these days

Cooking rn

[stuck furnace]

Ah that sucks

[rugged root]

On shortly, just need coffee

[vocal basin]

@queen vigil to sell certification

just like Oracle

[stuck furnace]

Are you submitting an entry?

[woeful salmon]

Yes i will

[stuck furnace]

👀

[rugged root]

submit deez nutz

[woeful salmon]

Don't expect much I'm much better at making game engines then i am at making games lol

[rugged root]

What's the prompt?

[primal shadow]

Is slapping OK in Canadian business?

That sounds very unCanadian

did he apologize

?

If soemone slapped me, I'd lose my shit

and they'd be fuckin fired

Fuck that nonsense

asshole deserves to not be in a high paying role

I don't give a shit how smart you are

[stuck furnace]

Congrats on the award @woeful salmon

[primal shadow]

human fucking decency

You can keep dumping all people in a single bucket to validate the reasoning for hte assault

[vocal basin]

maybe that's how Canadians are polite, all impolite ones are forced to be kept inside unix server rooms

[primal shadow]

but most people do not assault co workers

"those types of guys"

this is such a cop out

Up for 36 hours? I would not want them having ANY power on production

that's just askign for shit to break

[vocal basin]

SCP-127.0.0.1

[woeful salmon]

Ok food is done so im gonna go eat

[rugged root]

Printer BS

One sec

[vocal basin]

tautology

[whole bear]

@queen vigil What are you talking about?

[stuck furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-load-letter-gif-26109504

[vocal basin]

independent aka dependent on customers, supply chain, advertisement, ...

[wise loom]

@queen vigil https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjLkaXQ353210citr52k74DWb3IOzHWL7

[whole bear]

Maybe, but he is not dependent on the Boss.

He himself is boss

[stuck furnace]

@astral coral Sorry didn't catch that?

[vocal basin]

we don't normally do that I think

[stuck furnace]

Normally they should get automatically moved 🤔

Psst @molten pewter are you there? 👀

[vocal basin]

it's problematic only when it's near the channel limit of 25,
but near the limit we can't really monitor AFKness and many people are AFKish anyway

[stuck furnace]

Hey

[astral coral]

kk

[vocal basin]

the question was about @broken saddle

[stuck furnace]

Sorry for the ping 😄

[stuck furnace]

I completely misheard sorry I'm an idiot

I would guess they've got discord in open in the background and have forgotten 🤷‍♂️

[vocal basin]

Oxide has open source as one of its core business values

if you have ~four hours to spend watching stuff about corporate open-source:
#voice-chat-text-0 message

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bnY95.gif

[vocal basin]

ChatGPT won't be able to judge

[vocal basin]

where is the embed

[rugged root]

I... don't know

[vocal basin]

whatdidyoudo

[rugged root]

That's weird

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bENEo.gif

[vocal basin]

high-frequency salary when

"my proper workday did not yet start
therefore wait"

devops nightshift

@queen vigil parts are in Erlang

and/or Elixir

[molten pewter]

https://trends.builtwith.com/media/Twitch

[astral coral]

@rugged root nerd over this :3 - https://www.beyondallreason.info/screenshots

since you won't be here tomoz 😢

[molten pewter]

https://builtwith.com/twitch.tv

[vocal basin]

Twitter used to be Rails I think

or still is

[rugged root]

So clean. That looks awesome

[vocal basin]

GitHub is Rails

GitLab is Rails

[astral coral]

Total annhilation-like RTS full-scale Mech Commando

been watching games on it

it's a new game, in alpha

110 players split between 5 teams

1,000s of units

think it's max is 32,000 units?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnjBjDc4_Uk

in case you're interested

[vocal basin]

Rails being used doesn't mean all code is in Ruby

they almost certainly aren't using Rails' ORM

[stuck furnace]

Cya Opal

[vocal basin]

(was away so couldn't respond instantly)
no, Elon Musk isn't one of PayPal founders

[rugged root]

Was he not?

[vocal basin]

he is one of original x.com founders

[rugged root]

Was he just one of the programmers that got brought on early?

[vocal basin]

which got merged into PayPal

[primal shadow]

Starlink is terrible, astronomical disaster

[rugged root]

Huh

[vocal basin]

not twitter

the payment thing

[rugged root]

Right

[primal shadow]

Right now it's bad

it will only get worse

[rugged root]

In fairness to Starlink, it's the only way one of my co-workers can get internet where she lives

But that's the only fairness I can give

[primal shadow]

🤷

Shame the FCC Is gutting the rural broadband fund

"at the moment"

[rugged root]

Everything is being gutted

Left and right

[primal shadow]

"for the last ... years"

I guess they're teh same thing

[rugged root]

Like some Jeff the Killer creepy pasta bullshit

Oh no wait

[primal shadow]

❤️ seeing the farmers hurt

[rugged root]

I have a more niche reference

[primal shadow]

notign makes me happier than the proper stories of face eating leopards eating faces of their voters

[rugged root]

Johnny the Homicidal Maniac

I'll be impressed if anyone knows that reference without looking it up

[primal shadow]

Sounds familiar, don't know from where

Except for hte right to receive the death penalty

noope

they have more rights

they are unkillable by law

whereas us fleshy people are able to be executed

If I rob you of your paycheck, I go to jail.

When a corporation steals your wages...

if they are found guilty

they gotta return the money

1984?

more like 1939 1936

Straight out of Hitler's playbook

"Allies" is a strong word

We were not "allies" with Russia in WWII...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/11/death-truth-propaganda-alternative-facts-gripped-world

[rugged root]

It's comic series made by the creator of Invader Zim

[primal shadow]

Ooh, ❤️ Zim

https://tenor.com/f0z0HmQqd6Y.gif

https://tenor.com/bB46r.gif

[rugged root]

.wa s define propaganda

[primal shadow]

PUSTULIO

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause

[rugged root]

So a couple defs

[primal shadow]

Well

faith is not fact

so it is pretty much the original meaning

pushing beliefs

over facts

🤷 sounds like modern propaganda to me

I think religion is bad

so propaganda is bad

Not factual ones 🤷

[rugged root]

Or if you're from New England, it's how you say you're going to look closely at something. "Yeah I'm gonna give it a propah' gandah'"

[primal shadow]

There's facts, there's feels

sharing facts is not propaganda

Yes, in bad faith

[rugged root]

@willow light Can confirm?

[primal shadow]

convince people to buy my crap

because all that matters is my bottom line

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/U6Hd.gif

[astral coral]

empiricaism

[rugged root]

If you're really drunk and believe in ultra conservative values, would that be the "Bar-Right"?

[astral coral]

:L

[primal shadow]

Yes

they admitted htey did

and the evidence is clear

yes

but the law doesn't fucking matter

welcome to America

The party of law and order doesn't give a fuck about either

https://tenor.com/blAPU.gif

Fuck the flag

desecrate that shit

[astral coral]

👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[primal shadow]

in the name of government employees

but only the pigs, not the rest of the federal government

all government employees are bad! Except the ones with hte monopoly on violence.

worship them!

or die...

https://tenor.com/rRbeCmUNjoU.gif

So he's not a canadian proper?

[astral coral]

topic we are imagined, everything we see, hear, feel and smell are illusion of perception, the brain is like a painter to a bowl of fruit

[primal shadow]

just speaks for canada?

lol

sure, we'll solve it right away

THose in power LOVE alternative facts

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/ZsLg.gif

[primal shadow]

The dumber they are, the more likely to vote against their own interests

I do mine every February

Wait for documents? They should be in the mail no later than Jan 31.

Don't bother starting until the first week fo feb, you'll be done by the 2nd

[rugged root]

W-2's need to be

Others I think can have a delay

[primal shadow]

Go through ivnestments? Don't you just get a year end 1099?

[vocal basin]

"why won't anyone think of poor Intuit execs losing their business?"

[primal shadow]

I want the MGBA movement

Make Government Boring Again

there should not be 600 articles about the fuckups of the government every day

lol

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bJJMU.gif

[primal shadow]

I am amazed ANYONE likes the fuck

[vocal basin]

Onion hire me

[primal shadow]

First off, he's fucking dumber than dirt

holy fucking shit, how can anyone believe a word the fuck says?

[rugged root]

Why are you so mean to dirt

[primal shadow]

Because it has no brain

so it has no feels

so IDGAF bout it

[rugged root]

Same....

[vocal basin]

source of the claim: his father

[primal shadow]

He called America a shithole because he's so fuckign stupid

I lose all respect for people that like the guy 🤷 call me a bad person, IDC

[desert vector]

he hates my existence
person of color, and trans? signal the alarms

[primal shadow]

Quite literally a modern day Hitler, studied the man, is trying to be the man

[desert vector]

the only thing worse was if i was born somewhere else and lived here as a resident

[molten pewter]

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-You-Identifying-Narcissistic/dp/0593492625

[primal shadow]

The ONLY thing Trump has any expertise in, being a fuckin Nazi

[rugged root]

Being I'm not so sure. Supporting them is more accurate

And only when it benefits him

[molten pewter]

https://www.amazon.com/Clear-Present-Danger-Narcissism-Donald/dp/1630513954

[astral coral]

loooooooooooooool#

[primal shadow]

Brainworms!

https://tenor.com/qFn5qmquYw5.gif

[rugged root]

Mmmm.... delicious prions

[primal shadow]

Fuckin Zim, comin in clutch

[rugged root]

Carl Jung stuff is so crazy interesting

I love it

Genuinely

[desert vector]

jung was so interesting to learn about in psych

[molten pewter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

[vocal basin]

Trump asked Putin for a cease fire and got fuck all instead
the art of trade

[astral coral]

ahhhh I forget what that bias is called

[primal shadow]

I'm an American

[rugged root]

Which was the name of 18.04

[astral coral]

https://stevebuser.com/therapeutic-approach/ (Author)

[primal shadow]

Trumps polciies are hurting most americans

They are fucking us

Entirely

His voters are fucking idiots

Car pricves are bout to shoot up

how that helps us? fuck if I know

Idiots

[rugged root]

The trickle down effect /s

[primal shadow]

horse and sparrow economics

go eat horse shit

[rugged root]

Wait where does the sparrow come into that then

[primal shadow]

fuck calling it trickle down

feed all the oats to horses

the sparrows can eat the oats out hteir shit

if there horses have too many oats

[rugged root]

There was a reason I put the /s for sarcasm after it

[primal shadow]

that's the origin of trickle down

they rebranded

[rugged root]

Ah gotcha

[primal shadow]

under Reagan I think

I always wondered how "trickle down" was a good thing

[astral coral]

give aned deny

[primal shadow]

but it's better than telling us to eat shit

so I guess that's why it won

Don is Kompromat

Don is a traitor

straight fucking up

[rugged root]

Would be a good name for a laundromat

Probably because of the "omat" suffix

[primal shadow]

Yea, GOP senators go to Moscow on the 4th of July because they love America

He is a felon

100%

[rugged root]

Oh duh, I don't need to use the name

[astral coral]

doesn't he look like he's got bare red-eye :L

[rugged root]

@vocal basin When we were doing the nlvm thing yesterday, was there anything special you had to do to get it to compile on 18.04? Or did it even properly work

[vocal basin]

I did not test on 18.04, it was from the Dockerfile in the repo

[rugged root]

Copy that

Thanks

Oh wait what... I can just build from the docker file in the repo

The fuck, how did I miss that

Wow

Even the docker build breaks

Whelp, giving up on that for a while

Oh shit. This is cool https://testcontainers.com/

[rugged root]

A quote from the original translation in Chrono Trigger:

Am I butterfly dreaming I am a man? Or am I a bowling ball dreaming that I am a plate of sashimi? Never believe what you see and feel are real.

[stuck furnace]

It's pretty common to have visual hallucinations when your eyesight is going bad

[rugged root]

Your brain trying to interpret what you see into something comprehensible.

[haughty pier]

what was?

[rugged root]

I'm guessing someone who was talking about Nix

That's my best guess

[molten pewter]

NixOS it's greeeaaaaat!

[rugged root]

I'm warming up to it as a concept for servers

[molten pewter]

https://www.sharonpricejames.com/buy.html

[astral coral]

just something

[molten pewter]

@astral coral https://www.edx.org/learn/neuroscience/harvard-university-fundamentals-of-neuroscience-part-1-the-electrical-properties-of-the-neuron

[astral coral]

saved

I'll do that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy

[rugged root]

[...]
 .   ____          _            __ _ _
 /\\ / ___'_ __ _ _(_)_ __  __ _ \ \ \ \
( ( )\___ | '_ | '_| | '_ \/ _` | \ \ \ \
 \\/  ___)| |_)| | | | | || (_| |  ) ) ) )
  '  |____| .__|_| |_|_| |_\__, | / / / /
 =========|_|==============|___/=/_/_/_/
 :: Spring Boot ::                (v3.2.1)

Wait that's the ascii logo for Spring Boot? That's so hard to tell that's what it is

Or at least the middle of the word is

I really have to squint for it

[molten pewter]

alcohol dehydrogenase deficiency

[rugged root]

https://xmonader.github.io/nimdays/book_intro.html

A lot of these are pretty complex

Or maybe that's just me

@slim flame If you're wondering why you can't talk, check the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate

[stuck furnace]

@molten pewter I tried benadryl the other night to sleep, because I've been sick, but it just made me like delirious. Or that could have been the sickness I guess

Yeah

"Do not operate machinery"

Which child do you steal it from?

Oh, you don't mean a particular child's dose

/s

Thankfully I've now moved from the sweating and chills fire into the non-stop coughing frying pan 🙏

@gritty leaf Could you give a small example?

👋

[stuck furnace]

Could you sketch out what the result should look like?

[stuck furnace]

Ah, so you want to do some kind of aggregation?

[rugged root]

!e

ham = {"layer1": {"layer2": {"beef": 4, "pork": 3}}}
print(ham)
layer2 = ham["layer1"]["layer2"]
print()
print(layer2)
layer2["beef"] += 1
print()
print(layer2)
print(ham)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | {'layer1': {'layer2': {'beef': 4, 'pork': 3}}}
002 | 
003 | {'beef': 4, 'pork': 3}
004 | 
005 | {'beef': 5, 'pork': 3}
006 | {'layer1': {'layer2': {'beef': 5, 'pork': 3}}}

[calm lake]

whats the discussion abouttt

[rugged root]

Nested dicts

[calm lake]

cool

[calm lake]

whats the doubt

[spare galleon]

my bad

[stuck furnace]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

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[rugged root]

lectin_tertiary_dict = {
  "epithelium": {
    "follicular": {...},
  },
  "another one": {
    "follicular": {...}
  },
}

[astral coral]

if position_value%2 and position_value < 6:
     collector.appendlectin_tertiary_dict[position_value]

[spare galleon]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/HQ6A heres the code if anyone wants to tell me how i did

first time in fastapi, or a backend in python

[stuck furnace]

@gritty leaf Does your data come as a big flat table in a pandas dataframe?

Are you able to share a subset of the data as a csv?

Ah right

[vocal basin]

someone was asking who they were previously talking to about Nix, so it was probably you who they meant

[stuck furnace]

Yeah, I'm nominally a mod 😄

[elder bear]

this is chat of
vc right?

[ripe viper]

yes, but half of the time no.

[rugged root]

Depends on which VC we're in

[astral coral]

size = len(lectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)])
counter = size/size
if position_value =< (counter*3):
     collector.appendlectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)]```

[ripe viper]

use ` ``py

[haughty pier]

Feel free to @-me anytime about Nix/NixOS

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bVrty.gif

[astral coral]

size = len(lectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)])
counter = int(size/100*size)
if position_value =< (counter*3):
     collector.appendlectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)]```

?

[ripe viper]

collector = []
size = len(lectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)])
counter = int(size/100*size)
if position_value =< (counter*3):
     collector.appendlectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)]

do '''py and not just ''', but replace ' with `.

[stuck furnace]

Dog definitely heard the word "chicken"

[rugged root]

HA

!zen

[wise cargo]

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[astral coral]

thanks

[sweet lodge]

gib

no takebacksies

[ripe viper]

you can do it with others like shell, c, cpp, etc..

[stuck furnace]

@gritty leaf I was just thinking, a better way to do this might be to use the built-in aggregation function in Pandas. I'm still not clear on exactly what result you want, but you could do something like: ```py
(
df
.groupby(['epithelium_lumen', 'phase'])
.mean()
)

[rugged root]

Still working on it

I promise

[stuck furnace]

The result would be a data-frame, I think

Yeah, I've been trying to learn it better lately

[spare galleon]

here

got there first

[rugged root]

I'm not sure how we'd handle the np.array part, actually

[spare galleon]

thats what chatgpt is for, lol

[astral coral]

if str(position_value%2): ????

[rugged root]

Because I have up to stuffing the stuff into its own dictionary to accumulate it. But I don't know if you can just add those together or something

[rugged root]

He wants ALL the values

Not just the evens

[astral coral]

oh

for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)]):

[rugged root]

Back in a sec, snagging some free food Friday food

[spare galleon]

working with json sucks, lol

[ripe viper]

for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[str(position_value)]):

[astral coral]

thanks

?

[rugged root]

Not every number is represented

You'd need to use .get() to prevent an error

[astral coral]

would it work then?

[rugged root]

And you can just use dict.values() or dict.items()

Derp, I can't stop trying to answer. I food now

[gilded rivet]

pos_stained_area_list = []

for value lictin_tertiary_dict["epithelium"]["follicular"].values():

   pos_stained_area_list.append(value['pos_stained_area'])

[rugged root]

Problem is that there'd be more than "epithelium"

DUDE

HEMLOCK

FOOD

[astral coral]

for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[""][""]): ?????????????????????????

[ripe viper]

doesn't work that way.

[astral coral]

¬¬

[gritty leaf]

here

[ripe viper]

there is no element "" so it will crash, at least I remember it like this.

[astral coral]

for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[][]):????????

[ripe viper]

!e

a = {"b": {}}
for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[""][""])
  pass

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2
002 |     for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[""][""])
003 |                   ^
004 | SyntaxError: '(' was never closed

[stuck furnace]

So, I think this should do what you want, but I'd recommend trying the Pandas approach as it will make your life much easier. ```py
{
sample: {
phase_value: {
'pos_stained_area': np.concat([
subdict3['pos_stained_area']
for position_value, subdict3 in subdict2.items()
])
}
for phase_value, subdict2 in subdict1.items()
}
for sample, subdict1 in lectin_tertiary_dict.items()
}

[ripe viper]

what.

[astral coral]

!e a = {"b": {}} for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[_][_]): pass .py

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2
002 |     for _ in range(0,len(lectin_tertiary_dict[_][_]):
003 |                                                     ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[storm jewel]

@gritty leaf hey man, can you just summarize the problem again? it sounds interesting

test = {
{
{
{
}
}
}
}

[ripe viper]

.

[gritty leaf]

here

[stuck furnace]

If you could post just the column names and the first couple of rows of the data (i.e. export as csv and copy-and-paste the first like 4 lines), I could advise you on how to use Pandas to do this effectively, if you like.

[storm jewel]

t = {
'test':{
'test2':{
'2':{
"final_data":'1'
}
}
}
}

final_t = {
'test':{
'test2':[
{"final_data":'1'}
]
}
}

[sweet lodge]

STOP YELLING AT MY FRIEND

[storm jewel]

@gritty leaf

[stuck furnace]

Pastebin is probably the way to go

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
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[stuck furnace]

Yup I think

[whole bear]

Hi, im new, how do i post code

[gritty leaf]

!paste

[ripe viper]

!paste

[stuck furnace]

Hey welcome

!code

[wise cargo]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[stuck furnace]

Or the pastebin linked above

[spare galleon]

uhm use the paste bin

[storm jewel]

j = t['test']['test2'].values()

t['test']['test2'] = j

[stuck furnace]

If you need help, the best place to ask is #1035199133436354600 Feel free to make a post with your question

[astral coral]

                                            "num_1":{"1":"1","2":"2","3":"3"},
                                            "num_2":{"1":"1","2":"2","3":"3"},
                                            "num_3":{"1":"1","2":"2","3":"3"}}}}```

[stuck furnace]

Oh, could you export as CSV? It's easier to paste around as text.

Comma-separated variables, fyi

Yep

CSV, TSV, whatever 😄

Yeah we block files sorry, but you can paste it here: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

[ripe viper]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

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[ripe viper]

use this

but it's excel, so i don't think it will work

[gritty leaf]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/HCIQ

[wise cargo]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[sweet lodge]

is fine now

[ripe viper]

kind of does, but not really.

[stuck furnace]

Oh it is? 👀 I'm not up to date

[gilded rivet]

idealized data
{
1 : {'top_level_name' : "epithelium",
      'bottom_level_name' : follicular'
      'number_list' : [2,4,6,7,8],
      'pos_stained_area_list : [np.array_1, np_array_2..]
2 : ....
}

save_dict = {}
index = 0
for top_name, top_dict in lictin_tertiary_dict.items():

    for bot_name, bot_dict in top_dict.items():
        num_list = []
        array_list = []

        for num_name, num_dict in bot_dict.items():
            num_list.append(num_name)
            array_list.append("num_dict[pos_stained_area"]
        
        
         save_dict[index] = {"top_level_name": top_name,
                        "bottom_level_name: bot_name,
                         "number_list : num_list,
                         'pos_stained_area_list': array_list}
         index += 1

[ripe viper]

here is a more table alike variant https://paste.pythondiscord.com/53PA. (turn on word wrap)

[scarlet dust]

@storm jewel Grats on getting voice perms

[storm jewel]

haha thanks man

[ripe viper]

using !paste or !code

[storm jewel]

!code

[wise cargo]

Formatting code on Discord

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```py
print('Hello world!')
```

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[storm jewel]

t = {
    'test':{
        'test2':{
            '2':{
                "final_data":'1'
            }
        }
    }
}

final_t = {
    'test':{
        'test2':[
                {"final_data":'1'}
            ]
    }
}

j = t['test']['test2'].values()

t['test']['test2'] = j
print(t)

[stuck furnace]

I can grant screen-sharing permissions if you like?

[storm jewel]

i guess for a while?

[stuck furnace]

Yup]

!stream 165536887103029249 30M

[wise cargo]

✅ @gritty leaf can now stream until <t:1743184720:f>.

[stuck furnace]

Da squigles

[ripe viper]

the {} part of f"" is code alike.

[stuck furnace]

!eval ```py
import pandas as pd
import io

df = pd.read_csv(io.StringIO('''
Slide,position,phase,Culdersac,epithelium_lumen,Section (1 being closest to main lumen),Total Area,Negative Area,Positive Area,pos_stained_area
P2_16F,2,follicular,1,epithelium,1,5169.6181,2280.8264,2888.7917,55.88017614
P2_16F,2,follicular,2,epithelium,1,12315.6975,3443.4358,8872.2617,72.04026975
P2_16F,2,follicular,3,epithelium,1,3642.9443,1797.3628,1845.5815,50.66180946
P2_16F,2,follicular,4,epithelium,1,8755.6696,3540.3835,5215.2861,59.56467453
P2_7F,2,follicular,1,epithelium,1,7971.6675,6370.4966,1601.1709,20.08577126
P2_7F,2,follicular,2,epithelium,1,7122.6079,3805.2043,3317.4036,46.57568754
P2_7F,2,follicular,3,epithelium,1,5718.1391,4363.9302,1354.2089,23.68268551
P2_7F,2,follicular,4,epithelium,1,7654.2907,5385.9653,2268.3254,29.63469104
P2_7F,2,follicular,5,epithelium,1,18659.9165,11983.0137,6676.9028,35.78206151
P2_8F,2,follicular,1,epithelium,1,32393.3486,32236.7012,156.6474,0.483578904
P2_8F,2,follicular,2,epithelium,1,16978.1251,16552.8301,425.295,2.504958572
P2_8F,2,follicular,3,epithelium,1,8634.2294,8606.6758,27.5536,0.319120546
'''))

aggregates = (
df
.groupby(['epithelium_lumen', 'phase'])
['pos_stained_area']
.agg(['mean', 'sem'])
)

print(aggregates)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 |                                  mean       sem
002 | epithelium_lumen phase                         
003 | epithelium       follicular  33.10129  7.058952

[stuck furnace]

Then to select a particular entry from the table of aggregates, you can do this: ```py
aggregates.loc[('epithelium', 'follicular'), 'sem']

Gone to get something to drink, back in a bit

[stuck furnace]

Yep

Thirst quenched

Oh so that's just because pd.read_csv will only read from files, not strings.

So I had to do that to include the csv as a string in the code.

io.StringIO emulates a file

Don't worry about it

Yeah so it groups the rows of the table based on the values of one or more columns

So if two rows have all the same values in those columns, they get put into the same group

You can then aggregate over each group (e.g. taking the mean or standard deviation).

Right

Pandas, although it's built on top of Numpy

It's the same maths either way I think

I was wondering if you might like to try doing this on the full data? Just to try it out

Alright

Yeah I wasn't really following along 😄

Yeah you can

I used read_csv so I could copy and paste the data into the code.

The outermost parentheses are just so that I could split the expression over multiple lines

I never really got the hang of using debuggers effectively. I still tend to use either print debugging or assert statements

I honestly find some IDEs a bit overwhelming @spare galleon

Too many buttons

[storm jewel]

it surely have a friction but its a great thing , trust me i used to hate it haha

[stuck furnace]

Yeah I need to stop being lazy 😄

[spare galleon]

thats what im saying, it would slow down development for me, i use nvim and atom ohh and vscode

[storm jewel]

nvim + allacrity + zoxide

and kickstart

[spare galleon]

i just dont have bugs in my code, lol

[stuck furnace]

The connection's been a bit weird today

[spare galleon]

bro i keep getting rtc disconnected

[stuck furnace]

Hold on, there might be a simple way to produce plots like this in Pandas, but I need to look up the details, one sec

Yeah it's intentional

I'm not sure why we did it that way, but yeah

[spare galleon]

"Combat Assists": combat_data.get("CombatAssists", {}).get("val", 0),
"Combat Best EliminationStreak": combat_data.get("CombatBestEliminationStreak", {}).get("val", 0),
"Combat Damage": combat_data.get("CombatDamage", {}).get("val", 0),
```  why did i put spaces in these values

combat."CombatAssists"
combat["Combat Assists"]

[stuck furnace]

You could produce a boxplot (I'm not sure exactly how to make a bar-plot with error bars) like this: ```py
import pandas as pd
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt

df = ... # import the data

df.boxplot('pos_stained_area', by='position')
plt.show()

[stuck furnace]

Turns out you just have to pass a yerr argument: ```py
agg = (
df
.groupby('pos_stained_area')
.agg(['mean', 'sem'])
)
agg.plot.bar(yerr='sem', capsize=5)

Be right back

[spare galleon]

match answer:
    case "field1":
        pass
 
    case "field2":
        pass
    
    case "field3":
        pass

```i use this more then if/else, well when its possible

[stuck furnace]

@humble pumice Were you asking about streaming permissions?

Oh right

Yeah

!stream 323926281416736791 30M

[wise cargo]

✅ @humble pumice can now stream until <t:1743192184:f>.

[stuck furnace]

[spare galleon]

!voice_verification

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[spare galleon]

@gloomy crest^

[stuck furnace]

Ooh tiling window manager, nice

Yeah I love sourdough

But only occasionally

That's what bread does ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Make croutons

[spare galleon]

me toooooo

[stuck furnace]

I'm a bit microphone shy

[spare galleon]

my mom makes the greatest sourdough

i get fresh sour dough like 4 times a week

okay ima go, goodluck to yall

[stuck furnace]

Cya 👋

[stuck furnace]

I heard my name

A ago while I think

It might be more obvious with the new interface

[primal shadow]

has this always been a thing?

[stuck furnace]

Yeah I think it's been a thing as long as I've been using Discord

[primal shadow]

I guess I never noticed

[stuck furnace]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[primal shadow]

Yea

I got the UI update and then stumbled upon this finally

[stuck furnace]

Hello

You can, but you usually don't want to

I mean iterate the rows, what you originally asked

[upbeat bobcat]

Hey everyone.

[primal shadow]

howdy

[stuck furnace]

The names of the columns are given by df.columns

[upbeat bobcat]

How are you doing?

[stuck furnace]

Ok, that sounds like a group-by operation

[upbeat bobcat]

How can you do that?

[primal shadow]

I think I right clicked the other stream

there was an option to watch additionally or some kind of words

and I clicked that, and had 2 streams going

No more having to choose!

[upbeat bobcat]

I clicked that but I can only see the screen full that I clicked on not both

[stuck furnace]

Oh right, just click on the stream, and it will go back to showing you everyone as thumbnails

Then under ... de-select "show non-video participants"

[upbeat bobcat]

Got it. Thanks.

[stuck furnace]

@gritty leaf When you're doing data-analysis with Python, you might find it more convenient to use an interactive environment, like IPython or a Jupyter Notebook.

Yeah

Jupyter notebooks take that a step further in letting you intersperse formatted text, code, and images.

Yeah

Yep, it's free

It's well worth learning Pandas if you're doing data-analysis fairly often

@gritty leaf Do you want to try Jupyter?

[whole bear]

What you all are discussing right now?

So many curse word and laughs!

[stuck furnace]

Erm, I am but I need to go soon

Alright cya 👋

[mystic river]

once a wise PM once said "it needs more A.I"

[wise loom]

hello

[jovial iris]

bye sir

[dusky comet]

hello @astral coral

[astral coral]

hey

[dusky comet]

how does it

goes***

[astral coral]

yeah not bad, you?

[dusky comet]

relaxing after work before i start my pet project

[astral coral]

nice

whats your pet project?

[dusky comet]

been learning to use tkinter, and I've been making a calculator

[astral coral]

ahhhh nice man ahahahhaha

[dusky comet]

?

[astral coral]

huh?

[dusky comet]

i was questioning the ahahahahahha

brb

[whole bear]

@astral coral hello

[astral coral]

hey sorry

brb

[whole bear]

alright

[toxic viper]

yo

bro's famous

brb

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

hi, im trying to screenshare, i have no access

[whole bear]

didnt hear you, can you type pls

i need to tell a mod to give me access?

[somber heath]

Screen sharing permissions are available upon request of voice-regular moderator-level-and-above users at their discretion.

[whole bear]

ah breh

[somber heath]

What are you interested in streaming?

[whole bear]

i was trying to show my code to someone who was helping me

[quartz beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/ronnieliang-pilot-aviation-apgiaa-ronnie-gif-21853401

[whole bear]

To get access to screen share first disclose your credit card info.

[vocal basin]

the glowing thing no longer lags as catastrophically

well in firmware terms it is reset

stuff doesn't really shutdown/restart the way it's viewed on a higher level

@somber heath you've seen that Android is being reproprietarized, right?

becoming closed source

last chance to buy google pixel before it went from the most open to the most closed

if it's closed source, people will reverse engineer it anyway

(as in closed source does not increase security when you're not hosting something as a service)

EU laws explicitly allow not only reverse-engineering but also altering the software

when the reason for that is quality or security concerns

[vocal basin]

(I did just do that with Pixel 8)

allegedly Pixel 9 still allows loading a different OS

but too expensive here

[vocal basin]

... yes the phone turned out to be more expensive than my laptop

it I get a proper Linux on a phone with mobile internet working, that'd be optimal

one of the most important apps on a phone for me is obviously termux

even though it's limited, it's still, at least, the best SSH software

that sounds like a Onion article

(COBOL -> Java thing)

if they can't write good code in COBOL, they can't write good code in Java

@somber heath JITted well enough

JVM is very performant

for non-AOT one of the best options

[vocal basin]

maybe just update to COBOL 2023

and introduce proper engineering practices

big rewrite is not a viable thing most of the time

there are JVM implementations of COBOL

hopefully they at least first port to that

tbf that assumes existence of any goals of the rewrite

I don't think these guesses are moving in the right direction

[real valve]

what is that

not in a mean way

curious

what type of game

[vocal basin]

https://minesweeper.online/game/4443440535

[real valve]

minesweeper

cool

oh

same thing

wallah bro i can make that within 5 minutes

on everybodys soul

on everyone bro

[vocal basin]

there are some non-trivial parts of implementing minesweeper

[real valve]

i have so much motivation and i have watched alpha andrew tate video and i am moving to dubai

[vocal basin]

cascading opening of 0s, chording

[real valve]

habibi come to dubai

habibi come to dubai

leave dubai and come back

GET OUT

omg u no in dubai

no sigma

no alpha

no man

on my soul dubai is not a tourist cty its a really good city with very good weather rich history and kind people

and only workers have built the city

absolutely insane

[vocal basin]

for me, as a Russian woman, the probability of being in Dubai for purposes not related to human trafficking is very low

[real valve]

as a russian women?

habiib come to dubai

everyone come to dubai

[real valve]

???

bro what

i read the last part

dude geniuely what the sigma

[vocal basin]

did Durov come back to Dubai already I wonder

[real valve]

i didnt know people in russia had internet bro

do you guys have bluetooth

???

microwaves

functioning electricity

bro habibi come to dubai bro we have everything

forget russia

[vocal basin]

$10 for gigabit internet a month, relatively cheap internet

[real valve]

habibi come to dubai

bro i thought u guys had that bald guy thats obsessed with ukraine brp

what more

do you need

???

HABIBI COME TO DUBAI

even i a german sociologist prefere dubai

the west has fallen

hell no you guys have spiders

koalas

snakes

by life yes animals no

why would you even be in australia???????

do you ride kangaroos or do you guys have cars???

habibi come to dubai

forget australia

kangaroos stepping in your yard??+?

so what you go to work and when you step out you see kangaro infront of you?

come to dubai

we have andrew tate alpha sigma

bro

you missing out

dubai dubai dubai

[vocal basin]

what do all these words mean

[real valve]

it means that i, the alpha, am living a successfull life.

pol pot?

are you two connected

[vocal basin]

I'm too boomer brained for whatever kids these days invent/talk about, I just cannot adapt this word set in any way

[real valve]

you seem to know about him alot opal

a little too much.

[real valve]

i bet 5 bucks you are 14

on everybodies soul

everyones

[vocal basin]

I would tell you where to send the money, since you bet and lost, but rule 9

[real valve]

i dont even got money

haha

get noobed

anyone wanna play chess

i am proffesional

[vocal basin]

https://lichess.org/bsip2A6P

[real valve]

opal mist hop on chess.

ggs

i have never played bullet before

but it was fun

thanks

[vocal basin]

I used to play it a ~year ago I think

[real valve]

i did ton of mistakes meanwhile you were more accurate than me by a landslide

[vocal basin]

I dropped chess for a while, almost exclusively playing this instead

[real valve]

if we played like 3 min games you would won

win

my bad

[vocal basin]

@somber heath transcription:

America
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

!rule 4 @real valve

[wise cargo]

Rules

4. Use English to the best of your ability. Be polite if someone speaks English imperfectly.

[real valve]

had to go

bye bye

[somber heath]

@surreal stream 👋

[surreal stream]

Hey

[vocal basin]

I might be somewhat stuck

okay, I get a potential excuse to end the game early

nvm I guess it right

[scarlet halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342502877125415032/1355543610933645443/kjsZZpDYnlcBqqW.gif

[vocal basin]

the gambling approach did not pay off

[scarlet halo]

lmao

[vocal basin]

why that specific cell: it would've prevented a certain 50/50 later on

[somber heath]

@vale nacelle 👋

[vocal basin]

first click is non-mine, therefore guaranteed win

I wonder if there are stats of how many 8s I opened

each opening gives me somewhere between 1 and 3 tickets

• some number of 8s opened not when logged in

[obsidian dragon]

seems a bit L8

[dreamy totem]

Yo are you Swedish

[vocal basin]

can't play on chess.com because of Karjakin