oh lawd 😩. might need to start looking at flights
#voice-chat-text-0
hasty orbit
willow light
I'd like to be in Finland, have some real winters again.
vocal basin
sudden call happened
willow light
Be able to see the Lights more reliably too
Living at 43 N is getting a little too warm for me.
vocal basin
i hate dynamic table creation i hate dynamic table creation i hate dynamic table creation
why is everything always so broken when that is done
willow light
I won't give me exact coords, but 70 W 40 N is pretty close. It's also the "If a storm center is west of there we get lots of snow, if the storm center is east of there we get nothing."
willow light
i hate dynamic table creation i hate dynamic table creation i hate dynamic table...
could be worse, could be manual. with punch cards.
vocal basin
why do I have to teach basic SQL rules so radically for things to work at all
rugged root
One of the first things I checked was the water heater/furnace room and it smelled fairly strongly of gas. I know in the house I used to live in, the smell of gas was never that strong.
There were water spots under the sinks in both the master and hall bathrooms that concerned me as well. It wasn't to the point where the wood was warping, but that would still be something I would look into.
There were a couple screens that were busted in the windows.
There were scrapes and chipped paint around some of the door handles (which is a minor thing but it still caught my attention).
Just outside of the crawlspace door there was a very large hole or divot in the dirt. My concern there is rain water accumulation that could soak and go under the house. In the previous house we lived in, we had a foundation crack and sliding, so those kinds of things make me a bit paranoid.
The door to the crawlspace was also locked so I wasn't able to investigate under the house to see if there were any issues with foundation sliding, mold or mildew, possible signs of animals living under there, etc.
This is a small one, but when you enter the house into the main room, if you turn to the right and face that wall there is a separation in the paint between where the wall and the ceiling join at that corner. It stuck out to me because of previous roof sliding issues I've seen in other locations.
The last one that jumped out at me was the wooden framing around the garage door on the outside. It was rather greened and didn't appear to be weatherized. While that wouldn't be an issue for a tenant for a quite a few years, I would still look into getting the wood treated or painted to protect it.
I apologize for the long list, but I thought it was worth bringing up for future tours.
willow light
I wish my landlord was this specific. they just said "you need to clean your kitchen and bathroom" and gave no specifics.
Especially grating since I did clean them.
whole bear
Apartment, hemlock lives in apartment?
vocal basin
commieblocks, the superior form of housing
willow light
commieblocks, the superior form of housing
I'd argue mixed-use brownstones are slightly better.
Or perhaps mixed-use commieblocks. Ground floor is cafes/retail, upper floors are residential/offices. Everything is walkable as a result.
vocal basin
$2200/month seems sane in some places in Moscow
willow light
$2200/month seems sane in some places in Moscow
I'm in a 1 bedroom for $1700/month but only because they accidentally lowered the rent instead of raising it, and I signed the renewal before they had a chance to fix it.
The total is still closer to $2000/month because I pay for a parking spot underground. In a downtown area. in a city that still gets snow sometimes.
whole bear
$2200/month seems sane in some places in Moscow
Really?
willow light
and because I live in a car dependent area.
rugged root
I'm in a 1 bedroom for $1700/month but only because they accidentally lowered th...
And this is why I'm happy I live in a low cost of living area
quartz beacon
And this is why I'm happy I live in a low cost of living area
he lives in a Missourian ghetto
😔
rugged root
HA
quartz beacon
or is it Missour-able
willow light
And this is why I'm happy I live in a low cost of living area
I cannot handle the heat/culture in the low CoL areas...
The State of Missouri is The State of Misery
vocal basin
in 2013 Marseille apartment rental prices were only 1.5~2x that of Moscow (and less square metres in Moscow than in Marseille)
so like even back then it was not cheap here, nearly European prices
willow light
Missouri, Ohio, and New Jersey: The three states people love to shit on.
Despite the fact that, climate-wise, Ohio is probably the safest place a person can move to right now.
whole bear
in 2013 Marseille apartment rental prices were only 1.5~2x that of Moscow (and l...
Really?
You guys pay 1 / 8 of earning in rent!
willow light
I don't have a basement, I live on the 4th floor of an 1820s cotton mill.
vocal basin
in 2013, 50% in rent in Moscow is normal
willow light
Yeah Hemlock was an old-school let's player. You know, a la slowbeef, or ProtonJon, or Psychedelic Eyeball, or thevoiceofdog
vocal basin
God created world in half a sprint and 143 story points
willow light
Missouri drivers are far better drivers than New Jersey drivers, let alone Massachusetts drivers.
whole bear
in 2013, 50% in rent in Moscow is normal
Damn!
willow light
The term we use in this case is Levant.
rugged root
https://youtu.be/9OmwI4yblqQ?si=DZANaV1YyQFuDAKX
So what exactly is your obsession with posting stuff about me?
I'm curious
willow light
They would've spoken Aramaic in the levant, although there may have been packets of Latin and/or Ancient Greek due to the Empire and/or Alexander the Great
I was more interested in the Achaemenid Empire than the Roman Empire.
vocal basin
agnosticism is a weird thing too
astral coral
ikr
whole bear
So what exactly is your obsession with posting stuff about me?
I think you’d make a great voice actor! At the 1:20 mark, your voice changed, and I found it really funny.
rugged root
I tried to be at one point
vocal basin
@rugged root afaik it's about "you can't know" dogma
willow light
I'm not religious...unless we're talking about the correct way to do italian cooking.
Or arguing over bbq sauces.
Or arguing over which programming language is best.
rugged root
But I wouldn't have a chance to anymore
vocal basin
uhhh
whole bear
But I wouldn't have a chance to anymore
I knew!
vocal basin
I think we should just stop using the term it's too misused already
quartz beacon
.topic
viscid lagoonBOT
vocal basin
topic gacha
rugged root
Apple II GS
willow light
I forgot what it was called, but it was a Dell that came with Windows 95. I was born in '92, so, yeah...
I live in an area where everything is considered gender neutral, but only because we tend to not take gender into account when we're road raging. We are equal opportunity assholes in the northeastern US.
Jikky, calm down, we get it.
whole bear
Jikky is being hyper sensitive!
hasty orbit
😂
willow light
Au contraire, you can use all sexist terms against genderqueer folks like jikky and I. They all apply.
Jikky is enby, and I'm genderfluid. It works out.
How much did you have where 5% is hitting you that hard? The beers we have here are usually 11%.
Red beers
New England breweries make 'em strong.
Although my preferred beer is the Fiddlehead Second Fiddle (double IPA)
hasty orbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_pale_ale @rugged root
vocal basin
international phonetic alphabet
hasty orbit
lol yeah
willow light
@rugged root that's too bad becuase I am a huge fan of New England IPAs. They're like regular IPAs except even stronger flavors, and almost never transparent.
rugged root
I like coffee stouts as well
willow light
Ok I cannot do stouts. Too bitter for me.
My preferred drink, though, is Downeast Cider.
somber heath
stdout
rugged root
Sorry, stouts are too bitter, but IPAs are fine?
willow light
astral coral
:L
willow light
Sorry, stouts are too bitter, but IPAs are fine?
IPAs have more pleasant flavors to me.
astral coral
I hate cider :L
rugged root
How dare you
astral coral
:fingeremoji:
whole bear
I think alcohol should be banned nation wide!
vocal basin
@rugged root describe the sound of displeasement you make when drinking IPA according to this table:
rugged root
I'm not even drunk and that confuses the shit out of me
willow light
There's a brewery in the I-95/MA-128 ring that does a wicked good Wild Maine Blueberry Ale.
whole bear
As long as individual is rich
willow light
@rugged root tbh anywhere south of the mason-dixon line isn't safe for us queers.
vocal basin
Kvass
hasty orbit
I think alcohol should be banned nation wide!
i think all substances should be legalised, regulated, taxed, and educated about
willow light
I want to try kvass someday.
willow light
I just use my fermentation vessels for kombucha, so I haven't had a chance to make any kvass. Anyone know if the LifeOfBoris recipe actually works?
vocal basin
kombucha is 0.4%
the lifeforms involved in its creation start breaking down alcohol when it reaches that point
rugged root
I just use my fermentation vessels for kombucha, so I haven't had a chance to ma...
Wait, what's a fermentation vessel? Like I know the intent, I've just never heard of a specific product or something being that other than at breweries
vocal basin
cyberstate
astral coral
WhAt DoEs IiC mEaN
willow light
Seeing that wide ass smile while he was doing a cooking video with his wife and son was so wholesome.
hasty orbit
WhAt DoEs IiC mEaN
licma?
vocal basin
@quartz beacon rate not grade?
hasty orbit
heheheh
vocal basin
second-rate
willow light
I mean, I'm trying to get a passport for somewhere in Europe, preferably one that is a. In the EU, b. joining the EU soon, or c. can be used as a stepping stone to get into the EU.
primal shadow
Hello
whole bear
i think all substances should be legalised, regulated, taxed, and educated about
It doesn’t matter to me—alcohol should be banned. I lost my grandfather in the worst way possible because of tobacco and alcohol. No one in my family drinks or smokes, and we prefer to stay away from those who do.
vocal basin
bcantrill made a mistake of sharing with his mother how one of the managers called him "first grade debugger" instead of "first rate debugger"
willow light
I'm quite willing to leave the US if I have to, but I'd much rather stay here if possible. That "if possible" is doing a lot of heavy lifting these days.
upper basin
@wind raptor would you like to see the soldier?
primal shadow
It doesn’t matter to me—alcohol should be banned. I lost my grandfather in the w...
I feel the same way about added sugars
should be banned
!
hasty orbit
It doesn’t matter to me—alcohol should be banned. I lost my grandfather in the w...
you will always have that option
primal shadow
death penalty for those who peddle sugar
vocal basin
сухой law
willow light
The issue is that I've become somewhat dependent on cannabis as a sleep aid, so I'd have to be in an area where that's legal.
There are dry counties in the US. The next town south of me (Dunstable) is a dry town.
As in it is illegal to buy and sell alcohol in that town.
vocal basin
"and that's why ФСКН was involved in drug trade, right?"
willow light
Oh it is quite easy to overdose on something "clean"
Then again, I do live in an area where we, out of necessity, have narcan dispensers on every single street corner.
I don't really drink alcohol these days, I mostly replaced it with cannabis.
At most I'll have two drinks, but only if someone else pays. It's a very good system for staying sober.
vocal basin
.wa short density of ethanol
viscid lagoonBOT
vocal basin
close enough
willow light
.wa short density of ethanol in freedom units
viscid lagoonBOT
vocal basin
what is the freedom unit of density
astral coral
:L
astral coral
what is the freedom unit of density
1 eagle shot
whole bear
By ‘banned,’ I mean alcohol shouldn’t be readily available like groceries. In dry states, people can still drink as much as they want, but only with a legal permit. I believe access should be strictly controlled.
rugged root
what is the freedom unit of density
Football fields
hasty orbit
wtf is an ounce
willow light
what is the freedom unit of density
bald eagles per swimming pool
vocal basin
Football fields
per pint
astral coral
28 grams
willow light
large boulder the size of a small boulder
willow light
we usually use slugs per cubic foot
astral coral
.35 is £30 :/
hasty orbit
nah i mean 28.34g
willow light
the imperial unit is slugs/ft^3
whole bear
By ‘banned,’ I mean alcohol shouldn’t be readily available like groceries. In dr...
And zero tolerance to drug dealer and drug consumer.
This video explains it well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PXAOZwvv04
willow light
$30 for an eighth? It's $20 in Massachusetts.
hasty orbit
$30 for an eighth? It's $20 in Massachusetts.
that's the US....
astral coral
WeLl We DoNt HaVe FrEeDoM
willow light
I live in a prohibition state, but I can drive a maximum of three hours in any direction to be in a location where it is either legal, or I'm underwater
hasty orbit
WeLl We DoNt HaVe FrEeDoM
keep telling the americans that 😌
primal shadow
Work keeps getting in the way of listening
vocal basin
@rugged root which compiler
astral coral
.wolffram
faint raven
@vocal basin yo isn't this a python server why we talking about politics when we can talk about centering a div
faint raven
what are you're thoughts on this
hasty orbit
<@264054779888533515> yo isn't this a python server why we talking about politic...
wrong server for that dude. you want the webdev server for that haha
astral coral
.wolfram
viscid lagoonBOT
quartz beacon
<@264054779888533515> yo isn't this a python server why we talking about politic...
it's an offtop vc
astral coral
.wolfram (0.7x75
viscid lagoonBOT
astral coral
urgh
hasty orbit
based HTTP 418 Error
faint raven
based HTTP 418 Error
you gotta use https
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> yo isn't this a python server why we talking about politic...
if you want to talk about centring a div, you can talk about centring a div but we can't guarantee others will be interested in that
willow light
<@264054779888533515> yo isn't this a python server why we talking about politic...
programming discords tend to be full of people with ADHD, good luck keeping us on-topic at all, no matter what the topic
faint raven
if you want to talk about centring a div, you can talk about centring a div but ...
:3
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> which compiler
So I'm trying to compile this in an Ubuntu dev container: https://github.com/arnetheduck/nlvm
And this is the error output I'm getting: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/G4TA
It's driving me bonkers
willow light
I usually visualize the 4D matrix in my head, it's the only way I was able to work with the turbulent kinetic energy budget equation in boundary layer meteorology class
the atmospheric pressure tensor and the turbulent atmospheric friction tensors, specifically
vocal basin
So I'm trying to compile this in an Ubuntu dev container: <https://github.com/ar...
what exact base image?
primal shadow
romo - ROMantic intent in the interactiOn
vocal basin
tf did I just do why is the browser split
rugged root
devcontainers/base:jammy
hasty orbit
romo - ROMantic intent in the interactiOn
no. just no
willow light
It feels weird seeing containers being built with tools other than buildah, skopeo, and podman.
Then again, I've been spending too much time with RHEL/Fedora based systems.
rugged root
I got it by making creating a dev container directly from VS Code, so I don't quite know how I'd find it
willow light
Police chase just ended right outside my window
vocal basin
willow light
Oh the perp is trying to escape on foot. brb
rugged root
hasty orbit
Police chase just ended right outside my window
so you got away clean, then?
hasty orbit
Oh the perp is trying to escape on foot. brb
nvm
vocal basin
@rugged root what have you installed so far?
hasty orbit
still running
willow light
so you got away clean, then?
No, I'm just watching but keeping my body behind a concrete wall just in case.
I do live in a concealed carry state, after all.
It's a pretty safe assumption that anyone you meet may be packing heat.
hasty orbit
I do live in a concealed carry state, after all.
gotta love them freedoms
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> what have you installed so far?
Yeah I'll start fresh. I started this yesterday so I'm foggy on what else I did
willow light
@rugged root is there something going on with the servers? I keep jumping up to 1000 ms pings.
willow light
Autism in the workplace: too honest to be believed, too different to be heard.
primal shadow
<@98195144192331776> is there something going on with the servers? I keep jumpin...
I got nothin
willow light
"You don't look Autistic"
"It has a look?"
willow light
I got nothin
I'm at 500ms right now
primal shadow
still 89
rugged root
I'd have to check the discord server status page
willow light
Hang on, let's see if I have enough data left in my plan to tether to my phone
astral coral
OoF
willow light
Ok I'm getting 360 ms when I tether to my phone
astral coral
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWG
wind raptor
Hey @woeful salmon!
woeful salmon
hello 🙂
astral coral
yo
whole bear
I like how you all have so much of knowledge, yet humble!
woeful salmon
it goes good but just had a bit of a annoying thing today
primal shadow
It's Dark and Hell is Hot is such a fire album
willow light
Ok I can hear people at 1090 ms, when tethered to my phone. however, when I am on the cafe wifi, I can't hear anyone at 300 ms.
wind raptor
it goes good but just had a bit of a annoying thing today
How's the game jam going?
woeful salmon
i was writing something for work and i just could not write strings
my double quote wasn't working turns out my windows switched keyboard layout to English UK and that has @ and " replaced....
primal shadow
willow light
i was writing something for work and i just could not write strings
we could always vibe code them /sarcasm
whole bear
wind raptor
my double quote wasn't working turns out my windows switched keyboard layout to ...
Oh no. That's a fun problem to debug
upper basin
@woeful salmon You watching?
whole bear
upper basin
I finished soldiers.
woeful salmon
i will 1 sec
willow light
my double quote wasn't working turns out my windows switched keyboard layout to ...
can relate, since my phone keyboard keeps switching to spanish for no reason, and muscle memory hits hard
vocal basin
@rugged root install lld, delete the source directory, redo the build instructions
woeful salmon
nice
primal shadow
I accidentally flipped to my Russian keyboard today
not sure what the hotkey is
I just have it to stop the hacks
willow light
"can't read books" sounds like you have an acute case of GenZ
vocal basin
their make clean is incomplete
quartz beacon
"can't read books" sounds like you have an acute case of GenZ
adhd, but yes
primal shadow
wild timber
i need somebody to review my code im having problem and chat gpt is not giving me what i want
primal shadow
I don't use the keyboard, just have it there to kill Russian malware
woeful salmon
How's the game jam going?
as for game jam i was using pumunk for physics but turns out its very very buggy for games so i'm now switching to a more basic physics engine and making custom code for more dynamic stuff probably 🙂 will see how it goes
willow light
I know for a fact that literacy among GenZ and GenAlpha is at the lowest level of any generation since 1800
wild timber
i need somebody to review my code im having problem and chat gpt is not giving m...
anyone want to help me ?
primal shadow
But there's a hotkey to quickwap keyboards in windows
and I have no idea what it is, but this morning I hit it
vocal basin
<@98195144192331776> install `lld`, delete the source directory, redo the build ...
@rugged root did it start building after that?
willow light
Possibly even 1600
willow light
And then there's rural areas. It is exceptionally rare to find a fisherman in Maine who can read and write.
primal shadow
Civil Rights
vocal basin
apt-get update
apt-get install -y libpcre3-dev libssl-dev libsqlite3-dev ninja-build cmake lld
git clone https://github.com/arnetheduck/nlvm
cd nlvm
git submodule update --init
make
is what we call it
woeful salmon
I accidentally flipped to my Russian keyboard today
another language would be fine because then i can see its different language... the problem was it was english and only thing that wasn't working was the "
wild timber
<@98195144192331776> did it start building after that?
will you review my code for me to help me ?
woeful salmon
too me a solid 5 mins to notice
vocal basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
wild timber
shit anyone* interseted in helping ?
quartz beacon
willow light
another language would be fine because then i can see its different language... ...
and that's why I just use US INTL at all times.
vocal basin
@wild timber
rugged root
```sh
apt-get update
apt-get install -y libpcre3-dev libssl-dev libsqlite3-dev n...
Do you know why they would say to put it in $SRC?
vocal basin
Do you know why they would say to put it in `$SRC`?
cd wherever you want
wild timber
<@558754412730777619>
do i download the file and sent it here ?
vocal basin
I'm just skipping that step and compiling directly in /nvlm
vocal basin
do i download the file and sent it here ?
if you have a GitHub (or somewhere else) repo, you can send a link to that;
if you only have the file locally, you can use the pastebin from that message
willow light
I don't fw devcontainers, but that's mostly because I use neovim instead of vscode. So I usually just use volume management to work with the files and run in a throwaway pod.
wild timber
wise cargoBOT
Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.
wild timber
the amount of rocks is staying constant its chosing one number and leave it for the whole round
wild timber
but iwant it to change like each time a rock reach the bottom
upper basin
@woeful salmon Two issues. For some of the animations I needed much more space compared to the 90 other percent. Like death animations have blood splatter which needs more space, soldier_3 has smoke flare animation, so we need to do sth about their offsets.
There's also the speed issue. The frames need to be changed much faster.
Besides that, the animation coding should be done.
Next we have to add the collisions (Banjo hitting soldiers, soldiers shooting at Banjo, Banjo walking past soldiers).
astral coral
woeful salmon
<@128363483828977664> Two issues. For some of the animations I needed much more ...
all frames don't need to be the same size you could add some size variance
vocal basin
make clean wouldn't work
tepid mantle
man these are good
vocal basin
I checked
upper basin
all frames don't need to be the same size you could add some size variance
They don't match perfectly then.
astral coral
Crackerlacking
rugged root
I do wonder if it's because I was installing the other Nim stuff first
keen meadow
Guys do you like kebab
upper basin
We need to deal with their offsets hehe. So annoying.
woeful salmon
their center should be the same
vocal basin
W parentheses L brackets
rugged root
Guys do you like kebab
Haven't actually had it
keen meadow
rugged root
Looks good, though
woeful salmon
have you actually tried it? just manually use get_texture to get a few parts first then try doing a loop or something later if it works
rugged root
Going out with a bang
quartz beacon
https://tenor.com/view/mate-cheers-demoman-gif-18514440
dem man
rugged root
@quartz beacon you can leave without announcing that.
quartz beacon
<@327179626306863104> you can leave without announcing that.
i know, but i really wanted to :)
rugged root
There's literally no point in doing so, and it would only serve to give hurt feelings, confusion, and irritation
quartz beacon
i'm evil 😈 like that
rugged root
So please, don't
quartz beacon
my b
rugged root
You hate it when others rile you up, give the same courtesy
quartz beacon
true
primal shadow
What if I enjoy getting riled up? Can I rile the others?
rugged root
tepid mantle
What if I enjoy getting riled up? Can I rile the others?
you can rile me up!
rugged root
primal shadow
primal shadow
What game?
tepid mantle
What game?
rivals
primal shadow
Oh
You will
A memory leak eventually catches up
More RAM Just delays the inevitable
vocal basin
my pagefile has grown to almost twice the ram
tepid mantle
my pagefile has grown to almost twice the ram
?
vocal basin
@rugged root I had the same error, it just doesn't clean correctly
re-cloning was critical
you just needed to install lld before the error
semi-permanent damage otherwise
caching issue
vocal basin
?
113GB
docker system prune
stop them first
it will delete stopped
@rugged root misconfigured kill signal
rugged root
vocal basin
you also don't need a dev container to compile, use dockerfile instead
it won't clean up volumes
you need to do that manually
or volume prune
@rugged root --volumes
add --volumes to system prune
@rugged root are any of the volumes named?
whole bear
I need some help
vocal basin
docker system prune --all --volumes
docker volume prune --all
vocal basin
docker system df
primal shadow
primal shadow
vocal basin
Is there a way to find a logs of Windows?
event viewer?
whole bear
event viewer?
How?
primal shadow
some people hate storage
whole bear
My display completely black out!
vocal basin
`docker system df`
@rugged root it is
primal shadow
Why not?
vocal basin
okay this seems more real
@rugged root your build is going to fail
something else is missing if you're doing the same thing
it can't time
it's using the wrong shell
for whatever reason
vocal basin
you need to alter the Makefile, then install clang
hasty orbit
i'll be back
primal shadow
Been drinking since the womb, a good time
whole bear
@idle hazel Drink sanitizer
vocal basin
and libzstd-dev allegedly
whole bear
It's much stronger
vocal basin
primal shadow
Why can't we talk about alcohol?
We're all enjoying the chat
you wanna change the subject https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/799641437645701151
great place to chat about what we're not talking about
Cool, so go to the other channel
and hate vegans there
astral coral
can we shit on Python for oncE?
primal shadow
🤷
whole bear
@idle hazel You are 80% accent and 20% english!
rugged root
can we shit on Python for oncE?
What do you mean for once
astral coral
:L
primal shadow
We have rules
whole bear
@idle hazel 3 quadrillion, including ur m..
primal shadow
and break the rules get banned
lol
So leave
Instead of telling him there's mods here, you should just enforce the rules without announcing
People who only follow rules when mods are around should not be coddled
👋
wind raptor
!voicemute 1316676197937315901 trolling in chat
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @idle hazel permanently.
primal shadow
thank you
primal shadow
You wanna leave the server entirely?
vocal basin
was I really just too "innocent" to understand the question and why it was inappropriate lmao
wind raptor
!timeout 1354844829686829087 1w take some time to read the rules of the server
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@rugged root okay so some tests pass and some tests sigabrt/sigsegv
astral coral
bye bye
primal shadow
permaban now?
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @idle hazel until <t:1743091246:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
whole bear
What the hell!
wind raptor
!cban 1316676197937315901
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @idle hazel permanently.
whole bear
vocal basin
clean, purge, compromised
primal shadow
what's the difference between clean and purge?
For 15 different reasons
In a server with half a million users
I Imagine accounts get compromised a bit
vocal basin
the whole history not only recent I think
whole bear
Why he pretends to be russian?
olive hedge
whole bear
My intuition makes me think this @ripe viper is same vlad
primal shadow
IDK about all that
though had the other guy not gotten hit with the C I Could better check
rugged root
My intuition makes me think this <@971674745194049586> is same vlad
If it is we'll deal with it
But it doesn't matter for now
whole bear
But it's strange that some fella named Vlad just got banned and another fella named Vlad entered the VC
astral coral
he was in chat before
primal shadow
almost as if we don't all have unique names
astral coral
the vlad who got banned
rugged root
Stupid question: if I set up a dev container through VS Code so that it does the magic for me (or I guess snag the dev container from docker hub), is there anything I'd need to do other than spin it up and connect to it via SSH?
primal shadow
How bad can this vlad be?
vocal basin
@rugged root btw, that thing is supposed to be built on Ubuntu 18
rugged root
That's so stupid
vocal basin
Stupid question: if I set up a dev container through VS Code so that it does th...
there is no magic
it just uses the base image
then installs VSCode into it
whole bear
I do admire Linux, without finnish.
Linux won't be possible!
ripe viper
How bad can this vlad be?
tried screenshots or is the brightness set to 100%?
rugged root
there is no magic
This is me doing the "how can I make this work with Sublime"
There's no good reason for me to be doing this, I should just give in and use VSC
vocal basin
what part do you want to run inside the container? the language server?
whole bear
@ripe viper Hey vlad, unmute and speak bro!
ripe viper
- i got hacked of discord, i had a 5 year account;
astral coral
dw vlad, you're cool man
ripe viper
- i don't have a microphone, the internal one sounds like an active turbine
rugged root
what part do you want to run inside the container? the language server?
The compilers and stuff. The issue is that I keep triggering our anti-virus and it shows up as a "noteable event". Also typically blocks some of the compilers, so it's a headache
And it was convenient to have the code and what not in the container
Keep it all neatly packed up
https://github.com/domeide/sublime-docker
Oh sick there's a plugin for- oh last commit was 9 years ago
rugged root
LSP's aren't the issue. Sublime has most of that handled: https://lsp.sublimetext.io/language_servers/
astral coral
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no crackers 😦
vocal basin
you can just mount the source directory into the container
docker run -it --rm -v ./:/src whatever/image whatever command
rugged root
Would that trigger an issue when I compile? I for some reason thought that volumes were kept separate. No idea why
vocal basin
Would that trigger an issue when I compile? I for some reason thought that volu...
this is a bind volume
I think
not the internal volume
rugged root
I mean this is going to be more trouble than it should be. No idea why I'm trying so hard on this
I do like going through that LSP list from time to time
You find some gems. Like Leo:
Huh there's quite a few cypto and block chain languages
vocal basin
is this https://austral-lang.org/features there
rugged root
Surprisingly not listed
astral coral
vocal basin
Huh there's quite a few cypto and block chain languages
Scamidity
rugged root
Toit seems interesting: https://toitlang.org/
olive hedge
vocal basin
@olive hedge we all know that language evolution stopped at Lisp
SICP got rewritten from Scheme to Scheme
astral coral
vocal basin
Box::leak ✨
vocal basin
or done having reached the perfect state
s u do
doas on Alpine
I've got dockerd running on Alpine, seems to work
primal shadow
Turning down your volume 🙂
astral coral
rugged root
Turning down your volume 🙂
Whose?
vocal basin
of the one who asked, Animmo, presumably
rugged root
primal shadow
Whose?
The person who joined and was loud
and asked what people were up to
approximately 10 minutes ago
rugged root
@obsidian dragon database.html
astral coral
database.bat
primal shadow
what is database.sql?
rugged root
sqlite3 file I think
primal shadow
they're .db
rugged root
They're also .sqlite
primal shadow
I guess some DDL for the DB/
rugged root
They have multiple
primal shadow
.sql is normally plaintext SQL is all
rugged root
Fair
jade mountain
last one is me
primal shadow
nope, meant none of it bot, I meant .sql
astral coral
last one is me
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
wise cargoBOT
@primal shadow My bad
primal shadow
so database.sql and database.txt should basically be the same file
primal shadow
<@221417491136512010> My bad
Unacceptable
astral coral
database.ini
olive hedge
raw carbon
jade mountain
rugged root
That's a hostage chair
astral coral
dry jasper
ANET A8
lean galleon
i guess you could say they're gonna bamboozle their customers
rugged root
Wait, why is there a dev container for Markdown
rugged root
i guess you could say they're gonna *bamboozle* their customers
Well played
ripe viper
That's a hostage chair
no, it's for the ">1000 problems in workspace" VSCode error after loading for 15 minutes.
primal shadow
Did you see that cool new one with lasers?
rugged root
I do love lasers
astral coral
Ender ❤️
rugged root
Jesus, why is the crown so big on this page? https://hub.docker.com/r/nimlang/nim?uuid=FFEDC579-9B0F-4330-BDB1-7CF0582C6251
astral coral
olive hedge
🤑
rugged root
Huh. I've never heard of Bitnami
vocal basin
I'm a bit scared of trusting postgres to do the right thing
materialised view seems to work
but uh
rugged root
nimlang/nim:onbuild now to look up what the onbuild thing is
vocal basin
either build stage or image variant
dry jasper
the liberator
vocal basin
ww2 one or 3d printed one?
rugged root
Looks like a variant given it's for the $ docker pull nimlang/nim:onbuild thing
dry jasper
vocal basin
the lore
rugged root
What is alpine based on? Or is it its own beast?
vocal basin
alpine is based on alpine
rugged root
Should have seen that coming
rugged root
The package manager is apk it looks like
olive hedge
rugged root
Hmm
vocal basin
yeah, apk is specific to Alpine I think
peak depot
short owl
how metallicly demonic
rugged root
Neat. Going to go with the default which is Ubuntu
vocal basin
alpine, debian, fedora are the main bases I think?
rugged root
arch btw
rugged root
Wait it isn't?
rugged root
Ah okay
vocal basin
it is a base image, just not popular for containers
rugged root
I was more saying what the nim container's default is
olive hedge
short owl
flourescent tube ... izz a light saber
raw carbon
amber raptor
RHEL/SUSE derivatives I haven't seen as often either
I feel like IBM has ended that
dry jasper
rugged root
I really like that design
dry jasper
lean galleon
oracle linux (un)ironically the only good commercial distro left
dry jasper
@olive hedge check out the FGC-9 😄
rugged root
Red Hat?
olive hedge
<@233481908342882304> check out the FGC-9 😄
Nonono, I googled it 😭 On a list haha
dry jasper
"F*** gun controle"
olive hedge
I am familiar. Those are legal where I am
dry jasper
welcome on the watch list
vocal basin
oracle ends up in a weird state that just out of random shuffles in the industry some of their practices end up not entirely horrible
another example: MySQL is open-source, MariaDB isn't
rugged root
oracle ends up in a weird state that just out of random shuffles in the industry...
A happy accident
spare galleon
did discord change the font with the new ui update?
vocal basin
haven't noticed if they did
rugged root
did discord change the font with the new ui update?
I don't think so. They tweaked the rending I think
vocal basin
they do like to mess with fonts generally so who knows anymore
spare galleon
i feel like its different
vocal basin
oracle ends up in a weird state that just out of random shuffles in the industry...
also Oracle hated on cloud but Oracle Cloud ended up not entirely bad
rugged root
Da fuq? The image defaulted to arm64
short owl
counter torque @olive hedge
rugged root
Counter twerk
rugged root
Da fuq? The image defaulted to arm64
I have no idea why it would do that
dry jasper
yes
vocal basin
oh look I even remember how to spell
rugged root
Whelp guess I'll try the onbuild and see what happens
vocal basin
Russia started with non-quad drones mostly afaik
olive hedge
yeah, things have advanced quite a bit
vocal basin
quad are easier to procure, since you can just buy them instead of assembling
rugged root
Hmm, no still making/pulling arm64
short owl
quad copter power consumption - very inneficient
vocal basin
ig
rugged root
nimlang/nim
Just did docker pull nimlang/nim --platform amd64
So it should work
Or not
short owl
RF quiet so no interception @dry jasper
rugged root
Well. Shit
obsidian dragon
<@163839418623459330> `database.html`
database.pdf
short owl
ARCH , Mint , CPU lite for ARM64 ?
rugged root
database.pdf
Oh that's evil
vocal basin
print-only memory
obsidian dragon
Oh that's evil
database.vanity
vocal basin
PFM-1 is a cursed mine, one of the artillery-deployed ones
rugged root
I'm poking them on the Nim Discord server. I guess if they don't have anything it's back to just snagging a regular ubuntu build
rugged root
On that note, I have to head out
Catch you later, bud
raw carbon
Don't wanna cut the conversation lol, so just thought to say it in chat instead
raw carbon
Catch you later, bud
Aye
obsidian dragon
Don't wanna cut the conversation lol, so just thought to say it in chat instead
bye dad
astral coral
Has anyone been as far as to create a RTS in python/pygame?
rugged root
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
obsidian dragon
Iraq 2: Electric Boogaloo
new war trilogy?
rugged root
ye
rugged root
Screw it, going with a base ubuntu and going from there
vocal basin
on all 6 sides of my room no one lives most of the time
I can be noisy without causing issues
gentle flint
vocal basin
vocal basin
I clicked something in the dev tools and I can't get it back into responsive mobile mode
most of memes I have on this topic are textual and in Russian
free games are still not enough to convince me to use epic games launcher
artstation now forces signup via unreal
as I learned recently
if they're doing it ideologically then where's riscv image
rugged root
Right?
vocal basin
what did prisma do
sqlx is fun
in Rust
and not an ORM
it has almost no mapping part
sqlx uses the exact query you write
no query building
therefore no genericity over different database
s
which I'm actually fine with
postgres and sqlite very different operational characteristics
and why would you ever mysql
olive hedge
I have been pretty much exclusively using psql for years now
vocal basin
and why would you ever mysql
except being sponsored by planetscale
olive hedge
I think I have mysql hosted for applications that use it 😔
vocal basin
from my experience of mysql/mariadb, mariadb has better operational characteristics
@gentle flint write your own extensions
gentle flint
no
olive hedge
vocal basin
pgadmin's visualisations are too good to give up
this is fine
attempt at competing with Django ig
I think hata's dev is going to refuse pyproject.toml too
@gentle flint or in !ot
vocal basin
I think `hata`'s dev is going to refuse pyproject.toml too
but, tbf, that's a one-person project
@reef warren yes
way more so than setup.py or requirements.txt
pyproject.toml is still somewhat confusing
use uv
and for VSCode install `even better toml' extension
or whatever the equivalent for the IDE you're using
vocal basin
and for VSCode install \`even better toml' extension
it understands various .toml formats
npm i ... -> uv add ...
npm i && npm run ... -> uv run ...
vocal basin
yeah, we're discussing things in VC
vocal basin
is there any topic you'd be willing to discuss?
vocal basin
naturally engage in conversations don't just write messages for the sake of reaching the number
what were you going to discuss in the VC once you get verified?
ripe viper
a bit of a random question, but does anyone why does NodeJS takes >8h to compile on a 2017 macbook air?
dense path
about web deb and devops
vocal basin
C++
C++ is not fast to compile, on par with Rust
also that's kind of an old macbook
pre-M
dense path
@vocal basin are you admin ?
vocal basin
about web deb and devops
do you work on any open-source web projects?
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> are you admin ?
no
dense path
not a open source but a persnol project
whole bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7E-K99cE0
I found this wonderful Awareness Video
ripe viper
also that's kind of an old macbook
mid-2017 MacBook air with an 1.8GHZ i5 so yeah.
dense path
@vocal basin hey listen i have a quesion for u
vocal basin
what is the question?
dense path
ooo sry
woeful blaze
Hello
vocal basin
are you deploying on cloud or on premise?
whole bear
a bit of a random question, but does anyone why does NodeJS takes >8h to compile...
You are riding an ant.
Change the version of Node which is preferred on your Mac!
dense path
are you deploying on cloud or on premise?
i am a devops enginner
gentle flint
vocal basin
I'm doing some amount of devops work too, and nothing of it is directly cloud-related
ripe viper
You are riding an ant.
Change the version of Node which is preferred on your Mac...
thank you!
dense path
i do full stack but i just come here for meet telented person
gentle flint
whole bear
thank you!
Mention Not!
arctic quiver
I have a data frame with categorical values that I converted using pd.get_dummies, is there a way to return the data frame with the updated dummy values without creating two extra columns (True/False) ? The extra columns are causing a headache trying to model... TIA
vocal basin
I do use some "cloud-native"-adjacent/"serverless"-related techniques/technologies but I don't apply them to actual cloud
vocal basin
i do full stack but i just come here for meet telented person
what's full-stack in your definition?
just some server-side code or comprehensive implementation of everything on the server?
woeful blaze
can anyone hear me?
primal shadow
I have heard coffee is bad
It's why I stopped drinking it before leaving for work
less stressful commute
ripe viper
can anyone hear me?
no
whole bear
@dry jasper Coffee gives you winngs!!
primal shadow
Leonardo DiCaprio will get there
ripe viper
<@381154715293188106> Coffee gives you winngs!!
wasn't that redbull's job?
spare spear
gentle flint
can anyone hear me?
I can't
vocal basin
the second circle is annoyingly empty
vocal basin
fraktur?
peak depot
Jumala = God
whole bear
wasn't that redbull's job?
rebull pays me to promote
vocal basin
!e
print("\N{mathematical bold fraktur capital a}")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
𝕬
It looks like a holy unholy molly
vocal basin
pretend f was never there
ripe viper
!e
```py
print("\N{mathematical bold fraktur capital a}")
```
that... is very cursed...
supple cove
phonemes, oh god my first love, phonemes
Let's order audio samples by pronunciation assessment score
Who's in the house?
gentle flint
whole bear
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s
That's integration
vocal basin
!e
print("\N{Latin Small Letter Long S}")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
ſ
woeful blaze
How is everyone doing today?
whole bear
How is everyone doing today?
Not so bad, not so good!
woeful blaze
I feel you
whole bear
I feel you
I think I might be banned
primal shadow
not dead yet
whole bear
But I like to use this gif
gentle flint
ripe viper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s
𝑓
woeful blaze
?
gentle flint
Looks ugly to me!
used all over europe for centuries
dry jasper
vocal basin
@supple cove I think it's better to express that thought in writing
instead of derailing the conversation
keen meadow
Hey, I just finished a Python course (no frameworks) and want to practice before moving on. Any good project ideas to sharpen my skills?
vocal basin
<@829609123548758036> I think it's better to express that thought in writing
whether that writing is teletyped, cursive or whatever else, that's a separate topic
gentle flint
woeful blaze
Is it wrong to want to yell at my headphones for not working
whole bear
My singnature is in cursive
vocal basin
!stream 381154715293188106
peak depot
Mine too
wise cargoBOT
✅ @dry jasper can now stream until <t:1743100321:f>.
whole bear
as I'm lazy
gentle flint
Is it wrong to want to yell at my headphones for not working
not as long as they're not working
supple cove
let's just make a score. Who would ever do anything that could possibly alter the maximal profits?
vocal basin
@dry jasper did you know the cursive r is supposed to be like cursive ч?
supple cove
What if the best outcome is based on minimal sustainable profits?
vocal basin
that seems to be the prevailing option because it's quicker
supple cove
Mine is really super ultra ugly, but GPT-4oImageCoverage is (will be) so very kind
vocal basin
@peak depot I think Russian schools still have mandatory cursive
supple cove
OMG we forgot to compromize the 1992 Unicode Working Group
ripe viper
<@381154715293188106> did you know the cursive r is supposed to be like cursive ...
so 𝚛?
supple cove
The Department of Education’s What Works Clearinghouse was wiped out by the first round of DOGE cuts to the Institute for Educational Sciences, cancelling five WWC contracts -- more than any other program, office, or project. Stanford’s SCALE (Systems Change Advancing Learning and Equity) Initiative learning accelerator has stepped forward with a Generative AI for Education Research Study Repository: https://scale.stanford.edu/genai/repository which replaces some of the WWC functions in that narrow sub-field.
whole bear
Mention not, my autograph is auspicious
woeful blaze
not as long as they're not working
They're $16 but still that's a lot to pay for headphones
ripe viper
<@425552190283972608> I think Russian schools still have mandatory cursive
the first 5 classes don't care, force it after 7-8 grade.
vocal basin
the first 5 classes don't care, force it after 7-8 grade.
inverse in my experience
gentle flint
the word is "aanbestedingsregister" because I couldn't think of an English word with sr
dry jasper
primal shadow
lol
whole bear
Damn
primal shadow
this is what has come here
we had a lovely train on a track
Damn, that's a lot more epic than I expected
It was a happy time for a while
vocal basin
the previous person who was doing this kind of overly abstract detached from reality talk is currently in a permanent voice ban
I wonder how this case will go
dry jasper
WWE
whole bear
primal shadow
What is even happening anymore
There was such a fun chat, now one person is talking about Elon
well, no one is talking
supple cove
audio and video, but the one people think is more important is actually less important
whole bear
Dude, I like you are into those stuff
primal shadow
whole bear
But make sure to involve the audience as well
vocal basin
sorry that I cannot steer the conversation towards coherence, because text
whole bear
@supple cove Could you explain again?
primal shadow
supple cove
Imagine you had 2^230 monkeys to expend on a writing task. How would you organize them?
ripe viper
Because it is larger than 2^227.2525
vocal basin
!e
print((2 ^ 229) > (2 ^ 230))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
Given that 2^230 is an incomprehensibly large number (~10^68), I'd structure them in tiers:
1) Supervisory Monkeys: A select fraction (say, 2^200) would oversee efficiency and quality control.
2) Editing Monkey: Another segment(~2^180) would proofread, ensuring coherence.
3) Writing Monkey: The vast majority(~2^229) would generate content nonstop.
Corrected code using the exponentiation operator (**)
print((2 ** 229) > (2 ** 230))
print((2 ** 229) > (2 ** 230))
vocal basin
yeah, it was a joke
also please no LLMs without disclosure
and use ``` for code blocks
!code
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
and use \`\`\` for code blocks
my bad
supple cove
I have granted any audience CC0 rights to most of my work? Could I even disclose LLMs if I wanted to?
ripe viper
and use \`\`\` for code blocks
and also `` for code objects and etc.
vocal basin
I have granted any audience CC0 rights to most of my work? Could I even disclose...
I was saying what I said because the code you pasted looks very LLM-generated
and we have rule 10
!rule 10
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
if you actually get code from an LLM, make sure to include that fact as part of the message or surrounding context
supple cove
```hey look I'm trying to quote code:
print(2/3)```py
print(2 / 3)
```
supple cove
[what do I put here?]```I so much can pretend-respond to that like an LLM lmao
because I actually know the topic of Church's computational model and Turing's more modern approach
supple cove
I'm not a bot. I'm a flesh-and-blood human trying to reach out to you to create an understanding about preserving our species.
vocal basin
yeah, sure, my claim was only about the code sample
supple cove
So you're saying you think I'm a bot?
supple cove
oh good lol omg <<<hugss<<<333333
vocal basin
people rarely write comments like that in real code
supple cove
Because the audioence is too wide
vocal basin
people rarely write comments like that in real code
especially when they want to explain something in a conversation rather than a code file
supple cove
audience*
ripe viper
Because the audioence is too wide
yes, but actualy no.
whole bear
Stop yapping
vocal basin
I'd expect even advanced LLMs today understand Markdown well enough that they won't use that comment style if you prompt correctly
ripe viper
# Stop yapping
IS THAT GEN Z SLANG I SEE?
vocal basin
Here I thought it was dead slang
history repeats
ripe viper
oh.
supple cove
try:
print(1/0)
except Exception as e:
print(f"Error error: {e}\n", file=stderr)
primal shadow
meh
ripe viper
never knew, my bad.
primal shadow
Bringing back the past is not making anew
whole bear
try:
print(1/0)
except Exception as e:
print(f"Error error: {e}\n", file=stderr)
!e
from sys import stderr
try:
print(1/0)
except Exception as e:
print(f"Error error: {e}\n", file=stderr)
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Error error: division by zero
[div0/!
whole bear
Alisa Feistel is Smart and Hot
vocal basin
actually you should really avoid just turning an exception into a string
because often what you get is ""
whole bear
👀
vocal basin
include type(e).__name__