voice-chat-text-0

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-vladimir-putin-schmunzel-lach-lächel-gif-11862021

I didn't knew this bald man is fav dish for you!

[stuck furnace]

You melt the cheese on the little scoops

And have it with potatoes

Cya opal

[stuck furnace]

Yeah that's parmigiano, but also delicious

[vocal basin]

oh wait new UI allows to control volume of users without opening the full context menu

or was it there before

[stuck furnace]

The secret is eggs

[vocal basin]

this whole thing looks so much like a scam lmao

[stuck furnace]

Now they're attacking the journalist

[vocal basin]

extension successfully reported 🚀

[viscid merlin]

Gys anyone help me to intregrate api with facefusion

[astral coral]

@astral coral @rugged root @crystal fox @haughty pier THE MISTER MEN O.O

dibs on Mr. Tickle

[viscid merlin]

[primal shadow]

Yea, not a fan of the states

"you can always move"

hahaha

spoken by somoene with some real privilege

[vocal basin]

-- Ben Shapiro

[primal shadow]

Most of us can't just up and move

responsibilities

[primal shadow]

Fireplaces are horrible no good very bad things

❤️ the open plan

But the fireplace is such a waste of space

[stuck furnace]

Not sure how I feel about the rock wall 🤔

[primal shadow]

I disagree

open is more appealing

the wall

for the TV

normally

and the sofa in the middle of hte room facing hte TV

exactly how it's done

wit hthe size of that room, looks like you could go with a sectional

Why would you want that?

I ❤️ moving my house around

my dining and living room have swapped rooms several times now

Might be moving them again soon

[rugged root]

Staying in town?

[vocal basin]

2020 variant = with masks and social distancing?

[vocal basin]

@rugged root I prefer this interpretation

[primal shadow]

Baseball with a flatter stick

[vocal basin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapta_(game)

[primal shadow]

Baseballs are soft/

[rugged root]

This makes Lapta look fun

Like tennis but bats

[stuck furnace]

Like everything, we invented it and now we're the worst at it

[vocal basin]

@rugged root "do not use kangaroos during the game (please)" type of rules?

[vocal basin]

I have no idea how it's actually played

[rugged root]

That's quitter talk

[stuck furnace]

Do you ever watch darts?

[molten pewter]

I think the emphasis on inventing things is a bad cultural trend, maintenance is more important than invention.

[stuck furnace]

Discount lobotomy

[stuck furnace]

Maybe they only have a zoom lens 🤷‍♂️

[rugged root]

Or they sneeze when they took the pic

[vocal basin]

seven times in Russian

instead of twice

[rugged root]

I don't like wood floors

I always worry I'm going to get a splinter right through the foot

[stuck furnace]

Enjoy your soup

[crystal fox]

when i finally eat it i will

it is not for eating today.

it's going in the freezer for the future.

[stuck furnace]

Oh, advance soup, nice

[crystal fox]

today i am eating like 12 chicken nuggets.

[stuck furnace]

Excellent choice

[vocal basin]

right click yourself

then change nickname

* edit per-server profile

used to be separate I think

[rugged root]

But still, faster for Hemlock to fix

Because... yes

[crystal fox]

sriracha and last dab mayo as a dippy sauce.

my butt hole is gonna love me.

[vocal basin]

@molten pewter Айхо -- Хтонь
suck in my head continuously

[vocal basin]

this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7IfWS1WiXg

[stuck furnace]

I feel like as long as they're well maintained it's not that common to get splinters from them

[rugged root]

Still this latent fear

I guess it's an excuse to wear slippers

[primal shadow]

Cat went out in a storm?

https://tenor.com/beeh0.gif

WAP?

[peak depot]

yes

[stuck furnace]

How's everyone doing today?

[peak depot]

https://youtu.be/5MS_Fczs_98?si=CeJqsi3elcqeVCEI

[stuck furnace]

I feel like we've (UK) actually got a pretty decent entry this year

[peak depot]

Sweden has the best!

https://tenor.com/view/bara-bada-bastu-kaj-kaj-sauna-gif-7128029960041048937

[stuck furnace]

I shall check it out 👀

[peak depot]

https://youtu.be/Kg3QoTpnqyw?si=8He-gtKatgN1EmRc

[vocal basin]

this one has great lyrics but it too sure is a case of "you really won't be able to listen to it the same way after learning what they mean"

[stuck furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZyqwOOmETI

[vocal basin]

I still think "Trump Unsure What Department He Has To Cut To Make JD Vance Go Away" is one of the funniest Onion titles

[rugged root]

Oh that's gooooood

The Onion is still going strong

[stuck furnace]

The cat owned the house?

Yeah living with 12 cats doesn't sound great

Ahh ok

[stuck furnace]

Where's the cameraman? 👀

Do you reckon there are like, fake houses on sites like Zillow?

[primal shadow]

behind the camera I'd hope

[vocal basin]

@rugged root because of sqlx, I'm not very often using this:

let (keys, values) = map.into_iter().collect();

now that tuples have FromIterator support

[rugged root]

Is that new?

[vocal basin]

relatively new I think

I did something horrible and the postgres died

I'm achieving truly amazing query times

a whole two seconds

[peak depot]

Fury, it´s Finnish and sorry I forgot that I had Discord call on

[molten pewter]

We knew you were Finished with us... don't worry we won't take offense.

[stuck furnace]

What's everyone working on currently? 👀

[molten pewter]

Taxes

[vocal basin]

SQL crimes

so far only 15 tables

not that many

[stuck furnace]

ic

For work?

[vocal basin]

yes

[molten pewter]

Turbo Tax for Kids! https://youtu.be/A0cCPONLiTI?si=UyLqRLVM16Z_xTzr&t=213

[vocal basin]

@molten pewter "I'm configurin' it"

[short owl]

I think I can read into that...

[molten pewter]

https://trademarks.justia.com/782/57/i-m-lovin-78257203.html

[short owl]

Im lugging , im lubbing , is available

so Fast and Furious is Asian ? do they get a kickback ? @molten pewter

street ricing ?

[primal shadow]

Guh-Nome? I always thought the g was silent in gnome.

I always thought it was a racist thing

since it was from the japanese car scene

What?

rice

asia

In Japan they eat rice

so to be racist

Americans made fun of them

by calling them "rice burners"

just good old American Hate

doesn't need any logic

just hatred

Not all Japanese individuals eat rice

it was meant as an insult

let's get into the etymology of the n word then

origin is black

but see how much meaning can be shoved into a word when there's a lot of hate in the making?

It could, but that's not why it was named what it was named

It's not coming from the car culture

It's coming from good old fashioned hate

applied to car culture

where the hate continued

until some point it became a term for tuning

but the origin remains

[vocal basin]

@molten pewter it sounds like SBF reference

[primal shadow]

What?

White on the inside?

WHo is white inside?

I thought we're mostly all red inside

What the fuck is "banana" as an insult?

I am so confused

@molten pewter look at the origin

It is

100%

[vocal basin]

same

[primal shadow]

What?

I always thought that was half white

never seen it that way

Oreo I always heard as another term for mixed

So speaking correctly or incorrectly = oreo?

That's a tough one

[vocal basin]

I'd avoid using "properly" in this context

[primal shadow]

overlay

disable

@peak depot

[vocal basin]

I'd never trust ChatGPT on that

just no

don't

[primal shadow]

lol

asking GPT for English comprehension

bahahahaha

fed by the trolls of reddit

To determine racism, sure, ask the AI

bahahahahahahahaha

[vocal basin]

reddit? you're too positive

more like 4chan

[primal shadow]

for real

[vocal basin]

I wouldn't consider eternal lateral movement improvement

so far from synonym

[rugged root]

"NixOS: It's a distro"

[primal shadow]

"Comparably, Alaskan slang for a sled dog is "fish burner," as in a beast of burden that runs on fish."

[rugged root]

"NixOS: Configure it there, use it anywhere"

"NixOS: At least it's not Gentoo"

[primal shadow]

"NixOS: It'll Consume You"

[rugged root]

"NixOS: Configure once, replicate forever"

[primal shadow]

"NixOS: Because Ubuntu is Too Easy"

[rugged root]

"NixOS: Because different is better"

[primal shadow]

It's hard when you rename a thing and forget?

Does NixOS prevent that?

[vocal basin]

write once fail to compile everywhere

[rugged root]

"NixOS: Because fuck you, that's why"

[primal shadow]

you said modify a file and forget

[rugged root]

Except that you modify your config file like

All the time

"NixOS: A Single Source of Truth"

[primal shadow]

Up the history

I'm just confused what settings I modify

that i Need to remmeber

...

the term is used because it was a racist term

that kept following asian individuals

and their culture

by white people

that's where it comes from

[rugged root]

Don't you rice cauliflower?

[primal shadow]

that's why it's what it is

[rugged root]

Or something like that

[primal shadow]

Rice enhances a dish? that is an odd way to look at it

Truffle oil, maybe

caviar? Sounds fancy

but applying some rice?

[stuck furnace]

Bacon egg fried rice sounds nice though 👀

[primal shadow]

I can buy tens of pounts of rice for dollars

[rugged root]

"NixOS: It's the rice of Linux"

[primal shadow]

NO

it odesn'

it comes from the asians eating rice

straight up

[haughty pier]

yeah, kinda does

[primal shadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

have a read

very short

very informative

[rugged root]

"NixOS: Flakes That Don't Flake On You"

[primal shadow]

Yes, it is 100% racist and offensive

that is the origin

IDK about that

[rugged root]

"NixOS: It's not racist"

[primal shadow]

humanity won't last millions of years at this rate

[vocal basin]

people hating people? PHP?

[primal shadow]

That's my life

PHP 😦

[vocal basin]

what do we count as the beginning of humanity?

[primal shadow]

But since PHP is recursive...

[vocal basin]

PHP Hates Programmers

[rugged root]

The torment never ends?

[primal shadow]

It's People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People Hating People

Since PHP stands for PHP Hypertext Proprocessor

[rugged root]

I used to have neurons

[stuck furnace]

People hate php

[vocal basin]

I'm going to explode postgres again with the amount of UNNESTing I'm doing

[rugged root]

What was that Mitch Hedberg bit... "I used to do drugs. I mean I still do, but I used to, too"

Died too soon

[stuck furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/stairs-temporary-escalator-mitch-hedberg-out-of-order-gif-15957019

[haughty pier]

do you think it was the drugs?

[rugged root]

Such a good bit.

[rugged root]

I don't remember. I think it was an OD

[vocal basin]

nvm I

have realised I can cross join

[stuck furnace]

Why're you looking to move? 👀

[rugged root]

Mom's coming back to Missouri. We're going to be moving in with her so she can help take care of Joi.

So I'm trying to find a decent rental place for us

[stuck furnace]

Oh right

[primal shadow]

PHP Hates People Hate PHP Hates People Hate PHP

https://tenor.com/t4Tv.gif

[rugged root]

Yo prop

[short owl]

howsy doody

[vocal basin]

no f___ing way it just compiled

[short owl]

howdy doody

[vocal basin]

did I just learn SQL

so great that sqlx just understands most of SQL without having to run anything

since it just asks the database to do it anyway

[rugged root]

How do you mean?

Ah gotcha

[vocal basin]

it prepares the statements at compile time

preparing a statement requires the db to check its correctness

[rugged root]

Oh right right

[vocal basin]

and at runtime too

[rugged root]

That still confuses me how it can do it at compile time and why that would be faster

[short owl]

I knew a old school teacher who did back ground scenes in westerns ( he was grizzled old fart ) , made $300 a day , sitting , reading , eating buffet @rugged root

[rugged root]

Because it's still tossing the query to the db, right?

[vocal basin]

it's not faster

it does nothing for performance

it's only for type inference

and basic sanity checks

[rugged root]

I could swear I was talking to someone about this yesterday

My brain not work so good right now

[vocal basin]

preparing a statement is a runtime thing

not compile time

[rugged root]

Yeah that's what I thought would be the case

[vocal basin]

sqlx does a bit of runtime stuff during compile time, since it actually connects to the DB

there's a way to prepare statically cached information about the DB

[short owl]

look for local movie productions - they always need normal looking hoomans for background scenes @rugged root

[vocal basin]

for CI

but

why would I bother

I can just start the whole postgres in CI

on each build

[short owl]

not sure how this started but it did

[rugged root]

I can't remember if it was Griff or ChrisJL I was talking to about this

[haughty pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496083567848456217/1352012573909713030/1741851188922.png?ex=67e50914&is=67e3b794&hm=6a759bb516a3124f219f11e505e5aedc5dbaac80959a741d6520cef1dfdb4daf&

[rugged root]

Entirely possible it was someone else

[short owl]

$75 bonus if you say 1 word on screen , its crazy @rugged root

[vocal basin]

I have it saved as tiangolo.png

slightly compressed and then upscaled

you can still tell it's him from the emojis

[short owl]

Calgary looks like LA , but no garbage on the streets , so its easy to film here @rugged root

eye strain = glasses

arent hooman eyes the size of grapes ? @peak depot

[rugged root]

Bit bigger

[stuck furnace]

I don't think I could do laser eye surgery. It looks horrific

[rugged root]

I'd get it if it put lasers in my eyes

[short owl]

Fricken Lazeers

Sharks then Hemmy

[rugged root]

I need to watch those again

[short owl]

10 million little jokes hidden in those Austin Powers

[molten pewter]

Айхо - Хтонь

[vocal basin]

this one https://youtu.be/Z7IfWS1WiXg

I posted

Aikho -- Chtonic

[molten pewter]

This is the first time, and I've seen
This is the first time I have seen a woman in a park who was
You can also find other places in the world
A pokemon — a pokemon
Zdorov

[rugged root]

https://github.com/hakatashi/esolang-box

[vocal basin]

what is that even a translation of

[vocal basin]

well, clearly not of this song

[short owl]

wa wa wa wobots

[rugged root]

Are there any Docker containers that have a GUI?

[vocal basin]

I'm so confused

[wise cargo]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[vocal basin]

did you translate the autogenerated transcription??

[haughty pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oqAU5VxFWs

[molten pewter]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/CLWQ

[vocal basin]

google translate:
https://gist.github.com/afeistel/6c282811aae7abd24568c4ba0bedca40

[haughty pier]

🎶

[rugged root]

https://esolangs.org/wiki/Evil

[rugged root]

That is a really good song for sure

[haughty pier]

https://tenor.com/view/singing-band-rock-band-excited-gif-16851349

🔥

[short owl]

train your cats - cute vids @peak depot

[vocal basin]

also, yes, I don't know how to spell it in English

apparently I missed an h

chth

not cht

[haughty pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5PtyrewSs

[primal shadow]

work

boss is actively talking

[vocal basin]

I'll attempt fixing Google's translation issues but it's a somewhat linguistically difficult task

[short owl]

Milien = Million @peak depot

[primal shadow]

I don't think he's aware I discord.

[vocal basin]

this is such a nightmare to translate

like English literally does not have the morphological capabilities for that

[primal shadow]

It did get quiet

[vocal basin]

Google translated two different words, both as "dance"

yet they're very non-same originally

[stuck furnace]

Restroom I think 😄

How's your course going @peak depot?

[primal shadow]

I cannot stand most of the youtubers my kids watch

SO MUCH YELLING

Just fuckin talk, there's no one else there

You're talking into a mic

[short owl]

just listen to boring UFO stuff

pass out

[stuck furnace]

I watch lecture videos sometimes to fall asleep

[vocal basin]

Theo is a bit calmer but also somewhat of a jerk

[peak depot]

good! have finished many

[stuck furnace]

Nice, do you have to use R much, or mostly Python?

I'm currently learning R for a stats course I'm taking.

[rugged root]

Still trying to get my head around docker containers. Or at least dev containers

[primal shadow]

Are you hunting?

[stuck furnace]

Like, conceptually, or how to use them?

[primal shadow]

with exploding arrows/

[vocal basin]

you really shouldn't start with dev containers

[rugged root]

The latter

[rugged root]

The only reason I am is because of how much of a fuss it is to get stuff to compile on the work machine

[vocal basin]

you only get the "force through learning the hard way" but that's a gamble

[rugged root]

Keep raising flags as if what I'm doing is a trojan

So it's easier (in theory) to just do this

[stuck furnace]

Ah right

[vocal basin]

are you pyinstallering?

including auto-py-to-exe

or something else

[rugged root]

That doesn't cause an issue. This is me doing my language hopping

Wanting to give ReasonML another shot. Also probably easier to just toss my Nim stuff in a dc as well

[vocal basin]

I'm running VLC inside a container for reasons

idk if that works on Windows

[rugged root]

That was purely out of curiosity

[primal shadow]

lol

LOVE how they test the mods

[rugged root]

!tvmute 1344923060935065660 1d Do not intentionally be disruptive

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @whole bear until <t:1743097260:f> (1 day).

[primal shadow]

ooh, and immediately leave

[whole bear]

Hi

[primal shadow]

Hello

[vocal basin]

it kicks I think

[haughty pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh68O_LS_XM

[vocal basin]

otherwise doesn't get muted immediately

[short owl]

mmm VLC lots of streaming functions

[vocal basin]

reasons being codecs are non-existent on openSUSE

[rugged root]

The mute kicks them off

[whole bear]

Probably my wifi is terrible and my voice came weirdly

[vocal basin]

lying doesn't help your case

[whole bear]

Bruh

[golden sonnet]

hii👋

[vocal basin]

if you do have genuine concerns about mic quality, you can check that outside Discord or in the settings

[whole bear]

Hello

[vocal basin]

*insert that one Bryan Cantrill clip*

[whole bear]

Ok

[whole bear]

How are you

[rugged root]

https://hub.docker.com/r/ocaml/opam

[golden sonnet]

am good thanks
how are things with you?

[whole bear]

Good

[vocal basin]

@rugged root idk if you remember which one I'm referring to

[rugged root]

That's the one I'll be messing with. However I don't know if you can make any container a dev-container or if it's just specific ones

[rugged root]

Sounds familiar

[vocal basin]

I should show it to kat lol

[rugged root]

100%

I don't think I'll ever let go of calling everyone dude

I just can't

Let me have this one thing

[golden sonnet]

dude

[whole bear]

bra how you doing today?

[golden sonnet]

ah don't tempt me

[rugged root]

Can you make any container a dev-container?

[vocal basin]

no

[rugged root]

Daaaaaamn it

[whole bear]

Ain't it weird to call a teenager dude?
I mean you are definitely at the age to be the dad of those teen!

[vocal basin]

you generally need sh to be available inside

[rugged root]

Better than bruh or bro or brah

[whole bear]

Call'em son!

[rugged root]

In this case it does have it

[golden sonnet]

i call everyone children
or my child

[vocal basin]

if you can arbitrary things into it, then you can install an IDE backend into it

generally

but

for example, VSCode has extra requirements

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bEjeg.gif

[whole bear]

I wish I would have same job as Hemlock, working and having convo with people on discord.
Earning 6 figure each year

What a life

[haughty pier]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-dude-green-acres-gif-5668879

[whole bear]

in america

[vocal basin]

in short:
if you can "attach to this container" in VSCode without crashing, then it's probably fine

that is not universally the case

[gentle flint]

what makes you think hemlock earns 6 figures

[rugged root]

Right

Yeah I don't make anywhere near 6 figs

[vocal basin]

$1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1

[haughty pier]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-marketing-billionaire-online-marketer-entrepreneur-laptop-lifestyle-gif-16932364

[rugged root]

I mean unless we're talking about sig figs

[whole bear]

He is experienced, he deserve 6 figure

[rugged root]

Deserve is a strong word

[gentle flint]

for it tech support?

[peak depot]

plome, join vc

[gentle flint]

optimistic

[whole bear]

Why not?

[vocal basin]

being-on-discord-at-work tax

[golden sonnet]

can i scam you into crypto?

[gentle flint]

why yes?
nobody who does it tech support for a small company gets 6 figures

[golden sonnet]

that's the point
most people are older than me

[whole bear]

He can get 6 figure yearly

How would he survive if he making less than 6 figure?

Average income in US is 80K

[haughty pier]

Learn NixOS

make millions

[golden sonnet]

ugh i hate the crypto scammers
worst kind of scammers

[vocal basin]

millions of millions of bytes worth of GCing weekly

[rugged root]

Depends on state and city as well

[gentle flint]

average it tech salary in usa is 60K according to talent.com
he'd have to make 1½ times the average, and small companies often pay below average

[rugged root]

The 80K average also factors in people who make a metric fuckton more, skewing the value

Median is a better measure

[whole bear]

Half-Approved

[whole bear]

But he has worked over a decade

@rugged root You should be paid more!

[gentle flint]

it techs don't get paid much more for having worked for a decade

it's not a job with a significant salary scale

you get paid more when you switch jobs

[whole bear]

In that case median of India would be 600$

[primal shadow]

That's terrible BTW

avoiding salary discussion

only protects the employer

fucks the employees

[vocal basin]

the only thing I know about my salary is that the management think I'm underpaid

[whole bear]

I can

[gentle flint]

and what do you think

[vocal basin]

I'm not think I'm fuwawa

[primal shadow]

In the US it's even more taboo to talk about income

but that's because the US lvoes to fuck labor even harder

[rugged root]

As is their way

[short owl]

white = death in asia

[primal shadow]

probably becuase white people bring the death

whereas in western culture, white is clean and ogod

[gentle flint]

I said what do you think, not are you think

[primal shadow]

whitelist/blacklist

etc

[whole bear]

How?

[vocal basin]

I'm paid way higher than the average for someone who's formally a junior developer

[rugged root]

I think I just don't know enough about docker to make a custom one to work with all this crap

[whole bear]

You are special!

[rugged root]

-sighs-

[vocal basin]

so it's literally just a situation of the company still having to fit into some bureaucratic norms of "years of experience formally matter"

they just matter less for me

(as in years of employment)

[rugged root]

Although looking at it... There are just base Alpine and other options

[short owl]

is docker , your Rubik's cube OR you need it for progress somewhere ? @rugged root

[whole bear]

Hemlock deserve raise!

https://tenor.com/view/prerich-prerichcoin-pre-rich-pre-rich-poor-gif-6819563625714692941

[vocal basin]

also I accidentally typed exploiment and I think that's a funny word

[rugged root]

Little bit of both

[vocal basin]

"pre-rich" is this how politicians call poor

[whole bear]

Imagine working for decade or 2 and getting average pay.
It's like Joke!

[primal shadow]

Hahha

middle class

what a funny you made

there's the masters and the poors

welcome to amerca

[vocal basin]

is middle class the thing when you nest classes three layers deep

[whole bear]

If the same individual worked for himself for decade or 2, he would have made far more than his expectation

[vocal basin]

@rugged root could be base image

for something else

[whole bear]

I hope python discord pays hemlock!
He is good admin!

https://tenor.com/view/faint-omg-pass-out-fall-elmo-gif-8540902822064990640

[vocal basin]

funny to know that 100% of code that inserts more than one row at a time via SQL in the whole company is written by me

"just use loops 🚀"

loops are the way to do it in SQLite

but not postgres

[rugged root]

Yeah, I'll see if grabbing a basic debian dev-container fits my needs

[short owl]

Im getting crazy ideas about bolting a 55' 4K to a wall ...............

[rugged root]

SCIENCE

[whole bear]

I hope it would fit your need!

[rugged root]

Ditto

Which one's the newer one? Bookworm?

Or Bullseye

[vocal basin]

in postgres/mysql you get three choices: unnest (arrays), concatenate the hell out of a statement and weird multi-value-input magic

option two does not allow prepared statements

[golden sonnet]

should be bookworm
untill debian 13 gets released

[rugged root]

Cheers

Oh sick, okay this might be perfect. It's letting me go through a checklist of things to add

[stuck furnace]

So in a dev container, it essentially has language tooling, LSP servers, and so on? I haven't really used them

[whole bear]

If Hemlock get a dollar for each help in Python discord.
He would be millionaire

Same for OpalMist

[vocal basin]

toolchain inside the container, yes

[short owl]

Deep Seek---> docker , to contain it from getting loose ????? @rugged root

[whole bear]

And Alisa

[vocal basin]

language server may be outside with some hooks into the container

[rugged root]

I already use SimTheory for that

[vocal basin]

VCCode does some weird things with its JS/TS support

[rugged root]

Why are there 4. I'm confused

[short owl]

scribble , scribble making notes

[rugged root]

I mean if it's debian it should come with apt, right?

[vocal basin]

million roubles is the maximum I can take with me if I ever go abroad because of recent laws

almost there at that limit

[golden sonnet]

apt-get is just what lies under apt (i think)
not sure about the othr three

[short owl]

mmmm , crypto ????? @vocal basin

[vocal basin]

apt is for humans
apt-get is for scripts

[rugged root]

Just weird that these are listed under extras

[whole bear]

You can tricky the law.
Buy stock worth more than million ruble or USDT.

[whole bear]

Use as you like!

[vocal basin]

yeah, sure, buying Russian stock is great for use abroad

[whole bear]

How about USDT?

[vocal basin]

never use apt in scripts

[stuck furnace]

apt shouts at you if you pipe its output 😢

[rugged root]

til

[vocal basin]

never put more than one apt install command in the examples

if you want the example to work, always include apt-get update and -y in apt-get install -y

Docker's installation is horrible for missing -y

and using sudo

so you have to first copy the example, fix it, and then run

if you expect users to copy and run commands one by one from a single ``` block, you're just wrong

if they require interactivity, split them across blocks

[rugged root]

Back later

[vocal basin]

sudo does, apt does, apt-get install without -y does

[stuck furnace]

Cya

[vocal basin]

ugh I'm getting microsoft scam rewards ads again

lmao

[golden sonnet]

i have no idea what vibe coders do

[vocal basin]

neither vibe nor code

it's like Holy Roman Empire

not Holy not Roman not Empire

[whole bear]

https://youtu.be/9OmwI4yblqQ?si=P8n2DwW1Ry-bjUqw

I found this funny video

[peak depot]

@rugged root how old is this 👆

[whole bear]

13 to 14

years old

[peak depot]

so cute!!

then life happened...

[whole bear]

wdym?

[peak depot]

trauma and life..

[whole bear]

Hmm

[upbeat bobcat]

Hey!

[whole bear]

Doesn't matter age voice never changes

manner may change

[upbeat bobcat]

I don't like the new ui old one was way better

[vocal basin]

I somehow managed to get my PTSD triggered by how questionably an owner of some server handled interacting with other people;
like there isn't anything strictly wrong (yes, that's a lie, I'm just being too nice to them) but I'm not going back there anyway

[whole bear]

https://youtu.be/l1h46Ak7e9o?si=X6lUsgDLZNsQ9gjt

Life is trauma but yet it's beautiful.
this song explains in best manner!

[primal shadow]

hwat?

Have you ever been in the same room as a child, an adult, and an elderly individual? The voice changes quite a bit as we age

[whole bear]

Maybe but the everyone has some distinction which remains

[upper basin]

Got this for a repo I cloned via terminal ssh.

This is a first for me.

[vocal basin]

is the ssh-agent running?

does it work via the CLI?

[upper basin]

Let's see...

[vocal basin]

do you have more than one SSH key?

[upper basin]

Seems like via CLI works.

[upper basin]

I don't think so.

[whole bear]

Click open options.
I'm curios to know what it mean!

[upper basin]

Let me check.

[vocal basin]

the UI might be misconfigured

[upper basin]

It's just GitHub Desktop options.

[whole bear]

Okay

[upper basin]

AF I only have the key I just generated to do the clone.

And via CLI it got pushed to the repo.

[whole bear]

You can push?

[upper basin]

Via CLI yeah.

[whole bear]

But you can't clone?

[upper basin]

No, I can clone as well.

[whole bear]

So what is issue?

[upper basin]

I can't push through GitHub Desktop.

GitHub Desktop gives the error I sent above.

[whole bear]

Okay

I think, I been through same issue

[upper basin]

It's only for the repo I cloned via ssh.

I checked my other repo, it works fine.

I followed what git itself suggests, maybe I missed sth as usual.

[whole bear]

Check repo permission on your github make sure you have write access.

[upper basin]

It's fine, I'll work on that tomorrow. I just wanted to push so Kryz could see the code in the meantime.

[upper basin]

It has read/write.

I'm gonna go sleep. It's late here. I'm messing my sleep schedule again.

[whole bear]

Hmm

[upper basin]

Thanks AF.

[whole bear]

Bye

Good Night!

[vocal basin]

VSCode Git support is good enough for most common cases

and rebasing/whatever is good enough via the CLI

there is some extension for VSCode that shows the history

in, like, easy-to-comprehend way

but I don't work on the projects that are that complicated

[primal shadow]

Even life will change your voice, smoking, training, etc.

Helium, Sulfur Hexafluoride

[woeful blaze]

Hello

[primal shadow]

hi

[woeful blaze]

How are you doing today?

[primal shadow]

Another fine day

[earnest lodge]

hi @somber heath

i can hear you

let me get a mic

[vocal basin]

I'm still working on database stuffs

seemingly functioning

I think <1ms is okay query time

if someone wants to repeat the request I'm writing, they probably just need to increase the limit/adjust filters instead

also I think it's CPU time

not IO

it was around 2000ms for worst cases before

which is not okay when CPU-bound

for fetching 100 rows especially so

postgres was not able to figure out things magically enough so I had to properly design the query

"properly design" involving a few weird hacks

it would be funny to try ask AI to solve something similar but I actually can't be bothered

it doesn't even interest me as a toy anymore

subscription-based, obviously

all in the cloud

okay I've tested with 100_000 rows, I need to do with 1_000_000 then obviously

postgres might shutdown completely this time

it's not feeling well already

[woeful blaze]

@spare galleon how are you?

[spare galleon]

im good and you

[woeful blaze]

good got diffrent headset not like the $5 set i got

@wind raptor how are you?

good got more expensive headphones?

???

the usa is never going to gets its (explotixe here) together

[woeful blaze]

$16 of of python

im trying to get it to work!!!

could i share what i made for dessert?

[wind raptor]

Sure

[inner hill]

hi

[spare galleon]

https://g.echovrce.com/player/statistics?discord_id=689245143609508025&guild_id=779349159852769310

[inner hill]

Name of it

[woeful blaze]

My new headphones

[woeful blaze]

hidden rose

[wind raptor]

That looks good!

[woeful blaze]

It's a neopolitan

[wind raptor]

Did you make it?

[woeful blaze]

Yes

Can you guess what it's filled with?

[wind raptor]

ice cream

[primal shadow]

headphones

circuits

[woeful blaze]

I'm on my computer and nothing's going through the headset so whenever you're saying I cannot hear in the slightest

[primal shadow]

3

Just what's below this

[woeful blaze]

I know the headphones should be giving me a sound but it's not can't hear you through my headphones even though I'm logged in I don't know if I have to log back out and in on my end

[still tide]

@wind raptor @somber heath hello

anybody hate the new layout and theme

i like the new too

and also the header no need of the sever icon and name we already know it

[still tide]

means its already on the top left

[wind raptor]

Try USB

[primal shadow]

USB

[woeful blaze]

USB?

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/KpgD.gif

https://tenor.com/8dpY.gif

[still tide]

universal serial bus

[primal shadow]

not this

[wind raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/plug-gif-20060658

[woeful blaze]

discord hates me

[still tide]

imagine with vga

[wind raptor]

Test on your sound recorder then

[still tide]

https://tenor.com/view/parallel-port-parallela-lpt-gif-20203268

i still use this one

means i dont found the gif of vga so i send this

[woeful blaze]

USB?

[woeful blaze]

I know that but somebody send USB before also can you hear me

[still tide]

usb is the final boss

[woeful blaze]

@wind raptor

[wind raptor]

no, we can't

Try the included USB

[woeful blaze]

?

I can't believe it maybe these headphones are shot and I just got them today just my luck

[woeful blaze]

I didn't tell you I'm tired of having problems

[wind raptor]

How about you troubleshoot with the setup that you can hear us with

You don't need to use discord to troubleshoot this problem

[woeful blaze]

Could you say it again because I've been trying to fool with it around also I need to share my screen because I could send you screenshots using snippets tool for me and I'll never work and I'd rather not have a headache again with these headphones because they are $16 what can I say everything for me is going down the toilet @wind raptor

[wind raptor]

!stream 1318626588560199692

[wise cargo]

✅ @woeful blaze can now stream until <t:1743040666:f>.

[woeful blaze]

Okay is my screen okay is it showing

@wind raptor

How should I proceed?

[primal shadow]

volume mixer

[woeful blaze]

I can hear you now I'm just I was leaving on headphones so if you were to respond and we got the headphones to work I know that it's not just the output from my speakers

[wintry nacelle]

I gotta send 50 messages before I can talk.

[woeful blaze]

Yes

[wintry nacelle]

What should I send lol?

[woeful blaze]

I did this correct

[wintry nacelle]

Try a different port for the usb

@woeful blaze

[woeful blaze]

Yes

[wintry nacelle]

You need it to show on both output and input

[woeful blaze]

You don't mind if I grab a drink?

[wintry nacelle]

I too was wondering about that

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor do you do proper REST for APIs or just whatever works?

[woeful blaze]

Okay I am back so what is the next plan of attack?

[vocal basin]

(assuming that latest web thingy has at least some amount of API)

[wintry nacelle]

Try testing

play the sample

[woeful blaze]

Kind of I was trying to but it wouldn't work

[wintry nacelle]

Maybe faulty audio driver?

[woeful blaze]

How do I reinstall it?

[wintry nacelle]

Or is there an update for a software that it uses

Just providing options\

go to device manager

[woeful blaze]

How do I install them just tell me and I'll type it up

[wintry nacelle]

device manager> audio inputs and outputs> right click > update driver

[wind raptor]

https://www.realtek.com/Download/Index?cate_id=287&menu_id=298

[wintry nacelle]

or that

[woeful blaze]

So I go to sound?

[wintry nacelle]

the windows button and type device manager

Getting there. 12 more lol

[woeful blaze]

Would custom discord share boxes be interesting?

[wintry nacelle]

No. The computer does not see the device

At least not where you need it to

[woeful blaze]

What now

[wintry nacelle]

Try this

@woeful blaze Im willing to help you if you wanna chat me

[woeful blaze]

Thank you I'm sorry discord dislikes me most days

Also I need to be allowed to screen share again discord kicked me out before I could change it to the device

[wind raptor]

!stream 1318626588560199692

[wise cargo]

✅ @woeful blaze can now stream until <t:1743042116:f>.

[woeful blaze]

That's why my mouse was bobbing up and down

[vocal basin]

@somber heath there's a mod with visual programming for magic spells

[wintry nacelle]

its the usb audio one

[vocal basin]

I forgot the name but that one's quite fun

[wintry nacelle]

right click it

then update driver

I cant see anything but a paused screen

[wintry nacelle]

the first one

When was the last time you restarted?

[woeful blaze]

?

[wintry nacelle]

It could be that

[woeful blaze]

I have nothing really restarted

[wintry nacelle]

And we can talk now!

[woeful blaze]

So it'll work now?

[vocal basin]

I've unlearned tensorflow

[woeful blaze]

Put a thumb up if you can hear me.

Can you hear me?

[vocal basin]

some very loud birds are somewhere near me too

[wind raptor]

no dice

[vocal basin]

there are at least two currently

yelling and screeching
sounds like a me bird

[inner hill]

is it morning there

[woeful blaze]

Shoot

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor I'm reading sqlite docs

I want all postgres stuff I'm making to be compatible with sqlite too

most differences, that I know of, so far are related to multi-row inserts

UNNEST in postgres, for (application-level) in sqlite

WITH RECURSIVE seems to be a normal thing

I might need it later on

[somber heath]

@little surge 👋

[little surge]

HI!

just tryinna fix mic lol!

[vocal basin]

thinking whether or not I need OpenAPI

probably not this time

not yet

[vocal basin]

whoa I just did something that did not fit my view of SQL

[vocal basin]

okay this is a powerful thing

[wind raptor]

What did you do?

[vocal basin]

from a (parent, child) table it generated all possible (ancestor, descendant) pairs

@wise loom POSIX-compat?

well to some extent

Linux isn't POSIX on its own, but at least most things are expected to be present

[wind raptor]

Nice!

[vocal basin]

lack of thread support I can completely forgive, but if it's there, then, yeah, pretty much comprehensive enough POSIX implementation probably

dtrace is the way

(unrelated but still important for debugging)

@wise loom if you're at the level of needing to debug file descriptors, that's a task for dynamic tracing

in most cases

if descriptors are misused, it's broken to the point where you're not monitoring, you're debugging

snmpd is surprisingly powerful for monitoring with a relatively small resource footprint (mostly because it polls, like, 100 times less often)

critical[ly misdesigned] system

they don't even run dockers there

shove the Linux into a LX branded Zone (side quest: get LX branded Zones to actually work) and dtrace it directly without systemtap

[haughty pier]

https://<username>:<password>@blah.blah.com:9876/foo/bar authenticate in an URL, but this is bad because passing your username and password into the network.
https://:@blah.blah.com:9876/foo/bar -> leave out the username and password and use your NTLM SSO authentication?

can't get it to work anymore though

[vocal basin]

anyway I need to go or else I risk actually damaging my brain from the amount of non-sleep I'm doing recently

[still tide]

@haughty pier hi

@haughty pier nothing just listening to peoples talks

and helping if needed

[haughty pier]

lol

[still tide]

ok bye i have to go somewhere

👍

[sudden grail]

@wise loom should I require colon for enum and match
(not necessary for parsing but its nice to have it consistent with if fn for)

enum Foo:
  | variant1
  | variant2
;

let x = Foo.variant1
match x: 
  | Foo.variant1 => print("uno")
  | Foo.variant2 => print("dos")
; 

[haughty pier]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gm-GsCFbYAAPQOw?format=jpg&name=large

[sudden grail]

no making lang

whitespace is always significant in almost every language.

const f are different constf

i have ; for the same reason ruby has end

[haughty pier]

yeah but those semicolons are looking extra redundant

[haughty pier]

I always hate seeing end end end end everywhere in code - I suspect this is one reason Ruby lost out to Python in the interpreted languages wars

[sudden grail]

end is ugly which is why i use ;

most newer langs are using {} and ;

[haughty pier]

you could also eliminate the colons because they're implied by the indents

semicolons are implied by the dedents

give me Python, but no colons preceding every indented code block

[sudden grail]

indentation semantics makes code brittle and formatters cant help you

if condit: 
  foo1
foo2
foo3

[haughty pier]

That's a problem of the writer, and clearly their thinking is disorganized

syntax error

on line 3 (indexed at 0)

[sudden grail]

was foo2 and 3 supposed to be in the if? or not?

the program could run

now you have subtle errors

or maybe no errors

[haughty pier]

ok, now the semantics are clear if whitespace is significant.

foo2 and foo3 are unconditional

[sudden grail]

you also have many text editors messing with whitespace making it incredibly annoying to even use semantic indentation

some will change tabs into spaces lmfao

some will change spaces into tabs

[haughty pier]

I work on a 14 million line Python codebase - significant whitespace works well for us.

[sudden grail]

i've wrote plenty of python myself

i originally used significant indentation with the language

and decided i dont like it for the language

[haughty pier]

makefiles work great with significant whitespace - they use tabs.

[sudden grail]

yes tabs are superior to spaces

thats obvious

tabs allow you to view a tab with however much you believe a single indent should be 2 spaces, 3, 4 etc..

[haughty pier]

Haskell and Elm enjoy their significant whitespace as well

[sudden grail]

haskell has way to much type inference

hard to understand anything

i think you would like lobster

@haughty pier https://www.strlen.com/lobster/

https://github.com/aardappel/lobster

[haughty pier]

I think if someone looks at that and thinks the meaning is ambiguous they are not right Hank Hill voice.

[haughty pier]

additionally - the colon is redundant - if whitespace is significant

[whole bear]

@carmine tangle problem with india is that its continent happened to be a country and some fighting insurgency since independence!

@quartz beacon my bad wrong ping

[quartz beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/756390363371143178/1354476404929986751/image.png?ex=67e616b3&is=67e4c533&hm=29a38a8edf7c64a1f4eecc10d683b1955d851dfd4f6e13f99d776be029e9bd6d&

[somber heath]

@grim abyss 👋

@unborn pelican 👋

[unborn pelican]

yoo

[somber heath]

@noble depot 👋

[vocal basin]

only 4 hours but at least that's more than 0

[somber heath]

@tender ermine 👋

[vocal basin]

when I tried to look up "кят" some pagan society showed up

doesn't seem to be a sect yet

reading that Heavy is from Khabarovsk Krai reminded me of that weird Russia map with West/Centre/East/etc. labelled according to how people use them to describe parts of the country

[upper basin]

For me I mostly have brain fog (like I feel really slow, or can't think), and poor memory (I am embarrassed to say, but yesterday I listened very well to something someone said, and even though I listened and understood it, I had to ask three times throughout the day because I kept forgetting shortly after).

For me also it's not really the number of hours itself, but the time I sleep.

[upper basin]

If you sleep consistently around 11 PM, and wake up consistently around 8 AM, I think you should run rather well.

[vocal basin]

that's the whole joke, yes

European part is West
centre of European part is Centre
Siberia is North
far East is East

[hasty orbit]

@astral coral the kid in question

[open moth]

[astral coral]

don't ask

[vocal basin]

postgres is slightly misunderstanding what I'm doing

at least it's not too slow

[vocal basin]

plans to read 997268 rows, ends up reading only one

@peak depot "just AI generate more learning material" -- any AI bro

1000x slower 🚀

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-yeah-thats-a-no-gif-14205737

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-awake-play-princess-anna-gif-15604333

[vocal basin]

turtle on a turtle on a turtle on a ...

no (not yet)

[hasty orbit]

was that an intant ban or did they just leave?

[astral coral]

forma

[upper basin]

@somber heath Want to see the game?

I made the NPC and player controls and animations.

[vocal basin]

in EU they try to shove people to whatever the first point of entry is iirc

they only deal with them where they currently are if whatever time limit runs out

bureaucracy 🚀

[whole bear]

Wealthy individuals from affluent countries often receive preferential treatment, even when they break the law.

[amber raptor]

Story the world over

[vocal basin]

shocking tragic news about British airports: Luton exists

or something of that sort

[astral coral]

Stanstead

Gatwick

the Alantic

I mean if I was aircontrol for American flights ....

[whole bear]

Borders are not meant to be crossed unlawfully; those who do so knowingly accept the risks involved.

[vocal basin]

that sounds somewhat of an old engineering plan

it's been there for decades

please don't spam dots across channels to reach the message count

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/space-gif-9460800

[vocal basin]

@keen jackal I've deleted your messages, please re-read the criteria in #voice-verification if you're willing to verify

Greenland found rare earth stuffs too

but they refuse to dig them out

Trump seems to want rare earth minerals from everyone as far as memes and news are concerned

Greenland, Ukraine, Russia

Belarus

[whole bear]

If Greenland become part of US, its population would explode

[vocal basin]

tbf Trump didn't want anything to do with Belarus, it was Lukashenko's idea

[willow light]

In a place where I can''t use my voice, so text only

Greenland has rare earths, but the real prize is more control over the arctic ocean. It's the same reason why he wants to control canada.

It's the reason why russia wants to pretend the gakkel ridge is part of their continental shelf. Who controls the arctic ocean wins when the ice melts and the juicy china-europe shipping routes open up.

[upbeat bobcat]

Hi!

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-cat-row-boat-boating-gif-12903093113831772718

[willow light]

China has plenty of economic incentive to accelerate warming since it means they won't have to use either the suez or panama canals.

Yes they do, and I admire them for that.

They should build more, and so should everyone else.

It's amazing what is being done with 1950s tech everywhere except Canada and China.

[vocal basin]

I'm sleepy and I don't think energy drinks will help me at all

[willow light]

China, last I checked, is using CANDU (canadian) reactors for fission. It's arguably the safest way to do rod-based uranium fission power reactors, simply by turning the reactor on its side.

So like musubi? @peak depot

[vocal basin]

I'm afraid it will worsen the anxiety further

[willow light]

musubi is fried spam with teriyaki sauce, and usually served on top of a bit of rice.

It's hawaiian

CPTSD is ND, yes. I have it too.

I'd argue that if you are on the spectrum at all, you have CPTSD whether you realize it or not. There's no such thing as an untraumatized autistic person.

[vocal basin]

I did not know that's a term

[willow light]

We all have childhood trauma.

[vocal basin]

though idk if it describes what I have well because there's a very specific singular event

[astral coral]

I have autism and schizophrenia :L

[willow light]

I very strongly remember the time I was ostracized by literally my entire hometown for a year.

[astral coral]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

I used to hallucinate lynch mobs :L

[willow light]

YES

PLEASE

[willow light]

wiggles/stims in anticipation

I will be catsitting this week, since my parents are going to be in Amsterdam.

So plenty of time with the catloaf that is Maestro.

[willow light]

This is exactly what my climatology professor did with his homelab.

[hasty orbit]

cursed idea

[willow light]

Sitting in a cafe because the water is shutoff at my apartment literally all day today. Not like I need to scrub my apartment real good soon since I failed inspection. Apparently I don't know how to scrub my fridge, microwave, stove, floors, shower, bathtub, sinks, or walls.

[crisp tangle]

Yo how do i start learning Python basics

[willow light]

You know the bite of unemployment is starting to really hit when you decide to treat yourself with strozzapreti con pomodoro e cece.

Homemade pasta (much cheaper when you don't use eggs), tomatoes, and chickpeas. About as cheap as it can get while still being good.

[hasty orbit]

here you go 😆

print("Hello World!")

[willow light]

(I live near a store where I can get a 7 lb bag of dried chickpeas for $1)

I have ten issues. I'm wearing them.

Okay, if anyone works at Red Hat and is willing to send a referall link, I am looking at the Boston area.

@peak depot I'm skinny by American standards, but very round by European standards.

@hasty orbit yes she is

I've seen enough to know.