I don't know latin
#voice-chat-text-0
vocal basin
whole bear
Now let's take oath!
No more hello world, now onwards only Hi world, as hello world sounds desperate!
vocal basin
or go all way and make it hii wowwd
rugged root
!e
print("Sup, dawg?")
wise cargoBOT
!e
```py
print("Sup, dawg?")
```
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Sup, dawg?
I petition for that
whole bear
I think it's slang used by specific group from African descent
vocal basin
or go all way and make it hii wowwd
assert cultural dominance over the conversation
astral coral
!e print("wagwon")
wise cargoBOT
!e print("wagwon")
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wagwon
masquerade
ah, it's about games not NAT
whole bear
Force umute them
primal shadow
Another lovely day
upbeat bobcat
Hello everyone!
vocal basin
Force umute them
given there is no n in that word...
"force, you mute them"
sounds like something Yoda might say
astral coral
!e print("wagwon cuz, Mandem got bare chill fam")
wise cargoBOT
!e print("wagwon cuz, Mandem got bare chill fam")
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wagwon cuz, Mandem got bare chill fam
I barely know my own countries slang ... donnoh if good or bad thing
radiant iron
!e print("wagwon cuz, Mandem got bare chill fam")
join call!
radiant iron
awh okay
rugged root
Laaaame
astral coral
Yeah -.-
whole bear
Unmute them all, they have right to speak, even if it cost them embarrassment
@simple stirrup Dude you can type if you find difficulty in Spoken English
simple stirrup
<@1271127572545146911> Dude you can type if you find difficulty in Spoken Englis...
yes sure
in this or you?
which
whole bear
Ig you're talking about Mindful dev?
simple stirrup
Ig you're talking about Mindful dev?
nope i asked to mindful dev "what is this site"
scenic shuttle
can someone teach me Python class
whole bear
nope i asked to mindful dev "what is this site"
Hmm
vocal basin
class?
scenic shuttle
@whole bear ..
OOP
whole bear
can someone teach me Python class
rugged root
can someone teach me Python class
Sure, I've got an example I can help break down with you
It's one of my favorite things to teach
scenic shuttle
okay
languid helm
neuron activation
rugged root
okay
Is there a specific part of it that's tripping you up? Or do you just need the full primer on it
scenic shuttle
full primer
whole bear
Hemlock must charge 20 dollar minimum per hour for tutoring
scenic shuttle
i need to understand what is Class
rugged root
Sure sure. Give me just a sec to write out the class
upper basin
Come down
astral coral
You are the Game Master of an interactive, text-based adventure game. The story follows a scientist who has lost their memory and is trapped in a wrecked lab. The player’s goal is to recover their memory and escape the laboratory, while making choices that shape their journey, uncover their past, and face moral dilemmas. Track the player's decisions and psychological state to make the game feel personal.
Key elements:
Dynamic Story: The player’s choices change the narrative, with each decision having lasting consequences.
Psychological Tracking: Keep track of the player’s decisions and their psychological state (e.g., trust, empathy, stress).
Moral Choices: Present tough moral decisions that affect relationships, outcomes, and the protagonist’s development.
Memory Recovery: The player uncovers memories throughout the game, influencing the story and gameplay.
Chapter 1: The Forgotten Scientist
You wake up on the cold floor of a dim lab. The room is filled with broken equipment and dust, and a strange emptiness fills your mind. You don’t know who you are or how you ended up here. A desk nearby holds open notebooks filled with strange formulas and notes.
Suddenly, you hear footsteps approaching from behind a door.
Choices:
Investigate the desk - (You may uncover clues about your identity).
Confront the footsteps - (You may meet someone or something important).
Escape through a window - (You might get out, but risk danger).
Try to remember - (You may recall important details, but could waste time).
Psychological Tracking:
Memory Recovery: The more the player uncovers, the more they learn about the scientist’s past.
Trust vs. Suspicion: How much the player trusts others will affect interactions.
Empathy: The player’s choices will shape how compassionate or self-centred the scientist becomes.
Stress Level: High stress may affect decision-making or limit options.
rugged root
Aww, okay
rugged root
Seems like it, ye
whole bear
South east inferior, North east superior
rugged root
If you need assistance or something explained in a different way, hit me up
languid helm
hmm youre neither in the uiua server not in the jq one
rugged root
Correct. I was grilling AF to see whether they knew about some of those languages
vocal basin
hmm youre neither in the uiua server not in the jq one
I doubt Hemlock will remember what uiua is for more than a few minutes
rugged root
I feel accurately called out
spark girder
hmm youre neither in the uiua server not in the jq one
You mind sending me an invite for the two rust servers and the discord.py server? 
primal shadow
We're discussing medicines
languid helm
Correct. I was grilling AF to see whether they knew about some of those languag...
oh
rugged root
We're discussing medicines
primal shadow
They are
languid helm
i tried to read the discussion but i thought these are the languages you know
primal shadow
Just because some elderly men decided they wanted ot lock people up for using em doesn't change facts
vocal basin
I shall go inquire if Alisa (which one? even I don't know anymore) knows uiua
languid helm
i use uiua and jq on ~daily basis so i got very emotional
astral coral
Omg awkward :S
So as you know I have schizo
I have to go to a clinic to get antipsychotivs
whole bear
!e
print("peace out dawg")
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peace out dawg
She's been calling me and texting, but like
languid helm
wait why did you ping me
you're not in the uiua server and i dont think i even know you?
i am confusion
whole bear
oop lol
vocal basin
wait why did you ping me
you're not in the uiua server and i dont think i even k...
I have a different name on telegram (for Russia and work reasons)
languid helm
oh
wise cargoBOT
spring willow
!e print("Wassap")
wise cargoBOT
!e print("Wassap")
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Wassap
we should collect the four Alisas in one place
spring willow
!e print("I like Tutel")
wise cargoBOT
!e print("I like Tutel")
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I like Tutel
In an unprofessional way I'm guessing?
wintry nacelle
What is the best way to learn this stuff?
whole bear
!e print("frog")
wise cargoBOT
!e print("frog")
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frog
oh, wait, @grim hatch rejoined RPLCS
languid helm
I have a different name on telegram (for Russia and work reasons)
what is it
rugged root
What is the best way to learn this stuff?
It's different from person to person. I like reading resources, some people prefer online courses, while others prefer youtube vids
rugged root
i
rugged root
❤️
primal shadow
I don't drink, so I won't invite you to drink
whole bear
reading the code is the easiest way to learn in my opinion
vocal basin
what is it
primal shadow
reading the code is the easiest way to learn in my opinion
I disagree 100%
Reading code is pain
writing code is life
wintry nacelle
reading the code is the easiest way to learn in my opinion
Just by reading random code
whole bear
reading the code is the easiest way to learn in my opinion
Nah, implementation is best way to learn micro to small to medium to large project
primal shadow
I learn significantly more writing than I do trying to decipher what someone else wrote
whole bear
Just by reading random code
yea ngl thats how i learned most of mine
spring willow
What is the best way to learn this stuff?
Read Code, Rewrite Code, Implement Code
whole bear
ngl theres a guy writing code in vc 1 so if you want to read it and shi go there ngl it looks great from what i see in the preview
whole bear
all to there own
languid helm
ohh
primal shadow
If you don't know how to program, I don't think watching ACE build his quantum connector is gonna clarify things
whole bear
he explains it very well
rugged root
He was previously helping someone learn classes
primal shadow
HUGE difference between having someone explain code to you and reading code
that is a significantly different method of learning
whole bear
that is a significantly different method of learning
true
rugged root
Which is why I was alright with passing it to him
primal shadow
Just by reading random code
Just going back to this
rugged root
Fair fair
primal shadow
What is the best way to learn this stuff?
well, this really
the original question that led to the first answer
radiant iron
SCRIMMAGE
vocal basin
three channels' comments likely
languid helm
two
rugged root
@versed heath What's up
vocal basin
meme channel, less memey channel, and purplesyringa's channel
"I truly can remember thing names"
languid helm
you mean here public channel? i didnt join that chat
im in two of her private chats though
vocal basin
meme channel, less memey channel, and purplesyringa's channel
(telegram)
languid helm
am i a microcelebrity 🤯
primal shadow
To shoot
duh
cheap to very
you can see a wide range of prices
for a wide range of styles / needs
languid helm
i want to learn to use a sat solver but not sure which one
vocal basin
you mean here public channel? i didnt join that chat
there's one more channel that, I think, I never interacted in, and eventually left
(Aiver)
primal shadow
America
whole bear
o.o thats alot
primal shadow
That website is fun
vocal basin
i want to learn to use a sat solver but not sure which one
I wonder what kani uses 
primal shadow
it's a ridiculous gun
vocal basin
from what I remember kani, does some SAT solving as part of the process
languid helm
there's one more channel that, I think, I never interacted in, and eventually le...
ohhhh
languid helm
i almost never skip a concert when its in moscow
primal shadow
kill the app
languid helm
shes cool
tepid mantle
£166,416
vocal basin
you went to the one that was in June/July, right?
vocal basin
in the centre of the city
tepid mantle
$214,958
languid helm
just like most of her concerts
vocal basin
like, very centre
languid helm
last one was in 16 tons
vocal basin
I did buy the tickets for the last one but my brain decided mental breakdown was more of a priority and I couldn't go anywhere
languid helm
damn
upper basin
def __add__(self, other: 'Human') -> 'Human':
return Human(name=self.name + other.name, age=0)
I still regret that I put my legal name when buying the ticket, though that was completely unnecessary
I think the combination of that and meeting someone I completely did not expect to meet was what pushed me over the edge of "I'd rather just wait for 3 years again"
I have a very broken brain
languid helm
you went to the one that was in June/July, right?
ohhh thats the one where she sold tshirts right?
like the first time
upper basin
params = {
k: v for k, v in operation.items()
if k not in ALL_QUBIT_KEYS.union(['definition', 'gate'])
}
meta_params = {
k: v for k, v in operation.items()
if k not in ['definition', 'gate']
}
it was around that time, I think, yes
languid helm
some basement bar
need to remember where it was
rugged root
in a basement
vocal basin
a few minutes away from Kremlin
or rather a few minutes away from a school which is a few minutes away from Kremlin
languid helm
some basement bar
need to remember where it was
no i think that was a different one
languid helm
or rather a few minutes away from a school which is a few minutes away from Krem...
you mean 57?
this one ig
upper basin
I still regret that I put my legal name when buying the ticket, though that was ...
Why wouldn't you use your actual name?
vocal basin
yes
languid helm
yest thats it i think
tepid mantle
this is what I meant by breeding and it seems it does happen in reactors just not as the main goal
vocal basin
you mean 57?
179
primal shadow
work
Drugs cost me mone
so if there's no money
no drugs to pretend one has money
IDK about that
the news showing democracy is dead made it real
the number is just a number
rugged root
primal shadow
the daily headlines are crystal clearness
languid helm
hidden bar
hehe
vocal basin
okay that makes me a bit less unhappy about my choice
upper basin
languid helm
hmm wonder where did i put the poem she wrote for me
vocal basin
same
upper basin
def __eq__(
self,
other_node: object
) -> bool:
if not isinstance(other_node, DAGNode):
return False
if self.meta_name != other_node.meta_name:
return False
inclusion_check: dict[DAGNode, int] = {}
self_stack: list[DAGNode] = [self]
self_nodes: list[DAGNode] = [self]
other_stack: list[DAGNode] = [other_node]
other_nodes: list[DAGNode] = [other_node]
while self_stack:
self_node = self_stack.pop()
if self_node in inclusion_check:
continue
# Set the inclusion check of the node to zero
# (this value is arbitrary, we just need a placeholder)
inclusion_check[self_node] = 0
for child in sorted(self_node.children):
self_stack.append(child)
self_nodes.append(child)
# Clear the inclusion check for the other node
# for safety
# (this should not be necessary given that we are
# using the hash of the nodes, but should this change
# in the future, this will be a necessary safety measure)
inclusion_check.clear()
while other_stack:
other_node = other_stack.pop()
if other_node in inclusion_check:
continue
# Set the inclusion check of the node to zero
# (this value is arbitrary, we just need a placeholder)
inclusion_check[other_node] = 0
for child in sorted(other_node.children):
other_stack.append(child)
other_nodes.append(child)
if len(self_nodes) != len(other_nodes):
return False
for self_node, other_node in zip(self_nodes, other_nodes):
if self_node.meta_name != other_node.meta_name:
return False
return True
.
rugged root
What generated this?
languid helm
oo this is it
marble trench
rugged root
Not entirely sure how I feel about arbitrary zip files - nevermind, you got the github link
Carry on
marble trench
@rugged root Thanks
vocal basin
at least I got the book signed with my preferred initials 💛
brazen gazelle
Not entirely sure how I feel about arbitrary zip files - nevermind, you got the ...
...
languid helm
at least I got the book signed with my preferred initials 💛
thats nice
vocal basin
oo this is it
I completely forgot about mine because of that meeting someone thing
brazen gazelle
no I agree
languid helm
i have bought more than half a dozen books from her i think
languid helm
I completely forgot about mine because of that meeting someone thing
so uh did you not get it
rugged root
cProfile for the profiling. gprof for visualization.
Still looking
vocal basin
no, like, forgot to put it in a place where it would be properly kept
rugged root
Although I'm not entirely sure what the values mean on the chart
rugged root
Total time the action took in the program?
upper basin
Total time the action took in the program?
For a tiny example, 0.2.
upper basin
I need sth in 0.002 for that size.
languid helm
i can ask kris if she has a backup
rugged root
For a tiny example, 0.2.
I have to look at the docs to understand the graph
upper basin
I have to look at the docs to understand the graph
It's okay, thank you so much for the help.
I don't want to take more of your time.
rugged root
But in general, .pop() on any container that supports it is very efficient.
It's always O(1)
Well
languid helm
mine did not deteriorite but still some places are not readable because its in cursive
primal shadow
can always do if THING not in [1,2,3,]
vocal basin
oo this is it
мышь mentioned
a whole two of мышь
languid helm
мышимышимышимыши
vocal basin
(translation: mice)
primal shadow
not 1,3 seems to be in 0,2
rugged root
can always do if THING not in [1,2,3,]
I think average case of that is.... O(n-k)? No wait that doesn't feel right...
primal shadow
guessing we've got 0-3 available
rugged root
Or is it just O(n)
primal shadow
not in should be 0(n)
primal shadow
since it should have to check the whole list, once per element
rugged root
If you'd want to see if something is in, you'll probably want a set
primal shadow
in can short circuit
languid helm
my bf
rugged root
Right right
primal shadow
they were asking if they could if != a or b
vocal basin
mine did not deteriorite but still some places are not readable because its in c...
I'm systematically forcing cursive upon this world through it being the only way I write manually, so not as much of a problem for me
rugged root
they were asking if they could `if != a or b`
Logic error
rugged root
👍
primal shadow
instead of chaining ors
languid helm
I'm systematically forcing cursive upon this world through it being the only way...
my writing is something else
it transitioned to being a mix of block and cursive
primal shadow
rugged root
Makes the syntax cleaner sometimes
Although... I wonder if it improves performance on larger things
Probably not
primal shadow
I love how on this server
rugged root
Hmm
primal shadow
after the person who asked for help is done iwth it
the conversation often carries on
upper basin
after the person who asked for help is done iwth it
iwth?
scarlet halo
guys i need advice
rugged root
Oh huh. any() and all() are implemented in C
rugged root
guys i need advice
Shoot
scarlet halo
i have a friend who we have tried to help countless times but he just cant seem to figure it out however much we help him. what do we do 😭
"we" being me + my other friends
rugged root
@versed heath He's not in VC, no
upper basin
Oh.
primal shadow
sometimes one finger gets to the next key before the prior got to the first
often really
especially with the
upper basin
Sorry, I am rather bad with acronyms, thought it was an acronym.
primal shadow
hte is far more common than I'd care to see
rugged root
i have a friend who we have tried to help countless times but he just cant seem ...
Have someone else explain it. Sometimes you just need something explained in a different way
languid helm
my writing is something else
it transitioned to being a mix of block and cursive
some examples
rugged root
@versed heath Sup
Yes
But?
You should be, it's awesome
Your hard work shows
You should be proud
upper basin
some examples
These look like highschool math? I'm probably wrong, since you're about 20 now right?
languid helm
These look like highschool math? I'm probably wrong, since you're about 20 now r...
yep
rugged root
Control deez rods
vocal basin
some examples
random question: do you put left parenthesis/brace before writing the content or do you put both after the inner content is written?
languid helm
random question: do you put left parenthesis/brace before writing the content or...
the latter mostly
vocal basin
I got so annoyed at not being able to write proper matching parentheses when writing in-order that I just always punctuate those after-the-fact
languid helm
since brace height depends on the content
rugged root
Back in a moment
languid helm
but for small things i can write the left paren beforehand
languid helm
`\left`-`\right`-brained writing
typst ftw
languid helm
do it
vocal basin
used to do TeX compiled locally, then switched to self-hosted Overleaf
languid helm
typst is much easier to use
vocal basin
Overleaf is very cursed to self-host
languid helm
does nixos not have a module for it
vocal basin
the container image is giant when properly configured
if you've never seen inside Overleaf's internals, you're probably not prepared for the horrors inside
at least the way it was back when it was sharedlatex
languid helm
vscodium with a couple of plugins is good enough for typst
on par with the webapp
(note: the webapp is proprietary)
vocal basin
if you've never seen inside Overleaf's internals, you're probably not prepared f...
phusion (goodbye independent deployment) + mognodb (goodbye old CPUs)
it takes ages to start up
and never stops gracefully
stuck furnace
I got so annoyed at not being able to write proper matching parentheses when wri...
I almost always forgot to write the closing paren if it was at the end of a line
languid helm
i have a lifelong typst pro subscription (they gave them out for free to all testers) so im fine with using the webapp
languid helm
phusion (goodbye independent deployment) + mognodb (goodbye old CPUs)
oof
yeah typst is much easier to set up
vocal basin
year 2080: everyone just submits markdown files to journals because can't be bothered
languid helm
i think there was some video about backtracking GoL where a SAT solver was used
maybe i'll look for that
languid helm
year 2080: everyone just submits markdown files to journals because can't be bot...
which markdown
vocal basin
the one that Jupyter renders
remember: the combination of scientists and can't be bothered
vocal basin
"hopefully not as difficult to install as Cling"
I tried compiling Cling kernel for Jupyter and it OOMd
(Cling is Clang interpreter)
languid helm
all c++ tooling is awful
vocal basin
I haven't yet faced any clang-format issues
I configured it to behave similarly to what rustfmt does
... to format a total of 3 files that I only change once a few months
languid helm
I haven't yet faced any clang-format issues
i have
first of all it doesnt actually support tabs for indentation
it formats everything with spaces then replaces every n spaces with a tab
causing mixed indentation in some places
upper basin
@versed heath Good work, I'm sure your teacher will be happy.
I'm gonna take my figurative cadaver to the haystack.
languid helm
wise cargoBOT
src/rtti.hpp lines 11 to 20
// clang-format off
(
(
dynamic_cast<const Ts*>(dyn)
? (res = std::reference_wrapper<Ts> { *static_cast<const Ts*>(dyn) }, 0)
: 0
),
...
);
// clang-format on```yes, mr python, c++ is indeed trash
anyway, this chunk of code is formatted weirdly and i havent found anything to circumvent this
upper basin
I must impress upon thou to shield thy souls from the dark grasps of Nosferatu. Pray, he shan't discover thou in thy moment of ailment.
vocal basin
yes, mr python, c++ is indeed trash
perfect timing:
languid helm
fr
vocal basin
C++ has great theoretical basis behind it
but it's implemented so poorly the authors of the theory prefer to distance themselves from the terms they invented
spark girder
Bye @ivory stump have a good day!
ivory stump
you too!
versed heath
pip install pyame
spark girder
!pypi hake
wise cargoBOT
versed heath
!pipy discord
spare galleon
pip install pyame
use pygame-ce, its is much more stable, and feature rich
vocal basin
!pypi hata
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
ctrl+f
touhou
languid helm
!pypi redo
wise cargoBOT
languid helm
huh whats that
spark girder
!pypi hata
Thank you!
vocal basin
@versed heath who would ever combine smalltalk and basic-- oh wait you meant something else
rugged root
Neat
languid helm
is redo not on pypi
vocal basin
uh
languid helm
anyway, this chunk of code is formatted weirdly and i havent found anything to c...
here
languid helm
uh
thats outdated
it uses python 3 afaik
although redo-apenwarr havent been updated for quite a while
vocal basin
my latest annoyment with indentation in IDEs: #voice-chat-text-0 message
primal shadow
Aww, the open mic left
languid helm
absolutely unreadable + hard to edit + hell for git diff
vocal basin
Elm
point2D =
{ x = 0
, y = 0
}
I find it easier to edit/read when writing SQL
primal shadow
more than I don't
primal shadow
absolutely unreadable + hard to edit + hell for git diff
hell for git diff?
languid helm
why not
point2D = {
x = 0,
y = 0,
}
how so?
vocal basin
why not
```elm
point2D = {
x = 0,
y = 0,
}
```
if it behaved like SQL or JSON, because
point2D = {
x = 0,
y = 0
}
in case of SQL, also in table definitions this is often easier to read because stuff aligns better
unless you just want to place commas aligned at the end, which is also an option
languid helm
hell for git diff?
git diff prefers line-oriented patches
with this code style you would often get some modifications on lines which are not meaningfully modified, just like when you dont use trailing commas
vocal basin
there is no option to use trailing commas, that's the main problem
languid helm
that sucks
vocal basin
yes
languid helm
does elm not support that?
vocal basin
elm-lang/elm-plans#2
viscid lagoonBOT
vocal basin
there is no option to use trailing commas, that's the main problem
(in SQL/JSON)
there is a hack in SQL, with adding 1 either in the beginning or at the end
for select
vocal basin
doesn't work well if the outside world does not expect that 1
e.g. with query_as! in sqlx
though just query! might be okay
primal shadow
Oh, some Rust thing, I don't consider Rust issues
vocal basin
anything that attempts to put names, as selected, into struct fields runs into that, I'd expect
vocal basin
_oogabooga
languid helm
hell for git diff?
consider the following for [foo, bar, baz, qux]:
lst = [ foo
, bar
, baz
]
lst = [
foo,
bar,
baz
]
suppose you want to remove foo and add qux
-lst = [ foo
+lst = [ bar
- , bar
, baz
+ , qux
]
lst = [
- foo,
bar,
- baz
+ baz,
+ qux
]
drop the -
languid helm
with
lst = [
foo,
bar,
baz,
]
you'd just get
lst = [
- foo,
bar,
baz,
+ qux,
]
Doesn't that also depend on the diff algo?
languid helm
it probably does, although you'd still get the visual effect
languid helm
consider the following for `[foo, bar, baz, qux]`:
```py
lst = [ foo
, bar...
but normally with either of these two you'd have to resolve more conflicts manually
and, again, editing is also harder with those
primal shadow
Editing is harder with what?
vocal basin
Editing is harder with what?
duplicating a line doesn't work for edge cases in both styles without a trailing comma
as in is guaranteed to cause a syntax error
adding a row in the middle and at the edge involves different actions
languid helm
Editing is harder with what?
i don't know any editors which don't make this a problem
with helix, removing a line is just xd and adding is o then entering the text you need
but here you also need to adjust commas
vocal basin
average stackoverflow HN answer
seems like "before column name vs after column name" thing is so divisive that "trailing comma" default meaning is
a,
b,
c
in SQL world
(as opposed to leading)
time for "trailing trailing comma"
it's like repeating -f or -v in CLI
spark girder
https://discord.gg/dpy
https://discord.gg/rust-lang
https://discord.gg/rust-lang...
Much appreciated
vocal basin
@molten pewter I'm here but not active
@molten pewter that's a very unsafe URL
query params
someone severely misdesigned warp.dev
login via website almost certainly must be OAuth2 PKCE
with API key set in web
I wonder if it knows hata
spark girder
pip install selenium gTTS pygame httpx
primal shadow
I hear not reading makes being a developer real easy
spark girder
vocal basin
was away from the PC, couldn't type, now back
self-botting only refers to automating actions done by a user account
which is effectively doing anything outside OAuth2
OAuth2 includes reading messages
see the API reference for how much you can use that
primal shadow
"vibe coding" hate that
vocal basin
you'll be dealing with things like privacy laws rather than self-botting rules
how you read messages is a different part of ToS
empty brain happy brain
I have no idea how sleep actually works
I just know not to interfere with it too much
primal shadow
woeful blaze
May I ask for some help
vocal basin
@molten pewter " 'vibe coding' discipline: non-technical talks only while the AI is thinking "
woeful blaze
Setting up headphones
vocal basin
prompt, talk, prompt, talk
@primal shadow where it applies okay-ish-ly (example that Theo gave):
you ask the AI for many different options and choose the one you "vibe" more with
not just AI-driven-coding
multiple options being an important part
i.e. AI generates vague garbage at speed and you pick from that
why does g in vague not close the syllable
just because "gue" is kind of a monolithic morpheme
presumably
vocal basin
Setting up headphones
is there a volume control on the wire/headphones themselves?
vocal basin
I have no idea what this brand is even
STT is clearly the wrong way round (unrelated to headphones question)
STT is only okay-ish as accessibility measure
woeful blaze
I have no idea what this brand is even
I found them at dollar tree
vocal basin
do the lights work when you plug it in
woeful blaze
Yes
vocal basin
unusually giant phonetic section
woeful blaze
vocal basin
or an any expert at all, human or otherwise, since AIs aren't experts yet
innovation in programming is limited by hardware
you can't advance programming theory without practice and communication between parties with uneven knowledge
AI can't break physical laws
no matter how smart we are, we wouldn't be able to invent languages like Rust and its extensive ecosystem if we were limited to 1980s hardware
but we sure would be able to do that with JS
because core of JS was invented in 1950s as part of Lisp
ohno
@main comet
vocal basin
lessons learned in the past 24 hours:
- do not buy JBL headsets
- do not buy headsets that are cheaper than JBL
woeful blaze
@primal shadow can you hear me
vocal basin
is this a discord or system sound?
woeful blaze
Discord
wise cargoBOT
✅ @main comet can now stream until <t:1742588441:f>.
woeful blaze
I'm trying my best can anyone hear me
vocal basin
first get it to work on recording
record an mp3/whatever using tools the system provides
listen to it
okay you have convinced me, I'm opening Brick Rigs again
@primal shadow maybe it was a vibe engineered headset
woeful blaze
woeful blaze
yeah, you can probably hear how it's problematic yourself
how should i fix it?
vocal basin
this is normally fixed by buying headphones from a real brand
also
those headphones claim to have built-in noise cancellation
find a way to disable it
vocal basin
those headphones claim to have built-in noise cancellation
as claimed by Amazon
tawdry viper
guys i have a problem with vscode
for some weird reason when i import with python file it's doesn't import what should i do??
primal shadow
vocal basin
guys i have a problem with vscode
for some weird reason when i import with pyt...
"doesn't import" -- is there an error?
tawdry viper
no when i try to import it from the terminal it doesn't work i see it downloading but the file still don't recognise it for some weird reason
vocal basin
what is the error?
how are you running the file?
what package are you installing?
are you using a venv?
tawdry viper
for example
vocal basin
is this VSCode?
vocal basin
are you using a venv?
also this question is still relevant
- how are you installing the package?
tawdry viper
is this VSCode?
yes
vocal basin
you probably need to do:
ctrl shift p
select interpreter
<select the one you're using, preferably from inside the venv if it exists>
tawdry viper
you probably need to do:
ctrl shift p
select interpreter
<select the one you're ...
it's works thx
vocal basin
I'm switching to using uv almost exclusively for package managing, you can look into that too
uv avoids the venv activation step at the cost of requiring you to use uv run instead of just python
woeful blaze
vocal basin
Discord settings don't affect system-level recording quality normally
vocal basin
I'm switching to using `uv` almost exclusively for package managing, you can loo...
- it automatically adds everything into
pyproject.tomlanduv.lock
tawdry viper
I'm switching to using `uv` almost exclusively for package managing, you can loo...
interesting
vocal basin
@main comet GitHub actions the compilation, waste the free tier credits
woeful blaze
Discord settings don't affect system-level recording quality normally
How can I fix the issue though?
main comet
vocal basin
How can I fix the issue though?
first, disable built-in noise cancellation of the microphone
which is allegedly enabled
woeful blaze
There isn't any from what I've seen on the packaging
full ether
Can someone tell me why I cant talk in the python chat for the vc. I have been in this group for about a week now and I still can not talk in the vc. I have had my discord account till 2017
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!user 553259247853633546
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
what would you want to talk about?
full ether
I have to send a few more messages. Is there a channel? It failed for me on the messages. Like I swear I am legitamatley not a troll.
vocal basin
@main comet I only know in whose background that was
full ether
I have a few years of python developing and have a few projects that I support on my own. I am very confortable with python.
vocal basin
do you have a GitHub account/are those projects open-source?
full ether
Right now, I a keep my work private becuase I would like to monitize from it. If you would like I could go over them with you personally though.
I can share my github account?
vocal basin
I recommend further researching how open sourcing helps monetise software, and why many companies now move towards it
yes, sharing GitHub accounts generally isn't considered advertisement
so should be okay
full ether
Well, I am kind of like a college student. I feel like my work should be protected. LMAO
I graduated though.
I work for a fortune 500 company as a software analyst.
solid pagoda
👋
vocal basin
You can verify now
collective effort: I asked questions, they talked~~, and you were late to notice them talking~~
!d compile
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
Well, I am kind of like a college student. I feel like my work should be protect...
do you use your own Git server infrastructure?
e.g. Forgejo or GitLab
or just private GitHub repos?
@full ether ChatGPT is good at being expensive
maybe real open source models just ended at GPT2
@full ether RPLCS's VCs are quite active
full ether
do you use your own Git server infrastructure?
yes, I have my own git repos
vocal basin
<@553259247853633546> RPLCS's VCs are quite active
I've definitely seen 5 active VCs at once before there
vocal basin
Rust Programming Language Community Server
full ether
I dont know rust
vocal basin
I have three microphones connected to the PC but I don't use them for speaking here
full ether
I have three microphones connected to the PC but I don't use them for speaking h...
why so private?
vocal basin
it's not a privacy concern, I have shared my voice publicly before
full ether
it's not a privacy concern, I have shared my voice publicly before
oh
thats ok
I wouldl ike to talk to you is all
vocal basin
90 chrome windows 🥰
what kind of skynet type story are you attempting to scheme right now
I'm not entirely sure what's supposed to be streamed
wicked egret
versed heath
def update(self):
if pygame.mouse.get_pressed(3)[0]:
self.velocity = 0
self.x = pygame.mouse.get_pos()[0]
else:
force = self.spring()
self.velocity += force
self.x += self.velocity
print(self.x)
def spring(self):
force = -((self.x - self.normal_x) * self.k)
return force
@full ether another opportunity to mention that Eclipse is newer than IntelliJ IDEA
full ether
Oh, I use vs code really thats it
vocal basin
just to compare, what Eclipse looks like approximately
no it's not a decent idea
if your codebase isn't "AI-native" or already completely rotten (which is the same), you shouldn't do that
full ether
just to compare, what Eclipse looks like approximately
oh cool
what kind of projects do you workn in python?
vocal basin
<@553259247853633546> another opportunity to mention that Eclipse is newer than ...
(the joke, if not clear, is that Eclipse looks ancient despite being newer)
vocal basin
what kind of projects do you workn in python?
mostly integrating Rust code
@full ether better C
@lean galleon Rust isn't annoying
it's just pointing out when you're wrong
Rust will let you do way more than C
you can't compose software in C
in Rust you can
lean galleon
rust is annoying
vocal basin
segfault isn't C, segfault is bad C
lean galleon
that is my opinion after using it for a few months
@versed heath
try running this
pipx install flappybird
vocal basin
borrow checker is great
if you understand borrow checker, you will write better C and C++
if you don't understand the borrow checker, I don't trust you to write C/C++/Zig
Zig is the next iteration of C
C++ is dead end
Rust fixes where C++ went wrong
lean galleon
fair
vocal basin
Rust allows you to keep less things in mental context at a time
C++ has way more things you need/can know
all the design mistakes of it
all the implicit constructor/operator behaviours
Rust has lifetimes, C++ has lifetime disasters
but, yes, if you want to compile C, the modern recommendation is to use either C++ or Zig
vocal basin
(Clang includes C++ compilation)
C++ Core Guidelines state to compile/write C as C++, even if you don't use C++ features
unless you explicitly need the code to be compilable where C++ isn't
if you want C with without unsafety, then the choice is Go
if you want access to C libraries from a user-friendly environment, Python
vocal basin
<@282032957827317771> Rust isn't annoying
as for the learning curve... yes, learning is supposed to be hard
a very unfortunate truth about how human brains operate
another reason why I don't believe in "AI for learning"
vocal basin
as for the learning curve... yes, learning is supposed to be hard
(as, like, this is scientifically backed)
empirically
hard truth, acceptance of which comes through pain
(obviously the difficulty must not come from esotericism/gatekeeping/snobbism)
lean galleon
i think i have learned enough things to know how learning works
@fast gyro
can you drop the org links here
vocal basin
i think i have learned enough things to know how learning works
whereas I'll just side with science ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fast gyro
can you drop the org links here
lean galleon
okay fait enough
how about i don't dispute that learning rust would be effective
but that i dont see it as a good time investment for me
vocal basin
yeah, that's completely normal
if you don't see, like, 10 obvious reasons for you to want to use Rust, you won't be able to motivate yourself through learning it comprehensively, only certain parts will be worth so
@full ether was it you that needs streaming perms?
full ether
async with client_session.get(f"{self.quote_api_base}/quote", params=params) as response:
lean galleon
i see the reasons, but i dont work in large teams that work on low level software for example, and i am more productive with zig and python
full ether
<@553259247853633546> was it you that needs streaming perms?
yes
vocal basin
!stream 553259247853633546
full ether
What I am wondering is how does the params var work on the .get on the second one?
wise cargoBOT
✅ @full ether can now stream until <t:1742594047:f>.
somber heath
I've never used aiohttp, though, so I'll let this stand as my contribution.
full ether
oh I get 5 minutes lmao
somber heath
oh I get 5 minutes lmao
Five minutes during which you can begin to stream.
The stream may persist beyond that point.
vocal basin
a very unfortunate truth about how human brains operate
context:
within reasonable limits of learning difficulty, feeling of effectiveness and ease of learning negatively correlate to how much the person actually learns
full ether
token_info : Dict = await response.json()
raw_amount = int(amount * (10 ** int(token_info.get("decimals", 9))))
How does this .get work here? I have a value in token_info
I can get it through the .get method
but what is the 9 signifying here?
vocal basin
token_info : Dict = await response.json()
raw_amount = int(amoun...
have you tried just using token_info["decimals"]?
vocal basin
but what is the 9 signifying here?
default value, when the value isn't present in the dict
what Python version are you using?
full ether
well, yes I did but then python complained but I can use the .get method on dictionaries though right?
vocal basin
that typehint is outdated
full ether
default value, when the value isn't present in the dict
is this the feature from the get method?
vocal basin
is this the feature from the get method?
yes
full ether
that typehint is outdated
oh wow why dont they update it?
vocal basin
.get without a default value provided means default is None
vocal basin
oh wow why dont they update it?
you should be using either dict or TypedDict
!d typing.TypedDict
wise cargoBOT
full ether
oh, do i have to pip install typing?
vocal basin
oh, do i have to pip install typing?
it's built-in
you're already importing Dict from it
presumably
vocal basin
i see the reasons, but i dont work in large teams that work on low level softwar...
yeah, productivity depends a lot on the context
full ether
Can I keep my live up? Or do I have to shut it down?
vocal basin
@full ether it doesn't auto-stop
only if you mute/deafen/do whatever does it stop automatically
Discord is a bit unpredictable about it
vocal basin
yeah, productivity depends a lot on the context
my experience with Rust is that it's extremely productive except for its compile times
even if you completely brute-force your way through without applying much thought to it
for, like, especially dumb simple stuff that clap, serde, sqlx, axum make even simpler
@full ether httpx is like async-able requests
full ether
I have been aiohttp
vocal basin
you can do what aiohttp client does as well
aiohttp is ancient and mostly sticks to its legacy/slightly different from the rest principles
aiohttp server, for example, is not ASGI
because, when aiohttp added server support, there was no ASGI
full ether
Well, I am working with simple get post requests aiohttp has been really efficent
woeful salmon
@wind raptor my gpu got fried so i've just doing work (and some sketching) for like 5 days straight now, its just wake up, code (maybe sketch a little), sleep xD
vocal basin
"what lack of gaming does to a person"?
woeful salmon
to be fair i had maybe 2 hours of gaming the week before it got fried... and 60 hours in blender...
vocal basin
@wise loom if the issue is worked on already officially, someone should be assigned to it
otherwise it's not you to blame for doing it
I don't ask, I don't get PRs rejected, idk what you're doing wrong
woeful salmon
I don't ask, I don't get PRs rejected, idk what you're doing wrong
try fixing old abandoned vim plugins to make them actually useful... i've ended up creating my own whole plugins because those people just don't accept any pull requests and ignore issues forever
vocal basin
well, ignoring is a separate case
if the project is dead, there is no point in asking either
I didn't get my PR to abi-stable rejected, there is no one to reject it
it can be however messy and unscoped, no one will care
I decided on basically making a fork before I even started cleaning up code
woeful salmon
yeah but since i started writing cpp more and more there's so much functionality missing from clangd that was in separate plugins that don't work anymore...
vocal basin
I didn't get my PR to `abi-stable` rejected, there is no one to reject it
and, yes, that's the only time I did ask
no one answered, no one ever will
the only person needing the change is me
woeful salmon
oh 😮 yeah then its probably better to just fork it and keep the change on your fork
lean galleon
vocal basin
most my PRs are near-single-line fixes
vocal basin
I once had a maintainer introduce a typo in my changes which broke it
lean galleon
amazing
lean galleon
i mean i have merged a pr before CI finishes after a trivial change
and then regretted it
found a bug in cpython
woeful salmon
i'mma go sleep now almost 4 am 🙂 goodnight people
lean galleon
i have japanese class at 8 in the morning, and it is 4 now
perhaps it is time to drop
wind raptor
i'mma go sleep now almost 4 am 🙂 goodnight people
Have an awesome one!! Good seeing you!
vocal basin
I don't like this new separate important section in yt notifications
breaks sorting of what I saw/didn't see
the only good thing was a single funny screenshot back when I first encountered it
wind raptor
vocal basin
*okay you have convinced me, I'm opening Brick Rigs again*
I'm a bit scared to unpause the game because I know what's about to happen lmao
*instantly explodes*
I see someone's really getting ready for their Japanese lesson
lean galleon
indeed
lean galleon
they dont have one
vocal basin
non-profit?
vocal basin
company behind pydantic is turning into a proper business slowly
through their log thing
vocal basin
<@221417491136512010> maybe it was a vibe engineered headset
lmao
lean galleon
lmfao
vocal basin
I just saw a Vista/Win7 window menu bar on Windows 10
tf happened
primal shadow
the back end
vocal basin
I really want less meaningless AI discussions, this is literally same appeal as gossip/fashion bullshit talks, what an actual waste of time
mystic river
I really want less meaningless AI discussions, this is literally same appeal as ...
this current covo? yes
lean galleon
discussion slop
vocal basin
"we have nothing tot talk about, so we will talk about nothing"
where was BeOS developed again?
hmm
US too
okay, nvm, there's Linux anyway as a counter-example
lean galleon
lol
vocal basin
where was BeOS developed again?
I thought there was some Scandinavian influence in that one too
"do you write CSS? yes -> you're doing frontend, no -> you're doing backend", the "simple classification"
lean galleon
i like css
vocal basin
I don't like any of the three terms (those 2 + full-stack)
vocal basin
systems engineering generally means engineering considering the system both as a whole and in details
i.e. not living a happy abstract life
paper wolf
what is the best way of generation prime number for rsa ???
vocal basin
witness primes
lean galleon
sieve of eratosthenes like a chad
paper wolf
I have 0 idea what are those
vocal basin
if you can
lean galleon
"are you far left or far right" sir i am far ting
lean galleon
herman miller type inference
vocal basin
given how many Millers there are, what is the probability it's the same
vocal basin
I have 0 idea what are those
do you know what a safe prime is, at least?
I think we had RSA as part of school program I studied
as formally proven as children brains could comprehend
lean galleon
so not at all
paper wolf
do you know what a safe prime is, at least?
no 😭
vocal basin
but we did not describe how numbers are defined constructively
paper wolf
I think we had RSA as part of school program I studied
our math is actually still at solving basic algebra (college)
vocal basin
oh, look, it's weekend by UTC so I can show cursed Brick Rigs stuff to @main comet
the funny missiles
primal shadow
lean galleon
マサチューセッツ
wise cargoBOT
✅ @main comet can now stream until <t:1742602574:f>.
vocal basin
5 minutes?
5 minutes to start
lean galleon
ic
vocal basin
about cursor: #voice-chat-text-0 message
somber heath
@midnight agate 👍
Whether you can get a word in or not, that's another matter!
@vernal apex 👋
paper wolf
I still dont get how you create "safe-primes" 😭
wise cargoBOT
primal shadow
vocal basin
are they drunk
vocal basin
or is it just a language barrier thing
short forge
hey can i stream in voice ?
woeful blaze
Hello
spark girder
I wonder if it knows hata
Don't use hata. It's very... odd. It doesn't quite work right everytime and the implementation of kwargs in basically everything as well as typing is just super buggy.
In classes everything is perfect and you can call Bot.name without a second thought but if you want variable based bots the construct degrades into your type checker and linting tool saying "Idk wtf you're doing but you're doing it wrong."
woeful blaze
Hello
@somber heath am I coming in clear?
Or even my discord so that I have everything inputted correctly @somber heath
wind raptor
!stream 1318626588560199692
wise cargoBOT
✅ @woeful blaze can now stream until <t:1742620793:f>.
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> do my settings look correct
I'm not in a position to reliably know.
fluid sphinx
I could not hear you
somber heath
Are you testing via the Discord tool?
woeful blaze
Yes
woeful blaze
...
fluid sphinx
If it works there it should work
woeful blaze
I don't know if I'm going too soft I'm almost screaming at my computer to tell you the truth
fluid sphinx
yes
mystic river
I don't know if I'm going too soft I'm almost screaming at my computer to tell y...
we never said you were lying
fluid sphinx
can I get perms to talk
mystic river
!voice
wise cargoBOT
fluid sphinx
I know that I have done 50 txts
and the other req
I have been here 10 times
yes
"You have sent less than 50 messages."
haha
ok
each session?
no
last times
previous
its wrong
woeful blaze
we never said you were lying
I'm sorry I know but I'm just trying to work on this so I don't have to hold my phone to my ear and have somebody when I'm talking to blow out my left ear drum or right eardrum sorry I just it's been a long day
mystic river
I'm sorry I know but I'm just trying to work on this so I don't have to hold my ...
I understand, you should take a break man, I think you should call it and return the mic to get your money back and invest in a higher quality mic that will last you longer
mystic river
I'm sorry I know but I'm just trying to work on this so I don't have to hold my ...
and we are unable to assist no matter how much you ask, i am sorry
woeful blaze
I know I just it was an entire half an hour just to drive there due to the train that runs through the town that I live in to get to the other town which carried these headphones which is not much but it takes another 30 minutes get across and back to the town that I live in and I'd rather not have to wait through the train because those people are not calm that I'm behind and I'm in front of
mystic river
I know I just it was an entire half an hour just to drive there due to the train...
You can order a better microphone online
fluid sphinx
<@373121697957543946> I use to write ASM
@woeful blaze what app or sim is that?
lol
backhand complement
nice
mystic river
Amazon has one day and even same day delivery options nowadays, i would take advantage of that
fluid sphinx
one I have voip I can fix your mic issues
oh its working
sounds good
to me
me too
what is a store?
47
ASM x Demo = FUN
-=50=-
woeful blaze
@mystic river:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0nv-b_-VrvQ&si=6Q4aLVv2saY3EFPG
What my brain thinks is calming
astral coral
@somber heath Sandwich?
hehe 2 downloads :L
hmmm there's no feedback system ¬¬
just downloads ¬¬
lavish rover
why wasn't i informed of fun game!!
lavish rover
sorry lol that was directed at @wind raptor
astral coral
oh ahahahahahhahaha
my bad
sorrry
looooooooooooooooool
its not even the last sat of march ¬¬
OMG a psychology and neuroscience degree IS good for something :L
spark girder
So I’ve just learned that by including a vector database in your model you can theoretically skyrocket the model’s context window from whatever it is to whatever the size of your vector DB is. Cause it’s context window is like the short term memory and the DB is the long term slow process memory
It’s like comparing the recent memories to your childhood
Llama 3.2 with a 2TB context window would be cool asf
Responses would be slower than death but still
astral coral
yeah, I was about to ask
also a psychology and neuroscience degree really is good for nothing ¬¬
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> Sandwich?
Yes.
astral coral
filling?
lyric cliff
Hi
astral coral
hey lego
lyric cliff
Does anybody know how to code
lyric cliff
astral coral
yeah, what do you need?
lyric cliff
yeah, what do you need?
I know some words like print input
but I need help with else
And if else
and the other ones
astral coral
python?
lyric cliff
yeah
astral coral
have you got indentations down?
lyric cliff
have you got indentations down?
What do you mean
astral coral
if True:
print("Statement is True")
else:
print("Statement is False")
I don’t know that