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primal shadow
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I see you reworded this

spark girder
primal shadow
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And what definition of life are we using?

astral coral
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he's persuasive to a superficial mind

woeful blaze
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Hello

spark girder
rugged root
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Yo, Mech

primal shadow
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Doesn't sound very.... INDEPENDENT to me

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nice change

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like it

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I see you found the flaw

spark girder
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I'm tired, you're gonna half to slow down cause I cannot speed up rn.

primal shadow
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I don't have to do anything ๐Ÿ™‚

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I do what I want my guy

astral coral
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urgh

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rich dad poor dad

rugged root
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Let's stay civil, please

astral coral
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I know that book

spark girder
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I'm not personally against abortion, I just think that there are times where it is and isn't ok.

astral coral
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I'd read Andrew Tates book but as a comedic fiction

spark girder
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If you chose to be an idiot and you chose to be unsafe and you have that child, that is on you. You cannot take back taking a life, we should not take back making life in this situation. If you had no say in the production in that child (yk what I mean) then by all means seek medical treatment. If you are going to suffer medically because of the production of that child, you a currently breathing, fully developed person have the right to live.

primal shadow
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Not my body, not my choice.

spark girder
primal shadow
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Lol

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I have zero rights to the uterus of another human

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Just as involved, is that like saying both sides are the same so I don't vote?

spark girder
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It's not the uterus, it's a featus made of your genetic material.

whole bear
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"instead of throwing your child into the trash can, we thank you in advance to put him in this comfy box"

upper basin
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I'm running out of rooms to run to.

vocal basin
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your lack

astral coral
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Oof

primal shadow
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" just as involved" in carrying a new life for 9 months?

rugged root
# spark girder I'm not personally against abortion, I just think that there are times where it ...

Scenario that does happen: A single woman is denied abortion. She then has to raise a child on her own, paying additional childcare and other costs. Both the child and mother suffer for this. Now, if the abortion was allowed, that woman would have the possibility of having the child when she is in a financially better position, making sure that they both have a higher quality of life and not putting themselves in a financial crisis. Which one sounds better?

primal shadow
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Condoms are 100%?

spark girder
primal shadow
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100% agree

rugged root
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Drunken one night stand?

vocal basin
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@spark girder I suggest you to shut the fuck up

rugged root
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Unintentional?

primal shadow
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No one is going for abortion as the primary form of contraception.

rugged root
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This is digging into a more and more combative argument rather than discussion.

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I would indeed apprciate it if we shifted this

spark girder
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I am being in no way combative, but I do agree Hemlock.

rugged root
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Thank you

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AF, you and Chris are in charge. I have some errands to do for work

spark girder
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I'm glad this conversation ended better than mine and korsty's earlier. That was not fun

rugged root
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Oh trust me, I would love to get deeper into this

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I absolutely would

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But this isn't the place nor the time

spark girder
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I don't doubt it, I just don't think it's healthy for any of us here or now.

spark girder
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Well, anyway drive safe!

rugged root
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Cheers

primal shadow
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Here I thought a good chunk of AAA titles use their own engines...

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Is there evidence that "most" use unity?

upper basin
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I think most use unreal these days.

primal shadow
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Check out pyweek winners

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they do it in a week

spark girder
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A lot do, some use unity or unreal engine some make their own because they're insanely good at what they do.

primal shadow
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"Most serious" game devs? Again, any stats?

upper basin
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We don't do that here.

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Remove it please.

spark girder
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Currently some of the top games on the market using Unity would be Genshin, Escape from Tarkov, Cities Skyline, and Fall Guys.

primal shadow
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@wind raptor @vocal basin

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up about 4 messages

vocal basin
primal shadow
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The steamm scam

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from the new guy

spark girder
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Type shit

primal shadow
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Ooh, they're talking again

upper basin
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Scam requires some ingenuity.

vocal basin
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!cleanban 1226220494743797885

wise cargoBOT
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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @steel sorrel permanently.

vocal basin
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presumably, given they just joined and they were typing, it's not a compromised account

spark girder
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Just a moron being a moron

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Have a good day y'all

upper basin
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Wo ah. Got it.

primal shadow
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7 is good?

whole bear
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this is more than one frame

upper basin
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"Calm ye horsies mate!"

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MW 2022

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Call of Duty : Modern Warfare II (2022)

astral coral
upper basin
vocal basin
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@wind raptor have you seen the last thing I did to the conditions level?

astral coral
vocal basin
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situation:

vocal basin
wind raptor
primal shadow
vocal basin
primal shadow
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upright

wind raptor
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Nice

astral coral
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"You are a game master, generate a complex scenario and allow the user to come up with creative solutions to them, remember the players actions and rate them on it. Come up with 30 ideas and have them conclude on the last 5"

unique wyvern
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A multi-user dungeon (MUD, ), also known as a multi-user dimension or multi-user domain, is a multiplayer real-time virtual world, usually text-based or storyboarded. MUDs combine elements of role-playing games, hack and slash, player versus player, interactive fiction, and online chat. Players can read or view descriptions of rooms, objects, ot...

vocal basin
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gyroscopes not food pieces

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diagonal parking

unique wyvern
vocal basin
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very easy to implement, especially in APL

life โ† {โŠƒ1 โต โˆจ.โˆง 3 4 = +/ +โŒฟ ยฏ1 0 1 โˆ˜.โŠ– ยฏ1 0 1 โŒฝยจ โŠ‚โต}
upper basin
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@rugged root You left AGAIN?

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After I waited eons?

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You wound me sir.

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Ekhhh

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dying sounds

primal shadow
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oof , I unmuted and forgot to undeafen

primal shadow
vocal basin
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it's SE1

primal shadow
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Ah

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It looked very similar

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explains a lot

astral coral
unique wyvern
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A JAR ("Java archive") file is a package file format typically used to aggregate many Java class files and associated metadata and resources (text, images, etc.) into one file for distribution.
JAR files are archive files that include a Java-specific manifest file. They are built on the ZIP format and typically have a .jar file extension.

vocal basin
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dtrace

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especially if you're on Windows because it's easy to install there

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had to dig the car out of a hole agaiin

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just dtrace all syscalls

upper basin
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I can imagine you as an astronaut just excitedly playing with an rc car, then getting it stuck, and then giggling and running to flip it back, taking three steps back and driving it again.

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God, I remember I had this one rc car that would crumple when you crashed it like it was in an accident, and then it would repair itself by changing back into its original shape.

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I have been trying to find it for 15 years now.

vocal basin
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@wind raptor @unique wyvern Eclipse is newer than IntelliJ IDEA

cinder mirage
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hi

astral coral
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hey

primal shadow
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Let it jump

vocal basin
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thought of that too

primal shadow
unique wyvern
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JD-Eclipse

astral coral
unique wyvern
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Help -> Install New Software -> Add -> Archive

vocal basin
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some part of the rover fell off

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probably not important

vocal basin
primal shadow
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Ooh, got quiet

primal shadow
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who needed it anyways

primal shadow
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Is Turing Complete... complete?

vocal basin
primal shadow
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What was missing?

primal shadow
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SE sounds like a good idea, been wondering what to play, and I think they just had a nice update

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It's been a bit

vocal basin
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somehow

primal shadow
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lol

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I see why you fixed it

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important part

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always fun to debug

whole bear
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@astral coral hello, how is it going

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fine, what are you doing right now?

astral coral
whole bear
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I see, so when do you plan on releasing your game guessly?

astral coral
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it's not a "guessing" game, I just wanna experiment how well a low-end LLM can fair as a dialog and state management system in a RPG

whole bear
# astral coral

Ah, now I understand. You were drawing for a while and you said you were working on a game

astral coral
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yeah, I'm still working on it

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but pyweek is happening tomorrow I think

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so I paused the game for now

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and working on this

whole bear
astral coral
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I don't expect to "win" anything, it's an excuse to experiment new systems

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Godot

whole bear
astral coral
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I recommend everyone to use Godot

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yes Godot Engine

whole bear
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Ok, I downloaded it and I have a normal coding experience, I think I can make something, the only problem is that my creativity is a little bad

astral coral
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hmmm keep experimenting, find a style, expand on it ๐Ÿ™‚

whole bear
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Which game genres are more prominent in this period?

astral coral
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if you're looking to sell your games, I recommend finding gaps or needs in the industry and working from there, this can be like a "how I would do X better" and then follow up with trends, popular indie titles, see what worked and what doesn't

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think MVP too

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Minimal Viable Product

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like the game I'm working on is a roguelike dugeon crawler

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that's its MVP

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if you want your game to do well

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you'll need to learn marketing

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and potentially sign up with a publisher

jade mountain
somber heath
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@pale falcon ๐Ÿ‘‹

pale falcon
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Hi

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Both of you

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Are you guys building a game together?

somber heath
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@opaque surge ๐Ÿ‘‹

astral coral
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LLMs, gotta get 'em all -

opaque surge
somber heath
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@errant sand ๐Ÿ‘‹

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@south spade ๐Ÿ‘‹

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@kindred hinge ๐Ÿ‘‹

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@silver hound ๐Ÿ‘‹

oblique hollow
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@errant sand why are you just chillen here?

somber heath
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@dusky comet ๐Ÿ‘‹

dusky comet
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hello @somber heath

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how goes it everyone?

dusky comet
gentle flint
somber heath
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@dapper wraith ๐Ÿ‘‹

peak depot
vocal basin
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@peak depot so only approximately Greek

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same time period, almost same location, almost same people but not exactly, iirc

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ah, no

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it's a Greek invention export to Sicily lmao

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I thought it was on some small island not a giant one

peak depot
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Iยดm playing the Spartan/Athens period and saw it in the game

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the bull

vocal basin
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yeah, it has quite weird history

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it was a very specific single unit produced for one specific island tyrant allegedly

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yeah, that one is more of a Greek island

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and the bull device is closer to Italy

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which was quite convenient for the Roman Empire later on

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so there's a mythical bull person living on one giant Island, Crete, and bull torture device on another, Sicily

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Crete is really, like, not small, doesn't fit the look of a "remote island that people gent sent off to be fed to the monster"

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@gentle flint "at least it's a happy <...> rate"

vocal basin
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"does it really have a colour when no one can see it?"

lime fractal
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.

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How long does dis take

vocal basin
lime fractal
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Emm

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Its a jbl headset only

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And it lags on plugin

vocal basin
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unplug it

lime fractal
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Done

vocal basin
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and restart the computer

lime fractal
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Its jbl error it say

vocal basin
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?

lime fractal
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Dis thing program did it

vocal basin
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does the computer start normally now?

lime fractal
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The jbl program

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Ye it start normal rn

vocal basin
lime fractal
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When i plug headset in it lags alot for 20 sec

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Ow

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Its all usbs

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When i plugin headset mic or all it lags

vocal basin
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obvious recommendation 1: never buy anything JBL

lime fractal
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Only when the jbl headset is in and i unplug someting it lags

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Noting lags when the jbl is not in

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How fix rn

vocal basin
lime fractal
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Jbl is decent

vocal basin
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it's not

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and never was

lime fractal
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So i cant fix it?

vocal basin
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does it happen with any other device plugged in?

lime fractal
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No

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When jbl is in and i plug a usb in it lags

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When not in and plugin mic or mouse it doesnt lag

vocal basin
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@worldly yarrow I don't know how it works either

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will take quite some time to figure out

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  • I'll need to leave in 6 minutes to go to a meeting
lime fractal
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So i buy new headset?

worldly yarrow
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all good ty anyways

vocal basin
astral coral
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just made another :L

golden sonnet
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hii ๐Ÿ‘‹

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i have problem importing a file :/

peak depot
primal shadow
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Good morning

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day

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evening

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๐Ÿคท

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it goes

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always a pain

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they update and deprecate

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and the app stores demand a certain API level

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so there is no staying on an old version

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Yea, no pick a version and stick with it

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Well, our app lives on

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So we just have to break it and fix it every few months

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YEa, one is in production

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other is pre release

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What do y'all use for your SQL Interaction? Any special program or just a console or what?

somber heath
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@astral coral Sandwich consumed.

astral coral
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what filling?

somber heath
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Butter, lettuce, furikake.

astral coral
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noice noice

primal shadow
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ah

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I've been enjoying dbeaver

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instead of phpmyadmin

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Are they free?

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I know JB loves $

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terrible thing to love

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lol

astral coral
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you guys know the band infected mushrooms?

somber heath
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That was silly of them.

primal shadow
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Then you get a high paying job

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and licenses are hahahaha

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poor people problems

astral coral
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peasentry

primal shadow
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What are you getting

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MBA?

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Masters of Coolness

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4 years for senior?

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Ooh, I'm pushing 3 years in 3 months or s

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but I've been a "senior developer" for a few years here too, which is why titles mean jack

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How do I cancel async calls?

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js

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no

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the UI allows many things clicked

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when you click a thing, it gets info from he server

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but you can click a different thing

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which puts that things info in the same place

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I only want the most recent one to go

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yea

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since otherwise it flashes with bad data

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while those calls return

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Found an abortcontroller

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it's in a function

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that gets fired and forgotten

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boss is out

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I think it is this new AbortController()

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Me neither, lol

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yea

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so I have a .then

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But, it waits for the call to finish

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my current work around is track the id at the top

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and when it returns it checks

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but that's still

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waits on each call

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in order

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I want to kill the call

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but this abort guy might work

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yea

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it's no longer relevant

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But, my new doctor should be able to hit that red button

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Of course

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that's why we're here

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to talk shit and learn

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Where do I pass this signal in though, I'm passing a list of things, is it like, signal:signal?

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ok, it is

somber heath
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@swift iron ๐Ÿ‘‹

swift iron
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Yo ๐Ÿ‘‹

primal shadow
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Yea

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but I can't make the aborter in the ufnction

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since I wouldn't have access to iut

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unless it was returned

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in which case

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the asyn call is complete

primal shadow
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Maybe if I just store a bunch of em

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and then abort all

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That might

swift iron
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Guys can u guide me ??

primal shadow
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probably

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yea, they're all async

wind raptor
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async function get() {
  const controller = new AbortController();
  const request = new Request("https://example.org/get", {
    signal: controller.signal,
  });

  const response = await fetch(request);
  controller.abort();
  // The next line will throw `AbortError`
  const text = await response.text();
  console.log(text);
}
somber heath
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Do you have a specific question?

swift iron
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Yes, I want guidance from you about what to should I do in python after learning basics ?

somber heath
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!resources

wise cargoBOT
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Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

somber heath
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!kindling

wise cargoBOT
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Kindling Projects

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somber heath
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How long is a piece of string?

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Explore. Experiment. Study. Practice.

wind raptor
somber heath
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When you get stuck, ask questions.

primal shadow
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BAH

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aborting doesn't speed things up

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the server still finishes the calls

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lol

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killed th ecalls, but the final call still took 5 seconds instead of 1

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5/6, it's a 2 call guy

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Ended up making an AbortController per call

swift iron
primal shadow
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throw em in an array that's globally available

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and when I call the function again, abort all aborters and trash em

somber heath
primal shadow
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Yea

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I think the server is still running the queries

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well, they go on click

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then the frontend stops waiting

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but the backend has no idea

swift iron
primal shadow
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Pyweek starts Sunday?

swift iron
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@somber heath Yeah but my problem is when I write code I just got blank mind that what should write after that and I think what things I can do to improve my code and make it more readable and functional.

somber heath
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!pep8

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PEP 8

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More information:

somber heath
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@full skiff ๐Ÿ‘‹

full skiff
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hello pop !!

swift iron
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Yeah it's true I just got frustrated every time during writing code and when I make same mistake again and again

somber heath
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!e py print('Hello, world.')

wise cargoBOT
somber heath
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!e ```py
print('Hello, world.')
print('Goodbye.')
```

full skiff
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@somber heath is this a beginner server ? just to know

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@somber heath oook good to know ty !!

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can i share something ?

wind raptor
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@primal shadow I sent you a DM. Not sure if you got it or it got spam blocked

somber heath
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!code

wise cargoBOT
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Formatting code on Discord

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```py
print('Hello world!')
```

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swift iron
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Yeah I will share my some program which I made in my journey

full skiff
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i am working on a IA app wich execute some commands and i want to add some voice recognition

swift iron
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So do I need to share here or in your dm ??

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import random
random__num = random.randint(1,100)
print(random__num)
score = 1
print("--------- Welcome to random number guessing game ---------")

while True:
guess = int(input("\nEnter the number u want to guess: \n"))

if guess > 0 and guess < 100:

if guess == random__num:
  print("\n------Horray------")
  print(f"\n You have guessed correct number in {score} guess.")
  print("\n------------------------------")
  break
elif guess > random__num:
  print("\n-> You have guessed a higher number. Guess lower number.")
  print("\n------------------------------")
  score += 1
elif guess < random__num:
  print("\n-> You have guessed a lower number. Guess higher number.")
  print("\n------------------------------")
  score += 1

else:
print("\nInvalid input!. Guess number under 1 to 100. ")
print("\n------------------------------")

vocal basin
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did you put __ in a variable name

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as in in the middle

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that's very unusual

somber heath
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@jovial zinc ๐Ÿ‘‹

swift iron
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No I don't why my code is showing like that

vocal basin
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read through the embed

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if you have embeds enabled

full skiff
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@somber heath take a look at this :

wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
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@somber heath we've seen people show screenshots with the embed not showing; allegedly they are indeed disableable

swift iron
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Ohhk soory I am new in python discord so I didn't know that

vocal basin
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the key part there is:

```py
print("Hello, World!")
```

swift iron
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
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```py
print('Hello.')
print('Goodbye.')
```

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!paste

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swift iron
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import random
number = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0]
phone_number = []

def create_phone_number():
   for i in range(10):
      phone_number.append(random.choice(number))

   return''.join(map(str,phone_number))
     
    
print(create_phone_number())
full skiff
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@somber heath check the code ive sent to ya !!

swift iron
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Wow I didn't know that I code do like this

somber heath
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!e py import random choices = random.choices(range(10), k=10) print(choices)

wise cargoBOT
swift iron
somber heath
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!e ```py
choices = [7, 8, 6, 5, 2, 2, 5, 8, 9, 4]
as_string = ''.join(str(v) for v in choices)
print(as_string)

wise cargoBOT
swift iron
somber heath
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!d random.choices

wise cargoBOT
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random.choices(population, weights=None, *, cum_weights=None, k=1)```
Return a *k* sized list of elements chosen from the *population* with replacement. If the *population* is empty, raises [`IndexError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#IndexError).

If a *weights* sequence is specified, selections are made according to the relative weights. Alternatively, if a *cum\_weights* sequence is given, the selections are made according to the cumulative weights (perhaps computed using [`itertools.accumulate()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.accumulate)). For example, the relative weights `[10, 5, 30, 5]` are equivalent to the cumulative weights `[10, 15, 45, 50]`. Internally, the relative weights are converted to cumulative weights before making selections, so supplying the cumulative weights saves work.
vocal basin
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cumulative weights require less preprocessing by the function

swift iron
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Ok I get it .. I didn't know this

vocal basin
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(it generates them internally)

swift iron
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Btw from where I can learn that things??

vocal basin
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!d string.digits

wise cargoBOT
swift iron
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Any resources you know ??

vocal basin
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!resources

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Resources

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swift iron
rugged root
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The digit widget

somber heath
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!e py import random, string choices = random.choices(string.digits, k=10) result = ''.join(choices) print(result)

wise cargoBOT
somber heath
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@craggy wraith ๐Ÿ‘‹

swift iron
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@somber heath Thanks for your advice.. I need to go

somber heath
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Breakfast burrito. Morning tea burrito. Lunch burrito. Afternoon tea burrito. Dinner burrito. Dessert burrito. Supper burrito.

swift iron
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Let's talk some other time .. Till then biee and it's nice meeting you guys .

alpine crater
vocal basin
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I think they mean years

alpine crater
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

vocal basin
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I never updated it

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almost exactly 4 years ago

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I used to participate in CTFs

somber heath
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"Vomit Suite" didn't pass committee.

rugged root
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FartBarf

vocal basin
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I don't do bug bounty

alpine crater
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xD

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I loved CTF in overwatch

paper wolf
#

uh guys I'm making a emulator of a custom CPU I'm making is running each component on different thread a good idea ??? ๐Ÿ’€

dry jasper
#

Cyber Apokalypse is soon

#

From HTB

paper wolf
alpine crater
#

5

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overwatch changed to 5 per team

#

(tho tbf idk if thats different in ctf)

paper wolf
#

the what???

#

oh no

alpine crater
#

we had to pay for threading before /j

paper wolf
#

3.12

vocal basin
alpine crater
#

(unless your emulation is somehow IO heavy)

paper wolf
#

hmmm

vocal basin
alpine crater
#

in rust we have threaded async

paper wolf
#

well all the task never have share memory

#

they will only write on their files

vocal basin
#

asyncio might be too determinisitc for simulating something that in the real world doesn't work very predictably

alpine crater
#

well it cant

#

rust enforces the use of mutex

paper wolf
#

and other file will only read on other files other than its own

alpine crater
#

(or other lock types)

vocal basin
#

don't do files then, use queues

#

from multiprocessing

paper wolf
#

how gil realy works???? what it prevents???

alpine crater
#

I really love RwLocks, such a neat thing

paper wolf
vocal basin
#

@dry jasper I don't really see a reason for me to do that

#

not really interested in that currently

rugged root
#

@mystic yarrow

alpine crater
#

yep in gil python threading vs async is basically wether you want control of when context switching happens

primal shadow
#

hello

paper wolf
#

well the goal is for each component to run by them self

mystic yarrow
paper wolf
#

maybe a generator type

rugged root
primal shadow
#

See, I have permission to talk

#

but choose to not

#

but here I am, actively participating

mystic yarrow
primal shadow
#

ya

#

you need to meet the requirements

#

lol

#

"Over before you know it"

alpine crater
#

in other news, I made a custom rust wasm bench marking tool, because I couldnt find any

mystic yarrow
#

hey Guys I am new to python but I am mern stack developer

#

Now I am building a full-stack application that allows users to upload PDF documents and ask questions regarding the content of these documents. The backend will process these documents and utilize natural language processing to provide answers to the questions posed by the users.

rugged root
#

!resources A Byte of Python

wise cargoBOT
#
Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

paper wolf
#

people say python is a bad language to start with

alpine crater
#

on rust stable ```
inital_dom_50k (iters: 5): 726.56000000ms
deep_dom_100 (iters: 122): 19.97377049ms
mount_events_10k (iters: 26): 220.36153846ms
text_updates_10k (iters: 32): 150.81875000ms

On rust nightly (with the help of specilization) ```
inital_dom_50k (iters: 5): 724.84000000ms
deep_dom_100 (iters: 93): 19.98602151ms
mount_events_10k (iters: 26): 219.49615385ms
text_updates_10k (iters: 32): 128.78125000ms
paper wolf
#

js is not that strict

#

ok java...

primal shadow
#

what is this?

paper wolf
#

I'm super bored guys

vocal basin
#

@somber heath

#

see above

#

embed disabled

mystic yarrow
wise cargoBOT
paper wolf
vocal basin
#

I've just found Avorion has API documentation

#

idk if I want to do something with it

#

possibly

#

I wonder if avorion can de deployed distributed across servers

alpine crater
#

and I just added a nicer breakdown of those times ๐Ÿ˜„ ```
inital_dom_50k (iters: 5): 168.8200ms (with reflow/repaint: 751.1199999999255ms)
deep_dom_100 (iters: 136): 0.6551ms (with reflow/repaint: 66.1654411764706ms)
mount_events_10k (iters: 25): 62.2040ms (with reflow/repaint: 189.5879999999702ms)
text_updates_10k (iters: 34): 7.5500ms (with reflow/repaint: 101.90882352936794ms)

vocal basin
#

I think its architecture allows that

primal shadow
#

I reinstalled on my home desktop, that wiped my settings and... messed up my settings on my work computer?

#

But when I reinstalled

vocal basin
#

it pulls settings from who knows where

primal shadow
#

they were all wiped

vocal basin
#

generally doesn't work

primal shadow
#

why didn't it just restore my old settings?

#

it wiped htem

#

then pushed that wipe to my other PC

#

But soon it will make someone a lot of dollars

vocal basin
#

web resets half the settings on login

primal shadow
#

here come the MBAs and enshittification

#

This is the issue

vocal basin
#

@rugged root wasm wasm wasm

primal shadow
#

MORE MORE MORE MORE

alpine crater
#

this is what selenium and friends is actually made for kids this

primal shadow
#

I think I have to go do some work

paper wolf
#

how's ur UI looks like that

#

*desktop

alpine crater
#

Its hyprland

primal shadow
#

I like needing the break

#

I like that it can fallthrough

vocal basin
#

@rugged root almost worst of both worlds, C#

primal shadow
#

instead of chaining ors

#

looks cleaner

vocal basin
#

you must put break but you can't use fallthrough

primal shadow
#

So the break is there for...

#

syntax purposes?

vocal basin
#

for C purposes

primal shadow
#

mandatory syntax

#

for the sake of syntax

vocal basin
#

each case must escape

primal shadow
#

It doesn't add clarity, just verbosity

#

if there's no fallthrough, why break?

alpine crater
#

and this kids is why we use rust

primal shadow
#

I was thinking this is why I don't use Microsoft Java

#

๐Ÿ™‚

vocal basin
#

quite sure that's a quote from more than one talk

primal shadow
#

I'd google it but...

#

If I remember after I get home I might look into it

vocal basin
#

Summer of Rust

#

talk

#

and some other maybe

#

do you remember m_ou_se's description of usb charging

primal shadow
vocal basin
paper wolf
#

looks pretty

vocal basin
#

block type
the cooler block type

brisk bridge
#

Hi

vocal basin
#

@rugged root secondmonitor (verb)

vocal basin
#

why is there chroot

brisk bridge
#

Chroot?

vocal basin
#

"you can send it to me so I can tell Hemlock he shouldn't look at it anyway"

vocal basin
rugged root
#
assert toSeq(1..15).mapIt(
    if it mod 15 == 0:  "FizzBuzz"
    elif it mod 5 == 0: "Buzz"
    elif it mod 3 == 0: "Fizz"
    else: $it
  ).join(" ").strip == "1 2 Fizz 4 Buzz Fizz 7 8 Fizz Buzz 11 Fizz 13 14 FizzBuzz"
vocal basin
#

$๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น

alpine crater
#

is that a function call? or

#

where did it come from

vocal basin
#

is there .mapThisAndThat

#

method-position macros?

alpine crater
#

feels a bit too magical imo.
was it so hard to have it take a closure

vocal basin
#

I still haven't tried Austral

#

idk if it's even a real language

#

it explicitly has no meta-programming

#

actively prevents it

#

quite sure Haskell has reflection at least on some level

brisk bridge
vocal basin
#

or class derivations at least

#

"I liked installing Alpine so much, should I do it again?"

#

typing in the public SSH key manually

#

then installing docker

alpine crater
#

and you want to do what to it?

vocal basin
#

it's not that detailed, you can just photoshop it out manually

torn yarrow
#

Meow

lime fractal
#

Do i need update someting with usb if i get new motherboard or only bios

vocal basin
#

if you get a new motherboard, you rarely ever need to update bios right after

rugged root
#

Still wise to check, though

lime fractal
#

I got new 1 already and bios was form 2021

rugged root
#

Especially if you're tossing newer hardware on it

lime fractal
#

What i need update rn

#

Only bios?

rugged root
#

I don't know what you've already done, so I can't answer that

lime fractal
#

I put new board in and noting else

alpine crater
#

-# Foxy_Popcorn

vocal basin
#

@rugged root "which of the many HDMIs?"

#

I think my GPU is HDMI+VGA+DP+DP+DP

#

even worse: I have two monitors and I don't use any DPs

rugged root
vocal basin
#

so you can infer that VGA is being used

#

or whatever DVI-d

#

I have no idea actually

lime fractal
#

My 3060 ti graphic i did already

vocal basin
#

I should buy two same monitors to replace current ones

#

current are slightly different in size and very different in colours

lime fractal
#

Thats gone be expensive

vocal basin
#

I'm fine with spending up to $500 total on that

lime fractal
#

I got ultra wide monitor 3440x1440 and its perfect 144 hz

alpine crater
#

my secondary monitor was a "donation" from the local shcool

vocal basin
#

I don't want >60Hz

#

1080p is slightly uncomfortable for me, but mostly because icons feel giant

lime fractal
#

I hate 144 hz rn because all games bug

vocal basin
#

(on default scale)

#

I had to enable blue filter on the newer monitor

#

otherwise pain to look at

#

the one that makes it bluer not the one that filters out blue

lime fractal
#

It say on every game 60 fps and when i unlock it the monitor say its a 60 hz and when i go Windows d it go to 144 hz

vocal basin
#

red/blue eye stress is inversed for me

#

idk why

rugged root
#

Huh, that's strange

lime fractal
#

Fullscreen

rugged root
#

And there's plenty of games that have borderless-windowed

vocal basin
#

also indoor lighting is very painful for me when using the PC

rugged root
#

Would probably fit the bill

lime fractal
#

Minecraft i need program called borderless gaming and everytime i need open and select it the game

#

Thats per 24h around 30 times i need do it or 60 times if server crashes

#

Btw i got dumb idea

#

Lets instal linux on my house

rugged root
#

I have no idea what that means

torn yarrow
#

๐Ÿ

vocal basin
#

I also don't want a >=3840x1080p monitor

#

sometimes I prefer only one enabled

#

what I definitely need is easier brightness control

#

my AOC monitor has exactly one button

#

you press the button
then click until you get to brightness (there is no go other way button)
you wait
you wait
you wait
you wait
then you click/hold to increase brightness (there is no decrease button, it wraps)
you wait
you wait
you wait
you wait
it exits the menu

#

horrible UX

vocal basin
#

single button monitors

#

this one isn't

#

this was a $70 monitor

rugged root
#

These are so absurd

alpine crater
#

why wouldnt it

#

its looks painful to hold

vocal basin
#

what did I do

#

where half the page

#

I fixed it

#

I have J4105

#

you can't run MongoDB on it

#

I have 50~100 containers running on it

#

MongoDB is capped at version 4.4

#

because AVX

#

docker can't fake AVX

#

you need QEMU

#

game not dead?

#

it's been without updates for so many years

#

the only reason I have it installed is because of how broken it is

rugged root
#

Well, in theory it's not dead

#

@tardy merlin Yo

vocal basin
#

2018

#

(when it got updated, not years since last update)

#

@rugged root same for htop

#

illumos allegedly has a better implementation for something like that

#

because it uses a different model

#

too tired to go to the store that's 2 minutes of walking away, time to order

#

also, because of how broken the economy is, it might end up cheaper

rugged root
#

@robust mason Suuuup

vocal basin
#

the other vivek

torn yarrow
#

Hey

rugged root
#

@hybrid patrol Yo

hybrid patrol
#

yo

robust mason
#

Hello

alpine crater
#

no

#

ads are a requirement

#

well one thing with pc gaming is that you can do partial upgrades, like if all you need to play a next gen game is a better gpu you dont have to pay for cpu, ram, etc all over again

rugged root
alpine crater
#

(the consistency in hardware is a really nice benefit from consoles tho)

vocal basin
#

nvm, I'm too lazy to click buttons and too much of a boomer, it's literally easier to go to the store

rugged root
alpine crater
#

I am like 20

vocal basin
#

@spare galleon yes

alpine crater
#

also I hate when games are stuck loading and barely using cpu

#

like this thing is maxing out a single core and has been loading for 10 minutes

#

tbf I am loading a map thats much larger than the game was designed for, but still

spare galleon
#
self.sigma = sigma
self.mu = mu
self.history = []
    def predict_rating(self, lambda_decay=0.1):
  
        if not self.history:
            return self.mu, self.sigma
        weights = np.exp(-lambda_decay * np.arange(len(self.history)))
        recent_performance = sum(w * r for w, r in zip(weights, self.history)) / sum(weights)
 
        sigma_obs = np.std(self.history) if len(self.history) > 1 else self.sigma
        K = self.sigma**2 / (self.sigma**2 + sigma_obs**2)
        mu_pred = self.mu + K * (recent_performance - self.mu)
        sigma_pred = self.sigma * np.sqrt(1 - K)
        
        return mu_pred, sigma_pred```
the fancy predictive part of my openskill sbmm matchmaker
alpine crater
#

almost done

vocal basin
#

!e

from operator import mul
print(list(map(mul, [1, 2, 3], [4, 5, 6])))
wise cargoBOT
alpine crater
#

work isnt work time, smh

torn yarrow
torn yarrow
#

Sigh

spare galleon
rugged root
#

How did I not know this

alpine crater
#

fun fact

vocal basin
#

iterable not container

alpine crater
#

that is the reason you can subclass a map isntance

vocal basin
alpine crater
#

!e ```py
class Foo(map("",6)):6

print(Foo)```

vocal basin
#

the what did you do

wise cargoBOT
alpine crater
#

huh

#

I swear I did this before

#

!e py map(6,6)

wise cargoBOT
# alpine crater !e ```py map(6,6)```

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     map(6,6)
004 | TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable
vocal basin
#

!d itertools.starmap

wise cargoBOT
#

itertools.starmap(function, iterable)```
Make an iterator that computes the *function* using arguments obtained from the *iterable*. Used instead of [`map()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#map) when argument parameters have already been โ€œpre-zippedโ€ into tuples.

The difference between [`map()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#map) and [`starmap()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html#itertools.starmap) parallels the distinction between `function(a,b)` and `function(*c)`. Roughly equivalent to:

```py
def starmap(function, iterable):
    # starmap(pow, [(2,5), (3,2), (10,3)]) โ†’ 32 9 1000
    for args in iterable:
        yield function(*args)
rugged root
#

!e

map("", [6])
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
#

WHAT

vocal basin
#

what what

alpine crater
#

!e ```py
class Foo(map("","")):pass

print(Foo)```

wise cargoBOT
alpine crater
#

there we go

#

you can "subclass" a map instance

rugged root
#

!e

print(list(map("", [6])))
wise cargoBOT
# rugged root !e ```py print(list(map("", [6]))) ```

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(list(map("", [6])))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | TypeError: 'str' object is not callable
alpine crater
#

it fails on the next call, not on the map creation

#

(because what would it call the function with on init?)

#

but yhe fun sub classing quirks, you dont have to subclass classes

rugged root
#

@silent plume Yo

alpine crater
#

!e ```py
import fishhook
@fishhook.hook(str)
def call(self, *args): return "Hello World"
class Foo(map("","")):pass

print(Foo())

wise cargoBOT
rugged root
#

@digital gulch Yo

alpine crater
#

!e ```py
import fishhook
@fishhook.hook(str)
def call(self, *args): return "Hello World"
class Foo(map("","")):pass

print(next(Foo))

wise cargoBOT
alpine crater
#

isnt that cursed

#

no its isnt

#

!pip fishhook

wise cargoBOT
#

Allows for runtime hooking of static class functions

Released on <t:1712268639:D>.

vocal basin
#

why would you ever

#

C++

alpine crater
#

smh, time to rewrite it in rust

vocal basin
#

you're clearly confusing with JS

alpine crater
vocal basin
#

500 millibuckets

vocal basin
#

even the example there shows why you shouldn't mix C++ with anything

#

C# one is sane, yes

spare galleon
alpine crater
rugged root
vocal basin
alpine crater
vocal basin
#

(feature-wise)

#

the only one that stands out is py-cord

#

with a dash, important

#

py-cord has voice input support

#

that's all

rugged root
alpine crater
#

what?

vocal basin
alpine crater
#

I have never looked at clojure so

rugged root
vocal basin
#

if you want something from-scratch, https://www.astil.dev/project/hata/

alpine crater
#

omg

whole bear
#

wtw

vocal basin
#

@spare galleon there might be Haskell

rugged root
#

@whole bear Yo

vocal basin
#

giant page

rugged root
#

Ooooooo

alpine crater
#

!e only pro python devs know why this calls the __call__ added to str ```py
import fishhook

@fishhook.hook(str)
def call(self, *args): return "Hello World"

class Foo(map(100, [1,2,3])):pass
print(next(Foo))

wise cargoBOT
rugged root
#

Oh? Nim?

#

My attention is piqued

vocal basin
#

why is there ๐Ÿด

whole bear
#

wht

vocal basin
vocal basin
#

I hope this does what I think it does, i.e. properly handle shutdown

#

handling docker stop is a nightmare

alpine crater
#

gtg AFoxy_Wave

whole bear
#

Hi

#

Hemlock

#

Going good!

#

How about you?

#

@still herald how's your progress going on in Python?

#

So what you doing now?

#

Oh you're an HR

rugged root
#

AF, have you ever heard of CFML?

vocal basin
#

ColdFusion?

rugged root
#

Yeah

vocal basin
#

obviously, it's, like, critical to Web dev history

whole bear
#

Less talk more work

rugged root
#

no u

vocal basin
#

I'm work

whole bear
#

Ai is 90% hype and 10% reality

spark girder
vocal basin
#

Adobe's Rails

spark girder
#

Ahh

whole bear
#

As long as she earn 6 figure a month in INR

#

it's win for her

vocal basin
rugged root
#

I'm just looking at the various languages that Exercism has stuff for

vocal basin
#

Rails is just a bit fancier, nearly everything is, compared to ASP

whole bear
#

@spark girder Can you read me my chat?

vocal basin
#

and 29% of not adding up to 100%

#

[]+-.,

#

I think a bit more

#

[] is if

#

ah

#

<>

#

<> is move

#

+- is change current cell

#

,. is IO

spark girder
#

[]<>+_.,

rugged root
#

Ah it was 8

#

I knew it

spark girder
vocal basin
#

does brainfuck specify what byte size it expects the system to have

spark girder
#

Not that Iโ€™ve seen but it might

vocal basin
#

at least 7 bits because it has to do with its own syntax at least

#

!charinfo []+-,.<>

wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
#

!charinfo (){}

wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
#

if it used (), it would fit in 6 bits

spark girder
#

Quick google shows that it requires a minimum 8 bit but the compiler will work on 8, 16, 32, or 64

rugged root
#

Okay, so writing the list of ones I'm not sure if AF will know:

  • 8th
  • ABAP
  • Arturo
  • Ballerina
  • Cairo
  • Euphoria
  • jq
  • Pharo
  • Pyret
  • Raku
  • Red
  • Roc
  • Uiua
  • Unison
  • Wren

I know some of these you likely know since we've talked about them before, but I just can't remember WHICH ones we've talked about

vocal basin
#

isn't Raku just Perl

#

Unison I knew even before the (I forgot its name) podcast

whole bear
#

Have you ever heard about bhai lang?

rugged root
#

"It enhances Perl's long term appeal..."

vocal basin
#

Perl 6

whole bear
vocal basin
#

ohno the Uiua

#

wee wuh?

#

I think that's what they had on the front page

#

C++ of Perl

#

Uiua is like another APL

#

from what I remember

slender sierra
#

Hi:)

vocal basin
vocal basin
#

others I probably don't how/have forgotten

#

ABAP sure sounds like something I should know

rugged root
#

Some of the names are fun

vocal basin
#

is ABAP just COBOLified SQL

rugged root
#

Wait, da fuq? Most of these have a little syntax example next to their blurb

#

Ballerina does not have one

rugged root
vocal basin
#

doesn't count

#

though probably CFML doesn't count then either

#
factorial: function [n][
    switch n > 0 -> n * factorial n-1
                 -> 1
] 

loop 1..19 [x]->
    print ["Factorial of" x "=" factorial x]
#

this formatting

#

why

rugged root
vocal basin
#

the what flavoured what

#

ballerina looks like Erlang so much

rugged root
vocal basin
#

from the hello world at least

#

like a weird mix of erlang and whatever else

#

also has ===

#

for storage identity

#

is

#

anyway, I've heard of this language, but not much beyond the general description

rugged root
#
fun to-celsius(f):
  (f - 32) * (5 / 9)
end

for each(str from [list: "Ahoy", "world!"]):
  print(str)
end
#

I love their Hello World

vocal basin
#

@wind raptor @tepid mantle I didn't try solving space invaders, so stopped there

tepid mantle
vocal basin
#

is this another smalltalk

#

oh wait

whole bear
#

Hello

#

Python is like robin and C is batman

vocal basin
#

@wind raptor @tepid mantle also: TIS-100, SHENZHEN I/O, Screeps (both versions)

rugged root
#

I really really want to do Screeps

vocal basin
#

waiting for Kython
it's like Python
but implemented in
K
because no one deserves to understand the code of what they're using

rugged root
#

As I really love Creeper World

whole bear
#

robin came from middle class, python is for general people.
batman came from billionaire family, C is for manic

vocal basin
#

@tepid mantle would you like Java instead?

whole bear
#

t

vocal basin
#

it took 1 week to implement Scheme into Netscape
it took another to reskin it as Java

#

it wasn't an "option"

#

it was born in the browser

#

it wasn't chosen

#

it was not designed

#

it was not planned

whole bear
#

There is Jython

vocal basin
rugged root
whole bear
#

How about mojo?

vocal basin
#

mojo had questionable marketing

#

it might be finally becoming open source

whole bear
#

Java is good lang

#

It's has it's up and down

vocal basin
#

JVM > Java

whole bear
#

Yes

#

But kotlin is based on Java?

#

It uses JVM

vocal basin
#

not necessarily I think

#

afaik Kotlin can target JS also

#

KMP

#

and whatever apple uses

whole bear
#

Swift ain't good!

vocal basin
#

@wind raptor compared to Objective C everything is

whole bear
#

learn objective C

#

Milien got terrified !

vocal basin
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@rugged root would you want to restyle the whole world in Monokai

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I like money, I use every lang to make money - big corp

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@ivory stump I've realised I didn't count all Samsung flash drives last time

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I forgot about the 500GB SD

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so the total count is 8

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Robotics?

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what kind of robotics?

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Can you make waifu??

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I really love Monokai

spring willow
radiant iron
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๐Ÿค”

whole bear
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That was just pillow

spring willow
rugged root
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I hate that I have to keep saying that

whole bear
whole bear
vocal basin
ivory stump
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๐Ÿ‘‹

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With a Z

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This is my stealth mode

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random furious typing

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I did take a peek

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but ultimately the issue is the server kept spinning

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@rugged root Cri

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single -i for plural

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Or like a moose

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or many moose

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Determining the correct plural for chris

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