voice-chat-text-0

[astral coral]

fairs

[gentle flint]

and lots of nasty rocks all over the place

[astral coral]

have you grown shit on your boat before?

[gentle flint]

we don't have a boat anymore sadly

[astral coral]

ahhh thats a shame

[gentle flint]

but no we didn't

[astral coral]

fairs

[gentle flint]

well it cost too much

[astral coral]

well the boat we're getting is for fun, plus my friend can live on it

[gentle flint]

painting a 12 metre mast and 18 metre boat every year is no joke

[astral coral]

but I want to "prep" for the end of civiliation, as kinda thought experiement

sure ahahahahah

[gentle flint]

ah ok
what sort of boat were you thinking of getting?

[astral coral]

we have no idea yet, still early stages, we know generally size and we both are braced for the financial drop itll cost

[gentle flint]

what sort of size are you thinking of then?

[astral coral]

well my mate riverboat is about 5 meters?ish, so somewhere near 10

we're roughing right now

we're looking at boats in spain

but we need to do some sailing training first

and hopefully we'll get like a mates rates thing

but yeah

we have no idea :L

[gentle flint]

had to look up a picture to get an idea

[astral coral]

lol 🙂

[gentle flint]

that's a pretty decently sized boat

[astral coral]

yeah like for one man, her boat is decent

[gentle flint]

large enough for an onboard heads and galley

[astral coral]

but needs work

yeah we want sails for the new boat

[gentle flint]

do you intend to have a blackwater tank?

or are you going to find places where they don't care?

[astral coral]

errmmm these aren't in my specialities, I have no, my friend will know what to look for with stuff like that

[gentle flint]

or where they have toilets onshore?

[gentle flint]

oh ok

[astral coral]

but yeah, I'll want an onboard swewer system, because I plan on growing and it might make good fertiliser

[gentle flint]

you can't really fertilise with fresh sewage
that's asking for bacterial diseases

[astral coral]

I don't really know atm, thats part of these "experiments" I'm doing

ahhhh kk

[gentle flint]

generally they let it stand for ages

onshore

[astral coral]

ahhhhh okay I get you

[gentle flint]

and treat it in all sorts of ways

[astral coral]

yeah

thanks man

I appreciate it

[gentle flint]

good luck with the project

[astral coral]

thank you

[astral coral]

looking at integrating LLMs with Godot? for example in a pre-defined VR scene but have it modify using the LLM as a backend and then having the user generate contexts?

[grave frigate]

does anyone have an open source code for login interface using tkinter

[upper basin]

I would just search it on GitHub.

There'd be tons there.

Or use ChatGPT. This is a rather simple use-case so it should give decent enough results.

Depends on how fancy you want it to be I suppose.

[grave frigate]

aight thanks for the suggestion

[upper basin]

My pleasure.

[teal crystal]

is it your game??

learn golang, it has many support/features/libraries, etc. things for creating cli & this type of things

[somber heath]

Yoy.

[jade mountain]

NO

[somber heath]

Programmer.

[teal crystal]

YES

give it a try if you have time to learn, and then you can have the best of both worlds

[jade mountain]

golang sucks

[somber heath]

Hi, Milien. 😁

[jade mountain]

this server is more a magnet for people who want to convert others who use python over to some other unused obscure or stupid language

[vocal basin]

Go is neither unused nor obscure

but it is indeed stupid by design

that's kind of the point

[teal crystal]

Hi 👋

Finally, you remembered me.

[vocal basin]

also there isn't really that much to "learn" about Go

[jade mountain]

im never leaving python

pygame is my husband

and we have been happily married for over 3 years

[teal crystal]

best is don't stick with one
go with the flow, which helps you more in creating your application
all have their own advantages & disadvantages
no, language is all-rounder

[somber heath]

A magnet, perhaps, but there is a prevailing view on the server that the best tool for a job is the best tool for that job, even if it isn't Python. It's not a competition.

[jade mountain]

i dont need help in creating my application

its fine just the way it is

im not limited by anything

[somber heath]

You are limited by your mortal shell.

@cursive sinew 👋

[vocal basin]

limitation surpassed by using ed

[teal crystal]

sure, np
as your wish, i just want to let you know

bcoz before i haven't seen projects created in go, i also think in the same way that python is turtle but champion

explore new things if possible

[jade mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351956111162347562/1351958939599634462/a_5b98438b9effe85958f397cb29d62930.gif

[somber heath]

Blech.

[upper basin]

At this point I think he just doesn't want your advice Programmer. Don't bother with it.

[teal crystal]

what it means? AI is not that much intelligent to understand it

[teal crystal]

yep
i am just informing him about possibility exists

[upper basin]

You're being kind, he just doesn't see it that way.

Some people prefer to make mistakes and learn like that (which is fine but you'd have to reinvent the wheel alot and make repetitive mistakes) and some prefer to short-cut it by listening to others' experiences.

[somber heath]

@signal torrent 👋

[placid jackal]

Made the arithmetic thing smol in turing complete

[somber heath]

The world is replete with wonders.

[vocal basin]

airthmetic engine?

that looks like too many gates

[placid jackal]

Yeah, the one with 6 different calculations

Here's the uncompacted version

[somber heath]

Hey, Krys.

[primal shadow]

hi

[vocal basin]

don't expect me to remember how this works

I also still don't know how to rotate the gates

[vocal basin]

how does it look when used as a schematic on later levels?

[primal shadow]

I gotta buy that game

[placid jackal]

space bar

[placid jackal]

Looks like black magic to me chief

[vocal basin]

I also often forget that inputs/outputs can be moved

therefore this

[placid jackal]

I'm doing that one rn

[somber heath]

bbl

[primal shadow]

another day

working on work

[vocal basin]

@spark girder "how find this out more quickly: own youtube, ban one of their youtube channels, watch all other ones scream"

about RT

which rules

[primal shadow]

No

that was me

🙂

it's not legal just because you didn't get caught

Not how any of this works

If a tree falls in the woods, humans aren't magical creatures that make things be, it still makes a sound

[upper basin]

!rule 5

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[upper basin]

Doesn't matter. You are discussing it.

Yes

[primal shadow]

providing help in understanding your project

that's help

on a project

by granting us understanding

[upper basin]

Fuck me then. Nice.

[primal shadow]

Nah, at the moment it's up to Alisa, at the end of the day it's up to the moderation team

[vocal basin]

it is grey area, but, yeah, if you need to ask whether it's allowed and you're very uncertain, it probably shouldn't be discussed

[primal shadow]

You were literally going through the steps

Checking public records isn't illegal

That's the part we don't discuss

you wsee?

I see you understand

Are north korean hackers ok?

They're paid by their government

so obviously it's OK they're doing it

exactly, the server respects ALL laws

not just one set

so if it breaks a law, it's not for discussion 😦

So just because the North Koreans who hack the US are doing a national servic e for their country

does not mean they get to share the deets with us

You said you're brute forcing?

breaking laws?

that's the part we don't discuss

since they can be used elsewhere

[vocal basin]

it's a crime but you end up being immune to prosecution, as far as I understand

[primal shadow]

"immune" to US prosecution

End up in the target nation

you're far from immune

As far as the international server is concerned, I'd think breaking hte law is breaking hte law

[vocal basin]

yeah, I meant by a government, usually one

(not all of them)

we can't verify that

[primal shadow]

Unauthorized access you say?

[crisp whale]

Good morning al

[primal shadow]

That's what it sounds like

You just did

"magically"

that's now hot authorization is given

no, it's not magical

if they give you

If an authority handed it over, that's fair

The world is big

Generally, Iv'e seen

grey is no

as the mod already said

lol

sure

you asked

were answered

keep asking

'out of respect'

hoping for a different response

"can i discuss this thing that's been proclaimed not allowed?"

And no

we don't discuss, at all

things that are against hte rules

Alisa

should he be telling me "fuck you" and "shut the fuck up"

is that the respect we have for each other here

Am I being disrespectful?4

[upper basin]

I kind of gave up after he started cussing.

[primal shadow]

I'm not acting in a place of authrity, I'm relating hte rules

the ones you seem to not understand

I am well fucking aware I have no authority here, I make it crystal fuckin clear

[vocal basin]

if you have any further question about moderation, @rapid crown

[primal shadow]

back to topics within the rules I hope 🙂

[vocal basin]

I've just realised I don't remember if there's a way to label async tasks in Rust's runtime crates

I didn't entirely get the question

office infrastructure

it's still unclear when the old servers will be transported to the new place

[spark girder]

@upper basin your ears are safe from my cursing now

[primal shadow]

lemon emoji are from here

Just been around long enough to know these things, like the rules

[vocal basin]

external things depend on old IP being reachable, and we don't have 24/7 access to those things

[primal shadow]

Nah, this chair is comfy

[vocal basin]

which somewhat prevents just moving the server

there is some hope that those external things are all switched to using domains instead of IPs

[primal shadow]

The international court doesn't order hits

Cool story

no

it's a terrible theoretical

the ICC doesn't order hits

so it'd be illegal

yea

it's in violation of hte local laws I imagine in the place the hit is conducted

Stil lillegal

So I can take my wife out to international waters and legally kill her, I'm the captain of muh boat

Doesn't sound logical

I wouldn't

Why would you think about the ICC ordering hits?

where's the thought police onthat?

Which is why I say working for the govenrment doesn't mean doing good

🙂

just because uncle sma told you to

especially these days

does not make it moral

?

what

not doing what the government asks?

Are you kidding me

do you live in America?

no

you hyperbolize to the fuckin moon and back

and then get sad when I say, "what does that even mean:

Treason is a serious crime

a very serious crime

one of the few in the US punishable by death

You use a hypothetical, "it's just a hypothetical, answer the question"

I use a hypothetical "you need to get help, this is concerning"

what a fun chat with you 🙂

You lie and break rules

and then get sad when called out

yo udiscussed then asked 🙂

forgiveness is easier than permission 9/10

the rules were here long before you got here

rule 5 has been here since long before 2024

how is it so obvious to you?

Sure thing boss

"You are the dumbest fucking creature I've ever talked to"
you really need to learn how to talk to people on this server

we have rules

"get me banned if you want" why do you say this shit?

You should read the rules if yo uwant to follow them

you keep breaking htem

lol

you tried to be nice, hahahaha

Have I been disrespectful?

lol

talking shit and attacking my character, not gonna listen

I hear

You don't

It's sad that you feel the need to attack someone's character

when you are wrong

but oyu didn't

you even admitted oyu like to push the boundaries

bend the rules

Why are you even talking to me about rules

I'm a stupid dense non moderator

per you

my opinion on the rules is invalid according to you

The rules are set

Yes, we the people of the server

are expected to obey the rules

I've been around for many interpretations of the rules

I can let you know what was previously said

nah, I'm educating poeple who refuse to read a simple line or two

It's not

but I choose to share

because I can

someone shared it

30 mnutes ago

Ace

[upper basin]

Yes?

[primal shadow]

Do you want medal for joining a server and doing the initial checklist?

no you ace

[upper basin]

Do I want a medal?

[vocal basin]

@placid jackal lmao look what I did

[primal shadow]

Yes, the non walkers, they discuss the rules

with such a passion

those crawling infants

such a vocabulary

[upper basin]

I'm confused. Why would I want a medal?

[primal shadow]

"needed to be said"

[primal shadow]

not you ace

[upper basin]

Oh ok

[primal shadow]

was just saying you shared the rule

[upper basin]

Copy that.

[vocal basin]

.

[primal shadow]

it was claimed someone else sought out the rule

[placid jackal]

wait what?

[vocal basin]

3 inputs/outputs with all the logic fit in three cells

so there is no non-IO cells

[placid jackal]

Ohh right, nice

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor

btw, wires don't count as taking space

[somber heath]

@crisp whale 👋

[rugged root]

I exist

Kind of

On soon

[crisp whale]

Heey, how are you?

[somber heath]

Much is mysterious.

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/nmlPVqagZQk.gif

[spare galleon]

@primal shadow omg you made the yap hall of fame, never saw someone yap so much

[rugged root]

yap?

[primal shadow]

Happens when I don't have a mic sometimes

[somber heath]

@digital cape 👋

[primal shadow]

That's why I gotta move there

be happier

We were just talking

IDK, someone didn't like the rules as much as I love them

I quite enjoy conversations about rules as you know

[open moth]

@somber heath yoo

[peak depot]

Did u get them banned?

[open moth]

how you doin man

[primal shadow]

I didn't do anything

I just talked to them, I'm not a mod

I didn't report anything if that's what you're asking

Just wanted to discuss the rules as the covnersation flowed

I had to walk away for a meeting, when I came back, they were gone

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

yo

[primal shadow]

Ooh, expelled

that's harsh

[quartz beacon]

yeah. it's not like i have a document saying the deadline is in May

and it's March rn.

but she HAS to show her authority

-_-

fucking pathetic bureaucrats

[primal shadow]

lol

don't tread on my right to catch em all

the diseases that is

Fuck RFK

[vocal basin]

occurs when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through previous infections or vaccination

I have some doubts whoever suggested that understand that the term doesn't apply to genetic immunity

@peak depot the only thing I remember from that conversation was Osyra's commentary lol

though that might've been a different big chicken conversation

I properly ate only twice in 4 days, this might be suboptimal

as long as I'm >56kg, I'm not yet near really problematic state

@rugged root I can finally use photoshop again given now I have >1GB free C:\ disk space so get prepared to seeing cursed edits resumed

[primal shadow]

5

and washington is a dollar

Night at the Roxbury?

https://youtu.be/-RW-BoCydQw

Chris Kattan was so good, recently saw a broken neck killed his acting

[vocal basin]

what is a print button there, I had binded to "pkill rainbow six siege and ubisoft connect"

[primal shadow]

Corky Romano was great

[vocal basin]

it also required pressing a keyboard key though

[whole bear]

Nope

https://store.steampowered.com/app/636480/Ravenfield/

Steam

Ravenfield

Fight upon the Ravenfield together with your Blue allies! Take down those pesky Reds using helicopters, tanks, guns, and active ragdoll physics!Ravenfield is a singleplayer game in the vein of older team-vs-team AI shooters. The game is designed to be easy to pick up and play, but also rewarding for all skill levels!Key FeaturesEasy-to-pickup, s...

Price

$11.87

Recommendations

69077

▶ Play video

Ravenfield

[vocal basin]

@obsidian dragon hypothetical store interaction, presumably:

customer: I want to buy batteries
osyra: you're a batteries, plus that's just you opinion or whatever

[primal shadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez

he was the nightstalker

XMen had a Nightcrawler

Yea, stalker was a murderer

Streaming github?

[vocal basin]

!stream 1169644460238454869

[wise cargo]

✅ @orchid bluff can now stream until <t:1742483240:f>.

[primal shadow]

That went well

damn, might be a new record for me

[spark girder]

Could you check your DMs, please?

[vocal basin]

and RPLCS is not among those 9 somehow

[primal shadow]

All but the steam one are coding related

[vocal basin]

@rugged root if admin means admin permissions, then dir-only is not a thing

[primal shadow]

well, Blender too, but that's like

[vocal basin]

"tbf that's probably just a keybase chat outside the server"

[rugged root]

Certain programmy style games. Or plome doing his handiwork stuff

[primal shadow]

Joy of programming

How about Factorio?

[vocal basin]

Brick Rigs pre-1.whatever (I don't remember exact version) logic is pure insanity, but the game as a whole is more of a 3d design/maths thing

not much programming

Stormworks has Lua

@rugged root "noway they got doom running on the graph of daily roblox trust and safety violations"

does GitLab graph commits or pushes on activity display

GitHub does commits, Forgejo does pushes

latter prevents activity graph art somewhat

at least you can't do it in just minutes

you need an actual year there

NK

or is NK disqualified because only official data is available

[rugged root]

@quiet yacht Yo

[vocal basin]

the "Happiest Nation that is Not Finland" title

I've remembered another game with programming in it

Space Engineers

and there it's not Lua

[rugged root]

Which language?

[vocal basin]

C#

compiled who knows how

or some, like, C#-ish thing

[stuck furnace]

Hey 👋

[vocal basin]

at least their APIs are described in terms of C# from what I remember

[stuck furnace]

Sorry if I'm slow to respond, I'm just listening in while I get on with some work

[rugged root]

I think there is C# script, but I might be misremembering

[rugged root]

It's okay, we still love you

[vocal basin]

I should buy Space Engineers 2 just to compare

it's an alternative implementation, not a sequel/replacement

devs claim both versions will be supported

[primal shadow]

I want SE2

[vocal basin]

Space Engineers' (first version's) DLCs were the best-received cosmetic DLCs I've ever seen;
like the community is very much ready to pay to support devs

[primal shadow]

I should buy it

[vocal basin]

I wonder if the 2 will have the same monetisation thingy

[primal shadow]

I actually bought one of the DLCs to support the dev...

[vocal basin]

SE2 I think was declared as having mod support on launch

[primal shadow]

then stopped playing shortly after, lol

I had a blast making things in that game though

the programming blocks are so fun

[vocal basin]

or at least, like, as something they want to add very early

[primal shadow]

Other people's creations though, make me feel like I know nothing

[vocal basin]

one of the fun things to do for me was making 1- or 2-thruster crafts for atmospheric flight and learning to pilot them properly

i.e. without side-thrusters/"breaks"

[primal shadow]

I like the thruster progression in that game

[vocal basin]

I think I used those even in survival games because they're cheaper

I don't remember if it's standalone DLC or part of some deluxe/whatever, but there's also this

the early demo

one of the most surprisingly good things about SE1 was controller support

the devs put actual effort into making it work

a whole new UI, not just keybinds

[vocal basin]

ohno my salary is delayed by a whole single day what will I ever do

the what did I just press

why is quick start an actual quick start I did not expect that

why does only moon start give a rover instead of a stationary thing

the amount of stuff in the sky reminded me of a half-dead game that recently started getting updates

(Osiris: New Dawn being that half-dead game)

[vocal basin]

> Russians land on Moon
> first ore found: Nickel

[vocal basin]

not only the progression but also the economics of it
want both in and out of atmosphere => need fuel

[primal shadow]

Going to space for the first time was fun

made one of them tall rocket rockets

[neon shore]

the program is supposed to search for the top 5 results on PyPI based on the word I give it

my problem is that this : linkElms = soup.select('a.package-snippet')

is giving me an empty list

even though I inspected the website's html and this is the element it gave me that has href

[rugged root]

Was just looking at some settings in NotePad, and I'm super confused. Why does it need this. I know I've seen it before, but I'm just as baffled as the last time I saw it

[primal shadow]

What do you mean?

Why would you NOT need AI to help take notes?

[rugged root]

You know what, I hadn't thought of that

[primal shadow]

I'm impatiently waiting for AI to come to these

Maybe each can have its own agent

Just registed for a 5 day AI course with Kaggle nad Google that I'll forget about

[vocal basin]

sorry how far away??

oh I've just noticed

there's unknown and unrecognised

they're different apparently

[primal shadow]

Did they up the speed limit?

[vocal basin]

wouldn't think so

my last memory related to that was something along the lines of "increasing it is even less feasible now"

or something similar

[vocal basin]

second ore location: Nickel again

I've already named the faction Nornickel

too bad there aren't any rivers

[rugged root]

https://remarkable.com/store/remarkable-2 Could be possible with something like this

[amber raptor]

Because promotion metric at MSFT is AI so people are falling over themselves to add it.

[vocal basin]

why is everything Nickel

[rugged root]

@neon shore Wasn't sure if you were talking to us or not. I scooted you down to AFK just in case

[primal shadow]

A dime a dozen, or a dime a two?

[neon shore]

oh, I was sending a voice message, you came in clutch haha

[primal shadow]

I've seen that, it's neat but $$$$

[vocal basin]

I still want to buy a usb stenotype

[unique wyvern]

wasn't that a harry potter movie

[vocal basin]

I don't think my keyboard has NKRO so I can't emulate it as well yet

[primal shadow]

https://softhruf.love/

[vocal basin]

delivery to Russia is problematic

[primal shadow]

https://github.com/molly/SOFT-HRUF

Don't yall still have access to Asia?

[vocal basin]

I should get a unionpay or whatever it's called card indeed

not cheap and takes time but at least possible and mostly legal

[upper basin]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[upper basin]

!code

[wise cargo]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[primal shadow]

backticks, not tildes

[neon shore]

import sys, bs4, requests, webbrowser

# Visual notice that the program is working
print('Searching...')

# Debug: print the keyword being searched
print(f"Searching for: {' '.join(sys.argv[1:])}")

# Takes the keyword and searches for it using the URL
res = requests.get('https://pypi.org/search/?q=' + ' '.join(sys.argv[1:]))

# Raise status to make sure if there is an error or not
res.raise_for_status()

# Debug: print a part of the HTML to see if the request was successful
print("Request successful, parsing HTML...")

# Parse the HTML
soup = bs4.BeautifulSoup(res.text, 'html.parser')

# Select the correct <a> tag that contains the package link
linkElms = soup.select('a.package-snippet')
print(linkElms)

# If no results are found, inform the user
if not linkElms:
    print("No results found.")
else:
    # Limit the number of pages to open to 5 or fewer
    numOpen = min(5, len(linkElms))

    # Open the pages in the browser
    for i in range(numOpen):
        # Get the href from the <a> tag and form the full URL
        urlToOpen = 'https://pypi.org' + linkElms[i].get('href')
        print(f'Opening: {urlToOpen}')
        try:
            webbrowser.open(urlToOpen)
        except Exception as e:
            print(f"Error opening URL: {e}")

[rugged root]

Either

[primal shadow]

you can just edit

[vocal basin]

unknown signal gave this

[primal shadow]

>++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>++++++[<+++++++>-]<+
+.------------.>++++++[<+++++++++>-]<+.<.+++.------.--------.>>>++++[<++++++++>-
]<+.```

it does know brainfuck

[vocal basin]

JS is a very popular compilation target

JS is not written in something

ES is a standard

you get to do whatever you want with it as long you stay within the standard

[rugged root]

ES?

[vocal basin]

ECMAScript

[rugged root]

Ah, I didn't think about the S part

I knew it was ECMA

[vocal basin]

most implementations are C/C++/Rust hybrids

ECMA is like ISO

[rugged root]

Yarp

[primal shadow]

here I am on pypi

[vocal basin]

when are we getting IEEEScript

[primal shadow]

in my JS console

they are getting an empty list

is their issue

seems to be a valid selector

do we not nede to read the body?

are htey using soup right after grabbing hte response?

res = requests.get('https://pypi.org/search/?q=' + ' '.join(sys.argv[1:]))

# Raise status to make sure if there is an error or not
res.raise_for_status()

# Debug: print a part of the HTML to see if the request was successful
print("Request successful, parsing HTML...")

# Parse the HTML
soup = bs4.BeautifulSoup(res.text, 'html.parser')

I don't use requests often in python

does res.text have content?

isn't a get async?

[vocal basin]

@rugged root from what I remember PyPI "API"s to be, they're some completely HATEOAS-brained URL mess, "I bet that's what Charlie wants the internet to be"

[gritty karma]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/38033910

[rugged root]

That tracks. Also my first time hearing about HATEOAS

[vocal basin]

imagine HTMX fanatics, then remove all the good stuff

[rugged root]

Ick

[whole bear]

@neon shore Allah is great!

[rugged root]

MOAR STANDARDS!! WE NEED MOAR!!!!

[neon shore]

Mashallah brother

[astral coral]

HEHE I made a webscrapper for the command and conquer community before :L

[vocal basin]

in short: HTML for ALL API output

[primal shadow]

Jesus Chrsit Replit has gone to complete shit

the AI is far too prevalent

[amber raptor]

We know who to blame for that.

[primal shadow]

I don't

[whole bear]

Let's blame hemlock

It's all his fault

[primal shadow]

print res.text

!paste

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[primal shadow]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NVZQ

here's what I get when hitting pypi

it's not happy

It throws an error

I don't think it's meant to be scraped

Why not just print the res.text

to see the response

[rugged root]

Why is this a thing https://www.programmingfonts.org/#monaspace-radon

[primal shadow]

why even send it to soup

No need for soup

print the response

if it's a bad response, soup can't do fuck

[rugged root]

HA.

[primal shadow]

Yea, an error

Whch is why they should read the error

You get a 200

SUCCESS!

but you are not processing it correctly

since there's more to do

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/200

[unique wyvern]

thats what i imagine js programmers use as a font

[primal shadow]

https://docs.pypi.org/api/

why not use the APi?

it's meant for what you're trying to do

It's not a great place to practice it seems

the website is too fancy for simple web scraping

well, it retuned happy, there's just no browser to process the JS

to fill in the page

If you go not headless it should be fine

Add in some selenium

but the API is the better bet

[primal shadow]

Yea, ❤️ selenium for testing

saves so much effort

[vocal basin]

@gritty karma there is no engineering involved

[primal shadow]

lol @ throwing engineer in it

[vocal basin]

that's the whole point

[upper basin]

In quantum computing, we do the same thing over and over and get potentially different results.

[vocal basin]

@gritty karma I mean not even prompt engineering

if you're doing prompt engineering, you're not "vibe coding"

why? because you're applying effort

[upper basin]

Is vibe coding another one of those gen Z terms?

[gritty karma]

yes

[vocal basin]

yes

AI bro term

[upper basin]

Not learning that.

Instant purge.

[vocal basin]

the author of that giant 3H reaction to a reaction to YC video is very unhappy about the term

@unique wyvern "programming the analytical engine was where it's at, true engineering times"

@gritty karma it's rather "if you do complex processing, you should be storing it differently"

[primal shadow]

GUI SQL

[vocal basin]

if you JOIN often, you should've JOINed upfront

[primal shadow]

I used to use a frontend GUI for SQL when I first got into it

How do you mean processing?

[vocal basin]

if you do complex JOINs and GROUP BY/whatever stuff, SQL is absolutely the right choice most of the times

[primal shadow]

Are you saying pull the raw data out of SQL and then handle the tables on the front end?

[vocal basin]

if you start doing stored procedures/complex conditions, yeah, rethink your approach

[primal shadow]

And not write queries that do the moving of data for you?

Nah, I write 200line queries

and the data comes to the front end exactly like I want it

YTD sales totals for example

am I to push all orders to the front end?

I don't, I calculate em in SQL

and return a signle "YTD"

I've got to determine which potential workers are the best fit for the job

based on skills, distance, attributes, etc

I do that all in SQL

and return the resultset

[vocal basin]

probably don't build CSS and HTML via SQL

[rugged root]

SAP

They can burn

[vocal basin]

there is a postgres extension for that

[primal shadow]

https://www.amazingcto.com/postgres-for-everything/

[vocal basin]

or Fireship video describing the same

[gritty karma]

from gql import Client, gql
from gql.transport.aiohttp import AIOHTTPTransport

# Select your transport with a defined url endpoint
transport = AIOHTTPTransport(url="https://countries.trevorblades.com/")

# Create a GraphQL client using the defined transport
client = Client(transport=transport, fetch_schema_from_transport=True)

# Provide a GraphQL query
query = gql(
    """
    query getContinents {
      continents {
        code
        name
      }
    }
"""
)

# Execute the query on the transport
result = client.execute(query)
print(result)

[vocal basin]

timescale's docs and blogs are great, idk about the thing itself

jsonb does not replace mongo

documentdb and ferretdb do

jsonb is overhyped in general

most of the time you just need json

[rugged root]

jsonbz nutz

[astral coral]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I don't have git :S

[vocal basin]

is there a docker container for git

alpine/git

[astral coral]

why tho

[vocal basin]

idk that just sounded like a horrible idea

but usable

[rugged root]

Yes, that does sound like a horrible idea

[vocal basin]

docker actually depends on git afaik

at least on libgit or whatever

[astral coral]

yeah I've heard of docker using git but not docker FOR git :L

maybe I'm just stupid or?

[rugged root]

No you're not

[whole bear]

yes

[rugged root]

Well... Not for this reason

[astral coral]

??? ouch

what reason is there :L

[rugged root]

No idea, just felt funny

[astral coral]

:L

[rugged root]

Mah bad

[astral coral]

I'm laughing so dw

[torn yarrow]

meow

[rugged root]

Sup, cat

[astral coral]

I'm stupid because I'm trying to install stable-diffusion and several LLMs locally :L

[rugged root]

How much storage space do you have?

[torn yarrow]

great, hbu?

[rugged root]

I'm alright. Work work work

[astral coral]

not alot but the biggest dolphin was only 30GB

[spark girder]

What are you using for storage and running the models?

[astral coral]

it's RAM i'm falling on

SSD

[rugged root]

The largest single one? I'm more meaning the whole lot of them

[spark girder]

No I mean like python transformers, LocalLLM, Ollama, etc

[rugged root]

Oh that's not too terrible

There're AAA games much larger than that

[astral coral]

this is the fuck around and find out stage of AI dev

yeah true

[spark girder]

Oh, yeah you’re kinda screwed there. I was going to say if you were using Python there are modules that allow you to load partially to GPU partially to RAM or an MoE like system where it stores the unused parameters in SWAP instead of RAM

[astral coral]

ahhhhhhhhh

again novice

[torn yarrow]

Do you guys think the AI bubble gonna burst soon?

[astral coral]

I'm looking at turning a lightweight LLM into a VR reality thing

[rugged root]

At a huge performace cost, I would think. Swap, even with an SSD, is still going to be much slower than RAM

[spark girder]

It takes time to learn all of this. Just start with stuff like Phi, learn about retraining and fine tuning then move towards self employed artificial intelligence

[astral coral]

thats the plan

Lora on Phii

I just gotta work out wtf I'm actually doing :L

my idea is to predefine loads of assets and scenes to impliment with a LoRA Phi in Godot

?

[rugged root]

Sorry, in Godot?

[astral coral]

yeah injections*

GODOT

:L

[rugged root]

The game engine/framework?

[astral coral]

the game engine

/framework

[rugged root]

Huh

[astral coral]

I have no idea

[rugged root]

Minstrel cycle. Just a bard on a bike

[astral coral]

¬¬

ahahahahah

[rugged root]

Thankfully I'm still enjoying Nim

[astral coral]

https://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x11spa-t-motherboard-review-an-intel-xeon-w-3200-platform/supermicro-x11spa-t-angle-view/

[modest raptor]

I'd love to help but I'm a noob atm

[rugged root]

Sure, what's got you stuck

[vocal basin]

airduct around the GPUs, and coolers on both ends of it

[astral coral]

yesssssssssssssssssss

[vocal basin]

similarly to how Oxide do it

[rugged root]

I'm more than happy to help or at least get you the right resources

[modest raptor]

^

[modest raptor]

Oh I was just responding to your community comment in voice

[rugged root]

Ohhhh gotcha gotcha

My bad, thought you had something specific

[modest raptor]

I just need to spend more time grinding it out

[rugged root]

Sometimes that's the only way

[vocal basin]

stuff

fun fact: Intel Capital is one of the investors in Oxide

and Oxide don't use Intel, they're AMD-only

Oxide Computer

computer company startup

they sell whole racks

not individual sleds

it's not for mining

it's for private cloud infrastructure

[rugged root]

On-demand elastic resources. On-prem economics and governance. Together for the very first time.

Interesting

[vocal basin]

1.5 tons of compute

[spark girder]

Damn

[vocal basin]

@rugged root also good and fair working conditions sure are suspicious

[modest raptor]

v suspicious yes

[vocal basin]

same salary for all employees except sales personnel

[rugged root]

Interesting

[vocal basin]

(this is a joke obviously)

[vocal basin]

there is no BIOS/UEFI on this thing

they control almost all firmware

@astral coral it already tracks, it just sends it to FBI instead of you

idk, all of them

FSBI

[primal shadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

[rugged root]

Okay, whoever decided that some USB-C cables should be USB 2.0 should be shot

https://www.amazon.com/Blocker-JSAUX-Charge-Only-Blocking-Compatible/dp/B0897WB3VJ

Stuff like that

[astral coral]

@somber heath YOU BETTER HAVE HAD A SANDWICH!!!????

[spark girder]

pip install torch transformers peft accelerate

[wise cargo]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[spark girder]

microsoft/phi-3.5

[rugged root]

Hmmmm

Suspiciously good price https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Ethernet-Delivery-Compatible-Chromebook/dp/B0BW2TLQ8S

[primal shadow]

Did yall see the SNL skit?

[spark girder]

Don't trust it 😠

[primal shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86qKgK0asGo&ab_channel=SaturdayNightLive

[spark girder]

If the price is too god it's a scam!

[vocal basin]

the future:

[spark girder]

Oooh

Intriguing

[primal shadow]

ARe those all gold plated C's?

😍

https://tenor.com/6he4.gif

[rugged root]

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Ethernet-PowerExpand-Aluminum-Portable/dp/B08CK9X9Z8

[spark girder]

You falling in love with the USB-C PSU

?

[modest raptor]

I will sit here in 15 years time still using the standard psu connectors to spite change

[spark girder]

May god have mercy on your soul

[modest raptor]

I still use DVI

[rugged root]

@still herald Yoooo

[astral coral]

it's Micro-USB 🤢 🤮

[modest raptor]

Oh, and I still have a dvd drive

phone line looks like ethernet but smaller

[rugged root]

Less pins

[astral coral]

hemlock

[rugged root]

Then there's the one for handsets or headsets for office phones

Which is even smaller

[astral coral]

is there a micro ethanet?

[rugged root]

No. RJ-45 is the port standard

[modest raptor]

That'd be cool

[spark girder]

RJ-45 and RJ-11

[primal shadow]

quick internet claim

[primal shadow]

so DSL Would be the one that doesn't eat the line

That only has 2?

I only see the 2

[primal shadow]

the slots are on the side instead of the bottom?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_telephone_socket

[vocal basin]

and what it connects to

[primal shadow]

I'm gonna say it's this then, if they are from the Uk

[vocal basin]

@rugged root "is this what Europe wants"

[modest raptor]

I think Australia can compete for internet infrastructure Zak

[primal shadow]

What is the box?

that is receiving these plugs

dialup

we had

then dsl and cable

now fiber

And the T's

I never got new modems

but I'm not that old

56k

[modest raptor]

No way it's dialup Zak

[primal shadow]

Their not so secret handshake

[modest raptor]

why is it a 6

it should be a 3

[spark girder]

It's AI

Quick ChatGPT request

[primal shadow]

The keyboard

I'd recommend

[modest raptor]

My brother has starlink as well as broadband NBN, and starlink is 10x faster...

[spark girder]

That is absolutely 100% true in the US. Speeds suck as soon as you're outside a city

[primal shadow]

I got a shooting gallery screensaver from an album once

[spark girder]

Starlink is goated, we had it for a bit when Spectrum was swapping wires in my area.

[modest raptor]

it's just pathetic that SPACE NET is better than our 1970s copper cables

[spark girder]

@rugged root should I try to run deepseek on my 64GB RAM laptop?

🙂

[spark girder]

It's really not, it's understandable

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bMzvL.gif

[modest raptor]

it's from SPACE

[spark girder]

Just gonna say I already tried, blue screen of death.

Immediately

[astral coral]

I have anti-CCP sentiments

[rugged root]

Weird that it doesn't just kill itself

Or hang

[modest raptor]

is deepseek that heavy?

[spark girder]

It was on my shitty implementation of llama CPP to Python

Insanely memory unsafe and it kinda just shuffled parameters until it could provide a response

[primal shadow]

Middle age should be going down

all the poison in the air, I'm not gonna outlive my grandma

[modest raptor]

How is middle age 35 sorry?

[primal shadow]

I mean, she passed, but I doubt I'll reach her age

Is it bad to not have excess hair?

[rugged root]

Fair

[rugged root]

Nah.

[spark girder]

An algorithm to smartly and safely obtain 64GB of useable parameters is like a solid 200-300 lines... so I just skipped it and did (psuedocode)

while len(params) != 64*1024*1024*1024:
  params += random.choice(originalParams)
  originalParams.pop(params)

... stuff to freeze the rest of the parameters ...

[rugged root]

Your genes determine it

Was just surprised that I was gaining any at all

value = 64*1024*1024*1024
while len(params) != value:
  params += random.choice(originalParams)
  originalParams.pop(params)

Measure once, loop a lot

[primal shadow]

For what?

[whole bear]

living for more than 18 years is overrated

[astral coral]

NEURONS ARE USELESS

[primal shadow]

Are you trying to run the fanciest of deepseek models?

[vocal basin]

still playing space engineers;
now having to cross these mountains;
I might've picked a wrong route lmao

[primal shadow]

That spec in the middle, that's you?

[astral coral]

do you enjoy playing kerbels?

[rugged root]

That's quitter talk

[vocal basin]

I found ice

that's a win

[primal shadow]

It's not

[spark girder]

https://pypi.org/project/llama-cpp-python/0.1.9/

[vocal basin]

why Python: Jupyter

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/dGPlOjWxrKO.gif

[vocal basin]

AI scientists can't install a C++ kernel

[spark girder]

https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp

[vocal basin]

for jupyter

it OOMed my server when I tried to compile it

(the kernel)

[astral coral]

@spark girder Open WebUI, can you recommend better UIs

[primal shadow]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/418

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/400

[astral coral]

200 your mom accepts all suiters

[primal shadow]

406 doesn't seem right with "DMs not accepted" since the error is when the server cannot supply an apporpriate response as requested

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/406

[primal shadow]

413-thats-what-she-said

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/{code}

[astral coral]

404

[primal shadow]

I'm so entertained by that one

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/417

that one looks good

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/417

[astral coral]

Zak-to-Brain, "where is that dopamine?", Brain-to-Zak "404"

[spark girder]

423DMsNotAccepted

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/bku6O.gif

[neon shore]

Query

[astral coral]

Wife its BJ night - 503

[primal shadow]

https://tenor.com/bOqvZ.gif

quarry vs query

the top is the quarry

the bottom the query

[vocal basin]

@rugged root passive aggressive query

[astral coral]

502

[vocal basin]

just like passive aggressive event sourcing

[rugged root]

The best kind

[spark girder]

507NotEnoughNeurons

[astral coral]

Brain Function! : 503

[vocal basin]

"event: user expressed a desire to do ..."

[spark girder]

503FucksNotFound (Service Unavailable >:) )

[astral coral]

:L

[vocal basin]

https://http.cat/530

@unique wyvern mandatory question: which OOP

[spark girder]

This is amazing

[astral coral]

Chasity belt ::: 403

[spark girder]

418ImATeapot

[primal shadow]

That was my first recommendation

[spark girder]

I must've missed it, my fault

[astral coral]

the internet boston tea party

[primal shadow]

though this is the favorite I came up with

[spark girder]

I like this one as well tho

[vocal basin]

Java and C# is the popular version of OOP

[primal shadow]

411 could be the alternative to that

[spark girder]

Ahh, beautiful!

[vocal basin]

C++ is a broken hybrid of one idea of OOP and another idea of OOP

[spark girder]

412FriendRequestNotAccepted >:)

[vocal basin]

interfaces are good; if you learn Java and C# focus on those

[spark girder]

I want to learn Objective-C just to be useless 🙂

[astral coral]

I want to learn python to be a script kiddie

[vocal basin]

interfaces > abstract classes > inheriting instantiable classes

[spark girder]

A script kiddie uses premade scripts because they don't have the intelligence to make their own

[astral coral]

brb gonna hack NSA with HTML

[primal shadow]

Soon to be #51

https://tenor.com/fau4Opqcwv6.gif

[astral coral]

idk I'm jacked on coffee and just saying shit

[primal shadow]

What was Thanos' endgame?

[spark girder]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/canadians-fed-up-says-alberta-lawyer-leading-delegation-washington-statehood-talks

[spark girder]

I'm unsure of the validity of this I just find it funny anyways.

[spark girder]

THE BRITISH ARE COMING THE BRITISH ARE COMING

[primal shadow]

Maybe canada will jointhe EU instead

[astral coral]

thats my answer to the US

[primal shadow]

that'd be cool, if htey join the US or EU I get to be a Canadian citizen too!

[astral coral]

🤮

[primal shadow]

Are Germans not allowed to discuss international politics?

What's the population of Canada?

40 million?

[upper basin]

Canada playing hard to get.

[neon shore]

Not after 1945

[upper basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goonies-chunk-come-on-please-gif-15099442

[spark girder]

D.A.M.N.

[primal shadow]

The US Never lost it's right to talk international politics after the countless coflicts we started?

[neon shore]

the US doesn't lose.

[primal shadow]

WE won vietnam?

[neon shore]

😎

[primal shadow]

Afghanistan?

[astral coral]

why the fuck would you want to move to the UK?!?!?!??!?!

[rugged root]

Spite

[neon shore]

you're vietnamese?

[primal shadow]

"the war on drugs"

[upper basin]

Define win I guess.

[astral coral]

oof

[primal shadow]

accomplish the objectives

[upper basin]

What objectives?

[primal shadow]

the ones set out when we began the conflict

[upper basin]

Yall usually leave nothing standing afterwards.

[vocal basin]

I don't even know if it's trolling or not

[upper basin]

And the wigs usually plunder as much as they want, so not sure what other objective is missed.

[neon shore]

or am I ? Vsauce theme

[astral coral]

I feel bad for the LGBT communities

[upper basin]

@unique wyvern Wrote sth. It's slooooooooooow.

!paste

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[whole bear]

they feel bad for themselves too

[peak depot]

"While Finland once again tops the World Happiness Report’s rankings, the United States — at No. 24 — earned its lowest ranking yet in the 2025 report. "

From: "The German girl"

[upper basin]

@unique wyvern Here's my current mess. hehe
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BS7Q

I used lambda's approach rather heavily.

[astral coral]

I wanna move to Switersland :3

[primal shadow]

both parts

Nah, we don't do science in America, we do feels

hermaphrodite

[astral coral]

Zwitter

[primal shadow]

So where do they play volleyball?

Someone was talking about buying a car

I did

they seemed cool

but now, I'll pass on Nazicar

Beyond that too, their QC is shit

If only he could shut the fuck up again

that'd be great

https://tenor.com/Hovu.gif

Yea, like destroying astronomy

[astral coral]

you don't become the richest man on Earth being ethical

[primal shadow]

the most legitimate use of it

old news?

[whole bear]

ethics are tools to further your goals

they're nothing transcendent

[primal shadow]

Who cares? THe constitution is void these days

loopholes? They're not abusing loopholes

they're breaking federal law

the only "loophole" they're abusing is Trump's DOJ will not go after Trump

and the checks and balances are firmly in Trumps control

[astral coral]

overcompensating?

[primal shadow]

"christian" hahahhahaha

A man who's never read the bible

He just wants to sell leatherbound books

he's got his US citizenship fraudulenntly

it should be revoked

he should be deported

or jailed

he's a fuckin illegal

Send him to gitmo

[spark girder]

In his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, Jefferson used the metaphor of "a wall of separation between church and state." This phrase has become a cornerstone in interpreting the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.

[primal shadow]

That's what the GOP does

Greed Obstruction Projection

Any time they accuse someone of doing something it's just them announcing their playbook

[astral coral]

Anarchy for the USA

[primal shadow]

GOP is all about child abuse

that's why they hate abortion

they want more victims

[rugged root]

Interesting take

[primal shadow]

It was the white house or a fucking cell

[whole bear]

american having a mental meltdown? let me bring some snacks.

[rugged root]

As is our way

[primal shadow]

less than

by a mile

far less than half

about a third of eligible voters picked Trump

about a third for Harris

[spark girder]

The GOP is against abortion because as per biology a baby is alive at fertilization.

[primal shadow]

the biggest chunk opted out of voting

[primal shadow]

the baby?

[astral coral]

charism

[primal shadow]

What "biology" is this?

[spark girder]

Sorry the zygote.

[primal shadow]

bahahahahahaha

the feelsology?

the opinionology

[astral coral]

you're looking at it from the perspective of someone with above 100 IQ

[primal shadow]

The zygote is a parasite 🙂

[spark girder]

No this is science, when a sperm cell fertilizes an egg it produces a zygote. A zygote is a founding cell within the production of an embrio and by definition is a seperate life form from the mother.

[rugged root]

Same