Ah it's amazing
#voice-chat-text-0
whole bear
vocal basin
chess has way younger "peak skill" age compared to proper programming
whole bear
@somber heath It must be hard?
whole bear
chess has way younger "peak skill" age compared to proper programming
How do you know?
vocal basin
as for sports programming, yeah, that's been similar for a while
whole bear
as for sports programming, yeah, that's been similar for a while
Come join VC
whole bear
chess has way younger "peak skill" age compared to proper programming
peak is like 20 -> 30 year old
vocal basin
peak for programming is 40~50
whole bear
peak for programming is 40~50
Nah
Programming has no peak
and also english is not my main language so dont be rude with my my grammar
There are literally walking dead coder making stuff
vocal basin
after 40~50 memory issues start being a problem, though that depends on a specific person
somber heath
and also english is not my main language so dont be rude with my my grammar
Were we rude?
whole bear
no
whole bear
after 40~50 memory issues start being a problem, though that depends on a specif...
Nah I don't think so.
As barbara is an example that age couldn't be factor!
somber heath
Who is Barbara?
whole bear
She become successful in her 50s or 60s
vocal basin
Liskov
whole bear
Shark Tank
vocal basin
, would be the guess
yeah, for some people memory doesn't degrading that much, then, yeah, skill accumulation lasts for longer
vocal basin
(in any case my point was that there is no early peak)
somber heath
I wonder if she got called grasshopper.
vocal basin
(in any case my point was that there is no *early* peak)
((as commonly is with chess/sports in general))
whole bear
yeah, for some people memory doesn't degrading that much, then, yeah, skill accu...
Yeah
It's all about lifestyle and genetics
is there any git repo i could maintain cus there is nothing to do
vocal basin
you should probably be contributing to a repo, not maintaining it, if you're just looking for things to do
whole bear
Opal why not try making ur own lang using python?
vocal basin
assuming that's someone else's repo
whole bear
Opal why not try making ur own lang using python?
You're advanced programmer I think so
whole bear
you should probably be contributing to a repo, not maintaining it, if you're jus...
or just that
Dude what do you find interesting?
You can make Online Course.
There's fella named Bruno Simon, he made around 3 million just from online course!
vocal basin
yeah, for some people memory doesn't degrading that much, then, yeah, skill accu...
one of the few reasons why innovation in programming is related to youth is because for some older people it's difficult to let go of what they believe;
i.e. lack of knowledge can help in solving something deemed impossible
whole bear
@quartz beacon Hello
Your friend is you!
You love yourself
Hello Mindful dev
Galactus ur the kid?
whole bear
You can make Online Course.
There's fella named Bruno Simon, he made around 3 mi...
i am bad with explaining
Where's ur youtube channel @whole bear ?
whole bear
i am bad with explaining
It's was for Opal
He is good at it
ahh
bruh
If Bruno Simon has sold his course to around 25000+ students at 90 USD each.
That mean he have USD 2,250,000 from the course alone.
Insane!
Imagine a course can make you rich!
Damn!
vocal basin
one of the few reasons why innovation in programming is related to youth is beca...
I don't remember who said that, but there was a quote about how for certain changes to happen the older generation needs to just die out/retire
whole bear
If ```Bruno Simon``` has sold his course to around ```25000+``` students at ```...
- taxes
whole bear
- taxes
Nope
just trolling rn
I have taken taxes out
dont mind me
total was 100 USD
or something
So I took 90 as actual amount in pocket
vocal basin
Imagine a course can make you rich!
-- welcome to the seminar on how to earn $1'000'000 in only a few minutes. what was the price for the ticket?
-- $1'000
-- how many seats are there?
-- 1000
-- and this is how you earn $1'000'000, seminar over
vocal basin
I don't even know what the modern grifters call their talks
when it's web, it's webinar
somber heath
whole bear
Because there's private discord which is only accessible to paid user or student, and user count was 26 thousand or more
vocal basin
in-brain t9 not functioning
whole bear
I'd like to recommend you a soviet era movie
I liked it
Movie's name is "Of Freaks and Man"
@whole bear What's wrong dude?
I can hear you!
vocal basin
it's post-soviet
whole bear
@whole bear -> @chilly wolf
vocal basin
yeah, Balabanov is a famous director
whole bear
it's post-soviet
Really?
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> -> <@99041425483653120>
thanks
whole bear
well, I don't want to make my youtube channel famous
whole bear
yeah, Balabanov is a famous director
Hmm, so you had watched it?
vocal basin
Hmm, so you had watched it?
not yet
whole bear
@quartz beacon I use unity it's much better org compared to Alphabet
vocal basin
<@327179626306863104> I use unity it's much better org compared to Alphabet
Alphabet is not as open and direct about their questionable practices
whole bear
Alphabet is not as open and direct about their questionable practices
Who cares about the transparency?
When ur using it for free it's expected
I like unity over google
because google admob is much worser compared to unity ad
vocal basin
there were very specific concerns for not using unity, iirc
whole bear
I use unity ad
vocal basin
licensing stuff
whole bear
But unity works well in most case!
vocal basin
until they sue you
whole bear
until they sue you
Why would they sue me?
primal shadow
to get that money
whole bear
I'm just poor boy no body knows me!
vocal basin
Why would they sue me?
if you don't pay the fee
even if your game was published before the policy change
whole bear
if you don't pay the fee
They take their commission, from the revenue, so it's never a issue for me!
vocal basin
They take their commission, from the revenue, so it's never a issue for me!
from the revenue
no
that's the issue
it's per-install
whole bear
Nah I use unity ad for my apps
whole bear
@quartz beacon Why do you like arab?
I mean you do like to talk about arab and egypt
You did long ago when you where talking with Hemlock
Jikky do you know arabic ?
astral coral
hayyyi guys :L
whole bear
the per-install thing was the main controversy from what I remember
Okay
whole bear
You're multi lingual!
I know french, english, arabic
quartz beacon
are you Lebanese?
whole bear
I know french, english, arabic
You ain't 14 ur 80 year old in 14 year old boy
somber heath
https://tenor.com/view/telescope-cringe-watching-drama-looking-gif-5506845
Farsi.
whole bear
are you Lebanese?
Who?
quartz beacon
why
whole bear
He speaks french and arabic
quartz beacon
Lebanese people speak all 3 languages he listed
whole bear
You ain't 14 ur 80 year old in 14 year old boy
if you dont believe me, when i will go in voc when i will get voc verif and talk in those langs
so most likely north african
whole bear
He must be from algeria
very very close
quartz beacon
oh, nice
whole bear
I knew it!
whole bear
why do you hope i dont have goals
Glad to hear that!
somber heath
Did you hear about the North African mermaid? ||They were from Algaeria.||
whole bear
no
whole bear
Did you hear about the North African mermaid? ||They were from Algaeria.||
That's good one 😂
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
Russia ain't bad
quartz beacon
🧜
vocal basin
@quartz beacon non-trivial
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> 👋
Hello, I'm just going to listen to the conversations, I didn't come here to talk
As long as she can make good earning
vocal basin
algae are weird;
like, many of them are neither plants nor animals nor bacteria
vocal basin
<@327179626306863104> non-trivial
difficult to leave legally
whole bear
@quartz beacon Dude why are you talking to yourself, it kind of feels like that
quartz beacon
<@327179626306863104> Dude why are you talking to yourself, it kind of feels lik...
?
vocal basin
I was about to reply with ? too lol
whole bear
?
I mean, no one speaks as actively as you in voice
She is from where?
for me it's 3 pm
@quartz beacon Actually, I want to talk too. My accent is terrible but I know how to speak English
why not
download it
whole bear
<@327179626306863104> Actually, I want to talk too. My accent is terrible but I ...
Speak english
whole bear
Speak english
It feel like I'm speaking Spanish when I speak English
no it's cus there is nothing to do
whole bear
It feel like I'm speaking Spanish when I speak English
Dude, please speak english, I would hear you all day long!
@quartz beacon You are so funny lol
whole bear
no it's cus there is nothing to do
yes
whole bear
illegal in some places
You can't give up ur nationality?
Damn!
It's like prison
@somber heath Your voice is like the voice of an experienced wizard
vocal basin
You can't give up ur nationality?
Damn!
Russia has a list of "extremist" books, distribution of which is limited
whole bear
It's like prison
it's not in my country
whole bear
It's like prison
My friend, leave these issues behind, go and relax with a cup of tea lol
whole bear
Russia has a list of "extremist" books, distribution of which is limited
Same here, it's not just limited to russia!
it's just for trolling reasons to scare ppl
whole bear
it's not in my country
You can leave your country but ur country won't take you back!
and also i dont know german
somber heath
@rough silo 👋
whole bear
and also i now that hitler i f**** monster
Swastika is normal here, even the nazi swastika as some Indian find it symbolic!
whole bear
<@1245689091085963264> 👋
Jikky, try saying these words "Salam qaqa necesen", you will feel like you are a real expert in the language.
vocal basin
context matters for symbols
primal shadow
☮️
whole bear
@quartz beacon why not
whole bear
and also i now that hitler i f**** monster
i will not support hitler
his ideology is stupid
let's change topics
no soup is more of a culunary art
whole bear
and also i now that hitler i f**** monster
I do not appreciate these people talking about this at this time, everything is behind us, anyway, when you talk about this topic, Discord suspends your account, I tried it once
sus
why everyone is silent
whole bear
No problem
whole bear
does Yahya mean anything in Morocco?
Nah I don't think so
spare galleon
does Yahya mean anything in Morocco?
thats the name of god, dont be saying that
whole bear
thats the name of god, dont be saying that
Which god?
He is muslim!
whole bear
does Yahya mean anything in Morocco?
Yahya is a name prophet
whole bear
thats the name of god, dont be saying that
no
quartz beacon
Yahya is a name prophet
cause i know Moroccan youtuber named Yahiamice
quartz beacon
was curious, since you're also moroccan and use this word
quartz beacon
no john is the name of the prophet
Yohan
rough silo
i thought people would be talking about python here..
whole bear
no john is the name of the prophet
i dont agree with your view
vocal basin
i thought people would be talking about python here..
voice channels are off-topic
quartz beacon
or Γιάννης*
primal shadow
whole bear
How many charaters are in "PYTHON" ?
primal shadow
are what we talk about
whole bear
Why "PYTHON" ?
spare galleon
i dont agree with your view
i mean its not an opinion, its a fact in history
whole bear
Does real life Python has any law suit on "Python" ?
vocal basin
@quartz beacon and also when joining the channel with them already in it
somber heath
https://tenor.com/bfnl7.gif
spare galleon
voice channels are off-topic
im always off-topic, sooooooooo even when on-topic
quartz beacon
i mean its not an opinion, its a fact in history
translations are a thing, the origin is Γιάννης
primal shadow
It's not that bad
vocal basin
Does real life Python has any law suit on "Python" ?
realpython or Real-World Python?
whole bear
realpython or Real-World Python?
Do Python (Anaconda) and standard Python inherently agree to be slow in real-world applications?
primal shadow
Yes, there is serious collusion
quartz beacon
why not create a mc typo of mod list
requirements.txt
primal shadow
whole bear
requirements.txt
no like web site with a research thingy for mods
vocal basin
requirements.txt
NixOS as a management system for minecraft mods
whole bear
Do anaconada fart?
quartz beacon
quartz beacon
<:hemlock:836231230897782864> <:bnuuy:1159056726490877973>
@rugged root and the other Hemlock
whole bear
ask Hemlock that
Does hemlock owns python?
primal shadow
the portal gun would be pretty swell
primal shadow
Could I also make it let me pick the ammo?
So I could unlimited shoot my golden bulletS?
and buy houses
or countries
whole bear
Do cats eat kitten?
sometimes
if their newborn changes odor then yes
How about dog?
idk
How about humans?
@quartz beacon Good to know!
Ram mandir
whole bear
https://youtube.com/shorts/RHmnJiF67zc?si=gLYzA6HDIYdcnihf
We are always watching
whole bear
Ram mandir
This is an example
It was mosque
and before mosque it was temple
is there any git repo i can contribute
vocal basin
@peak depot depends on whether there is official rating
tetris effect is all ages, for example
@amber raptor yeah, opposite of hidden in library
if you need to hide everything, you need to hide and make it private
last time I played anything PvP on Steam was in September
(CS2)
and before that OpenTTD in March last year
seems like literally only those two games
in 2024
@wind raptor webhook one into the other
vocal basin
in 2024
2023: duck game (because developing a mod), battlebit (rip), tabletop simulator (we only played uno), fps chess (crypto miner)
vocal basin
I tried JetBrains dev containers
I did not like it
@amber raptor you can probably just return it as a file
it should mimetype it properly
vocal basin
<@113304266269003776> you can probably just return it as a file
(FileResponse)
whole bear
I write code so perfect that compilers thank me. Bugs fix themselves out of respect. Google searches me for answers. My algorithms run in O(0) time. Stack Overflow had to ban me for being too powerful. I don’t just program—I redefine computing itself.
wind raptor
Ok Chuck Norris
odd mulch
these bars though
last wigeon
limpid grail
@wind raptorDo people in here know how to create google extensions?
vocal basin
that would be mostly JS-/HTML- not Python-related
, since that's what Chromium extensions are written in
limpid grail
that would be mostly JS-/HTML- not Python-related
do you know any good JS servers?
vocal basin
idk if these are good, but at least a list exists
https://github.com/mhxion/awesome-discord-communities?tab=readme-ov-file#javascript
https://github.com/mhxion/awesome-discord-communities?tab=readme-ov-file#typescript
@peak depot funny timing of mentioning that as soon as I decide to listen again to the song I've been listening to a lot in the past weeks
idk how many times it's been exactly, it's not that easy to get those stats out of youtube
4 ads in 2.5 minutes, wtf youtube
can you pay instagram to remove those like with youtube?
in case of VK, the answer is no, I think
so Instagram might be the same
@peak depot
(instagram)
this might be a law thing
(if they estimate they earn more from ads than from subscriptions, then they have no reason to offer subscriptions except if the laws demand such option)
((per user))
A year ago, we launched Subscription for no ads in the EU to comply with changing regulatory requirements, specifically the GDPR and the DMA.
it was indeed a law thing
upbeat bobcat
Which game?
primal shadow
Odsparks
primal shadow
I'll stream in a bit, gotta do some chores first
assuming hte appropriate people are still around
Lemme go get them out of hte way
hollow inlet
have dapp programer is there?
vocal basin
what's dapp
hollow inlet
is blockchain app
vocal basin
"if it's blockchain, therefore it's not really decentralised so what could possibly d stand for 
"
I have some understanding of the underlying technology but I don't deal with things like Ethereum directly
hollow inlet
"if it's blockchain, therefore it's not really decentralised so what could possi...
i want to learnin it. it is very attractive and exciting
vocal basin
i want to learnin it. it is very attractive and exciting
do you have a project started already or are you only researching how existing projects are made for now?
hollow inlet
do you have a project started already or are you only researching how existing p...
i have project but not programing
vocal basin
imo proper distributed systems are way more exciting than blockchain-based abstractions, because they aren't trying to represent the world linearly (because it isn't linear)
hollow inlet
distributed systems like that??
vocal basin
stuff like https://raft.github.io/
this is somewhat close to blockchain in that it is linearising state changes
but not all systems are like that -- not systems require a universal consistent change history
hollow inlet
this is somewhat close to blockchain in that it is linearising state changes
nice but i dont know wthat u say! becuse im just researcher now
vocal basin
(those two examples I gave are very different, for completely different environments and trust models)
another common example is databases;
for simplicity, you can look at a replicated key-value store:
how many replicas do we write to before be decide the write succeeded? how many replicas do we read from?
do we use eventual consistency? strong consistency? weak consistency?
@dire pebble is the question about data normalisation? or query planning/indexes? or something else?
docker
@hearty knot @languid cedar (I didn't see which one of you two was asking, so will ping both)
streaming permissions are typically given on a temporary basis if you have something specific you want to stream (e.g. a project you want to show or a problem you want help debugging)
vocal basin
if there's a moderator already present in the voice chat, you can ask them to give you video perms (don't forget to say what exactly you want to stream)
hearty knot
Later
dire pebble
@vocal basin Am I gonna download the one with 2.1MB size?
vocal basin
I see that docker is not essential for my path
it makes things way way easier
installing the database directly onto the host is going to be very troublesome
dire pebble
installing the database directly onto the host is going to be *very* troublesome
I want to learn what's going on with databases, so the corresponding difficulty is a good thing to me
vocal basin
it is not a useful type of troublesome, but okay
in production, it's generally going to be docker or equivalent thereof
(Docker, Kubernetes, Zones; or, if you don't manage it, some SaaS provider)
dire pebble
<@264054779888533515> Am I gonna download the one with 2.1MB size?
@vocal basin I should download this, right?
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> Am I gonna download the one with 2.1MB size?
big and small installer are different in whether they're self-contained
web one will download things later
a bit weird that it's 32-bit
is there no 64-bit option?
dire pebble
a bit weird that it's 32-bit
That's why I am asking
It's just the address which deep seek guided me to
vocal basin
there is also https://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/
dire pebble
@vocal basin Do you have experience with MySQL?
vocal basin
all my database-interacting code is written for SQLite and PostgreSQL;
but I have experience deploying and upgrading mysql and mariadb
vocal basin
how are you?
still attempting to play minesweeper
https://minesweeper.online/game/4366486915
dire pebble
all my database-interacting code is written for SQLite and PostgreSQL;
but I hav...
I also heard of SQLite but still don't exactly know where the difference technically occurs, it's actually better for me to use SQLite, but I've decided to use SQL for educational purpose
willow gate
still attempting to play minesweeper
<https://minesweeper.online/game/4366486915...
Nice , looks quite big now
vocal basin
SQLite is targeted towards embedded/simple use
it's a single file, not a service
unlike most other DBs
willow gate
last i rember you have teach me how to play now i forgot
willow gate
still attempting to play minesweeper
<https://minesweeper.online/game/4366486915...
You have make it really awesome
dire pebble
it's a single file, not a service
I'd like to experience usage of a server, so I will use SQL even thought my project is a quite simple app
willow gate
how many daily active users are?
dire pebble
@vocal basin It's not gonna be a trouble to use SQL for a simple thing, right? I'm almost sure it's worth even only for experience
vocal basin
how many daily active users are?
I don't have the stats for minesweeper.online (since it's not my project), but it seems to be several thousands, judging by how current online count is 1.5K
willow gate
I don't have the stats for minesweeper.online (since it's not my project), but i...
okay i thought its your's
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> It's not gonna be a trouble to use SQL for a simple thing,...
MySQL/MariaDB/PostgreSQL/SQLite should all be fine
SQL databases that you shouldn't use (some examples):
MSSQL (Microsoft SQL Server), Oracle DB, MS Access
willow gate
I don't have the stats for minesweeper.online (since it's not my project), but i...
wanna play chess?
dire pebble
SQL databases that you shouldn't use (some examples):
MSSQL (Microsoft SQL Serve...
Could you briefly explain why?
Or shall I ask it to AI not to take your time?
vocal basin
Oracle DB you shouldn't use because of Oracle (i.e. it's a product that's only made so that you can pay money to Oracle consultants, it has no real utility nowadays)
also it's proprietary and actively rotting on the inside
why not MSSQL: mostly because Microsoft themselves don't believe in it, they're moving to postgres
why not MS Access: proprietary + it values being part of and integrated with ms office more than being a database
vocal basin
wanna play chess?
willow gate
https://lichess.org/YId5tfB2
gg, it took me 1 min to know its mate
willow gate
https://lichess.org/YId5tfB2
one more?
willow gate
okay
vocal basin
I aborted and made a rematch, should flip sides
willow gate
i need white but its okay
did my game play improve or you are not playing seriously?
vocal basin
I'm not really thinking in advance right now; I think you used to play more strongly at some point in the past
willow gate
I'm not really thinking in advance right now; I think you used to play more stro...
i am playing moves to quickly without thinking
willow gate
I'm not really thinking in advance right now; I think you used to play more stro...
Bye , Good luck!
round gust
ill pay some1 to fix up my dosser, Make more powerful make it so it dosent lag me
i already have coded 1 just need it tweaked
$50
rn
somber heath
ill pay some1 to fix up my dosser, Make more powerful make it so it dosent lag m...
!rule 9 🙂
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!rule 5
wise cargoBOT
quartz beacon
ill pay some1 to fix up my dosser, Make more powerful make it so it dosent lag m...
!rule 1
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@slate radish @brave vine 👋
brave vine
@rapid crown why can't participate in voice chat
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!e py value = 102837 while value: value, digit = divmod(value, 10) print(digit)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
value = 102837
while value:
value, digit = divmod(value, 10)
pr...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 7
002 | 3
003 | 8
004 | 2
005 | 0
006 | 1
// % divmod
!e py value = 102837 while value: value, digit = value // 10, value % 10 print(digit)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
value = 102837
while value:
value, digit = value // 10, value % 10
...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 7
002 | 3
003 | 8
004 | 2
005 | 0
006 | 1
somber heath
@lapis venture 👋
slate radish
and I have to wait for 3 days to speak
😢
XD
kidding I mean I barely speak
I'm not one of them
Do you know one of the admins?
that sounds great
well cause I want them to give me the access
Rules are meant to be broken
what do you think
bro what do you mean I can't turn it on I have to wait 3 days
also with over 50 messages in the server
I'm a good listener I will
it is 😢
True
I mean sometimes those type of people give joy to the server
not all of them but some
those big words
I mean that's indeed true
you have a point
Hello @frosty shell
lapis venture
Hey...
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
frosty shell
https://circlecreativematrix.com/ @somber heath
astral coral
whole bear
@somber heath hello again
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
pygames
rough silo
<@1245689091085963264> 👋
👋
whole bear
@astral coral You draw a very interesting photo
But the problem is that no matter how much I look at the photo, I don't understand anything lol
ok
astral coral
@whole bear
whole bear
<@456226577798135808>
Are you going to make the game completely or are you only going to do the design part?
cool
If you continue like this, a good masterpiece can emerge
I'm going to listen to some music Good work
thanks
whole bear
@astral coral hello
astral coral
hey
whole bear
how is your work going?
whole bear
just doing visual assets for now
okay
somber heath
Or go to the toilet.
@gentle flint We had some lineworks done nearby the other day and they apparently fucked it up. Our powerboards kept complaining of under/overvolting and kept shutting down. Turns out, the workers hadn't properly anchored the lines to the connector points on the pole, so they were arcing.
It buggered up one of our tv recorder units.
But I don't think it was electronic damage, I think it just didn't like the power being shut down constantly.
So I think the software got confused.
We didn't have to.
Freebie replacement.
It wasn't listening to the hard reset sequence.
Overvolting, yes.
Ahh, so if it's warm from being operational, low resistance.
Iiiinteresting.
More the point for me, though, was the potential fire danger presented by the arcing poles.
Especially here.
Yes.
Excuse me.
gentle flint
you are excused
somber heath
You don't think there's being to be anything in the pictures? "Hm, it would seem that you're completely transparent to x-rays."
@whole bear👋
Who says they have to be together?
candid panther
@whole bear just use the text channel normally
whole bear
i cant speak why
rugged root
Check the #voice-verification channel
That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
somber heath
!e py replacements = {'ass': 'butt'} phrase = 'The leader was assassinated.' for key, value in replacements.items(): phrase = phrase.replace(key, value) print(phrase)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
replacements = {'ass': 'butt'}
phrase = 'The leader was assassinated.'
...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
The leader was buttbuttinated.
@unique wyvern I blame you. I'm starting my journey into Nim
somber heath
bbiab
hoary tapir
yo
somber heath
https://tenor.com/bVttt.gif
unique wyvern
<@431341013479718912> I blame you. I'm starting my journey into Nim
rip
rugged root
Your empathy is endearing
gentle flint
unique wyvern
somber heath
Y'all? Oh.
primal shadow
I say yall all the time
nowhere from the south
but it works good
even better is yalls
you all ... plural
you
is plural
rugged root
I'll stick with folks
somber heath
Youse ewes use Yu's yews?
rugged root
@narrow jewel Yo
primal shadow
Subnautica is great
The sequel should be better with proper MP support
I never got terribly into SDV
with mods
but not proper support
I never tried BZ, but that didn't have proper MP either
pulsar shale
where's
primal shadow
But 2 should launch with MP
Cyclops
❤️ the sub
Cyclops is the ultimate QoL
floating base
❤️ me some automation games
somber heath
@hoary tapir 👋
primal shadow
Got to the "end" of the current content in Oddparks
b ut there's still much building and optimizing
hoary tapir
<@733932839015546920> 👋
Hello 👋
primal shadow
and one more major update on the way
tacit crane
f"{"\n".join([f"{data.get('shell')}SHELL : {data.get('sell_price')} {CurrencyConfig.CURRENCY}" for data in shells_data])}"```CP Was alright, wouldn't call it GOTE
Factorio, there's a desert island game
I liked the stabby arms
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
deep acorn
i am good thx
i new start bootcamp
thx bro
ai and python
u know
topic inc python and ai bootcamp
actually my english is bad so that sorry
i came from turkiye this server
are u studying ?
yes me too studying
bach degree
thx man
software engineer
why i am not speaking
somber heath
why i am not speaking
somber heath
Days, not minutes.
deep acorn
oh day
okey thank you
turkiye
you know
what about you
usa
nice brother
you are very lucky
economic and techng
is perfect in to the usa
tacit crane
deep acorn
is this not true?
i am sorry
how old are you btw
35
25
what
which one
oh okey
your voice is young
i am sorry
fdslhgkudhukfg
oh really my english
so bad
actually turkish lng is hard
so translate is not comfort
deep acorn
sometimes I can't understand you
rugged root
sometimes I can't understand you
It takes some getting used to, sorry
primal shadow
I can put the cobra kit on a miata
but it's still a fucking miata
not a shelby cobra
I gotta properly set up VIM and try actually using it on a real project
vocal basin
<@431341013479718912> I blame you. I'm starting my journey into Nim
I don't like clicking and pointing and touch controls
@rugged root too fast
it should be negative, actually
rugged root
not a shelby cobra
Took me too long to remember that's a car
vocal basin
@unique wyvern fork likely
primal shadow
I ht the download button, it was over before I could check how quick
so I don't think it's on hteir end
vocal basin
@rugged root don't worry, file saving feature is not important, you'll forget where you saved them anyways
rugged root
I don't need to be cursed in such a way
tacit crane
so I don't think it's on hteir end
vocal basin
far would mean high latency
deep acorn
i have a question
vocal basin
not low speed
deep acorn
really sorry
i was able to learn python in my last lesson, but sometimes I forget and most of the time I do research with hackerrank, I'm afraid I can't find a bad job in english, I'm doing a graduation project on artificial intelligence, I'll do it by heart, but I'm learning, little by little. I need to take certified courses, but they are really expensive. do you know a route, can you really help, I'm sorry to be sincere and I'm stressed, now maybe I won't understand what you're going to say but I'll be really grateful if you have a roadmap that you can show me, I don't have friends at school and this is the last lesson this year, so my motivation is very low. I even thought about quitting this job.
tacit crane
vocal basin
i was able to learn python in my last lesson, but sometimes I forget and most of...
what is a roadmap, in your understanding?
deep acorn
i want to ai engineer or data engineer idk , i just interesting ai and python
deep acorn
just love python
primal shadow
vocal basin
primal shadow
was an effort to screenshot before it disappears
tacit crane
maybe i am just far
deep acorn
Is there any chance you could write to me?
vocal basin
(I remembered correctly)
rugged root
Huh, I'll be damned
vocal basin
why is it defaulting to China, oh wait the VPN is in Hong Kong
rugged root
Wonder if they got it purely to use the tech for AIM
rugged root
why is it defaulting to China, *oh wait the VPN is in Hong Kong*
Why
Why is it connected to Hong Kong
vocal basin
50 KBps
unique wyvern
somber heath
@novel tulip 👋
unique wyvern
wise cargoBOT
willow light
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/VLYQ the code for reference
rugged root
always fun to get errors that I haven't seen before. PROGRESS
.encode()
tacit crane
deep acorn
i was able to learn python in my last lesson, but sometimes I forget and most of...
thank you for everything
willow light
Well, good news, we've gone from a TypeError to a ValueError, so we have progress
from what I can tell, this means I'm on the right track for this step in the challenge.
so now I get to figure out where I screwed up
The debugger and the docs: my two homes away from home.
tacit crane
your decode function has some issue
fossil grotto
hey yall , i am absolutely new to Python and to this server, just wanted to say hi and thank you in advanced for any assistance with ptentially stupid questions i might have 🙂
willow light
I could tell that, but at this point now I know it is definitely my implementation and not my understanding of the language. So now it's just a murder mystery where I am investigating myself.
No mic today, in the library.
@cosmic bison o/
@cosmic bison could be worse, I briefly did gig work where it was "$33 per hour" but the fine print was "only time spent actively typing on work that gets accepted counts as paid time"
rugged root
That's.... so dumb
willow light
Yeah, don't work at Outlier AI.
rugged root
@mint canyon Suuuup
fossil grotto
Is this the right channel for me to be asking questions ?
rugged root
Typically we recommend people use the help system (see #❓｜how-to-get-help for more details on that)
willow light
United Sucks, but I'm currently on Ambetter through the ACA Marketplace...for now.
willow light
It is better than nothing, although I probably qualify for medicaid this year.
This is why I wake up at 5am every day, so when Daylight Savings happens I just wake up at 6am instead. No biggie.
Basically I refused to adapt when I came home from Italy a few years ago and deliberately gave myself persistent jetlag.
@rugged root does the self flagellation include wearing the horse hair shirts like in the middle ages?
fossil grotto
well i just have some general theory questions at the moment , as i said im very green to python , so im practicing running sets, tuples, and dictionaries ,
In a broad view , how are these connected in terms of using it for data analysis ? namely the tuples, sets, and dictionaries ?
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> does the self flagellation include wearing the horse hair s...
Burlap
willow light
AF on the case
vocal basin
@rugged root it collapses like a star; sh_ttier nova
willow light
Typing in their specific text boxes on their site is what they were tracking.
rugged root
well i just have some general theory questions at the moment , as i said im very...
So tuples, sets, lists, and dictionaries are all considered container types. tuples are like lists but you can't change them after you define them
willow light
Anything else was unpaid. Such as actually working out the problems.
rugged root
sets and dictionaries use what's called a hash map, with the main benefit being that you can quickly look, to see if a value is in them
willow light
When there's a bug bounty for docs/devops bugs, I'd do it more often.
rugged root
dictionaries are key-value pairs. Think of it like an actual dictionary; you want to know the definition of "ham". You look it up and them bam, you have the definition of ham
willow light
Just because people don't talk about it doesn't mean they aren't doing it.
fossil grotto
sorry but whats a "hash map" ?
cosmic bison
vocal basin
`sets` and `dictionaries` use what's called a `hash map`, with the main benefit ...
your typography is hurting my TeXed brain
rugged root
Think of it like.... Let's say that you have values. When you put it into the container, it gets assigned its own special spot
The container knows exactly where that spot is, so long as you're looking for that particular thing
willow light
Bug bounty is nice and all, but I want a more predictable, consistent, and reliable income stream.
Which is part of why I am working on learning blue collar skills such as outboard motor repair.
vocal basin
don't worry, thanks to modern AI technology, the supply of bugs is quite steady
willow light
Lots of demand for blue collar in Maine because all of the contractors are dying of old age.
vocal basin
though if a company mainly uses AI to build their products they're unlikely to understand the concept of a bug bounty
willow light
I use pdb more often than I use the regular python repl lol
I bet there's something in Python or Rust for that.
Why did you raise your voice? we were able to hear you just fine before.
brb my reserved spot just ran out of reservation time, need to find a better spot to get stuff done
whole bear
Website looks cheap
You can use component for react instead of making in css
@dry jasper Yes boss
We have understood
Next time I have some idea I won't use 3d printer to make product but industrial one
Good advice
versed heath
wise cargoBOT
Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.
versed heath
Debugging middleware caught exception in streamed response at a point where response headers were already sent.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/pi/myenv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/werkzeug/wsgi.py", line 256, in next
return self._next()
^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/home/pi/myenv/lib/python3.11/site-packages/werkzeug/wrappers/response.py", line 32, in _iter_encoded
for item in iterable:
File "/home/pi/Desktop/main.py", line 50, in gen
processed_frame, detections_info= detector.process_image(frame)
ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2)
import os
import cv2
import numpy as np
from ultralytics import YOLO
class YOLODetector:
def init(self, model_path, conf_thresh=0.5):
if not os.path.exists(model_path):
raise FileNotFoundError(f'Model file not found: {model_path}')
self.model = YOLO(model_path, task='detect')
self.labels = self.model.names
self.conf_thresh = conf_thresh
self.bbox_colors = [(164,120,87), (68,148,228), (93,97,209), (178,182,133),
(88,159,106), (96,202,231), (159,124,168), (169,162,241),
(98,118,150), (172,176,184)]
def process_image(self, image):
if isinstance(image, str):
if not os.path.exists(image):
raise FileNotFoundError(f'Image file not found: {image}')
frame = cv2.imread(image) # Load image from file
elif isinstance(image, np.ndarray):
frame = image # Use image directly
else:
raise TypeError("Input must be a file path or a NumPy array.")
results = self.model(frame, verbose=False)
detections = results[0].boxes
for i in range(len(detections)):
xyxy = detections[i].xyxy.cpu().numpy().squeeze()
xmin, ymin, xmax, ymax = xyxy.astype(int)
classidx = int(detections[i].cls.item())
conf = detections[i].conf.item()
if conf > self.conf_thresh:
color = self.bbox_colors[classidx % len(self.bbox_colors)]
cv2.rectangle(frame, (xmin, ymin), (xmax, ymax), color, 2)
return frame
@dry jasper can you ask for me too
dry jasper
import numpy as np
import ncnn
import torch
def test_inference():
torch.manual_seed(0)
in0 = torch.rand(1, 3, 320, 320, dtype=torch.float)
out = []
with ncnn.Net() as net:
net.load_param("yolo11n_ncnn_model\model.ncnn.param")
net.load_model("yolo11n_ncnn_model\model.ncnn.bin")
with net.create_extractor() as ex:
ex.input("in0", ncnn.Mat(in0.squeeze(0).numpy()).clone())
_, out0 = ex.extract("out0")
out.append(torch.from_numpy(np.array(out0)).unsqueeze(0))
if len(out) == 1:
return out[0]
else:
return tuple(out)
if __name__ == "__main__":
print(test_inference())
not sure what to think of this snippet i found in the wild...
do a try-except, and then suppress the exception?
seems weird
dry jasper
from ultralytics import YOLO
# Load the YOLO11 model
model = YOLO("yolo11n.pt")
# Export the model to NCNN format
model.export(format="ncnn") # creates '/yolo11n_ncnn_model'
# Load the exported NCNN model
ncnn_model = YOLO("./yolo11n_ncnn_model")
# Run inference
results = ncnn_model("https://ultralytics.com/images/bus.jpg")
primal shadow
Let the haters hate
They're going to anyways
You should ask
they're afk, it'll be fine
@flint hill this says the Discord account is a day old
this is when they got here
been on Discord a bit, newer to this server, though I first came here in 2020
but I left and returned at a point
Hemlock got to the server after I got to Discord
so not that long ago
that's not bad...
I imagine that's the case for many
I imagine DIscord has more htan doubled itsu sers since 2018
If 3 years from now is soon
I wouldn't call 2028 soon, not soon enough for sure
considering where I live and who's running it into the ground for the next 4
whole bear
Hey @versed heath 👋
1️⃣ Open Google Chrome (or any other browser).
2️⃣ Visit any website of your choice.
3️⃣ Right-click anywhere on the page and select "Inspect" (or press F12).
4️⃣ Go to the Console tab.
5️⃣ Type the following command and press Enter:
window.devicePixelRatio
Can't you just hit f12?
whole bear
Yes
primal shadow
My F12 has a ⭐ icon on it
primal shadow
Looks like Mute on F1
whole bear
whole bear
Looks like Mute on F1
Yes
whole bear
In this mode, I can use fn + f1 to mute volume
whole bear
in this mode just f1
primal shadow
opens help?
whole bear
opens help?
wdym?
whole bear
Yes
whole bear
In this mode it is mute for speaker
@versed heath Hello nerdy!
@primal shadow Don't you have custom key option for windows shortcut?
Like desktops in windows, etc?
primal shadow
I can program some keys sometimes
primal shadow
"default" not quite, but courtesy of M$FT
Though after I did that, I learned I can reprogram the touchpad's 4 finger gestures to manage my media as well
so I mostly use those
whole bear
Oh
whole bear
Is this third party?
whole bear
Hmm
Ah ur using powertoys
But could you change ur shortcut for your desktops view and change between desktops ?
@primal shadow
primal shadow
these things?
They're able to be changed by default IIRC
That's what I did, I Set the 4 fingers to media
whole bear
Actually it can't change defualt shortcuts like desktop view or switching between different desktop!
primal shadow
pretty sure that's what it was origianlly
whole bear
Nah
windows shortcut key
That's touchpad gesture is different
like ctrl + alt + tab
to switch between tabs
windows + tab is for task view
I think you cann't change key for this using powertoys
primal shadow
https://www.autohotkey.com/docs/v1/index.htm might work for you?
mossy cedar
upbeat bobcat
MRT?
celest oyster
I think I blew up xai, openai, deepseek, anthropic on my web site
hallow isle
import cv2
import numpy as np
def calculate_black_percentage(image_path, threshold=128):
# Load the image in grayscale
image = cv2.imread(image_path, cv2.IMREAD_GRAYSCALE)
# Apply threshold to classify pixels as black or white
_, binary_image = cv2.threshold(image, threshold, 255, cv2.THRESH_BINARY)
# Count black and white pixels
total_pixels = binary_image.size
black_pixels = np.count_nonzero(binary_image == 0)
# Calculate the percentage of black pixels
black_percentage = (black_pixels / total_pixels) * 100
return black_percentage
if name == "main":
image_path = "image.png" # Change this to your image path
black_percentage = calculate_black_percentage(image_path)
print(f"Black areas: {black_percentage:.2f}%")
mossy cedar
upbeat bobcat
primal shadow
hello
mossy cedar
primal shadow
never end the ' on the firsdt lin
or on the 2nd
It generally prompts for updates
Need an admin for permission
No admins around
so no permission around
primal shadow
Did you try running that?
mossy cedar
about to wait
primal shadow
Lines 13 and 14 seems off to me
Does an np.array LT/GT return an array?
or a bool
np.array < int returns array?
I don't use np
rugged root
@sour stirrup Yo
@unique wyvern Wait, there IS a const
It's just that let is single assignment
const just needs to be at compile time
stuck furnace
What're you working on? 👀
primal shadow
I'm also not certain you want to sum them
stuck furnace
Oh right, like metalurgy?
primal shadow
as the list should be a bunch of values, so summing them would give a whole LOT of white, and not as many, but still many more black, unless a significant portion of the black are black black
rugged root
Oh this is weird to me. I'm looking over Nim, and this is how they do case statements:
let name = readLine(stdin)
case name
of "":
echo "Poor soul, you lost your name?"
of "name":
echo "Very funny, your name is name."
of "Dave", "Frank":
echo "Cool name!"
else:
echo "Hi, ", name, "!"
I've never seen of used in this manner
stuck furnace
If in doubt, try printing out the arrays and see if they look right
rugged root
Why. Why light blue
rugged root
@whole bear Yo
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> Yo
sup?
primal shadow
how is that comparison working, unless a PIL image turns into a fancy list
primal shadow
I see
rugged root
@arctic lantern If you're wondering why you can't talk, check the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
primal shadow
Oh shit, they do return a fun list when you evaluate them like that
of bools
so the math should be fine
stuck furnace
Oh shit, they do return a fun list when you evaluate them like that
Yeah it's weird getting used to when you first start using numpy, but super useful
rugged root
Oh I haaaaaate this:
inc i
Increment using inc
That's so strange
Going to take me a hot minute to get used to loops having their own scope
stuck furnace
That's so strange
Every language has to have a few weird design choices
rugged root
Every language has to have a few weird design choices
Fair
stuck furnace
But maybe there's a good reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
mossy cedar
no ; s in python bro.
also a is an array and 200 is a integer so it cant be compared ... in m code im using comparison between pixel counts
rugged root
But maybe there's a good reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spite
On the plus side, you can have named breaks
Oh boy, another one that's going to take me a bit, 1 .. 10 is inclusive on both ends
when is interesting. It can be evaluated at compile time
Same as if with a couple other differences
Still neat
primal shadow
no ; s in python bro.
also a is an array and 200 is a integer so it cant be com...
lol, they don't hurt
force of habit
mossy cedar
waaaat
rugged root
-sighs- In nim, they aren't called methods or functions
They're called procedures
Just.... why
I feel like this is one of the only languages that does that
stuck furnace
Wellll technically that's more correct (some would say)
unique wyvern
Oh I haaaaaate this:
```nim
inc i
```
this is just a result of mutable ints and uniform call syntax
rugged root
this is just a result of mutable ints and uniform call syntax
Me still no likey
unique wyvern
like, you can do inc(1) or 1.inc even
rugged root
Oh fair
gentle flint
I feel like this is one of the only languages that does that
fortran does it too
algol
pascal has procedures and functions which are different things
stuck furnace
When I'm being pedantic, I call python functions procedures
And reserve "function" for pure functions without side-effects
real valve
might be a dumb question but is doing projects in minecraft a good way to develop programming skills
real valve
like i have seen some cool things like minecraft computers
gentle flint
pascal uses functions for code blocks which return a result, procedures for code blocks which do not return a result
real valve
is it efficient though
primal shadow
efficient?
gentle flint
procedure is an operation, function is a calculation
rugged root
practicing programming makes you better at programming
Okay but what if you're reaaaaaaaaaally crappy at it
real valve
optimized growth
stuck furnace
@woeful blaze can you explain again what you're trying to do? I didn't follow. Do you have an example?
primal shadow
more efficient than playing with sticks in the dirt? Yes
primal shadow
more efficient than using a "proper" programming language where you aren't concerned with physically placing large blocks to make hte computer? unlikelyt
rugged root
Crap, back later again
primal shadow
But > 0 is still > 0
So I won't say it's the msot efficient, but it's likely to keep your attention longer
and be less boring
stuck furnace
What's the application?
real valve
quick question how far should you have achieved in programming in 3 days
primal shadow
so you might end up spending more time on it
real valve
im on my day 3
primal shadow
not much
real valve
i can do basic functions
primal shadow
that's good progress
primal shadow
What's the total count of hte array?
run it against a smaller image where you know the answer
then you can better diagnose where things are going wrong
real valve
is it true that the easier the language is for humans the longer time it takes for the computer to process it
mossy cedar
on it
mossy cedar
is it true that the easier the language is for humans the longer time it takes f...
yes
primal shadow
make a 10x10 image where you've got 10 black , 20 white, the rest 128/128/128 grey to not be counted
woeful blaze
<@1318626588560199692> can you explain again what you're trying to do? I didn't ...
No but why I want to do is take an import let's say I put in time as a keyword from an input box and then it will search for that specific import within each python file sure it would be taking a long time but I can find almost any file with an import then so if I'm looking for a pie torch project that I can't remember the name of because my brain just forgets things immediately I can type in the imports that I'm using and it will narrow it down to the project
mossy cedar
make a 10x10 image where you've got 10 black , 20 white, the rest 128/128/128 gr...
on it sir!1
real valve
how come if some languages are faster why dont people just only use that language
like if c++ is the fastest why not only use c++
what is the use of other languages
primal shadow
how come if some languages are faster why dont people just only use that languag...
C++ sucks to write
IMO
stuck furnace
No but why I want to do is take an import let's say I put in time as a keyword f...
This sounds like something you'd use ack for: https://beyondgrep.com/
It's for like searching code in a folder with regular expressions.
real valve
why do people use different languages for different things
primal shadow
preference
mossy cedar
is that it
complex things takes easier framework
primal shadow
a decision must be made
real valve
is it all preference
primal shadow
generally the decision maker has a preference
real valve
so no technical reason
mossy cedar
technically we could all write it in assembly
primal shadow
that's where personal preference comes in
mossy cedar
and skill
primal shadow
Computers are fast enough that if it doesn't matter it doesn't matter
vast majority of the time, it doesn't matter
stuck furnace
This sounds like something you'd use `ack` for: https://beyondgrep.com/
With ack, you would use a command like ack 'import foobar', and it would list the files that contain that text. It's similar to grep, but more optimised for searching code.
primal shadow
And with ag, you would do similar, but faster
stuck furnace
@mossy cedar Try using a slider to get the threshold right: ```py
import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from matplotlib.widgets import Slider
arr = ...
fig, (ax1, ax2) = plt.subplots(nrows=2)
foo = ax1.imshow((arr >= 0) * 255)
slider = Slider(ax2, '', 0, 255)
def update(val):
foo.set_data((arr >= val) * 255)
slider.on_changed(update)
plt.show()
Yep
mossy cedar
stuck furnace
Oh right
woeful blaze
This sounds like something you'd use `ack` for: https://beyondgrep.com/
Said something already built into python or at least an import that can use
mossy cedar
here
stuck furnace
Said something already built into python or at least an import that can use
I don't think there's anything like that in the standard library, but you could implement it yourself in python using pathlib and re: ```py
from pathlib import Path
import re
root = Path('/some/directory')
pattern = re.compile(r"^import ([a-zA-Z0-9_.]+)", re.MULTILINE)
imports = {
name
for filepath in root.rglob('*.py')
for name in pattern.findall(filepath.read_text())
}
print(*sorted(imports))
I just cobbled that together in a few minutes, so it's probably not perfect.
hallow isle
yes