@somber heath hey
#voice-chat-text-0
edgy edge
Hi @somber heath and @astral coral
somber heath
@digital silo 👋
digital silo
Hi
edgy edge
@somber heath I made a W program
@somber heath W means win, but my sentence means "I made an amazing program"
gen alpha sentence
@astral coral W never means negative
L does tho
astral coral
i m a w p
edgy edge
I got some problems with docker
keeps saying
Starting the Docker Engine...
Docker Engine is the underlying technology that runs containers
@somber heath I need it to download snekbox
@somber heath Run & download
edgy edge
Can you explain to me what While Loops is for?
It loops, until a current operation isn't met.
It is basically "repeat until"
austere swallow
Ah okay!
edgy edge
while True:
print('Hello World')
It will loop and say print('Hello World') until it is False
while 2 == 3:
print('Hello World')
It won't ```python
print('Hello World')
You're welcome. Ask me any other questions if you have any.
austere swallow
Thanks guys. Another question: I'm new on Python world and my background is social science. What should I do to improve the Python skills? I mean, how can I do the practice? Is there any website for case studies or something that I could practice on? Everything is so foreign to me right now. Thanks in advance!!
somber heath
!res
wise cargoBOT
astral coral
@austere swallow Sociology or Psychology?
edgy edge
Thanks guys. Another question: I'm new on Python world and my background is soci...
There is this thing called Brilliant. It is better than reading Resources, but you sometimes have to read Resources when you are more of a Pro.
austere swallow
<@824817730963767336> Sociology or Psychology?
Anthropology! 
austere swallow
There is this thing called [Brilliant](https://brilliant.org/). It is better tha...
Alright thanks Pyce
edgy edge
Alright thanks Pyce
You're very much welcome.
somber heath
@uneven walrus @full moss 👋
full moss
Hi
edgy edge
@somber heath Who had to go?
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
edgy edge
hi @austere swallow again
austere swallow
Hiii. I have question not related to Python but it's related to technology. Can I ask it here or should I just shut up
astral coral
yes, you may
austere swallow
Alriiiight. Which one is better for media productivity? Samsung S24 or iPhone 15?
Sounds stupid I know but I try to find the answer
And Zak i can't hear your voice
astral coral
iPhone probably better
austere swallow
Why?
astral coral
its optimisted for it?
I use Android myself
but I use it for more than media prod
edgy edge
Alriiiight. Which one is better for media productivity? Samsung S24 or iPhone 15...
Samsung
iPhone is not great, and you are hearing this from an iPhone user.
astral coral
Thinking: Would it be worth making basic infographics (with cute characters) about the basics of Python? for the newbs?
I can put this guy to use :L
astral coral
like this is a quick 5 min rough rough idea but is a starting point 🙂
and make a series of these really simple things?
quartz beacon
I can put this guy to use :L
This looks like a horror creature that becomes evil at the midpoint
astral coral
This looks like a horror creature that becomes evil at the midpoint
Maybe he does 0.0 ....
1 sec opal
somber heath
All good. I'm not in a hurry.
Hoy hi.
"This", the word?
Or something you want to show me?
Oh. The images.
somber heath
We have the ducks.
astral coral
?
somber heath
etc etc
somber heath
@blissful mango 👋
astral coral
:L
somber heath
Not to discourage your current efforts.
astral coral
nah your cool
just doing this outta boredom tbh
thought was a good idea?
anyway feedback would be good
imaging going so far just to be told we a) don't need or b) don't like :L
somber heath
Maybe your character could have a duckmoji shirt.
astral coral
somber heath
@quartz beaconHe's in despair because programming is hard!
What's the thing with the circle on the right?
Oh.
astral coral
its mouse :/
somber heath
So that's it's arm.
quartz beacon
astral coral
So that's it's arm.
wing
vocal basin
somber heath
Jikky, I do.
Experience in 2 and 3/.5
Heard a little about 4.
Hi, Milien.
Quick! Think of every answer you probably got wrong!
Ah, what a disaster!
Dooooom!
astral coral
vocal basin
somber heath
Have you seen Python Discord's YouTube video?
astral coral
no?
somber heath
Hooray!
astral coral
quartz beacon
quartz beacon
astral coral
astral coral
ahhh kk
quartz beacon
@faint prawn you can text here
vocal basin
connection experimentation time
peak depot
Stuck in my head: https://youtu.be/eINgmy4dUOA?si=IxzklFFhH42q_gCn
vocal basin
VC1 works lmao
astral coral
oof
vocal basin
yes
upper basin
@astral coral Osyra is in the call if you want to talk to him about the thing.
astral coral
Sorry, in bed atm, having psychotic symptoms. I have checked out the discord, I'll talk to him when my brain calms down. Thanks though man! :)
amber raptor
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
astral coral
@obsidian dragon https://youtube.com/watch?v=bHqsHRwUDzM&si=9TFBp8crGPt8LQVB
Basically it's my ambition to build a gpu stack, host a unfiltered llm and rag it to be this guy
Something like this with a pci16 riser attached mobo like this one
And I wanna host it privately, with other stuff, where only a select handful of people can get access
C.A.B.A.L stands for computer augmented biologically assisted lifeform
To be true to the namesake
I was gonna add like a module with brine shrimp
Monitor them to add real world randomness to the system
I know there's no real reason for it
But if I'm going so far, I might as well use some form of biological element too it
I can't afford cultured neurons
The GPUs I'm gonna use will be basically anything I can find at this point
My friend has a 1060, I know it's not ideal but it's a start
astral coral
C.A.B.A.L stands for computer augmented biologically assisted lifeform
I deffo got this name wrong, urgh brain being weird
obsidian dragon
astral coral
Urgh
amber raptor
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/tiny11-gets-a-major-update-can-now...
Sure that's not official SKU
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
somber heath
I would know the difference.
rugged root
❤️
somber heath
Works reasonably okay for me.
dense ibex
Works reasonably okay for me.
I have issues with the UI not working. I.e need to click something and nothing will happen
upper basin
https://tenor.com/view/futurama-chains-prison-gif-4728714
It's a dragon, but it's a girl, but it's hungry, but it's also horny, but I'm really small, but I'm really into it.
somber heath
How old is the phone?
somber heath
How much ram?
tacit crane
How are You all?
dense ibex
Def isn’t the issue though it’s just shitty Ui bugs
iOS has always been like that though so it’s probably just IOS
somber heath
Def isn’t the issue though it’s just shitty Ui bugs
dense ibex
Yep
tacit crane
upper basin
I cast ICBM!
"Dragon is flying above us!"
"I cast heat-seeking nuclear missiles. Keep breathing fire HEHEHE."
"Did you eat the dice?"
"Can I roll a d6 to cast gaslight?"
"You are stabbed by the goblin, and you start to bleed to death."
"I cast "Nuh UHH"."
rugged root
I cast ICBM!
"Yep, you see poop"
obsidian dragon
Sure that's not official SKU
i seem to have been off topic
upper basin
"Yep, you see poop"
ICBM is inter-continental ballistic missile, why would I see poop?
amber raptor
i seem to have been off topic
We were talking about OSes available on buying a new computer
upper basin
We were talking about OSes available on buying a new computer
Did your thing end?
amber raptor
Yes
upper basin
Will you join us then sir?
amber raptor
Maybe in a few minutes
upper basin
Copy that.
quartz beacon
spare galleon
@rugged root hola
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> hola
Yoooo
spare galleon
Yoooo
wasssss gud, i ate a pickle, it was very good, i would recommend trying to eat a pickle if you have never eaten one
rugged root
@viral lily @kindred kayak @hot drum Yo to you all.
Trying my best to greet people as I can when they join
@faint prawn And a yo to you as well
@lean shoal And another yo
astral coral
upper basin
@vocal basin Would you like to come up?
upper basin
So you only can connect to vc1?
vocal basin
presumably that was just a Chrome issue
it was a first-to-connect issue paired with Chrome
if I'm not the first to connect, Chrome refuses to connect
upper basin
Is that only on Rotterdam?
vocal basin
no idea
upper basin
We could switch to another one for vc1 if one's more convenient.
upper basin
UK is good?
vocal basin
it's not EU
upper basin
You're mod, I think you can change server region?
somber heath
I think it's an admin thing.
vocal basin
just "Russia"
obsidian dragon
We were talking about OSes available on buying a new computer
I understand
vocal basin
@willow light
rugged root
HA
willow light
!paste
wise cargoBOT
willow light
unique wyvern
willow light
so my JSONLogger is meant to be used for all of my side projects going forward. I'm still trying to figure out whether I need to add anything to it to make it more robust.
I am very unhappy to admit that I had to use Claude 3.7 for pair programming.
astral coral
vocal basin
Matt
rugged root
Think I found it
vocal basin
@willow light it even suggests it during Ubuntu Server installation
I will go insane
why do I, in this specific setup, hear Discord's audio go out of phase
(left and right channels)
vocal basin
I will go insane
why do I, *in this specific setup*, hear Discord's audio go out...
actual pain
@rugged root I'm about to do a very risky move
changing the github username
whole bear
what is this? o.O
vocal basin
I will go insane
why do I, *in this specific setup*, hear Discord's audio go out...
just how
why is it doing it
willow light
what is this? o.O
a cranking noreaster
willow light
it says at the bottom that it's part of CIRA
whole bear
ok ty i will do some lernin
astral coral
vocal basin
I need to reconnect to fix the phase issue
rugged root
changing the github username
Let me know how that goes
I know that's pretty.... yeah
vocal basin
the who
vocal basin
Let me know how that goes
so far no issues
crates.io login works and that's the most important
willow light
i'm more concerned about my ghcr login tbh
vocal basin
I don't do public useful repos under my own account
it's org only
I hope the leetcode account crashes and burns as a result of this
willow light
whereas I just use it for archival reasons while I set up my own personal container registry on my home server. which almost defeats the purpose of having a container registry given the containers are only ever going onto said home server
vocal basin
there are fun exercises
like you need to actually provide yourself the entertainment by properly learning what you're solving
oh, I can reset it without reconnect
just by switching audio output to something else and back
lmao
short owl
Clacky keyboards ?
willow light
charging for dark mode is some t3.gg levels of business
charging for accessibility is some serious enshittification
short owl
the loader the keyboard the easier to decipher letter strokes
vocal basin
noticed the coworker changed the keyboard to a less mechanical one
I wonder why
("less" measured by the number of keys being mechanical; from all to 4)
gamer
rugged root
It's this: 3,225,1,225,6,6,1100,1,238,225,104,0
It's doing the weird shit with the 104
vocal basin
idk why but I press the keys with *a lot* of force
I have this and so far it's surviving
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/shop/p/mx-mechanical
unlike the previous one which was logitech g
how do I enable DoH in Discord desktop
DNS over HTTPS, not Department of Health
vocal basin
desperate times call for desperate measures, I'm using Edge now
short owl
why is OPERA so slowwwwwww
short owl
it has a nice save page as PDF thingy
short owl
learn magic tricks - confuzze your trio of kittys @peak depot
short owl
yes onions are meant for PIZZA
viscid lagoonBOT
BUt ARC iS cUsTOMisEABLE
willow light
That's why I use Zen, because it isn't Chromeshit
And even then, only because Ladybird isn't really available yet
short owl
zen browser ? gotta try
vocal basin
I would use Zen if the answer to "how do I remove borders" both in Arc and Zen communities wasn't as religious as it is
willow light
It's just a border
vocal basin
okay, Edge now just instantly became way better in my view than Arc
other than that, well, the Arc is dead
willow light
Arc is dead, long live LibreWolf
vocal basin
It's just a border
a browser claiming customisability and not providing such a basic thing is clownery
willow light
a browser claiming customisability and not providing such a basic thing is clown...
you need a hobby if this is what you're getting tilted over
sorry not sorry
vocal basin
you'd be surprised at how many people are going to be making up reasons for why it's the right choice
or not surprised idk
willow light
I don't agree that it is the right choice, I just don't care either way
vocal basin
the borders aren't as much of a problem, the community is
I don't want to go near that
meanwhile the borders on the browser I mostly use
willow light
it's really the same deal as dealing with apple fanboys. the strategy I use is I grit my teeth and live with discomfort while I save up for a System76 or a Framework.
by the time I can afford either, Ladybird will probably have a release and I'll switch over as soon as Dark Reader gets ported.
short owl
self deletion ? Gene ?
vocal basin
I would use Zen if the answer to "how do I remove borders" both in Arc and Zen c...
well, okay, it's mostly Arc
Zen is more sane in that regard
willow light
I'm sure there is a way to remove borders, but I don't know because I really don't care.
vocal basin
I would use Zen if the answer to "how do I remove borders" both in Arc and Zen c...
this bs
short owl
WELL isnt using any M$ browser making yourself a target for viruses
vocal basin
I'll try using Zen once more
I don't remember whether it was Arc or Zen that had horrible performance
golden sonnet
any job that forces a platform is hell
vocal basin
well, Arc definitely did; I don't remember if Zen did
they both performed worse than Chrome (how????), but I just don't how bad Zen was
there might be things wrong with my computer
that'd be what I'd expect
Arc just crashed
each time
oh, look
Edge is blocking Zen download
how surprising
short owl
I use duck , google cant find things for some reason ..... hmmmm
onion blossom @gentle flint
vocal basin
echo cancellation is problematic
short owl
start talkin into a can - pretend on submarine OR space ship if ya wanna @rugged root
rugged root
HA
willow light
vocal basin
Zen > Arc confirmed
also performs better than the previous time i used it
totally has nothing to do with upgrading the CPU
it was Arc than was win11 only, right?
I genuinely wonder why
willow light
open an issue on github then
vocal basin
first need to check if there's an open one already
willow light
I have mine set so that my sidebar and toolbar are the same bar, so I don't get that issue.
vocal basin
I have mine set so that my sidebar and toolbar are the same bar, so I don't get ...
that's the default, yes
short owl
kitty mayhem ?
vocal basin
that's the default, yes
I don't remember if it always was
wind raptor
!stream 425552190283972608
wise cargoBOT
✅ @peak depot can now stream until <t:1740679738:f>.
willow light
@gentle flint I recommend using cornmeal
vocal basin
ugh
I still don't remember which of the two had the very annoying cursor bug when moving tabs
Zen currently doesn't have it
good
ah
new bug
I'm not trying to find them
well, okay, this one isn't a bug necessarily
just non-intuitive
short owl
good lookin kittys @peak depot
willow light
I mean, it isn't even remotely close to a 1.0 release
bugs are to be expected tbh
every time it updates i have to re-add it to my system shortcuts
vocal basin
very non-semvery version naming
vocal basin
(note that semver makes basically no sense for a browser)
willow light
3, then 3.1, then 3.14, then 3.141, etc.
gentle flint
yes but I didn't think of buying one
short owl
pizza can sit on cormeal , slides off easy
gentle flint
ye i know that's the correct way but I don't have one
willow light
@rugged root 10.1186/s12944-021-01540-7
gentle flint
Now I want this <@473859714162360320>
I was using a pancake knife
which worked to a certain extent but isn't wide enough
short owl
mmmm , large temp differntial will make pizza stone crack ? @gentle flint
gentle flint
yes
short owl
2x pancake knifes may work
gentle flint
2x pancake knifes may work
it might
I only have 1 though
short owl
large Machete ? @gentle flint
gentle flint
haha they're illegal here
willow light
Plain language summary
Consumption of canola oil (CO) and olive oil (OO), two widely consumed vegetable oils that are low in saturated fatty acids and rich in monounsaturated fatty acids have been recommended.We compared the effects of these two oils on lowering blood lipid levelsWe found that CO was the more effective oil to reduce low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-c), total cholesterol (TC), and LDL-c/high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-c) ratio, with no significant effects on HDL-c, triglyceride (TG), TC/HDL-c ratio, and very-low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (VLDL-c) levels compared to OO.
That's the "Plain language" version
short owl
isnt pizza dough - just - french bread dough ? @gentle flint
vocal basin
woohoo
after doing stuff with the browser for a while, now I did find one reason to use borders in my case
and why I'll keep them
hmm
1px should be enough
when it's 0px, the window dragging/minimizing/closing bar doesn't appear
vocal basin
a browser claiming customisability and not providing such a basic thing is clown...
I guess Zen did redeem itself in that regard
willow light
It helps that unlike Arc, the Zen userbase aren't a bunch of Theo fanboys.
vocal basin
Theo doesn't like Theo fanboys
willow light
Not many people do.
Although the Prime fanboys are starting to become just as bad. At least Thor's fans aren't too militant yet.
vocal basin
Theo doesn't like Theo fanboys
he has expressed multiple time before that he prefers his comment section on youtube staying as critical as it currently is
willow light
If there's anyone I came close to fanboying for, it'd be either Teej or Louis Rossmann.
Or Pecos Hank.
For those who've never taken the time to carefully watch the top of a severe thunderstorm from almost 100 km away at night.
vocal basin
Arc seems more ideological about "organise tabs, spaces, whatever" thing
and Zen implements that same thing better
willow light
Arc? Ideological? NO WAY
vocal basin
though, tbf, I did not get to try Arc, it did not start properly
willow light
At the very least it isn't Opera GX. I had nothing but bad experiences with that.
vocal basin
though, tbf, I did not get to try Arc, it did not start properly
like
I drag a tab
it crashes
I open it
it doesn't start
I reinstall it
I open it
it doesn't start
I reinstall it
I open it
I go to settings
it crashes
my only reason for installing Opera GX was VPN, which, by the time I installed it, was basically dead
willow light
If the FREE BROWSER is being developed by a company that has the funds to do that many sponsorships for creators, then after what happened with Honey, well, the red flag can only really be measured in American football stadium units.
willow light
That's how I use it.
vocal basin
I looked it up and the first thing was titled like this lol
willow light
I use it for Todoist, YouTube Music, myNoise, and Proton Mail.
vocal basin
there should be an option to make an extension that detects the optimal placement 
@unique wyvern yes, and Discord likely doesn't understand it until I re-link
@willow light do you have automatic gain?
vocal basin
there should be an option to make an extension that detects the optimal placemen...
maximised on left monitor => compact mode with toolbar on the left
maximised on right monitor => compact mode with toolbar on the right
everything else => non-compact mode with toolbar on the left
I'm assuming I shouldn't've pressed this
willow light
I'm assuming I shouldn't've pressed this
well now you're fucked
I spent way too many hours on that one button
willow light
I thought that at first, until it was useful.
vocal basin
maybe Windows is enjoying having a 80GB page file
willow light
Such as when I had 120 separate datadog tabs open
unique wyvern
willow light
Oh man
rugged root
Russia started blocking ghcr.io, so that's fun for CI
That has to be fucking them too
Them overall not just you
willow light
And yet I still have access to promodj.ru, which is the only russian internet resource I use at this point.
vocal basin
That has to be fucking them too
the goal is to make it harder for non-programmers to use
gentle flint
vocal basin
so that they can't easily start VPNs and whatever
rugged root
Fair
vocal basin
I'll be mirroring everything to my personal server, and then from there mirroring to work stuff
probably the easiest way
tar
unique wyvern
vocal basin
`tar`
it's been the answer all along
start with empty CI files, make your own mess instead
gentle flint
vocal basin
I prefer having CI per-commit/per-tag,
so I only use nektos/act as part of Forgejo Actions
like even testing it per-commit
in large part because it often involves releasing
gentle flint
I use it to just test stuff
don't even commit
edgy edge
hi @wind raptor
gentle flint
otherwise you end up with the following commits:
fix test
actually fix test
no really this time
done?
done2
done3
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ffs
actual final fix
fuck you flake8
like with the very famous 0.1.13-pre.2+ci.18 release
vocal basin
otherwise you end up with the following commits:
```
fix test
actually fix test
...
--allow-empty --allow-empty-message -m ""
vocal basin
like with the very famous 0.1.13-pre.2+ci.18 release
insane tag per commit ratio
edgy edge
It hasn't even been a week since the voice mute
I believe it has been a week since the voice mute.
vocal basin
It hasn't even been a week since the voice mute
silently edit the message to say two weeks, no one will notice
edgy edge
@willow light being muted is better
gentle flint
silently edit the message to say two weeks, no one will notice
👀
I feel like LX now
just very much noisier
edgy edge
silently edit the message to say two weeks, no one will notice
took screenie, no edits are allowed now!!
Anyways, I want stream permissions
not the video role
only perms
temporary
!stream 956167389010075678
:)
wind raptor
If you can't speak in voice, then you can't stream either.
edgy edge
If you can't speak in voice, then you can't stream either.
How so? I haven't done anything bad with stream.
wind raptor
If you are in a voice mute, it doesn't matter
gentle flint
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/412357430186344448/1319346866424...
мод абјуз плиз димот
edgy edge
мод абјуз плиз димот
!rule 4
wise cargoBOT
gentle flint
it is english
vocal basin
it is English, just Cyrillic
gentle flint
just transliterated
edgy edge
@willow light What on earth is that laugh?
edgy edge
~~it is English, just Cyrillic~~
Huh? That is not english
Not english, it is serbian
gentle flint
Not english, it is serbian
in actual serbian it would be very different words
this is english words written in the cyrillic alphabet
willow light
vocal basin
I've just received 4 "no mic access" popups layered
willow light
I'm sure you can bind one. Not sure how, but I'm sure there's a way.
or there will be one if there isn't one now and you open an issue
since i'll certainly give it a thumbs up reaction to give it more traction
vocal basin
I'd expect there to be an API way to do it
vocal basin
maximised on left monitor => compact mode with toolbar on the left
maximised on ...
at which point I'd rather just do this
willow light
to be fair, this just went from alpha to beta
vocal basin
it's functioning, at least
ohno, the rightness of the toolbar is global
that might be a problem
rugged root
Back later
vocal basin
I want btrfs storage engine on docker desktop in windows
how do I btrfs
I know it's officially unsupported, but I will force it to support it
or I might just WSL it without the Dekstop part
gentle flint
wind raptor
!stream 239917638656983040
wise cargoBOT
✅ @willow light can now stream until <t:1740685574:f>.
edgy edge
@willow light May I come to your apartment :)
gentle flint
willow light
gentle flint
vocal basin
Discord changed image view UI again
vocal basin
@warm atlas sound is coming through your mic
candid spire
vocal basin
I'm having troubles with configuring prettier, as usual
candid spire
I'm having troubles with configuring `prettier`, as usual
Delete it
No problem No solution
vocal basin
new problem: no autoformatting
candid spire
new problem: no autoformatting
Delete the editor itself
vocal basin
candid spire
@vocal basin I ❤️ You
@unique wyvern It's called POP
https://d243.tiiny.site
@soft axle Try and beat it, if you can you have conquered the earth
@soft axle I ❤️ You too!
candid spire
https://d243.tiiny.site
<@344164464062496768> Try and beat it, if you can you ha...
try this and beat it
candid spire
try this and beat it
@unique wyvern
I mean you can't win
It's not fishing link
It's my side app
vocal basin
thanks, Tor, very useful
candid spire
I made with my lovely foot
candid spire
thanks, Tor, very useful
main comet
shipless-chocolate-cookies?
main comet
tous les memes?
ivory stump
papaoutai
main comet
alors on danse
willow light
shipless-chocolate-cookies?
Chocolate chips cost money. So does eggs. So I didn't use either.
pine cloud
https://tenor.com/view/missile-strike-explode-car-gif-16981617
wow
vocal basin
I'm trying to decide whether to express "thing failing to resolve which is okay" in the library or not
since that sounds very domain-specific
main comet
I'm trying to decide whether to express "thing failing to resolve which is okay"...
yes
vocal basin
in almost all cases that's context-dependent anyway
e.g. prior to being saved, the object tree might be required to be present in full
but then can be partially erased
main comet
vocal basin
yes
yes
because FastAPI
None shouldn't be the default when default is undefined
!e
import pydantic
:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | import pydantic
004 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pydantic'
anyway that sounds like a doc bug
@main comet wrong quote
"or so the Germans would have us believe"
hybrid bone
!voice-verification
wise cargoBOT
main comet
dense ibex
what am i looking at
worldly crane
dense ibex
Instagram
whole bear
have you tried to articulate your hypothesis with research supported by numbers of tested individuals? the rightest-leftist education thing?
somber heath
@fossil harbor 👋
main comet
fossil harbor
<@775096308272332870> 👋
Hello bro
whole bear
"a teenager trying to comprehend something without associating it with a fictional character" challenge
whole bear
main comet
somber heath
@fickle swallow 👋
soft axle
@somber heath quick question
main comet
<@317279909112446976> quick question
no
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> quick question
Hm?
timber knot
👍
somber heath
@humble idol 👋
humble idol
yo
whole bear
yo
somber heath
@umbral badge 👋
humble idol
do my messages count in here?
umbral badge
Hello everyone
humble idol
alright thx
yall coding anything?
whys that
what projects have you worked on
mm i think i remember
whole bear
it's always fun to have a discussion with 3 mutes
chilly wolf
I was just reminiscing about the board game Go, and remembered a time in which I won against my wife in an utter landslide, and was reflecting on how rusty I am these days and then I said to her, without thinking "Ya know, I'm probably bad enough now that we could play on the same level" and she game me the middle finger. Lmao. Did not think that one through
somber heath
@charred spindle 👋
charred spindle
Hello yes i am too new.. and feel like i am too new to coding to be able to do anything on here.. I am just starting out
somber heath
Hello yes i am too new.. and feel like i am too new to coding to be able to do a...
This server is geared towards the instruction and learning of Python. New is what we do.
!resources
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
https://tenor.com/view/john-oliver-amount-fucked-up-shown-graphically-pie-chart-...
isn't that a percentage
somber heath
There does appear to be a % sign there.
charred spindle
Yeah i was trying one of those self paced learning courses (Free thankfully) and I found it quite annoying, one they over use the same letter (X) as a variable assigning different values
charred spindle
hang on i will show an example..
whole bear
pedantic episode
somber heath
Episode?
whole bear
signifying it as a mental illness, manic episode etc
somber heath
!code
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
Well here to show what i mean
wrong channel
charred spindle
wish i knew how to line break without sending it threough one line at a time, is there a way?
Now i am confused, sorry to both anyone..
humble idol
\n
humble idol
not in vs code
somber heath
print('Hello, world.')
print('Goodbye.')```howd u send that
somber heath
\`
charred spindle
can i type out what is confusing me here? or do i need a different area?
somber heath
Here is fine.
charred spindle
okay this is the lesson and what is confusing to me with it..
whole bear
I think you'll get far better help in general chat
somber heath
Yes and no.
Yes, #python-discussion a channel dedicated to discussion of the language. It's also often busy and it is shared. There is the dedicated help post system. #❓｜how-to-get-help However, there is no other conversation happening in here at the moment. Here is fine.
charred spindle
x = 5
x = x+1
print ("x=", x)
whole bear
right hand x gets evaluated before assignment
charred spindle
now why would they use the same letter here doesnt make more since to writ the second "X" as maybe a "Y"?
somber heath
To begin with, we create a variable, which is like a named reference, a signpost, and point it at the object, 5.
x = 5
whole bear
now why would they use the same letter here doesnt make more since to writ the s...
variables can be re-assigned
somber heath
Then, we ask what the object x refers to + 1 is, 6.
Then reassigning x to that object.
x = 6 in effect
charred spindle
Right, but this is supposed to be a beginners course, my brain is going wait you already defined x and now your assigning a different value to x using x
ember fog
i need someone to talk to so i can get the 50 messages threashhold
type a bunch of questions for me
whole bear
i need someone to talk to so i can get the 50 messages threashhold
please don't spam
ember fog
depends on what the rules say
somber heath
@digital sigil 👋
digital sigil
hi
charred spindle
I understand that, just learning assignment statements and this was the first example, so my brain got locked up on that X being assigned two values in the same line of code... I was then like wait, huh, beat head on desk...
somber heath
There is an order of operations.
ember fog
why is there no channel for game cheat development
somber heath
Before it does the (re)assignment, it has to evaluate the expression.
vocal basin
why is there no channel for game cheat development
!rule 5 <-- mostly because of this
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
why is there no channel for game cheat development
game cheat haram
ember fog
damn
humble idol
@vocal basin can you voice verify me please
vocal basin
I don't have the power to do so
charred spindle
I know the mathematical order of operations, and apparently in the same line of code Python has it's own...
whole bear
yes, it's called precedence rules if that's what you mean
humble idol
finally got multi connections to work
charred spindle
it just burned my brain for a bit... was like wait i am 49 years old someone please take mercy
somber heath
Assignment is a fairly elementary aspect of Python syntax, you'll pick it up easily enough.
charred spindle
I wasnt coming at it completely blind, i studied C+ in college or was it C++, heck i dont remeber, i dropped out and drove trucks for 23 years, left that for health care, got diagnosed with cancer, and now trying to learn code to find a job... cause i cant stay on my feet 10 to 12 hours a day in hospitals
humble idol
guys i have a question
which ascii character could be used to represent a + and a - at the same time?
ember fog
ask away
whole bear
which ascii character could be used to represent a + and a - at the same time?
not ascii, U+00B1
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
I wasnt coming at it completely blind, i studied C+ in college or was it C++, he...
tough situation
vocal basin
!e
print("\N{plus-minus sign}")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
±
being a nurse has a higher employment rate and better pay then 99% of universities degrees atm
whole bear
being a nurse has a higher employment rate and better pay then 99% of universiti...
no?
humble idol
!e
```py
print("\N{plus-minus sign}")
```
i just got my mind blown ngl
i did not know this
and ive been coding python for like 5 years
charred spindle
Fighting bone marrow cancer and and anemia from it has a 0 entergy return while running around a 220 bed hospital
@ember fog
Pls pardon my typos
ember fog
I hope your healthcare isnt with united
humble idol
hello
hey
yes
im here
hello
idk they all left
i need to get voice verified
but no1 to talk to lmfao
heyy
@ember fog
in here
ember fog
how is it going
ember fog
what do you use python for?
charred spindle
I am currently using it to test my medicine cabinet for headache relief.. lol
hearty knot
[0, 0]
[0, 1]
[1, 0]
[1, 1]à
ex [0, 'a']
[0, 'b']
[1, 'a']
[1, 'b']
[0, 'a']
[0, 'b']
rightmost can be a or b
left can be 0 or 1
humble idol
charred spindle
good night everyone..
somber heath
@severe igloo 👋
hearty knot
ornate plover
split field
from typing import Callable
# @author { @Override } | 1/9/2025 : 0133
def getUsr() -> str:
name: str = str(input("Enter your Github Profile: "))
return name
github: str = getUsr()
def gitTua(f: Callable[[str], str], a: str) -> str:
return f(a)
def gitBlank(str: str) -> str:
return "git {}".format(str)
def branch():
return 0
git = lambda x: gitTua(gitBlank, x)
commands = {
"cl": git("clone"),
"b": git("branch"),
"f": git("fetch"),
"p": git("pull"),
"a": git("add"),
"fa": git("add ."),
"help": git("-help"),
}
print("Testing:\n")
print(commands["b"])
print(commands["f"])
print(commands["p"])
print(commands["a"])
print(commands["fa"])
print(commands["help"])
print(commands["cl"])
go ahead, make fun of me :/
eh not really, just thoughts so far
so I'm creatting an alias tool
whole bear
some people get more pleasure belittling others while others take the pleasure of helping, both are showing their superiority in different ways, you really can't blame anyone
split field
ye, it's just using git commands
you mean, when called in the main method?
I use Camel casing all around if that's what you're asking yes
yes
yea, I'm not a snake caser 😮 sorry haha
I agree with you though
consistency is key
whole bear
consistency is key
key to what?
split field
key to what?
success
split field
whole bear
too bad there are no subtitles
split field
functional bro 
- I've been dabbling in the functional world that's why haha
but thanks for the advice I appreciate it for sure, I'm a Java dev mainly, but still fine tuning my python - I took python last semester and it was nice but I only like statically typed languages tbh
python is quite nice with types ngl
somber heath
!e py import random things = ['apple', 'pear', 'orange'] things.sort(key=lambda _: random.random()) # random.shuffle can go cry in a corner print(things)
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
import random
things = ['apple', 'pear', 'orange']
things.sort(key=lamb...
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
['orange', 'apple', 'pear']
I love lambdas
functional programming is honestly 
- I want to Dabble more in Ocaml, but I don't have time atm haha DSA/discrete math and calc2 taking up so much atm
self 
= this 🙂
one great thing to ask an llm for learning a language:
"Give me a list of all of the semantics for x language, and the key terms that are associated with the language"
Then verify list like @somber heath said, and read about the key terms; 10x dev
hearty knot
import doctest
doctest.testfile('oo.txt',verbose=True)
somber heath
!e py print('\N{GREEK SMALL LETTER PHI}') @upper basin
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print('\N{GREEK SMALL LETTER PHI}')``` <@664667836605661217>
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
φ
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
helloo
somber heath
@hasty lodge 👋
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
hasty lodge
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
You have sent less than 50 messages.
You have been active for fewer than 3 ten-minute blocks. its say what can i do?
gentle flint
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the follow...
send more than 50 mesaagez and be active for more than 3 ten-minute blocks
also don't spam to reach 50 messages or you'll be banned from verifying
pulsar shale
he y
candid spire
hey
How you doing?
@astral coral Could you help me with job?
I would like to have remote job!
I mean it's fair you don't have job!
If you had one, you won't be in VC
In VC there are only three kinda a people, one who are student, one who earn way to much like rabbit and one like you and me
We are rotting on this planet
Did you do part time job?
Like what?
Okay
Your living ur life man!
I have my own company it's named foothub
would you like to invest?
Who told you, I need money?
I need ur foot pic for my foothub!
I can make it as popular as OF
I believe in mu business idea
Next step is to create cphub at darkweb
canadian p hub
@dry jasper Would you like to invest in my idea?
I have a great plan
it's gonna be huge
candid spire
I need ur foot pic for my foothub!
.
@chilly wolf How's ur tooth pain?
Glad to hear you are now in better state!
edgy edge
@upper basin What is a Quantum Compilation Researcher?
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> What is a Quantum Compilation Researcher?
I research algorithms that take some high-level code and compile it to quantum machine code, aka quantum circuits.
Most of my work revolves around using tensor networks to approximate dense vectors and matrices.
edgy edge
quantum machine?
upper basin
quantum computers.
edgy edge
What is a quantum computer?
chilly wolf
What should my Fiverr profile picture be?
edgy edge
What should my Fiverr profile picture be?
your discord profile picture
astral coral
@chilly wolf
candid spire
Hello noobs
vocal basin
@dry jasper this one is Klondike, right?
as in the type of solitaire
XP had, like, three separate ones
Jack not Joker
raven oxide
Hello.
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
"is that a printer in the background? don't show that to Hemlock"
obsidian dragon
raven oxide
@hasty lodge Friend request why?
hasty lodge
just for the help:)
raven oxide
Help?
hasty lodge
come inboox!
vocal basin
obsidian dragon
just for the help:)
why you need help, help with what, show code, show error
obsidian dragon
come inboox!
inbox is sus
obsidian dragon
did not show whole code
somber heath
@whole bear @short forge 👋
blissful vine
hii @somber heath
i am seeing you here from last 3-4 years -_-
somber heath
hii <@317279909112446976>
i am seeing you here from last 3-4 years -_-
Which means you have had to have been around that long as well.
Hello.
blissful vine
Which means you have had to have been around that long as well.
i come only on coding time , when i needed help & you come to help others 😹
we are not same buddy
@upper basin which game is this can you tell me the name
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> which game is this can you tell me the name
Henry Stickman.
It's a series.
blissful vine
Thanks 🤩
somber heath
how are you doing
short forge
LOOL same here
but the yellow part is a bit more in here
@somber heath are you a python developer?
tulip root
short forge
yea
somber heath
@chrome marsh👋
edgy edge
<@497415544505368577>👋
:( where is my welcome
somber heath
:( where is my welcome
You know where to find the text channels.
You don't need any special effort to that end.
@wary vine👋
@timid seal👋
@pallid torrent👋
somber heath
Nothing of note at present.
wicked egret
Dang
somber heath
@whole bear👋
@astral raptor👋
@scenic shuttle👋
Hello, hello.
@marble trenchNot quite.
Alright, then.
scenic shuttle
i can't chat
somber heath
!voice 🙂
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
Hi, Milien. ^_^
somber heath
dude it's saying to stay for 3days 50 messages and one more i forgot
Stay as in you don't leave the server.
You don't have to stay in the voice chat for three days.
scenic shuttle
still i cannot listen too..?
somber heath
still i cannot listen too..?
Of course you can.
There's just not a whole lot of voice conversation right now. Except for Milien talking about her kitties. 😄
Which is always lovely.
Because kitties.
I did.
He was leaning into it.
scenic shuttle
what u do..programmer or proffesional
somber heath
I describe myself as a Python hobbyist.