the bot agrees
#voice-chat-text-0
primal shadow
upper basin
That would be refreshing.
Hell, I have people who still continue to be mean and even use what I say to hurt me back.
Like at this point I feel it logically doesn't make sense to vent because I'm showing weakness, and I am lowering myself in other people's eyes at best and getting hit with my own words later at worst.
primal shadow
Like at this point I feel it logically doesn't make sense to vent because I'm sh...
If that's what you think it is
but others see strength in being able to vocalize oen's struggles
and share
primal shadow
some see weakness in the inability to seek help from others
Because then you just hold yourself back, over the fear of others thinking poorly of you
upper basin
AF, on a lighter note, I have been fiddling with different implementations.
I need one that would have q0 and q1 be the roots (so that we can calculate max depth of each qubit).
The children approach from what I understood require a bottom-up construction so it makes q0 and q1 the leaves (which in turn doesn't allow for max depth of each qubit, just the overall max depth).
vocal basin
upper basin
I need one that would have q0 and q1 be the roots (so that we can calculate max ...
The other way I feel is to just fix what I have right now (but the caching idea while it works is really ugly imo).
So, was wondering if we could modify the children approach to reverse the arrow direction (so that we can calculate the depths from each qubit).
somber heath
!voice @ashen trout
wise cargoBOT
tacit crane
somber heath
Suwubauwu.
vocal basin
you can also store all path length (node-to-node)
upper basin
you can also store *all* path length (node-to-node)
I don't follow.
I tried using repr as a caching mechanism, but it's suuuuper slow.
I am trying to find a boolean approach for tracking changes to a node (which is mainly through its grandchildren).
Like if the grandchildren have children, that is changing the grandparent's depth.
vocal basin
epoch counter
upper basin
epoch counter
Could I see an example?
somber heath
@elder fjord 👋
peak depot
elder fjord
<@199767322272071681> 👋
This a bot?
upper basin
This a bot?
No.
upper basin
He's a rare human specimen. Known as "polite".
elder fjord
What are you guys doing tho?
somber heath
Speak for yourself, nobody has changed my battery in years.
elder fjord
He's a rare human specimen. Known as "polite".
That’s rare nowadays lol
upper basin
Speak for yourself, nobody has changed my battery in years.
Shhh don't let them discover us.
elder fjord
Are you guys all coders?
somber heath
Sometimes.
elder fjord
I feel like you’re being sarcastic
upper basin
vocal basin
!e
from functools import partial
class EpochRef:
def __init__(self):
self.epoch = self.__epoch = 0
def __enter__(self):
del self.epoch
self.__epoch += 1
return self
def __exit__(self, et, ev, tb):
self.epoch = self.__epoch
class CachedValue:
def __init__(self, ref, factory):
self.__ref = ref
self.__factory = factory
self.__epoch = None
@property
def value(self):
epoch = self.__ref.epoch
if epoch != self.__epoch:
self.__epoch = epoch
self.__value = self.__factory()
return self.__value
def main():
ref = EpochRef()
items = [1, 2, 3, 4]
total = CachedValue(ref, partial(sum, items))
print(total.value)
with ref:
items[2] = 5
print(total.value)
main()
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001 | 10
002 | 12
first try
somber heath
No, if I am anything at the moment, it's not sarcastic.
willow light
oooh, topical!
elder fjord
No, if I am anything at the moment, it's not sarcastic.
Hmmm
elder fjord
https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-no-problem-first-try-gif-12803885
What’s it supposed to do
elder fjord
Lol no I mean the code what does it do
upper basin
Lol no I mean the code what does it do
Oh. It's to help cache the depth calculation of DAGs (directed acyclic graphs).
Essentially if you have calculated the depth of a node, and the node and its children by extension have not changed, then the depth has not changed so you cache it to not recalculate it multiple times.
elder fjord
Ahhh understood
It’s been a mintue since I’ve had to deal with nodes
I’ve watched it
And wow that guys story went nowhere
Yes the old witch lady
Oh he meant her alright
vocal basin
@somber heath the only wood nymph I know is the Alameda Research CEO
elder fjord
<@317279909112446976> the only wood nymph I know is the Alameda Research CEO
Ngl that was cold
Whaaaaaaaaat
charred rapids
Hey Guys, i am making a application like basic paint. i have to use turtle. i did make a canvas and add event listeners for dragging the turtle. but i want the turtle to follow my Computer cursor, is there any way to do that?
elder fjord
Nahhhh I never seen that scene
upper basin
!e
```py
from functools import partial
class EpochRef:
def __init__(self):
...
So, a context manager that would track the changes?
vocal basin
mutably borrows the state, destroys all caches on exit
upper basin
I am still not sure I understand how it would track the grandchildren of each node.
elder fjord
It’s crazy yu don’t see the difference with this argument
charred rapids
Hey Guys, i am making a application like basic paint. i have to use turtle. i di...
🥲 Please Help
upper basin
Which would need to prompt a recalculation of the entire DAG.
But I don't understand where the context manager would be placed in to track the changes in the grandchildren.
vocal basin
around each change
upper basin
So inside the node's to method?
primal shadow
Not sure about literally
man inherited half a billion? from his old man
he knew his fater
father*
a bastard does not know their father
upper basin
But then it wouldn't propagate throughout the entire nodes I feel. Because let's say you do A.to(B), A.to(C) (which implicitly does B.to(C) essentially), and then C.to(D) which no longer is calling .to for A.
It would track changes for the first two, but the third needs to also cause all parents of C to recalculate as well.
vocal basin
uh
I might be getting trolled by lambda scoping
!e
test = [(lambda: i) for i in range(5)]
print(*(f() for f in test))
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4 4 4 4 4
yes I was
willow light
trying to work with Jupyter Notebooks that other people made are the main reason I switched to marimo
!pip marimo
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
```ansi...
welcome to Go for loops
upper basin
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
```ansi...
Reminds me of a mistake I made once exactly like this hehe.
vocal basin
it's auto-modded
!e
class EpochRef:
def __init__(self):
self.epoch = self.__epoch = 0
def __enter__(self):
del self.epoch
self.__epoch += 1
return self
def __exit__(self, et, ev, tb):
self.epoch = self.__epoch
class CachedValue:
def __init__(self, ref, factory):
self.__ref = ref
self.__factory = factory
self.__epoch = None
@property
def value(self):
epoch = self.__ref.epoch
if epoch != self.__epoch:
self.__epoch = epoch
self.__value = self.__factory()
return self.__value
def main():
ref = EpochRef()
value = 1
partial_sums = [CachedValue(ref, (lambda i: lambda: value + sum(x.value for x in partial_sums[:i]))(i)) for i in range(5)]
print(*(x.value for x in partial_sums))
with ref:
value = 2
print(*(x.value for x in partial_sums))
main()
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001 | 1 2 4 8 16
002 | 2 4 8 16 32
@upper basin ^ cascading cache invalidation
somber heath
@drifting dune @full moss 👋
vocal basin
in my experience, the performance of function/class vs comprehension/loop is completely unpredictable
willow light
takewhile() is very situational. In my code, it works quite well, but I decided to switch back to normal while loops for readability reasons
e.g.
def decode_string(stream: BytesIO) -> bytes:
"""
Decodes a bencoded string from a byte stream.
Bencoded strings follow the format `<length>:<string>`, where `<length>` is the
number of bytes in the string. This function reads the specified length and extracts
that many bytes as the string.
Args:
stream (BytesIO): Byte stream containing the bencoded string. `BytesIO` is used
here to enable efficient sequential reading of bytes, which mimics reading from
a file-like stream and makes handling the data easier during decoding.
Returns:
bytes: The decoded byte string.
Raises:
ValueError: If the encoded value is invalid or ends unexpectedly.
TypeError: If the input isn't a byte stream.
Examples:
>>> with BytesIO(b"5:hello") as stream:
... decode_string(stream)
b'hello'
>>> with BytesIO(b"10:hello12345") as stream:
... decode_string(stream)
b'hello12345'
>>> with BytesIO(b"3:hi") as stream:
... decode_string(stream)
Traceback (most recent call last):
...
ValueError: Decoding error: specified length doesn't match actual string length.
"""
# Reads the length of the string in bytes until `:` is found
length_bytes_list = list(
takewhile(lambda c: c != b":", iter(lambda: stream.read(1), b""))
)
assert length_bytes_list, "Decoding error: missing length specification"
length_bytes: bytes = b"".join(length_bytes_list)
assert (
length_bytes.isdigit()
), f"Invalid character in length specification: {length_bytes}"
length = int(length_bytes)
string: bytes = stream.read(length)
if len(string) != length:
raise ValueError(
"Decoding error: specified length doesn't match actual string length."
)
return string
chilly wolf
primal shadow
I was about to say, come a long way
vocal basin
it's auto-modded
one message didn't get deleted seems like
primal shadow
but that is the inspiration
willow light
yes I am a big fan of doctests
primal shadow
not the result
vocal basin
(deleted now)
primal shadow
Push to talk is your friend
Love this side
Clari, I can hear you typing, wanna just say it?
I bet it is
but it's not
and we're all enjoying the sounds of keyboard
instead
how about push to talk?
chilly wolf
so immaculate
primal shadow
though I guess mute is always a good alternative if the objective is to annoy 🙂
chilly wolf
couldn't be more visually appealing
primal shadow
the offer of the mech keyboard for more noisE?
is to make things better for us?
I do understand the concept of push to talk as a consideration for the ears of the others 🙂
The whole chat?
cut off the nose to spite the face
chilly wolf
primal shadow
good times
chilly wolf
upper basin
AF, what does this mean?
lambda i: lambda: value
willow light
interesting, my neighbor's space heater seems to be picked up as speech and that's why the mic keeps going through when it shouldn't
upper basin
out of the generator
What is this error?
NameError: cannot access free variable 'partial_sums' where it is not associated with a value in enclosing scope
for the record, the keyboard is only intended to be annoying for when I am forced against my will to go into the office for a cloud-based job
vocal basin
What is this error?
```
NameError: cannot access free variable 'partial_sums' wh...
not yet defined
upper basin
The way I understood it was that we are defining a function that takes i, and returns another function (which has no parameters and uses i). I tried to remove the inner lambda and it gave this error.
willow light
and thus am forced to interact with extroverts
upper basin
out of the generator
So it freezes i to pass it into the inner lambda? And then continues to iterate?
willow light
especially 65 year old extroverts. the absolute worst part of office work. zero indoor voice, incapable of using headphones, and insists on talking at you while you're trying to work.
upper basin
I won't lie, it's new to me.
vocal basin
slight correction of CachedValue:
@property
def value(self):
epoch = self.__ref.epoch
if epoch != self.__epoch:
del self.__value
self.__epoch = epoch
self.__value = self.__factory()
return self.__value
I would have made a temporary variable (I didn't know you could iterate over a variable as you're defining it, feels a bit odd to me).
tacit crane
vocal basin
So it freezes i to pass it into the inner lambda? And then continues to iterate?
effectively captures the i by value instead of by reference through evaluating it and passing as an argument
calling the function creates a new variable i inside the lambda
willow light
vocal basin
@willow light the context menu button, "the one that no one uses"
willow light
<@239917638656983040> the context menu button, "the one that no one uses"
trying to remember which one that is
vocal basin
in my case it's fn+search
I use it for quickly opening context menu when I typo a word to pick from autocorrect
willow light
chilly wolf
How about this one?
vocal basin
my laptop has calculator button on the touchpad
vocal basin
just for fun, when I rewrote the driver in Rust, I did implement that too
tacit crane
vocal basin
that one reminds me of a very cursed Logitech keyboard
willow light
vocal basin
this one is pow-profile but not as low as laptop keyboards
the best keyboard I had so far
I wish I could program the lighting on it
because it has that per-key
full moss
Very cool keyboard !!
willow light
Some of my layout is a little cursed
vocal basin
I wish I could program the lighting on it
this is unreasonably limited
wicked quartz
can someone help me i cant install pygame
full moss
I have logitech mx master 3s mouse
wicked quartz
can someone help pls
full moss
I have logitech mx master 3s mouse
Cool mouse
upper basin
!e
value = 1
a = [(lambda x: value + sum(a[:x]))(i) for i in range(5)]
print(a)
:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 | a = [(lambda x: value + sum(a[:x]))(i) for i in range(5)]
004 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <lambda>
006 | a = [(lambda x: value + sum(a[:x]))(i) for i in range(5)]
007 | ^
008 | NameError: name 'a' is not defined
you're trying to evaluate it before it's defined
full moss
bye bye
upper basin
partial_sums = [
CachedValue(
ref,
(
lambda y: lambda: value + sum(x.value for x in partial_sums[:y])
)(i)
) for i in range(5)
]
!e
value = 1
a = [(lambda x: lambda: value + sum(f() for f in a[:x]))(i) for i in range(5)]
print(*(f() for f in a))
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1 2 4 8 16
partial_sums = [
(
lambda y: lambda: value + sum(partial_sums[:y])
)(i)
) for i in range(5)
]
I can do each key individually, as well as custom patterns. When I listen to music, I get the levels animation on the keyboard.
upper basin
!e
value = 1
a = [(lambda x: lambda: value + sum(a[:x]))(i) for i in range(5)]
print(a)
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[<function <lambda>.<locals>.<lambda> at 0x7f8b4c385440>, <function <lambda>.<locals>.<lambda> at 0x7f8b4c3854e0>, <function <lambda>.<locals>.<lambda> at 0x7f8b4c385580>, <function <lambda>.<locals>.<lambda> at 0x7f8b4c385620>, <function <lambda>.<locals>.<lambda> at 0x7f8b4c3856c0>]
In addition to the mouse lighting up with color coding based on volume level
tacit crane
vocal basin
this is unreasonably limited
(Reaction is this)
willow light
I usually don't have it react when I keypress, though, since I found it to be distracting. So I just use the colors to highlight certain keys that I have programmed macros into.
vocal basin
I just use the static one
willow light
vocal basin
I just use the static one
it lights up when hands get close to it (without typing)
128bit
tacit crane
async def generate_session_id():
return ''.join(random.choices(string.ascii_lowercase + string.digits, k=128))
128 bits not characters
you can use this
https://github.com/ulid/spec
or, since you're basically on a single thread because of Python, snowflake (64 bits)
upper basin
AF, the f() in your original code would be this?
self.__value = self.__factory()
yes
tacit crane
import secrets
import base64
async def generate_session_id():
random_bytes = secrets.token_bytes(16)
session_id = base64.urlsafe_b64encode(random_bytes).decode('ascii').rstrip('=')
return session_id
though this is for persistence, so I guess probably not
peak depot
I apologize for the slowness.
Not slow, yes smart
tacit crane
Its Decent?
vocal basin
!d secrets.token_bytes
wise cargoBOT
upper basin
Not slow, yes smart
I am slow compared to AF. They think, then write, and explain and I still have to ask a ton of questions to understand it.
Very slow.
upper basin
AF, I feel what you wrote could be generalized to a ABC for caching arbitrary data structures, right?
tacit crane
should i increse the bytes from 16 -> 32
stuck furnace
👋
upper basin
I feel for circuit_log (the list of dictionaries, where dictionaries represent the method called with its parameters) this could be useful.
vocal basin
it's you who's signing the session id, it's not the users generating it
your only potential issue is collision, which is extremely unlikely
"if you're rolling your own auth, might as well make a custom binary format"
willow light
I've been sitting at the keyboard for too long, time to go to the gym. Anyone want to spot for me?
upper basin
"if you're rolling your own auth, might as well make a custom binary format"
I mean not that low, but could mix and match different alphabets.
willow light
"if you're rolling your own auth, might as well make a custom binary format"
that sounds like a primeagenism
upper basin
Like imagine adding chinese, korean, japanese, russian and arabic letters in there.
vocal basin
I have no clue what primeagen opinions on anything are anymore
yeah, was about to say "my boomer brain cannot follow it"
tacit crane
primal shadow
Musk never made anything of his own, he just buys other people's ideas
upper basin
yeah, was about to say "my boomer brain cannot follow it"
Aren't you gen Z like me?
Like we're born past 2000.
Right?
vocal basin
I had too much Soviet influence
vocal basin
I'm only recently starting to be influenced by intl zoomer stuff
peak depot
I had too much Soviet influence
Only soviet influence I like is vodka
willow light
I had too much Soviet influence
As in we all have pelmeni in our freezers
vocal basin
@tacit crane Musk's AI thing is only one letter off from another one
upper basin
I'm only recently starting to be influenced by intl zoomer stuff
I don't use Instagram, never touched Snapchat nor TikTok, so I was safe.
I only use content-specific stuff on youtube, and my shows are all old ones that I periodically rewatch.
vocal basin
my only vector for acquiring that is Discord
vocal basin
<@1058254151810830357> Musk's AI thing is only one letter off from another one
Grok/Groq
upper basin
True, discord is a bit mixed.
tacit crane
willow light
I saw that on lemmy lol
upper basin
Yay Shi-'
vocal basin
just A
upper basin
A corporated
tacit crane
"The AI"
upper basin
Y corporated (pun intended)
vocal basin
X was a company
primal shadow
then he bought it back
vocal basin
X was a company
Musk was related to it
maybe even was a founder
definitely claimed to be
primal shadow
vocal basin
@willow light idk if you saw this one before
wait, I have a Java clip
and by wait I do mean wait, the VM is starting up
vocal basin
wait, I have a Java clip
tacit crane
just add this
# type: ignore```Would it make sense to substitute my lists of dicts with a Pandas dataframe?
upper basin
Would it make sense to substitute my lists of dicts with a Pandas dataframe?
Just to improve the speed.
upper basin
https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-workout-laugh-gif-14825196
I loved this episode.
I feel bad, he did something good, but as always took it to an extreme.
stuck furnace
Would it make sense to substitute my lists of dicts with a Pandas dataframe?
Could do
upper basin
To improve speed of manipulations.
vocal basin
democracy
chilly wolf
tacit crane
stuck furnace
To improve speed of manipulations.
Certainly it will make it more convenient to do database-type manipulations of the data efficiently.
tacit crane
upper basin
Certainly it will make it more convenient to do database-type manipulations of t...
Right now, I just iterate through the list, and manipulate the value of the key for each dict one by one like that.
chilly wolf
autotiles are a godsend
upper basin
It's the simplest approach I feel, and maybe the most pythonic to some sense, but feels quite slow.
chilly wolf
would've taken me like 5x longer to draw that sand path there without
upper basin
Like if I can improve the speed of this, it would propagate throughout my entire codebase given how much I use this feature.
chilly wolf
we love optimization
tacit crane
chilly wolf
C
peak depot
Scrum masters: D
vocal basin
Scrum masters: D
YOUR MACHINE IS A FUCKING WHITEBOARD
chilly wolf
my machine is a binary full adder with steam pipes and turbines
pip install pygame pytmx pillow <3
vocal basin
@upper basin docker docker docker
upper basin
<@664667836605661217> docker docker docker
So to use docker or to not use docker?
peak depot
Use it!
willow light
YOUR MACHINE IS A FUCKING WHITEBOARD
Not mine, our scrum master started using Obsidian with the Kanban plugin a week before I was laid off.
upper basin
My issue is that depending on OS, I get some floating point error for Windows and Mac Os.
chilly wolf
someone should use N++ and cmd
tacit crane
vocal basin
Obsidian
so only they get to see "the whiteboard"?
chilly wolf
someone should use N++ and cmd
the superior way to write code
willow light
> Obsidian
so only they get to see "the whiteboard"?
The markdown was put on bitbucket stash for the team.
I hate Notion with a passion, but Notion for Enterprise seems like a good usecase for "I want to use overpowered notes apps for my kanban boards"
vocal basin
Isn't that Linus' graph?
@upper basin try and measure
I don't know what's more performant
vocal basin
@upper basin where is the hardware dependency coming from in your case?
* OS, yes
are you using randomness?
upper basin
vocal basin
seems like GH added relationships between issues
for now only sub-issue/parent issue
whereas Forgejo has dependencies
i.e. "issue A is blocked by issue B"
primal shadow
it got quiet
vocal basin
i.e. "issue A is blocked by issue B"
stuck furnace
back later 👋
primal shadow
oh no!
the leavers
are leaving
I'm working
at the office
wfh = talk, in office = listen and type
vocal basin
@past hill part 1 or part 2?
normal geyser
Contestant (new programmer): C.
Host: Are you sure? Final awnser?
Contestant: Final Awnser C
primal shadow
work work work time
vocal basin
yeah, only weekends
vocal basin
Scrum masters: D
willow light
Update on The Pile
Anyone up for a snowhike?
More snow Thursday btw, so the pile will continue to grow 😛
vocal basin
!stream 842190918165594114
wise cargoBOT
✅ @past hill can now stream until <t:1739296363:f>.
rugged root
We stream stuff that isn't Python all the time, no worries
topaz ermine
why is LLD in python so confusing
peak depot
vocal basin
my first thought was lld
the linker
and that does indeed sometimes get in the way when installing Python packages
rugged root
@gentle flint Yo
vocal basin
why is LLD in python so confusing
GoF Patterns-/Fowler's Refactoring- related stuff, right?
rugged root
Hello to everyone
topaz ermine
low level design (LLD) i mean
rugged root
Man I cannot type today
flat heart
hello
topaz ermine
give me few links from where i can learn oops in python,
i am java developer
vocal basin
Java-style OOP translates more or less directly into Python
so most of the learning would just be about finding more pythontic ways to do the same things
topaz ermine
java is comfortable for me, i have been put in the new team where i have to code in python 😂
gentle flint
<@473859714162360320> Yo
yo
rugged root
... take out the trash
Confirmed, @chilly wolf is a crime fighter
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
We have a voice gate
vocal basin
okay it is
short owl
chopping veggys - net show
vocal basin
Hemlock conspired with Hemlock, and Hemlock forgot about that
short owl
I dont recalll - is a way out of it
vocal basin
this looks quite sane
https://effectivepython.com/
peak depot
👉 
rugged root
this looks quite sane
https://effectivepython.com/
When did it come out?
short owl
zubba zubba bubba
short owl
match / case
rugged root
Wait that's not right. Match was later than that, right?
peak depot
👉 
short owl
3.10 ???
rugged root
Was it 3.10?
topaz ermine
i wish i could speak but i think i have to wait!
rugged root
My memory is indeed shit
rugged root
i wish i could speak but i think i have to wait!
You'll get there sooner than you think. Just hang out and participate in chat (usually if people are in VC they'll also be watching this chat so that no one gets left out of the convo)
vocal basin
this looks quite sane
https://effectivepython.com/
Write Docstrings for Every Function, Class, and Module
okay, this is a bit dangerous
because
"""
"""
```technically fits thatIf you plan on hanging out in the server for a while, the amount of time it takes to meet the criteria will feel like a drop in the bucket
rugged root
> Write Docstrings for Every Function, Class, and Module
okay, this is a bit dan...
Should have been titled "Write Meaningful Docstrings for Every Function, Class, and Module"
vocal basin
I prefer leaving things explicitly undocumented when there is no better way
so that you can see the percentage
short owl
https://www.multiplechoicequestions.org/python-programming/which-version-of-python-introduced-the-match-case-statement/ is this adequate @rugged root
rugged root
I just couldn't remember the year it became a thing
vocal basin
@rugged root time for random trivia:
do you know about semver prime?
vocal basin
when you have, for example, separately ABI versioning and API versioning, you can combine them in one number
rugged root
Remind me what ABI stands for
rugged root
Gotcha
vocal basin
(
f"{2**(ABI_major) * 3**(API_major)}"
"."
f"{2**(ABI_minor) * 3**(API_minor)}"
"."
f"{2**(ABI_patch) * 3**(API_patch)}"
)
incrementing ABI version part means multiplying total version by 2
(and for API it's 3)
just as an example
generalises to arbitrary number of things needing to be versioned semverly
vocal basin
this looks quite sane
https://effectivepython.com/
Know When and How to Replace Python with Another Programming Language
rugged root
@peak depot Sleep well
short owl
vocal basin
Beware of Exception Variables Disappearing
what a clickbait
short owl
ask AI how many cats in the room - maybe funny response
vocal basin
@peak depot
"cat haven"
"feline conference"
short owl
show it the vid
topaz ermine
who is the best python tutor in youtube?
short owl
many
vocal basin
Corey Schafer's content is often recommended
topaz ermine
name 1
vocal basin
a bit outdated but still okay
short owl
find a 8 hour video - watch all of it or parts
short owl
yes true
vocal basin
it's a bit more up-to-date
short owl
a structured course outline is helpful - with a time index to topics
a PDF book recommendation is difficult - so many out there
short owl
there are many undocumented ( maybe i just cant find them ) things in python
Tkinter has hidden feature
Color picking wheels ...
short owl
I find some stuff by accident , while looking for other things - so , I wish upon a star for a book of hidden feature
Sometimes a PDF book will have a tidbit , but need to comb entire book
All hail the coffee gods , even Juan Valdez
would you put DeepSeek on a isolated machine to see what it can do @chilly wolf @unreal thicket
vocal basin
timestamp with time zone DEFAULT (CURRENT_TIMESTAMP) NOT NULL
I KNOW
I AM HAVING ISSUE WITH LIKE
Column(name="created_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ().default('CURRENT_TIMESTAMP')),
SAVING UTC TIME
LOCAL IS UTC +6
So i need todays total revinew
based on local time zone
so i am doing like this
dhaka_now = datetime.datetime.now(dhaka_tz)
dhaka_start_of_day = dhaka_now.replace(hour=0, minute=0, second=0, microsecond=0)
dhaka_end_of_day = dhaka_start_of_day + datetime.timedelta(days=1)
utc_start_of_day = dhaka_start_of_day.astimezone(utc_tz)
utc_end_of_day = dhaka_end_of_day.astimezone(utc_tz)```!e
from datetime import datetime, timezone
print(datetime.now(timezone.utc))
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
2025-02-11 18:51:04.567818+00:00
i know this
i am doing
SELECT id, price, buy_price
FROM orders
WHERE completed_at >= '{utc_start_of_day}'
AND completed_at < '{utc_end_of_day}'
AND status = 'completed'```put this in deepseek
tacit crane
But problem is
vocal basin
yeah, another reason to use proper SQL argument passing instead of string formatting
primal shadow
i am doing
```
SELECT id, price, buy_price
FRO...
You should check out BETWEEN
vocal basin
that has been told before already
tacit crane
You should check out `BETWEEN`
DOEN'T Matters
todays_orders_data = await orders.query(f"""
SELECT id, price, buy_price
FROM orders
WHERE completed_at >= $1
AND completed_at < $2
AND status = 'completed'
""",
utc_start_of_day, utc_end_of_day)```Just another tool inthe SQL toolbox, it's good stuff
vocal basin
```
todays_orders_data = await orders.query(f"""
SEL...
this fails to work too?
tacit crane
Main issue it
await orders.update(
{"id": order_id},
status="completed",
reason="ভুলক্রমে আপনার অর্ডারটি ক্যান্সেল হয়ে গেছে কিছু ফলোয়ার বা কিছু লাইক যাওয়ার পর বাকি টাকাটা আপনার একাউন্টে জমা হয়ে গেছে",
quantity=quantity_done,
buy_price=recalculated_order_buy_price,
price=recalculated_order_price,
completed_at=datetime.datetime.utcnow()
)```Heres how i am updating it
but the uts is getting 1 hour behind
topaz ermine
yeah, diff time zone
tacit crane
not that
vocal basin
utcnow is naïve datetime
tacit crane
`utcnow` is naïve datetime
?
wise cargoBOT
tacit crane
should i use this
datetime.datetime.now(datetime.timezone.utc)```
unreal thicket
@chilly wolf @primal shadow @tacit crane this is the label studio for yolo tutorial i was talking about for anyone interested in getting started with annotating images for yolo vision models:
https://github.com/HumanSignal/label-studio
https://youtu.be/r0RspiLG260?si=26XVYe0_fH75_72G
vocal basin
yes
@unreal thicket
speed is almost never the problem for containerisation
it's not hardware-level virtualisation
topaz ermine
recently devop team routed wrong so 2 mili req failed xD
tacit crane
pm2 start main.py --name="SMM_WEBSITE_PROTOTYPE" --interpreter="venv/bin/python3"```
tacit crane
vocal basin
"only 17 microservices"
vocal basin
is it using cgroups?
also careful with the list of things there
docker and alike provide more isolation
that's the core thing
they actually do use it, quite a lot
databases belong in containers
short owl
just use a SSD like a video game cartridge - experimental OS on full hardware , no extra layers
vocal basin
just mount host's directory
you don't have to use a docker volume for data
(and you almost never should)
if you run more than one service using a database, all those services and all those databases almost definitely belong in containers
if it's not a separate machine per service, this has been the only sane way to share compute across services
@unreal thicket Solaris Zones
no. no. no.
if you claim performance, show the numbers.
this is not hardware virtualisation.
that is unrelated to docker
entirely
rugged root
I'm back, what'd I miss?
vocal basin
it's only default k8s installation that ubuntu server has that I've ever seen to cause performance issues
unreal thicket
@rugged root
rugged root
An attempt was made
vocal basin
it's only default k8s installation that ubuntu server has that I've *ever* seen ...
that piece of garbage somehow manages to waste 0.15 of a core when idle
never trust canonical with defaults
short owl
if you had a isolated Linux machine would you try DeepSeek to see what can be seen @rugged root
rugged root
That tracks
I already use a service that has it hosted
So I'm futzing with it a little
But it doesn't work well for what I'm doing
vocal basin
containers are the main reason we get any adequate performance
because the alternative is VM
unreal thicket
we need python themed snake game
primal shadow
short owl
there are multiple models - did you use a tiny version @rugged root
vocal basin
especially in the cloud
unreal thunder
especially in the cloud
gushing over..
tacit crane
vocal basin
VMs are way way slower, and not even necessarily more secure
short owl
kitty gotta gun ( singing )
vocal basin
good luck with securing your floppy drive that you're having to provide to your VMs
short owl
hmmm
vocal basin
gushing over..
I found it funny how in Russian they translated the title completely differently from the usual English one
it's "becoming ..." instead of that
rugged root
@potent root Having fun with it?
vocal basin
iirc Forgejo provides Vagrant package support
potent root
<@953359567729885246> Having fun with it?
yes
potent root
<@953359567729885246> Having fun with it?
i mean its kinda hard but i think if i keep doing it ill get better
rugged root
Nothing wrong with using what you're familiar with
Python is quick to write
I don't, no
I've messed with a couple of them but... eh
I'm not in the industry so I don't really need to focus on those
tacit crane
vocal basin
truly readable
rugged root
How does it look zoomed in?
"Ah yes, we have the option to go from 100% zoom to 101% zoom"
tacit crane
vocal basin
zooming in re-renders it
rugged root
Those are terrible to read
tacit crane
color contrast
vocal basin
Those are terrible to read
tacit crane
looks like potion bottle
vocal basin
I've 100%d free random, concurrency and doubly-linked list ones
but that thing includes paid
rugged root
looks like potion bottle
Worst potion bottle ever. "What's in there?" "Uhhhhhhhh"
tacit crane
rugged root
vocal basin
that cat looks sad
rugged root
@haughty pier Yo
vocal basin
was it 400 on http.cat?
rugged root
@unreal thicket Only when I have to
vocal basin
@haughty pier * problems
vocal basin
was it 400 on http.cat?
rugged root
If you don't use regex101 you're insane
rugged root
It's old and powerful
Very powerful
It's like Gandalf
The method, yeah
It's actually pretty fun
It's backwards
You fill in letters or characters based on the regex
Or just google it
If you have a pattern you need to find, that's the use case
Like a nice regex cheatsheet?
Reference sheets are handy
Some can already read through sites like that
tacit crane
are you in work?
rugged root
Me?
tacit crane
yah
rugged root
Always
If I'm on here, I'm at work
Back, sorry
Had to check something for a co-worker
vocal basin
"write your data access layer in Rust, live a happier life"
Rust-async-async-Python integration is okay-ish
these are the ones that I considered for Python:
- SQLAlchemy
- Tortoise ORM
- Pony ORM
- PyPika
I've just realised I want multicursor in discord
@rugged root also why do you want async sqlite
that is not the way
it's threading-based
might as well do your own threading
just have a queue of requests that async code writes to, and read from it in a thread
task stuff
tacit crane
vocal basin
you can also do in-process ZeroMQ request-reply for that
since that's both sync and async
tacit crane
Just the thing for you @rugged root
tacit crane
which one
rugged root
Still do
tacit crane
vocal basin
<@98195144192331776> also why do you want async sqlite
you can talk about it with Rabbit, the question will likely be the same
tacit crane
rugged root
That'd be pretty sick
Some neat AR kind of stuff
Ever so slowly making progress: https://github.com/MrHemlock/aio_space_traders
Focus on slowly
tacit crane
vocal basin
make sure the projection does not mess with detection
rugged root
Ever so slowly making progress: https://github.com/MrHemlock/aio_space_traders
Main reason I'm wanting some sort of SQLite backend is for caching more or less. I feel like something like Redis would be too heavy.
I don't really need anything fancy
rugged root
I'm wanting it to be persistent, though
Because I'm planning on having it mapping out the systems so that it's easy to have it go through and get the new prices for the markets or to figure out the shortest path to a given destination
And considering the rate limit it has (2 per second and 30 per 60 seconds), it'd be a bad idea to have to get it all from scratch each time
And you're probably right, the async ORM probably doesn't make sense, but I'm thinking that I'll have it mapping out the systems in the down time it'll have and toss them into the database while still allowing me to grab information I need and potentially mapping out my next moves to systems I'm going to and what not
unreal thicket
yus this seems like it
rugged root
Still would be fun and worth doing
vocal basin
just use discord's built-in time-to-local-time functionality
primal shadow
<t:1739303820>
rugged root
@stuck furnace Yo
tacit crane
<t:timestemp:F>
vocal basin
!e
from time import time
print(f"<t:{time() + 60:.0f}:R>")
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<t:1739304001:R>
<t:1739304001:R>
primal shadow
<t:1739303820>
unreal thicket
unreal thicket
vocal basin
tacit crane
vocal basin
the goal isn't really upscaling with detail, just resizing the image so it doesn't get auto-upscaled by whatever it's viewed through
original (pixelated) and result are supposed to look the same
chilly wolf
i yam
timid iris
Just the thing for you <@98195144192331776>
i imagine this was made by someone who probably found interest in being IT but it didnt end up being cut out for them
unreal thicket
I think I need image downscaling to pixelated art instead
somber heath
@lament grove 👋
somber heath
@whole bear 👋
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> 👋
yoooo
upper basin
https://tenor.com/view/monero-xmr-privacy-private-coins-end-the-fed-gif-20637086
Exactly. God.
Loveeeee that episode.
And he did teach them sth good.
somber heath
Please join back.
No.
main comet
@somber heath Im sorry mate. I was not prepared for imediate critisism. I got a bit to defensive. Please come back, I need you to translate what this guy is saying, I can barly understand hum.
somber heath
@main comet The first time, you came into a helping session in the Code/Help voice and begun speaking over the existing conversation I was having with my helpee. You were demanding.
Just now, same thing but with the conversation I was having with Ace, and completely off the subject at that.
main comet
(no offence ace)
somber heath
You did not wait to listen to the conversation. You were not respectful of it. You barged in and were, as said, obnoxious.
main comet
I can leave the vc if you dont want me in here right now
main comet
You did not wait to listen to the conversation. You were not respectful of it. Y...
yep my bad
somber heath
You say that now. Before it was "That sounds like a you problem."
You'll forgive me if I don't take you at your word.
I'm uninterested in apologies. Do better.
main comet
somber heath
@deep grove 👋
main comet
somber heath
Not I, sorry.
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
deep grove
Hey but i will have
deep grove
I love the lenguage python 🙂
deep grove
I want permiss for voice
atomic nebula
hey @vocal basin could you give me voice access
deep grove
Really?
deep grove
I studied ing of software
atomic nebula
i have talked here multiple times
atomic nebula
its @forest zodiac
atomic nebula
Hey snufkin? What are you from?
i am from nepal
hbu
hey opal i have an interesting topic to talk about
deep grove
@somber heath access for me for voice
somber heath
!e py print(object())
wise cargoBOT
!e ```py
print(object())```
:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<object object at 0x7fa21f4b0450>
!voice
wise cargoBOT
deep grove
atomic nebula
hey opal i have an interesting topic to talk about
let's talk about anarchism @somber heath
deep grove
You, What years programing?
atomic nebula
why have a ruling authority?
atomic nebula
You, What years programing?
5 years
deep grove
Wow you are crack
somber heath
@grim iron 👋
atomic nebula
hmm
deep grove
@somber heath what are you doing?
deep grove
Yara mano 😄
atomic nebula
funniest scene
nawh
its about king
arthur
getting the holy grail
i didn't find that one funny
wtf that's accurate
at the end he says alright now FUCK OFF
that gets me everytime
grim iron
<@874668431344021545> 👋
Hi
main comet
Greek prefix that conveys "stupidity" or "lack of intelligence," "mor-"
Greek suffix for "woman" or "female" is "-gyn"
mor-gyn
Morgin
atomic nebula
I CAN FINALLY TALK
chilly wolf
make the file paths relative with os.path.join or something, you crazy bastard
golden crown
Hey guys I want to learn python 0%-100% what should I start learning
Should I start learning Variables first or what. Thanks
karmic rain
🫡
karmic rain
Hey guys I want to learn python 0%-100% what should I start learning
quit gaming first
minor nest
@main comet thanks dude, yeah I read the rules and all. but thanks again for going through them
not sure if I can use this as just a place to chat lol
yeah thanks!
got it!
you seem to be awake late at night, work or trouble falling asleep?
XD
yeah wise words. XD
so do you use a particular stack? 🙂
or working on something related to a particular stack?
oh no problem!
like Django is a stack.
like the technologies for front end and backend
most products or web technologies have a stack
like whatsapp as an app will be using something as their UI, something for their servers, something for the databases where they store user date/messages. 🙂
I can hear you buddy!
yeah no issues
haha
no problem! haha its late at night anyways XD
what are you working on? if its okay to ask? 🙂
happens to the best of us XD
@somber heath yeah good definition! to the point!
@main comet oooh lua scripts for gaming mods huh! what games did you mod? XD
programmable micro controllers
damn
working with game engines, bruh, my head could never lol
I ran away from game dev because of all the maths involved 🤣
well you are built different then
O.o
you are literally a rocket scientist
dude
that's amazing!
ooh its on a repo?
main comet
minor nest
sure! I won't be able to understand anything haha
haha not talking about your ability to showcase it, talking about my ability to comprehend rocket science 🤣
minor nest
is there a way to run the project at my end? 😮
if I download the repo?
yeah read the readme lol
@main comet is a rocket scientist! XD
main comet
frosty garnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et8CqMu_e6s
@main comet
minor nest
@main comet since I am kinda dumb, what file do I need to start in python to start the project? 😅
does it need anything else apart from python3
somber heath
!resources
wise cargoBOT
frosty garnet
vscode.dev
minor nest
@main comet I am talking about your project Jet-Engine-Sim project, haha
what file do I need to start to start the project. XD sorry didn't clarify the questions
somber heath
<@702587538849923122> since I am kinda dumb, what file do I need to start in pyt...
I misunderstood.
minor nest
I misunderstood.
yeah read the readme file, it didn't point to a procfile or anything, I tried starting various files, it returns some modules being missing, so probably I am not pulling the actual file that has the main function or something 😅
push to main, damn daring XD
yeah bash is the gateway to linux
you are halfway there lol
damn gentoo too XD
main comet
JET ENGINE STARTER MOTOR! FUCK YOU
minor nest
as a dev you gonna be using everything under the sun, even mac 💀
minor nest
@frosty garnet do you work in devops?
frosty garnet
minor nest
you can run anything inside docker
okay I guess 8 more messages
before I can talk lol
frosty garnet
minor nest
docker in docker lol
vocal basin
you can run anything inside docker
when --privileged -- maybe
minor nest
its like a never ending russian doll
vocal basin
normally, less so
vocal basin
io_uring is one of the common examples of stuff not working in docker by defaut
tbf that's more of a io_uring problem than a docker problem
main comet
minor nest
i don't say 50 things in a day
what have you been upto lately? XD
unique sorrel
stuff
main comet
i don't say 50 things in a day
just 50 messages
unique sorrel
90% job 5% personal growth 5% sleep
main comet
@hasty orbit
unique sorrel
they keep blocking my actrivity :*(
minor nest
90% job 5% personal growth 5% sleep
5 percent sleep? how do you even function? 👀
main comet
5 percent sleep? how do you even function? 👀
whats sleep?
minor nest
whats sleep?
that's the shutdown button for your brain..
unique sorrel
lol don't function well anymore
main comet
that's the shutdown button for your brain..
🔫
unique sorrel
must refactor
main comet
lol don't function well anymore
unique sorrel
when i go out sometimes, people think there's something wrong with me
minor nest
lol don't function well anymore
damn, being sleep deprived sucks so much
_<
minor nest
when i go out sometimes, people think there's something wrong with me
huh? XD
unique sorrel
lol
unique sorrel
you'll soon find out
minor nest
finally!
minor nest
you'll soon find out
👀
main comet
pip install PyQt5 numpy
somber heath
@indigo parcel 👋
last wigeon
@vocal basin can i have streaming perms please
minor nest
@main comet is this it? working? 😄
somber heath
@radiant salmon 👋
minor nest
@frosty garnet instead of creating a separate directory you can just change the path for the csv file.
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> can i have streaming perms please
what do you want to stream?
main comet
unborn flame
@main comet are you controlling a real jet engine with python software?
minor nest
<@702587538849923122> are you controlling a real jet engine with python software...
yes one of the spacex falcon X rockets 👀
(I can be wrong though)
main comet
<@702587538849923122> are you controlling a real jet engine with python software...
simulating
unborn flame
*simulating*
ahhh. I thought you were controlling this: #voice-chat-text-0 message
minor nest
@vocal basin 👋 sorry kinda new here! Is there a place where I can read up on where I can get started to get various permissions to use text is some channels? 🙂
indigo parcel
<@1241092785705189439> 👋
👋
last wigeon
@vocal basin do you play jtoh
minor nest
@main comet @frosty garnet great meeting you guys, unfortunately have to go!
😄
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> do you play jtoh
judging by I how I don't know that is, seems like no
last wigeon
judging by I how I don't know that is, seems like no
roblox obbies
vocal basin
I don't play roblox
last wigeon
I don't play roblox
why
vocal basin
why would I ever play it
last wigeon
the obby mechanics are cool I think
vocal basin
I don't respect the company even remotely enough to install their software
main comet
chilly wolf
AI
tacit crane
primal shadow
<@1144346569982889995>
Kenshi is best
peak depot
somber heath
@feral dove 👋
vocal basin
I truly have a way with diagramming
only one letter off of looking like a typical late 2022 startup
win shift s
vocal basin
win shift s
@sweet sorrel
sweet sorrel
vocal basin
@sweet sorrel there is lightshot for insta-upload
not recommended
giraffical image format
(both halves thereof)
tacit crane
How is it?
vocal basin
why /my-account and not just /account?
tacit crane
i know
somber heath
vocal basin
if it's image-er, where's image-est
vocal basin
tacit crane
ping yourself -> 300ms
vocal basin
@peak depot I did spend a few seconds choosing whether to reply to first or second image
I still have dual name on linkedin, maybe I should just replace with what I have here
tacit crane
orders = Table(
name="orders",
connection=connection,
columns=[
Column(name="id",type=DataType.SERIAL().primary_key().unique().not_null()),
Column(name="user_id",type=DataType.BIGINT().references("users","id")),
Column(name="order_number",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=50).unique().not_null()), # Unique order reference number
Column(name="status",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
Column(name="total",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')),
Column(name="subtotal",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')), # Before tax and shipping
Column(name="tax",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')),
Column(name="shipping_cost",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')),
Column(name="discount_amount",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')),
Column(name="coupon_code",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=50)),
Column(name="paid",type=DataType.DOUBLE_PRECISION().default('0.0')),
Column(name="payment_method",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
Column(name="payment_status",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
Column(name="payment_id",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
Column(name="payment_response",type=DataType.TEXT()),
# Shipping Details
Column(name="shipping_address",type=DataType.TEXT()),
Column(name="shipping_city",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="shipping_state",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="shipping_country",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="shipping_postcode",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=20)),
Column(name="shipping_phone",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=50)),
Column(name="shipping_email",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
Column(name="shipping_notes",type=DataType.TEXT()),
Column(name="tracking_number",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="shipping_carrier",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
# Billing Details
Column(name="billing_address",type=DataType.TEXT()),
Column(name="billing_city",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="billing_state",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="billing_country",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=100)),
Column(name="billing_postcode",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=20)),
Column(name="billing_phone",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=50)),
Column(name="billing_email",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=255)),
# Additional Order Info
Column(name="currency",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=10).default('BDT')),
Column(name="ip_address",type=DataType.VARCHAR(length=45)),
Column(name="user_agent",type=DataType.TEXT()),
Column(name="notes",type=DataType.TEXT()), # Admin/Customer notes
Column(name="estimated_delivery_date",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="points_earned",type=DataType.INT().default('0')),
Column(name="points_used",type=DataType.INT().default('0')),
Column(name="gift_wrap",type=DataType.BOOLEAN().default('false')),
Column(name="gift_message",type=DataType.TEXT()),
# Timestamps
Column(name="payment_date",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="shipped_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="delivered_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="cancelled_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="refunded_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="updated_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ()),
Column(name="created_at",type=DataType.TIMESTAMPTZ().default('CURRENT_TIMESTAMP')),
],
cache=True,
cache_key="id",
cache_ttl=300,
cache_maxsize=1000
)
Did i miss anything
vocal basin
why are timestamps separate and not grouped with stuff they're related to
tacit crane
What do you mean grouped
vocal basin
(if that was split across tables, timestamps would be near things they relate to instead of one separate table)
vocal basin
why are timestamps separate and not grouped with stuff they're related to
if there's a specific reason why you view them as a separate field group (as indicated by comments) other than being same type, it's worth writing it down
i.e. might be because you want to index all timestamps, and this helps keep track of that
@sweet sorrel @chilly wolf
"you're both new"
first time I joined was 2019
chilly kiln
suree
tacit crane
vocal basin
first time I joined was 2019
with literally 0 activity until 2022
chilly kiln
show me your game
tacit crane
same 0 activity until dec
rugged root
Yeah that's about right
somber heath
tacit crane
rugged root
Trying to learn how to use tortoise properly
vocal basin
"you can donate that money to Bezos"
rugged root
"you can donate that money to Bezos"
Who will speak for the billionaires!?!?
LEAVE BEZOS ALONE
rugged root
ivory stump
rugged root
I love that vid
vocal basin
I still have the funny domain resolving to 127.0.0.1
rugged root
Legit forgot that was the loopback
ivory stump
the size of the mask
ivory stump
Yeah that sounds tempting
vocal basin
it was the second most expensive
ivory stump
I'm on a 2tb one rn
vocal basin
@rugged root should probably just do it in software, yes