voice-chat-text-0

[gentle flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCOoKYIPU4

[tall ridge]

I'll be AFK for the rest of the day, it's nice to see familiar faces here. Thank you @rugged root for holding the space.

[short owl]

there is long and short fiber wool , short is itchy

but say it with a strong , Finnish accent @peak depot

[raw carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpwMZxM99uY

[short owl]

he was drunk most of the time , Churchill

[gentle flint]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WkbnUi1KRQY

[peak depot]

Hemlock has forbidden me to say things the finnish way

[lethal shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmIKO7KuPss

[short owl]

does it induce a magic spell if you speak Finnish @peak depot

[peak depot]

No, it just sounds annoying

[short owl]

school boy with messy hair , Boris

Little Britains Great

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/little-britain-we-are-ladies-funny-im-a-lady-cross-dress-gif-18921192

[short owl]

and shit ..

she is loud and clear for those with ears to hear @peak depot

[short owl]

dirty memes are ok

[short owl]

you does have the radio voice @raw carbon

[short owl]

wow - great

[short owl]

hey can you recommend a good toaster oven @gentle flint

[gentle flint]

blokker sells a good one

in the netherlands

gotta be quick though cuz they're going bankrupt rn

[short owl]

hot air fryers also - looking to get

@gentle flint

[gentle flint]

dunno, don't have one

[short owl]

I like kittys

[short owl]

can make crispy fries without oil - hot air fryer

[short owl]

the farty kitten ??

[south loom]

@raw carbon only if they pull off the puuuuurfect crime.

[lime fractal]

If some1 can help please look voice chat text 1

[short owl]

ohhh good

[scarlet halo]

you guys are gonna hate the code i just cooked up

        try:
            if column == "x":
                if inp[i+1][ii] == "m":
                    if inp[i+2][ii] == "a":
                        if inp[i+3][ii] == "s":
                            xmas += 1
                        else: raise Exception()
                else: raise Exception()
            else: raise Exception()
        except: pass

[scarlet halo]

whichadese

[short owl]

whats a CD ? <---have you had that one yet

[torn yarrow]

heres a meme

[scarlet halo]

THATS TERRIFYING

[south loom]

@lethal shell I have to go back and review a bunch of the math I leaned in school, been over 20 years since I learned it and haven’t had much a need until I started learning Python.

[vocal basin]

this one reminded me of #voice-chat-text-0 message

[lethal shell]

same good luck

[south loom]

The Brilliant App has been super helpful.

It helps with learning/relearning math and science and programming.

[scarlet halo]

how does that even work 😭

[south loom]

Because it comes up a lot in coding.

[scarlet halo]

depends on which type of math

[short owl]

especially graphics @south loom

[vocal basin]

read through the message I linked
(and, optionally, the discussion in the link)

[gentle flint]

shared power lines, and the phone draws charge

[vocal basin]

@lethal shell Category Theory

(a Haskell joke)

[south loom]

It hasn’t come up that much so far, but if I want to get into working with databases and whatnot, it can’t hurt to learn more math.

[vocal basin]

databases (especially RDBMSes) have kind of their own (limited but strict) study field

(limited as long as perfect conditions are assumed)

[lethal shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_G-FBSf1UI @gentle flint

[short owl]

which healthcare dude ?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-shot-chest-midtown-manhattan-masked-gunman-large/story?id=116446382

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor

a bad one?
quite sure they all are

[rugged root]

Man that's breaking breaking news

That's crazy

[vocal basin]

now at 120 containers
the big docker mess is growing

[rugged root]

Not for one project, surely

[vocal basin]

yes

so far the biggest single-project deployment is for Revolt

11 containers in one compose file

and 18 in another, but that one is multiple projects

ah, that image

[tepid mantle]

thats the one!

[vocal basin]

VirtualBox looks this way because it's made by Sun and Oracle just never updated UI

Sun™️ VirtualBox and Oracle™️ VirtualBox visually just differ in branding last time I saw

[rugged root]

That's gotta start eating up space

[vocal basin]

not that much

layers are shared often

[vocal basin]

yeah, guess the reason why I bought a 4TB SSD

starts with d ends with ocker

[rugged root]

Dedicated IP Blocker?

https://tenor.com/xAYT.gif

[gentle flint]

I was thinking more nsfw but I'll take that

[vocal basin]

knowing how much iptables'ing there is in docker, yes

[vocal basin]

(yes to both the ip blocker and the nsfw)

[rugged root]

Neat

[vocal basin]

do not iptables

[rugged root]

Machine is still Machine

[rugged root]

What's the alternative?

[vocal basin]

don't bind to wrong interfaces

[rugged root]

Fair

[vocal basin]

iptables is overused for blocking access

almost never via ratelimiting or remote address

[vocal basin]

just via local address

[gentle flint]

https://linuxmint.com/download.php

[rugged root]

Also interesting that Type is Type

I don't know why that fascinates me

[vocal basin]

there is only one correct choice in there: Solaris

[tepid mantle]

T-T

what even is IBM os???

[vocal basin]

KDE Plasma to me feels more simplistic than xfce

no roundy stuff

[rugged root]

Huh

[tepid mantle]

laptop = gnome
desktop = kde plasma

[vocal basin]

very squary

[tepid mantle]

oh my god

[rugged root]

I feel like XFCE is lighter though

Maybe I just like the little mouse mascot

[vocal basin]

tf is that opening

[rugged root]

That might be it

[tepid mantle]

the "I'll be polite and let you take the center" opening

[vocal basin]

queen is staring at a pawn

[rugged root]

Was going to say

[vocal basin]

non-threateningly

because protected by the rook

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/scMhyl0uwij.gif

That's the queen to the pawn

[vocal basin]

", не?" does the same in informal Russian

but different etymological route

[winter igloo]

test

[tepid mantle]

this is so confusing XD

[gentle flint]

тест

טסט

[vocal basin]

where are my code's errors going
I don't understand
it just gets ignored somewhere

some stuff needs to update a table and just doesn't

... for reasons of there, in fact, being no table

ah, there's a method to unignore those

[vocal basin]

put 4GB, you can change it later

[tepid mantle]

thats neat

[vocal basin]

operating systems generally can handle this type of hardware change

[tepid mantle]

yeah guess its like virtually plugging in another ram stick

[vocal basin]

@gentle flint doesn't it depend on virtual disk type?

[vocal basin]

VMware, I think, supports dynamic size

not sure about VirtualBox

time to commit nomenclature crimes:

#[expect(clippy::enum_variant_names)]

[wind raptor]

!stream 1121718070881292319

[wise cargo]

✅ @lime fractal can now stream until <t:1733344071:f>.

[vocal basin]

@gentle flint I checked this, it doesn't pre-allocate

and, again, idk about virtualbox

wait, wasn't that checkbox for auto-install?

I have completely misguessed the language I can't read

hiding each notification does indeed close the whole panel

(I had to deal with XP in VirtualBox today)

@wind raptor voice state change triggers unstream?

[gentle flint]

it was for install unattended

so don't manually set up memory size etc

[wind raptor]

!stream 1121718070881292319

[wise cargo]

✅ @lime fractal can now stream until <t:1733344563:f>.

[vocal basin]

LVM mentioned

trusted platform module

I, being someone with three 2017 CPUs, probably don't have it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbKGw8MQ0i8

I remember this being watchworthy

@gentle flint I'd expect unix derivative but not unix

hmm
wikipedia claims it is unix

unix, Windows, Linux

in that order

I don't remember, did Multics ever actually live?

oh wait

another addition to random old stuff updated in 2023

[gentle flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLZ4Z8LpEE

[brave leaf]

[vocal basin]

tlmgr install --reinstall scheme-full

gotta use up all that disk space

I guess this is compressed size

(TeX 2022 with everything installed)

@tepid mantle with bad enough hardware, video decoding will struggle, however rare that might be

[tepid mantle]

true....

erm

[vocal basin]

we have a computer at home that can't play youtube videos in fullscreen because of CPU usage

and/or GPU, I don't remember

[tepid mantle]

haven't heard of that being the issue before internet speeds before though

is video compression gpu or cpu?

[vocal basin]

depends on browser settings and codec

[rain stirrup]

how is bro a screenshot hater

[vocal basin]

@gentle flint
> opens htop to kill processes that use too much CPU
> looks at the top of the list
> htop is there
> kills htop

@gentle flint wrong signal?

-9

-9 it

it SIGTERMs by default I think

and, since it's unresponsive anyway, I doubt it's going to notice SIGTERM

[tepid mantle]

fake: htop is at the top
gay: man is into tops

was really pulling at strings for that one

[vocal basin]

a more advanced condition: multiple sysadmins all trying to figure out what's happening logged in on a server all running htop

idk why I said sysadmins instead of operators

very uncharacteristic

ctrl+alt

I think

wait, no it's different in virtualbox

right control allegedly

(I have no idea)

((for releasing the input from the box))

[vocal basin]

@gentle flint "Russians, specifically me"

[gentle flint]

da, tovarishch

[vocal basin]

usual windows

I've seen that before

[rain stirrup]

@lime fractal thats a big game

[vocal basin]

yes, it's normal

[rain stirrup]

i dont trust anything with kernel anticheat

[vocal basin]

I've also seen Windows show 4TB allocated VRAM

[tepid mantle]

the biggest game I've seen before was around 400gb which was arc but 3 tb is excessive

[vocal basin]

(for a single process, firefox)

[tepid mantle]

the fuck???

[vocal basin]

as for valorant: that's a windows bug

[tepid mantle]

guess chrome is now the less ram hungry one

[tepid mantle]

not surprised

[vocal basin]

as for VRAM: that's just normal overallocation

it might also be adding up shared memory across threads

[tepid mantle]

there is also a funny bug between onedrive and unity

[rain stirrup]

isnt that a little excessive though?

[vocal basin]

not really

[rain stirrup]

oh

[vocal basin]

you just say to the system:
give me 4TB of empty space that I might use later

and it just goes:
okay

and you only notice that there isn't actually that much memory when you try to write too much to it

[lime fractal]

windows please fix dis emm

[vocal basin]

dotnet apps under certain conditions like to allocate around 261GB RAM

[rain stirrup]

thats interesting

[vocal basin]

I also recently saw a browser allocate 1TB RAM (this time not VRAM) on Linux

right now I have Tor with 15GB VRAM allocated

still less than Discord's highest numbers

[rain stirrup]

whats that

[vocal basin]

Tor?

[rain stirrup]

discords allocation

or is that not what you meant?

[vocal basin]

Discord in my case allocates, at worst, just above 40GB VRAM according to Windows

[rain stirrup]

makes sense

[vocal basin]

currently it's at 132MB

[rain stirrup]

i hate html

[vocal basin]

SGML > HTML

[rain stirrup]

i have a college class for html so i gotta learn it

its mostly fine but squashing bugs in html might be the worst thing ever

[vocal basin]

CSS is great*

* when it works

[rain stirrup]

exactly

[vocal basin]

@gentle flint in terms of that, 187cm/54kg was my anti-peak
now recovered

it feels like I'm getting trolled trying to understand how to actually use it
https://docs.rs/cqrs-es

there is a clearly missing piece: trivially rebuilding a view from events

, or I just can't find it

[gentle flint]

@somber heath

[vocal basin]

stably unstable

[gentle flint]

consistently unstable

[tepid mantle]

best shape is the great dodecahedron of the kepler poinsot polyhedra

[gentle flint]

elaborate

[vocal basin]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/GreatDodecahedron.gif

spinny thing

[tepid mantle]

eyyyyyyy!!!!!!

its so beautiful

[gentle flint]

hawk tuah

[tepid mantle]

I have 3d printed so many

[vocal basin]

thanks google

[gentle flint]

fidget spinner

is what you mean, I think

[tepid mantle]

thanks chatgpt

[vocal basin]

no, I just google dumb stuff I write to see if it collides with something specific

[gentle flint]

fair

[gentle flint]

I especially like the bottom one

[vocal basin]

the quora result google gives for me:

[gentle flint]

ah, I don't get that one at all on the first page

[vocal basin]

okay, what in the original query does even make the last word highlighted

[gentle flint]

dumb stuff vs dumb shit

it automatches similar phrases

[vocal basin]

I'm getting increasingly annoyed by this fact

@somber heath most likely?

highest probability thing

I think

!d statistics.mode

[wise cargo]

statistics.mode

statistics.mode(data)```
Return the single most common data point from discrete or nominal *data*. The mode (when it exists) is the most typical value and serves as a measure of central location.

If there are multiple modes with the same frequency, returns the first one encountered in the *data*. If the smallest or largest of those is desired instead, use `min(multimode(data))` or `max(multimode(data))`. If the input *data* is empty, [`StatisticsError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/statistics.html#statistics.StatisticsError) is raised.

`mode` assumes discrete data and returns a single value. This is the standard treatment of the mode as commonly taught in schools:

```py
>>> mode([1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4])
3
```  The mode is unique in that it is the only statistic in this package that also applies to nominal (non\-numeric) data:

[vocal basin]

yes

convert doubt into partially generated doubt

@wind raptor have you worked with CQRS/Event Sourcing/eventual consistency stuff?

mostly researching

I've moved minesweeper ratings to event sourcing model

and also used that to add game statistics

0% CSS
100% HTMX

[somber heath]

@dark spruce 👋

@lavish dome 👋

[lavish dome]

hi

l

m

ù

just 50message

where can i spam

[vocal basin]

#voice-verification

read through it

[lavish dome]

okok

so i did got a question do you how to get the source code of a .exe code in py ?

[vocal basin]

do you mean decompiling .pyc?

in the context of pyinstaller

pyinstaller keeps pycs I think

, all that assuming you want to get python code of an exe made from python

[lavish dome]

like see how its done re do it but better

[somber heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267624335836053506/1313788916008091658/flswgwqhmjcy.png

[vocal basin]

is it the "lazy programmer" projection but cut off at the poles?

[keen grove]

that is cursed af wtf

[lavish dome]

its a py script

[vocal basin]

oh, wait, no, it's even further stretched

[lavish dome]

yh

[vocal basin]

so, like, attempting to keep proportions

[vocal basin]

@wind raptor

so bytecode

ig depends on how you build

it does unarchive

but there is no traceback, for example

(as in without code)

only module names last time I checked

and maybe line numbers

okay, I will check now

[lavish dome]

what is pyinstaller

[vocal basin]

* no detailed traceback

[vocal basin]

(without source)

[somber heath]

@tropic moss 👋

[tropic moss]

hi

[lavish dome]

@wind raptor

[tropic moss]

i like bread

hot brown bread

with honey butter

i just started python crash course

anyone here knows how is it

yh

a book

famous one

[lavish dome]

so how do i see the temp file and all ??

[tropic moss]

maybe top1

[somber heath]

@karmic pendant 👋

[lavish dome]

where is my main directory and all @wind raptor

[tropic moss]

huh

oh

wait

[vocal basin]

okay, the way it behaves now is completely different from what I remember

[tropic moss]

ISBN-10
1718502702
ISBN-13
978-1718502703

[somber heath]

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/565564/python-crash-course-3rd-edition-by-eric-matthes/

[tropic moss]

yes

that ine

one

did u read it

i just download them for free

i use schol email

yh free for college students

[somber heath]

@flat sigil 👋

[flat sigil]

hey

dunno why im unable to speak

been in the server for awhile

[wind raptor]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

!voice

[flat sigil]

!voice

!voice

already doing that

or just get better mods

but its alr

programming books?

wth

[tropic moss]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

🙂

[tropic moss]

how

wdym in github

[flat sigil]

use the internet

infinite learning

[tropic moss]

oh i see

yh

[flat sigil]

youtube?

chatgpt that thang

no excuse

[tropic moss]

i have really good trsources

without the books

[flat sigil]

i know english

lol

chatgpt is no more than a tool

every tool has its limits

so we change our quesitons or goto google and get different answers

chatgpt is nothing more than a google that can speak

in my opinion

ive used it since it came out

to break things down

why would you make it do stuff for you?

[vocal basin]

a toy that just happens to be good at exactly one language (Dafny)

[flat sigil]

its not what its for

chatgpt is just a baby in a form of google

tell em to suck it up

researching is something we should teach

the one thing that solves that issue

[vocal basin]

we need better, more accurate search;
not worse, randomised guess-as-a-service

[somber heath]

obj.```

[flat sigil]

its broken

inorder to fix it

youd learn

https://tenor.com/view/impatient-monkey-jumping-nervous-gif-22701843

[short owl]

monkey demanding his morning coffee

[frosty garnet]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html

https://docs.python.org/3/library/index.html

https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html

[somber heath]

@crude sandal 👋

[crude sandal]

Hello

Any expert who can help me

[somber heath]

State your problem.

Then any people who may help you can know if they can offer effective help.

[crude sandal]

Check python help

[wind raptor]

Class time. Cheers all 😄

[frosty garnet]

alias ll='sudo ls -laSh'

alias less='sudo less -N'

[brave leaf]

lol

[cerulean minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4OMK16eX8s @honest thorn

[whole bear]

50 message requirement

bruh

[faint raven]

what does this mean?

[brave leaf]

nokapp bruh

[cerulean minnow]

anyone there?

[whole bear]

Why invade USA?

@late spoke What exactly is happening here?

[late spoke]

I'm working, not listening to the chat properly

[whole bear]

🤔

[late spoke]

Its too early in the morning (yawn)

[whole bear]

China is not yet at its peak, and it is already making American hegemony to be challenged

@honest thorn Do whatever you like but just leave india out of tariff.
India since independence never had a trade surplus (more export > import)

[whole bear]

It's such a shame that my country, with a population of 1.5 billion, has never been able to achieve an overall trade surplus. We have never exported more than we have imported.

[somber heath]

@tender forge 👋

[tender forge]

hi.

i can't talk

no voice access for me

cuz i use javascript

discrimination

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[tender forge]

!voice

[raven gale]

https://youtu.be/4S9sDyooxf4?si=onGa5HOvgxP3OQ8H

[cerulean minnow]

@honest thorn ERASE YOUR DATA FROM DATA BROKERS NOW

HIRE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR

LEGALLY DELETE THAT SHIT

very true we will judge angels @sweet sorrel

we are higher than angels according to god we have more agency and density

angels cry because they dont have the qualities of a human

@snow wharf can yall see this

you all have to understand god either laid out the conceptual blueprint for technology to exist or he had no interest/say/or ability to make technology as it strays so far from god, biology, or soul

i believe programmers have the highest rate of atheism but also intelligence quotient

i believe in god

they are gonna worship technology instead of god i bet unfortunately

they say in scripture god will come like a theif in the night but its like hes asleep in nighttime literally....

we arent in a simulation but like wtf are we in then?

i want to follow god but my faith is so weak

we could be the only humans or lifeform in the universe

the specifics for our own planet is bonkers

how do you know anything of a lower percentage of existence is possible or higher probability

i forgot the mathmaticaal law behind it

maybe this is the only configuration

earths gravity is perfect

theres no other planet with the same dimension

im a linguist, trust me

im good at talking smart

there is a mathmatical principle i learned proving the earth is the only lifeform

due to probability theory

what if a higher dimension doesnt exist

but wouldnt that be what a higher dimensional being would say?

holymoly im going deep in the bong

shit im a genius!!!

terry davis had a point

[honest thorn]

@sweet sorrel https://theweek.com/politics/kamala-harris-nato-ukraine

This is the appropriate link for harris before russia invaded: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081987356/harris-meets-with-zelensky-in-munich

[cerulean minnow]

@sweet sorrel @honest thorn

check this out

the caeser cipher

@honest thorn

@sweet sorrel

this is the caeser cipher in paper

[brave leaf]

Lol

[somber heath]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rfYiMeLMqxs

[brave leaf]

Cry a river

[sage basalt]

i think i like chicken

• phonk plays *

[somber heath]

As meats go, chicken is pretty good.

[sage basalt]

beef is the OG

[somber heath]

Yes. Beef is pretty good, too.

[sage basalt]

its the best

ever tried bangladeshi food?

[somber heath]

Lamb can be good.

No, sorry, pork can be good.

Lamb is often good.

Pork can be a bit wiffy.

[sage basalt]

i suggest try kala bhuna and you wouldn't even eat anything instead that

[somber heath]

If I had to choose one world cuisine, it would be Japanese. Not all of it, understand.

The whale meat industry there is morally repugnant.

[sage basalt]

well try this kala bhuna at least once in life

[whole bear]

Hi?

[vocal basin]

the RTC connection was established surprisingly quickly this time

only ~second

[whole bear]

How was your day?

Do you guys workout daily?

[vocal basin]

[same response from me]

[whole bear]

Isn't it depressing to not workout?

I feel a little sad and lazy

[vocal basin]

very opposite in my case

[whole bear]

You're built differently🤷

[somber heath]

@spare laurel 👋

[spare laurel]

I can't turn my mike on.

[whole bear]

Milien has such a sassy voice

[spare laurel]

I don’t have the permission.

[vocal basin]

my internet might be having some troubles brb

ping is being funny

unusual spikes

[whole bear]

Turn off VPN

[vocal basin]

what a funny way to say "leave VC"

[whole bear]

Or you could restart your network on Linux

[vocal basin]

there is a way to use Discord without proxying but, for now, it's Windows-only

at least without a lot of setup

it's like a weird config for windivert

[whole bear]

How come your letter goes italic and normal in the same sentence?

[vocal basin]

*markdown cursive*
**markdown bold**

[spare laurel]

Hi🤗

[whole bear]

Namaste 🙏

Alisa Feistel 🆒😎

IQ test reliable?

[vocal basin]

IQ is just a system to label results of any intellect-adjacent test

a way to convert percentile into a different number

[whole bear]

https://test.mensa.no/home/test/en

Is this site reliable?

[vocal basin]

IQ tests are reliable in a way that they tend to be self-predicting

if you split questions of one tests in two parts

and then give two parts to the same person

normally they will score similarly on two parts

and other "what you'd expect from a reasonable test" stuff

IQ tests are good at showing how good you are at IQ tests

but they don't generalise well

as it's just a test

[whole bear]

I intend to use this site to evaluate my cognitive skills before and after creatine use.

I heard that creatine helps the brain as well

[whole bear]

I'm not sure about the IQ test but I suppose it will test something related to cognitive health

[somber heath]

@remote valley @junior kestrel 👋

@pale stump 👋

[vocal basin]

at the end it shows a graph

that graph is the definition of what IQ is

[whole bear]

Yes

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-1 message

I don't entirely remember the maths on that

[whole bear]

Lol 😆

I feel smart now 😁

[vocal basin]

@whole bear 1024, allegedly (the number might be slightly outdated)

[whole bear]

Ohh. Thanks

[vocal basin]

Russian FAQ:

English FAQ:

[timid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-good-morning-yawn-gif-14108895

[somber heath]

@vagrant shore 👋

[vagrant shore]

Hey! You are the first person to acknowledge that I exist. Thanks

[somber heath]

I hope not. A lonely existence that would be.

[vagrant shore]

@somber heath yea. Can I ask for help if that's fine with you?

[somber heath]

With what do you require assistance?

[dry jasper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas

[somber heath]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering

[vagrant shore]

Well I was making this project with Django

And got stuck

I'll paste in the Stackoverflow question I had.

https://stackoverflow.com/q/79254213/27550892?sem=2

[somber heath]

#❓｜how-to-get-help if nobody here offers help.

This isn't something I can help with.

[torn yarrow]

why did everyone stopped talking

oh ok

[vagrant shore]

You gave me the direction though. Thanks

[torn yarrow]

i thought my heaphones stopeed working

lol

[somber heath]

#web-development Is a place you can poke around as well.

[vagrant shore]

Shoot!

Did not see that

Thanks a lot.

Can I send you a friend request?

[somber heath]

Yes, but I won't accept it at this point

[vagrant shore]

But will you later? At some point?

[somber heath]

Absent the establishment of a sustained friendship over time, no.

[vagrant shore]

Totally accept that

We cool man

[somber heath]

Very.

I'm often here, so, by all means, hang out.

[vagrant shore]

Will do!

[wind raptor]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[hardy torrent]

Hey everyone, what's up !!

[wind raptor]

!projects

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[wind raptor]

@jagged grotto

[jagged grotto]

what

i can`t speak in english

its difficult

I need an average initial difficulty

project

in one day

I dont have an idea

[wind raptor]

I linked you to a page above

https://nedbatchelder.com/text/kindling.html

Check there for ideas

[lilac karma]

yo guys

anyone good with python here?

[wind raptor]

Can you please change your display name

[jagged grotto]

no one i can do in 2 hours

[lilac karma]

sure

[wind raptor]

Thanks

It's not quite appropriate here

[jagged grotto]

😦

[little rampart]

@cerulean minnow plz if you in a stage where you build a calcualter plz run dont commit go open a bussnice maybe

[jagged grotto]

I totaly can do anything

Okay

I have a one old project

[lilac karma]

guys i need some help with a project

[jagged grotto]

Can u help&

[lilac karma]

so i'm doing a project related to "teleco churn analysis"

[lilac karma]

currently my teammates have completed the model but then i need help to code the website for analysis part

yup

and its my first time doing a project so i have no idea where to start

[grand dew]

hi all

[lilac karma]

any ideas guys?

[wind raptor]

Choose a tech stack and start designing a frontend

Do you know web dev?

[lilac karma]

its using ml btw

[lilac karma]

yea only html

im learning java script

[wind raptor]

It's gonna be pretty rough if you only know html

[lilac karma]

Oh, so what do you recoomend?

[wind raptor]

you need to know html, css and JS to build a site that can hook into a model

[lilac karma]

oh ryt ik CSS

[little rampart]

the cost is time when you dont if you do then the cost is the money

[lilac karma]

JS java script ryt?

[wind raptor]

So then focus on learning how to do fetch requests and displaying the received data on the site

You'll need to fetch your API endpoints on your backend that holds the model

[lilac karma]

damn, i got only like 1 week to complete the code

[little rampart]

sure

hi can i spam to get y 50

msgs ?

or

i cant

do i

[wind raptor]

No

[little rampart]

it *

ah

okey

no problem

[wind raptor]

Stop

Last warning

[little rampart]

sorry i have to ask a question my internship is tomrr

....

[wind raptor]

You can ask it in the chat here

Or have real conversation until you hit 50 msgs

[little rampart]

thats it when i spam i get my 50 msgs

[lilac karma]

also what did you mean by tech stack here?

[wind raptor]

Most people build sites with a framework like react, angular, or something else. That would be part of your tech stack which usually includes a frontend framework, database technology and backend technology

[little rampart]

ok my question is agile methodologies can be applied for any project

i mean

[lilac karma]

is flask one of them?

[little rampart]

even if its not a teck project

did you get me ?

[wind raptor]

Yes. It's often applied outside of programming projects

[lilac karma]

.

[little rampart]

okey i have more detaild questions i will wait the 50 msgs

[wind raptor]

Yes. that is your backend tech

[lilac karma]

ohh

so like what exactly is the front end languages?

html, css and stuff?

[wind raptor]

"vanilla" would be html, css, and js

[lilac karma]

gotcha

can i share more details so u guys could guide me to code them?

[little rampart]

its a uvicorn more then tech company

[wind raptor]

There are css frameworks like bootstrap and tailwind. There are also frontend frameworks like react, angular, svelte, ember, and many more that can replace "vanilla"

[little rampart]

if you want to gain experice go for startups

gaine * experince *

[wind raptor]

You really just need to watch some JS vids on fetching data

check out youtube. there's tons of videos

[little rampart]

micro managment is shii ..

[lilac karma]

yea ig i have a hint about bootstrap, its a website which contains codes for various functions so you could copy paste them for saving time ryt?

idk about tailwind tho

[wind raptor]

Bootstrap has a lot of components you can use on your website. Tailwind is more like just css shortcuts in your html

[little rampart]

the worse they will say yes we are smart

smart means earns more money ?

i lost my focus in life

chat can help you make the final touches

but dont start with it

problem solving with leetcode is nothing btw

if its not codeforces then you are wasting your time

hahah yes

getting maried will help you

haha noo

no you are

sus

this is not real

hey sorry i said yes you can do it in live-code i guess

bye

see you

tunisia

[dapper mist]

@little rampart Can you tell me the source of the Shawarma here?

[honest thorn]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-thompson-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-suspect-gunman-new-york/

@little rampart

scary 😦

[little rampart]

class login(BaseModel):

email : str

password: str

app.post("/login")

def loginapp(login_creda :login):

[dapper mist]

Got it!

I just googled too:

Pydantic is a powerful Python library that leverages type hints to help you easily validate and serialize your data schemas

So similar to how Serializer objects work in Django REST Framework.

[little rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw4LmMQXXFs&list=PL8VzFQ8k4U1L5QpSapVEzoSfob-4CR8zM

[dapper mist]

• I wanted to ask what kind of Authentication was used in your company, where you worked?

[little rampart]

oodo

[dapper mist]

Odoo

Brussels, Belgium

Got it Thanks! 👍

[little rampart]

gerrit

pytest

for unit and integration testing

sorr but you can use pytest i said its very powerful

https://docs.pytest.org/en/stable/

[dapper mist]

https://briankolowitz.github.io/data-focused-python/lectures/Topic 04 - Writing Testable Code/06 - Writing Integration Tests.html

[honest thorn]

ty

[honest thorn]

ty

[whole bear]

@dapper mist you from india?

[dapper mist]

Yes

Vada

https://www.indianhealthyrecipes.com/vada-pav-recipe/

[near drift]

Hey guys

how can I start voice

my voice is supressed

[dapper mist]

@near drift Try #voice-verification

[honest thorn]

i like you guys in the VC but it's MUSIC MOTIVATION TIME

[dapper mist]

You got it! You will need to fulfil those conditions

It's just a security measure to prevent new joiners spamming voice chats

@near drift We probably can have voice chats in a Server called Pythonista

But @little rampart has really interesting stories so I will probably hang around

[serene wing]

@near drift please don't advertise your server

[near drift]

@dapper mist

[dapper mist]

@near drift Got it

I will join in some time

[honest thorn]

@little rampart @dapper mist Here's some new/old music from American Culture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut4c-GTABwc

[lilac karma]

yoo

ok so i just did some research on chat gpt and stuff

and then did some stuff but im getting this error

this

looks like the csv file is'nt in the right directory but then where should i put it then?

@wind raptor

[honest thorn]

I think chatgpt just got like 4X smarter 15 minutes ago

theres a new model

copy that error and ask it again

[lilac karma]

yup did and got this thing

[honest thorn]

i think your issue is that your using a global data set while reading data locally

[lilac karma]

1. Ensure telecodata.csv is in the Correct Directory
   Make sure that the telecodata.csv file is in the same directory as your app.py file. If the CSV file is located elsewhere, you will need to provide the full path to the file.

For example, if telecodata.csv is in a subfolder called data, you should update the path as:

python
Copy code
data = pd.read_csv('data/telecodata.csv')
If you're unsure of the path, you can print the current working directory to help debug:

python
Copy code
import os
print("Current directory:", os.getcwd())
This will display the directory where your script is being executed. Make sure the telecodata.csv file is located in this directory or adjust the file path accordingly.

2. Use Absolute Path (Optional)
   Instead of using a relative path, you can use an absolute path to specify the location of the CSV file. For example:

python
Copy code
data = pd.read_csv(r'C:\Users\gskth\Desktop\ICTPROJECT\flask_app\telecodata.csv')
Replace the path above with the actual absolute path to the CSV file on your system.

3. Check File Name and Extension
   Ensure that the file name and extension are correct. The file name should be telecodata.csv, and the extension should be .csv. If there's any typo in the name, Flask won't be able to find the file.

4. Add the CSV File to the Project Directory
   If you haven't already, move or copy the telecodata.csv file into the same folder as app.py for simplicity. Then the path can just be:

python
Copy code
data = pd.read_csv('telecodata.csv')
Final Example of load_data() Function:
Assuming telecodata.csv is in the same directory as your app.py, the load_data function should look like this:

python
Copy code
@app.before_first_request
def load_data():
global data
data = pd.read_csv('telecodata.csv') # Ensure the file is in the same directory as app.py
data['TotalCharges'] = pd.to_numeric(data['TotalCharges'], errors='coerce')
data = data.dropna()

[honest thorn]

delete line 17

try again

[lilac karma]

uh what does that mean?

ohh

lemme see

[honest thorn]

i think "block" means the scope of the function in that case

[lilac karma]

well

there you go

the website is still showing that

ohh

[honest thorn]

file not found 404

Yeah maybe the path of your file is wrong

maybe i should read the python general chat to help there lol

[whole bear]

https://www.indianhealthyrecipes.com/vada-pav-recipe/

[willow light]

immediately saves to recipe book

[near drift]

cannot speak not did the #voice-verification yet

I'm Good, How are you

anyone plays clash royale

[timid marten]

Not anymore XD

[near drift]

I'm working on a project I'll share some insights

[near drift]

any fav deck (log bait, xbow) or non meta

My best finish on top ladder was 867

Hey @somber heath

What are you up to development lately

It's my thing

I used a oxford base paper lipnet and used it to make a application of it

True

I'll dm you link

here on discord

search lipnet on google and open the first link on arXiv

there's the base paper

Yess

It doesn't yet I'm striving to make it more in terms of context as you can read in my abstract in above images

lip net basically works on a loss function ctc loss and it maps various words of any length to video frames and using the lstm (long short term memory) predict the word based on lip movements this is what lipnet does

sorry?

Connectionist Temporal Classification (CTC) in Neural networks

pm

pm me

explaining is boring for acronyms then they are no more acronyms and the guy asking for it is dumb

yeah fr

elightenment

printf

okay no f

which app

college is good for degrees and social hangouts

python is english

yeah

hmm

enumerate

zip it

fr fr

hahaha

I'm a final year University Engineering Student, you sound like a product manager

hahaha

but genuinely that's what I think

I have morining lecs i will have to go see you later @somber heath

bye bye

[grand dew]

hi all

my mic is suspended so i am share it in chat

what is main difference between python main.py and uvicorn main:app --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8000 --reload

can anyone help me on this

[twin python]

What's your doubt about it

The difference?

The main difference between python (link unavailable) and uvicorn main:app --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8000 --reload is how the Python application is run and served:

python (link unavailable)

• Runs the Python script (link unavailable) directly using the Python interpreter.
• The script is executed in a single process, and the application is not designed to handle multiple requests concurrently.
• Typically used for development, testing, or running small scripts.

uvicorn main:app --host 0.0.0.0 --port 8000 --reload

• Uses the Uvicorn ASGI server to run the application defined in (link unavailable).
• Uvicorn is an ASGI (Asynchronous Server Gateway Interface) server that can handle multiple requests concurrently using asynchronous programming.
• The --host 0.0.0.0 flag specifies that the server should listen on all available network interfaces.
• The --port 8000 flag specifies the port number to use.
• The --reload flag enables automatic reloading of the application when changes are detected in the code.

In summary, uvicorn is a more powerful and production-ready way to run a Python application, especially when using frameworks like FastAPI or Starlette, which support ASGI.

[grand dew]

thnks i understand it

[somber heath]

@livid charm 👋

[jovial iris]

Hello Opal

Discord is having some UI bugs @late spoke

i had couple yesterday on the native client.

[jovial iris]

Maybe you are using the system title bar instead discord's

[late spoke]

no I didn't change anything

maybe they updated it or changed the defaults or something

ah nvm.. its not like the end of the world

[jovial iris]

setting may system setting ke under

but i am using some other client

[somber heath]

@blazing idol @hardy sinew @versed thorn 👋

[hardy sinew]

hai

[versed thorn]

Bot?

[hardy sinew]

?

[somber heath]

@ionic fern 👋

[somber heath]

Nope.

[ionic fern]

hii

[obsidian dragon]

hi

[ionic fern]

i am new

and noobie at coding

wats up guys

rdr2

[versed thorn]

Hey 👋

[hardy sinew]

pikachu

[vocal basin]

subsecond join this time

the VPN gacha gave a lucky location

[hardy sinew]

huh

[late spoke]

uwu

[hardy sinew]

it is the same thing

ye I think

[late spoke]

omae wa

[vocal basin]

!d os.environ

[wise cargo]

os.environ

os.environ```
A [mapping](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-mapping) object where keys and values are strings that represent the process environment. For example, `environ['HOME']` is the pathname of your home directory (on some platforms), and is equivalent to `getenv("HOME")` in C.

This mapping is captured the first time the [`os`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#module-os) module is imported, typically during Python startup as part of processing `site.py`. Changes to the environment made after this time are not reflected in [`os.environ`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.environ), except for changes made by modifying [`os.environ`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.environ) directly.

This mapping may be used to modify the environment as well as query the environment. [`putenv()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.putenv) will be called automatically when the mapping is modified.

[late spoke]

SHINDERU!

[vocal basin]

environ is a funny shortening

[late spoke]

how so

[urban abyss]

Oh hi Ron

[vocal basin]

continuing the tradition of creat

and mk

mod not admin

[late spoke]

silent mod, no mod

🫣

[vocal basin]

(quite easy to guess who I know it from)

Jython

the last version of Jython is, quote, "2.7 (sorry)"

I can buy a macbook

but I don't yet have a reason to

the only issue with my current laptop is that it's only 16GB RAM

"only"

[obsidian dragon]

64

[vocal basin]

computers (including phones) I own have:
4GB
8GB
8GB
16GB
32GB
64GB
128GB

10 months

[vocal basin]

in bold, the new one

(I bought a rpi 4)

[hardy sinew]

u can probs stop the macbook from turning off

[vocal basin]

256GB soon

with a weird processor

from Ryzen 8000s series

9000s don't support 256GB

8000 have low cache size

it's kind of a mobile-style CPU for PC with [for whatever reason] 256GB RAM support

mobile in terms of its graphical and AI-adjacent capabilities

stuff PC CPUs normally don't target

[vocal basin]

tbf my current CPU has the same cache size

L3

I think

other cache levels, iirc, are still better than what I have

[vocal basin]

2024

[vocal basin]

2017

@midnight agate it technically is NN with backpropagation but there's only 1 layer

however smart that statement might sound, it's blatantly wrong

[hardy sinew]

why did everyone leave when u came

[cerulean minnow]

https://youtu.be/ll12kPSi1Xc?si=FpwIjMkN8SXPpeKS

[twin python]

🤡 mention not i generated it from gpt

[near drift]

Anyone playing clash royale or nulls royale DM me we have a community

[small vapor]

guess i gotta talk for awhile before i can get help on code brah

so wsp people of america

[hidden jacinth]

https://youtu.be/U4c6nFGt1iM

Check this

[last wigeon]

Why is the energy usage a bigger multiplier

[cinder vale]

@quartz beacon rock, paper scissors?

@somber heath is the middleman, send him dm of the alternatives

Scissors

[quartz beacon]

✂️

[cinder vale]

scissors

[quartz beacon]

✂️

[cinder vale]

stone

[quartz beacon]

🧻

[somber heath]

@split marten 👋

[split marten]

heyy

wsupp

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[somber heath]

@icy dock 👋

@round forum 👋

[round forum]

i want to ask something about my code but i am muted

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

By all means, ask here or #❓｜how-to-get-help

[torn yarrow]

@peak depot @quartz beacon my spotify wrap

[torn yarrow]

bruh

[torn yarrow]

im eating one rn

yeah, and then american saying ur english is weak

no

Korean is best imo

No

lol

[somber heath]

@harsh skiff 👋

[vocal basin]

and C only ever runs because Python calls into it

[hard island]

sata andagi

[timid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-anime-boy-anime-boy-noodles-gif-24646344

[quartz beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eat-kitty-eating-gif-25422846

[lethal shell]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GxBh2nVSIFI?si=lbl9EZ1G_WIq8Umn

[quick shuttle]

hi

[trim nymph]

hg

[quick shuttle]

HUH

oh I can't speak

i need to wait until 5:14PM today to speak

[vocal basin]

@cinder vale it's normally not issues with specific users, just people splitting conversations

[quick shuttle]

or in about 2 hours

[vocal basin]

so that two discussions don't intersect

[quick shuttle]

but I do have a problem with you, your lame and your late

lmao

[hardy sinew]

erm

[willow gate]

@white vapor hello

[timid marten]

@languid hazel

[grand dew]

hi my mic is suspend

[timid marten]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[grand dew]

ok

oh still i need do this "You have sent less than 50 messages."

thnks man

[vocal basin]

should probably colour predicted separately from real data, for clarity

I haven't looked into what any of CS50 courses contain

but they're said to be quite useful

@keen shell "where's the third option in that question?"

Windows is quite buggy too

UI dies all the time
the whole windows part of Windows

Wacom tablet drivers are pain on Windows

so much easier on Linux

I am considering buying Komplete Audio, the audio card
(from the same company as that program)

though not soon; for now just using a USB mic

yes

it's the cheapest I can buy that doesn't look sketchy

not anymore

this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayan_(accordion)

and piano

I am completely detached from what's happening in terms of cinematic releases

brb

back

I'm just typing stuff then realising I don't have a coherent sentence to send, so I just erase it

[burnt pollen]

yo

hello

fine and u