voice-chat-text-0

[carmine tangle]

my PC when i download free RAM

kept sending the wrong img

[quiet sleet]

LOL

ai sucks (most of the time)

[somber heath]

Crocodile.

[quiet sleet]

we could be using it to help with so many things

but instead we use it to steal art and troll grannies on fb

[quiet sleet]

in a while

[somber heath]

if

[quiet sleet]

if fail == True:
print("BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME BUCKO")

im rather new

i got to if statements and input

OHHH

thanks internet person

in, not im

[somber heath]

!e ```py
if 'abc':
print('A')

if '':
print('B')```

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

A

[quiet sleet]

interesting

[somber heath]

!e ```py
if [...]:
print('A')

if []:
print('B')```

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

A

[quiet sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-listening-listen-listening-cat-silly-cat-gif-4862616051000355128

[somber heath]

!e py print(bool([...])) print(bool([]))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | True
002 | False

[quiet sleet]

so basically if its not filled its false?

[somber heath]

!e ```py
if 1:
print('A')

if 0:
print('B')

if -1:
print('C')```

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | A
002 | C

[quiet sleet]

my bad

i see

wish it wasnt 2:06 AM

programming :D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368511087139618830/1291088801334165554/caption-22-2.gif

I LIKE LISTENING

wrong language buddy 💀

oh 😳

what

megaflushed

its Xx_iforgothisname_xX!

ohhhh

i love that one

we need more code ducks

code duck series

by the science dudes?

i cant even try to spell their name

[somber heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/766674817171849216/1101538097306538005/australianducky.png

[quiet sleet]

the ones who talk about space and black holes and the universe and stuff

one sec

https://www.youtube.com/@kurzgesagt

them

they are good at it

really cool stuff for science nerds like mee

and my brother

AHEM project sundial AHEM

ngl i thought the programming/python community would be more toxic and condescending

there are people

and people suck

ive wanted to learn programming almost my whole life

and im finally dedicating to it

i dont really want to use python, i want to make games with unity and stuff, i was told to learn it as a base

glad they are back

to yknow

i dont want to use godot or unreal

i like unity (not the company)

im inspired by indie devs

yeah ofc

its the internet

Xxrazorface27xX:
get rekd noob lmao get better ur a noob

im paying more games that i used to play when i was younger

i had an old xbox 360 and actually still have it right here right now

never selling it

its too important

sadly im a younger gamer

i do love "retro" games tho, surprise on the workarounds they use

my friend loves half life

i used to play COD black ops 2

and minecraft

and terraria

and then i got a tablet

and all i played

was robloc

roblox*

people say they dont like roblox

its a platform

yeah

i do understand

wait

lemme test

!e print("why is there snake in my pc :( ")

oh

the bot thing

didnt work

the hoh

!e print("why is there snake in my pc :( ")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

why is there snake in my pc :( 

[quiet sleet]

neat

doe input work?

does*

[somber heath]

@fickle veldt 👋

[quiet sleet]

"ookay? just- dont get too exited"

hello

i exist :D

"no fuck you no input haha"

• python bot

i use pycharm but for "multiplayer python" i use VSCode

[somber heath]

!e input()

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

:warning: Note: input is not supported by the bot :warning:

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     input()
004 | EOFError: EOF when reading a line

[quiet sleet]

nuh-uh ☝️

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-says-no-carol-beer-no-way-little-britain-trendizisst-gif-14015902623456325888

[quiet sleet]

bot says no

[quiet sleet]

yoink

well you just restored a bit of my faith in humanity haha

but i gotta hit the hay no

now*

cya

[twilit peak]

guys I did it

I present you my first working prov]ject

I am proud being a 14yo who knows a small tiny bit of python

🙂

[whole bear]

!mute

[twilit peak]

uh

you muted me? 😦

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[brisk bridge]

hi

[karmic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/mihoyo-genshin-genshin-impact-raiden-shogun-baal-ei-hot-chick-babe-gif-23347736

[quiet sleet]

i have returned

its day time now

idk if i wanna talk tho

i sound like a 3 year old

i promise im of age for this app

alot of people do because of how i type and how my voice sounds

my mic stopped gimme a sec

its using my oculus headsets mic 💀

1 sec

LMFAO

[somber heath]

@keen idol 👋

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

With what do you require assistance?

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @keen idol until <t:1731287356:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[somber heath]

@keen idol When you asked if you could spam, I suggested you carefully read the instructions in the #voice-verification channel.

What have we learned?

@bleak scarab 👋

[quiet sleet]

what happened?

[keen idol]

I don't appreciate this message.

[keen idol]

I did spam on purpose.

Seems like the system is indeed working.

😅

@somber heath Why do you sound robotic?

No offence

I mean the way he talks.

I like the accent though

G'day, mate

[quiet sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-can-air-korean-febreze-gif-25686831

https://tenor.com/view/computer-says-no-carol-beer-no-way-little-britain-trendizisst-gif-14015902623456325888

[somber heath]

@neon cave 👋

[neon cave]

hello

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[neon cave]

ive been here less than 3 days sorryt

@somber heath

are you familiar with matplotlib with python?

im having an issue creating interactive - live updating graphs using it

is there a way i can send you the example of my code?

[somber heath]

!code

[wise cargo]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[neon cave]

ive looked up alot of ways online and ive been unable to get it to work haha

ik its very slow haha im forced into it via my course requirements

ive been trying to make a simple pong game using it and ive got the ball working but it was very slow

i then made a more concise versio but the ball stoped moving lol

short non working version: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/3Q3Q

long version that works: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/DEAA

[somber heath]

https://pythonprogramming.net/python-matplotlib-live-updating-graphs/ Maybe.

[neon cave]

its been a struggle man haha

does funcanimation not turn it into a video / gif?

ooo that does sound promising

i also dont even have tkinter 😭

i am forced to use online compiler cocalc

whats the word you use to import tkinter?

yea says not a known library

yea idfk man this software is terrible

i will look into this haha

i appreciate it man youve given me some more leads to look into i had almost given up lol

cya later enjoy your night guys

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     import tkinter as tk
004 |   File "/snekbin/python/3.12/lib/python3.12/tkinter/__init__.py", line 38, in <module>
005 |     import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured for Tk
006 |     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
007 | ImportError: libtk8.6.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[somber heath]

@azure fiber 👋

[azure fiber]

You don't sound robotic but I cannot speak at all :(

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[azure fiber]

You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons :(

Why does this exist?

😂

Is it on every channel?

😂

Yep you're lagging now

Ye it's better now I'll head out for now once I'll achieve the Voice permission i'll be back just like terminator 👍 😂

Have a good one mate

[late spoke]

Good morning Opal

[quiet sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368511087139618830/1291088801334165554/caption-22-2.gif

hey

cant speak buch

much*

its midnight

sh*t i gotta go lol

cya

[blazing vale]

hi

im finish my game

import random
random.random()
botchoice = ["rock","paper","scisors"]
playornot = (input('اذا تريد اللعب اكتب العب واذا لا تريد اكتب خروج'))
if playornot == 'خروج':
    print ("الى اللقاء")
    exit
while playornot == 'العب':
    bot = random.choice(botchoice)
    playerchoice = (input("اختار حجر ورق مقص"))
    if playerchoice == "حجر" and bot == "scisors" or playerchoice == "ورق" and bot == "rock" or playerchoice == "مقص" and bot == "paper":
        print("فاز اللاعب!")
    if playerchoice == "حجر" and bot == "paper" or playerchoice == "ورق" and bot == "scisors" or playerchoice == "مقص" and bot == "rock":
        print("اللاعب خسر")
    if playerchoice == "حجر" and bot == "rock" or playerchoice == "ورق" and bot == "paper" or playerchoice == "مقص" and bot == "scisors":
        print("تعادل")
    playornot = (input('اذا تريد اللعب اكتب العب واذا لا تريد اكتب خروج'))
    if playornot == "خروج":
        print ("الى اللقاء")
        exit

@somber heath i finish

[vocal basin]

"the optimal implementation"

from random import choice
_ = input("Rock, Paper, or Scissors: ")
print(choice(["Win", "Loss", "Draw"]))

@upper basin deserialisation is one of the cases where it makes sense to use Rust for reasons other than performance

serde simplifies parsing a lot

[upper basin]

So, port the from framework module to Rust?

[vocal basin]

I don't think it does

match is slower than if

in all cases that I've measured

[somber heath]

@arctic salmon 👋

[arctic salmon]

Hello

[vocal basin]

which does not include nested matching

I guess for giant match statements it might try to optimize

[karmic rain]

how old are you bro:?

[vocal basin]

!timeit

value = ""

match value:
    case "a": pass
    case "b": pass
    case "c": pass
    case "d": pass
    case "e": pass
    case "f": pass
    case "g": pass
    case "h": pass
    case "i": pass

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 timeit job has completed with return code 0.

5000000 loops, best of 5: 73.5 nsec per loop

[vocal basin]

!timeit

value = ""

if value == "a": pass
elif value == "b": pass
elif value == "c": pass
elif value == "d": pass
elif value == "e": pass
elif value == "f": pass
elif value == "g": pass
elif value == "h": pass
elif value == "i": pass

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 timeit job has completed with return code 0.

5000000 loops, best of 5: 82.9 nsec per loop

[vocal basin]

huh

well, this time match is faster

hmm

[karmic rain]

@somber heath your voice is similar ;

[vocal basin]

!timeit

value = ""

match value:
    case "a": pass
    case "b": pass
    case "c": pass

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 timeit job has completed with return code 0.

10000000 loops, best of 5: 34.9 nsec per loop

[vocal basin]

!timeit

value = ""

if value == "a": pass
elif value == "b": pass
elif value == "c": pass

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 timeit job has completed with return code 0.

10000000 loops, best of 5: 36.3 nsec per loop

[blazing vale]

why you just type pass?

[vocal basin]

okay it might've gotten faster recently

[somber heath]

!d pass

[wise cargo]

pass

7.4. The pass statement

pass_stmt ::=  "pass"
``` [`pass`](https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#pass) is a null operation — when it is executed, nothing happens. It is useful as a placeholder when a statement is required syntactically, but no code needs to be executed, for example:

```py
def f(arg): pass    # a function that does nothing (yet)

class C: pass       # a class with no methods (yet)

[vocal basin]

likely got optimized in recent versions

in 3.10 it was not fast at all

[blazing vale]

im still dont understand

[somber heath]

!e py if True: print('Hello.')

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello.

[vocal basin]

!timeit

# setup
mapping = {
    "a": lambda: None,
    "b": lambda: None,
    "c": lambda: None,
    "d": lambda: None,
    "e": lambda: None,
    "f": lambda: None,
    "g": lambda: None,
    "h": lambda: None,
    "i": lambda: None,
}
default = lambda: None

value = ""

mapping.get(value, default)()

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 timeit job has completed with return code 0.

5000000 loops, best of 5: 49 nsec per loop

[vocal basin]

(faster than both)

[somber heath]

!e py if True: pass

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[blazing vale]

hmm

[somber heath]

!e py if True:

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     if True:
003 | IndentationError: expected an indented block after 'if' statement on line 1

[blazing vale]

oh

[upper basin]

Yeah, the lazy evaluation is quite useful.

[blazing vale]

if some thing happend:

pass

[somber heath]

!e py if True: 'abc'

[wise cargo]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[blazing vale]

we have to type to do something if its true

[somber heath]

!e py if False:

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     if False:
003 | IndentationError: expected an indented block after 'if' statement on line 1

[blazing vale]

ahh

if blabla == 'bla'
   print('beb')
else:
pass

then if is not
we drop the code away

[somber heath]

Indent on the pass

Or remove else pass

Ideally that.

[blazing vale]

hmmm

i have an idia

cake = (input('do you bay a cake from shop'))
if cake == 'yes':
pass
elif cake == 'no':
print ('go bay')

[somber heath]

cake = (input('do you bay a cake from shop'))
if cake == 'yes':
    pass
elif cake == 'no':
    print ('go bay')

[blazing vale]

i know but

it dont work in discord

[somber heath]

@merry cargo 👋

[merry cargo]

Hello

[somber heath]

@plush ether 👋

[blazing vale]

i well try agin

[merry cargo]

Are you a teacher ?

[blazing vale]

i can type space

in python IDLE

he awto

[merry cargo]

That’s good man keep doing what your doing 🔥 💯

[blazing vale]

type space

from self

[plush ether]

Hi

[blazing vale]

in IDLE

if bla == 'bla':
  print('bla bla bla')

but in discord

[twin python]

I'm in a bus

Fuck public they are so noisy

[blazing vale]

if bla == 'bla':
print ('blablabla')

[twin python]

Yeah dawg

[blazing vale]

i dont know why?

[twin python]

It's India so obv it's noisy and laggy

[plush ether]

I agree

[upper basin]

!e

if bla == 'bla':
    print('bla')

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     if bla == 'bla':
004 |        ^^^
005 | NameError: name 'bla' is not defined

[somber heath]

@ebon crag 👋

[blazing vale]

just that!?

[somber heath]

!indent

[wise cargo]

Indentation

Indentation is leading whitespace (spaces and tabs) at the beginning of a line of code. In the case of Python, they are used to determine the grouping of statements.

Spaces should be preferred over tabs. To be clear, this is in reference to the character itself, not the keys on a keyboard. Your editor/IDE should be configured to insert spaces when the TAB key is pressed. The amount of spaces should be a multiple of 4, except optionally in the case of continuation lines.

Example

def foo():
    bar = 'baz'  # indented one level
    if bar == 'baz':
        print('ham')  # indented two levels
    return bar  # indented one level

The first line is not indented. The next two lines are indented to be inside of the function definition. They will only run when the function is called. The fourth line is indented to be inside the if statement, and will only run if the if statement evaluates to True. The fifth and last line is like the 2nd and 3rd and will always run when the function is called. It effectively closes the if statement above as no more lines can be inside the if statement below that line.

Indentation is used after:
1. Compound statements (eg. if, while, for, try, with, def, class, and their counterparts)
2. Continuation lines

More Info
1. Indentation style guide
2. Tabs or Spaces?
3. Official docs on indentation

[blazing vale]

ok

[somber heath]

@tidal seal 👋

[blazing vale]

i understand

thank you every one

[twin python]

Bee craft

I would rather play clash of clans for life

Pal world

They literally did a great job

Imagine suing a game in this world of open-source

Guys can u try to sound a little lively

[quiet sleet]

i really cant for personal reasons

[twin python]

It's like I am listening to ai bots

[upper basin]

How did you figure it out?

[blazing vale]

anyone use scratch

[upper basin]

Ok f{username}, you caught us. We are discord bots designed by Mr. Hemlock!

[twin python]

you sound exactly like a robo

And I'm definitely not last

U can sell your voice package

[somber heath]

@proud glen 👋

[twin python]

Literally will work

Do u sing?

Yeah lol me too I hate male ai voices

They're too manly

Almost unreal

U have a natural robo voice

How long will it take for me to learn python?

[plush ether]

What about django?

Which framework do you use

Okayy

[somber heath]

!zen

[wise cargo]

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[twin python]

I feel demotivated

[plush ether]

Why

[twin python]

How you guys motivate yourself to implement and complete a project?

[twin python]

There is a lot of pressure which doesn't allow me to focus

[plush ether]

What kind of pressure

In terms of getting a job? Or studying?

[twin python]

Yeah idc but it doesn't let me focus

[plush ether]

I agree, it's the same situation here

[twin python]

I have been getting responses from recruiters it's always like I'm short on experience or they just want me to work for free

[plush ether]

I hear you. It’s tough out there, but don’t settle for unpaid work

Freelancing might be a good way to gain experience

[twin python]

My forefathers worked so hard to abolish slavery i ain't doing it

No matter what

[twin python]

Yeah

[vocal basin]

+1
https://youtu.be/jVkLVRt6c1U

[twin python]

W

[twin python]

Video unavailable

They don't want me watching it

[plush ether]

W

[plush ether]

Just search it if the link isn't working 😭

[twin python]

Tried

Imma use torrent

[somber heath]

@ripe cipher 👋

[twin python]

🫰

[somber heath]

Hm?

[twin python]

We taking a short break?

And I'm still in da bus

Population overload is crazy

@worldly robin ciao

[plush ether]

Which city are you from?

[twin python]

Delhi

Overcrowded asf

[plush ether]

lmao that's true

I'm from Karnataka

[twin python]

Indians really need to hesitate

[twin python]

Damn nice

Atleast you have better air quality

[plush ether]

yes we do

And much safer

[twin python]

I am from uttrakhand

My life was ruined in this state

[plush ether]

ohh you work in Delhi?

[twin python]

Yeah

[plush ether]

now how's life?

[twin python]

Much worse i study in delhi

[plush ether]

which degree?

[twin python]

It's better 🤣

[twin python]

B tech

[plush ether]

That's great

[plush ether]

final year?

[twin python]

Yeah

[plush ether]

Ouh all the bestt

[twin python]

Probably will be unemployed this year

Or will join sales

[plush ether]

try doing internship's

[twin python]

That's the plan

I did one remote at isro

That's all

Need a offline one

[plush ether]

That’s awesome

[plush ether]

dw you'll get one

[twin python]

Thanks

What do you do?

Are u a developer?

[plush ether]

I study

[twin python]

Oh nice

What kind of? School?

[plush ether]

No, bca 3rd year

@upper basin are you coding something?

[plush ether]

@somber heath what are you talking about??

[sage oak]

Hey 👋

[turbid parcel]

yo

any

one

there

[twin python]

Yeah

[somber heath]

@lusty cape 👋

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[lusty cape]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[lusty cape]

I'm gonna wait 3 days until i get voice verif

jeje, well not problem

@somber heath 👋

[somber heath]

@winged widget 👋

[winged widget]

i still cant talk 😦

huhu

@somber heath

[somber heath]

I read you.

[winged widget]

😄

ye

wie geht es dier?

[somber heath]

You haven't enough messages on the server, for one.

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

German is not a language in which I am proficient.

[winged widget]

how are you?

[somber heath]

The world is perfect with no flaws and everyone is living in peace and harmony.

I'm fucking brilliant.

[winged widget]

yee hahahah

[whole bear]

hi this is 4DOS

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

wait what?

whats up opal

gotta do my voice verification on this account too i gues

i think a reasonable mod would bypass known members on other accounts

Oh yea

one sec

[quaint oyster]

I've been summoned

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/exodia-yu-gi-oh-anime-summon-gif-17959838

how did you misspell dude that bad

[quaint oyster]

Idk dude I'm talking to myself rn

[whole bear]

anything new with you opal

that's crazy you live there now?

new job

new wife

new kids

death

murder

drugs

disease

the world is far from perfect

everything in life is a half liquidy cup

https://tenor.com/view/glass-half-full-optimist-glass-half-full-or-empty-glass-half-empty-pessimist-gif-10862127

what time is it for you now

any exciting projects

so what you be up to

same

what though

nice

ima start doing leet code

again

oh yuh

i like watching this dude

that spends winters in the woods

oh yea that's nice to fall asleep to

[somber heath]

@coral temple 👋

[coral temple]

hello

[cold isle]

Is ther anybody here?

How mnay people on server

[somber heath]

@open lion 👋

[rugged root]

!stream 1127458312938598460

[wise cargo]

✅ @still herald can now stream until <t:1731426815:f>.

[upper basin]

!paste

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[upper basin]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/YT6A

[amber raptor]

Depends on your country but in United States, it would do nothing.

[upper basin]

I tried to follow AF's advice to separate aliasing from mapping to attribute.

[whole bear]

@rugged root How you doing?

GPU hungry notebook

What exactly do you want?

An IDE for python? python docs ? Help?

[amber raptor]

Bingo!

[rugged root]

You did call it, I concede

[whole bear]

Have you tried tryhackme.com ?

learnpython.org is good for learning python

But if you want to learn advanced concepts in python, you have to hustle

Leetcode is a good but best approach is to build projects

No

Software development includes feasibility.
If it's not a feasible idea it isn't a great just move on

[rugged root]

Not to say it can't be feasible later, maybe just not now

[vocal basin]

whose memory

[whole bear]

Genie : You have three wishes
Programmer: Make it zero
Genie: Okay, now you have 255

//Explain why?

[vocal basin]

@rugged root have you ever seen Outline (wiki)?

[vocal basin]

did you mean 255

[whole bear]

Yes

My bad

[vocal basin]

so far, the fastest rate of adoption within where I work

I did not expect people to like it and start using it that much

I guess anything is good after switching from Confluence

[whole bear]

Yeah it is but it's a great way to learn new things

[vocal basin]

@rugged root (this one I'd expect you've heard of)

Python lambdas are ugly

even by python's standard

|a| |b| a + b

when I'm back home, I'll do some benchmarks of hashmap vs array (Rust not Python)

for async-ffi

[upper basin]

AF, would you go with my factory method approach, or this match case one?

[vocal basin]

oxalica's library lacks optimisations for waker equivalence

she's not really focusing on that recently it seems

[whole bear]

class ShrinkFactor:
    def __init__(self, first, second):
        self.first = first
        self.second = second

class MyStack:
    def __init__(self, length=10):
        self.data = [None] * length
        self.last = -1
        self.minimum_capacity = 100
        self.factor = ShrinkFactor(10, 5)

    def push(self, element):
        if self.is_full(): self.resize()
        self.last += 1
        self.data[self.last] = element

    def pop(self):
        if self.is_empty(): raise Exception("Stack is empty")
        if len(self.data) > self.size() * self.factor.first: self.shrink()
        element = self.data[self.last]
        self.last -= 1
        return element

    def is_full(self): return self.last + 1 == len(self.data)
    def is_empty(self): return self.last == -1
    def size(self): return self.last + 1

    def resize(self): 
        self.data = self.data[:self.size()] + [None] * self.size()

    def shrink(self):
        if len(self.data) > self.minimum_capacity:
            self.data = self.data[:self.size()] + [None] * (self.size() * self.factor.second)

    def set_shrink_factor(self, factor): self.factor = factor
    def set_minimum_capacity(self, capacity): self.minimum_capacity = capacity
    def peek(self):
        if self.is_empty(): raise Exception("Stack is empty")
        return self.data[self.last]
    def clear(self): self.last = -1
    def display(self):
        print("->".join(str(self.data[i]) for i in range(self.size())) + "->End")
        print(f"Size: {self.size()}\n")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    int_stack = MyStack()

    for i in range(1, 6): int_stack.push(i)
    int_stack.display()

    print(f"popped {int_stack.pop()}\n")
    int_stack.display()

    print(f"peeked: {int_stack.peek()}")
    print(f"isEmpty(): {int_stack.is_empty()}\n"
          f"isFull(): {int_stack.is_full()}\n")

    print("Clearing stack using clear()...")
    int_stack.clear()

    print(f"checking if cleared: {int_stack.is_empty()}")

[vocal basin]

oh wait data and vtable are getting stabilised

rust 1.83

[whole bear]

How do I run this code? In chat?

!e

class ShrinkFactor:
    def __init__(self, first, second):
        self.first = first
        self.second = second

class MyStack:
    def __init__(self, length=10):
        self.data = [None] * length
        self.last = -1
        self.minimum_capacity = 100
        self.factor = ShrinkFactor(10, 5)

    def push(self, element):
        if self.is_full(): self.resize()
        self.last += 1
        self.data[self.last] = element

    def pop(self):
        if self.is_empty(): raise Exception("Stack is empty")
        if len(self.data) > self.size() * self.factor.first: self.shrink()
        element = self.data[self.last]
        self.last -= 1
        return element

    def is_full(self): return self.last + 1 == len(self.data)
    def is_empty(self): return self.last == -1
    def size(self): return self.last + 1

    def resize(self): 
        self.data = self.data[:self.size()] + [None] * self.size()

    def shrink(self):
        if len(self.data) > self.minimum_capacity:
            self.data = self.data[:self.size()] + [None] * (self.size() * self.factor.second)

    def set_shrink_factor(self, factor): self.factor = factor
    def set_minimum_capacity(self, capacity): self.minimum_capacity = capacity
    def peek(self):
        if self.is_empty(): raise Exception("Stack is empty")
        return self.data[self.last]
    def clear(self): self.last = -1
    def display(self):
        print("->".join(str(self.data[i]) for i in range(self.size())) + "->End")
        print(f"Size: {self.size()}\n")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    int_stack = MyStack()

    for i in range(1, 6): int_stack.push(i)
    int_stack.display()

    print(f"popped {int_stack.pop()}\n")
    int_stack.display()

    print(f"peeked: {int_stack.peek()}")
    print(f"isEmpty(): {int_stack.is_empty()}\n"
          f"isFull(): {int_stack.is_full()}\n")

    print("Clearing stack using clear()...")
    int_stack.clear()

    print(f"checking if cleared: {int_stack.is_empty()}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1->2->3->4->5->End
002 | Size: 5
003 | 
004 | popped 5
005 | 
006 | 1->2->3->4->End
007 | Size: 4
008 | 
009 | peeked: 4
010 | isEmpty(): False
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FZNW7TY3IP2ISVCF53AOZERA6A

[amber raptor]

Factory must grow.

Also, Apple Intelligence is bad and should feel bad.

[upper basin]

!zen

[wise cargo]

The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than right now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[amber raptor]

!e python import this

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters
002 | 
003 | Beautiful is better than ugly.
004 | Explicit is better than implicit.
005 | Simple is better than complex.
006 | Complex is better than complicated.
007 | Flat is better than nested.
008 | Sparse is better than dense.
009 | Readability counts.
010 | Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/6SXSD3UR6ONLRE67MVN7VKDAGA

[upper basin]

!paste

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[upper basin]

AF, is this what you meant by separating aliasing from mapping to attributes?
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/MOAQ

[vocal basin]

such a giant change

now I can't just say I don't use hashmaps because it's unstable

for mapping wakers to whatever

[vocal basin]

L65~80

yes

[upper basin]

One moment...

Ok, 65-80 is the separation of aliasing from mapping?

Good to know. Thank you very much!

[short owl]

gobble gooble , gobble gooble , one of us one of us ( which movie is that from ?) @rugged root

[upper basin]

I think it was gooba goo.

I think Simpsons?

[rugged root]

It wasn't Simpsons

[short owl]

come on kids , guess guess

[rugged root]

I can see the image in my head

I don't think I ever knew the name of the movie, though

[short owl]

Freaks ! , its actually good

need to find a backyard mechanic - they exist @molten pewter

need a buddy with a garage , drink beer , fix shit

double garage , @molten pewter

what do insurance companys say about electric cars - lithium

[upper basin]

I don't wanna be an american, so freaking bad.
I'm losing all the stuff I ever had.

Despacitooo

[short owl]

just get a mini van a granny drove on sundays ....

[rugged root]

I love my mini van, I will fight you

[short owl]

its a flexible vehicle for sure

you ever gonna link , OpenCV to your robot arms ? @gilded rivet

[cinder mirage]

hi

[rugged root]

Yo

[vocal basin]

although that's only going really stable soon

for now only beta

[vocal basin]

an opportunity to mention something funny

how many seconds pass between two stable Rust releases?
10!

[short owl]

you can have LEDs as guidance points around room , just pulse code them , mmm if cam can see strobes @gilded rivet

[vocal basin]

@rugged root @upper basin

||it's six weeks||

it's on 1.82

[gilded rivet]

That's what this is

[vocal basin]

@upper basin read through data model docs

[gilded rivet]

Optitrack motion tracking system

[vocal basin]

__getattr__, __getattribute__

[still herald]

hello

[gilded rivet]

@rugged root

[rugged root]

I forgot you had the big ass box for all of that, too

[still herald]

how do you like import the vs code into gitgub?

[gilded rivet]

Also You'd like this

[still herald]

i mean there are too many ways

[gilded rivet]

With sound

[vocal basin]

btw, Forgejo allows to customise the "import into {IDE}" menu

[vocal basin]

I misread box as fox
that was quite confusing

[short owl]

Printer Shanty @gilded rivet

[rugged root]

class Celsius:
  def __init__(self, temperature=0):
    self.temperature = temperature

  def to_fahrenheit(self):
    return (self.temperature * 1.8) + 32

  @property
  def temperature(self):
    return self._temperature

  @temperature.setter
  def temperature(self, value):
    if value < -273.15:
      raise ValueError("Temperature below -273.15 is not possible.")
    self._temperature = value

[vocal basin]

.wa short 0 K to degrees Celsius

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

-273.2 °C (degrees Celsius)

[vocal basin]

I was not expecting a less precise answer

.wa short 0 K to degrees Celsius, 10 digits

[viscid lagoon]

Wolfram Alpha

-273.15 °C (degrees Celsius)

[vocal basin]

I guess makes sense to standardize it rounded

since 0°C is tied to a not so precise thing

[still herald]

?

[vocal basin]

I normally just clone the repositories manually

I'm still outside and walking, can't look at the video

[gilded rivet]

@rugged root Thought you'd like this

I need to go do some nonsense

[still herald]

like how?

[vocal basin]

git clone

--recurse-submodules

[digital wharf]

pineapple on pizza is a crime

[vocal basin]

what about oranges

[digital wharf]

what the hell

thats a sick joke right

[vocal basin]

also zefir

[vocal basin]

I can find audio evidence

[digital wharf]

😐

[short owl]

pizzzzza is savory and cheesy gooey , thems the rules

[vocal basin]

broccoli pizza

cauliflower pizza

these I've tried

[short owl]

feta cheese pizza is good

[vocal basin]

and this abomination

very spicy pepperoni covered in caramel was not something I could eat

[short owl]

worchestshire is good in soups , stews

[rugged root]

@upper basin Trying to finish something for work

[upper basin]

All good. Sorry for bothering.

[vocal basin]

php stands for php hates programmers

[rugged root]

You're not bothering, I just need to finish this, that's all

[vocal basin]

can look but eating

[short owl]

did you ever make a pizza in a pan ? @gentle flint

[vocal basin]

rewrite it in Haskell

lazy evaluation out of the box

concise language

Python can indeed be forced into lazy evaluation quite well

!e

print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 100)())

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000

[vocal basin]

I wonder if it can do 10000

!e

print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 10000)())

I guess not

ah, right, recursion

!e

print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 1000)())

uh

I'm too lazy to add recursion limit thing

!d sys.setrecursionlimit

[wise cargo]

sys.setrecursionlimit

sys.setrecursionlimit(limit)```
Set the maximum depth of the Python interpreter stack to *limit*. This limit prevents infinite recursion from causing an overflow of the C stack and crashing Python.

The highest possible limit is platform\-dependent. A user may need to set the limit higher when they have a program that requires deep recursion and a platform that supports a higher limit. This should be done with care, because a too\-high limit can lead to a crash.

If the new limit is too low at the current recursion depth, a [`RecursionError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#RecursionError) exception is raised.

Changed in version 3\.5\.1: A [`RecursionError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#RecursionError) exception is now raised if the new limit is too low at the current recursion depth.

[vocal basin]

left as an exercise for the reader

I'm not using tail call optimisation there because I can't

it's not that esoteric

quite consistently written

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bKupx.gif

[vocal basin]

you can simplify it and end up with a more esoteric version

(lambda: ...)()

(this appears there)

"practical food?? have you seen the prices???"

can be reused as white paint afterwards

both

cheese pizza cheese topping cheese
in that order

what about open bakeries at 2 a.m.

in case someone wakes up from acute bread deficit

truly an emergency

[gentle flint]

I have encountered this problem before

for this reason I keep a small supply of par-baked bread rolls

[rugged root]

Like....

Switches: Optical Infrared Mechanical switches provide maximum speed and reliability, with no missing or double letters, and an extraordinary feel.

Tactile – Tactile feedback with a quiet operation for a satisfying feel.
Clicky – Tactile feedback and a soft-click sound for a great typing experience.
Linear – A smooth Linear feedback with a quiet operation.

[vocal basin]

I think I have tactile, doesn't seem clicky

[split field]

https://www.moergo.com/

[rugged root]

That's the one I use

[vocal basin]

funny gap

[rugged root]

https://trulyergonomic.com/ergonomic-keyboards/

[vocal basin]

Tactile "Quiet"
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards/mx-mechanical.html

nothing is quiet when I type on it

[rugged root]

Blues are click, Browns are tactile, Reds are linear

[vocal basin]

(this one is between laptopy low-profile keyboard and proper)

this one is not that bad

I think it's something like 4mm

it's a very good keyboard

especially compared to other logitech products

(in terms of double clicks and stuff)

((does not have those))

logitech has severe radio issues on every wireless thing it has

(almost)

[rugged root]

Range wise or

[split field]

I've had this keyboard too :/

[whole bear]

ah yes

another day another 10 minute period

this is 4DOS on another account btw

[rugged root]

It's a step in the right direction

Wait why use another one?

[whole bear]

ummm idk

different devices

[vocal basin]

how it actually processes events when the signal does fail

@gentle flint @devout kelp for async embedded, Rust

micropython asyncio is very limited

it's basically just TCP I think

and sleep

[rugged root]

I've heard people say that as an option but that still confuses me. My phone is the same account as my desktop

[vocal basin]

it makes sense when you do different parts of media on different devices

video/audio

audio in/audio out

etc

[whole bear]

but then you can't join the same call with 2 different accounts >:)

[vocal basin]

you can have a single account in different servers' VCs

[whole bear]

yea but not same one

[vocal basin]

yes

[buoyant drum]

yeah

[amber raptor]

I can't think if of legit non troll reason to do this

[vocal basin]

video on one device, audio on the other is the common one

[whole bear]

^

not that I actually have a use case

haha

[vocal basin]

pappycat

[vocal basin]

@rugged root

[robust bone]

does anyone have worked on Emails sending python projects ?

[rugged root]

Projects that email things for you? Just making sure I understand what you're meaning

[robust bone]

worked with python libraries or api keys for sending emails managing them

I'm a student

0$

Brevo !

https://app.brevo.com

they provide 300 emails per day for free feature

[rugged root]

Neat

[robust bone]

I'm working on a internship project

Its about sending Bulk mails at once !

in the document they are expecting it to be better then Gmail in management of sending bulk emails

[amber raptor]

Ok, use one of bulk email senders like SES

[robust bone]

I'll look into it Thanks !

[amber raptor]

https://www.mailhub.sh/

[rugged root]

So the switch brands I'm looking at are:

• Gateron
• Kailh
• Akko
• Otemu

Now to look through them, check prices, etc

https://www.gateron.co/

[merry cargo]

@rugged root can you please voice verify me i cant speak in here please

yes i do

yo bro cause i been in here so i had to leave the server and join back my stuff was messed up bro thats why

its ok man thanks tho bro

im just trying to learn how to code brody

[whole bear]

its okay bro we can wait our time

i love rats

:)

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dancing-rat-dancing-gif-24339527

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/EThU.gif

[merry cargo]

wth is tis lmao

[whole bear]

a rat hitting the griddy

[merry cargo]

i hate rats bru

[whole bear]

would you like me to send you one?

:)

[merry cargo]

goahead

let me see

[whole bear]

u promise you'll open it as administrator?

[merry cargo]

yessir

[whole bear]

just kidding

❤️ 🙂

[merry cargo]

text me on dms rq

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-11399444358411290094

[gentle flint]

keychron

[whole bear]

this what i using rn

[whole bear]

i would cry having to use this

two sets of arrow keys though?

ah

[merry cargo]

that keyboard is not it gang

lol

wtf

[tepid mantle]

bruh

[late spoke]

but its not accurate

[whole bear]

which control do you use the most

[late spoke]

its good for niche use cases

[whole bear]

but your pinky wouldn't be above shift

[merry cargo]

asalam alikom bro

[whole bear]

the left pinky is all the way lower left

ohhh i see

where's tab

[late spoke]

wa-alaikum (greeting)

[merry cargo]

im brand new to coding brother so ye lol

[whole bear]

wa alaykom asalam wa rahmatolahee wabarakato

[late spoke]

where you from?

[merry cargo]

afghanistan

[late spoke]

cool

[merry cargo]

yessir wbu

[whole bear]

he's using that mouse with a different limb

[late spoke]

India .. we have a lot of Afghanis here in New Delhi

[merry cargo]

oh yes ofc brody nice

help me out bro lol im brand new but im living in california

[late spoke]

you can ask specific questions, I would answer if its something I know

[tepid mantle]

reminds me of "Git the princess!"

[whole bear]

alt tabbing on your keyboard seems like hell @rugged root

[merry cargo]

im just trying to learn from the beggining bro likei i dont know how to code at all

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @split field until <t:1731440074:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[rugged root]

!unmute 540373904401629185

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction timeout for @split field.

[late spoke]

everyone starts at zero. In the starting everyone feels so lost

[whole bear]

I only see two alts on the left and right corners, i thought that was spacebar

[merry cargo]

your right im so lost rightnow lol 😭

[late spoke]

1-2 years at trying bunch of things, tutorials .. courses.. etc .. and that feeling will go away

[whole bear]

^ just gotta keep coding

and not talking on discord >:)

[merry cargo]

hopefully mane you know

[late spoke]

best help I can offer is this advice: "take baby steps" .. one by one.. try a few tutorials.. courses or read books..

people build skills slowly

thats life

[merry cargo]

where do i find the tutorials bro

[late spoke]

youtube

[merry cargo]

thankls brother

[late spoke]

edx, coursera are good for courses

[merry cargo]

what is this that your working on mane

[late spoke]

my site

[merry cargo]

oh wow thats nice like what type of site is that

[rugged root]

Crap, back later

[late spoke]

I'm still thinking about it, work in progress

[merry cargo]

oh ok ok sounds good bro

how long did it take you to code this SOMEAB

it looks like a lot of work mane

lol

[late spoke]

few weeks atleast.. but first time can be longer

thanks for the company everyone.. I gotta sleep.. will be back tomorrow 🙂

[merry cargo]

ok bro have a good night mane

talk to you tommorrow brother

bye

[karmic rain]

@somber heath hello :/

[karmic rain]

@somber heath what you think about bracket notation for objects

[somber heath]

@dim folio 👋

[dim folio]

hi

im new

[somber heath]

@distant zephyr 👋

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[karmic rain]

like adding a value in object

yes

[whole bear]

hello

just vc hopping

dont mind me

whats up in here

spectacular

i still need to wait 3 days

ill see you in 2

you alone are the appetizer main dish and dessert alone

[karmic rain]

see you soon guys

:/

[sly tinsel]

Hello?

Do you guys help with code?

It's the 1st problem in python-help if you can check it out

[somber heath]

@hidden sorrel 👋

[somber heath]

Echidna

[somber heath]

@drifting sable 👋

[drifting sable]

hi

[somber heath]

https://api.deepai.org/job-view-file/4beba015-cc64-4659-96a3-3f782299621c/outputs/output.jpg?art-image=true

@plush ether 👋

[plush ether]

hey, how are you?

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[quartz beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015885482460201013/1115904528332619837/IMG_20230606_141512.jpg?ex=6735a614&is=67345494&hm=b1e14242c4a247117383b625e204125aee4b74d656db9c7638c083324a2839dc&

This is a hare

[somber heath]

@plucky mason 👋

[plucky mason]

@somber heath Heey

[upper basin]

@rugged root Hemlooock, wanna see my new fix for the issue I mentioned yesterday?

Also, best of mornings to you sir.

[plush ether]

@upper basin I need to drop 50 msgs

I have left something 7-8

[upper basin]

I see.

[plush ether]

Okayy

[upper basin]

How's your day going?

What do you mean?

You mean taped?

Oh, yeah. Taped.

[plush ether]

great, how about you?

[upper basin]

Mine's almost ending.

[plush ether]

yeah sorry typo

[upper basin]

No worries.

I have a meeting later at midnight, but pretty much same ol same ol.

[plush ether]

what's time over there??

[upper basin]

9:43 pm.

[plush ether]

You have meeting's at midnight????

[upper basin]

Yeah.

[plush ether]

ohh okayy

[upper basin]

Most of my meetings are at night, due to the timezone difference with US, UK, and Canada.

[plush ether]

got it

[upper basin]

Do you have a python question, or just hanging out?

[plush ether]

I wanted a suggestion

Ai internship is better or web dev??

[upper basin]

Depends on which you prefer.

I think job wise web dev is better.

[plush ether]

Okayy thankyou

[upper basin]

My pleasure.

[plush ether]

Btw thanks for helping out, I'll complete verification

[exotic adder]

yo

its 10th msg

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[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @exotic adder until <t:1731510295:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[peak siren]

!unmute 1291805928370208778 spamming to get voice gate is not allowed. I'll unmute you from chat but you'll be blocked from voice for 2 weeks

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction timeout for @exotic adder.

[terse rose]

https://tortoise.github.io/

https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE

[exotic adder]

Someone find a sollution for this!

[lusty cape]

how can i get verified

is there an easier way?

[plush ether]

nah, I just got verified today

I felt like I waited so long

[rugged root]

@cosmic chasm I know a bit about GODOT

[cosmic chasm]

its just my game won't seem to work

the camera2D i added seemed to fluff it up

if it is can u join code/help

yeah that would be awesome

like coding?

[rugged root]

https://discord.gg/godotengine

[cosmic chasm]

thx

[rugged root]

https://godotengine.org/community/

[cosmic chasm]

mr hemlock. could u do me a favor and just see if you can help me w/ a quick fix?

[verbal wind]

grub2-win?

[rugged root]

Seems to be that

[toxic arch]

just 8 mb?

[rugged root]

If only

[toxic arch]

i use arch linux with cinnamon

why not just run it off a usb to play around it?

live boot

if you set up ventoy, you can just put isos

but ventoy installation wipes it

[rugged root]

Huh, I hadn't actually heard of ventoy

[toxic arch]

https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

it doesnt work with mixing efi and bios isos

you need to use ethier efi or bios

[rugged root]

Are those mutually exclusive?

[toxic arch]

because ventoy makes a boot partion with its gui,the isos needs to match that boot method, im not sure how it works really but you just cant mix efi and bios isos on the same usb

bye bye i gtg work on me project

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bVttt.gif

@lime fractal

[lime fractal]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-B550-GAMING-PLUS/support

[short owl]

saw a chick with 2 pet chickens , slept on her shoulder or chair , they dont do much

[rugged root]

Nope, not really

Like guinea pigs

[short owl]

havent looked at GODOT for long time , will look at server

[short owl]

has anyone ever updated a potentially damaged BIOs image with the special UBB port on some new motherboards ?

[rugged root]

I feel like I have

[short owl]

I was given a motherboard while back ( I suspect he static zapped it he wont tell ) BUT from what I remember , it had a special USB port to do BIOS updates via data stick bla bla , I will revisit it , also great to see the GODOT room link

I met a CISCO network engineer , he was building fences for a living ... theres the clue @steep vortex

[steep vortex]

oof

[lime fractal]

That good

[rugged root]

Good good

Yeah

[short owl]

Older secretaries know how to do all that awful paper work nightmares

most good plumbers are at 100K plus and more

tons of work

[upper basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvY9Uq7I30Y

Get chills boys.

[short owl]

did you ever build a small local network to do experiments on hands learning ( Linux , Windozze ) @steep vortex

you can inherit old equipment , routers ... switches and do linux , python network stuff .. lots to learn for security , especially IOT stuff @steep vortex

most city infrastructure is IOT , and needs security setups

talk to every one you know , they will know some one with a garage or closet with a box , full of old Linksys routers , laptops ... start aquiring like a squirrel and rebuild stuff @steep vortex

[steep vortex]

Alrighty!

[rugged root]

@fervent pine Yo

[upper basin]

Hemlock, have you seen Secret Level?

[fervent pine]

hellloo

[short owl]

have a big box of scrap ether cable , learn to fix them for your setup

[fervent pine]

i got no perm

[upper basin]

It's gonna be insane.

[rugged root]

Ah yeah, check the #voice-verification channel

That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate

[fervent pine]

oh okay

[rugged root]

Pressing the button should tell you what criteria you're missing if any

[fervent pine]

got it

[wind raptor]

You must pass the trial of the Hem-gate.

[fervent pine]

need to be active

[rugged root]

Hold on, let me get the combat bears ready...

[upper basin]

"I introduce to thou, 'tis the most vicious and voracious creature to ever wander this plain. I giveth thou...The Grizzled Grizzley!"

[short owl]

saw a hour of bear attack videos , teddy bears they are not @rugged root

[upper basin]

It's just a bear with a beard.

[rugged root]

Bear'd

[upper basin]

HAH

Bear'd watch out.

[short owl]

dont old lions get beards

some old doggys get beards even turn white

[upper basin]

If lions were human, would they just be dudes with massive neck beards?

Plome: "I shall not admit defeat, thus I have no regrets."

[upper basin]

.

[rugged root]

Hadn't heard of that

[short owl]

go to maker spaces - specialize in a area - Networks ? - and soon you will be busy learning , aquiring parts @steep vortex

raspis have ether , can run linux , use something like , PFsense , Opensense for network management @steep vortex

[rugged root]

There's some cool things I hadn't seen before

[upper basin]

Did you love it or did you love it?

The crossfire one is basically Call of Duty Modern Warfare and I'm all for it.

[rugged root]

Haven't looked into them further yet, but some names that came up:

• Cisco Packet Tracer
• GNS3 (Graphical Network Simulator-3)
• EVE-NG (Emulated Virtual Environment - Next Generation)
• Boson NetSim
• Mininet
• CORE (Common Open Research Emulator)

[short owl]

a shitbox car is safer than any motorbike

if you aquire the final stone for your gauntlet and become ADMIN @rugged root

Thanos snap - Hemlock snap

[amber raptor]

Alright ChatGPT

[rugged root]

Copilot, actually

[short owl]

heres how Elon Musk answered same question , find a problem out there , and solve it - you will learn tons @steep vortex

[rugged root]

It was closer at hand