voice-chat-text-0

[whole bear]

I sign up

register

login and it not work

[rugged root]

And you verified the email?

It should send you one

[whole bear]

I did check

[upper basin]

It is on GitLab?

[amber raptor]

It’s self hosted GitLab

[rugged root]

Just give it time

Back in a sec

[upper basin]

I see. I don't know what that means, apologies. Please ignore what I said then.

Greetings Alex!

Greetings Dad joke!

[peak depot]

DadJoke!!!

Good to see ya!!

Ace, Hemmy and me where talking about making characters in Mortal Combat style and hoping you would narrate the back story for them 😂

Mr.Hemmy 😁

[rugged root]

What'd I do?

Also back to no talking since my co-worker is back here again

[peak depot]

I would talk but there is no chance for it 😅

[rugged root]

@terse rose For context, this is just how Rabbit is. Don't let his... intense attitude get to you

He grows on you

[upper basin]

He's being oddly nice now though.

[whole bear]

hmmmm

suspicious

[upper basin]

No worries at all sir. Thank you very much for asking.

Ohh, I was about to file for divorce thinking you didn't love me anymore.

When you put da ring on da fingah.

inserts spongebob boney fingers closeup

[peak depot]

Freedom?

[upper basin]

"You my husband?"

[rugged root]

I don't know, what did Beyoncé?

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-ring-singe-ladies-put-a-ring-on-it-gif-5598751

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/future-husband-my-husband-he-my-husband-future-husband-material-gif-13364527

[stuck furnace]

I wasn't listening, but now I am lol

[upper basin]

Your profile picture fits your vibe now perfectly.

"What happened?"

[stuck furnace]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rugged root]

I'm kind of proud of that one

[stuck furnace]

The book was titled "How to Sleep"

Ah right

[upper basin]

Nielson and Chuang.

[whole bear]

LMFAO

[primal shadow]

Has to be the dumbest song ever. "If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it" I thought liking is like... early relationship time

[tacit raven]

!e
print("Hello world")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello world

[upbeat bobcat]

@verbal zenith

[vocal basin]

still working on Rust stuff; thinking of making the installation thingy more general

@verbal zenith have you used cargo binstall before?

https://github.com/cargo-bins/cargo-binstall

[verbal zenith]

// count duplicate chars case insensitive
fn count_duplicates(text: &str) -> u32 {
    text.to_string().to_ascii_lowercase().chars().fold((String::new(), 0u32), |(mut string, mut count), char| {
        if !char.is_whitespace() { return (string, count) };
        if string.contains(char) { count += 1 }
        string.push(char);
        (string, count)
    }).1
}

[vocal basin]

depends on input

how many different characters?

expected size of string

ascii only?

[bool;128]

to_ascii_lowercase allocates

(on char it doesn't)

u8::to_ascii_lowercase is a thing too

[vocal basin]

what is whitespace check for?

[verbal zenith]

dont count whitespace duplicates

wait

i forgot to reflip it, i inverted it earlier

// count duplicate chars case insensitive
fn count_duplicates(text: &str) -> u32 {
    text.to_string().to_ascii_lowercase().chars().fold((String::new(), 0u32), |(mut string, mut count), char| {
        if char.is_whitespace() { return (string, count) };
        if string.contains(char) { count += 1 }
        string.push(char);
        (string, count)
    }).1
}

[vocal basin]

are there ever any whitespace characters?

||```rs
use itertools::Itertools;

fn count_duplicates(text: &str) -> u32 {
text.chars().map(|c| c.to_ascii_lowercase()).duplicates().count().try_into().unwrap()
}

[verbal zenith]

now that's some python ass rust

[vocal basin]

https://www.codewars.com/kata/5e619f2d30e9d00028d690fb
https://www.codewars.com/kata/59f3f88c25d57513d600014f
https://www.codewars.com/kata/52a78825cdfc2cfc87000005

(C)

though third one can be solved in other languages, it's quite simple in C

[verbal zenith]

yeah I mean I'd like to see the easiest approach without just using like std methods for it

[vocal basin]

||```rs
fn count_duplicates(text: &str) -> u32 {
let mut counts = [0u8;128];
for c in text.bytes().map(|c| c.to_ascii_lowercase() as usize) {
counts[c] = counts[c].saturating_add(1);
}
counts.iter().filter(|c| **c > 1).count() as _
}

[verbal zenith]

that's another way I guess

||```rs
fn count_duplicates(text: &str) -> u32 {
text.to_string().chars().fold(([false; 128], 0u32), |(mut arr, mut count), char| {
if arr[char.to_ascii_lowercase() as usize] { count += 1; }
else { arr[char.to_ascii_lowercase() as usize] = true; }
(arr, count)
}).1
}

||

[vocal basin]

imo it's simpler without fold

[verbal zenith]

correct

[vocal basin]

also guaranteed not to copy the array around

[vocal basin]

time to copy code again

@verbal zenith you've used clap crate before, right?

TIL rust-analyzer knows how to infer derive argument names for it, at times

[eager tapir]

@vocal basin

[vocal basin]

what where

[eager tapir]

What languages are you working with?

[vocal basin]

at work (what I'm getting paid for): Rust, Python, C/C++, TypeScript/JavaScript, bash

[eager tapir]

What do you work that requires all that??

[vocal basin]

it's multiple projects, not just a singular one

Python for ML and HTTP APIs

C/C++ for native libraries

TypeScript/JavaScript for UIs

bash for build scripts

[eager tapir]

tf

[vocal basin]

Rust for infrastructure

[eager tapir]

could you give me an example of a native library you make with C/C++?

[vocal basin]

linking not making

[eager tapir]

for native devices?

[upper basin]

You mean like binding native C/C++ packages with python for instance?

[vocal basin]

low-lever/driver stuff needs to be in C/C++/Rust

a lot of existing libraries are in C/C++

[eager tapir]

How long have you been working with these languages?

[vocal basin]

Python: 7 years

C/C++: depends what counts as starting + a lot of gaps in use, so idk

at least 4 years

Rust: just under 2 years

TS/JS: 4 years

[eager tapir]

sounds awesome dude

when are you going to take up farming?

[vocal basin]

(and whatever else that other people in the company wrote)

[vocal basin]

which Java

(version)

then Java

because of new JVM

green threads

instead of async-await

I don't know that much about Java/C#

C# does have some ergonomic benefits still

[upbeat bobcat]

@upper basin Sorry, I was talking to someone else in call.

Its M-T-R not meter

[vocal basin]

C++ syntax is somewhat close to Rust

[upbeat bobcat]

Thats what it is

[vocal basin]

(Rust borrowed a lot from C++)

((pun not intended))

code that'd normally be occupied by C/C++ because of performance

but, to get better reliability, we use Rust

also infrastructure as in, like, infrastructure

general control of the system

[vocal basin]

e.g. no segmentation faults

safe Rust disallows invalid memory access

use-after-free, access to arbitrary memory (not earlier acquired through malloc or variable reference) including array bound violations, access to variables of function that has already returned, concurrent mutable access

how would C++ know

neither language has runtime information to check most of it

except for array bounds (both have a way to do a checked access given the length)

Python doesn't give tools that allow getting segfault easily but it does have threading race conditions

those race conditions occur only upstack thanks to GIL

global interpreter lock

[vocal basin]

there is also Go for that
(see Docker, for example)

but Go has GC

and is generally a bit more loose about correctness than Rust

garbage collector

!d gc

[wise cargo]

gc

This module provides an interface to the optional garbage collector. It provides the ability to disable the collector, tune the collection frequency, and set debugging options. It also provides access to unreachable objects that the collector found but cannot free. Since the collector supplements the reference counting already used in Python, you can disable the collector if you are sure your program does not create reference cycles. Automatic collection can be disabled by calling gc.disable(). To debug a leaking program call gc.set_debug(gc.DEBUG_LEAK). Notice that this includes gc.DEBUG_SAVEALL, causing garbage-collected objects to be saved in gc.garbage for inspection.

The gc module provides the following functions:

[vocal basin]

gc is responsible for freeing memory

in many languages it's a normal part of how the program operates

not for debug

information about gc does appear in debug profiles (to trace if memory is getting allocated/freed in weird patterns)

GC is there to find objects that don't follow a semilattice (tree-ish) ownership

[upbeat bobcat]

@vocal basin or @upper basin Can you help me with a calculator GUI? (I am using pyside6)

[vocal basin]

what is the current issue?

[upbeat bobcat]

Let me first send you the code

[upbeat bobcat]

This is the code: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZS2Q

[upbeat bobcat]

Fashoomp is helping

[upbeat bobcat]

@verbal zenith It is done without the css. How is it looking? If there are any improvements I can do tell me

yep I am on window so yk

In future but not now

can you say that again didn't hear you

Yep

how you can square a number?

any other way

found it

😅

[vocal basin]

AST sanitisation is an option

[upbeat bobcat]

What do you mean?

[vocal basin]

!d ast

[wise cargo]

ast

Source code: Lib/ast.py

The ast module helps Python applications to process trees of the Python abstract syntax grammar. The abstract syntax itself might change with each Python release; this module helps to find out programmatically what the current grammar looks like.

An abstract syntax tree can be generated by passing ast.PyCF_ONLY_AST as a flag to the compile() built-in function, or using the parse() helper provided in this module. The result will be a tree of objects whose classes all inherit from ast.AST. An abstract syntax tree can be compiled into a Python code object using the built-in compile() function.

[vocal basin]

if you're doing eval/exec currently

[upbeat bobcat]

Yes, I am doing eval.

[upbeat bobcat]

I should use this?

[vocal basin]

depends on whether you're directly taking input from the user

[upbeat bobcat]

wdym by directly?

[vocal basin]

eval(input())-like code

where input() might be from, for example, a text field in the UI

[upbeat bobcat]

let me show you my code

[vocal basin]

@scarlet dust have you used pyo3 before?
(I just saw some mixed Python/Rust projects you have, so it could be useful)

[upbeat bobcat]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NGUQ

[vocal basin]

seems fine (you only put hardcoded values into self.expression)

[upbeat bobcat]

It is good to hardcode?

[vocal basin]

in this case it guarantees you control what gets evald

[upbeat bobcat]

hmm but not always?

[upper basin]

A but of an unrelated question, what is lowerCamelCase convention in Java exactly, and how mainstream is it?

Like I usually write in snake case I think (i.e., hourly_pay) as opposed to hourlyPay. Which is the convention in Java?

[scarlet dust]

https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/codeconventions-namingconventions.html

[vocal basin]

camelCase
PascalCase

[frozen owl]

hey @upper basin

[urban abyss]

Is there any good solution for versioning packages for specific versions of Ubuntu? I want Ubuntu Focal and Ubuntu Jammy machines to be able to pull in packages specific to their platform version via pip install.

[vocal basin]

@upper basin does Java have digit separators?

!e

print(1_000_000)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1000000

[vocal basin]

or ' in C, I think

C23

[upbeat bobcat]

@scarlet dust

[vocal basin]

maybe swap % and AC?

or is it a different %?

not operator?

AC not on the edges feels a bit wrong

[upbeat bobcat]

yeah

done

Why is it saying this?

[gentle flint]

because my-version-app has already been merged into your current branch

[rugged root]

https://trimps.github.io/

[gentle flint]

or at least you've added no new commits to your current branch since the my-version-app branch diverged or was last merged

[rugged root]

use rand::Rng;
use std::cmp::Ordering;
use std::io;

fn main() {
    println!("Guess the number!");

    let secret_number = rand::thread_rng().gen_range(1..=100);

    loop {
        println!("Please input your guess.");

        let mut guess = String::new();

        io::stdin()
            .read_line(&mut guess)
            .expect("Failed to read line");

        let guess: u32 = match guess.trim().parse() {
            Ok(num) => num,
            Err(_) => continue,
        };

        println!("You guessed: {guess}");

        match guess.cmp(&secret_number) {
            Ordering::Less => println!("Too small!"),
            Ordering::Greater => println!("Too big!"),
            Ordering::Equal => {
                println!("You win!");
                break;
            }
        }
    }
}

[upbeat bobcat]

It is not merged and it has changes

[limber copper]

def myFunc(number: float, number2: float) -> float:
  result = number + number2
  return result

myVar: float = 4.0

[rugged root]

Defenestration

!stream 425552190283972608

[wise cargo]

✅ @peak depot can now stream until <t:1723821755:f>.

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/awww-animals-cuteness-quokka-gif-17999442

[rugged root]

https://discuss.python.org/t/three-month-suspension-for-a-core-developer/60250

[frozen owl]

asmr???

[peak depot]

?

[frozen owl]

lol i was referring to those "youtube eating videos"

i dont generally like "instant noodles" but the soup is addicting as fuck

unrelated note: am i the only one who gets repeatedly downloaded "vscode server" over and over again when i login to ssh client on vscode

[peak depot]

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/jul/21/im-so-sorry-ive-got-cancer-why-do-two-of-every-five-australian-men-die-early-from-preventable-conditions

https://youtube.com/shorts/w0CQnnc7oZk?si=7jtv0sm139h_oD_F

[frozen owl]

were you on holiday?

[amber raptor]

This is normal behavior

[upper basin]

Hemlock can I delete these?

Are all of these installers?

What about this one?

This is my punishment for not moving stuff to proper places.

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/vodka-stolichnaya-vodka-time-wodka-russian-vodka-gif-22958058

[short owl]

ohhh hello

[upper basin]

On the edge.

[willow light]

Hi, in a cafe

This time in Maine

Nothing screams August quite like the start of pumpkin spice season being pushed back yet another month.

[spare galleon]

@rugged root hola

@somber heath hola

how to talketh

@upper basin plz make the red pings go away in your discod

[frozen owl]

thou shalt pass the test of verification

[upper basin]

Red pings in my discord?

[spare galleon]

ohh lordey i here through ace stream

[frozen owl]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[spare galleon]

i hear twice, quite annoying

how to mute strea

yup

i muted it now

no my stuff is never solved

i am the man of 1 million unsolved things

how to unmake nakamas existence

[gilded rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDEqgmGIVg

[spare galleon]

i dont know english ,plz translate

to hebrew

[humble spoke]

html?

[spare galleon]

HTMX?

[gilded rivet]

אני האיש של צער תמידי

[spare galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-laughing-hysterically-gif-26398146

[gilded rivet]

https://media.tenor.com/JtcrjLnDaUEAAAAM/o-brother-where-art-thou-dancing.gif

[snow spoke]

yo i want to build some project if some one want to join pls dm me

[spare galleon]

open up vs studio, click the build button, tudah

sinthril; do u make stuff go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[gilded rivet]

I make robots spin

[spare galleon]

what about andriods?

[gilded rivet]

My robots are non-gendered

[spare galleon]

what does that mean

[gilded rivet]

The word "android" comes from the Greek "andro" (man) and "eides" (shape), and only male-like humanoid robots were considered when the term was coined

In fact, robots with a feminine appearance are called "ginoides"; "gino" being "woman" in Greek.

[spare galleon]

but do u make them spin

[gilded rivet]

Yeah

They spinnin'

[spare galleon]

can you teach me the way

[gilded rivet]

These are my arms

That I make spin

[spare galleon]

so you are robot?

[gilded rivet]

I am doctor octopus

[spare galleon]

not docotr hexogan

why windows go brrrrr

[spare galleon]

Nakama

https://heroiclabs.com/nakama/

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cachorro-sorrindo-dog-smiling-gif-27642513

cool song

shame this game shutdown

https://tenor.com/view/echo-vr-echo-arena-stick-mrstick-mrstick62-gif-27538372

opal this me and you, im the guy in blue

https://tenor.com/view/cat-w-gif-20951900

https://tenor.com/view/puppysena-senapuppy-fluffy-puppy-jaehyunsena-gif-22032476

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-nurse-cute-adorable-gif-3681419558227622807

[frozen owl]

today's vibe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2qoihbzc3E

[spare galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/aha-ha-ha-ha-stayin-alive-robin-gibb-barry-gibb-maurice-gibb-bee-gees-gif-19538967

@gilded rivet bye bye

[gilded rivet]

bai

[whole bear]

@cedar briar Hey Nick!

I was trying to reach you out man it's been a long time

If you find this message accept my friendship request

[upbeat bobcat]

@quartz beacon Hello!

[summer girder]

hiiii

[spare galleon]

yoooo not me outhere making a 3d game in pygame

[willow gate]

hi

@whole bear hello

[whole bear]

Hello there

How are you?

[willow gate]

Good!! and you?

[whole bear]

same

[stuck furnace]

Be a scammer? 😄

Cya

I gotta go

[primal shadow]

Shanghai Knights / Noon
The Starsky & Hutch Remake
Rush Hour 2 / 3

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-sad-emotion-mood-zoom-in-gif-17844882

[primal shadow]

The Running Man

[whole bear]

the running man

https://tenor.com/view/funny-vsauce-or-is-it-gif-25517943

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-nuclear-codes-united-states-michael-stevens-gif-15678363167786194952

[primal shadow]

https://rust.facepunch.com/

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/connect-the-wires-yeti-yetiapocalypse-rewire-reconnect-gif-20607043

https://tenor.com/view/polish-cow-cow-dancing-dance-dancing-cow-gif-19109155

[summer girder]

https://tenor.com/view/coolcat-cat-fist-bump-cool-cat-fist-gif-24432788

[primal shadow]

@urban pumice

[urban pumice]

Sup!

I'll talk here instead

Let's talk.

Makes sense!

That's a lot

Does this channel give me creds?

Good stuff!

I prefer 90s

But there are some good 80s ones

Action for sure for sure

Rush Hour!

Late 90s I think

But I don't watch a huge amount of movies tbh

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/rush-hour-comedy-jackie-chan-chris-tucker-do-you-understand-the-words-that-are-coming-out-of-my-mouth-gif-3393123

https://tenor.com/view/yu-is-blind-sensei-master-gif-12379015

[urban pumice]

Nostalgia

Good stuff

https://tenor.com/view/blackanese-rush-hour-gif-20031211

What did he do

Wtf

Why would he rob Walmart

If he could code

So easy to make money from coding

Super mega easy

If you're decent

Hope that I will be able to verify voice soon

So that I don't have to spam here

[primal shadow]

I can type if you'd prefer

to not feel as if you are talking to yourself

[ebon mist]

how to add a package manager if one is not present in my linux system i don't have apt or dpkg???

[quick cloak]

do you have curl or wget pre-installed?

[ebon mist]

idk

[quick cloak]

check that first

[ebon mist]

how??

I don't know use those

[quick cloak]

curl --version

or

wget --version

[ebon mist]

curl 8.6.0 (x86_64-cros-linux-gnu) libcurl/8.6.0 OpenSSL/3.2.1 zlib/1.2.13 c-ares/1.19.1 libpsl/0.21.1 nghttp2/1.57.0
Release-Date: 2024-01-31
Protocols: dict file http https ipfs ipns mqtt
Features: alt-svc AsynchDNS GSS-API HSTS HTTP2 HTTPS-proxy IPv6 Kerberos Largefile libz NTLM PSL SPNEGO SSL threadsafe TLS-SRP UnixSockets

[quick cloak]

great news, you have a way of installing packages. You can now install things via curl

[ebon mist]

wget is not thare

ok?? how do I add apt??

[quick cloak]

why do you need apt

im saying you can install things via curl

[ebon mist]

k?

thanks

brb

[hallow warren]

https://www.accenthelp.com/blogs/accenthelpblog/british-isles-accent-map

[whole bear]

@primal shadow @hallow warren

[wintry osprey]

dia duit

[primal shadow]

#rules

[wintry osprey]

btfo

Scots linked to the Scythians and the Amazonians

Irish Hero Cu Chulainn trained by Scathach, a warrior lady in Scotland

Scythians were on that snake venom stuff

double-U double-U double-U dot

[hallow warren]

https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collogue:Main_Page#(Scotched_En)_State_of_Scots_machine_translation

[quartz beacon]

😳

@primal shadow 01100111 01101111 01110100 01100011 01101000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01101001 01110100 01100011 01101000

[wintry osprey]

bloated insults

king of politeness now lul

[urban pumice]

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[quartz beacon]

😒

this is not autism. both me and bear are autistic

[urban pumice]

same! but there's a spectrum

[quartz beacon]

yes, but this is not it

[whole bear]

Im very autisic

[wintry osprey]

I watched Iphigenia the other day, it was really good. Greek war stuff

[whole bear]

My grandmother has asbergers

https://tenor.com/view/fiddle-timber-gif-26006637

[spare galleon]

yall wanna help me with my 3d pygame program

[upbeat bobcat]

@upper basin You said something to me?

[upper basin]

No sorry hehe.

[upbeat bobcat]

NP sir

[upbeat bobcat]

I want to show to you something related to mathematics.

[upbeat bobcat]

@peak axle

[upbeat bobcat]

What you want to do write here so if anyone know they can help

[abstract urchin]

Does somebody have some nice beginner friendly python projects to recommend

[upbeat bobcat]

!kindling

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[obsidian dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/@FREAKBAiT

[ebon mist]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BDUQ

[upbeat bobcat]

@ebon mist What you made?

[willow gate]

@still herald hey

yes

@upbeat bobcat hi

[upbeat bobcat]

Hey!

[pulsar shale]

Hello

[upbeat bobcat]

How are you doing?

[upbeat bobcat]

hi!

[willow gate]

how's your project going on

[upbeat bobcat]

Great!

[willow gate]

good!! and you

[upbeat bobcat]

.

[pulsar shale]

What's up

[upbeat bobcat]

All good! hbu?

[willow gate]

it will be open source?

[pulsar shale]

Bad Can't find a job

[upbeat bobcat]

idk

[willow gate]

ok

[pulsar shale]

😬

[willow gate]

on what stack you are working on?

[pulsar shale]

Test

[upbeat bobcat]

Test?

[pulsar shale]

Software test

[turbid hearth]

Hey guys wht upp

[peak axle]

can someone help me find the intersection between R(M) and C(M)?

[upper basin]

Hellov

Hehe

Am I?

My bad.

[lyric fable]

flamish giant?

[upbeat bobcat]

@wind raptor hi! Good how about you?

[vocal basin]

I've finally integrated git retagging stuff I was making into CI

in the least optimal way

for now, as an experiment, the code and builds are not publicly accessible
(I will open-source the thing later, but for now I'm learning how to do auth stuff properly)

so I also developed a thing that's responsible for downloading the latest version of the tool

pulling creds from either env or git

[upbeat bobcat]

GN guys

[wind raptor]

Have a good night!

[vocal basin]

• zigbuild everywhere

as a linker

cargo-zigbuild is the simplest way to cross-compile

I need to do it both for no-glibc and older glibc

gnu lib c

[willow gate]

@wind raptor hey

[vocal basin]

had to specify user/email for commits, so it's ci and ci@ci

[willow gate]

did you decide any project for submitting in college?

[vocal basin]

"you can send you complains to ci@ci, they surely will respond"

it's committing from inside CI

[willow gate]

@wind raptor great

[vocal basin]

so there isn't really a reason to use my name/email there

and it's only for tags

[willow gate]

are they open source?

[vocal basin]

(not actual commits)

[willow gate]

ok

your github acc?

Mine final year project I have to work on it

[vocal basin]

now that tagging has been dealt with, it's time to get back to automating subtrees manipulation

[willow gate]

@wind raptor what kind of stack are you learning now?

which?

i didn't hear properly

[vocal basin]

bun elysia turso htmx?

the SaaS part of Turso or libsql server?

[elder shard]

@wind raptor

i cant unmute

idk why

[wind raptor]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[elder shard]

!voice

I have to send 50 messages

erm

ill just text here

hello

how are you

im alright

what you doin

oh nice i have like 10000 quewstions

I'm learning Information tech

It will start in one week

I dont know if its gonna be hard

I'll have to see

How different?

Is there something you do that IT doesnt?

[vocal basin]

in NA, IT is more about maintenance, afaik

[elder shard]

I'm in germany

so idk

I'm not in uni...

[vocal basin]

IT service specifically instead of Information Technology work in general

[elder shard]

I'm in a professional school

[willow gate]

yep most of it and cs syllabus is same

[elder shard]

In germnay its totally different

thats the thing

I finished 10th grade

now I'm in 11th grade

but with IT i'll get my certifcate

But I'll have to go to uni for bachlors

[willow gate]

are you from india?

[elder shard]

no

I've been raised in germany

But I'm afghan/tajik

I thought computer will be in the future

so i just chose IT and computer related stuff

[vocal basin]

I've been to a specialised school too, but I didn't get any certificate from that
(only actual useful knowledge)

idk if I'll ever get back to continuing education

[willow gate]

from which grade did you drop

[elder shard]

where you from?

[vocal basin]

I completed the first semester of the university

[elder shard]

It depends if youre from germany or wherever

cause

[vocal basin]

Russia

[elder shard]

education in germany is totally different

and russia is totally different i think

[vocal basin]

and Russia indeed has strict restrictions against post-school certification

[elder shard]

But i like russia

[vocal basin]

universities are required to only take state exams into account

[elder shard]

cause my country is slavic too

I'm half chechen-tajik

i know how russia works

But germany you can study till 10th grade

[vocal basin]

except for two

[willow gate]

you can try for online degree

[elder shard]

after that you can go to a professional school from 10th grade or continue normal school

and do 11th and 12th

or do 13th for something else

[vocal basin]

I switched to specialised school after 7 years of regular one

[elder shard]

thats hard

isnt it

[elder shard]

oh thats why

[vocal basin]

and there, 4 years of maths/programming education

[elder shard]

damnnn

thats too much isnt it

[vocal basin]

bachelor's would be another 4

and then 2

and then another 3

[vocal basin]

(Python main language there)

and in university I was lucky enough to get C taught

instead of Pascal

AES mentioned

[wintry osprey]

Begin
crying()
End.

[elder shard]

AttributeError: module 'pyaes' has no attribute 'AESModeOfOperationGCM'. Did you mean: 'AESModeOfOperationECB'?

[elder shard]

Running PyInstaller as admin is not necessary nor sensible. Run PyInstaller from a non-administrator terminal. PyInstaller 7.0 will block this.

[vocal basin]

pyaes only supports CBC CFB CTR ECB OFB

consider using pycryptodome

[uncut lynx]

How yall doing today?

[elder shard]

pip install pyinstaller

[wind raptor]

Good! How about you?

[elder shard]

pip install --upgrade cryptography

[vocal basin]

are you using a venv?

[uncut lynx]

Good, I’m in the vc, I’ll unmute in a bit

[vocal basin]

you should be using a venv, especially when dealing with pyinstaller

[elder shard]

<string>:350: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:351: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:355: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:362: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:363: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:367: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:417: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:1308: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '-'

[vocal basin]

!e

print("\S")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
002 |   print("\S")
003 | \S

[vocal basin]

!e

print("\s")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\s'
002 |   print("\s")
003 | \s

[uncut lynx]

python -m venv .venv

!e print("\s")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

\s

[vocal basin]

VSC and PyCharm have support for venv

(IDEs)

hmm

[uncut lynx]

@elder shard tried this?

Cmd prompt

[vocal basin]

not admin

[uncut lynx]

Non admin

[willow gate]

cmd

[vocal basin]

what terminal are you using?

cmd.exe? powershell? bash?

activation depends on the terminal

[uncut lynx]

What python are you using?

From where?

Is there any output when you run venv in powershell?

[vocal basin]

I need to go; might be back later

[uncut lynx]

Try running venv venv then ls -al

Powershell

As non admin

Yeah, no .

[wind raptor]

Have a great one!

[elder shard]

venv: error: unrecognized arguments: -al

[uncut lynx]

So run python -m venv venv

Then ls -al

@wind raptor venv is still bundled with 3.12 yeah?

Or is it separate now?

I’ve been using pyenv for quite a while now

Do you have git installed?

Windows has no bash, it’s a unix/posix thing

If you have git, then you’ll have git bash

[elder shard]

324 INFO: PyInstaller: 6.10.0, contrib hooks: 2024.8
325 INFO: Python: 3.12.5
367 INFO: Platform: Windows-11
367 INFO: Python environment: C:\Users\loxr4\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312
Script file 'loader-o.py' does not exist.

[uncut lynx]

I personally deal with this kind of thing by not using windows

I’m not going to hate on windows, but I refuse to use it for programming

Macos/linux

Uh, wsl2 works nice too

@wind raptor thoughts on windows programming?

[elder shard]

Syntax Warnings

Use raw string literals for regular expressions

pattern = r"\S+"

Or escape backslashes in regular strings

pattern = "\S+"

<string>:350: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:351: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:355: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:362: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:363: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:367: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:417: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\S'
<string>:1308: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '-'

[uncut lynx]

r'\S' instead '\S'

[elder shard]

AttributeError: module 'pyaes' has no attribute 'AESModeOfOperationGCM'. Did you mean: 'AESModeOfOperationECB'?

[vocal basin]

subtrees have been dealt with too

just a few scripts on top of git

some in bash, some in Rust, some in Go

subtree management isn't really something to do by hand
(just because of how verbose the commands are)

git remote add --fetch --no-tags $remote $url
git merge -s ours --no-commit --allow-unrelated-histories $remote/$branch
git read-tree --prefix $path $remote/$branch

this adds a subtree

and I still don't remember the entirety of it

tracking remote relative to a subpath

instead of root of the repository

[vocal basin]

so I added a thing to

1. generate $remote based on $path
2. automatically fill in $branch
3. run the whole sequence of commands, skipping ones that aren't necessary

not a submodule

submodules are different

submodules keep tracking information in .gitmodules

yeah, a link is a submodule

example
https://github.com/jean-airoldie/zeromq-src-rs

there vendor is a submodule

subtree brings everything over, yes

so that if submodule remote is offline, it still works

you can pull as usual

git pull -s subtree --no-commit $remote $branch

same usecase as with submodules

dependency

what subtree gives is that there all the code gets brought over

[vocal basin]

this

[vocal basin]

(tool I made does this too)

also has an option to list all subtrees

since it keeps them all segregated in a separate directory

it will be public at some point

imo there's not much value in it yet

[vocal basin]

I might rework this

main part is in Rust

actions are in Go and bash

[vocal basin]

this part is private (for now)

[vocal basin]

this part is public

it's better to teach people how to use this instead

like the raw commands

because automated, in CI or wherever, they're quite powerful

[vocal basin]

I've just reworked a bit how this is implemented

so now there's 2 dependencies less

-walkdir
-pathdiff

and the other part of the tool (not subtrees) is responsible for making git tags for all Rust crates in the current workspace

just subprojects

[workspace]
members = ["some-subproject"]

https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/main/Cargo.toml#L1-L7

[wise cargo]

Cargo.toml lines 1 to 7

[workspace]
members = [
    "internal/ruchei-sample",
    "ruchei-callback",
    "ruchei-extra",
    "ruchei-route",
]```

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/tags

[vocal basin]

it also retags A.B and A versions when new A.B.C is made

A is retagged only if it's at least 1
A.B is retagged only if at least one of A or B is at least 1

versions are pulled from Cargo.toml, yes

I am planning on also supporting pyproject.toml and package.json

I don't remember if go has package versions yet

it used not to have them at some point I think

and by default still doesn't

git ref

commit, tag, branch

the idea there is to just use git tags, if I understand correctly

do it manually instead of pulling from a files

[wind raptor]

https://go.dev/doc/modules/gomod-ref

[vocal basin]

go.mod doesn't require specifying a version

I don't really know how go does packaging

I've read through most of the Zig language reference

not yet

I need to know Zig's build system

since I'm working with C/C++/Rust

and Zig is becoming more and more useful for compiling those

also for Python

afaik Zig can even be used to make static binary of CPython

no dependency on libc, ssl and others

[vocal basin]

(Python interpreter)

I also made a tool that downloads and installs latest versions of whatever I've built and published to my Forgejo instance

not really a package manager (since all those are static binaries without dependencies) but still quite useful

also that implies uninstalling means just rm'ing the binary

(it allows specifying where to install)

<--to-cargo-home|--to-home-local-bin|--to-self|--to-bin> <PACKAGES>...

$CARGO_HOME/bin or (if not defined) ~/.cargo/bin
~/.local/bin
wherever the thing itself is installed
/bin

it installs to the first that's specified, exists and is present in $PATH

also it can do --to-self self replacing itself

updating to the latest semver-compatible

so it can't break by going from 1.0 to 2.0

or from 0.1 to 0.2

[mortal mountain]

im trying to make an sdr

and rtlsdr will not work

File "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312\Lib\site-packages\rtlsdr\librtlsdr.py", line 57, in load_librtlsdr
raise ImportError('Error loading librtlsdr. Make sure librtlsdr '
ImportError: Error loading librtlsdr. Make sure librtlsdr (and all of its dependencies) are in your path
PS C:\Users\Owner>

i dont understand

[vocal basin]

have you installed what the error message tells to install?

[mortal mountain]

i havertlsdr installed

[vocal basin]

you installed a pip package, right?

[mortal mountain]

no

[onyx linden]

@vocal basin can u help wityh something pls

[mortal mountain]

pip install librtlsdr.py ?

[onyx linden]

look whats going on with my python

[vocal basin]

(the C library)

[mortal mountain]

im not familiar with python how do i do that?

[onyx linden]

@vocal basin look mam

[vocal basin]

what are you trying to do?

[onyx linden]

make a python into a exe file

[vocal basin]

why?

[onyx linden]

but python would not open for me

[onyx linden]

i need for a thing a coded but now is not working

and i need to sell that the thing i did but i can only sell it as a exe file

[vocal basin]

why would there ever be such a requirement

[onyx linden]

because i need gen keys for it

can u just please help mam

[vocal basin]

!rule 5

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[onyx linden]

is not illegal

[mortal mountain]

@vocal basin can you give me the pip install for

the sdr

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/librtlsdr/librtlsdr/releases

[mortal mountain]

@vocal basin what do i do

[vocal basin]

you need rtlsdr-bin-w64_static.zip, if you're on Windows

[mortal mountain]

oh ok

now how do i run it

@vocal basin

[vocal basin]

dll needs to somewhere where the program can see it

for example, in the same directory you run it from

[mortal mountain]

where do i put it

how do i do that ;-;

[onyx linden]

@vocal basin can u help

[mortal mountain]

he just said no

[mortal mountain]

.

[onyx linden]

shes slow

holy

its cause she dont know

[vocal basin]

how are you running your python program?

[mortal mountain]

vscode

@vocal basin

[vocal basin]

put the dll file next to radio.py

[mortal mountain]

where

[vocal basin]

in the same directory

[vocal basin]

yes

does it still show the error?

[mortal mountain]

yes

File "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python312\Lib\site-packages\rtlsdr\librtlsdr.py", line 57, in load_librtlsdr
raise ImportError('Error loading librtlsdr. Make sure librtlsdr '
ImportError: Error loading librtlsdr. Make sure librtlsdr (and all of its dependencies) are in your path

[vocal basin]

I might be able to look further into this tomorrow;
for now, I need to go; so I suggest asking in #1035199133436354600

[mortal mountain]

aw 😦

[ebon valve]

hello

[vocal basin]

wheee

[vocal basin]

commit insanity

@peak depot where

I don't remember

[upper basin]

How many people are working on that repo?

[quartz beacon]

she forgor 💀

[vocal basin]

1

I'm automatically merging histories from multiple registries repositories

which causes this

[upper basin]

Ohh

Wait, what's a registery?

Same as a branch?

Oh thank ye!

How do you merge multiple repositories? Are they forks of one parent repo?

[vocal basin]

--allow-unrelated-histories

[upper basin]

So, you would have two completely unrelated repos, and you would merge them together?

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

merged to a subdirectory

as a subtree

[upper basin]

A--B--C   <-- master (HEAD)

J--K--L   <-- theirs

Like so?

[vocal basin]

-s subtree
https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/git-subtree
https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/using-git/about-git-subtree-merges

git subtree
https://manpages.debian.org/testing/git-man/git-subtree.1.en.html

[upper basin]

When is this useful AF? It says that if you have same name files but different content, it'll cause conflicts.

[vocal basin]

I use first one, not the git-contrib's git-subtree command

[vocal basin]

there is no same file with same name
subtree is merged into a separate subdirectory

which before merge doesn't exist

this is an alternative to submodules

[upper basin]

I'm reading from here.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54836572/how-exactly-does-git-pull-allow-unrelated-histories-work

[vocal basin]

don't git pull --allow-unrelated-histories

(neither do git push with it)

[upper basin]

So, you have a repo A, and a repo B. These two don't have any common ancestors.

You don't pull nor push with it?

I'll read the subtree you sent. Apologies if the questions are already answered there.

[vocal basin]

subtree mostly is just about tracking remotes

[vocal basin]

making pulling a remote to apply diffs to a subdirectory instead of root

[obsidian dragon]

Made in Abyss

[upper basin]

AF, is examples here a subtree repo?
https://github.com/NVIDIA/cuda-quantum

[vocal basin]

no, it's a submodule

hmm

oh wait

no

idk what it is

seems like it's a symlink

[upper basin]

In the link you sent, it says that you use subtree to contain one repo inside another.

I thought that was an example of this.

[vocal basin]

yeah, in this case it doesn't contain

[upper basin]

Just contain a link to it?

[vocal basin]

yes

and here not ever a repo

[upper basin]

I see.

[vocal basin]

submodule:
#voice-chat-text-0 message

[upper basin]

vendor being the submodule?

[vocal basin]

yes

[upper basin]

I see.

So, instead of making commits separately to each repo, you would instead make one big commit that updates both?

[vocal basin]

submodules keep tracking fully separate

https://github.com/jean-airoldie/zeromq-src-rs/blob/master/.gitmodules

so there's just a file with links

which are traversed with git clone --recurse-submodules and git submodule

[upper basin]

I see.

"The test project will use that subproject as if it were part of the same repository."
https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/using-git/about-git-subtree-merges

[vocal basin]

oh wait it's not submodule

yeah, for subtrees that's the exact goal

no tracking checked in
no external dependency

(i.e. no links)

[upper basin]

Ohh, I confused them didn't I? I'll check submodule now.

On a different note, is this normal?

It's running below base speed for some reason. Usually it's running 2.7 or 3.0.

[obsidian dragon]

no

[upper basin]

Not sure why it's doing this.

[vocal basin]

I've seen that issue on someone else's computer
idk how to fix

what's the temperature?

[upper basin]

Low, as if nothing is running.

[vocal basin]

is any core running at 100%?

[upper basin]

I think 70-ish.

[vocal basin]

if no => then normal

[vocal basin]

you with your 9 days without reboot, totally safe for windows, not missing any security updates

[vocal basin]

if hmm

speed might be averaging

[obsidian dragon]

by linus has been up for 42 days with no interaction

[vocal basin]

• if I'm understanding correctly it's mixed cores, right?

[upper basin]

It's new. I didn't have this before.

[vocal basin]

like not all are same

[upper basin]

I'm not sure?

[obsidian dragon]

seems fine

[vocal basin]

14 cores 20 logical

some performance cores, some not

might be scheduling issue

[vocal basin]

(I have worse)

[upper basin]

Yeah, I believe so.

[vocal basin]

I think on linux I got to just above 100

at some point

[upper basin]

What's wrong with it? It's just my CPU stat.

[vocal basin]

it's even connected to IPS as not to shutdown when power goes out

[upper basin]

Nice HEHEHE

[vocal basin]

this one seems fine

[upper basin]

The simulation must go on.

[vocal basin]

so basically 70% number is just misleading

[upper basin]

But it's below base speed?

[prime frost]

Hello

[upper basin]

So freaking odd.

It dips and becomes fast?

[vocal basin]

because it stops measuring frequency for weaker cores, I'd assume

weaker cores have hyper-threading enabled there wrong, the other way around

therefore for each weak core you have 2 threads contributing to the number wrong

[upper basin]

So, if 6 out of 14 are efficiency (weak) cores, then they total to 12 threads overall?

And the rest are from performance cores?

[vocal basin]

8 performance cores, yes wrong; 6

efficiency ones are optimised for power and concurrency
performance ones are optimised for compute and parallelism

[upper basin]

!e

total_threads = 6495
num_p_cores = 8
num_e_cores = 6
threads_per_e_core = 2

threads_per_p_core = (total_threads - threads_per_e_core * num_e_cores)/num_p_cores
print(threads_per_p_core)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

810.375

[upper basin]

That's a really massive difference if I did it properly.

[vocal basin]

it's so complicated actually that I'd rather not put any specific number on it

[upper basin]

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules

So, if you have two repos (packages) and want to use one package inside the other as a dependency you would add the dependency one as a submodule?

Is this useful when you don't have a pypi for the dependency repo and want to import it without sys.path.append?

[vocal basin]

if you can make sure the dependency is available during checkout, then yes

which often isn't the case

example: corporate git host accessible both on local and VPN IPs

[upper basin]

Isn't the definition they're giving in the website the same as a dependency?

[vocal basin]

that one is fixable by specifying submodules relatively

but

some tools don't understand that

GitKraken specifically

@upper basin clone, submodule update, whatever requires pulling code from the dependency

[upper basin]

I see.

[vocal basin]

when dependency is inaccessible (e.g. deleted), submodules break

[upper basin]

Naturally no?

Can't refer to a submodule that doesn't exist.

[vocal basin]

that's where subtrees fix the situation

they bring the whole history over

[upper basin]

Ohhh

As in they recreate the missing submodule from the history?

[vocal basin]

(you just change what directory the history is applied to)

((instead of ./))

[vocal basin]

yes, just like non-submodules

[upper basin]

That is very impressive.

[vocal basin]

(git clone builds source from history)

at least normally

[vocal basin]

not enitrely but close to it

from a truncated, optimised, history

[upper basin]

To be honest, I think this is a perfect tool to try out for my two packages. QICKIT is the one I want to have as the submodule for QMPRS.

[upper basin]

Didn't know it optimizes the history.

[vocal basin]

I have a tool for managing subtrees but it's not open-source yet (because it's quite bad and inconsistent at the time, and I'd rather figure it out myself than accept external contributions)

it will be open-source when it's functionally correct enough

but likely not open-contribution

[upper basin]

So, just to check my understanding, we make two repositories. We want to use one within the other, so we add it as a submodule to the other repository. Let's name them A for the main repo, and B for the submodule.

You would be able to use B within A whilst being able to make updates to them separately (which I feel is different from subtree in that sense?). Now, besides the evident use of it for using B like a dependency without needing to install it like a pypi, you can also add safety for when B is deleted as A would then be able to recreate B from B's history.

[vocal basin]

you can still update subtrees separately

for both subtrees and submodules, you need to commit to A when B changes to make A use a newer B

[upper basin]

So, what is the main distinguishing difference?

[vocal basin]

submodules are implemented through a link, subtrees are implemented through copying everything over

[upper basin]

Ohh. So with submodules, we only copy the history, whereas with subtrees we copy the src as well?

[vocal basin]

no

with submodules, we don't copy anything

[upper basin]

So, how do we keep the history if the submodule is deleted?

[vocal basin]

with subtrees, we copy the history and when we build src for A we also get src for B

[vocal basin]

keep a mirror

[upper basin]

Love you so much HEHEHE.

So with submodule we keep a mirror of the original repo?

And with subtree we clone it over?

[vocal basin]

if you want to protect yourself against deletion

and generally a good practice, especially if you're working in a corporate environment

[upper basin]

Ooh so unrelated to submodule?

[vocal basin]

depending on doing git clone https://github.com/<owner>/<repo> has same implications as depending on https://github.com/<owner>/<repo> as a submodule

[upper basin]

Hmm

[upper basin]

I guess I confused them internally again hehe. You even explicitly said subtrees.

I think I'm clear now.

What happens if you don't have a subtree and only have a submodule?

As in if the original repo is deleted.

Are they disjoint by the way? Can you keep a subtree as well as a submodule of the same repo inside the another same repo?

If not, what factor should tell you to use a submodule vs a subtree?

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/parrrate/showcase-missing-dependency

also funny last commit

signing was the hardest part

[vocal basin]

@upper basin this is what happens when submodule is non-public/deleted

[vocal basin]

both submodules and subtrees can be nested

for subtrees it makes a bit less sense

in case of subtrees it's easier not to track inner subtrees

[upper basin]

Since subtrees contain everything?

[vocal basin]

yes

[vocal basin]

I can't click on the commit name

because there is no name

[upper basin]

Hehe

[upper basin]

Imagine working at like a big tech company, and making a massive commit, and just saying "Added some code and shit."

No title.

[vocal basin]

#voice-chat-text-0 message

[upper basin]

There was a meme about this, the guy just wrote "IDK" in the commit hehe.

Love it.

Once my package is done, I'm definitely gonna add a konami cheat code easter egg.

"You have unlocked the power to edit the universe."

Runs code, universe just crashes.

Could just see the Rick n Morty episode of this.

"Re-re-Revert commit Morty! You Crowdstriked the universe Morty! Goddamit Morty, you fucking Crowdstriked the universe."

"Aww jeez Rick, ohh fuck! Ho-How can I revert the commit? It says pushed Rick!"

"That's what revert means you little-"

I'm sorry, hehehe. Having too much fun.

[gray eagle]

Hello

I need help on https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1274734536021901454

[upper basin]

Others have answered it already, no?

I would say if you don't know the programming languages that are primarily or conventionally used for each, start with those. Then, to flesh it out, do projects in them. This will build your understanding.

Also, I would choose one for the time being. Jack of all trades as a goal usually ends up being master of none when pursued like the way you're going at it now.

Do them one by one. Actually do projects, and the time to build them up into a skill. Once you are adequately familiar and know the base competencies for doing a junior level role in that domain, then move to the other topic.

[primal shadow]

Start with fundameltals

Gotta learn control flow, data structures, etc. for any of em

[upper basin]

What programming languages are you proficient with?

[upbeat bobcat]

@still herald Bye!

@versed heath Sorry, didn't here what you said?

font what

Can you write?

@versed heath

[versed heath]

did you find her annoying

[upbeat bobcat]

Yes, she is annoying

[broken crater]

mtr

come dms

to vc

cus no perms here

[upbeat bobcat]

Say here what you want to say?

[upbeat bobcat]

What kind of bot you are making

What do mean by Record? @versed heath

Save chats or what?

Oh for voice chat

[whole bear]

@peak depot 👋

[whole bear]

hi guys

[upbeat bobcat]

hey!

[whole bear]

im actually so bored does anyone have an idea to make in python

[upbeat bobcat]

!kindling

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[whole bear]

whats that?

[upbeat bobcat]

Some projects

[whole bear]

oh k thx ig

https://tenor.com/view/noods-noodles-el-foodie-boricua-sticky-rice-foodie-gif-18450136

[wind raptor]

Back in ~15

[wind raptor]

Did I say 15? haha

[upbeat bobcat]

@wind raptor

@versed heath Clam down

@versed heath Can you turn off your mic?

[primal shadow]

!e

print(580/64)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

9.0625

[primal shadow]

@versed heath

^^

[versed heath]

!e
'''python
print("Hi")
'''