voice-chat-text-0

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[whole bear]

god damn

im trying to fix this for a month

aight

its ok

i didn t know

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith only .rs files are supported because of how it integrates with the build system as a whole

[whole bear]

Thanks you alisa

[vocal basin]

you can have non-Rust files

and just have a singular Rust file to open them by name or whatever

examples/
  _run.rs
  numbers.rattlescript
  strings.rattlescript

cargo run --example _run -- numbers
cargo run --example _run -- strings

or just this, assuming the project can take files as is

examples/
  numbers.rat
  strings.rat

cargo run -- examples/numbers.rat
cargo run -- examples/strings.rat

non-.rs files in examples can be whatever; the only restriction cargo poses is how .rs files and crate-like directories are handled

.repeat?

on a slice

I should probably convert this into a proc-macro so that it's parametrizable

there is a method that accepts &[Something; N] but not &[Something]

that's why that thing

not directly inside impl

you can put it inside methods

it now has language selector instead of just language guessing thing

previous paste sometimes decided that what it's looking at is not Python

e.g. HTML

@verbal zenith your crate is just importable from an example if it's a library

@verbal zenith clap you can just use

if you have it in either dependencies or dev-dependencies

(or both, then latter takes the priority)

odd that RR can't figure out how examples/ work

your crate is treated as external there

@verbal zenith to use the crate, it needs to be a library

no

don't extern crate almost ever

you need a lib.rs file

you don't really need anything from the crate to generate the text

[onyx linden]

@vocal basin can i get help

[vocal basin]

help with what

[onyx linden]

python keeps on crashing

[vocal basin]

what do you mean by crashing

[onyx linden]

dosent wanna open for me'

[vocal basin]

how are you opening it

[onyx linden]

everytime i try it dont work

can i come in vc and show=

[vocal basin]

what does the output show when you run it from the terminal

[onyx linden]

idk

all ik is that it dosent open for me

[vocal basin]

how are you running the program?

and what are you running?

python script or just python interpreter?

[onyx linden]

is a checker for sometyhing

and i show in vc dude?

look

[vocal basin]

(I don't know who you're referring to; I'm not a dude)

also

!rule 5

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[onyx linden]

mb

[onyx linden]

this isnt illegal lol

[vocal basin]

why is there "Nitro Codes" and "Valid Codes" then

[whole bear]

😂 🙏

[onyx linden]

i just have them there

u want me to remove and send vids

[wicked fox]

whatcha working on?

[vocal basin]

TIL replit supports Nix in some form
https://replit.com/languages/nix

[onyx linden]

so no help?

[vocal basin]

that's not an answer

[onyx linden]

there my personal bro

lady mb

[vocal basin]

then keep those separate from the project

[onyx linden]

ok i will

[vocal basin]

do not commit secrets to Git

[onyx linden]

ima move them now

[vocal basin]

or any other source control, including replit

[onyx linden]

ok i removed them

can i send a other vid now?

@vocal basin '

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith "profile"

!e

x = 1.23
print(f"{x:.4}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1.23

[vocal basin]

hmm

!e

x = 1.23
print(f"{x:0.4}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1.23

[vocal basin]

I forgot

!e

x = 1.23
print(f"{x:.4f}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1.2300

[vocal basin]

this

!e

x = 1.23
print(f"{x:.4%}")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

123.0000%

[spare galleon]

!e

cool

[vocal basin]

you can move variables into def main() to avoid shadowing

otherwise it's global and you can just refer to it

@verbal zenith .Popen is asynchronous, .check_output is synchronous

[rugged root]

Is Gemini any good as a model?

[vocal basin]

good for what

[verbal zenith]

https://craftinginterpreters.com/

[rugged root]

Usable. Wanting to upgrade my phone (currently have the Pixel 5 which is no longer receiving security updates) and looking at the Pixel 8 line.

[spare galleon]

i mean its usable

is it gud

[rugged root]

Pixel 8 is super super tied into the whole Gemini stuff

Main reason why I'm wondering

[spare galleon]

depends on what, i think im some ways it beats gpt4, but mostly is beaten by gpt4

i can show you, i have gemini pro

[spare galleon]

give me a couple of questions to ask it so you can get an idea

[vocal basin]

RR can't handle examples properly

how

[spare galleon]

unless you meant to connect it to an ide, in which case, i dont have an ai's connected to any of my ide's

[rugged root]

Well it's less about that kind of stuff, I think. One of the things it touts is being able to take a recorded conversation or presentation or what have you, transcribe it, and then even be able to give a summary of what it was all about

[spare galleon]

yes it can do that

[rugged root]

Photo clean-up and improvement, stuff like that

[spare galleon]

ahh yes, it is pretty useful for those things

[vocal basin]

@rapid flame runtime environment isn't The Problem, IDE is

[rugged root]

Neat

[vocal basin]

Windows is a totally fine platform for Rust

[spare galleon]

however no better then any other AI, and also it has its limits, dont expect magic

[spare galleon]

he can run WSL if he rlly wanted a linux env

[vocal basin]

you can use RR with WSL and have all the same problems

@rapid flame JetBrains has its own ideas about toolchains

its own wrong ideas

PyCharm is okay-ish

but only because it pre-indexes

which is a different cost

and it probably still doesn't handle nested wildcard re-exports

if you put from c import * in b then from b import * in a, it melts

best parts of IntelliJ ecosystem are IDEA and Rider just because how bad the alternatives are

and maybe also CLion because it's a functioning convenient C/C++ IDE, which is rare

I didn't hear, what recommended?

Node.js?

it's first listed not necessarily preferred

or rather

they suggest to use it inside Docker specifically

and WSL

2

it's also a less memory-hungry use of WSL

[spare galleon]

dont get a pixel 8, instead get the meta/ray-ban smart glasses, with the humanai/rabbit r1, for the ultimate ai experience

[vocal basin]

WeaSeL
SQueaL

what else is there

[vocal basin]

both pages suggest going to the other one for certain use case

I have Fleet installed, idk why

I'm not even sure I ever opened it

oh, today an album is released

which has two lines of my vocals in it

backing vocals

[spare galleon]

send song

[vocal basin]

idk if it's available worldwide

[spare galleon]

i can be anywhere, anytime

[vocal basin]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3cuQJ1yfu9VBfdow1h4mBf

[rugged root]

Region locked for me

[vocal basin]

not that I can open it either lol

[rugged root]

Weeeeeiiiiiird

[somber heath]

@timid spire 👋

[spare galleon]

אני לא מדבר זה שפה

[open quiver]

this vc is popping

holy

[silk dust]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-cow-omg-wow-moo-holy-moly-gif-25099315

@open quiver you in competition?

kaggle

[vocal basin]

1:57 and 2:04

[rugged root]

Do you play any instruments in the band or just some vocals?

[vocal basin]

I don't think they had anything in terms of music from me before

[open quiver]

LETS DO IT! @silk dust

[vocal basin]

I do infrastructure work (I host file sharing service they use and a wiki for them)

[silk dust]

yea today i tried importing required libraries and got stuck while importing cuda

had to install a bunch of packages

[vocal basin]

I did do some sound-design-related stuff but I don't they've used anything directly

[open quiver]

same want to create a gc to team up?

[spare galleon]

nice what software

[vocal basin]

most of sound research I do is via Python

[spare galleon]

nice what libs?

[vocal basin]

sounddevice, numpy, scipy

I think

not sure if I used sounddevice for recording

write code early

don't waste months on planning

adequate planning is done just before and during development not strictly before development

sometimes it's okay to start with implementation and figure out usecase later

but generally usecases are an important guidance mechanism

RDBMS things you need to plan because that's how they're built

schema

but there are many things nowadays which allow you to gradually upgrade it (migrations)

[vocal basin]

some people still believe waterfall is actual methodology worth following and not satire

[primal shadow]

I prefer to have a vision of MVP before I write a line of code

[vocal basin]

yeah, a usecase: what this program should do, at least in some sense

implementation-first is more for experiments

"what if"s

I don't track hours, I have no idea what I average a week

"I become the domain knowledge"
"I am the domain knowledge"
in cases of some obscure niche domains

"AI mentioned? AI mentioned?"
#voice-chat-text-1 message

I still have some business idea but that kind of necessarily involves making the website as a central piece of it

one day I might actually start making it and not just put it away for later

[primal shadow]

https://www.theodinproject.com/

[vocal basin]

for referencing specifics, MDN

react isn't that big

you can just read through all the docs

inspired by Elm

React is framework and library, the way I see it

framework at least just for how much limits what you can do

or, as it's known nowadays, PUBGBG

truly a rename of all time

I got more steam money from PUBG than the game itself cost

[primal shadow]

https://www.polygon.com/gaming/24173617/banana-clicker-game-steam-egg

[vocal basin]

it was mentioned somewhere here earlier

#voice-chat-text-0 message

I prefer improving ergonomics of the what I use and toolmaking to using AI for boilerplate
(rather make it be easier even without AI than have AI do the hard work for me)

"probably most people would prefer a car which doesn't have knife-sharp edges"

waiting for the "cybertruck: less aerodynamic than a cow" memes to arrive

[vocal basin]

as a remake of this

tbf translating SICP into JS isn't that hard since it's Lisp anyway

30 games for $0.15

I remember buying some bundle like that

there was something like 2 playable ones

I've only seen Enshrouded through the prism of LGIO misplaying it

I should play through all of Zachtronics' games at some point

reminder that such a masterpiece game as Trans-Siberian Railway Simulator exists

"can't wait to get 4090 Ti so that I can play it in 30fps"

[spare galleon]

nah get a100 to run it

[spare galleon]

@rugged root why was your last post a year ago\

[vocal basin]

for a second I thought this was about Click To Ten game

[spare galleon]

list is wrong, i dont see echo on there

[vocal basin]

has Unturned bot situation been dealt with yet I wonder

it's a good game
but there's something sketchy happening to player count

[vocal basin]

"if there's no one to sue you..."

if you distribute it, you'll definitely get into trouble

see ARK for example

it's soon to be abandonware technically

but devs sure want you to just pay more for a new version

(unless they backtracked on that)

no

they want to drop its support

and move everyone to new game

or wanted to do that long time ago

!voice @whole bear

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[vocal basin]

a while being <day

https://www.python.org/downloads/

[stuck furnace]

@whole bear Post the error message here!

[vocal basin]

upon running the installer, there will be an option to add py

(assuming Windows)

[stuck furnace]

@primal shadow Yeah nowadays it doesn't by default because you can use py instead.

Oh

[vocal basin]

both PATH and py are optional

I've ordered more RAM just to max out what CPU supports

[whole bear]

.

[stuck furnace]

Thanks

[vocal basin]

rerun the installer

[stuck furnace]

How did you install Python?

[vocal basin]

make sure to check "py launcher"

[vocal basin]

(this)

[whole bear]

python.org

ill try the py thing

[vocal basin]

if the installer says that python is already installed, select customize installation

[whole bear]

ok

[rugged root]

Or uninstall reinstall

Sometimes you just have to kick it in the butt

[vocal basin]

importantly: not in reverse order

[whole bear]

but it like has to use python 3.10

i dont

the py thing is already checked

i cant take it off

but ill see if it works now

nope

[vocal basin]

hmm

[whole bear]

can we change like the bat file itself or smth

idek

[whole bear]

are you like able to vc?

[vocal basin]

this might make python be recognised there

and py being findable as a collateral result

hmm

you're running it from cmd.exe, right?

[whole bear]

can we private call so ic an share my screen?

[vocal basin]

do you have C:\Windows\py.exe on your computer?

after running the installer

ig you can directly call that

hmm

but Windows should already be able to pull from C:\Windows...

[stuck furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

[vocal basin]

did you finish the process of installation or did you quit because you saw it's already checked?

[whole bear]

i finished it

[vocal basin]

.

if it doesn't exist, then that's very weird

[whole bear]

and how to i check that..

me silly forgor

[vocal basin]

win+R
C:\Windows\py.exe
enter

[vocal basin]

how are you running the batch script?

[whole bear]

but could we vc

[vocal basin]

from terminal/from explorer/from IDE?

[whole bear]

share screen = 10 times easier

[stuck furnace]

Could you try logging out and back in again?

[whole bear]

its s github project

im not tryna create a malicious script

anybody could say that

im a man

i am a cat

but im still a man

[gentle flint]

meow

[whole bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[stuck furnace]

Cya @rugged root

[spare galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[whole bear]

the C:\Windows\py.exe is not there

after downloading python

[spare galleon]

where are you installing python to?

[whole bear]

python.org

[spare galleon]

no what dir did you install it to

[stuck furnace]

Did you just install it to the default location?

[whole bear]

i think

[stuck furnace]

Could you open powershell and run the command ```
echo $env:PATH

[vocal basin]

darkgrey is light grey

[whole bear]

no im here

im slow

[stuck furnace]

Oh 😄

[vocal basin]

that's how HTML labels those two colours

it's not about perception, it's about what numbers it's hard-coded to be

[whole bear]

LX you there?

[spare galleon]

@gentle flint

[stuck furnace]

Yeah, does the command py work inside powershell?

[vocal basin]

the actual darker one is dimgray

[whole bear]

like just say py

[gentle flint]

I'm on a BenQ GW2270

[spare galleon]

nice

[stuck furnace]

Yeah

[whole bear]

nope

py : The term 'py' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spe
lling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
At line:1 char:1

• py
• ~~
  • CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (py:String) [], CommandNotFoundException
  • FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

[stuck furnace]

Oh

[gentle flint]

it's just a generic 1080p monitor

[spare galleon]

but its benq, lol

[gentle flint]

true

[whole bear]

yes

?

uhh no i cant

sadly

sickkkk

redacted you got any idea whats wrong?

py : The term 'py' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spe
lling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
At line:1 char:1

• py
• ~~
  • CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (py:String) [], CommandNotFoundException
  • FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

oh thats fine

loll

i think ive tried that

it like has to be 3.10

and iv egot 3.10

[spare galleon]

python --version

[whole bear]

Python 3.10.0

as it should be

system

do i really neem a vm

oh ok

[stuck furnace]

Does py.exe exist in C:\Users\Olive\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Launcher\?

[whole bear]

like just open the c:

and see if ppy is inside

[stuck furnace]

@spare galleon On your profile I think

[whole bear]

i joined like under an hour ago

[stuck furnace]

Yea the big profile

[whole bear]

cause i couldnt get this shit to work

[stuck furnace]

Yep

[whole bear]

danish

😭

[stuck furnace]

Er, I don't know what's going on, but adding C:\Users\Olive\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Launcher\ to your PATH I think should fix it.

Cya plome!

[whole bear]

?

[spare galleon]

uhh i dont read that language

[whole bear]

its on english wdym

[stuck furnace]

Yep! Just click new and add C:\Users\Olive\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Launcher\

[whole bear]

og ik how to create a new

redacted

you guys are the most wonderful people ever

it works

[stuck furnace]

Did it work?

Nice

[whole bear]

lx you are one beautiful man

sexy

[stuck furnace]

I have no idea how it got into that state 🤷‍♂️

[whole bear]

"no homo"

[stuck furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-i-have-no-idea-w-hat-im-doing-dog-space-outer-space-gif-5948461

[whole bear]

i plan on becoming a software engineer

or is it a bad idea

[stuck furnace]

You should be able to list the python versions you have installed with py --list now

[spare galleon]

nice

[whole bear]

isnt it like boring as shit

[spare galleon]

no it a gud idea

[stuck furnace]

@spare galleon Yea I think so 😄

Nah

[whole bear]

you get thrown out

im speaking with experience....

[stuck furnace]

I think all infractions kick the person from VC actually, including timeouts etc.

[spare galleon]

depends if you like coding or developing software or not

[stuck furnace]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[whole bear]

it does

[stuck furnace]

Ideas for like...

projects?

Programming projects?

[whole bear]

use blackbox.ai

its like ai

but best in coding

like good with programming

thats where blackbox ai comes in

[stuck furnace]

Yeah I'm heading off

Cya! 👋

[vocal basin]

time to test this on a certain set of exercises

[whole bear]

really sad i can use vc

but whatever

i have time

to wait

[spare galleon]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7DS5SpsWS7rtKeAfe9rbfn?si=4efdc95cad194fc4

[vocal basin]

impressive

but sadly wrong

[vocal basin]

https://parrrate.github.io/exercises/

[whole bear]

redacted

what music do you listen to

intresting

[vocal basin]

a what did it just write

[whole bear]

evil cat

[undone idol]

lmao

[whole bear]

sorry raised to not send it born to send it

[spare galleon]

class Vector {
    // Constructor method to initialize the vector components
    constructor(x, y) {
        this.x = x;
        this.y = y;
    }

    // Method to add another vector to the current vector
    add(v) {
        return new Vector(this.x + v.x, this.y + v.y);
    }

    // Method to subtract another vector from the current vector
    subtract(v) {
        return new Vector(this.x - v.x, this.y - v.y);
    }

    // Method to multiply the vector by a scalar value
    multiply(scalar) {
        return new Vector(this.x * scalar, this.y * scalar);
    }

    // Method to calculate the dot product with another vector
    dot(v) {
        return this.x * v.x + this.y * v.y;
    }

    // Method to calculate the magnitude (length) of the vector
    magnitude() {
        return Math.sqrt(this.x * this.x + this.y * this.y);
    }

    // Method to normalize the vector (make its magnitude 1)
    normalize() {
        const mag = this.magnitude(); // Get the magnitude of the vector
        return new Vector(this.x / mag, this.y / mag); // Divide each component by the magnitude
    }
}```

[whole bear]

redacted you want your cheese badge?

[vocal basin]

sed being integrated into discord has so far not done anything good for the society

like a singular function of sed

that was s/test/testtest

s/original/replaced with

I don't remember if it repeats

[undone idol]

[vocal basin]

it does not repeat by default

so it's like .replace("original", "replaced with", 1) or whatever notation python has for max count

[stuck furnace]

Not appropriate

[whole bear]

😭

[stuck furnace]

Nor this

👍

[whole bear]

😭

[vocal basin]

so far this fails compared to all other AIs I tested those challenges on

genuinely impressive

generally models are able to pass the simple tests at least

[whole bear]

💀

[vocal basin]

gpt3, phind, gemini, replit ai

those passed at least one test first try

yes

[whole bear]

the blackbox

it hink

wait

ti

ti

grrrrr

[vocal basin]

it can't even understand // don't change anything below comment from the challenge

[spare galleon]

    requestAnimationFrame(gameLoop);
    function gameLoop() {
        ctx.clearRect(0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height);
        function player(){

            ctx.drawImage(player.image, player.x, player.y, player.width, player.height);
            player.y -= 10;
        }

        function floor(){
            ctx.drawImage(floor.image, floor.x, floor.y, floor.width, floor.height);
            ctx.drawImage(floor.image, floor.x, floor.y, floor.width, floor.height);
        }

        player();
        floor();
        requestAnimationFrame(gameLoop);
    }



}
```why does player.y not do anything

[vocal basin]

well, at least, after two queries I was able to make it generate okay-ish definition for a Monad trait in Rust

just wait until the next OpenAI outage to find out

why is dark theme button hidden so far away

[whole bear]

ight im gonna head to sleep

[vocal basin]

it does feel like altered GPT3.5, yes

[whole bear]

goodnight ppl

and i sure dont hope theres any mosquitoes CAUSAE IM STUNG EVERYWHERE

AND ITS ITCHY

GRRRRRRRRR

[vocal basin]

it's bad at reading code, but it's okay for producing code

bad practices at speed and scale

almost no comment is proper comment

yes

but

the problem is: there are many people who write many useless comments

which offsets useful comments

most LLMs have this terrible attitude of commenting everything when you ask them in a manner which they guess to be expecting an educational answer

generally comments are for excuses, memes and reasoning not explanations

"how this works" comments are often wrong

"why" comments are more useful

it worked until it didn't

I asked blackbox.ai to explain 266 lines piece of code

it did mention "load balancer" earlier (and that was the question I expected it to answer with)
tbf it's not exactly a pattern

[vocal basin]

though it's getting a bit into a philosophical territory of what even a Reactor is

it was explaining the code adequately, then I asked it about the pattern and it failed

and now it's misunderstanding what replay means

tbf I wasn't really expecting it to contextualise half thousand lines of code

different code sample

https://docs.rs/ruchei/latest/src/ruchei/deal.rs.html#1-266
https://docs.rs/ruchei/latest/src/ruchei/multicast/replay.rs.html#1-524

first and second

[spare galleon]

    requestAnimationFrame(gameLoop);
    function gameLoop() {
        ctx.clearRect(0, 0, canvas.width, canvas.height);
        function drawPlayer(){
            ctx.drawImage(player.image, player.x, player.y, player.width, player.height);
            player.y += 10;

            if (player.y > 400)
                player.y = 400;
        }

        function drawFloor(){
            ctx.drawImage(floor.image, floor.x, floor.y, floor.width, floor.height);
            ctx.drawImage(floor.image, floor.x, floor.y, floor.width, floor.height);
        }

        drawPlayer();
        drawFloor();
        requestAnimationFrame(gameLoop);
    }
}

[vocal basin]

epic fail

[spare galleon]

why it no worky

[vocal basin]

why is line in drawFloor reeated?

[spare galleon]

this image

[vocal basin]

what's the expected and actual result?

[spare galleon]

 //loading assets
    var player = {
        image: new Image(),
        x: 400,
        y: 100,
        width: 100 / 1.5,
        height: 100 / 1.5,
        MomentumY: 0,
        velocityY: 0,
        mass: 10
    };

    var floor = {
        image: new Image(),
        x: 10,
        y: 400,
        width: 300,
        height: 300,
        MomentumY: 0,
        velocityY: 0,
        mass: 1000
    };
    player.image.src = 'pink_smileyface.png';
    floor.image.src = 'greenbrownfloor.png';```

[vocal basin]

it draws nothing at all?

[vocal basin]

have you tried rendering it at different coordinates/different dimensions?

which variable?

it might hypothetically collide with something

(that was a guess about how specific name could've broken it)

anyways
I need to go now

[spare galleon]

bye bye

[pearl acorn]

okey

nothing

learning python for devops

just final year of collage

it is a Bachelor of Computer Application

i am from india delhi

my friends are jerk

😂

they dont study and got backlogs

once

i know someone who is cofounder in a startup

yep in startip i learn more than a job

they pay less but longterm good for me

they help small companies to gain there online presence

appsmith

in which state you are work

no in this startup they help to grow small business like their small website for business

like marketing and their website managing there catalogue

🙂

grand ma will be happy

https://www.linkedin.com/company/bugcuredigital/posts/?feedView=all

they made recently

yes new startup

shri ram

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shri-ram-ggn/

I like to work on cloud Technology Jenkins ci/cd containerization /Aws but I at the very early stage of learning

yes I did 3 years of military training

I had used respect for military personal no matter which country their from

there job is the hardest

so there is a camp I went in the infantry military Battalion and in 15 day I feel their job is the hardest their lifestyle is very hard and engineer jobs are hard to they have to come before the fight and after the fight

my favourite part is that everyone mental strength is growing rapidly like you waking up three a.m. in the morning and going for training doing your daily job sitting brushing hell lot things

i was their

nice talking to you

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith what type does the argument have?

you probably need FnMut but it's declared as Fn

@verbal zenith fn won't work at all

you need either dyn or impl

dyn is stored via &mut dyn FnMut() or Box<dyn FnMut()>
impl is stored via an extra generic parameter

imo simplest option
argument: impl FnMut(ErrorReport)
field: Box<dyn FnMut(ErrorReport)>

thing I was going to show but then forgot (how many lifetimes I had to use to make bumpalo work)

which

ah

impl 'static + FnMut(ErrorReport)

or

impl 'some_lifetime + FnMut(ErrorReport)
Box<dyn 'some_lifetime + FnMut(ErrorReport)>

(you can move + 'some_lifetime to the end if you prefer that)

dyn by default assumes 'static

> lifetimes are at the beginning anyway
that's exactly why I put them there despite how it's normally done

[vocal basin]

this used to be five lifetimes

; at the end is what HTML does iirc

named lifetimes are common when there's more than one lifetime

https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/thread/fn.scope.html

!e

print("\u1111")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

ᄑ

[vocal basin]

there's Python way where it expects the correct length

!e

print("\U11111111")

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     print("\U11111111")
003 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
004 | SyntaxError: (unicode error) 'unicodeescape' codec can't decode bytes in position 0-9: illegal Unicode character

[vocal basin]

hmm

[vocal basin]

Scope<'scope, 'env>

[verbal zenith]

!e

print("\u111")

[vocal basin]

I don't remember if std/alloc/core have more places with named lifetimes

[verbal zenith]

!e

print("\x111")

[vocal basin]

!e

print("\0141")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 
002 | 1

[vocal basin]

hmm

not that

[verbal zenith]

!e

print("\0")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

�

[vocal basin]

!e

print("\077")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

?

[vocal basin]

this

!e

print(chr(0o77))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

?

[vocal basin]

only works for first 64

!e

print("\141")

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

a

[vocal basin]

idk if that works outside ASCII range

[pearl acorn]

hello

are you their

[primal shadow]

Good morning

[verbal zenith]

@vocal basin

It works WOOOOO

And it's really fast

[whole bear]

I hate how I can’t hear shit

Ok now it’s oki

hey

Pair programming sounds like a date

@primal shadow

Oh damn

Wait

[wise loom]

pair programming is when you get strapped to a chair and can't leave, you must watch(or type).
and depending on whether the other person is a hostile coworker you need to shut up or if they're friendly you can make suggestions.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN6-MUfWUAkMpMi.jpg

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @glacial shale until <t:1719635760:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[twin pond]

what the hell

[wise loom]

the truth is surprising

[twin pond]

well that was me with my father years ago but it wasnt as intense obviously

[wise loom]

that's family-driven programming

[twin pond]

LOL

not really xd

theres not a single dev in my family, its js me

instead, my fathers only fear was programming in computers and the mole in chemistry 😭

[whole bear]

so I do not think

I will ever be allowed to talk in a vc

[wise loom]

I was in meetings where I felt the same.
Sometimes it's better to be silent.

[twin pond]

i mean idk but is that some sort of bashing 💀

[whole bear]

sometimes it is. But I should be in a position to make that decision for myself not be silent by default because it takes ages tp get verified lol

[wise loom]

talk to Opalmist or MindfulDev, they can help you, also check #voice-verification

[primal shadow]

Not sure I'd call 3 days and 50 messages ages

maybe like... 3 days minimum

I guess for like...microbes that's a quantity of generations, but for humans, not so bad

[wise loom]

write a bit more here, doesn't matter what you write. you stand a chance of collecting 50 messages which will put you in a good spot to be eligible for VC

[somber heath]

@velvet crow 👋

[whole bear]

well I might have exaggerated slightly considering that I am no microbe😂

[wise loom]

you're a multi-cellular intelligent lifeform yes

[whole bear]

thank you for your input potato patato

[whole bear]

I lav eat wouen yiou tok derti tou mi laik dat

@somber heath yeah I get it there is lot of trolls and immature users online

I can imagine how annoying it must have been lol

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

Hii

hi humans in voice chat 0

But I can't speak

[primal shadow]

Hello

[wise loom]

do we have a bot here that can count messages for a user?

[primal shadow]

discord does it pretty good

[wise loom]

like a /stats command or something

[peak depot]

hi LX

[stuck furnace]

Hey everyone 👋

[wise loom]

how? search?

[whole bear]

lolool you better have 🤣

[whole bear]

niceeeeeeee

[wise loom]

oh ok

[somber heath]

@shrewd basin 👋

[primal shadow]

50 in 3 days isp retty easy if you hang out in chat

[wise loom]

you have 20 messages, making good progress

[stuck furnace]

What're you guys talking about?

[whole bear]

fine fine guys I retract my " complaint" 😂

[whole bear]

thank you for the pat in the back

:p

[somber heath]

https://storiesmatter.thewaltdisneycompany.com/

[stuck furnace]

What educational games are there?

Oh steam sale

I wish I had money

[whole bear]

end of convo

[stuck furnace]

@stark river What changes have they made?

[wise loom]

oh we can talk more

[stuck furnace]

It's been a while since I've used Java

[wise loom]

if you have an android phone you use it every day

[whole bear]

impressive :p

[wise loom]

what's your favorite drink?

[stuck furnace]

London too

I didn't go though

[whole bear]

Well starting off with the hard questions,,,. Well played.. It is a controversial topic tbh and my take is weird but my favourite drink is ho2 :p

[wise loom]

oh yeah i think i know that one, it's widely available

i'm having peach juice + rum + ice today

[whole bear]

I am basic like that

liking ho2... kinda lame

[wise loom]

🍑 + 🧊 + 🍹

[wise loom]

no no, ho2 is quite good, if you freeze it it's even more interesting

[stuck furnace]

Ah yeah. Reddit's search feature is also pretty bad

Yep

[whole bear]

when you said it we got a different vibe than when you sent the emojis*...

if you look at the emojis...

they tell a different story

[wise loom]

that's like.. your opinion..

[wise loom]

but sometimes i use OJ orange juice if that makes it sound more decent.. uhm..

[whole bear]

that's like... true...

[whole bear]

mhhhh it does

[peak depot]

https://armstreet.com/store/armor/

[wise loom]

tell me about this python writing habit of yours

[whole bear]

I started learning programming a couple days ago : p

lol

I am a noob

a beginner

tbh

[quaint oyster]

everyone is a noob'

[whole bear]

but I figured it would be helpful to join server where people also like coding and know how to do it well lol

[wise loom]

it's an excellent idea, this is the right place for you

although to be fair, there's more programming going on in text than in VC

[whole bear]

I got a tutor. We only did 2 lessons thus far lol. But I like making things work so I have a good feeling about programming

I feel like vc would be more helpful. Also I am embarrassed to send any code via text because... it is very beginner stufff tbh

so there's that

[primal shadow]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[stuck furnace]

Errr, django I think

https://github.com/python-discord/site

The site is also part of the backend of the bot

That's where we store like infraction data and stuff

[whole bear]

Braveeeeeeeeeeeeee is a good browser

f^^^^^ bing and googleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[stuck furnace]

I just like duckduckgo because of the ! commands

Like !py to search the python docs

Oh really

[wise loom]

I mean embarassment and shame are part of life

But then.. why should your code be perfect if you're a beginner

[stuck furnace]

LP?

Erm, he left the server

I think it was a bit of a distraction for him

@quartz beacon Connection issues?

[quartz beacon]

nah, i thought i missed something fun

but i then realised what you meant

[stuck furnace]

Ah right ok 😄

What's everyone up to today?

[wise loom]

do you believe it superior to chrome/ff?

[stuck furnace]

Yeah I use Edge on Windows

Not sure I remember why I switched from FF though.

Firefox

Have you tried Vimium (the extension)?

Vimium C is another I think

[wind coral]

what about brave ?

[stark river]

Tridactyl

[stuck furnace]

Honestly, never used it 🤷‍♂️

I gotta go, cya 👋

[whole bear]

oh yes

[wise loom]

yes, Maria likes Brave, idk why tho

@whole bear do you play any games

in other news

has anyone been able to migrate a Windows install from one disk to another?
via diskpart/bcdedit/bootrec ?

[primal shadow]

a long time ago from a hdd to an ssd

[short owl]

extract key --> reinstall fresh windows to new faster SSD @wise loom

[wise loom]

that would work yes, but for this scenario imagine there's too much software to install and configure so a clone would be better than a reinstall

[short owl]

I agree , I need to learn same thing , will consult my GURU @wise loom

[pearl acorn]

hello

some

ab

[pearl acorn]

😂

Python 3.12.4

use vm

[errant hatch]

hi guys myself alisha

[vestal arrow]

hi

what is the voice chat today

[spare galleon]

it for tmrw

[slender sierra]

Hi @somber heath

[vestal arrow]

can i join

[somber heath]

@solar pike 👋

[solar pike]

hey

i cant speak

[somber heath]

#voice-verification

[solar pike]

ty

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have sent less than 50 messages.

damn

[wise cargo]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @solar pike until <t:1719758798:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[vestal arrow]

can i join

[somber heath]

You needn't ask.

[vestal arrow]

so i can

[somber heath]

Join or don't.

[vestal arrow]

ok

[somber heath]

Life is full of possibilities...or many inevitabilities.

[earnest quartz]

hi cool man

[earnest quartz]

agreed ✅

[whole bear]

hi

[primal shadow]

HELLO

[vestal arrow]

hi

[primal shadow]

Gotta love caps, the worst key ever

[vestal arrow]

lol

[somber heath]

@calm copper 👋

[calm copper]

hi

sorry i dunno how to verify

to be able to talk lol

[stark river]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@fleet atlas 👋

[fleet atlas]

Hi

[calm copper]

hmm so i joined today so I doubt i'll be able to speak haha

these were the requirements

You have been on the server for less than 3 days.
You have sent less than 50 messages.
You have been active for fewer than 3 ten-minute blocks.

see yall in 3 days haha

😿

right right

anyway i'm gonna go i got a data science task to complete for an interview tomorrow and i'm procrastinating

take careee

[fleet atlas]

Hi guys, hope you all are fine
I just joined the voice chat randomly. I used to be active in discord, and also somewhat in python server, then i went on to focus on my electrical engineering. Until recently i again joined discord,
seems like lot of things changed 😁, a lot to catch up

I joined in like 2020, during the covid time

[vestal arrow]

i joined years ago and only just saw it again

[whole bear]

Hey

[open moth]

@void hearth here

Type here

Opal

[somber heath]

@void hearth 👋

[open moth]

Omg

Nice to meet you again

[void hearth]

hello brother

could u tell me about python

i want to learn it

coding one not amzon one

[somber heath]

!resources

[wise cargo]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[somber heath]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[stuck furnace]

Hey 👋

Yeah that makes sense I think

[stuck furnace]

What're you trying to do again?

Actually, I've got to go cya 👋

[verbal zenith]

seeya

[austere spruce]

what u working on?

a what?

3d printer ohhh

tbh i have never worked with rust before so idk whats going on lol

here for it tho.

wow you have so much patience in figuring the problem out i would have just asked lol.

[frozen owl]

addition assignment

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13308399/what-do-these-operators-mean

[austere spruce]

haha thanks to me

jk

[frozen owl]

https://github.com/andreaslam/ZanLing-TrueZero

[austere spruce]

...

well that was odd

ok

[fleet bone]

hi

[spare galleon]

bgjfkldw;lekrthbvncmlxa;? asgnfjdklwq?>a,mnkfldw

[austere spruce]

idk what is going on. tbh

so what even is ur project in simple terms @frozen owl

no not at all i just dont get it

right well good luck.

so when did you start learning python and rust?

rust a year ago and your good as that impressive.

[austere spruce]

@muted hinge cant see screen

[muted hinge]

I know

I can't figure out how stream properly on linux

Perhaps I should just use chrome...

[austere spruce]

yea just use that

at least thats what i use

what are you working on?

[muted hinge]

Improving pip's error messages

[austere spruce]

oh nice

im still learning python. But for some reason i keep stopping since i feel like i dont have a goal in mind.

[primal shadow]

Come up with a goal!

[muted hinge]

oh ugh

[primal shadow]

make tic tac toe in the console

[muted hinge]

I've honestly given up on personal projects for the most part. I work on OSS projects these days :)

[austere spruce]

oh lol

[austere spruce]

i mean like a field in mind

[primal shadow]

Don't worry about a field, worry about comfort with problem solving

[austere spruce]

its always in my mind for some reason

i see ppl super ahead coding bots that automate stuff and im just more and more eager

[primal shadow]

Then automate the boring stuff with python

[violet ermine]

Could anyone assist with a line of code that I can't seem for figure out?

[gentle flint]

try asking in the help forum

if you read #❓｜how-to-get-help it will tell you how to ask

[violet ermine]

okay

[primal shadow]

Alternatively, sharing the code is a much better way to get help than asking if anyone will help.

In general, asking to ask is a bit redundant.

[gentle flint]

it appears to have been a js question
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1257062668628525187

[primal shadow]

Great for the OT channels

or these voice ones

And people might be less upset about the lack of python.

I read the question, not sure I know the question.

[austere spruce]

hello @stark river

[austere spruce]

what u working on

[stark river]

enums n shit

[wise loom]

Enums..

We out here!

Enums’n’structs’n’unions n shit

The whole nine yards

[junior flint]

hello i need help what is this error
OSError: [E053] Could not read config file from C:\Users\DepressingPp\Desktop\cancer_Shit_STAGE\working with dataset\myvenv\Lib\site-packages\pyresparser\config.cfg
i wanted to use pyresparser

[gentle flint]

try asking in the help forum
you can read #❓｜how-to-get-help to find out how to ask

[junior flint]

okay thank you

[stark river]

is the file present at the location?

[somber heath]

@lucid blade @ivory bolt You might have some things to chat about. Or not.

@glad snow 👋

[glad snow]

I just deployed to have a glance of the situation

[somber heath]

@bright sierra 👋

@fallow spade @sturdy night 👋

[sturdy night]

why you mentioning?

[somber heath]

Did you join the voice chat briefly a short time ago?

[sturdy night]

mic doesn't work in there in the voice chat

[somber heath]

#voice-verification

[sturdy night]

for 0.002 sec

[somber heath]

@dull coral 👋

[dull coral]

hi

i cant talk lol

[ivory bolt]

@amber raptor

[amber raptor]

You too!

Wow

[ivory bolt]

https://www.qubes-os.org

[stark river]

yes

i have unscoped enums.. thinking if i should scope them

the admin is on vacation

[ivory bolt]

just quit using cpp

embrace c

[amber raptor]

Embrace neither

[somber heath]

@terse rose 👋

[amber raptor]

Stop writing in insecure languages please

[ivory bolt]

?

[stuck furnace]

Heyy

[amber raptor]

C and C++ are both insecure

[ivory bolt]

no they aren't

[somber heath]

@atomic mortar 👋

[stuck furnace]

Errrm, I'm leaving in like 5 minutes for an appointment sorry!

[whole bear]

hu

hi*

so

[ivory bolt]

give me video perms before you leave

[whole bear]

I am close

[somber heath]

@regal zodiac 👋

[whole bear]

to being

[stark river]

dont spam

[whole bear]

able

to actually

[ivory bolt]

rage bait !!!1!11

[whole bear]

fair ok sorry

[stark river]

dont spam.. the bot will mute you

[amber raptor]

Yes they are. It’s why all security minded people are saying please stop using them.

[stuck furnace]

The mod will mute them

@whole bear You can already verify I think, fyi

[stark river]

didn't you say you were leaving in 5 mins for a dis appointment?

[whole bear]

I mean I was nor exaclty spamming but I see where you are comming from. I was just excited because I akm close to beiing to verify lol

[stuck furnace]

Yep

Oh lol

Sorry

[whole bear]

f**k yes yes 😮

[stuck furnace]

Use your new powers for good!

[whole bear]

pinky promise

[stuck furnace]

The linux kernel contains rust now I think

[amber raptor]

I think it's only drivers right now

[stuck furnace]

Oh right

[amber raptor]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/oncd/briefing-room/2024/02/26/memory-safety-statements-of-support/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Final-ONCD-Technical-Report.pdf

[somber heath]

@nimble mural 👋

@naive harbor @honest reef 👋

[naive harbor]

hi

[vestal arrow]

hi

[naive harbor]

can u guys resolve this error

[somber heath]

@distant zephyr 👋

[naive harbor]

ok

[random falcon]

``?

[somber heath]

@nimble remnant @pallid carbon 👋

[pallid carbon]

👋

[nimble remnant]

👋

[vestal arrow]

u ok

[ebon mist]

@abstract needle https://github.com/pl23/mtg_app

[abstract needle]

https://render.com/

a web store for gathering what?

[peak nacelle]

Tcg magic the gathering

[abstract needle]

whats TCG?

[peak nacelle]

Trading card game

Web store

[abstract needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mwFC4SHY-Y

[naive harbor]

how to get permission to talk in the vc

[terse rose]

Hash the sets somehow ? I think I misunderstood the assignment I'm lagging hella bad

Wish I could talk in here I have many ideas (:

[stuck furnace]

See #voice-verification

[terse rose]

Ye I just joined

[naive harbor]

ok

[terse rose]

Fair enough I understand

I saw it already just waiting

Guido van Rossum:
Start simple then improve

Not a direct quote but something like that

[stuck furnace]

Trust me it doesn't take long to reach the message requirement if you hang around in the text channels a bit.

[naive harbor]

can some one help me add a python code of chat bot into my website as a pop up
i have devloped a website
but i cant figure it out how to do that

[lost tapir]

@frozen owl There exists a REPL for Rust. As such interpretable Rust isn't entirely far from reality.
https://github.com/evcxr/evcxr

[vocal basin]

@shadow pewter +rep for using ё instead of е lol

!e

1 is 1

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | /home/main.py:1: SyntaxWarning: "is" with 'int' literal. Did you mean "=="?
002 |   1 is 1

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith

[amber raptor]

!e python a = True x = 1 if a is False: if x is 1: print('hello')

[vocal basin]

!e

def hierarchy(type_, depth=0):
    print(' ' * depth + type_.__name__)
    for subtype in type_.__subclasses__():
        hierarchy(subtype, depth + 2)
hierarchy(Warning)

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Warning
002 |   BytesWarning
003 |   DeprecationWarning
004 |   EncodingWarning
005 |   FutureWarning
006 |   ImportWarning
007 |   PendingDeprecationWarning
008 |   ResourceWarning
009 |   RuntimeWarning
010 |   SyntaxWarning
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/O6QYSMKGTQWFGE2RH3UII4AT5Q

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | /home/main.py:4: SyntaxWarning: "is" with 'int' literal. Did you mean "=="?
002 |   if x is 1:

[vocal basin]

literal and is

just like it says

[vocal basin]

> UserWarning

[amber raptor]

!e python a = True x = 1 y = 1 if a is True: if int(x) is y: print('hello')

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello

[vocal basin]

is True is valid

just like is None

(as an aside mention)

it only checks for literals

[amber raptor]

!e python a = True x = 1 y = 1 if a is True: if int(x) is y: print('hello')

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello

[vocal basin]

is 123, is "123"
but not is True, is None

!d ResourceWarning

[wise cargo]

ResourceWarning

exception ResourceWarning```
Base class for warnings related to resource usage.

Ignored by the default warning filters. Enabling the [Python Development Mode](https://docs.python.org/3/library/devmode.html#devmode) shows this warning.

Added in version 3.2.

[amber raptor]

https://docs.python.org/3/using/cmdline.html#envvar-PYTHONDEVMODE

[vocal basin]

after importing that's reasonable to import on Windows, there's only two extra warnings seems like

Warning
  BytesWarning
  DeprecationWarning
  EncodingWarning
  FutureWarning
  ImportWarning
  PendingDeprecationWarning
  ResourceWarning
  RuntimeWarning
    InvalidTZPathWarning
  SyntaxWarning
  UnicodeWarning
  UserWarning
    GetPassWarning

@frozen owl compiled and interpreted isn't mutually exclusive

for Python, .pyc is produced

(not always)

for non-imported modules it will normally only be kept in memory

!e

print(compile("print(2 + 3)"))

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(compile("print(2 + 3)"))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | TypeError: compile() missing required argument 'filename' (pos 2)

[vocal basin]

hmm

!e

print(compile("print(2 + 3)", "example.py"))

[wise cargo]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(compile("print(2 + 3)", "example.py"))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | TypeError: compile() missing required argument 'mode' (pos 3)

[vocal basin]

rrrrr

!d compile

[wise cargo]

compile

compile(source, filename, mode, flags=0, dont_inherit=False, optimize=-1)```
Compile the *source* into a code or AST object. Code objects can be executed by [`exec()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#exec) or [`eval()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#eval). *source* can either be a normal string, a byte string, or an AST object. Refer to the [`ast`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#module-ast) module documentation for information on how to work with AST objects.

The *filename* argument should give the file from which the code was read; pass some recognizable value if it wasn’t read from a file (`'<string>'` is commonly used).

[vocal basin]

!e

print(compile("print(2 + 3)", "<string>", "exec"))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

<code object <module> at 0x7fcf862fcc70, file "<string>", line 1>

[vocal basin]

yay

!e

exec(compile("print(2 + 3)", "<string>", "exec"))

[wise cargo]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

5

[vocal basin]

!d ast.AST

[wise cargo]

ast.AST

class ast.AST```
This is the base of all AST node classes. The actual node classes are derived from the `Parser/Python.asdl` file, which is reproduced [above](https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#abstract-grammar). They are defined in the `_ast` C module and re-exported in [`ast`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#module-ast).

There is one class defined for each left-hand side symbol in the abstract grammar (for example, `ast.stmt` or `ast.expr`). In addition, there is one class defined for each constructor on the right-hand side; these classes inherit from the classes for the left-hand side trees. For example, [`ast.BinOp`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#ast.BinOp) inherits from `ast.expr`. For production rules with alternatives (aka “sums”), the left-hand side class is abstract: only instances of specific constructor nodes are ever created.

[vocal basin]

@verbal zenith #

formatter.alt

or whatever

@verbal zenith that debug implementation just passes self.kind directly to formatter?

self.kind.fmt(f)

@verbal zenith just make sure it's the right .fmt