voice-chat-text-0

[whole bear]

Have you watched Food wars?

[swift valley]

I don't watch much anime

Unfortunately

[willow light]

@amber raptor nothing quite like having to, once again, derail code review to, once again, ask my team to stop using the word "slave" in the terminology. Especially given it's now company policy not to use that word, at least during the month of February

[swift valley]

But somehow I have enough time to finish Tears of the Kingdom twice

[peak depot]

me in math class atm:

[willow light]

How long did that take you to make?

[rugged root]

I.... don't know if that's acceptable?

[willow light]

And what did you do to find it?

[peak depot]

Imgur made it

[peak depot]

I can hear you squirming 😄

[minor sapphire]

can you open images in python?

[willow light]

yes

[minor sapphire]

because I found some code which requires an image to work. What do I do to get the image

[rugged root]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python-pil-image-open-method/

[willow light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdei5VbJMc

[rugged root]

https://pillow.readthedocs.io/en/stable/installation.html

Co-worker is back here, going to mainly be typing now

Smells like team spirit

@willow light

[minor sapphire]

I'm trying to change the windows 11 lock screen background from python, and I can't work out what kind of image it wants me to use

[echo garden]

to behonest with you @rugged root you start talking in my notifications, I was completely doing something else... and its like "Squirrel"

[rugged root]

Dynamically?

[minor sapphire]

dynamically?

[rugged root]

As in like... wanting to change it every now and then

Because I wouldn't use Python for this

Be back in a bit, training a co-worker on our new mail system

[minor sapphire]

[whole bear]

Can I ping Lemon on my Birthday?

@wind raptor Does this server give you something on your birthday?

[willow light]

!pip metpy

[wise cargo]

MetPy v1.6.1

Collection of tools for reading, visualizing and performing calculations with weather data.

[willow light]

!pip siphon

[wise cargo]

siphon v0.9

A collection of Python utilities for interacting with the Unidata technology stack.

[willow light]

!pip pint

[wise cargo]

Pint v0.23

Physical quantities module

[marsh pasture]

Hello, I want to to code abot but what editor do I need to use to create my bot

[willow light]

whatever you feel most comfortable using

don't let others decide that for you

[whole bear]

@hollow kelp 👋

@marsh pasture 👋

@dense shuttle 👋

[hollow kelp]

hi

[marsh pasture]

Hello!

[whole bear]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[hollow kelp]

Hello mayor

[marsh pasture]

I'm learning to code

[dense shuttle]

Hii

[marsh pasture]

I didn't realize I need to get some things on visual studio code

so i watxh videos now

[whole bear]

@vocal basin Help

[hollow kelp]

i am here to discuss on the different projects,

i am not able to voice channel

[whole bear]

#voice-verification

Check this out

[hollow kelp]

yeah i checked, i need to have at least 50 text msgs

[whole bear]

We have a cool button

@balmy phoenix 👋

[whole bear]

How are you?

[balmy phoenix]

hi bbe

babe

lol

[dense shuttle]

I'm good sir, you ?

[balmy phoenix]

kek

btw

i want to develop a new app that should be simple and preferably related to today time (2024).
it should only take 3 weeks of coding max.

anyone who has ideas ?

[whole bear]

!kindling projects

[wise cargo]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[balmy phoenix]

thanks

[whole bear]

What would you like to disscuss?

[hollow kelp]

see i am working on a desktop app development, i have used pyqt and developed the whole app. but still thinking that what technology will be best and optimize for desktop app developemnt.

and is it worth working on desktop app development.

[whole bear]

What is the app about?

[hollow kelp]

it's a pdf app

what can i do with python i am wander on what thing should i work on for better job opportunity

[hoary mist]

Hlo

[hollow kelp]

hi'

[hoary mist]

I'm good what about you!

[stark river]

electron/tauri

[whole bear]

What languages do you speak?

[hoary mist]

I want to talk in vc but I don't have permission

[whole bear]

#voice-verification

[hoary mist]

?user

[hollow kelp]

english

[whole bear]

You're Indian aren't you

[dense shuttle]

I am a student, is Python helpful to me, I had learned little bit Python in school

[hollow kelp]

yup

[whole bear]

@hollow kelp

[hoary mist]

My 50msgs was not completed 😢

[whole bear]

Do you only speak english?

[hoary mist]

?user

[hollow kelp]

yeah i am indian , what about you

[whole bear]

Same

I speak telugu, tamil and english

[hoary mist]

I want to create automm bot but i don't know which wallet provide free apis or cheap APIs for doing transaction, anybody know which one can i use !?

[hollow kelp]

professionally i speak English, and except this i speak my national language and my reginal language

[dense shuttle]

But bro your accent

Cool

[hoary mist]

@whole bear your voice is great ! Which mic do you using !

😂

[whole bear]

What other languages do you speak?

[hoary mist]

!!

[hollow kelp]

but why are you interested in knowking about the language, i am here talking about programming language not about my spoken language, 😂 just don't mind

[whole bear]

Also Anjali use Electron or tauri

[hollow kelp]

i use pyqt5

[hollow kelp]

what do you do ? and how much experience you are having as a python developer ? on what type of project you have worked on yet ?

[whole bear]

I'm in the process of learning Python and would like to create cool projects

[hollow kelp]

ok

[whole bear]

Yeah I'm a beginner

[whole bear]

Also we have a lot of Indians on this server but they don't know the language I speak

[left leaf]

sup mens

doin good

[hollow kelp]

yeah also don't know bangali. i only talk in english

[left leaf]

@wind raptor what up man how is it going

im forced to learn react nowadays

[hollow kelp]

i do speak hindi

[left leaf]

sadly

[hollow kelp]

no

i am from bihar

[normal lava]

@whole bear mic server surpressed :(

[opaque scroll]

I have a telugu roommate

[dense shuttle]

It's bihar not byehar 😭😭

[whole bear]

#voice-verification

[hollow kelp]

i am eagerly waiting to join voice chat, love to discuss with voice.

[hoary mist]

1

[dense shuttle]

Yes

[hoary mist]

2

3

[hollow kelp]

😂 don't know when i will get the chance

[hoary mist]

4

[whole bear]

Tiger stop

[hoary mist]

5

[whole bear]

No spamming

pls

stop

[hoary mist]

Lol need to send 5 more that why !

[swift valley]

Don't spam messages to get there though!

5 isn't a lot lol

[iron bone]

rust

oh

[hollow kelp]

what do you understand by software architecture if i am using python

yeah

2 years

i had started working in 2022

[swift valley]

elo

[hoary mist]

Yea sry

[hollow kelp]

do you know about software architecture and design , anyone knows , kindly discuss

[whole bear]

Do you play chess?

I'm 500 elo

[swift valley]

I don't, unfortunately

[whole bear]

I do not

@wind raptor Help

[hoary mist]

@swift valley what do you making !?

[swift valley]

a type checker

[peak depot]

@hollow kelp we can hear our voices from your mic

[hollow kelp]

yeah

i got the voice verification

[hollow kelp]

guys what topics we are discussing

[hoary mist]

What is it ??

[hollow kelp]

i thing a prticular topic should be discussed in a specific chat

[gilded rivet]

bayes theorem neon

[hoary mist]

Ohh what is it ?? 🤔

[gilded rivet]

Lets say you have two events, (A) and (B)

[dense shuttle]

Use earphones

[stark river]

@hollow kelp you can use Krisp

[gilded rivet]

The probability (A) occures that is contingent on (B) is defined as the probability of (B) contingent on (A) times the probability of (A) occuring devided by the probability of (B) occuring

You can use this to develop really good estimations on the probably of A occurring if B occures

[peak depot]

p=propapility, a = event a, b = event b. on the term that event a happens, event b happens = P(a and b)/ P(b)

[gilded rivet]

This allows you to talk about how fast firefighters will come to your house depending on income level or w/e

[vocal basin]

@swift valley isn't it Sized by default when using generics?

[peak depot]

you might need this stuff in datascience

[random copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYmcpuyECQ0

[vocal basin]

I think for named generics it's opt-out

[swift valley]

I think it complains when I pass &dyn InferenceDatabase

[vocal basin]

?Sized then?

(to opt-out)

[hoary mist]

💀 ohhi didn't got it but maybe it is something cool

[willow light]

I assume this is considered a Python Discord sin

[hoary mist]

@hollow kelp you Indian right ?

[swift valley]

Oh, right, it complains on the pretty_print

[hoary mist]

Yes I'm

[whole bear]

@hollow kelp https://lichess.org/6QzvWeVh

[random copper]

Sitte in venten, spiele lidta dota...

[whole bear]

https://lichess.org/3nJpcFws

[hoary mist]

Can anybody suggest me good laptop for coding in 30k inr (30k inr = 450$)

[swift valley]

@whole bear @hollow kelp I suggest moving to the other voice channels

[random copper]

8gb ram 500mb gpu 3 core i3 processor 500gb ram

[gilded rivet]

https://www.educative.io/courses/distributed-systems-practitioners/algorithms-for-horizontal-partitioning

[swift valley]

I get the feeling that this visitor I'm using feels very unwieldy

Might as well just write it manually 😬

[vocal basin]

does visit get called multiple times per visitor?

looks like yes

ig then Visitor::Output wouldn't make sense to have it return stuff (and it probably wouldn't be a visitor if it had that)

[swift valley]

The fact that writing it manually feels more maintainable hahahaha

[swift valley]

I can make a visitor trait that has a monoidal return type

[vocal basin]

yeah, match looks more Rust-appropriate

[amber raptor]

that is some deep CS stuff right there.

[rugged root]

We're lacking the hips

You getting into drag, Sin?

More power to you

[willow light]

I keep my hair super short specifically so I can use hairpieces, since my hair type is especially terrible for drag.

and also because shampoo and conditioner is cheaper if you don't have as much hair

[swift valley]

I think here's a good use of a visitor in this code base https://github.com/purefunctor/purescript-analyzer/blob/module-incremental/crates/analyzer-module/src/infer/rules/recursive.rs

i.e. for collecting stuff

[peak depot]

https://www.instagram.com/plastiquetiara?igsh=MWp4MGRwcjR0cTh3bw==

[rugged root]

I get what you're saying

[vocal basin]

I have a visitor in one of my Rust projects for similar reason

but there it's for iterating over generic stuff

[rugged root]

Visitor?

[vocal basin]

the pattern

[rugged root]

I shall look

[vocal basin]

!d ast

[wise cargo]

ast

Source code: Lib/ast.py

The ast module helps Python applications to process trees of the Python abstract syntax grammar. The abstract syntax itself might change with each Python release; this module helps to find out programmatically what the current grammar looks like.

An abstract syntax tree can be generated by passing ast.PyCF_ONLY_AST as a flag to the compile() built-in function, or using the parse() helper provided in this module. The result will be a tree of objects whose classes all inherit from ast.AST. An abstract syntax tree can be compiled into a Python code object using the built-in compile() function.

[rugged root]

So is it separating the business logic from the structure?

[vocal basin]

!d ast.NodeVisitor

[wise cargo]

ast.NodeVisitor

class ast.NodeVisitor```
A node visitor base class that walks the abstract syntax tree and calls a visitor function for every node found. This function may return a value which is forwarded by the [`visit()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/ast.html#ast.NodeVisitor.visit) method.

This class is meant to be subclassed, with the subclass adding visitor methods.

[vocal basin]

(an example in Python standard library)

[peak depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEh3A_A8-VU&ab_channel=IceQueenFan

[vocal basin]

to avoid having to use dyn

[rugged root]

🎶 Bianca Del Rio and she's dancing on the sand 🎶

[vocal basin]

yes, especially for cases where that structure depends on data

[rugged root]

@mild quartz Sup

[mild quartz]

yoyoyo

[rugged root]

How goes it

[rugged root]

Making functions that work on various data structures so it's less dependant on the structure as a whole

[vocal basin]

it's also used for using different types of items

(or one item)

like implementing Rust-enum-like thing in Java-style OOP

(visitor isn't a perfectly strictly defined pattern, afaik)

@willow light do not forget pathlib

[rugged root]

Oh wait, it's ducktyping

"I'm going to do this method so long as it implements this method"

Or something like ABC

Where you need or expect these classes to implement the method

Or am I off-base

@gilded rivet pathlib is god

pathlib + mmap

Argparse

[echo garden]

@peak depot hello how are you today

[rugged root]

@cedar briar Sup

[peak depot]

I´m ok, you?

[echo garden]

@peak depot what was that though it sounded like you ate the mic

[peak depot]

yeah. popcorn

not the mic

[vocal basin]

"how did you get vim nano to look like that?"

[cedar briar]

👋 I just had my first MRI scan. The most excruciating part of was hours of wait. Apologies if that was too much detail.

What are you up to?

[willow light]

"just use sed and awk"

[vocal basin]

neoed

[rugged root]

Everything alright?

[swift valley]

Sure thing

[rugged root]

It's the buffering

[gilded rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zinZmE3Ogk

Raymond Hettinger

[rugged root]

The name sounds familiar

[cedar briar]

Had a minor soft tissue injury in the knee, but I'm back to be able to ride now. Recovering fast 😄 Thanks for asking.

[willow light]

Last time I had a scan of that kind I had to drink barium sulphate. 0/10 did not taste like chocolate at all.

[rugged root]

Nice! I'm glad to hear you're on the mend

https://tenor.com/vmzPWrpM36C.gif

[cedar briar]

@swift valley I think the is_some and if..else blocks can be cleaned up, if you're into that.

[peak depot]

guess how much a mri scan costs in Finland? euro is on same lvl with dollar (about)

[willow light]

I'm going to guess significantly less than in the US

[peak depot]

without insurance about 700e/$

[cedar briar]

I thought health care was free.

[peak depot]

it is

[rugged root]

@willow light Oooo that'd be a good drag queen name

[willow light]

That's an order of magnitude cheaper than in the US

[gentle flint]

when you order parts on internet

[rugged root]

Miss Information

[peak depot]

but if you just casually want an mri it´s about 700e

[gentle flint]

the box

[rugged root]

Dibs

[gentle flint]

the contents

the actual part

[peak depot]

if a doctor gives a referelar on puplic healthcare, it´s free

[rugged root]

It would just be me in drag telling all my random factoids

It was protected at least

It could bend

[willow light]

just put it in a hard shell case and then an envelope

[cedar briar]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[rugged root]

Sorry, I missed what was said

[peak depot]

there is no need for a single mri cost more than that

[rugged root]

Sideways?

I mean it'd have to be caught at a weird angle

[willow light]

last time I had a CT scan, with insurance it was $20, but without insurance it would've been $30,000

[rugged root]

Can only order them in March thru May

@gilded rivet If he did then he's an asshole. The random snow and 20 F weather yesterday means he liiiiiiiies

[swift valley]

Can you elaborate?

[gilded rivet]

Lolllllll

[rugged root]

Not for New England

[peak depot]

a mri machine costs 3,5-11milj. image how many customers you need to pay that back if a single mri costs 30k. not many. that means the profits the hospitals make in the states is just too much

[rugged root]

four storms
And seven years ago

[peak depot]

reculate that shit!

[rugged root]

Penguins are already doing that

Not black, but their poop is dark enough to absorb the heat and accelerate melting a little

Solution, open season on penguins

@willow light What the jet liners?

[peak depot]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-16348084597044947976

[willow light]

https://tenor.com/view/cycling-milk-truck-pick-up-truck-activetravel-gif-21780902

[rugged root]

Minimum

Again, hyperbole

[rugged root]

Tears up the roads

Part of a Honda

[willow light]

brb driving my super masculine prius through there

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/z18v.gif

Just don't have stickers

@willow light I sighed and shook my head

So it was acknowledged

[gilded rivet]

This is mid

[peak depot]

mid?

https://tenor.com/view/falling-in-style-snowmobile-gif-27355274

[rugged root]

Average. Not great, not bad

[peak depot]

aaa

[peak depot]

sint is hard to please

[rugged root]

I really don't think that's the reason

That's a weird way to put it

Yeah that's racist

[gilded rivet]

It is, it's an okay racist joke

But it's a mid racist joke

Like, who cares

Not something I'd put in a compilation

[willow light]

brb

[gilded rivet]

@peak depot I have to wonder if they are trying to be good at 2-3 things as opposed to one thing that they'll be mid at each thing or w/e

[gilded rivet]

Being excellent as costuming might make their comedy worse or w/e

[willow light]

the locals are here

[rugged root]

I can appreciate the folks who do it, I'm just not super into them

[gilded rivet]

I can't because I haven't seen anything good >:|

[rugged root]

Fair

I went to a show at a gay bar. Got a couple free drinks

Was a good self-esteem booster

@willow light I choose to believe you got mugged

[whole bear]

Did you tell your wife?

[rugged root]

It was long before I knew her

And she doesn't care anyway

[peak depot]

https://youtu.be/mjF1rmSV1dM?si=DaujfSOesyDk0Tzp

[gilded rivet]

That's called pre-cheating

[rugged root]

Oh is that why god is disappointed in me

[willow light]

Last time I was at a gay bar it was in Boston MA. Upon finding out that I know how to twerk, basically everyone wanted to give me a drink.

[rugged root]

Figured it was for other reasons

[rugged root]

"Oww, oww, owwwww! Twerked my back!"

I mean you have to have something to shake

[gilded rivet]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BBCQuarry

[rugged root]

In fairness, I do have some cakes to work with

[gilded rivet]

"I've been to many planets in the solar system, and you'd be surprised how many of them look like quarries in Wales."
— David Tennant, Never Mind the Buzzcocks

[rugged root]

God I need to exercise...

[whole bear]

I tried twerking and just realized I can't twerk

[rugged root]

Can't, busy right now

[vocal basin]

👍

@peak depot it shouldn't be

[rugged root]

Phat

[vocal basin]

it should be as exhausting as normal singing

[gilded rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_BR00OsYo

[rugged root]

@willow light Were you forgetting to use the patches?

[willow light]

Yes

[vocal basin]

same vocalist
https://youtu.be/gRcGk7y-sBU

[willow light]

My bedside table is a minifridge so I can keep cold brew coffee nearby.

[gilded rivet]

The only growling I do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0DKSjZaqU

[rugged root]

Sup

[swift valley]

Wassup

[whole bear]

Hi

Dad

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/xQPm.gif @gentle flint

[whole bear]

Can you give us a dad joke?

[rugged root]

Goooooolllllllld

[willow light]

No more plastic in my coffee

[gentle flint]

the crowds are milien around in vc

[rugged root]

Please make my life easier

Of course they aren't running; they roll

[gentle flint]

only if you change my bike rim

[rugged root]

Depends. Do you want it done incorrectly?

[gentle flint]

it already was

that's why it cracked

[rugged root]

Put the tire on sideways, got it

[gentle flint]

courtesy of the previous owner

[rugged root]

Because it's a schedule 2 drug that people are getting illegally

[gilded rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/840694204967682048.webp?size=240&quality=lossless

[rugged root]

And using for recreational purposes

Those people are what we call "assholes"

That is another reason why they're using it

I think it's technically a variant of Adderall in my case

Vyvanse is the one I have

A can of bus

Nervous little bastards

[rugged root]

Was the second one ai gen'd?

[rugged root]

Okay that's straight up a monster from Kingdom of Loathing

[gilded rivet]

LOL antsirational posters

[whole bear]

Hemlock have you watched Food wars?

[rugged root]

I haven't

[willow light]

definitely a good noreaster today

[vocal basin]

now I can and will compare exhaustiveness of extreme and normal vocals using myself as test subject despite being ill

(context: Milien claimed extreme vocals to be more exhausting -- that is a likely sign that she's just doing them incorrectly)

[swift valley]

I can't tell if I'm hitting the screenshot button accidentally or it's coming through from someone's mic

Specifically the mac sound one

[vocal basin]

screaming, growling, etc.

[gilded rivet]

Spamming screen shot button

[willow light]

taking screen snips of satellite data

[swift valley]

ohh

I thought I was hearing things hahahaha

[vocal basin]

I once hit 4KHz with voice
that was a funny moment

[rugged root]

@willow light Please no

[vocal basin]

that indeed hurts ears when producing that sound

[rugged root]

Right just don't do it into the mic

It came through a moment ago, that's all

Okay, I'm curious. I'm trying to figure out whether this is just the issue I have from the meds through all these years or if this is just a thing. If you look in a mirror and stick your tongue out, are you able to have your tongue stand still? I can't keep mine from twitching

Which I think is an early sign of tardive dyskinesia

It's not

Just a genuine thing

Or at least it's a sign for me, your mileage may vary

Mine is really twitchy

Oh it's already diagnosed with my doc

Yeah

Mine also manifests as chewing

[willow light]

going to have to wait for a bit for an actual winter day I gues

[rugged root]

So sometimes I'll be just doing a chewing movement and I don't even realize it

Like a compulsion

It's not a tic, not exactly

So it's different from touettes

A condition affecting the nervous system, often caused by long-term use of some psychiatric drugs.
Tardive dyskinesia is caused by long-term use of neuroleptic drugs, which are used to treat psychiatric conditions.
Tardive dyskinesia causes repetitive, involuntary movements, such as grimacing and eye blinking.
Stopping or tapering drugs that may be contributing to involuntary repetitive movements can help. In rare cases, botulinum toxin, deep brain stimulation, or medications can help.

It never goes away

[whole bear]

Hemlock I am starting to learn python bit by bit so may I have stream perms?

[rugged root]

This is something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my days

It's just annoying

And more just need to be watched in case it gets worse

Oh goody

Yeah it's the mic

It's dropping out some of the lowest tones

[peak depot]

You need your abbs for it cos if you don't use your abbs you will do with your troath and it kills your vocal cords

[rugged root]

@whole bear It's still packed away

He moved

Work porpoises

[peak depot]

I use to be semi trained soprano

[sour willow]

sup hem

[rugged root]

Yo

How goes it

[sour willow]

btw did you do any reverse proxies in C#?

im not sure if i wanna use java

tryna opt for nodejs or C#

[rugged root]

nginx?

[sour willow]

im using nginx already

just need another layer

[rugged root]

Wait... why would you need a reverse proxy for your reverse proxy

Why not a message queue?

[willow light]

I was a damn good soprano before puberty

Now I'm in that awkward area between tenor and baritone but can't really do either well.

[sour willow]

huh

thanks mate

[rugged root]

Not sure if that helps

Just an idea. I don't do a lot in that area

Yet

[vocal basin]

Rabbit is that you

[rugged root]

HA

In fairness, rab isn't wrong in this regard

[sour willow]

wait can you use ssls locally?

[rugged root]

The ssl certs?

[peak depot]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1WzgR4I8bo/?igsh=YmlmZjc4a3RmN2Rz

ortadunyacom

Ben Del Maestro 2003 yılında Kralın Dönüşü soundtrack'i için kayıt alırken.

#yüzüklerinefendisi #ortadünya #lotr #lordoftherings #soundtrack #returnoftheking

Likes

228923

Instagram

[sour willow]

yeah

on like localhost or something

[rugged root]

I would assume so but I don't know what the benefit would be

[vocal basin]

self-signed certificates are a thing

[rugged root]

@raw carbon You're going to hit infrasound at some point

[sour willow]

af still working on that mindsweeper thing?

wasnt an ai hm the algo?

[vocal basin]

pvp minesweeper was playable since day 2 of development

now it's just convenience features getting added

[rugged root]

Elephants will be super interested in what you have to say

[sour willow]

hate the fact theres no libary to properly do this for me

feel like this is junk code

[rugged root]

Back later

[marsh pasture]

Help! I have this thing and I dunno how to revert it back to the line thing

I'm using PyCharm

[vocal basin]

insert?

the button

[marsh pasture]

Oh thank god

Thank you

[vocal basin]

I don't remember how to do this lower (I only roughly remember how it should feel but illness does indeed prevent me from getting there)

[echo garden]

like really this is you? were you perferming and exersism?

[vocal basin]

there's, like, two ways to go lower:
let more air out
change throat positioning

!e

def square(x):
    return x * x

print(square(square(3)))

[wise cargo]

@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

81

[vocal basin]

!e

def greet(input_):
    if "hello" in input_:
        return "hello there"
    else:
        return "I'm not sure what you mean"

result = greet("hello, computer")
print(result)
print(result)
print(result)

[wise cargo]

@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | hello there
002 | hello there
003 | hello there

[vocal basin]

greet there is called only once

[stark river]

print returns None

[vocal basin]

!e

def greet(input_):
    if "hello" in input_:
        print("hello there")
    else:
        print("I'm not sure what you mean")

result = greet("hello, computer")
print(result)
print(result)
print(result)

[wise cargo]

@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | hello there
002 | None
003 | None
004 | None

[vocal basin]

(outputs are different)

[swift valley]

Functions return None by default

[stark river]

the return value of print is None

[swift valley]

Pretty much

[vocal basin]

print-return would be like dbg! in Rust

[swift valley]

I think the confusion of return vs print comes from the Python REPL not printing that a function returns None

[vocal basin]

Python compiles to bytecode which could be considered binary encoding since it's non-textual

[stark river]

same issue with javascript.. undefined is the implicit return value

[vocal basin]

bytecode then gets interpreted

[swift valley]

I mean, it's more an issue with the REPL

~ ❯❯❯ node
Welcome to Node.js v21.6.1.
Type ".help" for more information.
> console.log("hello");
hello
undefined

[vocal basin]

no compilation to machine code with CPython afaik

[swift valley]

At least node makes it clear that it returns undefined

[undone inlet]

yeah.

[onyx trout]

thxn for the help btw

[stark river]

never used the repl.. everyone wants to put the history dotfile in my home dir 😭

[undone inlet]

It's really good for a lot of things, but it's just slow but it's getting better.

[stark river]

all the configs all the histories.. just sitting in my home dir

[undone inlet]

I am having a bit of fun with python as of right now making a cli for my self.

[vocal basin]

just docker run -it --rm python:2
(:2 is optional)

[undone inlet]

I had to create a compile script.

[vocal basin]

pollute the image list instead of home directory

[undone inlet]

But what I find sad when making a cli there is no tool out there to compile your python code to something like sh or ps1.

So I have to use the python interpreter to run the code and generate my sh & ps1 scripts.

[swift valley]

I really should implement a logger on this project already

[undone inlet]

So yeah I am doing that wth just os, pathlib & pycompile.

[swift valley]

It's littered with dbg everywhere lol

[undone inlet]

🤣

[vocal basin]

with tracing+tracing_subscriber? or more custom?

[swift valley]

At least my 400-odd line change works thanks to the coffee

[undone inlet]

Try MacOS with DS_Store everywhere.

[swift valley]

haha

[undone inlet]

The pains of using MacOS with coding.

[swift valley]

I rarely use Finder anyways

[undone inlet]

Same.

[swift valley]

Not for code folders at least

[vocal basin]

I'm still using log but trying move stuff to tracing
(maybe will try out slog too)

[swift valley]

Only the top-level documents

[swift valley]

Something along those lines

[undone inlet]

I use terminal for folders but sept for download and documents I use finder for.

[swift valley]

I need something custom to generate flamegraphs as well

Trying to think what's next to implement here hmmm

Maybe the expression checking or something

[undone inlet]

Ooh Rust I love seeing rust cause I just like the syntaz.

[vocal basin]

doesn't, like, cargo-flamegraph allow custom data sources?

(or flamegraph-rs generally)

[swift valley]

Ooh, I haven't seen that yet

[undone inlet]

Yeah I haven't seen it before.

[vocal basin]

I'd expect it to allow custom sources because it's generic over perf and dtrace

[swift valley]

iirc, rust-analyzer implements its own performance tracer

[undone inlet]

Yeah.

[vocal basin]

both of those sadly require privileged context (harder to get working in containers)

[swift valley]

Probably gonna do this then go sleep

[undone inlet]

Good idea you need your sleep.

Anyways I am going to go I will catch you guys/girls/humans or whatever later.

[sweet veldt]

hi

ined help for telegram bot

[vocal basin]

what library are you using?

sent challenge on lichess

should show up somewhere

[sweet veldt]

@stark river hi bro

can you hlep me to telegrame bot

[vocal basin]

@sweet veldt

[sweet veldt]

yes

[whole bear]

gg did I get better?

[sweet veldt]

?

[vocal basin]

what package are you using for integration with telegram?

[sweet veldt]

idk im new in python

i want make log bot for my channel

join and leave members

can you help me

[vocal basin]

I only have experience making bots that just reply to commands

I guess for logging it'd just be events

similar to Discord

one of hard parts would be how to properly disclose it to users

and to allow users to request for removal of log entries

[cedar briar]

I'm not sure of the entire context, but from what I saw, you were doing one thing when it's a some and another if it's a none.

checking.map(|arg| one(arg)).or_else(|| another())

[vocal basin]

that's not necessarily cleaner

functional-style? maybe

[swift valley]

Yeah there's only a few places in the code where I use combinator(?)-style

[vocal basin]

the real power of combinators is with extension traits

[cedar briar]

It would objectively be better if the closures could be named properly.

[vocal basin]

it wouldn't

[vocal basin]

e.g. for chaining operation on nested results

"naming"/factoring out closures is also non-trivial in many cases because of scope

also 1) near impossible in async 2) very ugly when replacing ?

[swift valley]

I wish custom ? is stabilized soon™️

It's about as close as I can get to a short-circuiting monad

[vocal basin]

the way ? works is actually a good quiz question for why Poll isn't Option

or rather, well, answer

Poll of[ Option of] Result interoperates with Result via ?

[rugged root]

How're tyings going over here

[swift valley]

It's 4 am and my coffee is finally wearing off

At least I was super productive lol

[rugged root]

Yarp

Workin' and tweaking my editor

[swift valley]

'tis done https://github.com/purefunctor/purescript-analyzer/commit/2f644cb03c3713d946729dcd067d1be1c97f1a47

[vocal basin]

the most intense sleepless work I had was monads stuff in Rust
~2K lines added in 4 days

[rugged root]

That's not how that works

This isn't a bargaining thing

[vocal basin]

(a lot of that time was thinking away from PC)

[rugged root]

The more you beg for perma, the less likely you are to get it

[swift valley]

I've been working in this project for 7 months now

[rugged root]

Because you're an absolute champion, Pure

[echo garden]

for sure pure

for sure

[vocal basin]

I should get back to that at some point

[swift valley]

I'll probably do another stream tomorrow to implement errors for the type checker

For now I'll go zzz

[vocal basin]

also since now I know more powerful representations for monads, I may try to re-do it in a more optimal way

less Boxes more type hell

@whole bear sleeping is essential for memory which is important for coding

[sweet veldt]

inde help for this error

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/runner/MinorBrokenVolume/main.py", line 2, in <module>
    from telegram import Update
ImportError: cannot import name 'Update' from 'telegram' (/home/runner/MinorBrokenVolume/.pythonlibs/lib/python3.10/site-packages/telegram/__init__.py)

[turbid sandal]

@somber heath

me and him are practically friends now

https://tenor.com/view/lemon-dance-cartoon-silly-gif-7844631

[brisk bridge]

hi

a doctor, probably veterinary

[rocky holly]

xbox

[undone inlet]

How everyone doing in python?

[civic chasm]

step by step

[undone inlet]

Yeah for loops for me.

[undone inlet]

Just coding a CLI.

https://github.com/eveeifyeve/cli

[dense shuttle]

Does Anyone take any lectures here ?

[undone inlet]

I don't but I am in high school does that count?

[dense shuttle]

Can you teach me ?

My teachers are useless, pathetic 😒

[undone inlet]

Sadly I am not teacher but there is some great resources out there you just got to expand out from those resources.

Like doing projects and stuff.

[dense shuttle]

How can I do projects

[undone inlet]

Ideas

[dense shuttle]

Are they easy or difficult

[willow light]

It is only difficult if you let it be difficult. The most effective way to not let something be difficult is to practice.

So find something you find interesting, and work on it.

Start small.

[obsidian dragon]

imports
vars
functions
input
logic
output

https://osyra42.github.io

[somber heath]

@vital snow 👋

@narrow verge 👋

@hidden tusk 👋

@crystal jasper 👋

[narrow verge]

i cant listen english but i like join voice:)

[peak depot]

@minor sage hi

[vital snow]

Hello

[vital snow]

Hello

[somber heath]

If Christopher Walken made a zombie film, would he call it Christopher Walken Dead?

@cold steppe 👋

[cold steppe]

Hi

[narrow verge]

hi

[obsidian dragon]

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-Supreme-Limited-Optical/dp/B08YK5JJFV?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

[cold steppe]

one of Indonesian vice presidential candidate have Strong Law Regulator Uncle, and now it calls "Uncle Supremacy" 🤣

[willow light]

@peak depot Single Awareness Day is our holiday today

@peak depot how do I pronounce "talkoohenki"

[somber heath]

@golden eagle 👋

@eager nexus 👋

[eager nexus]

Hi

[somber heath]

@turbid minnow 👋

[rugged root]

That has to be someone's gaming handle somewhere

[lavish rover]

Hello frens

[rugged root]

Yoooooo

[lavish rover]

Sup

[rugged root]

Not much, you?

Cheaper than jail costs in the long run

[sour willow]

i was in van once, saw a naked man smacking his back in the middle of the street

[rugged root]

@minor sage I've never heard anyone say "cracky"

[sour willow]

canada is quite the country

[rugged root]

Wait, was that related to the van?

[sour willow]

van for vancouver

[rugged root]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I read it as "in a van"

Was really confused

[sour willow]

had some guy tryna eat my sushi in the night once lol

he walked like a zombie

good times though

arent random stabbings very common?

[rugged root]

That's just a dick move

@minor sage In what way

What policy changes has he made that make you say that

@echo garden Hell of a way to go

You will be missed

I've been here, nerd

[echo garden]

oh

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/z8wp.gif

[echo garden]

your quiet

[rugged root]

Oh I was thinking it was going to be "Caught in a man romance"

It has man in the word

Wait what? Where?

That's amazing

[minor sage]

https://tenor.com/view/possum-opossum-scared-ахуй-freaked-out-gif-14267767681427156165

[rugged root]

God the lazy eye to the side

Jesus dude

Remember your audience, @minor sage

Dowel rods?

[sour willow]

That wasn't even anything special i would see dudes parkouring poles bars and falling over cause they were too drunk on an almost daily basis

[rugged root]

Parkouring over someone, swiping a salmon roll on the way

[rugged root]

Like a Harry Potter wand...

[sour willow]

i wouldnt really care but when your doing it next to a busy road just gonna ruin some random dudes day cause your a dumbass

[rugged root]

@somber heath They just like a good ol' pool party

[echo garden]

hmmm

[rugged root]

Exactly

Everyone else pays for the consequences

[echo garden]

dumbass is what it is

[rugged root]

Yes

[eager nexus]

Yes

[rugged root]

But can you SEA them?

Hey sai

How goes it

[eager nexus]

some people even have them on aquarium

[rugged root]

@echo garden No. The eggs are transferred to the male and they're the ones that carry it to term

[sour willow]

feel like google is getting dumber each day

i can only use it for like the most basic questions

[rugged root]

At least I think that's right

[echo garden]

@sour willow i use chatGPT

[rugged root]

Computer mouse

[sour willow]

i dont use chatgpt cause it makes random stuff up alot

[rugged root]

Corsair would be a great name for a mouse

[sour willow]

i prefer bings ai

[echo garden]

bing

[rugged root]

Bong

@amber raptor Sup. @molten pewter Also sup

[echo garden]

i haven't used it in a few years

[rugged root]

Conscious.

That's about all I can ask for today

[somber heath]

@odd holly 👋

[rugged root]

You're really quiet Fury

[sour willow]

huh randomly got a flashback of rabbit trying to teach me americans state laws

[somber heath]

He sounds fine to me.

[rugged root]

Oh it's fine now

Maybe he was speaking quietly

Rab, he doesn't love you enough to pay attention

I'm sorry to tell you

Tile is nice

I had it before you guys, yeah

Freak snowing on Monday

@molten pewter In case you aren't seeing me

You never look at me during

I liked it

[rugged root]

Also, you smell different when you're awake

Then you lean in real close to hug someone

https://tenor.com/9P9t.gif

https://tenor.com/bi1wB.gif

HA

I mean they're supposed to be representative of the Nazi party (in regards to Hydra in Marvel)

Profeshor?

@molten pewter "I've got a fever, and the only cure is more alt-right media"?

Oh is it not?

My bad

Joke me

Oh god, like when parents were terrified of their children playing D&D because they thought it would make them satanists

T-spinning their way out of the lord's light

Hold on, have to clip that audio from Fury...

[minor sage]

i gotta split gents

cyas

[rugged root]

Peace

[somber heath]

@lament merlin 👋

[rugged root]

I consider sadism to be another level, though

In fairness, Alt+Right is an available keybind

You can be that change

@echo garden "Alt right"

Yep

Nope

Just neutral

Exactly

Yes

[somber heath]

I once mentioned to some family friends that I did D&D with a group at school, they were concerned. Fantastic group of people

[rugged root]

The pursuit of sowing chaos where law is too rigid

[whole bear]

Hey Opal

And Hemlock

[rugged root]

Yo

@amber raptor Wait, Libertarians?

Only in it for themselves, don't want government getting in their way

Right or wrong, get off my lawn

[whole bear]

Who is your valentine guys?

[rugged root]

My wife

Two continents

Which America

There we go

[amber raptor]

@molten pewter

[obsidian dragon]

OpenAI is broken right now

[rugged root]

The important part

[obsidian dragon]

why ai break tho

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/bK5aR.gif

[obsidian dragon]

no?

[rugged root]

Oh that was my gif representation of Fury right now

You're missing the context

[obsidian dragon]

Furry?

[rugged root]

I could convert him

Trying to break more away from the monarchy, right

[obsidian dragon]

yes I am

[rugged root]

Middle school text books? @molten pewter

@digital ermine Yo

@maiden quiver Also yo

[digital ermine]

hey hey

[rugged root]

How goes it

@molten pewter That's what she said

[digital ermine]

it goes well.

[rugged root]

@amber raptor I mean the taxation without representation was the largest part of it

[molten pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/camber-hellaflush-slammed-gif-5449965

bottoming out?

[rugged root]

HA

[somber heath]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[rugged root]

Wikipedia for the save

[amber raptor]

Sure but if East India import requirement, it may have not happened.

[rugged root]

For sure

There were a lot of moving parts

Very much so

Like "I like Ike"

[somber heath]

The 16th would have been the culminating note of a longer history.

[rugged root]

Gotta find something that flows

https://tenor.com/xyHa.gif

[molten pewter]

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-government-and-civics

[rugged root]

Was trying to find something in the Sublime Text command palette and.... I'm not mature enough to handle this

Right but you could

[rugged root]

Happy Valentine's Day

[amber raptor]

It’s always fun to see downstream effect of various things like Prohibitionists was in support of income taxes.

[rugged root]

Wait really?

So it was to encourage people to work instead of drink?

"I'm Just a Bill"

[molten pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVKvqTItto

[rugged root]

Jeeeeesus

So there was no income tax prior?

Or just not enough

Interesting

Long view, prohibition is why I have my job

https://tenor.com/brRN5.gif

Our county doesn't, yeah

Property tax yeah

But not income

[amber raptor]

My guess Missouri doesn’t let them.

[rugged root]

Possibly, I haven't looked that far

It's just getting triple taxed that gets annoying and complicated

We HAVE reasonable taxes

It's the tax code that's bullshit...

If you're getting a refund, that means that you were putting in too much

Or they're giving a stimulus or something

[digital ermine]

I think taxing is important to fund services. But who should be taxed and how much each person is taxed should be debated and changed depending on the situation at the time

[rugged root]

For sure

Back in a tic

[echo garden]

k

[digital ermine]

I don't have a mortgage. I live with my parents. lol

[amber raptor]

I’m probably one of few who Net tax payer

Fury probably isn’t.

[digital ermine]

I get funded by my local goverment to create jobs

[rugged root]

That's one way to look at it

Actually that's a good way to think about it

That never clicked before in my head

[somber heath]

That's a potentially ominous statement.

[rugged root]

"Gonna need a lot more morticians by the time I'm done...."

[digital ermine]

what do you mean?

[somber heath]

I mean, Hemlock had a decent take.

[rugged root]

If it's dark humor, I'm your guy

[somber heath]

Basic wish corruption mechanics.

[rugged root]

Oh, Opal

Circuits Animal

[digital ermine]

Ok got it.

[rugged root]

Thoughts?

Or any other Circus spin on that

Circuits Clowns would be scary

[somber heath]

High wire something.

[rugged root]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

[somber heath]

High voltage wire.

I'm not feeling it.

[rugged root]

Slack-rope Walker

[echo garden]

jack troupe hopper

[digital ermine]

sword eater

fire sword eater

[rugged root]

For context as to what I'm doing https://godvillegame.com/news

You can suggest content to be added to this game. It's a lot of puns and tongue in cheek humor

@slim field Sup

@molten pewter Not yet. Started playing "Persona 5: Strikers" again

[echo garden]

a little 'raibid"

[rugged root]

I'm sure I'll pick it back up in a couple months

I go in phases

Something like that

Oh I was talking about the joke names I was going through

Just thinking up ideas for the game

[digital ermine]

god of accents

i wonder if there is such a thing and how many adherents there are for the god of accents

[rugged root]

Sup

The ones that I've put forth and have been added to the game (special mentions to @somber heath and @wind raptor who helped with these):

• Artifact: karma insurance
• Artifact: eligible bachelor's degree
• Monster: Fashion Insultant
• Artifact: happily ever after-shave
• Artifact: bugbear spray
• News: "Regretting not staying home today..."
• Quest: "refill the guild mini-bar". Upon completing the quest: "The rest of the guild doesn't seem too pleased with my selection of microscopic-micro-brews..."
• Artifact: unregistered trademark

During weekdays

There's folks who pretty much live in #python-discussion

I'm most proud of the top 3

Can you give the full traceback?

[wise cargo]

Traceback

Please provide the full traceback for your exception in order to help us identify your issue.
While the last line of the error message tells us what kind of error you got,
the full traceback will tell us which line, and other critical information to solve your problem.
Please avoid screenshots so we can copy and paste parts of the message.

A full traceback could look like:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "my_file.py", line 5, in <module>
    add_three("6")
  File "my_file.py", line 2, in add_three
    a = num + 3
        ~~~~^~~
TypeError: can only concatenate str (not "int") to str

If the traceback is long, use our pastebin.

[digital ermine]

if you get an implant, think about refusing the metal fixing, you will have issues if you ever need an MRI

[rugged root]

How so?

I'm pretty sure they use non-ferric metal

[digital ermine]

hmm interesting. It was a question they ask if the preassessment for MRI scans.

is college the same as UK university?

[rugged root]

More or less

We usually say college and university interchangeably

[digital ermine]

OK

[rugged root]

Although in most cases, college refers to a 2 year school

I think

[digital ermine]

hmm that's the same in the UK

[rugged root]

Like I went to Ozarks Technical College and got my Liberal Arts Associates and then went to Missouri State University

Higher education schools number 5 and 6 of my higher education travels

Dropped out from MSU, I just couldn't take it anymore

[digital ermine]

I see

[rugged root]

6 colleges across 3 different states

[digital ermine]

eek

[rugged root]

Had like 100+ credit hours that got converted to elective credits

And I had fractions of credit hours because one of the schools when by a quarter system instead of the standard semester

I just couldn't do it anymore, I was so burnt out

[digital ermine]

oh

It happens a lot

[rugged root]

Yeah, just still angry at myself for not finishing. And I don't think I could go back and do it. Just can't do it

I was a terrible student. I crushed tests, but I could never remember to do homework

[digital ermine]

I was the exact opposite

[rugged root]

@earnest crag Sup

[digital ermine]

hey hey

[rugged root]

We can't prove that

Oh right right

I would explain what you're doing and what you're scraping it for

@earnest crag Let's scoot down

[earnest crag]

I explained in a call

[whole bear]

@slender sierra 👋

[earnest crag]

I had to explain to them why I am even asking and not just using it LOL

[rugged root]

Yeah I'd do that.

Although also check their terms of service as well

[slender sierra]

Did you block me?

[earnest crag]

Their website doesn't even have TOS/TOU

[dense shuttle]

Hii

[rugged root]

See if it mentions that kind of stuff at all

Yo

[earnest crag]

they dont got one LOL

They a bit website too LMAO

[whole bear]

No

[rugged root]

So no API either?

[earnest crag]

All they got is <website name >©️

[lone flame]

@rugged root Hi, can you help me with errors in the code we were going over a few days ago?

[earnest crag]

It's like a website where you post what you selling

It's a big one but it's a local ( for the country)

[rugged root]

Yeah, I'd just email saying who you are, what you're doing, etc.

[digital ermine]

old school.. lithimium

[earnest crag]

YE BUT

Wiat ima form it

[rugged root]

Sure sure

[digital ermine]

defintely spelt lithium incorrectly

[earnest crag]

and you tell me if that's enough Ill make it formal later

[dense shuttle]

Bro I'm kid 😭😭

[earnest crag]

Is it okay for me to use data from your website for training an AI model?

[rugged root]

Wait, is Quant turning into a robot for anyone else or is it just me

[earnest crag]

good enough?

[rugged root]

That feels.... too brief

Actually hold on

#data-science-and-ml might have a better opinion on this

[earnest crag]

Do I have to mention scraping because I don't have a way to explain it in my language so it doesn't sound scary

[rugged root]

Someone might have had to send out these kinds of emails

[earnest crag]

ty

[rugged root]

Hope it helps!

@lone flame Whatcha got for me

[lone flame]

Should we go in another voice chat?

[rugged root]

Sure thing

[dense shuttle]

I'm a 1st student can I became a data scientist I learned a little bit Python and mysql and how to combine there data in school

[digital ermine]

Hey guys, i got to go. It was really nice to listen in. Thanks for sharing.

[earnest crag]

@rugged root also I am getting mixed feedback on my question that I ask in AI servers.

Some say if it doesn't say don't scrape etc in TOS then it's fine.
Some say it most say DO SCRAPE etc to be fine.

Websites here rarly got that TOS etc

[rugged root]

Oh they moved it

Ohhhhhhh

Okay

Shouldn't matter, at least according to the guide

[whole bear]

good evening, I need help does anyone have a telegram auto shop bot that verifies crypto payments automatically? Please

hello

[whole bear]

We're so bored

@ivory stump Are you available?

[ivory stump]

sure, what u wanna stream

[whole bear]

Chess

Ik it's not the weekend

[ivory stump]

!stream 717749310518722691

[wise cargo]

✅ @whole bear can now stream until <t:1707937178:f>.

[ivory stump]

He does

But it's ok

he simply lies to all the others

so they can feel better

[whole bear]

@flat onyx 👋