*runtime performance
#voice-chat-text-0
vocal basin
oblique ridge
depends on your employer
vocal basin
time and cost of development would often count as part of efficiency too
rugged root
Checking
lusty rampart
time and cost of development would often count as part of efficiency too
well depends on what is the code for, sometimes investing much time on a code for nothing is not worth
woeful salmon
have i found my first contribution to cpython? ๐คฃ
wind raptor
Java is to JavaScipt like car is to carpet
lusty rampart
once i made a greedy algorithm for the robber problem, i did it in like 2 hours and when i told the teacher to take a look, he was like, well using this and that you could have done the same thing
vocal basin
time and cost of development would often count as part of efficiency too
(as in contributing negatively to efficiency)
lusty rampart
i got destroyed
woeful salmon
that's why we use the perfect programming language https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd
lusty rampart
!e
lusty rampart
where is the commands channel?
vocal basin
#bot-commands
oblique ridge
#bot-commands
lusty rampart
and like to see all of them?
ive seen a command that executes code
can i send code here ?
is it allowed?
vocal basin
... and then even for performance Python isn't that bad, because most heavy processing would be in other languages just binding to Python (numpy and others)
!paste for long code samples
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
!code for short code samples
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
` not '
lusty rampart
my keyboard is spanish
i mean i dont know where do you mean
รฑ xd
maybe i can send 2 pictures ?
rugged root
Back in a sec, just screwed up my connection
lusty rampart
it seems as mine but i think its easyer this
vocal basin
... there's so many variants
vocal basin
return type of solve seems odd
second options seems more fit for it
print(solve(...), ...)
print(*solve(...), ...)
;-; nvm they changed the entire structure of the frozen modules
lusty rampart
second options seems more fit for it
```py
print(solve(...), ...)
print(*solve(....
may i ask whats the difference ?
vocal basin
!e
def solve():
return "a", "b"
print(solve())
print(*solve())
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | ('a', 'b')
002 | a b
theory
lusty rampart
!e
```py
def solve():
return "a", "b"
print(solve())
print(*solve())
```
oh okey
nice
thanks
desert vector
* "unpacks" an iterable
vocal basin
SunOS 4.1 obviously best OS to use
woeful salmon
i just hop between windows and linux depending on how i'm feeling
i can work with either
rugged root
Sorry, computer threw a temper tantrum
lusty rampart
wild
rugged root
oblique ridge
ay nice
woeful salmon
xD i still remember doing that as a kid on a road and getting smacked across my face to never do it again
rugged root
Did it work?
woeful salmon
i rarely got hit as a kid so when i did i knew i seriously fucked up
lusty rampart
spanish moms use the "chola"
desert vector
D:
lusty rampart
that shit hits hard af
desert vector
never again
woeful salmon
indian moms use belts but mine didn't fortunately
lusty rampart
my first tatoo maybe
lusty rampart
indian moms use belts but mine didn't fortunately
ur first tattoo
gilded rivet
@pine depot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_1S77XkiM
desert vector
my mom told me to keep my hand in place and kept smacking the shit out of it D:
woeful salmon
ur first tattoo
would have been ๐
lusty rampart
my mom told me to keep my hand in place and kept smacking the shit out of it D:
bruh ur mom is wild
desert vector
i'd wish that pain upon nobody
lusty rampart
u from india too?
desert vector
no, american-born
oblique ridge
yes he's great
oblique ridge
build a calculator in minecraft
desert vector
why the wrists man :(((
oblique ridge
that was my first real experience
woeful salmon
it used to happen alot
lusty rampart
๐ฎ in india teachers do that
here in spain it was usually used in schools but like when my grandfather was at school
woeful salmon
by the time i got to 10th standard they couldn't do it without a reeeally good reason anymore
or they loose their job
wind raptor
bread was today
desert vector
oh yeah, how was the bread you made last time
wind raptor
here
lusty rampart
huh?
desert vector
sup nimbus @torpid bolt
desert vector
bread 
lusty rampart
but it takes so much time
pine depot
wind raptor
oh yeah, how was the bread you made last time
Last time it did not turn out well. I think I let it cool for too long
woeful salmon
this is not what we got gifted today but its the closest thing i could find
wind raptor
This one from today is amazing!
woeful salmon
its a very big cake-like bread
wind raptor
Like eating clouds
lusty rampart
this is not what we got gifted today but its the closest thing i could find
why does it have like lottus biscoff on top ?
vocal basin
<:pithink:652247559909277706> i just hop between windows and linux depending on ...
most of anything programming-related I do on Linux while using Windows for UI (thanks to VSC remote)
so I end up getting used to random parts of both
lusty rampart
i mean the cookie crumbs
woeful salmon
why does it have like lottus biscoff on top ?
the one i have doesn't but it instead has dryfruits
i found that image off the internet cuz i'm too lazy to take my phone and goto the fridge
oblique ridge
physics stuff
lusty rampart
the one i have doesn't but it instead has dryfruits
i love dryfruits but they are not cheap at all ๐
woeful salmon
true they are expensive
pine depot
oblique ridge
opposite
rugged root
A butt converter?
pine depot
oblique ridge
used inductor for it
woeful salmon
most of anything programming-related I do on Linux while using Windows for UI (t...
i just started dev on windows, switched to linux and felt like it was better developer experience cuz easy to install stuff + vim exists + window managers to replace desktop environments
then windows added winget, i switched to neovim which works just as well on either windows or linux without changing config
so at this point for most things i don't find either os to be more efficient unless its something specialized
woeful salmon
like if its working with .NET i'm going windows 100%
if its working on bun then i'm going linux 100%
lusty rampart
bruh i have 74 messeges and i cant talk :(
oblique ridge
@rugged root favorite thingy is how inductors and capacitors got imaginary resistance
rugged root
Go to the #voice-verification channel and do !voiceverify
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> favorite thingy is how inductors and capacitors got imagina...
Sorry what?
How?
oblique ridge
also capacitor is open circuit and inductor is just straight wire in DC
oblique ridge
Sorry what?
impedance
it's how much current is fought, like resistance, and is measured in ohms
fiber cables make fun cracky noise when you bend them spaghetti
colorful spaghetti
rugged root
If it makes your gums bleed when you chew it, you know it's authentic
oblique ridge
serialization is just transforming data
desert vector
cerealization is just transforming grains into marketable breakfast foods
rugged root
Is pico smaller than nano?
oblique ridge
i'm like very sure i have pics of clients' MDFs that looked like this
desert vector
yes
rugged root
Thanks
oblique ridge
pico is 12 iirc? or is it 15
woeful salmon
@rugged root T-T
desert vector
iirc 15
vocal basin
-12 I think
rugged root
i'm like very sure i have pics of clients' MDFs that looked like this
You laugh but that makes it so much easier to trace what cable goes to where sometimes
oblique ridge
oh pico is 12
vocal basin
-12 I think
then f-something
oblique ridge
nano is 9
desert vector
it is 12, yeah
oblique ridge
cause micro is 6
rugged root
If it's all orderly and packed together, you have to unspool them and it's just a mess
oblique ridge
You laugh but that makes it so much easier to trace what cable goes to where som...
you know what else makes it easy?
LABELS
vocal basin
then f-something
femto
rugged root
I mean sure if you want to be oh god there's a knot in one
rugged root
Nevermind, nuke it from orbit
desert vector
love how the SI units for length just follow the traditional scale and then it's just planck
woeful salmon
hemlock did you see what i pinged you with up there?
woeful salmon
they put it inside a different file
oblique ridge
total internal refraction ftw
woeful salmon
and the proceeded to follow good coding practices by using the if __name__ == "__main__"....
and broke it
rugged root
Laaaaaaame
vocal basin
python -m __hello__
rugged root
Doesn't help if you want to import, though
vocal basin
So they removed it sometime between 3.11.2 and 3.11.6
"you're making me download random python versions again"
import doesn't work in 3.11.0
(doesn't print)
Python 3.11.0 (main, Dec 6 2022, 13:17:12) [GCC 10.2.1 20210110] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import __hello__
>>>
and does on 3.10.13
Python 3.10.13 (main, Nov 1 2023, 14:09:24) [GCC 12.2.0] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import __hello__
Hello world!
>>>
!e ```py
from hello import main
main()
@oblique ridge :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Hello world!
oh, this got introduced only in 2022
rugged root
Oh trust me
desert vector
cool badge how'd you get it
rugged root
I instantly looked at chat
pine depot
when china needs your social credit score
vocal basin
oh, wait, its commands used to be fully unavailable, I think
~50 rather than 500, I'd expect
oblique ridge
which is fair but like
lusty rampart
thats facts
desert vector
no
lusty rampart
can i have admin?
con sus dos cojones gordos
desert vector
:3
oblique ridge
i remember that
lusty rampart
does someone speak something else than english?
desert vector
learning spanish as we speak, though i'm not a good conversationalist at the moment lmao
wind raptor
does someone speak something else than english?
Lots of people do on here. But it's an English only server.
lusty rampart
learning spanish as we speak, though i'm not a good conversationalist at the mom...
so u undestand me if i say to you like hola como estas?
lusty rampart
Lots of people do on here. But it's an English only server.
good to know then
lusty rampart
sรญ, seรฑor
na de locos
vocal basin
~50 rather than 500, I'd expect
allegedly has to do with roles also
lusty rampart
sรญ, seรฑor
thought u were spanish cause ur name xdddd
desert vector
no; I took this name out of respect for an old friend of mine
desert vector
gentle flint
nothing wrong with some wd40 penetration
frank tundra
this is a python server
i joined and i regret my life
why did god do this to me
its worse then hell
but thats fine
๐
wind raptor
Voice channels are off-topic
wind raptor
Usually we do talk shop here, but it does become... this... every now and then
gentle flint
GOD SAVE THEM FROM THERE SINS
*their
whole bear
frank tundra
wtf
whole bear
frank tundra
is he dead or asleep
whole bear
frank tundra
and my wife had a z but she is 6 feet down
wind raptor
G2G for a bit. Cheers all.
whole bear
frank tundra
my bad
whole bear
wind raptor
Maybe try to reign it in a bit.
frank tundra
my therapist told me to not go outside
i am insane
help me
WHY AM I $500 IN DEBT
whole bear
@rugged root are u going to pycon 2024
rugged root
Nah, I don't go to conventions
whole bear
Nah, I don't go to conventions
:/
frank tundra
i was going to go to pi con but i am in debt
gentle flint
do you also have unconventions
frank tundra
my brains is not braining
it went from wd 40 to this
only in texas
gen z being gen z
nimble thorn
gentle flint
this place is confusingly spelled
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scituate,_Massachusetts
whole bear
frank tundra
if my dad was a lawyer i would be in jail for 57 years and 10 days
@nimble thorn is my lawyer
nimble thorn
help
nimble thorn
i feed thim 1 m@m a week
tell me your most favourite galapagos islands animals
frank tundra
Marine Iguana
oblique ridge
~30kph
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @frank tundra until <t:1700513573:f> (10 minutes) (reason: emoji spam - sent 46 emojis).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
rugged root
Aphasia
A language disorder that affects a person's ability to communicate.
It can occur suddenly after a stroke or head injury, or develop slowly from a growing brain tumor or disease.
Aphasia affects a person's ability to express and understand written and spoken language.
Once the underlying cause is treated, the main treatment for aphasia is speech therapy.
oak coyote
what languages do you know?
oblique ridge
python, go, js
rugged root
English.
oak coyote
I was talking about English, Spanish, etc.
rugged root
Various kingdoms of the Angles: Obtuse, Acute, and Right
oblique ridge
the only word i remember when i went to germany was ausfahrt
#trynottogetbannedeverywherechallenge
difficulty: impossible
rugged root
For some people it seems
whole bear
!e print("hi")
wise cargoBOT
@whole bear :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
hi
you correct me but that was the context of my joke
desert vector
whole bear
uwu
oblique ridge
french shouldn't exist
it's simply a bad language
||inb4 i get attacked by frenchies||
whole bear
oblique ridge
the language itself is already meh
and then you have the people
you say that as an english speaker
frank tundra
i am back from the mines
frank tundra
o:
oblique ridge
english ain't easy
there are many other easier languages in many different ways
gentle flint
french shouldn't exist
it's simply a bad language
Que viens-tu te dire?
comment osez-vous!
frank tundra
who?
oblique ridge
i stand by what i said
frank tundra
i am just here
oblique ridge
example of english not being easy
vocal basin
what is the question?
oblique ridge
everyone thinks their own language and is the easiest and best
vocal basin
if no one can answer, there's #data-science-and-ml and other places too
vocal basin
everyone thinks their own language and is the easiest and best
eh
frank tundra
everyone thinks their own language and is the easiest and best
true
oblique ridge
everyone not thinking critically*
frank tundra
depends how you are
vocal basin
Russians are very fond of saying their language is hard to learn
lusty rampart
ร
vocal basin
what have you tried to display the legend so far?
maybe comparing languages by difficulty just doesn't apply to popular enough languages
frank tundra
i think it depends what you grown up with
for example if the grown up reading Spanish books i would think Spanish is easy
vocal basin
does the legend show up?
from plt.legend call I'd expect yes (but not fully?)
plt.scatter call seems to be missing label
rugged root
Interesting that all the troublemakers left at the same time
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
right now it's just fit2, fit3, etc., right?
rugged root
@somber heath Yo
vocal basin
you want math-like form, right?
instead of 'fit4', for example, it would be this:
label='$ae^{bt}+c$'
yes, LaTeX
you'd still have to write it out manually, I think
oblique ridge
it's arabic
vocal basin
you can try automating generating TeX and code from same origin, but not sure how hard it is
oblique ridge
@raw carbon yeah the thing that bothers me a ton about people talking about complexity of languages is that there are counter categories of difficulty.
for example: X language is tough because there are not enough words to express all these different things, so we have to combine them in these ways to express our thoughts and it takes a lot of time.
Y language is tough because there are too many words to memorize and if you don't know a word someone says, you're SOL.
vocal basin
instead of `'fit4'`, for example, it would be this:
```py
label='$ae^{bt}+c$'
``...
first three are easier
'$at^2+bt+c$'
'$at^3+bt+c$'
'$at^3+bt^2+c$'
there are many more examples of that
same with alphabets
sinful phoenix
Thanks @vocal basin ๐ธ
vocal basin
I'm testing in Jupyter too
oblique ridge
@raw carbon this is probably my favorite shitpost
vocal basin
JupyterHub + JupyterLab, but that's hell to set up
there are some repetitive parts
which can be abstracted as a function
higher-order function
(taking another function as an argument)
sinful phoenix
I was expecting the functions would fit better but someone told me that they look just fine.
When I looked some similar examples on internet, it seems like the functions fit better.
vocal basin
ideally, it would just be
fit(func1)
fit(func2)
fit(func3)
fit(func4)
maybe also taking colours as arguments
sinful phoenix
I couldnโt understand how Iโm gonna write the guess better so that the function will fit better
rugged root
Is Spyder still maintained?
oblique ridge
they read RTL not LTR
rugged root
vocal basin
oblique ridge
@whole bear is that not also a problem in LTR?
we can't write infinitely
representation is a non-issue imo
rugged root
Neat
oblique ridge
ููู
oak coyote
what position do you work in, guys? jun/mid/senior/etc? what specialization?
rugged root
This can be helpful for all kinds of data science and data visualization stuff
rugged root
what position do you work in, guys? jun/mid/senior/etc? what specialization?
I'm a hobbyist. I don't code professionally
Saw that, yoon
oblique ridge
mid/senior ig
oak coyote
mid/senior ig
I guess you work as fullstack from python, go, js?
oblique ridge
i'm not currently in web dev
but i'm just SWE with python right now
there's no repetition
1000 600 9 90
oak coyote
i'm not currently in web dev
but i'm just SWE with python right now
what company though if it is not a secret?
oblique ridge
it's not the same
look at the order
ew
why ya do that
yeye ikik
i know some arabic
lol
oblique ridge
<@339491546258997251> this is probably my favorite shitpost
i feel like you'd like this
vocal basin
I'd do something like this
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/2JCA
I'm not sure about what the code actually does
and how well the functions fit
oblique ridge
60 fps > 50 fps
it's just a fact
vocal basin
maybe I'm doing something wrong
oblique ridge
a lot of cameras i've had to install, you've still gotta specific the power frequency whether 60 or 50
vocal basin
yes, that should be the case
oblique ridge
yes
vocal basin
assuming curve_fit is good enough
vocal basin
maybe those functions just can't fit well
vocal basin
maybe I'm doing something wrong
yes, I was
okay, then func1 is good
yeah, func1 fits
oblique ridge
french ruin everything
vocal basin
I'd do something like this
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/2JCA
less broken version
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/4QKQ
guesses influence what local minimum the fit procedure ends up in
if there's only one such minimum, then all guesses are equivalent
this seems good enough for the functions
I wouldn't really expect it to work much better
since the data is kind of messy
oblique ridge
@whole bear i love that cause you wrote something canon
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> i love that cause you wrote something canon
at least there's that haha
vocal basin
you can also just make the function more complex
it may also depend on the "cost" function used
as in how you measure how well the function fits
idk if curve_fit has it
@raw carbon exactly that word ๐
@sinful phoenix if you need an example of a function that does depend on guesses:
def func5(t,a,b,c):
r"""$a\left|t-b\right|+c$"""
y=a*np.abs(t - b)+c
return y
[0.0,0.0,0.0] and [0.0,8.0,0.0] as guesses
Ring as almost Field
oblique ridge
@whole bear how old are you if you dont mind me asking?
oblique ridge
also don't remember if i learned laplace transforms in calc
i likely did in my physics classes
whole bear
<@456226577798135808> how old are you if you dont mind me asking?
let's just say I finished high school around the time smartphones became a thing haha
oblique ridge
let's just say I finished high school around the time smartphones became a thing...
ah always assumed you were younger
vocal basin
no;
docker docker docker only docker
woeful salmon
i mean docker takes more setup so its probably slower
unless you're just installing in a docker container which is already there
whatever works for you though
๐ i just wanted to mention it
vocal basin
"I will make a 50-stage (individual images) dockerfile, I will destroy the disk space"
I think I've only had just over 20 so far
vocal basin
<@733989716067614781> if you need an example of a function that *does* depend on...
trying to visualise how optimal the solutions are over the three parameters
purple is locally optimal, and that's where one of guesses ends up
there's a gap between it and yellow (true optimal) region
due to how curve_fit works, that gap is unlikely to be crossed
vocal basin
trying to visualise how optimal the solutions are over the three parameters
probably a better view
or rather this
that hard to notice sphere representing a fake minimum
whole bear
ah always assumed you were younger
maybe I keep a mysterious shrouded canvas in my basement
also silly me had just skimmed through the wiki page for the towers of hanoi puzzle (I'm trying to develop it as much as I can independently and then look for resources). on a careful reading, it turns out that my solution is not that of the wiki. it also works based on binary representations, but it's quite different. what it does is that it simulates the recursive solution but without using recursion. instead, it just uses binary arithmetic to represent the recursive calls as they branch out through the algorithm's execution
so what I have may be at least less common to find than the wiki page. haven't found it anywhere else yet, although I am sure it has been recorded somewhere. or, what I suspect is that it's just a small variant on a more general method. I think I can see how this could be applied to similar cases involving recursion
but at least it seems that I have something to show that is not right off the wiki page. also, don't worry if this is tl;dr, just putting it there in case you felt like finding out more about the story
oblique ridge
share solution? ๐ @whole bear
whole bear
share solution? ๐ <@456226577798135808>
just let me translate it into python haha, I wrote it in C. I'll have it soon
vocal basin
it's not
typical csgo
(I actually don't remember anything like that in recent matches)
Elo?
both on chess.com and on lichess my rating is lower than median on those sites, I think
> Indian language
as if there's a singular one
indigo crag
somber heath
@bitter reef ๐
bitter reef
somber heath
I don't get it, but alrighty then.
vocal basin
ั and ั would be the most easy-to-observe difference
where ua uses ั, ru uses ะธ
where ua uses ะธ, ru uses ั
there's also ั/ั difference, but that's a rare letter in both languages
ua has า
ru has ั
these two aren't related and are rare too
somber heath
@naive raft ๐
naive raft
I PRESS WRONG QAQ
vocal basin
speaking of Russians in Australia, the highest-rated chess player there has very Russian-sounding name (Anton Smirnov)
somber heath
I PRESS WRONG QAQ
Let us call it a happy accident. ๐
vocal basin
as alleged by Russian Wikipedia, ov->off conversion is somehow Polish
somber heath
indigo crag
somber heath
somber heath
@coarse halo ๐
somber heath
@rugged galleon ๐
somber heath
hey whatsup buddy
๐ฅ
๐
somber heath
@polar bear ๐
polar bear
hi
coarse halo
that so much help boy @somber heath
somber heath
@tardy bone ๐
tardy bone
suh dude
coarse halo
security on my foot @indigo crag not problemes just shut the servers if anything go wrong
chatgpt is just a bot boy board members are running on dumbtruck
and sam altmen he is very good guy they are bad
if we want to close ai then also stop using any machine because they do the same thing giving people comfort and saving there time
machine like car computer
ai is not dangerous those people who want to ban are dangerous
who says that ai decreasing the peoples intelligents thats totally wrong its first time peaople are start thinking how we can improve our enviourment like those thing ai can not do
those people who are thinking ai is dangerous those do not know how basics work of ai and machine learning
ai is not gonna make robots by itself
because ai is not able to execute things
in my prospective ai is just a piece of code and its very hard to run it
what is danger in ai i do not understand
there is always someone who do not want to make this enviorment better
these are piece of shittttt
honest hamlet
can anyone help me with a programming assignment involving lists?
coarse halo
every body is talking about danger of ai nobody about what are benefits like in saving time
learning new things
solving problems like hospitle
coarse halo
can anyone help me with a programming assignment involving lists?
give it lets see
honest hamlet
ok hold on
coarse halo
i amused by thing that everyone talking about danger but no one able to give a single danger
and no body talking about ussage but there are lots of ussage
ohh boy that thing just pisses me
elon he is my ideal man like he is got some bad instinct
where is it
ohh hell yeah
nice to talk to you bro time to go and do some work
we will meet soon
you to
minor sage
I have so much to talk about today with hemlock and my normal crew ๐
Turned in my final revision of my cpu sim and i got a 87% so now im rewriting it for fun.
somber heath
Turned in my final revision of my cpu sim and i got a 87% so now im rewriting it...
Better a CPU sim than a seepy ewe sim.
dire quarry
Hi everyone
I finished introductory Python and I wanted to know that for Advanced Python, should I just follow a course under the same name to learn more advanced topics?
Or should I follow in the advanced part of my desired work field, for example, back-end and the concepts and frameworks that are for this field?
dire quarry
<@800806188803293225> what are you intents with ~~my daughter~~ Python
i want to use it for Back-end developing
dire quarry
i want to use it for Back-end developing
@obsidian dragon
somber heath
He may be preoccupied at the moment.
dire quarry
ow ok
naive raft
https://i.imgur.com/qjR5U0y.jpg
This bird you where see
somber heath
This bird you where see
Australia.
naive raft
Wow
somber heath
The wiki article is linked above it.
naive raft
Hah
somber heath
@storm quest ๐
naive raft
So you live in Australia
somber heath
vocal basin
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@whole bear ๐
naive raft
What dinner
stark spruce
i have a bad english sorry
rapid dune
my mic isn't working 
somber heath
my mic isn't working <:KEKhands:936637557272371261>
Boo! Hssss!
It sucks when shit doesn't work.
rapid dune
It sucks when shit doesn't work.
I'm getting more fed up with linux audio by the day
stark spruce
anyway @somber heath are you working on a python project this days
rapid dune
everything just sounds like crap when ur on a call, and this mic problem happens like 50% of the time.
and I just learnt that using both the A2DP sink and HSP/HFP has been a slowwwwww WIP for like 4 yrs now
it's okay but A2DP is just much clearer
yes I'm on the app
voices are fine but if I want say music in the background the music just sounds like it's being recorded from the speakers of a radio and then being played back
rapid dune
I had pulse with default config, except I turned on autoswitch for A2DP/HSP when I join calls, switched to pulse on pipewire yesterday and still sounds the same
alright mic should work now
let me grab my buds and see if those are any better lol
my buds don't work at all
none of the usual fixes worked ๐
somber heath
@rapid dune Sorry to hear that.
rapid dune
<@1031158144795156511> Sorry to hear that.
I doubt you did!
somber heath
Ha!
rapid dune
ok sounds much better with noise supression off but I do have to take long pauses in between words
alright here goes
somber heath
It's still terrible, but I can hear words, now.
serene inlet
hi
dire quarry
i want to use it for Back-end developing
@obsidian dragon
somber heath
@vocal basin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feistel_cipher ๐
obsidian dragon
<@163839418623459330>
hi
vocal basin
I definitely have an implementation of Feistel cipher in Python somewhere
but I don't know what project it was in
vocal basin
there is a project from 2020 just named feistel but it's empty
obsidian dragon
did you see my message?
fo sho, idk python backend
dire quarry
fo sho, idk python backend
ok thanks.
vocal basin
for http just use FastAPI, no courses needed to learn it (the official tutorial covers most of the topics quite well)
obsidian dragon
I am learning node express
vocal basin
node ecosystem generally is leaning more towards "single stack for front-end, back-end and whatever else"
e.g. with next.js
which is, in large part, enabled by using the same language client-side and server-side
afair, python frameworks don't usually go beyond templating in terms of interacting with what the user sees
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
willow gate
opps
vocal basin
I could've won the queen a move earlier
willow gate
is there an undo option
vocal basin
we both missed it, so I'll let it be
willow gate
yep
willow gate
gg
vocal basin
this might be the lowest accuracy I had on this account
stark spruce
hello
vocal basin
average drop in evaluation per move
willow gate
average drop in evaluation per move
okay
boreal raven
Is this a coworking vc or would I be interrupting by joining?
vocal basin
you wouldn't be interrupting since not much is happening
willow gate
Is this a coworking vc or would I be interrupting by joining?
you can join
boreal raven
Cool. I'll just be working on art and coding
vocal basin
!voice for voice verification:
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@obsidian dragon
no clue about outfits
honest hamlet
can someone hhelp me with a problem?
vocal basin
what is the problem?
boreal raven
Hoodie that hasn't been washed in a week and a different color of sweatpants every day @obsidian dragon ?
honest hamlet
STORE = 1
SHOW = 2
SEARCH = 3
HIGHEST_SALARY = 4
HIGHEST_HOURS = 5
QUIT = 6
FILE = "employee_data.csv"
employees = []
employee_data = []
def store_data():
file = open(FILE, "r")
data = file.readlines()
for line in data:
line = line.rstrip('\n')
employee_data = line.split(',')
# Convert hours from string to float and sum them
total_hours = sum(map(float, employee_data[2:7]))
salary = total_hours * float(employee_data[1])
del employee_data[2:7]
employee_data.append(f"${salary:,.2f}")
employees.append(employee_data)
file.close()
store_data()
def show_all(employees):
for employee in employees:
for value in employee:
print(str(value) + ",", end=' ')
print()
show_all(employees)
def search_employee():
search = input("Enter name: ")
file = open(FILE, "r")
data = file.readlines()
for line in data:
line = line.rstrip('\n')
employee_data = line.split(',')
if search in employee_data:
print(employees)
else:
print("Couldnt find")
search_employee(
im trying to make function to search name in a list
vocal basin
!paste
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
use this to send code
vocal basin
im trying to make function to search name in a list
couldn't find print is in wrong place
it must be outside the loop
vocal basin
def search_employee():
...
for line in data:
...
if search in employee_data:
print(employees)
found = True
if not found:
print("Couldn't find")
enumerate maybe?
honest hamlet
my bad i havent learned that term yet
vocal basin
!e
test = ["a2", "b3", "c5", "a7"]
for i, s in enumerate(test):
if "a" in s:
print(i, s)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0 a2
002 | 3 a7
Oopsie
I just gotta send 50 messages then I get speaking privileges
Yeah that's kinda why I messaged in vc 1 cos there was the above convo going on and i didnt wanna interrupt lol
honest hamlet
is the s a search function
boreal raven
Heheh I can always tell a lot about a person from where they recognize my name
vocal basin
!e
```py
test = ["a2", "b3", "c5", "a7"]
for i, s in enumerate(test):
if "a"...
here s is what employee_data is in the original code
boreal raven
Nope that's my actual name, it's just funny hearing what people associate it with
I've heard Celeste the Game, Animal Crossing, Danganronpa and HuniePop
The 'plot'
I mean, its a win-win. You get that AND women
A small price to pay xD
Sorry WHAT
Have you heard of OnlyCans?
That game is hilarious
No no look it up lol
it's so funny
vocal basin
Have you heard of OnlyCans?
"adult content" warning starts with:
boreal raven
HAHA
nothing more inappropriate than food
God damn you Discord gods let me SPEAK
Receives speaking privileges - immediately gets banned
Oh lord
vocal basin
mastodon for me associates only with this thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammutidae
because of how it's named in some languages
boreal raven
Mm yeah I did a bunch of admin work for a big youtube franchise a couple years ago and I saw some things
I get it
You guys get a 3 day week??
We don't celebrate thanksgiving in australia which makes me sad cos I grew up with american parents
Thank you but i just realized my mic is nnot connected lol
hold up
vocal basin
the fact of the push is an emergency
rugged root
@sage grove If you're wondering why you can't talk, check out the #voice-verification channel
willow light
the fact of the push is an emergency
"You revoked our credentials after we posted them in plaintext on Yammer, so we're going to do an emergency prod push RIGHT NOW"
vocal basin
just don't verify so you can always see and mention #voice-verification
dialect
yes
at least looks like so
it's like index.php
on node.js sites
because backwards-compatibility
"jenpy -- renpy for jvm"
is jython still at 2.7?
(there is a plan to move it to python 3)
plan hope
obsidian dragon
sage grove
sage grove
vocal basin
so latest major version is what dropped py2
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
!d os.fork
wise cargoBOT
obsidian dragon
sage grove
obsidian dragon
vocal basin
JPEG
jpg
jpg
obsidian dragon
rugged root
That's magical
trim night
boreal raven
vocal basin
"are vertical tabs allowed?"
vocal basin
"even you wouldn't think of it, thus making you more likely to forget the password"
obsidian dragon
ฯ
wind raptor
\t\n
obsidian dragon
password = DROP * TABLES
vocal basin
bobby tables
everything before java 8 is ancient
everything after java 8 is futuristic
obsidian dragon
I use Java 11
wind raptor
I use Java 21
boreal raven
Internet cut out brb
willow light
I just use kotlin:latest
And Deno. And Python 3.11 because two of my go-to libraries aren't 3.12 ready yet.
vocal basin
use Scala,
specifically the version where XML literals were still a thing
willow light
NO
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
why is it not deprecated even
well, JSON security is basically "don't eval it in JS"
willow light
JSON security is "hope to jod that someone fixes it eventually"
vocal basin
blessed platforms
vocal basin
!d http.server
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
how did I not know this exists
obsidian dragon
anything needs changed?
forgot chading
@wind raptor why is my model lagging to death? it's like I have no gpu
willow light
obsidian dragon
is there a way to check on bios update
vocal basin
are drivers up-to-date?
wind raptor
boreal raven
willow light
Chrome? Meh. Edge is where it's at. Perfect browser for privacy.
vocal basin
I might switch to Firefox at some point
though right now it's mostly driven by chrome having worse performance
willow light
I do use Firefox Developer Edition with Solarized Dark color theme.
My brother is all "Don't use Chrome and Chrome-based browsers, use Brave"
Um....Brave is a Chrome-based browser....
brisk bridge
Hi
vocal basin
we still almost don't have snow here
obsidian dragon
but how do I check for bios update @vocal basin ?
vocal basin
what do motherboard docs say?
obsidian dragon
idk, i bought this like 8 years ago
vocal basin
made by gigabyte or some other company?
obsidian dragon
the gpu?
vocal basin
motherboard
obsidian dragon
asus
vocal basin
motherboard
since you're trying to update bios
generally, the advice for updating bios seems to be:
don't
unless you need to get something the current version doesn't support at all
in which case first identify what that is specifically
I don't remember any serious reason to update other than CPU support
willow gate
Import "pillow" could not be resolved
guys how to fix this the module is already installed
vocal basin
import PIL
willow gate
`import PIL`
done
willow gate
`import PIL`
thanks
vocal basin
pillow is just a more modern implementation of PIL, and as such keeps it as the same import
obsidian dragon
@vocal basin so if it works just ignore it, I was wondering if changing from a 1060 to a 3060 would need anything other than nVidia update
it feels like it don't want to use the gpu
vocal basin
it sometimes disconnects on mute/unmute/deafen/undeafen
for whatever reason
especially after moving from one channel to another
stark spruce
hello guys
sage grove
@whole bear
Saying OOP is bad like saying electricity is overrated. And when in doubt, parameterize? That's like saying when in doubt, make your code a convoluted mess. And bundling globals into structs? Brilliant, because who needs modular and maintainable code anyway? Pure functions? Sure, if you want your code to be as exciting as watching paint dry. Encapsulate at the level of namespaces? Why bother? Let's just throw everything into the global namespace and see what happens. And long functions? Well, that's just a testament to your coding prowess, right? Brilliant advice, truly.
sage grove
OOP is bad: Object-Oriented Programming (OOP) is like a Swiss Army knife for developers. Itโs a tool that, when used correctly, can provide solutions to a multitude of problems. Itโs not inherently bad, itโs just misunderstood!
When in doubt, parameterize: While parameterization can be useful, itโs not always the answer. Itโs like saying, โWhen in doubt, add more salt.โ Sometimes, the dish doesnโt need more salt, it needs a different ingredient!
Bundle globals into structs: This is like suggesting we should put all our eggs in one basket. Sure, it might make carrying them easier, but it also increases the risk of breaking them all at once!
Favor pure functions: While pure functions are great for predictability and testability, theyโre not always practical. Itโs like favoring a diet of only vegetables. Sure, itโs healthy, but sometimes you need a bit of protein!
Encapsulate at the level of namespaces: This is akin to saying, โLetโs put all our belongings in one room.โ It might make things easier to find, but it also makes the room cluttered and difficult to navigate.
Donโt be afraid of long functions: Long functions can be like long speeches. They might contain a lot of information, but they can also be hard to follow and understand. Donโt fear them, but donโt favor them either!
Remember, programming principles are not one-size-fits-all. They are tools in our toolbox, and the key is knowing when and how to use them effectively! ๐
vocal basin
is it AI generated?
whole bear
is it AI generated?
just from the fact that there are no typos, I would say yes
vocal basin
I don't understand how comments on bundling globals into structs and namespace-level encapsulation are so off
pine depot
sage grove
"Imagine you want to build a bong. But you are doing OOP so you need to make sure the bong chamber is easily replaceable. This is annoying because it takes longer to get your bong. But later, when you want to make it an ice bong - you are happy because you took the time upfront to make the chamber easily swappable, so you just plug in your new IceBongChamber implementation of the IBongChamber interface and you are good to go, no need to rewrite any of the other code."
But now we are doing procedural programming without OOP. I don't even know man...
sage grove
@whole bear still feeling like I only see a syntatic difference
Faster is better
Godspeed my guy
get that degree and get the heck out of academia
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412357430186344448/1176535228538441838/vulkanislittlebithard-v0-u1rhiyl4tfub1.png?ex=656f38d1&is=655cc3d1&hm=81560543f4abdced6dbdadcd77c665620cb99a5225fc6b4afc6eaf2aec5760ce&
https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator
languid copper
where do you start when learning a language :?
sage grove
@mild sorrel Ben eater
mild sorrel
whole bear
brb
whole bear
they also have to use it backwards
wise loom
who made this, it's crazy
toxic arch
ai
sage grove
Even Santa is trapped in the Matrix
whole bear
legit had a question lmfao
they say that OpenAI is basically on meltdown rn with all the corporate drama
everyone threatening to quit
you tried bing?
pine depot
you tried bing?
BING lol
pine depot
haha isn't it supposed to run gpt?
no idea tbh, i dont keep up with chatgpt news
somber heath
@gilded forum ๐
somber heath
!voice ๐
wise cargoBOT
gilded forum
yea i need to send 50 messages
minor sage
offically got manjaro installed and all of my addons havnt used linux in a while but figure id switch now
whole bear
tech lead openAI video!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMaBmxSJwY
nova minnow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412357430186344448/1176535228538441838/vu...
no dad,
grave skiff
<@1078001287733461122> ๐
hi
wind raptor
how are you all doing
Good thanks ๐
molten edge
somber heath
!voice ๐
wise cargoBOT
lavish stream
<@1155066412025532566> ๐
hello
umbral spoke
<@447745540982177802> ๐
wass up how are you doing !!!!!!!๐ซ
somber heath
wass up how are you doing !!!!!!!๐ซ
Lurking. Listening. Waiting.
umbral spoke
somber heath
Being completely unominous.
umbral spoke
Lol
regal owl
Hi
foggy osprey
hi
somber heath
@foggy osprey ๐
balmy patrol
hi
somber heath
!voice ๐
wise cargoBOT
woeful salmon
๐ hello ๐
balmy patrol
what is topic of this metting?
is python good for spider web scrapper and what python is better on?
wind raptor
scapy is good and has a spider you can use out of the box
balmy patrol
the basic is verry esy but the hard is what after that
somber heath
@fleet flame๐
fleet flame
Hello
balmy patrol
i start 2 years ago and i was running by many languige like java or c# but now i still use python
but the problem is i cant do evretng on python i can just lerand data sience or machin leraning anyting else the python is slow at
woeful salmon
but the problem is i cant do evretng on python i can just lerand data sience or ...
python is not slow but it is slower compared to lower level / more specialized languages
somber heath
With caveats.
balmy patrol
yeah i agree with that
naive raft
today talking what
balmy patrol
so for starting web scrapper You suggest scrappy and beautifullsoup
foggy osprey
https://youtu.be/guIaCocnNaw?feature=shared
What is this?
balmy patrol
What is this?
100% somting
somber heath
What is this?
There is a game called The Stanley Parable. This is music from it.
@weary ice ๐
balmy patrol
ok?
foggy osprey
There is a game called The Stanley Parable. This is music from it.
Ok
vocal basin
energy conservation should be artificially enforced, I guess?
because floats are floats
balmy patrol
i hardly understand what they talking
rugged root
I get the broad concepts but the more nitty gritty I'm a bit lost
balmy patrol
Yes, but that's what makes programming fun
vocal basin
there might be a way to mark objects as something that needs extra precison to avoid clipping through
(there is such option in a different engine)
((Box2D))
balmy patrol
I get the broad concepts but the more nitty gritty I'm a bit lost
Just learn something from everything and everything from everything!
balmy patrol
there might be a way to mark objects as something that needs extra precison to a...
what are you talking about
what is that
woeful salmon
woeful salmon
what is that
^ this
weary ice
@woeful salmon Do you have a portfolio or do you create content on a social network?
vocal basin
what are you talking about
there is an option in one of 2d physics engines
https://box2d.org/documentation/md__d_1__git_hub_box2d_docs_dynamics.html#autotoc_md63
balmy patrol
there is an option in one of 2d physics engines
<https://box2d.org/documentation...
oh it module for python?
rugged root
C++
rugged root
I keep hearing bout the custom tkinter thing but I haven't looked much into it
balmy patrol
I keep hearing bout the custom tkinter thing but I haven't looked much into it
but i tink c++ better in gui staff right?
rugged root
Depends on the usecase/system
vocal basin
C++ is easier to get catastrophically wrong
balmy patrol
C++ is easier to get catastrophically wrong
what languige your use?
weary ice
What do they specialize in? computer security example...
vocal basin
I try to avoid making native GUIs entirely
weary ice
Iยดm learning english speak more slowly ajjajaj
noble solstice
What do they specialize in? computer security example...
Alisa specialize in almost everything!
rugged root
vocal basin
Alisa specialize in almost everything!
not really
noble solstice
not really
Hii Mate! Hru
rugged root
Wait what?
balmy patrol
I try to avoid making native GUIs entirely
there dart
it more like python and js in same time
and esy for
esy for what?
wise loom
hey wanna talk to me.. ๐ฅฑ
vocal basin
3~4 cores of what
the graph in the corner being CPU usage
weary ice
question xD Is a role necessary to speak?