okay
#voice-chat-text-0
hollow jacinth
vocal basin
C unions? or proper unions?
algebraic types
enum in Rust
actually, structs and enums are both algebraic types
but, as structs are kind of omnipresent, the term is often used for enums specifically
structs are "products"
enums are "sums"
products like cartesian products
!e
from itertools import product
print(*product([1, 2], ['a', 'b']))
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@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
(1, 'a') (1, 'b') (2, 'a') (2, 'b')
!e
from itertools import product
print(*([1, 2] + ['a', 'b']))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 2 a b
all values of struct (digit, character)
vocal basin
<@264054779888533515> :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with r...
all values of union digit|character
yes, that's what actual unions are
some languages allow it
Rust's enums are unions of non-overlapping (tagged) sets
C's unions are unions of possible modes of access to some area of memory
(historically, some languages referred to types as "modes" in that meaning)
as in Result<E, E> isn't just E
!e
from itertools import product
T = {'a', 'b'}
ResultTT = set(product({'Ok'}, T)) | set(product({'Err'}, T))
print(*ResultTT)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
('Ok', 'a') ('Err', 'a') ('Ok', 'b') ('Err', 'b')
after understanding lifetimes, there's still pointer provenance to be learned
@whole bear you know that overhyped partial re-implementation of Python called Mojo?
they allege that they are adding lifetimes and move semantics
"it's not an open-source language, so I don't believe it exists"
Fireship published a video
I think it's literally The Reason why we even know about Mojo
it was a very wrong benchmark
it's online demo, I think
you can apply for trying it out
why are people even forking it
29 commits
187 forks
9.2K stars
wait, why are you comparing trees?
use hashes if you need equality
cosmic bison
struct Wrapper {
x: &i32;
define set(&self, val: &i32) {
self.x = val;
}
}
define indirection(val: &Wrapper) {
val.set(&22);
}
define main() {
w = Wrapper {x: &10};
indirection(&w);
}
generating a more complex structure on top might help
sometimes
(search structure instead of search algorithm)
speaking of Lisp and searching syntax trees,
https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter
but this is for analysis, not for compilation
wasn't navigation weird too
like p, l, r, n or something
I forgot
pnfb
previous
next
forward
backward
last time I used Vim for >1 hour at a time was on android (in termux)
more convenient for me than any other mobile editor
ggdG -- instant code improvement in Vim
whole bear
C-a backspace
vocal basin
@whole bear
"I don't need a linter. I am the linter."?
VS[ Code]'s Ctrl+. is what IDEA uses alt+enter for
iirc, in the regular VS, I have both keybinds configured to that
I have sublime associated to .txt too
or the other way
idk what the proper grammar for that is
interfaces are just better, but...
actually, empty (implementation-wise) abstract classes are mostly equivalent to notion of interfaces both in Python and C++
Python also has typing.Protocol for something between interfaces and traits
formalised duck typing
I should actually check how I implemented the "what variables a syntax node uses" in my language
abandoned, never published
both, I guess
(like Python)
5 months ago I fixed a bug, I think
bytes -----> Parsed ---available variables--> Linked -----------------------values--> Evaluable
<--required variables--- ---index--> Indexed ---values--> Evaluable
it looks so cursed
{
(_div)(_zq)
/(gcd)
(_a)(_b)
/
/
[_a]
/
/
/
[_b]
/
[_a]
[_div]
[second]
[gcd]
/
[_b]
/[_a][_zq]
[YC]
|
_gcd
}
I don't remember what byte code it generates
this is what it gets reduced to
/|_div?|_zq?/|gcd?|_a?|_b?//[_a?///[_b?/[_a?[_div?[second?[gcd?/[_b?/[_a?[_zq?[YC?|_gcd?
though all the special symbols are actually not represented with valid displayable ascii
(normally)
I don't remember when I last started a project when I knew even a half of what's required for it
maybe I'm just estimating it differently
there are way too many nuances for reading/writing files
sharp minnow
- if else branching 2. for and while loops 3. data types - lists, tuples, dicts, strings, ints
vocal basin
@whole bear I suggest PyCharm because it will show you issues with types and, quite importantly, formatting
PyCharm Pro, if you can get it via student license
PyCharm Community otherwise
PyCharm's typecheck is a little weaker than Pyright
first Java code I ever wrote was in notepad.exe too
that was
11 years ago?
whole bear
@vocal basin thank you
vocal basin
*there are way too many nuances for reading/writing files*
social platforms also differ in what they're going to ban you for
quite an important factor for some users
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whole bear
any suggestions for a high end webcam ??
gentle flint
any suggestions for a high end webcam ??
this is something you should Google yourself
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-webcams
but I've done it for you this one time
whole bear
this is something you should Google yourself
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-pick...
i am not sure between elgto face cam and logitech brio
gentle flint
that's a choice only you can make
whole bear
ello
echo garden
hello <@1115110120444133376>
playing red dead redemption two
warped raft
i was not hearing
warped raft
i fixed my audio output
now you can talk
hello
what happened
carry oon
no
hello @lean galleon how are you doing
hello @rugged root , @dry jasper
how are you all doing
whole bear
hie
dry jasper
anschütz
rugged root
how are you all doing
Decent enough.
dry jasper
pallid hazel
late response.. but to the webcams.. i seen apps that let you use your phone as a pc cam.. so if you got old phone.. generally the cams are better anyways then standard webcams..
somber heath
dry jasper
rugged root
gentle flint
hi
can't talk cuz I'm in the train
@errant delta you can use a keyboard and mouse with a phone
I was, today
not at all
just use a usb c hub
and it'll work fine
or it did on my phone anyway, on a Samsung A52S 5G
gentle flint
wtf
umbral glade
gentle flint
yes?
wonky kerning
@rugged root please explain
why does auditwheel lddtree output all its output to STDERR
rugged root
!resources
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rugged root
<@98195144192331776> please explain
why does `auditwheel lddtree` output all its...
I don't know what that is
gentle flint
auditwheel is basically for packaging binary dependencies in a wheel
delvewheel does the same thing on windows for DLLs
it's actually really nice weather here for a change
noble solstice
Hello Guys!
for solving a rubiks cube we need to use dfs or bfs
it's graph problem
Anyone?
noble solstice
I have no words!
woeful salmon
for solving a rubiks cube we need to use dfs or bfs
well the way we humans solve it is by first solving 1 side with the first layer around it solved which is relatively easy to do and then follow it up by looking for patterns and doing specific steps according to the pattern to get the pieces in the right places
and keep doing that until its solved
rugged root
@pine depot Thou hath abandoned me
woeful salmon
and at some point the steps become muscle memory and you just take a glance at the cube and forget about it while your hands do the moves
somber heath
"In the year twenty-five twenty-five..."
rugged root
Only bar graphs would be tall enough to accommodate them
rugged root
If they're very animated, would they be gifraffes?
noble solstice
updated version of graph only accept non duplicate
like set for list
what is the other difference b/w set and list other than duplicate
which is better to use and why?
noble solstice
How do u guys have lot of knowledge how can i also gain
rugged root
Doing this for a lot of time, seeing things where I'm like "Huh, why is that that way" and asking questions just like you are now
woeful salmon
class HashSet:
def __init__(self):
self.limit = 10
self.bucket = [None for _ in range(self.limit)]
def add(self, val):
self.bucket[self.__hash__(val)] = val
def find(self, val):
return self.bucket[self.__hash__(val)] is not None
def __iter__(self):
self.bucket.__iter__()
# bad hash function
def __hash__(self, val):
return sum(ord(char) for char in val) % self.limit
^ just to make sure this is a really bad implementation please don't copy paste
xD
i gotta go now see you guys later @somber heath @rugged root
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noble solstice
What is the easiest developer tool ? that u thing it is easy to built
rugged root
I'm not sure I follow what you mean
noble solstice
I'm not sure I follow what you mean
developer tool likes postman api?etc..
rugged root
I guess it depends on what you're doing. Typically the easiest/most important dev tool is your editor or IDE
Second would be documentation for the language or various libraries you're using...
But yeah, really just depends.
noble solstice
I guess it depends on what you're doing. Typically the easiest/most important d...
but i am asking which is esy to built
rugged root
I don't really have a good answer to that. When it comes to most tools I use, they're already made
vocal basin
iirc, some trees produce more co2 than they consume
vocal basin
Amazon rainforest, including emitters other than trees, is claimed to have co2 production > co2 consumption
plants consume a lot of oxygen, just like any other complex life on Earth
noble solstice
Amazon rainforest, including emitters other than trees, is claimed to have co2 p...
Well Well co2 production > co2 consumption it's real
then why o2 is more than co2 is planet earth?
dry jasper
vocal basin
then why o2 is more than co2 is planet earth?
because that ratio has only recently started being this way
because humans
noble solstice
produce lot of co2
Scientists estimate that roughly half of the oxygen production on Earth comes from the ocean.
vocal basin
and?
vocal basin
ocean consumes just above of what it produces
same for forests and other places
whereas human activity just produces
noble solstice
i think o2 is not a problem on this planet
vocal basin
problem with co2 emissions isn't that o2 will disappear
the issue is that co2 has heavy effect on climate
(theoretically, at least)
@noble copper that fake language?
noble solstice
we can plant more trees
vocal basin
better start sooner
rugged root
Trees take time to grow
noble solstice
Trees take time to grow
that;s why grow trees not plant
vocal basin
actually, in the ocean, seaweed isn't what does most of o2/co2 things
or kelp or algae
this thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatom
though it is algae
noble solstice
can co2 we use as engine
vocal basin
but very non-conventional algae
noble solstice
fuel?
vocal basin
("algae" isn't a proper taxon)
rugged root
Gotcha
vocal basin
can co2 we use as engine
it's already oxidised
co2 is common product of burning stuff
actually
you can use CO2 to emit energy
but at high temperature
but you know what the product is?
CO
probably we don't want that
iirc, it is more stable at high temperatures
noble solstice
population is the biggest factor
vocal basin
if you somehow store it instead of releasing into the air, it might be fine
"but now you have another problem"
noble solstice
and fertility rate is also decrease
In next 100 yrs 7billion+ people died
only few billion people left so quantity of co2 is also decreased after 100 yrs
It's Parker Global warning Hypothesis
vocal basin
I saw near-perfect-triangle cloud once
cursed experience
like, a giant one
ig, that's just how air flows
noble solstice
DO u guys think in next 100yrs earth population decrease
may be less than 4-5billion
noble solstice
Global
vocal basin
100 years -- I'd expect no
noble solstice
Wdym
stark blade
does anybody know how to install C++ build tools on linux?
vocal basin
build tools as VS build tools?
or GCC/Clang?
stark blade
vs build tools
vocal basin
what compiler do you need?
if MSVC, I wouldn't expect it to work
@rugged root yes and that's the problem
rugged root
This is allowed in 3.12
>>> f"This is the playlist: {", ".join([
... 'Take me back to Eden', # My, my, those eyes like fire
... 'Alkaline', # Not acid nor alkaline
... 'Ascensionism' # Take to the broken skies at last
... ])}"
'This is the playlist: Take me back to Eden, Alkaline, Ascensionism'
I like
vocal basin
if you want to compile regular .exe -> compile on windows
you want to compile .exe and are okay with more complex packaging -> g++-mingw-w64
if want to compile for linux -> you don't need vs build tools
Python seems somewhat more strict in how it's organised
object.method being a method call is eh
rugged root
What's wrong with that?
rugged root
screen.clear() doesn't make sense?
vocal basin
without ()
it looks okay in Haskell/F#/etc. because there it actually returns something
it's messages not methods
in some interpretation
so
object.method means "response of object to message method"
rugged root
Ick
vocal basin
-- the convention is to not use it
-- not use parentheses?
-- no, the language
rugged root
HA
vocal basin
every language other than Rust does monads wrong
and Rust is just not sure yet about how it does it
Haskell's classes are a little confusing
but they can be made to work
yes
no that classes
mathematical classes
like traits
rugged root
Goooootcha
vocal basin
Haskell's classes are a little confusing
or way too concise
F#
Monad m usually means that m is a generic over one element
but not necessarily
3 minutes per year
Ada has a spec
Rust doesn't
eh
they have a reference
and std/core docs
vocal basin
they have a reference
Finally, this book is not normative. It may include details that are specific to rustc itself, and should not be taken as a specification for the Rust language. We intend to produce such a book someday, and until then, the reference is the closest thing we have to one.
Algol, introducing lambdas 46 years before Java
actually, wouldn't expect it to be 0
if it's Algol-derived
and old
like
if index type positive, it's 1-based
if index type is non-negative, it's 0-based
I think
not sure if that's actually true
Since you can use any discrete type to index an array, enumeration types are permitted.
I guess that's the thing it's actually about
Ada is 1980
vocal basin
https://learn.adacore.com/courses/intro-to-ada/chapters/arrays.html
first two examples here produce the same result
depsite indices being 1~5 and 11~15
because different types
vocal basin
like enumerate but in reverse
ionic jasper
@rugged root are u familiar with ML ??
rugged root
Not really. I'm aware of it but it's not something I have the brains to look too deep into
vocal basin
enough terms in the polynomial?
monomials
iirc coefficients are multiplied by something like 1/k! to have them more balanced
that'd give [1,1,1,1,1,...] for exp
or [1,0,-1,0,1,0,-1,0,...] for sin
vocal basin
iirc coefficients are multiplied by something like 1/k! to have them more balanc...
because that corresponds to kth derivative
fleet sinew
check dm @rugged root ?
quick cloak
vocal basin
well, at least not in the middle of email
ads, if inserted that way not by the sender, would cause some issues
somber heath
class MyClass:
def __onit__(self):
pass```
torpid tiger
hello
vocal basin
@mortal crystal do you want to be able to send to gmail?
torpid tiger
anyone aware of any java or kotlin library similar to sympy?
is there any way to develop a mobile app that uses the sympy
it cant use the internet
vocal basin
idk what this is but seems adjacent
https://github.com/axkr/symja_android_library
torpid tiger
yeah tried it
not quite as good as sympy
have you used kivy for devloping a mobile app
vocal basin
if kivy runs, I'd expect sympy to run too
torpid tiger
yeah it doesn
vocal basin
may be missing some non-python dependencies
torpid tiger
does
but
does kivy have any limitations to using java or kotlin other than the looks
vocal basin
I'd expect it to be possible to integrate java and python somehow
torpid tiger
i havent used it enough to tell the difference, well i dont even know andriod development using java or kotlin
torpid tiger
I'd expect it to be possible to integrate java and python somehow
i am new to programming so was expecting a little help on that
torpid tiger
I'd expect it to be possible to integrate java and python somehow
the only way i found was hosting the python code on a server and call it
turbid sandal
torpid tiger
but i need the app run without the internet
turbid sandal
Sigma Dg 120-400mm f4.5/5.6 APO HSM (condition new)
frigid panther
halo
vocal basin
funny seeing these side by side
frigid panther
whats up
vocal basin
@rugged root
"ChatGPT, fix this printer"
frigid panther
somber smelt
hello @somber heath
whole bear
Everyone ded?
turbid sandal
whole bear
somber heath
!e py print(*['Hello, world.'] * 5, sep = '\n')For demonstration only.
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@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | Hello, world.
002 | Hello, world.
003 | Hello, world.
004 | Hello, world.
005 | Hello, world.
frozen owl
hello :D
frozen owl
i don't understand why is it called "half precision" and "double precision" lol
whole bear
I need to pint hello world in brainf
frozen owl
sounds so arbitrary
rugged root
somber heath
!d numpy.dtype
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frozen owl
2^32 -1?
whole bear
!d print
frozen owl
is there a unsigned float type
damn
i thought ppl love performance :/
like fast shits
frozen owl
i see
frozen owl
there's float80 in C
woah
frozen owl
i don't exactly how "floating point" is represented in binary
vocal basin
10^10101010101001 x 1.0101010101010
10101010101001 0101010101010
vocal basin
```text
10^10101010101001 x 1.0101010101010
10101010101001 0101010101010
...
(only the general idea)
in binary scientific notation, digit before . is almost always 1, so it just gets dropped
!e
print(b'\x86+O\xb9\x9b'.hex())
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
862b4fb99b
Fleauxtyng poynt presizzeon.
rugged root
@orchid mauve Yo
orchid mauve
hi there
frozen owl
i dont understand why
rugged root
Functionally nothing. But it's pre-allocating those bytes ahead of time
vocal basin
!e
print(b'\x00')
print(b'\0')
print(bytes([0]))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | b'\x00'
002 | b'\x00'
003 | b'\x00'
wait
is this like a heap
vocal basin
just different ways to write it
frozen owl
is this like a heap
like no fixed storage and allocating ahead of time?
frozen owl
is this like a heap
idk in the rust context lol
frozen owl
i see
vocal basin
0 byte is 00000000 in binary
vocal basin
hex binary (big-endian)
\0 00 0000 0000
\xA8 A8 1010 1000
@sour yew Yo
orchid mauve
sour yew
im looking for a solution to a particular problem and theres not many places where
i would be able to find it
anyway
how much time do i have to spend on messaging manually so that i can speak xd
its like 30 min no?
oh aight aight
vocal basin
loops so data has fun during its ride
you can leak data via optic cable if you loop too much, iirc
orchid mauve
sour yew
Btw someone asked about the problem i had and aa,
there is a fantastic (free) extension that is available on chrome its called "voice in speech-to-text". I was trying to find its api or some fetch, requesthtml parts of code that could tell me sth about it, but there's nothing. Reason i'm looking for it is a project where i need to use some external STT api, and i was wandering how in criccets its possible that this extension is free. Like there is no way they dont sell your data
rugged root
Could possibly packet sniff
sour yew
it is literally transcribes what you say real time to text for free virtually
rugged root
See where they're going to and from
dry jasper
rugged root
It looks like a little dude holding it
vocal basin
sour yew
okay so, it seems the app functions but doesn't transcribe offline so
there is some connection obv
anyway i was able to see when while transcribing the software sends requests somewhere
but particular code responsible is in some damn hierogliphs xd
vocal basin
if it's an extension, it's likely webpacked
not even necessarily obfuscated
(like, unintentionally obfuscated)
orchid mauve
vocal basin
- dotdot
- it's Microsoft, they should've known better
sour yew
there is a fantastic (free) extension that is available on chrome its called "vo...
btw about selling your data part
how often do you think it happens
orchid mauve
vocal basin
frequency isn't the question, the volume is
sour yew
yeah exactly
whole bear
Making a like mdos wdyt guys
sour yew
like its 15 dollars per hour PER USER for using stt for 20 hours
thats insane
it means the data they gather with this extension is worth quite some sum
there was this app which conducted ddos attack on turkey and some places i watched some vid on yt
sour yew
there was this app which conducted ddos attack on turkey and some places i watch...
the thing is this app was reviewed fantastically
4.7 stars sth
many i dont remember the exact name but its in millions man
some youtuber from cybersecurity space made a vid about it
orchid mauve
sour yew
whats with your obsession of rekt computers coast xD
i see
kind of beyond tech support though here
right
orchid mauve
sour yew
just install some water cooling
orchid mauve
sour yew
what is the most complicated/interesting project you have ever done guys?
frozen owl
specs?
rugged root
@sour yew You can verify now. Go to #voice-verification and do !voiceverify. You'll have to disconnect/reconnect from the call for the permission to kick in
small parrot
frozen owl
here
whole bear
what is the most complicated/interesting project you have ever done guys?
Making a pass gen with pwned checker using haveibeenpwned api and using hashlib or a phpmyadmin with a sub services with login css and reg and sub check
frozen owl
rugged root
b'Hello World!'
starnge
sour yew
b'\xff\xf8\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00'
rugged root
!e
ham = "spam"
pork = b"spam"
print(ham == pork)
beef = ham.encode('ASCII')
print(pork == beef)
@rugged root :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | False
002 | True
see ya
cosmic bison
lifetime coupling!
frozen owl
SELECT * LIMIT (?,?)
torch.tensor objects
but like
idk if i turn into str can i revert to obj
vocal basin
!d queue.Queue
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vocal basin
!d multiprocessing.Queue
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vocal basin
!d asyncio.Queue
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vocal basin
there are three
vocal basin
this should be in threading.Queue
vocal basin
this is to share between multiple python interpeters
i.e. if you're using multiprocessing module
are you using threading?
how many threads are putting elements into the queue?
and how many are consuming
single producer single consumer is simplest to think about, because it has deterministic order
order, which objects are returned in, is mostly the same as the order in which they're pushed
except for edge cases, when multiple threads push at the same time or multiple threads pull at the same time
under 5ms
5ms is default context-switching delay
if timeout runs out, it's the same as if no get happened at all, in terms of preserving order
vocal basin
this one is simpler to handle, because it doesn't create extra threads
and, until GIL is removed, it has better performance characteristics
is it CPU-intensive? or IO-bound?
are you using requests?
there's httpx and aiohttp
httpx works both for sync and async
I've only used aiohttp; it's good enough most of the time
discord.py is built on top of aiohttp
it was never even close to being a performance bottleneck for what I was doing
vocal basin
httpx mostly behaves like requests
aiohttp is in its own isolated world
(aiohttp works for server side too, and there it doesn't have any form of ASGI compatibility, at least out-of-the-box)
gentle flint
aiohttp is pretty similar to requests as well
vocal basin
httpx and aiohttp[ 's doc writers] seem to have a little different view on what "default" way of structuring response handling is
aiohttp docs using more of async with response: rather than plain await response
austere lava
image -> neural network -> inputs
learning a mapping:
image -> inputs
stimulus -> response
but in what way would httpx be more similar to requests
vocal basin
but in what way would httpx be more similar to requests
it aims to be similar to requests
sync httpx code is mostly same as requests code
gentle flint
I'm fully aware of that
read my question
in what way is httpx more similar to requests
than aiohttp
vocal basin
at least, aiohttp is async-only
gentle flint
is that all?
upper arch
!paste
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gentle flint
`httpx` mostly behaves like `requests`
`aiohttp` is in its own isolated world
seems a bit of a stretch to make this statement based on that
gentle flint
hmmm
vocal basin
is that all?
most of other differences are just naming, I think
dry jasper
@vocal basin thank you so much for pointing me toward the right directions
the way i have it implemented now
the way i am about it implement it
vocal basin
It gives me an error saying 'Template "/" not found
likely, this should be a file path, not a folder path
also, you're pointing to the root of the file system, which I wouldn't expect to be a valid html template
is that flask/django/something else?
vocal basin
also, you're pointing to the root of the file system, which I wouldn't expect to...
... if that gets interpreted by the function/method as a file path
upper arch
A discord multi-purpose bot
drowsy lark
oh thats cool
continue...
can you add a discord game in the bot
do you know how to do that ?
upper arch
no I dont
cosmic bison
cosmic bison
'!expr SUB|SUM expr'
fossil notch
cosmic bison
paper karma
https://www.gnuradio.org/about/ @whole bear
hollow forge
hello
whole bear
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
RICHARD DAWKINS, THE GOD DELUSION P.31.
tulip plover
Hello @mellow lark
tulip plover
you have to be in the discord for at least 3 day and send 50 text in chat
@mellow lark
somber heath
how to on mic
!voice
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
Ah sorry. I didn't know
Yeah xD.
Basically I am starting my python journey and planning to learn web scarpping
Scrapy?
somber heath
@brave mica 👋
whole bear
It's a bummer I can't speak xD. Gotta meet the criteria soon.
yeah. Considering the sheer number of members it's a necessary evil.
somber heath
!voice @brave mica 😁
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
I clean installed like 3 days ago xD
whole bear
If you've been a long time windows user switching to Linux is going to really annoying at first
Imma go now. Gotta study for my exams
gentle flint
If you've been a long time windows user switching to Linux is going to really an...
vice versa too
somber heath
wise cargoBOT
obsidian dragon
bitter osprey
hey i can't speak
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
@opaque karma 👋
opaque karma
somber heath
@bold mica 👋
stoic chasm
warm snow
You're using what?
warm snow
Wow
somber heath
@echo garden Was that at me?
echo garden
<@1115110120444133376> Was that at me?
yes, i apologize if i talk over someone i do not hear him.
somber heath
yes, i apologize if i talk over someone i do not hear him.
I understand.
echo garden
<@1115110120444133376> Was that at me?
anyhow, how have you been lately.. i had a old friend show up the other day, from another state it was his first time here
somber heath
I'm under stress. Not exactly uncharted waters. 😁
short tree
Hello all 😄
stoic chasm
too many people. got scared
echo garden
I'm under stress. Not exactly uncharted waters. 😁
stress? she aviable later?
somber heath
@slow venture 👋
slow venture
<@241896476077195266> 👋
HEY OPALL!!!
been agesss
I got my marks for 1st semester
short tree
I got my marks for 1st semester
Nice! How did you do?
slow venture
Nice! How did you do?
Thank youuu
I got deans award so pretty happy with the result
somber heath
Woo
slow venture
yayayaya thanks guys!
whole bear
congrats !!
somber heath
stress? she aviable later?
I suspect our tastes differ.
slow venture
hows everyone going?
echo garden
I suspect our tastes differ.
i suspect the suspcisons are suspect to be assumed as such?
short tree
I got deans award so pretty happy with the result
Whoa!! Awesome job!
slow venture
Whoa!! Awesome job!
thank youuu still got a long way to go
short tree
thank youuu still got a long way to go
How long is your program?
short tree
You got this!
echo garden
which is why i type
slow venture
You got this!
dry jasper
echo garden
somber heath
@median lantern 👋
echo garden
@somber heath when things go over my head i usually let people know that it i did, if i resort to joke it usally an indication that i compeletely understood and possibly understand you need to keep it afloat in context with no basis of actually saying something that needn't be said understood as gentelmen. im generally an individual that needs little input to get the point of the whole picture.
yes
i have i
im plutted state right now
can't spell when i type quick most times
median lantern
Hi
echo garden
right
obsidian dragon
I'm sorry, but it seems like "plutted" might be a typo or a term not widely recognized. Could you please provide more context or check the spelling? I'll be happy to help if I understand what you're referring to.
echo garden
dude this stuff has put me on cinshaw
crinshaw
my brain is in the hood but my body is telling my brain chill
median lantern
Hey please guide me guys I’m a beginner in django
somber heath
Hey please guide me guys I’m a beginner in django
You may be well served by asking around in the #web-development channel. You may also like to look to the #❓｜how-to-get-help channel. 🙂
slate light
sour yew
syalater
whole bear
oh thanks @obsidian dragon
wind raptor
https://revolutionjewelry.com/collections/superconductor-rings
these are sweeeet!
dry jasper
that looks straight out of jurassic park
obsidian dragon
... fog is clowds?>
whole bear
... fog is clowds?>
but maybe its about at what height you are
radiant orbit
<@896519510708871199> 👋
Hi everyone. I have no microphone
rugged root
... fog is clowds?>
Yes, fog is just low to the ground clouds
pallid hazel
or vapers
rugged root
"Why does the fog smell like tootie-fruity?"
rugged root
Ah yes, the gum that tastes good for 2 chews
Then right after that, disappointment
@wind raptor halp
Excel why
rugged root
It's a consolidation sheet
somber heath
It's a consolidation sheet
There there.
dry jasper
@sly yarrow 👋 hi
whole bear
Welp please
rugged root
@molten pewter Sup
molten pewter
Sup
somber heath
warm snow
Is Voice Chat 0 always this active?
rugged root
Comes and goes
Sorry I'm going to be a bit. Talking with the accountant that is working on this account to try and get these reports generated properly
rugged root
"Come sit at this table. I dare you."
molten pewter
it was surprisingly clean for having cats on the tables.
rugged root
I'm sure they clean it on the regular
cerulean ridge
@rugged root change server or something?
cerulean ridge
Sorry I didn't realize
nw, fixed now
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
@tepid edge list/tuples have quite a lot of fundamental/semantical differences that can make that question difficult
I'd place typing above immutability for tuples (because immutability for tuples is python's thing, not general)
lists are expected to store objects of same type
tuples aren't
as in you don't expect different thing type-wise based on index
example: list[object] = [1, "2"]
# not okay for lists:
print(example[0].bit_length())
print(len(example[1]))
should be no collisions little number of collisions per hash
worst case for insertion is O(N) even with perfect hash condition
because resizing
amortized is O(1)
@dry jasper only at CPU level
no one predicts what will while do in high-level code
high-level code being machine code here (and above)
whole bear
Rate this out of 0 to 💀 Discover the next-gen of worst experience of pyOS – an OS with Python, blurring the lines between functionality and simplicity with new useless features that if you look into abyss of code you will have more questions than you start off.
vocal basin
most of linux now qualifies as OS with Python, given it's pre-installed often
vocal basin
no one predicts what will `while` do in high-level code
optimising compilers can, very rarely, do that, but normally not many steps ahead
tepid edge
rugged root
x = 0
while x < 5:
x += 1
for y in range(5):
pass
problem with predicting both while and for loops is that it usually involves mutability to calculate
but CPU will do that anyway because it doesn't know what's right and what's wrong
at least it will throw away what's wrong when it finds out
all my ctf experience, as far as ctftime says
whole bear
I installed kali linux on my pc without a vm
vocal basin
XSS isn't what its name says, generally
it commonly referes to code injection
not necessarily involving any extra sites
rugged root
I'm guessing it's the compairson that slows it down
vocal basin
whereas actual cross-site scripting is thing that many companies use regularly
but now that tends to go away, because it's a security hole
"what if closest fruit requires permit to cross the border"
"no, that's a no-zeppelin zone"
time to make AI write this again, but now about "like"
https://gist.github.com/afeistel/abf736d0d93c5b0579f20d788c206839
@rugged root
I didn't even ask it to do this
rugged root
Oh dear god
vocal basin
okay, so what I tried to do failed
(I tried to make it add ", like," in each sentence)
molten pewter
rugged root
Oh yeah, passed away in 2015. Back in a sec
vocal basin
@dusky lynx can't get passwords from the DB, normally
because requires a key to decrypt that the DB doesn't store
... if done correctly
@dusky lynx password managers don't know your passwords
that's The Reason why they are viable at all
that's why, for example, passwords.google.com is not a password manager
if you don't want someone else to see the contents of what you store, encrypt
you can't really undercut Amazon
your only hope is deploying somewhere Amazon is inaccessible
containers rather than VMs, for cheaper
Russia, Belarus, China, North Korea
@rugged root "now you're fixing printers all over the CDN offices"
at least you get to fly to wherever the hell the next data centre gets deployed
vocal basin
you can't really undercut Amazon
for smaller amounts, you might get a chance by using better but less accessible hardware
(because Amazon is less likely to bother; they might as well just wait until you figure it out so they can consume your company)
iirc, CPUs even without superconductors are already nearly hitting limits that even superconductors would face
(speed of light stuff)
it's property of space, speed beyond that is just undefined
rugged root
Interesting
vocal basin
@rugged tundra half life just corresponds to probability
particle doesn't store how long it's lived for
entanglement can be perceived as information travelling beyond speed of light
rugged root
Interesting
vocal basin
if you change frames of referrence properly, it can even be perceived as information travelling back in time
@rugged root opposite
it got proved
quite early
"spooky action at a distance" is a special case of decoherence
decoherence being observation/reduction of entanglement
rugged root
Gotcha
vocal basin
that's not a regular "bell curve"
because you can't go under 0 seconds
(which normal distribution would do)
some sources claim that entanglement has been shown to work at over 1'200km
make entangled pair
distribute it
poke it to see what it contains
collect values in one place
if you poke it before distributing, then poke again after, data turns out differently, because cursed quantum maths
vocal basin
never was suitable
quantum mechanics also predicts some things to travel back in time
but that has zero actual effect
even if it contributes to results, theoretically
rugged root
Because it already has happened, right?
vocal basin
you can't extract information, even if mathematically it is transferred
"too blurry" in a sense
rugged root
Gotcha
vocal basin
another reason why quantum maths is cursed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem
^ how entanglement allows to "cheat" maths without any data transfer
rugged root
Gotta love it
vocal basin
there was a video with a car's cam warning the driver about traffic lights
traffic lights on a truck that was delivering them somewhere
rugged root
That's amazing
gentle flint
here we go again with the "I can't think of anything" supper
rugged root
Better than what I would do
"Eh, fuck it, guess I'm not going to bother eating then."
vocal basin
why is everything red
scarlet halo
thats just my background
vocal basin
why is everything red
gentle flint
"Eh, fuck it, guess I'm not going to bother eating then."
that's not a luxury I can afford
rugged root
!source
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
gentle flint
tis done
wispy belfry
Bon appetite
gentle flint
thx
vocal basin
getting attacked by insects
why are there so many
gentle flint
they're obviously dominant
vocal basin
at least spiders have something to eat
wispy belfry
buy uv lamp 10$
vocal basin
spiders better than insects, they're allowed to live
upper arch
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/realcraft
@scarlet halo
Thats what im looking at
scarlet halo
Spelis123
upper arch
upper arch
im working on the same bot
supple crater
upper arch
ye
anyone willing to help me with my music module?
it downloads files as .webm succesfully and isnt giving me any errors but for some reason still wont play in the vc
!paste
wise cargoBOT
upper arch
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/BUEA
Theres the code
upper arch
no
wise cargoBOT
upper arch
sacred crag
It's very heavily based on javascript
upper arch
[generic] Extracting URL: https://rr5---sn-qxoednee.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?expire=1691745872&ei=8KnVZOCoL_2nlu8PhqO_...nNJjoQlwPc938Q%3D%3D
[generic] videoplayback?expire=1691745872&ei=8KnVZOCoL_2nlu8PhqO_4AM&ip=35.225.93.9&id=o-ANGq52nghp1TuDmDk8cq6WPKiU6QBaxyn8jqudSvZ6DI&itag=251&source=youtube&requiressl=yes&mh=N4&mm=31,26&mn=sn-qxoednee,sn-5goeenes&ms=au,onr&mv=u&mvi=5&pl=22&spc=UWF9f35C5F_XbJvTjMLvfYqOcmBDhBo&vprv=1&svpuc=1&mime=audio/webm&gir=yes&clen=3348634&dur=222: Downloading webpage
[info] videoplayback?expire=1691745872&ei=8KnVZOCoL_2nlu8PhqO_4AM&ip=35.225.93.9&id=o-ANGq52nghp1TuDmDk8cq6WPKiU6QBaxyn8jqudSvZ6DI&itag=251&source=youtube&requiressl=yes&mh=N4&mm=31,26&mn=sn-qxoednee,sn-5goeenes&ms=au,onr&mv=u&mvi=5&pl=22&spc=UWF9f35C5F_XbJvTjMLvfYqOcmBDhBo&vprv=1&svpuc=1&mime=audio/webm&gir=yes&clen=3348634&dur=222: Downloading 1 format(s): fwebm
ERROR: unable to open for writing: [Errno 36] File name too long: 'videoplayback [videoplayback？expire=1691745872&ei=8KnVZOCoL_2nlu8PhqO_4AM&ip=35.225.93.9&id=o-ANGq52nghp1TuDmDk8cq6WPKiU6QBaxyn8jqudSvZ6DI&itag=251&source=youtube&requiressl=yes&mh=N4&mm=31,26&mn=sn-qxoednee,sn-5goeenes&ms=au,onr&mv=u&mvi=5&pl=22&spc=UWF9f35C5F_XbJvTjMLvfYqOcmBDhBo&vprv=1&svpuc=1&mime=audio⧸webm&gir=yes&clen=3348634&dur=222].unknown_video.part'
sacred crag
seeing as I can't talk is anyone able to help me. My python environment is totally messed up, I'm using WSL
somber heath
seeing as I can't talk is anyone able to help me. My python environment is total...
!voice
wise cargoBOT
upper arch
somber heath
@sacred crag #❓｜how-to-get-help if nobody here is in a position to help.
sacred crag
<@509068093398450190> <#704250143020417084> if nobody here is in a position to h...
TX! will try
somber heath
@boreal ocean 👋
upper arch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-PJmmvyP10
Thats the video I downloaded
unborn storm
@somber heath about your description : "An educated world rewards everyone".
Could you develop more ?
somber heath
@minor elm 👋
minor elm
Heyy
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
minor elm
haha
Thanks
Sorry I'm new
Slither
In
Nah
yeah
I'm trying to learn Pyton
Python
Are you Guru?
Are there jobs?
How many years have you been programming in Python?
Can I be your student?
Thoughts on Code Bro?
He does YT tutorials
unborn storm
corey schafer
minor elm
Is he good?
These are my current
That's I'm getting into
I do 1 hour per day
I work full time
so can only do 1 hour
Thanks man
I really do apcicate the advice ❤️
mmmmmmm
I use onenote
I also comment what things do
This is where i am at so far
I understand these concepts well
YESSSS
That's what I need
Can you link
one '?
Do you load in vs code?
no
ahh
Like mark up
hahah
minor elm
I have it now
Just Installed it
Thanks
Yeah for sure
Whats a fun project to start with?
Yeah I can do that
Can I do Spicy Role play games haha?
What have you made with Python
like what are your proudest moments?
unborn storm
well
minor elm
Do you do it for a job?
unborn storm
I am not that good with python
unborn storm
Do you do it for a job?
well i'm a student
but i have like an intermediate-low level in python
i have been making a snake game (runs in the command line)
unborn storm
and also a few cellular automaton
minor elm
Can you send without comments?
unborn storm
Can you send without comments?
XD
minor elm
And I can try figure out how it works?
unborn storm
i don't think there is too much comments
but you need to run it in a unix-like shell
git bash would work
unborn storm
And I can try figure out how it works?
the problem is that it uses concepts you have not yet seen, especially object-oriented programming. I recon you come back to it after you learned that.
boreal ocean
<@456959727952199682> 👋
👋
minor elm
Thanks man!
unborn storm
Can you add me as a friend?
ok, but you must know that DMs is not really accepted in discord servers. Especially since, in a public chat, everyone can answer, so you get faster and more diverse answers.
so I encourage you to use the dedicated channels for help.
some don't like DMs, partly because trolls abuse it, but also because people can be annoying, keeping asking questions as if you were google.
but if it is a real question, i'm always happy to answer
i mean you better just ask like you just did ^_^
sacred crag
If I may join the conversation...
I am totally new to python Come more from a PHP background
For now just saying hi
unborn storm
hi
minor elm
Hey Ye
Thanks Oskar
Yeah I'll only message you about serious stuff (Project Ideas)
Good to build a network
I will remmeber your help and be just as helpful when I'm a guru teaching
sacred crag
@unborn storm Seeing as it's just us what are you up to
i'm currently working on a large translation project. Hoping to use A carefully engineered prompt to use the Microsoft custom translator api
unborn storm
I will remmeber your help and be just as helpful when I'm a guru teaching
XD i'm not a guru at all, but thanks
unborn storm
Yeah I'll only message you about serious stuff (Project Ideas)
I believe you are intelligent enough, I was just explaining the reason
unborn storm
<@696634651875213322> Seeing as it's just us what are you up to
i'm currently ...
nice
minor elm
Allgoods man, You can ask me too
sacred crag
Allgoods man, You can ask me too
sorry. I didn't realise you were still here.
Hi @vivid jacinth
yes
It's a complicated topic It's generally advised to provide between 3000 and 5000 question and answer sets
Do you wanna share your screen and demo the example
ah that's O K
sacred crag
ah. thanks @somber heath
Sorry I didn't quite catch that
ah 👍
Always gonna be one genius
@somber heath i'm trying to tell on your accent where you're from. am I right to assume Australia/NZ
BLUEY!!!
It's apparently Australia's biggest cultural export.
I have tickets for the premiere of the live show in London. i'm a massive Bluey fan
whole bear
PyOs worst os out their
sacred crag
it's a theater production https://events.bluey.tv/
now back to JSON parsing
I'm just setting up the script.
somber heath
@rocky pebble @graceful dirge 👋
graceful dirge
Oh, hello.
whole bear
Whats the best ide for python?
rocky pebble
Oh, hello.
hi
sacred crag
I use VS Code. seems popular
whole bear
Ok thx
sacred crag
what's your environment. What OS are you running it on. Do you work locally or on a remote server