#voice-chat-text-0
rugged root
vocal basin
rows?
maiden skiff
Too bored
vocal basin
https://github.com/omnilib/aiosqlite
though, arguably, asyncio enable some less-than-reliable patterns
it's probably best to have per DB:
exactly one task
exactly one connection
gentle flint
https://github.com/omnilib/aiosqlite
I used that for the disgusting threading project
lol
vocal basin
though, arguably, asyncio enable some less-than-reliable patterns
because shared memory go brrr**crash**
woeful wyvern
it's probably best to have per DB:
exactly one task
exactly one connection
So tl;dr
If you can separate them, you should
gentle flint
So tl;dr
If you can separate them, you should
but I used file locks to avoid this problem
vocal basin
So tl;dr
If you can separate them, you should
yes
avoid locking
use queues/messages instead
vocal basin
use queues/messages instead
at that point you just have one task accessing one db anyway
vocal basin
because shared memory go brrr*\*crash\**
asyncio allows "safe" shared memory
but relying on shared memory is sometimes very not good
vocal basin
asyncio allows "safe" shared memory
but relying on shared memory is *sometimes* ...
Erlang philosophy says that "sometimes" there is "always"
such a flex
https://www.sqlite.org/fasterthanfs.html
> 35% Faster Than The Filesystem
rugged root
There's caveats there
vocal basin
@woeful wyvern is the thing server-side or desktop?
vocal basin
\> 35% Faster Than The Filesystem
for blobs
full write, full read
on some filesystems
with some configs
vocal basin
such a flex
https://www.sqlite.org/fasterthanfs.html
this benefits from reducing the file metadata cost
that's probably all that it is
OS has caching and stuff for FS
I know
vocal basin
for blobs
full write, full read
this
woeful wyvern
<@545124905214017536> is the thing server-side or desktop?
Both? Supposed to be able to run anywhere, locally or server. Only the machine itself will make writes though. Inputs to the program have no direct correlation to writes
vocal basin
oh, so, "embedded" in the same sense as sqlite is
vocal basin
OS has caching and stuff for FS
ARC of illumos+ZFS just uses almost everything it can
vocal basin
such a flex
https://www.sqlite.org/fasterthanfs.html
that's why "flex" but not a reliable one
vocal basin
ARC of illumos+ZFS just uses almost everything it can
there was a bug where it went too hard and starts causing routes to get dropped
vocal basin
this benefits from reducing the file metadata cost
that's probably all that it i...
you want a file => use files
you want a str->bytes dictionary => there might be better ways than using files per key
woeful salmon
i'm gonna go now as there's alot of movies to watch ig see you guys later 🙂
vocal basin
Both? Supposed to be able to run anywhere, locally or server. Only the machine i...
maybe abstract the data storage from the rest of the app?
@woeful wyvern on low-level it's mostly just matrix things
which can be optimised
rugged root
vocal basin
"if matrix movie was so good, why don't they release tensor movie?"
Rust's interoperability with C might be good, but often it's not worth introducing an extra non-uniformity into the code base
if you have to cross the boundary in thousands of different places, then why have that boundary in the first place
rugged root
True
vocal basin
if you have to cross the boundary in thousands of different places, then why hav...
"now take that out of context and apply to some political stuff/country borders"
35%-Faster-Than-The-Filesystem-ism is a religion now
somber heath
Seek well light.
rugged root
limpid umbra
twilight zone
vocal basin
if you have to cross the boundary in thousands of different places, then why hav...
I should've auto-generated it instead
to train making .drawio diagrams
pulsar island
@receiver(post_save, sender=Event)
def post_save_event(sender, **kwarts):
<logic statement, in form of IF loop>
return ?
13 "hmmm yes I will definitely survive if I follow that"
vocal basin
```python
@receiver(post_save, sender=Event)
def post_save_event(sender, **kwart...
what libraries if any?
vocal basin
13 "hmmm yes I will definitely survive if I follow that"
number 16 is too easy to make a joke of
limpid umbra
are they tricking you into making code for them
vocal basin
yes they do
limpid umbra
so .. use a laptop with encrypted drive .. and show them in person , then demo
vocal basin
rather just host it without sending the code
limpid umbra
ya a virtual interview thingy
vocal basin
rather just host it without sending the code
(rather than bringing anything)
limpid umbra
mmm - would they pull the ... ohh that code is on our property we own it
vocal basin
Django Signals thing sounds to me for some reason
@lavish rover there's also style, configurability, etc.
that shows too
molten pewter
Will be on later after the Gym.
rugged root
Say hi to gym for me
limpid umbra
can you do a virtual whiteboard ? then interviewer presents a problem , then you step a basic flowchart of how to solve it
slowly piece it together in front of them
vocal basin
https://themonadreader.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/fizzbuzz.pdf
!e
# I'm not sorry
from typing import Callable
def compose(*functions):
def composed(x):
for f in reversed(functions):
x = f(x)
return x
return composed
def fizzbuzz(n: int) -> str:
def test(d: int, s: str) -> Callable[[Callable[[str], str]], Callable[[str], str]]:
def tmp(x: Callable[[str], str]) -> Callable[[str], str]:
if n % d:
return x
else:
return lambda _: s + x("")
return tmp
return compose(
test(3, "Fizz"),
test(5, "Buzz"),
)(lambda x: x)(str(n))
print(*map(fizzbuzz, range(1, 101)))
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 2 Fizz 4 Buzz Fizz 7 8 Fizz Buzz 11 Fizz 13 14 FizzBuzz 16 17 Fizz 19 Buzz Fizz 22 23 Fizz Buzz 26 Fizz 28 29 FizzBuzz 31 32 Fizz 34 Buzz Fizz 37 38 Fizz Buzz 41 Fizz 43 44 FizzBuzz 46 47 Fizz 49 Buzz Fizz 52 53 Fizz Buzz 56 Fizz 58 59 FizzBuzz 61 62 Fizz 64 Buzz Fizz 67 68 Fizz Buzz 71 Fizz 73 74 FizzBuzz 76 77 Fizz 79 Buzz Fizz 82 83 Fizz Buzz 86 Fizz 88 89 FizzBuzz 91 92 Fizz 94 Buzz Fizz 97 98 Fizz Buzz
generic modules
limpid umbra
they are exploiting a percieved desperation
vocal basin
lambda why
it could've been const(s + x("")) but eh
ig lambda x: x should be identity
limpid umbra
Bill the Moustaschio
lavish rover
-> Callable[[Callable[[str], str]], Callable[[str], str]] good lord
vocal basin
!e
```py
# I'm not sorry
from typing import Callable
def compose(*functions):
...
the "benefit" of this is:
branching happens only twice
(two if calls, zero and, zero or)
vocal basin
`-> Callable[[Callable[[str], str]], Callable[[str], str]]` good lord
I had a simpler version with a TypeAlias for Callable[[str], str] but I forgot to include that
that is an almost literal translation from Haskell, so quite cursed
def fizzbuzz(n: int) -> str:
left, right = "", str(n)
if not n % 3:
left += "Fizz"
right = ""
if not n % 5:
left += "Buzz"
right = ""
return left + right
print(*map(fizzbuzz, range(1, 101)))
this is basically the same but simpler
vocal basin
```py
def fizzbuzz(n: int) -> str:
left, right = "", str(n)
if not n % 3...
this is a rough translation of the first part of the paper
the DSL part
but without DSL
desert wolf
😦
vocal basin
```py
def fizzbuzz(n: int) -> str:
left, right = "", str(n)
if not n % 3...
I have some similar code in my more proper projects
limpid umbra
life is hard until you meet a man with no feet
justine treudo gets a $8000 / month food budget
vocal basin
> who told you healthcare in US is expensive?
what the fuck?
limpid umbra
reality is seeping into the coding room.......
desert wolf
lol
limpid umbra
Leon the proffesional ??
vocal basin
I have some similar code in my more proper projects
!e
def join(arr):
def wrap():
sep = "("
tail = "empty"
for s in arr:
yield sep
yield str(s)
sep = ", "
tail = ")"
yield tail
return "".join(wrap())
print(join([]))
print(join([0]))
print(join([0, 1]))
print(join([0, 1, 2]))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | empty
002 | (0)
003 | (0, 1)
004 | (0, 1, 2)
@midnight agate how much problematic does this look? (including naming)
vocal basin
why not `'(' + ', '.join(arr) + ')'`
religious avoidance of writing ifs
but, yes, that would look cleaner, obviously
lavish rover
stand by your opinions publicly 🙂
vocal basin
religious avoidance of writing `if`s
but, yes, that would look cleaner, obviousl...
!e
def join(arr):
return "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")" if arr else "empty"
print(join([]))
print(join([0]))
print(join([0, 1]))
print(join([0, 1, 2]))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | empty
002 | (0)
003 | (0, 1)
004 | (0, 1, 2)
the ideological opposition to this code is:
arr is read twice
so it's not "linear"
lavish rover
well, if arr does not read the array
just checks the length no?
ig does not work for arbitrary iterables
vocal basin
well, yes, "linear" qualifier is somewhat of a mathematical fanaticism
it just does not matter for real applications
so it's a simple useless totally superficial challenge not something real
lavish rover
def join(arr):
res = "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")"
return "empty" is len(res) == 2 else res
lmao
it's terrible
vocal basin
```py
def join(arr):
res = "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")"
return "...
unlike the if arr one, this works with iterators, not only collections
lavish rover
!e
def join(arr):
res = "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")"
return "empty" if len(res) == 2 else res
print(join([""]))
@lavish rover :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
empty
... sometimes works
lavish rover
!e
def join(arr):
res = "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")"
return "_basically_ empty" if len(res) == 2 else res
print(join([""]))
there, fixed
wise cargoBOT
@lavish rover :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
_basically_ empty
final osprey
Morning
Hey, I would like to ask a question, but I don't have perms to talk in the vc
Is there any way I can get temp perms to talk?
rugged root
What's the quick gist of your question?
final osprey
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cixefisuyi
Thats my script, I have the command report_message
I would like to convert this command into a context menu but I don't know how, could you help me with that?
vocal basin
!e
```py
def join(arr):
res = "(" + ", ".join(map(str, arr)) + ")"
retur...
you can claim markdown support
vocal basin
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cixefisuyi
Thats my script, I have the command r...
version 2.1 and higher, right?
final osprey
discord.py?
yes
final osprey
version 2.1 and higher, right?
yes
vocal basin
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cixefisuyi
Thats my script, I have the command r...
this one?
trying to find here
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html
vocal basin
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cixefisuyi
Thats my script, I have the command r...
seems like you need to specify command type to be AppCommandType.message
oh, wait
vocal basin
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cixefisuyi
Thats my script, I have the command r...
it took too long to find
so the first one probably
@app_commands.context_menu()
async def react(interaction: discord.Interaction, message: discord.Message):
await interaction.response.send_message('Very cool message!', ephemeral=True)
@app_commands.context_menu()
async def ban(interaction: discord.Interaction, user: discord.Member):
await interaction.response.send_message(f'Should I actually ban {user}...', ephemeral=True)
with the message: discord.Message argument
"not the worst things you can expect a person to say on twitter;
rather just average twitter communications"
when the only thing you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail
when the only thing you have is a hammer, everything looks like a screw
rugged root
@lunar haven You working on code or are you just kind of sitting on it
Because if you're not actively doing anything I'd prefer you to not be streaming
Like if you're going to go afk, end the stream
vocal basin
(from my understanding)
the video role (here) is supposed to be for "there's a something to stream"
that includes when given for prolonged periods
rugged root
@lunar haven This
vocal basin
@lunar haven find ways to think while actively interacting with the streamed IDE
write tests
write out thoughts
write ideas in any form (pseudo code, etc.)
rugged root
!server
wise cargoBOT
Created: <t:1483877013:R>
Roles: 105
Member status: 
60,592 
316,179
vocal basin
there are issues with multiple people streaming at the same time
"did you pay the hourly rate to mustafa?"
somber heath
!rule 9
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
HA
vocal basin
"offer didn't include disclosure of payment upfront, so doesn't count"
pulsar island
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwargs):
if Event.component == TSTAT:
if Event.rawvalue >= 20:
return JsonResponse(event.json())
elif Event.component == BATT:
if Event.rawvalue >=85
return JsonResponse(event.json())
rustic dew
what is the idea of the current stream?
vocal basin
```python
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwa...
is that the whole function?
if yes, then elif-if can probably be merged using and, right?
pulsar island
vacuum, one second, dont want to be rude
rugged root
Much appreciated
rugged root
what is the idea of the current stream?
@lunar haven
pulsar island
is that the whole function?
if yes, then `elif`-`if` can probably be merged usin...
yes
vocal basin
```python
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwa...
oh, and also:
isn't Event.component == BATT always false?
vocal basin
oh, and also:
isn't `Event.component == BATT` always false?
if BATT and TSTAT are different
pulsar island
OOOh, not in vc
event is a data model
component is a object of that model
event.component can either be BATT or TSTAT with current configuration of k:v
vocal basin
that code has something like this:
if x == A:
...
if x == B:
... # never reached? or always reached?
as in
rustic dew
I have one challenge for this day... flatten a dict.. given a dict {key1: value1, key2: {nestedKey2: value2}} the output should be [(key1, value), (key2.nestedKey, value2)]
Am i ok proposing things like this for the current stream?
Thanks
stuck furnace
I have one challenge for this day... flatten a dict.. given a dict `{key1: value...
@lunar haven
vocal basin
I have one challenge for this day... flatten a dict.. given a dict `{key1: value...
something like this?
https://www.codewars.com/kata/5cde541f52ed7f000c0aa9a0
vocal basin
something like this?
https://www.codewars.com/kata/5cde541f52ed7f000c0aa9a0
(this one is broken-ish)
vocal basin
(this one is broken-ish)
((specification-wise this task is very strange))
rustic dew
thats nice, but we can skip nested list
pulsar island
probably, @vocal basin Im still trying ot get good at logic based decisioning.
@vocal basin Oooh! Sorry, distracted. Yes, the logic will always be one or the other currently, otherwise it would be an error exception
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwargs):
if Event.component == TSTAT:
if Event.rawvalue >= 20:
return JsonResponse(event.json())
if Event.component == BATT:
if Event.rawvalue >=85
return JsonResponse(event.json())
Like this?
stuck furnace
What's this problem you're working on? 
pulsar island
django signals post_save_event function for post import/ingest of data to detect and conduct a test condition for a qualifier to generate a notification
is that worded wordy right? I dont know how to speak developer.
stuck furnace
Right
Yeah yeah. Although I'm not sure I really understood completely sorry 😄
I'm going to read a bit about Django signals.
vocal basin
```python
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwa...
sadly, can't use ranges and named constants like in Rust
(for match)
pulsar island
its ok. im ok with making multiple functionns to get er done. A pig with lipstick still makes bacon
vocal basin
```python
@receiver(pre_delete, sender=Event)
def pre_delete_event(sender, **kwa...
if Event.component == TSTAT:
if Event.rawvalue >= 20:
return JsonResponse(event.json())
if Event.component == BATT:
if Event.rawvalue >=85
return JsonResponse(event.json())
can probably be
if event_is_valid(Event):
return JsonResponse(event.json())
this is just a highlighting bug
\30 and \. shouldn't be different
stuck furnace
I recommend using pathlib from the standard library.
vocal basin
definitely
somber heath
pharynx @flat sentinel
vocal basin
Path("../../30DayQuakes.json")
this will auto-convert to \ on windows
stuck furnace
Yep 👍
flat sentinel
volo dolum
stuck furnace
Wdym? 
vocal basin
pathlib does not care
it validly recognises this
why do you need to chdir anyway?
vocal basin
and this
it auto-converts to backslashes on windows
call .absolute() on the path if you need to
or, better
.resolve()
proof?
works perfectly fine
(called from user directory)
how are you testing whether it works?
what should the path be?
@lunar haven why not just "30DayQuakes.json"?
the error message showed what the value of inpf was
and it could've been inferred that it shouldn't have ../.. there
somber heath
@turbid sandal #data-science-and-ml
vocal basin
it's from a root not from current directory
try this
inpf = (Path(__file__) / "../../../30DayQuakes.json").resolve()
.wa Wolfram Alpha
viscid lagoonBOT
vocal basin
__file__ is the current source file
vocal basin
try this
```py
inpf = (Path(__file__) / "../../../30DayQuakes.json").resolve()
`...
this is relative to the source file not to the cwd
useful if you have bundled resources in packages
lucid blade
vocal basin
!d pathlib.Path.open
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
Path objects have an open method
text read, yes
there's also
!d pathlib.Path.read_text
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
New in version 3.4.
Source code: Lib/pathlib.py
This module offers classes representing filesystem paths with semantics appropriate for different operating systems. Path classes are divided between pure paths, which provide purely computational operations without I/O, and concrete paths, which inherit from pure paths but also provide I/O operations.
If you’ve never used this module before or just aren’t sure which class is right for your task, Path is most likely what you need. It instantiates a concrete path for the platform the code is running on.
Pure paths are useful in some special cases; for example:
vocal basin
purely syntactical, as long as the type of path is UnixPath or WindowsPath
flat sentinel
vocal basin
Europe is all the way to Ural
"Russia's land is in Europe, Asia, and African mines"
Kemalstan?
vocal basin
"Russia's land is in Europe, Asia, and African mines"
75% of population is in Europe
Russia's economy is tiny
somber heath
@haughty umbra @green inlet 👋
amber raptor
!e python print(int('Hello'))
wise cargoBOT
@amber raptor :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | print(int('Hello'))
004 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'Hello'
True
vocal basin
and still (as I heard) Netherlands' economy is comparable to Russian economy without oil and gas
US just hides the oil rigs inside the cities
!e
print(int("𐒣𑄺𑃸𑃸𑄶"))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
34880
(screenshot if someone doesn't see those characters)
lucid blade
fierce wigeon
hello world
vocal basin
fierce wigeon
listening you guys remember when I were young
vocal basin
!e
print(int("𐒣𑄺𑃸𑃸𑄶٠໖𑄶۲𑃸႕"))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
34880060285
vocal basin
!e
```py
print(int("𐒣𑄺𑃸𑃸𑄶٠໖𑄶۲𑃸႕"))
```
meh the last one is very offset
lucid blade
rugged root
fierce wigeon
I will be the pilot of one of these things
vocal basin
!e
```py
print(int("𐒣𑄺𑃸𑃸𑄶٠໖𑄶۲𑃸႕"))
```
I wonder if there's a better decimal digit that looks like "d"
fierce wigeon
what is that are went to stanford
golden sonnet
or something around that
fierce wigeon
it lied to me today
it changed one word of place
you said halllucinations or im going insane
vocal basin
what is chdir for anyway?
just use the path itself
inpp = Path(inp_path)
outp = inpp.with_stem(inpp.stem)
or do you want to make it in a separate directory?
inpp = Path(inp_path)
out_dir = inpp.with_suffix("")
out_dir.mkdir(exist_ok=True)
outp = out_dir / inpp.name
you don't need \\ in paths
it's always equivalent to / on Windows
because Path is stored as a list of parts
vocal basin
there is also Path("a", "b") instead of Path("a/b")
lucid blade
vocal basin
!e
from pathlib import Path
print(Path("a", "b") == Path("a/b"))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
True
I prefer using / when combining things that are know to be paths
but it should be fine like that too
fierce wigeon
helicopters are cars
vocal basin
I prefer using `/` when combining things that are know to be paths
but it should...
(or, rather, if the left operand is a Path)
less nesting
lucid blade
fierce wigeon
I broke all the mechanics of my car and seeing this video makes me cry
vocal basin
second drops everything before the name
fierce wigeon
every is possible with pressure, a dream team and money
vocal basin
abc/abc/abc/abc/stem.suffix
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
parent name
@lucid blade give me back the tin foil
vocal basin
military has a habit of promoting conspiracy theories to cover up their own activities
fierce wigeon
are from military
vocal basin
those are mostly just illusions not actual objects
rarely weather effects
even more rarely -- something people made
you're claiming two separate things
vocal basin
those are mostly just illusions not actual objects
this was a comment on what you said about WW2 time observations
aka visual sightings
fierce wigeon
a 100000w reflector
vocal basin
ball lightnings have something like a couple of potentially reliable recordings
and similar looking phenomena seems to be replicable in experiments
but, like, them as weather/natural thing are still rather hypothetical/unstudied
fierce wigeon
if you point a laser beam in a sphere it becames all color
vocal basin
there's also some stupid analytical result that, if you point it at an opaque sphere, the brightest shadow point will be in the middle
!e
# this being allowed did some irreversible things to my brain
print(int("૧୨৪༥႖૭꧸"))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1245678
The different wavelengths travel at the same speed, but when the speed changes they refract at different angles, which splits the light up into its components.
somber heath
vocal basin
there's also some stupid analytical result that, if you point it at an opaque sp...
(Arago/Poisson/Fresnel spot)
I might have forgotten
stuck furnace
Yeah it wont be split into constituent wavelengths if it's just one wavelength.
I don't really understand how lasers work 😄
It's some quantum mechanical thing, and I never got that far in physics.
stuck furnace
https://youtube.com/shorts/3ISOCV1ehmo?feature=share
Oh yeah, isn't this one of the reactors that's run by undergrads?
vocal basin
I studied quantum mechanics in part because that way I could explain my absence from dancing lessons (schedule overlapped quite luckily)
@rugged root
do we still have temporary 1H AFK measures in this chat?
rugged root
Unfortunately
vocal basin
2 months long temporary
lucid blade
@vocal basin https://youtu.be/w0ztlIAYTCU
vocal basin
"just introduce social credit system"?
damn, discord took a long time to check that message
vocal basin
damn, discord took a long time to check that message
or I just have slow internet suddenly
vocal basin
"just introduce social credit system"?
I was tempted to implement something similar for one of my bots
but ethics took over
some systems are fundamentally and reasonably opaque
stuck furnace
Sorry are you talking about video permissions or the moderator role?
rugged root
Being able to grant the video perms
vocal basin
some systems are fundamentally and reasonably opaque
which is quite correlated to moderation
(look at @toxic zephyr's description, for example)
one chance is one chance too much
stuck furnace
Yeah I think the criteria for this are just trust and familiarity.
vocal basin
just write a book on making a better system addressing all potential concerns
tepid edge
Honestly I think there's an alternate solution
lucid blade
@lunar haven H5 😉
stuck furnace
Mods can grant permissions on a temporary basis. Admins will then grant them for a probationary period. If that goes well, they get permanent permissions.
tepid edge
Just give the people with stream permission the ability to create a temp channel
stuck furnace
The only goal is to prevent misuse of the permissions.
vocal basin
@midnight agate giving out video roles is useless without kick permissions
tepid edge
probably granting stream permissions
vocal basin
you know who has kick permissions?
moderators
you know what also moderators have?
granting Video
stuck furnace
@honest kayak Your nickname was setting off a load of moderator pings sorry 😄
You should be able to change it to something else.
Oh actually sorry, I need to un-starify you I think.
honest kayak
Bro It was literally a barcode
vocal basin
<@313797258200219648> giving out video roles is useless without kick permissions
trait CanGrantVideo: CanKick {}
trait CanKick: Moderator {}
trait Moderator: CanGrantVideo + ... {}
@midnight agate verify you understand why this is the case
stuck furnace
Bro It was literally a barcode
It was setting off the spam filter.
honest kayak
Oh ok
vocal basin
is Bell Labs still Nokia?
fierce wigeon
Bell Labs offering eletrictal services too
lucid blade
idk about bell labs
vocal basin
is Bell Labs still Nokia?
fierce wigeon
probably Adobe Photoshop
peak copper
wise cargoBOT
✅ @lime vale can now stream until <t:1682980606:f>.
vocal basin
print(any(quake["properties"]["felt"] is not None and quake["properties"]["felt"] > 25000 for quake in data["features"]))
print(any(quake["properties"].get("felt", 0) > 25000 for quake in data["features"]))
print(any(felt_by_more_than(quake, 25_000) for quake in data["features"]))
do you use any tools for debugging async stuff? (beyond just logging)
vocal basin
```py
print(any(quake["properties"]["felt"] is not None and quake["properties"][...
or, like
print(any(felt_by(quake) > 25_000 for quake in data["features"]))
I use "staring at code until it starts to make sense"
vocal basin
do you use any tools for debugging async stuff? (beyond just logging)
I'm too lazy to look up anything sane, so I wrote my own dumb things instead
vocal basin
I'm too lazy to look up anything sane, so I wrote my own dumb things instead
code injection stuff
change to .get at least; or use or
or both
rather
collection.get(key) or default
key not in collection => default
collection[key] == None => default
collection[key] == 0 => default
which is basically
collection[key] == x and x > 0 => x
otherwise => 0
add or 0 after get
and remove , 0 from get
@lunar haven also, add parentheses
add parentheses
or else it's wrong
(collection.get(...) or default) > 25_000
this isn't javascript
!d dict.get
vocal basin
without or hacks
# TODO: find a better name
def get_default_not_none(collection, key, default):
maybe_value = collection.get(key)
return default if maybe_value is None else default
it won't
granite plank
@lavish rover can I stream algebra school work
lavish rover
<@378279228002664454> can I stream algebra school work
not really the place to stream algebra school work? besides I don't have permissions to allow people to stream anyway, only a mod/admin can do that
stuck furnace
What happened, I wasn't paying attention? 😄
lavish rover
people go bye
stuck furnace
Ah ok
Yo
Bringing us towards the AI apocalypse 3 times faster
You can drop the inner () when you pass a generator expression as the sole argument of a function call.
Oh wait nvm, I thought it was any((...)), but misread.
vocal basin
I'm thinking about a very dumb idea right now
how to implement as much as possible using iterators/generators
def function_to_generator(f):
yield f(yield)
def list_but_worse(it):
"""\
to the outside, this is an iterator of iterators
"""
list_ = list(it) # there should actualy be some hack to avoid using `list`
while True:
yield iter(list_)
I think if I try making anything sensible out of it, it'll just be something equivalent to "boring" things like an actor model but worse
vocal basin
*I'm thinking about a very dumb idea right now*
how to implement as much as poss...
I have no idea what I'm doing
desert vector
and that, my friend, is how you make breakthroughs
by not knowing what the hell you're doing
stuck furnace
Fix my ChatGPT-generated code has become a pretty common question in this server.
vocal basin
I have no idea what I'm doing
so, the first task to do, I'd guess, would be do duplicate an iterator;
I need to choose what constructs to limit myself to;
vocal basin
no it's not
Python doesn't have a concept of pass-by-value vs pass-by-reference
!e
print(sorted('abc'))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
['a', 'b', 'c']
sorted returns list
stuck furnace
Yeah I mis-read your code sorry.
vocal basin
it's mutable vs immutable
not reference vs value
sorted sometimes changes the original value
!e
value = iter([1])
print(*value)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1
!e
value = iter([1])
sorted(value)
print(*value)
@vocal basin :warning: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
So like it can consume an iterator.
Iterators can only be looped over once.
Sorry that might not have been the best way to put it 
Not seen gof sorry 😄
Erm, nah just never got around to it.
stuck furnace
.sort modifies the list in-place.
vocal basin
<@924010347264897024> sorting stability
this one is the correctness parameter not performance parameter
stuck furnace
I think collections.deque is a linked-list.
vocal basin
!e
# ihatemyself.py
def empty():
return
yield
def one(item):
yield item
def repeat(item):
while True:
yield item
def repeat_ones(item):
while True:
yield one(item)
def _join(it0, it1):
yield from next(it0)
yield from next(it1)
def join(it0, it1):
while True:
yield _join(it0, it1)
def listify(it):
ls = repeat(empty())
for item in it:
ls = join(ls, repeat_ones(item))
while True:
yield next(ls)
arr = listify([1, 2, 3])
print(*next(arr))
print(*next(arr))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1 2 3
002 | 1 2 3
Hey @lunar haven have I told you about https://pythontutor.com ?
vocal basin
!e
print(sorted([0, 1], key=(lambda _: 0), reverse=True))
print(sorted([0, 1], key=(lambda _: 0))[::-1])
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [0, 1]
002 | [1, 0]
@lunar haven [::-1] gives a different result
stuck furnace
Pretty sure it is 😸
stuck furnace
Ah right
wise cargoBOT
Modules/_collectionsmodule.c line 33
/* Data for deque objects is stored in a doubly-linked list of fixed```well, works if works
stuck furnace
Cya Fred 👋
vocal basin
`Modules/_collectionsmodule.c` line 33
```c
/* Data for deque objects is stored ...
look further, there are some nuances
stuck furnace
The code is pretty readable too, probably because it's written by Raymond Hettinger.
I'd say "accessing" and "mutating"
vocal basin
sorted isn't guaranteed to be immutable
but it's expected to be immutable on variables which are immutable when iterated over
wise cargoBOT
@lunar haven :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | from future import braces
004 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'future'
!e
from __future__ import braces
@vocal basin :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 | from __future__ import braces
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: not a chance
Heading off for a bit 👋
vocal basin
!e```python
print("i am new here")```
!e
print(int("８০၃꧷౪੪៨௨୯૮꧲᱙᱓1᱒໕๙٤꯴᧘꧗꘩꧷３൧５໑꯵᧔᠙७").to_bytes(13, 'little').decode())
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
i am new here
I'm addicted to doing this now
vocal basin
!e
```py
print(int("８০၃꧷౪੪៨௨୯૮꧲᱙᱓1᱒໕๙٤꯴᧘꧗꘩꧷３൧５໑꯵᧔᠙७").to_bytes(13, 'little').dec...
even JS doesn't allow this
I do hear
vocal basin
I'm addicted to doing this now
"৪୨" is the new answer to everything
limpid umbra
scrub 42 - replace with 89
vocal basin
!e
print(int("৪୨"))
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
42
now "the only thing" left there is making yield from stacklessly somehow (or join)
just not to recursion-crash
!server
wise cargoBOT
Created: <t:1483877013:R>
Roles: 105
Member status: 44,578 332,203
vocal basin
brain not wrok
vocal basin
continuing with that diagram
before "restructuring"
after
the original point was about incorrectly restructuring the project
rewriting parts in Rust, specifically
vocal basin
the original point was about incorrectly restructuring the project
so I see the picture of what that should look like in my imagination, just like I had with monad-based tracing
I'm highly against doing administrative duties
for quite a lot of reasons
there are two types of servers in Discord
faint raven
!e python print("i'm hungry")
wise cargoBOT
@faint raven :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
i'm hungry
"community" and not
you have higher liabilities if you make the first one
if the server lacks moderation, your access to "community" features will probably get restricted in one way or another
what they do state explicitly in (probably) multiple places is that they care about "community" server moderation more than typical server moderation
Discord themselves don't host your bots
poll API, iirc
event based
websockets are involved at some point
but I'm not sure where exactly
didn't look into it yet
Discord's API is based around two core layers, a HTTPS/REST API for general operations, and persistent secure WebSocket based connection for sending and subscribing to real-time events.
outdated but gives some insight into how things were
https://discordapi.com/unofficial/comparison.html
very good row for taking out of context
vocal basin
after
right now, I'm making this diagram worse
[making attempts at ]writing two external book-like pieces of documentation on the project I'm doing in Rust
one is about the functional programming basis
another is about distributed storage part
not the implementation of distributed storage "on the low level", but rather usage of some underlying system
they are separate because only one of them is Rust-specific
there should be a third one focusing on listing all the algorithms/data structures used
because there are some concepts from the distributed storage part which are not required here
vocal basin
*right now*, I'm making this diagram worse
vocal basin
another is about distributed storage part
... and there are also two other projects which are supposed to be based on that this
which are being developed since 2020
and finally are getting migrated to a form both more flexible and more robust
test?
*or I might've misheard*
speaking of tests, I don't have any separating abstract algorithms from the distributed storage allows to write tests without involving some more heavy context-specific objects
subset testing algorithm, that I wrote, for example, works on abstract binary trees
it might look horrifying because of the amount of Rc it has
but it's kind of reasonable
(it's Rcd anyway so this doesn't add any real overhead)
and using references just doesn't work
for now, at least
vocal basin
subset testing algorithm, that I wrote, for example, works on abstract binary tr...
nodes don't even need to uniform in types
also
dereferencing a pointer to a node might fail
"pointer"
it might be a URL, for example
I will probably duplicate the code in a more general-public-appropriate variant
because right now there are references to internal projects in docs and other places
vocal basin
also
dereferencing a pointer to a node might fail
but the algorithm's code isn't responsible for handling it, the outside code is, in some sense
junior ermine
future
wise cargoBOT
@lunar haven :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 | from __future__ import braces
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: not a chance
!e from future import braces
wise cargoBOT
@junior ermine :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 | from __future__ import braces
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: not a chance
!e import future
wise cargoBOT
@junior ermine :warning: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
1min
do someone can give me permission to stream? i wanna show ,my app to gofek
@stuck furnace
stuck furnace
Sorry, not unless a mod is present, and I'm heading off.
junior ermine
oks
somber heath
@earnest grotto 👋
earnest grotto
@somber heath Hi, can't talk right now 😢
somber heath
<@317279909112446976> Hi, can't talk right now 😢
!voice
wise cargoBOT
whole bear
YOOO
somber heath
whole bear
how goes it?
somber heath
@sacred tundra 👋
fair citrus
Hello
@turbid sandal @crystal fox I couldn't hear any of you because discord voice chat is blocked where I live
I just wanted to ask if any of you have knowledge in sphinx
turbid sandal
no @fair citrus
fair citrus
okay thank you
somber heath
@jolly slate 👋
limpid umbra
@somber heath OY! ya got dem fancy birds up there ( oz top of world , righto )
do they make a 4k at 240 Hz
somber heath
@calm mist 👋
somber heath
The topic varies.
limpid umbra
whats the re-sale value of a lambo
somber heath
About $3.50.
calm mist
you saying what you want sell crypt coins @turbid sandal
limpid umbra
servers devalue - no business person will buy them
if your underage , then you daddy will be held liable
is this the cartoon channel
@somber heath so are wild parrots , common there
@somber heath i always look at the 4k vids of birds , especially parrots flying in a flock
@somber heath bird jail
@somber heath did you ever hear a budgie talk
@somber heath most animals need to be wild , cats may be ok
@somber heath i feel sorry for big dogs in a house , they need a farm to run around in
@rugged root when the cat away ,,,,,, the mice will play
is Hemmy getting some coffee , and a banana chocolate chip muffin before work
grapefruit has that same effect - 50/50 love hate
dont get to deep of confookled hooman rules - its just mind bending
14 yr kinda elderly for a cat
i hear good things about canabis and cancer
crystal fox
limpid umbra
if your cat starts hiding to sleep - its kinda the beginning of the end
limpid umbra
did you train your rats
@crystal fox did you train your rats
@crystal fox they can press a button then , text to speech setup
@crystal fox that is a must do project
@crystal fox food reward thingy
i got a nice $10 keyboard and mouse
thin galleon
Always on start: [5, 63, 1, 0, 0, 1]
Always on start: [11, 134, 36, 0, 112, 6, 0, 0, 118, 16, 0, 0]
Always on start: [7, 54, 144, 1, 232, 3, 0, 0]
FINISH LINE: [17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 252, 0, 23, 51, 34, 35]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 6, 33, 242, 189, 31, 73, 149, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 254, 0, 41, 0, 22, 22]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 18, 242, 189, 31, 73, 139, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 18, 242, 189, 31, 73, 142, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 254, 0, 0, 0, 39, 44]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 18, 242, 189, 31, 73, 122, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 18, 242, 189, 31, 73, 143, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 255, 0, 0, 0, 39, 45]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 57, 242, 189, 31, 73, 162, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
SPECIAL TRACK:[6, 83, 249, 117, 0, 0, 0]
SPECIAL TRACK:[6, 79, 249, 117, 0, 0, 0]
SPECIAL TRACK:[6, 83, 219, 39, 0, 0, 0]
SPECIAL TRACK:[6, 79, 219, 39, 0, 0, 0]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 57, 242, 189, 31, 73, 150, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 56, 56]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 17, 242, 189, 31, 73, 139, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 17, 242, 189, 31, 73, 135, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 253, 0, 0, 0, 38, 44]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 23, 242, 189, 31, 73, 132, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 23, 242, 189, 31, 73, 136, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
NEW TRACK (dont know which):[17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 255, 0, 0, 0, 39, 45]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 12, 34, 242, 189, 31, 73, 147, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
UNKNOWN!: [16, 39, 13, 34, 242, 189, 31, 73, 154, 1, 7, 255, 129, 200, 0, 144, 1]
FINISH LINE: [17, 41, 0, 0, 242, 189, 31, 73, 255, 129, 200, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 34, 34]
@crystal fox you need lots vit C and D
rugged root
limpid umbra
Star Fleet is on the JOB!!!
everybody has covid , i feel so left out
jonny rotten = punk ?
jonny said some stuff then the BBC blacklisted him
rugged root
Yeah that tracks
limpid umbra
is goonygoogoo a ozzy thing
??
hmmmm , think of "The Goon show" from england , they secretly get drunk on the show
rugged root
Just makes me thing of SomethingAwful
limpid umbra
infected goonbag ?
as long as its high alcohol content - all is well
homebrew beer can be 12 or 18 % its nice
its the skin in red wine that is anti-cancer and anti-heart disease
gin as a marinade?
home brew beer is actually better - and when you go back to bought beer then its shocking
Q - mint julip , has gin ???
drinkology 1001
rugged root
@turbid sandal @pulsar island #data-science-and-ml
limpid umbra
isnt NUMPY faster at deep arrays
rugged root
Word
limpid umbra
if you want to code for emotion - then how do you feel about , coffee HAL9000
Red Dwarf --- toaster AI
vocal basin
there's this video but I don't know how correct it is
https://youtu.be/8Fn_30AD7Pk
limpid umbra
@pulsar island there playing you , they want more money before bailing out
@pulsar island its a open market - give each of the staff your business card
vocal basin
restarted because this wasn't showing up
(just made sure it's a bug on my side)
google maps?
limpid umbra
dragonfruit reminds mr of this.....
vocal basin
google maps?
(google reviews is a part of it)
limpid umbra
somber heath
Such a good series.
limpid umbra
i know i know
vocal basin
minesweeper.online
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
sad situation
limpid umbra
your puppy is called Django ?
vocal basin
"full stack" is a buzzword
> Flask is good
eh
Flask is a good implementation of awful ideas
no matter how well you implement request object as a globally imported object, it's just wrong
no matter how well you implement WSGI, it's not ASGI
vocal basin
Scala, to support XML literals
vocal basin
> jams up the whole process
????
I guess this one depends on contextvars or something like it
I should check
from quart import request
vocal basin
I guess this one depends on contextvars or something like it
I should check
```p...
yes, ContextVars
vocal basin
Flask probably does that too
(hopefully)
vocal basin
there's way way more
rugged root
Just interesting how it's saying Popular ones
And Django is the only one that jumps out at me
vocal basin
there's way way more
Python back-end framework following JavaScript front/back-end frameworks' fate
rugged root
Masonite actually does seem kind of interesting
vocal basin
I tried to configure managed k8s as cheap as possible in Yandex Cloud price calculator
(just for fun)
$83.99 a month
sounds not cheap for its settings
rugged root
@turbid sandal What's up?
vocal basin
there are cases where "security through obscurity" is worth it economically/otherwise
not everyone is qualified enough
like
cases where you don't care if it's 50% secure
DRMs, for example
rugged root
True
vocal basin
DRMs, for example
... I was supposed to make a presentation on it at some point, but the audience was too much involved in !rule 5 stuff, so quite uncomfortable for me
rugged root
Fair
vocal basin
hashes
public keys
other no-private-key stuff
and for password only use specific hashes
rugged root
!d hashlib
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
and for password only use specific hashes
how are they called?
is there a wikipedia page?
lucid blade
2min i need headphones
vocal basin
just use PyNaCl
molten pewter
# compute the hash value of text
hash_value = hash(text)
print(hash_value)
wrong hash
!e
from hashlib import sha256
text = 'Python Programming'
print(sha256(text.encode()).hexdigest())
yoloing failed
wise cargoBOT
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
d15647d90cc9f8e341146110bf5058773171688b237d2f9b5704399a0b17c8bd
I only used PyInstaller
I kind of don't want to repeat that mistake
!e
import nacl.hashing
@vocal basin :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | import nacl.hashing
004 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'nacl'
fancy front-end for pyinstaller
for passwords
https://pynacl.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api/pwhash/
raven knoll
yo
vocal basin
for passwords
https://pynacl.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api/pwhash/
I like how rarely algorithm names appear inside public/secret/sign modules
raven knoll
does anyone know how to make a script where i can paste something into it and it will automate my keystrokes and type it in for me
vocal basin
does anyone know how to make a script where i can paste something into it and it...
what do you need it for?
raven knoll
I need it to copy and paste essays that are pre made for me and need it to copy it in therre for me cause they have it block so I need it to automate keystrochs fdor me and but it in
@vocal basin
vocal basin
why do you need to copy and paste essays?
raven knoll
Can you do it?
vocal basin
I need it to copy and paste essays that are pre made for me and need it to copy ...
what do you mean by "pre made"?
somber heath
My race condition is human.
raven knoll
Like I made them in a google doc to maske sure there right and have some look over it in the google doc before I submit it
Can ytou do it or nah
vocal basin
okay
so you were supposed to write it in the text box, and not in the google doc, right?
vocal basin
do you understand why you aren't supposed to use google docs?
raven knoll
I write it in google doc becausde it easeir to make agustments there thrn in text box
raven knoll
do you understand why you aren't supposed to use google docs?
Can you do it or what bro
vocal basin
do you understand why you aren't supposed to use google docs?
I'm not proceeding with any help until you answer that question
because there's !rule 5 and !rule 8
raven knoll
do you understand why you aren't supposed to use google docs?
Idk I do it to make adjustments and send to my mother so she can l;ook over it for me cause its a big part of my grasde can you help or nah
I have it all typed out but I just need to but it in the text box
vocal basin
you aren't supposed to get external help on work that you receive grades for
type the text yourself, this is the cost you have to bear for external help
raven knoll
Bro its not a grade
vocal basin
do you understand why you aren't supposed to use google docs?
and for google docs specifically, the issue is spell checking
if the site/app blocks pasting text, there are reasons for it
raven knoll
and for google docs specifically, the issue is spell checking
I juist need to copy it from the google dock to the text box can you help or nah
vocal basin
why is pasting text blocked?
somber heath
Just large amounts?
raven knoll
Just large amounts?
YEs
raven knoll
why is pasting text blocked?
Idk the console was made like that
vocal basin
is it a site?
raven knoll
Its a game
vocal basin
or an app?
vocal basin
I'm not sure it's ToS-allowed
raven knoll
What is not tos
lucid blade
BBL
stuck furnace
Alright calm down everyone 😄
raven knoll
I have look at roles and its not I just need it to copy and past from the google doc to the text box
stuck furnace
Verdoof
raven knoll
?????????????????
stuck furnace
@turbid sandal Not really appropriate.
Cape Canaveral actually has bald eagles 😄
One flew along side the bus when I was there last.
It was majestic
Yeah that was arguably not a very smart decision by them 😄
They were building a steel plate to go under the pad, but decided not to wait till it was completed.
wind raptor
You reminded me of this @crystal fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2LvQUcwqc&ab_channel=chemdotinfo
wind raptor
Love it
frigid tangle
<@251683643603419146> 👋
👋
crystal fox
@gentle flint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-C6UvVGHto
crystal fox
somber heath
willow light
sweet lodge
@amber raptor your favorite config format: https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2023/01/11/the-yaml-document-from-hell
amber raptor
<@113304266269003776> your favorite config format: https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/...
It is awful
YAML Proves Dynamic Typing is awful
stuck furnace
gtg 👋
sweet lodge
YAML Proves Dynamic Typing is awful
I agree
What should we use instead?
amber raptor
JSON feels verbose
And?
sweet lodge
Well, IDK
I wouldn't actually have any problem with just shutting up and using JSON
amber raptor
people say verbose like it's a bad thing, it's not, it's ultra clear what is going on
sweet lodge
Agreed
willow light
and that's why Java 8 is a good language
Verbose can be a good thing, look at FizzBuzz Enterprise Edition
amber raptor
Verbose can be a good thing, look at FizzBuzz Enterprise Edition
There is too much but YAML went other direction with "Fuck it, I'll just guess"
vocal basin
NumberIsMultipleOfAnotherNumberVerifier.java
IntegerIntegerStringReturner.java
NoFizzNoBuzzStrategy.java
"no fizz no buzz"
willow light
package com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.impl.factories;
import org.springframework.beans.factory.annotation.Autowired;
import org.springframework.stereotype.Service;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.impl.visitors.FizzBuzzOutputGenerationContextVisitor;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.interfaces.factories.OutputGenerationContextVisitorFactory;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.interfaces.visitors.OutputGenerationContextVisitor;
StringStringReturnerFactory.java
willow light
package com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.impl.factories;
import org.springframework.beans.factory.annotation.Autowired;
import org.springframework.stereotype.Service;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.impl.stringreturners.IntegerIntegerStringReturner;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.interfaces.factories.IntegerStringReturnerFactory;
import com.seriouscompany.business.java.fizzbuzz.packagenamingpackage.interfaces.stringreturners.IntegerStringReturner;
/**
* Factory for IntegerIntegerStringReturner
*/
@Service
public class IntegerIntegerStringReturnerFactory implements
IntegerStringReturnerFactory {
private final IntegerIntegerStringReturner _integerIntegerStringReturner;
/**
* @param _integerIntegerStringReturner IntegerIntegerStringReturner
*/
@Autowired
public IntegerIntegerStringReturnerFactory(final IntegerIntegerStringReturner _integerIntegerStringReturner) {
super();
this._integerIntegerStringReturner = _integerIntegerStringReturner;
}
/**
* @return IntegerStringReturner
*/
@Override
public IntegerStringReturner createIntegerStringReturner() {
return this._integerIntegerStringReturner;
}
}
I see nothing wrong here
vocal basin
can't find any factory factories yet
willow light
There was a pull request for a factory factory factory
vocal basin
"increase" performance
https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition/pull/478
vocal basin
should add alternative implementation with DSLs
from that one paper
are we sure it even can compile?
willow light
Next we need to make a front end in Angular.js
Not the new fancy Angular 2 that the kids are using these days, it's too new we can't be sure it works yet.
vocal basin
from *that one paper*
just use bash scripts and webhook endpoints written in php
perl
?
vocal basin
yes, was about to ask if webhook endpoints could be in cobol
willow light
Honestly why is this using Rest? It should be using SOAP. That way we can get the true enterprise feel
Maybe as a concession to the modern era we can integrate it with WSO2
somber heath
@frank jay 👋
vocal basin
http-to-whatever-cobol-understand layer written in Ruby
don't forget to fall off while iterating over lists and handling exceptions instead of using for loops
because Ruby has (had) a feature of generating the full traceback even when unnecessary
Python doesn't explode when you throw StopIteration/IndexError
rugged root
I would hope not
willow light
Python doesn't explode when you throw `StopIteration`/`IndexError`
Ok I'll file a report in bugs.python.org then
vocal basin
ugh, the video died ("Bryan Cantrill: The Summer of RUST")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjFM8vw3pbU
vocal basin
ugh, the video died ("Bryan Cantrill: The Summer of RUST")
https://www.youtube.c...
this contained the reference to Ruby exploding on every single exception
RSS feed of JPEGs encoded in base85
rugged root
@lunar haven You can shorten lines 15 and 27
willow light
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/faq/rss_access.shtml this is their api
well taking into account 0 == False returns True
actually, let's test that
!e
assert 0 == False
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True
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[No output]
!e
print(False == 0)
print(True == 1)
print(int(False))
print(int(True))
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001 | True
002 | True
003 | 0
004 | 1
!e
match True:
case int():
print('int')
case bool():
print('bool')
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int
!e
assert False
wise cargoBOT
@willow light :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | assert False
004 | AssertionError
situation taken from some actual code
willow light
Don't get me started on actual code I've seen in production
# validation.py
assert(1==1)
!e
print(issubclass(bool, int))
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True
import requests
import os
url = os.path.join("https://jsonplaceholder.com", "get")
r = requests.get(url).json()
actual code in production right now
vocal basin
!e
```py
# ihatemyself.py
def empty():
return
yield
def one(item):
...
speaking of yield
#voice-chat-text-0 message
willow light
speaking of `yield`
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/412357430186...
I only yield to pedestrians
vocal basin
oh, I think I can simplify that code
rugged root
@lunar haven So what're you currently working on/what're you stuck on, etc.
vocal basin
oh, I think I can simplify that code
!e
def empty():
return
yield
def one(item):
yield item
def repeat(item):
while True: yield item # pep8n't
def repeat_ones(item):
while True: yield one(item) # pep8n't
def _join(it0, it1):
yield from next(it0)
yield from next(it1)
def join(it0, it1):
while True: yield _join(it0, it1) # pep8n't
def listify(it):
ls = repeat(empty())
for item in it:
ls = join(ls, repeat_ones(item))
yield from ls
arr = listify([1, 2, 3])
print(*next(arr))
print(*next(arr))
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001 | 1 2 3
002 | 1 2 3
All good all good
vocal basin
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it works
rugged root
Just wondering if there was anything I could help with
vocal basin
!e
```py
def empty():
return
yield
def one(item):
yield item
def rep...
linked list implemented with yield
very wrong
def empty():
return
yield
yes
!e
def example():
yield
print(next(example()))
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None
!e
def example():
msg = yield
print('message: ', msg)
print(next(example()))
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None
eh
need to next() once more
!e
def example():
msg = yield
print('message: ', msg)
yield msg
g = example()
print(next(g))
print(next(g))
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001 | None
002 | message: None
003 | None
!e
def example():
yield (yield)
g = example()
print(next(g))
print(next(g))
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001 | None
002 | None
!e
def example():
yield (yield 1)
g = example()
print(next(g))
print(g.send(2))
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001 | 1
002 | 2
vocal basin
!e
def example():
yield (yield 1)
g = example()
print(g.send(None))
print(g.send(2))
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001 | 1
002 | 2
so
g.send(None) is equivalent to next(g)
when you dog.send(x), yield evaluates to x
!e
def double():
request = yield
while True:
response = 2 * request
request = yield response
g = double()
g.send(None)
print(g.send(1))
print(g.send(2))
print(g.send("3"))
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001 | 2
002 | 4
003 | 33
@whole bear 👋
rugged root
Check out the #voice-verification channel
That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
vocal basin
!e
```py
def double():
request = yield
while True:
response = 2 ...
Lua has a similar thing with the coroutines
https://www.lua.org/manual/5.4/manual.html#2.6
initial send(None) is to start it
vocal basin
initial `send(None)` is to start it
because value can be sent into only after something was yielded
vocal basin
Lua has a similar thing with the coroutines
https://www.lua.org/manual/5.4/manua...
they pass arguments from the first resume (send) call as arguments to the function that the coroutine is made from
is the game made by you?
!rule 5
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
terse needle
https://elm-lang.org/
vocal basin
!e
```py
def empty():
return
yield
def one(item):
yield item
def rep...
this sounds like a good idea to make a language of
only yield, next, while True, for
and functions, I guess
to some extent
I wonder if it's enough to implement a queue
vocal basin
only yield, next, while True, for
yield from probably too
at least it should include the related optimisations
rugged root
Damn it, I'm getting discouraged again
Looking at the Elm repo and there hasn't been a main commit since September
vocal basin
only yield, next, while True, for
maybe also .send
with .send queues should be implementable
what browser?
what do you run HTML on?
maiden skiff
hi
maiden skiff
I studied English today.
maiden skiff
I studied English today.
While working part-time..
rugged root
While working part-time..
Don't overload yourself.
vocal basin
if it involves databases, it probably should be on the back-end not in HTML
maiden skiff
Don't overload yourself.
I don't have time to study except for my part-time job. I want someone to teach me English next to me.
rugged root
Fair.
Kind of hard without knowing Korean, though
Because I'd assume you'd need some common ground
vocal basin
if it involves databases, it probably should be on the back-end not in HTML
like, with what you're describing there, you should consider the following
if the database is in the "HTML part", user can change absolutely anything as they choose to
maiden skiff
Now I can use the microphone and I'm still chatting because I'm scared.
vocal basin
like, with what you're describing there, you should consider the following
if th...
there's JWT-like stuff with encryption but it's not omnipotent
rugged root
Now I can use the microphone and I'm still chatting because I'm scared.
No need to be scared. We're patient. There's plenty of non-native English speakers here
maiden skiff
No need to be scared. We're patient. There's plenty of non-native English spea...
You give me a sense of relief.
vocal basin
if you want to ban someone, it's way way easier to do that server-side
rugged root
And more reliable
rugged root
You give me a sense of relief.
We aim to be welcoming to everyone. And like I said before, if you ever need us to repeat what we said or want clarification on meaning, don't hesitate to ask
vocal basin
quite obfuscated, not really code anymore
it's not the source file of the site
it's a compiled site
(just to make sure you understand that)
maiden skiff
We aim to be welcoming to everyone. And like I said before, if you ever need us...
Thank you. I will try to talk a lot even if it is difficult to improve my English skills.
I'll finish my job and join the channel
wise cargoBOT
vocal basin
I can't brain
what even is MonadFailAny
why did I name it like that
(trying to make Future of a Result work in some ways that Result works)
syntax error?
case _ if x >= 90:
...
@lunar haven case _ if not case if
pattern part is always required
and _ is the catch-all pattern
case <pattern>[ if <condition>]:
...
if-elif-else might be better for this case
not in this language
pattern matching
if there's any need to destructure data or check types, I tend to use match
if, on the other hand, the task is strictly conditional, then, usually, if-elif-else chains are better for Python
if x >= 90:
...
elif x >= 80:
...
elif x >= 70:
...
elif x >= 65:
...
else:
...
ML/Haskell derivatives often have better ways to match values in this form
swift valley
C# has relational patterns:
string WaterState(int tempInFahrenheit) =>
tempInFahrenheit switch
{
(> 32) and (< 212) => "liquid",
< 32 => "solid",
> 212 => "gas",
32 => "solid/liquid transition",
212 => "liquid / gas transition",
};
which I find neat
vocal basin
ah, yes x is > 0 and < 10 thing, I forgot
I guess, my brain just considered C#'s new switch an ML derivative in that regard because F# exists
(C# 8 being "new")
that's 2019
semantic versioning
(which neither projects actually follow)
major.minor.patch
major -- breaking changes
minor -- backwards-compatible
patch -- forwards-compatible
terse needle
C# has relational patterns:
```cs
string WaterState(int tempInFahrenheit) =>
...
Fahrenheit 🤮
vocal basin
time to see how much wrong my untested code is
!e
import bisect
grades = [
(65, 0, "D"),
(70, 0, "C"),
(80, 0, "B"),
(90, 0, "A"),
]
def grade_of(score: int) -> str:
ix = bisect.bisect_right(grades, (score, 1))
if ix:
*_, grade = grades[ix - 1]
return grade
else:
return "F"
print(grade_of(64), grade_of(65), grade_of(66))
print(grade_of(69), grade_of(70), grade_of(71))
print(grade_of(79), grade_of(80), grade_of(81))
print(grade_of(89), grade_of(90), grade_of(91))
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001 | F D D
002 | D C C
003 | C B B
004 | B A A
less than 100 wpm, definitely
I also make mistakes often
typewriters had limits on typing speed to avoid jamming
(same reason why common letters are somewhat far apart)
that one is a separate machine
phonetics-based machine to record speeches
vocal basin
phonetics-based machine to record speeches
stenotype/stenograph
The website of the California Official Court Reporters Association (COCRA) gives the official record for American English as 375 wpm.
180~225 is considered normal with it
because you later have to spend time decoding parts of the text
(stenotypes do not use normal letter sets)