voice-chat-text-0

[sleek widget]

not sure why

all the folders follow a naming convention

like

when i call this cell from my jupyter notebook

[somber heath]

!f-strings

[wise cargo]

Creating a Python string with your variables using the + operator can be difficult to write and read. F-strings (format-strings) make it easy to insert values into a string. If you put an f in front of the first quote, you can then put Python expressions between curly braces in the string.

>>> snake = "pythons"
>>> number = 21
>>> f"There are {number * 2} {snake} on the plane."
"There are 42 pythons on the plane."

Note that even when you include an expression that isn't a string, like number * 2, Python will convert it to a string for you.

[somber heath]

Bookmark for later.

[sleek widget]

thank u

yeah

and when i run this cell

the first iteration of the inner for loop

it's on my local machine

the first iteration of the inner for loop moves the contents of the directory i want to move into the correct directory, but doesn't keep them in the folder

but it moved the rest of the folders without deleting the folder itself

[somber heath]

!d shutil.copy

[wise cargo]

shutil.copy

shutil.copy(src, dst, *, follow_symlinks=True)```
Copies the file *src* to the file or directory *dst*. *src* and *dst* should be [path-like objects](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-path-like-object) or strings. If *dst* specifies a directory, the file will be copied into *dst* using the base filename from *src*. If *dst* specifies a file that already exists, it will be replaced. Returns the path to the newly created file.

If *follow\_symlinks* is false, and *src* is a symbolic link, *dst* will be created as a symbolic link. If *follow\_symlinks* is true and *src* is a symbolic link, *dst* will be a copy of the file *src* refers to.

[`copy()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/shutil.html#shutil.copy "shutil.copy") copies the file data and the file’s permission mode (see [`os.chmod()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.chmod "os.chmod")). Other metadata, like the file’s creation and modification times, is not preserved. To preserve all file metadata from the original, use [`copy2()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/shutil.html#shutil.copy2 "shutil.copy2") instead.

[sleek widget]

its just on the first iteration

like

i want to move folderA - C into folder1

folderB-C moves correctly

but only the content of folder A is put into folder1

yeah i think so

i believe so

like when i write it out

it follows the naming convention

[somber heath]

@worldly whale 👋

[worldly whale]

hey

I can't talk, aparently

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@crisp birch 👋

[crisp birch]

Hi

[mint loom]

!paste

[wise cargo]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[somber heath]

@humble hornet @glossy pilot 👋

[glossy pilot]

hi

[humble hornet]

Hey

[glossy pilot]

do u work on sir lancebot?

[somber heath]

!SOURCE

[wise cargo]

Bot's GitHub Repository

Repository

Go to GitHub

[somber heath]

Hm. Nope.

Not that one.

.source

[viscid lagoon]

Sir Lancebot's GitHub Repository

Repository

Go to GitHub

[glossy pilot]

im stuck on something where should i get help?

[verbal zenith]

#1035199133436354600

[somber heath]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[vocal basin]

caching?

or, like, paging

https://youtu.be/F8sZRBdmqc0

[vocal basin]

almost 2 hours of talk on caching

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/8Oerxbx.mp4

[vocal basin]

topology

[verbal zenith]

hello 👋

[vocal basin]

there are different ways to loop also

like, projective space

2D->3D by adding the time dimension

[somber heath]

@final osprey👋

[vocal basin]

NN isn't a set of decisions
decision tree is

first can be used to generate the second sometimes

[final osprey]

Hey, are you familiar with discord.py?

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/J91om6p.mp4

[vocal basin]

although for understandable and logical decisions there are better options

[somber heath]

Worley noise based.

[vocal basin]

#discord-bots
any particular question?

something went wrong

(distance measurement, to be precise)

[vocal basin]

or something else

[somber heath]

@karmic imp👋

[vocal basin]

30s

512x512

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/jvNc4B0.png https://i.imgur.com/UNFrTTm.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/EuWarFU.png

[karmic imp]

hello

[vocal basin]

I can get rid of the very varied colours at the start of the process but I probably won't

this part

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/ZFQj9Ps.png w/ postprocessing

[vocal basin]

this is not a pathing thing

the colour starts at (0,0,0,0,0) not random

it walks uniformly in the 5D space

like

[vocal basin]

the thing that it should do is walk randomly on 5D sphere surface

median

[vocal basin]

I used median for getting rid of small noise before I figured out other ways

[somber heath]

https://i.imgur.com/wso734n.png Interference pattern.

[vocal basin]

something changed

[willow gate]

@somber heath Hello

[willow gate]

?

[vocal basin]

it's a projective plane (or homeomorphic to it)

[willow gate]

@somber heath did you know how to view save session in terminal mac os?

i have use bye forever command

[somber heath]

@indigo sundial👋

[willow gate]

ok

[willow gate]

guys what is this patterns

[vocal basin]

DFS mostly

[vocal basin]

it would be 20s if I didn't forget to change back to stack

topology is less noticeable here

I have background colour configured to red-purple mix

what's shown in VC is very unpredictable

[vocal basin]

they depend on scale even

[somber heath]

@indigo sundial👋

@frigid estuary👋

@ionic bloom👋

[sharp urchin]

hello @willow lynx

i couldnt hear you ...sorry...did you call me or sum?

ohk mb

[vocal basin]

@uncut meteor
could you repeat, please?

I know that ffmpeg somehow determines whether it's a file or a link

ffmpeg -i something

[vocal basin]

I should probably replace the colour rotation with something else
(because right now each channel is guaranteed to hit 0 at least once during the video)

[vocal basin]

this colouring adds 20~50% overhead because it does normalisation at each step

@somber heath
"day-night-day" (colours accidentally aligned this way)

I almost fixed the topology

the main thing left is to calculate distances correctly

[uncut meteor]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/guild-template#get-guild-template

[somber heath]

Neato.

[vocal basin]

one of two fixed

[somber heath]

Pink seaweed coral.

@frozen badger👋

[uncut meteor]

hiberbee

[vocal basin]

"white theme ensures that whoever screenshotted those tokens, will have less problems printing them" or something

[vocal basin]

second one might be fixed too (am not sure)

[somber heath]

@fleet siren👋

[fleet siren]

Hi

[vocal basin]

can hear

[somber heath]

@feral blaze👋

@hybrid hill👋

@gusty radish👋

[gusty radish]

hey

whats bella doin

[whole bear]

I'm reviewing a PR

[vocal basin]

if I added the time as a dimension and if I did it the same way as the space dimensions are done currently, the video would not loop perfectly

the end frame would be flipped compared to the start frame

[somber heath]

Yes, it doesn't work as well with the BFS.

Or are you talking about just the colours?

[vocal basin]

(current thing for space dimensions is not modulo)

visualisation:

(3x3)

it doesn't just repeat, it flips

[somber heath]

!e py try: raise ValueError except (IndexError, ValueError): print("Caught")

[wise cargo]

@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Caught

[hoary olive]

Hello AF, Opal

AF are these images random or like based on some sort of pattern/image?

[somber heath]

!e py try: raise ValueError except IndexError: print("A") except ValueError: print("B")

[wise cargo]

@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

B

[vocal basin]

algorithmically generated (with some usages of random)

[vocal basin]

and this is just one generated result repeated 9 times and manually stitched together

[hoary olive]

Based on your own algorithm or a pre-existing algorithm?

[somber heath]

@dark spade👋

@left eagle👋

[vocal basin]

I extended an existing algorithm ( from #media-processing message )

[hoary olive]

How much time does it take to generate an image by default?

[vocal basin]

512x512, depending on settings, takes around 6~60 seconds

[vocal basin]

and 30~90s for the video

[hoary olive]

it would be cool to generate some SSL encryption keys from these , by just making some frames hue change, grayscale etc....

Recall cloudfare used to do that with lava lamps

[vocal basin]

there are reasons why they chose to do that and not use purely algorithmic generators

these images are predictable

[hoary olive]

fair enough

[hoary olive]

very weird transitions between frames

[vocal basin]

this merges four separate source spaces

there's quite a lot I'd have to change to introduce time as a dimension
at least, the thing for colour rotation would be incompatible

(the video is just how it works now with rotation)

I also have a thing for a different brightness distribution, but I think it's too bright

[stuck furnace]

[somber heath]

@pulsar harbor👋

[stuck furnace]

Sorry my Discord client is dying 😓

[somber heath]

@mighty island 👋

@gloomy minnow👋

@haughty thistle👋

[sick cove]

2023-02-26 19:41:39 ERROR discord.ext.commands.bot Ignoring exception in command help
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\ST\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python311\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 229, in wrapped
ret = await coro(*args, **kwargs)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "d:\main (1).py", line 83, in help
embed=discord.embed(title="help", description="This command displays all the commands available to use with this bot")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'discord' has no attribute 'embed'

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\ST\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python311\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\bot.py", line 1349, in invoke
await ctx.command.invoke(ctx)
File "C:\Users\ST\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python311\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 1023, in invoke
await injected(*ctx.args, **ctx.kwargs) # type: ignore
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "C:\Users\ST\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python311\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 238, in wrapped
raise CommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandInvokeError: Command raised an exception: AttributeError: module 'discord' has no attribute 'embed'

help pls

[warped raft]

hello @rustic mantle

how are you doing

[rustic mantle]

Hello sir

[hoary olive]

Hello Opal

is it two voices or one?

2 ppl talking from one mic is kinda confusing

[somber heath]

@whole bear 👋

[whole bear]

my mic is muted

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[stuck furnace]

Hullo

[somber heath]

Trie

[stuck furnace]

[vocal basin]

according to Wiktionary:
"trie" has either /ai/ or /iei/ or short /i/
whereas "tree" has long /i:/

/i/ is main one

both "tree" and "try" are listed as homophones (words with similar pronunciation)

[somber heath]

@blazing gull @thorny surge 👋

[thorny surge]

hello

[stuck furnace]

Clever way to implement a trie using defaultdict (I stole this from someone else): ```py
from collections import defaultdict

Trie = lambda: defaultdict(Trie)
STOP = object()

def add_word(trie, word):
node = trie
for char in word:
node = node[char]
node[STOP]

def contains(trie, word):
node = trie
for char in word:
if char not in node:
return False
node = node[char]
return STOP in node

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thorny surge]

how do you send code like that ?

[vocal basin]

!code

[wise cargo]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[hoary olive]

python doesnt even have Nodes?

[vocal basin]

Nodes in what sense?

[hoary olive]

protected class tree{
int value;
Node left;
Node right;
}

[vocal basin]

that should be generic

[hoary olive]

link list is data next

not left right

[whole bear]

this is my college python syllabus Basics: Python Interpreter, writing code in Jupyter Notebook, Indentation,
comments, importing a module, binary operators, standard scalar data
types, type casting, if-else statements, loops(while, for), pass, range, ternary
expressions.

[vocal basin]

reasons not to have this:
you can't add to this tree

[hoary olive]

this is just an example, im trying to say what i mean by Node

[whole bear]

Data Structures and Sequences: Tuples, Lists and slicing, Built-in Sequence
functions, Dictionary, Sets; List, Set, and Dict Comprehensions. Functions:
Namespaces, Scope, and Local Functions; Returning Multiple Values

[vocal basin]

!d typing.MutableSequence

[wise cargo]

typing.MutableSequence

class typing.MutableSequence(Sequence[T])```
A generic version of [`collections.abc.MutableSequence`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.abc.html#collections.abc.MutableSequence "collections.abc.MutableSequence").

Deprecated since version 3.9: [`collections.abc.MutableSequence`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.abc.html#collections.abc.MutableSequence "collections.abc.MutableSequence") now supports subscripting (`[]`). See [**PEP 585**](https://peps.python.org/pep-0585/) and [Generic Alias Type](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#types-genericalias).

[whole bear]

Functions: Anonymous (Lambda) Functions, Partial Argument Application,
Generators. Objects and Methods in Python. NumPy: creating N-dimensional
arrays, arithmetic with NumPy arrays, basic indexing and slicing,
Psuedorandom number generation.

[vocal basin]

binary trees for practical uses aren't simple

[whole bear]

Unit IV
Pandas: Overview of Series and DataFrames, reading data from csv file,
DataFrame operations- working with data using functions like head, tail ,
info, shape, reshape, columns, isnull, dropna, mean, sum, describe,
value_counts, corr, loc, iloc, apply.
Unit V
Matplotlib- plotting basic figures, subplots, line plots, bar plots, histograms,
scatter plots. Overview of Scikit-learn, SciPy, networkx. Basic Errors and
Exception handling. Basic File Handling. Applications of python.

[vocal basin]

what type of binary tree to pick depends a lot on the task

[vocal basin]

methods of this, I guess

lists mostly, probably

[whole bear]

@somber heath how was my syllabus

I'm from india

[wise cargo]

Hey @thorny surge!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[hoary olive]

i think they mean, lists, strings, tuples, etc...
as python builtin sequences

[thorny surge]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/oxazuqubum

lol

[somber heath]

@distant sonnet #media-processing message

[thorny surge]

so you do some yu gi oh art

[vocal basin]

I haven't yet tried to do any post-processing beyond just applying median

[thorny surge]

😄

man this thign of sending the code here is really difficult for me

and I hate vscode]

[hoary olive]

wassup Anokhi

[thorny surge]

yu gi oh the back of the cards

what is it ?

remembers me the clayman

yu gi oh gx

[hoary olive]

am i the only person who has no clue what anyone is saying ? 😆

[thorny surge]

how does one effect mess with other ?

could I send a picture ?

[hoary olive]

how was your coffee lx ?

[willow gate]

hhi

[wise cargo]

@cunning lake :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 1
002 |     print (“how are you Opal mist?”)
003 |            ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid character '“' (U+201C)

[somber heath]

@verbal fox👋

[cunning lake]

!e print ("Hello Opal")

[wise cargo]

@cunning lake :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello Opal

[willow gate]

@somber heath Hello

can you type?

i didn't hear

[somber heath]

I said "Were you ever to woo, would you then be known as 'Romanticore'?"

[willow gate]

Lol

https://play.typeracer.com?rt=1bjlere3v1

will you like to join

typing race

ok

no problem

for dsa which language will better?

like python or c++

[somber heath]

Be more specific. What do you mean by DSA?

[willow gate]

data structure and algo

yes

talk

ok

ok

yes

python is good for ai?

just now leaning Access Modifiers in Python

i am watching a video

https://youtube.com/watch?v=43FK20rWvKQ&feature=shares

this guy is teaching python, this is hundred days course

[somber heath]

Name mangling.

[willow gate]

this is basic python course after completing can you suggest what stuff should i do

i can make some projects like library management

[somber heath]

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/classes.html#private-variables

[willow gate]

thanks this is useful

ok

now my exams will start from 6th there are some iot practicals

@somber heath which language you have learn first

@warped raft hi

[warped raft]

hello @willow gate

how are you doing buddy

hello @somber heath

[willow gate]

Are you from india ?

[warped raft]

yeah

[willow gate]

from where

[warped raft]

Uttar Pradesh

[willow gate]

nice i am from Maharashtra

[warped raft]

nice to meet you
aap kaise ho???

[willow gate]

mast

[willow gate]

In which class you are now?

[warped raft]

finished 8th moving to 9th

[willow gate]

@somber heath Bye

[willow gate]

nice

[warped raft]

you

[willow gate]

@warped raft Are you learning python

[warped raft]

yeah i am learning python along with java

[willow gate]

i am pursuing bsc computer science

[warped raft]

my dream

[willow gate]

nice did you watch code with harry

[warped raft]

yeah but now i mostly watch foriegn youtubers

[willow gate]

ok

[warped raft]

like tech with tim , bro code

etc

[willow gate]

you are learning on perfect time maintain the consistency

[warped raft]

ok

[warped raft]

surely

[willow gate]

in my 8-9 std even i didn't know about python

bye have some work

[warped raft]

bye

[somber heath]

Hello @left flower.

[left flower]

hello

can you help me

no i found it

i got it

LOL

sorry

import pygame
from pygame.locals import *

pygame.init()

screen_width = 500
screen_height = 500

bg_img = pygame.image.load('Pictures/Sky.PNG')

screen = pygame.display.set_mode((screen_width, screen_height))
pygame.display.set_caption('GHANEEM SUCKS')

run = True
while run:
    screen.blit(bg_img, (0, 0))
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            run = False
            pygame.display.update()


pygame.quit()```

so i did this right

but it wont display

it only display for a millesecond when i close the tab

I was gonna talk but i need to be within the sever for 3 days

oh

Im gonna be honest with you this is my first day coding

but i have experience of another language

from yt

I have to go

but msg in mobile

just send me some tutorials on msgs

for me

pls

sya

[somber heath]

https://youtu.be/jO6qQDNa2UY

[left flower]

Wait what should i do to learn python

[somber heath]

I've not watched this, myself, but Tech With Tim has a good rep.

!resources

[wise cargo]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[somber heath]

Corey Schafer, YouTuber, playlists.

[left flower]

Alr

Resources pages isn't useful for me o guess

[somber heath]

@last escarp 👋

[left flower]

Idk how to use it i guess

Alr do in hr opinion what should I do as I'm where do o start

And practise through it right

I do lol

So watch the ht tutorial and get familiar with the basocs

I think I got second part down

But alr thanks

Mhm

Alr ty

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-osiE80TeTskrapNbzXhwoFUiLCjGgY7

This one right

The one that has been here for 5 yrs

And probably outdated

I love you

Even tho I'm 13

And it's kinda

Weird

I love you

Alr ty and ty God they ain't 1 his vids

1 hr s vids

Auto correct socks man

I wrote sucks and it's writes socks

LOL

[last escarp]

ja

okey

this a goodidea

fine and you ? : )

ah okey

[somber heath]

@loud oracle 👋

[last escarp]

oh soory i called police

[vocal basin]

I got back to separating the bot into services
(I'll probably just try to make a proxy for the API for now)

[last escarp]

my phone is crazy

so tell me ?

no i didnt

my phonbe is broken

yes i need to repeaire it

how long have you been learning python ?

intersting !

i ma learning it since 3

month

[vocal basin]

moving from aiohttp to FastAPI

[loud oracle]

Hi

[worn holly]

why i cant speak -_-

[somber heath]

!voice

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

@true crow 👋

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[somber heath]

I'll join when the song I'm listening to finishes.

[hoary olive]

k

[somber heath]

plus time

[vocal basin]

the bot in terms of size is at 4 containers now
and there still are reasons to separate it even further

also, discord display bug (just above cursor):

[hoary olive]

docker?

[somber heath]

Four?

[vocal basin]

yes, Docker
(no need for kubernetes yet)

[vocal basin]

bot itself
caching service
web API
documentation

[hoary olive]

you have a docker container for documentation?

[vocal basin]

yes, to build and host it more easily

[hoary olive]

Its for a discord bot?

[vocal basin]

yes

[vocal basin]

the fifth is going to be responsible for oauth (for the web client)

[hoary olive]

what are you trying to cache?

[vocal basin]

some media files used by the bot are stored in the separate service (Nextcloud) in the less suitable format

[vocal basin]

I'm not "trying" to cache; I'm caching and quite confidently succeeding at it

[vocal basin]

I miscounted, caching is two services not one

[hoary olive]

discord has a CDN

why use your own ache

[vocal basin]

and how are you going to use it for files of >8MB?

[vocal basin]

latency.

[hoary olive]

sorry missed contex i was out

Hello kirti

[vocal basin]

the management isn't responsible enough to word things otherwise

[hoary olive]

You got married kirti?

[hoary olive]

Reasonable. Highly doubt a large sum of files >8MB being uploaded though

4k60 for ~10-15 seconds would be ~10MB

[vocal basin]

@willow lynx this sounds a lot like they just look for reasons to fire you

[vocal basin]

now I have to choose the DB for this thing

[somber heath]

@orchid crown👋

[orchid crown]

hi

[orchid crown]

yeah damn, I don't have permissions for speaking 😦

Looks like i gotta send 50 messages and be here for 3 days

aw dang! I wanted to talk as well

[hoary olive]

depends, ouath with what? what platform

[vocal basin]

discord's oauth2 for applications

[vocal basin]

so, storing tokens for a week

[orchid crown]

@willow lynx that comes from experience not teaching

@somber heath

[hoary olive]

Cassandra

[orchid crown]

[vocal basin]

why distributed?

@willow lynx
for retention model thing you actually had a specific issue (too much rows)
identifying specific problems (which you did that time) will help
even if you don't see a solution, that doesn't yet mean that you have zero idea of what to do
so, to ask a question, you should probably mention issues you ran into

[vocal basin]

teaching and learning are experience too

[vocal basin]

key-value store is enough
(session token -> discord token mapping)

[vocal basin]

should probably be hash(session token) -> discord token

although, eh, unreasonable security is better than no security for this case

[hoary olive]

SQLLite then?

[vocal basin]

discord token needs to be in plain text or in a decryptable form, so the service would be able to use it

and discord token has way more value than session token

[somber heath]

@whole bear I'm putting you on the spot, here, for which I apologise. Am I correct in my understanding you mentioned one of your professors is a data scientist? Would you happen to know any really good resources beyond Python Discord? @willow lynx needs some good resources/a guru/sage advice.

[orchid crown]

@somber heath how ya doin

[vocal basin]

current solution basically uses dict which is (reliably) backed up on disk

[orchid crown]

Since I can't really speak, we might as well chat

oof

Ouch

I take it that you're from England or close? or am I completely mistaken and you're an Aussie 👀

Oh dang

ahaha

You sound like you're quite older 👀

30s ?

[vocal basin]

I may choose SQLite for this (no real need for something else yet)
or some BerkleyDB fork

[orchid crown]

lmao

I don't wanna be creepy or something

[warped raft]

hello @somber heath

[orchid crown]

I'd talk in vc

but dang the server rules

so strict

ah I get it

[somber heath]

@vagrant pendant 👋

[orchid crown]

so bad

atleast you didn't get p*rn sounds

lmao, right that's fair

yeah Imma be stickin around here

You got a hub?

ah okay

[vocal basin]

https://github.com/bloomberg/comdb2

bloomberg

[hoary olive]

ruined a perfect fun endgame

[orchid crown]

what kinda work you do with python specifically, like is it exclusive to your work or part of larger projects

Oh okay thats fine

Yeah I don't use python that much at all

anything I wrote was when I was forced to write during school

[hoary olive]

wouldn't SQLLite be more convienient

[orchid crown]

It was "forced" because I was supposed to work with 2 other people

instead I had to "all" the work

I love programming my man

Just not when I am forced to do the work of 2 other people and they get equal credit

[vocal basin]

depends
SQLite is easy out of SQL RDBMSes
but BDB provides some easier interfaces sometimes

[orchid crown]

anyway

[hoary olive]

interface as in?

[orchid crown]

other than that, I've been a hobbyist for a little close to 2 years now

mhm

anyway, I've been mostly interested in systems programming

[vocal basin]

ways/options how to use something

[orchid crown]

@somber heath lmao yeah

anyway

Oh dang! another tea lover

I love both tea and coffee equally actually

@willow lynx hi

@somber heath particle physicist she said

idk

some US person

Specialists in another field will replace programmers if they start writing good code, thankfully they do not

who, kirti

ah okay

[vocal basin]

most of my early python experience was at school
(we had one of the best teachers in the city)

@somber heath we've already established their hiring process is questionable

[orchid crown]

he's particle physicist turned data scientists, she said earlier

[orchid crown]

TCS?

Wipro?

which company

Oh by the way, I'll be moving in a few months

pretty big change in my life

[vocal basin]

I can just copy-paste this and say it's okay

[orchid crown]

I'll be moving to canada to my Uncle to study Computer Science there
CS education here is terribly terrible

@somber heath you there?

@obsidian dragon hello

how you doing?

[obsidian dragon]

hi

[orchid crown]

how's it going

ahahaha

Dr. Seed

I do plant surgery

and there's a leaf next to my name

makes sense rite

@somber heath @obsidian dragon alright boys, I'm headin' out. See ya

[worn holly]

but i with milk)))

[vocal basin]

I need to do devops right now

[somber heath]

@pearl panther 👋

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mist

@lapis thunder

[lapis thunder]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpt.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FChevrolet_Opala&psig=AOvVaw1gtfr0Gd-SzcUK8hpSwQxb&ust=1677592767416000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCOjNzpnutf0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tricurioso.com%2F2018%2F04%2F15%2Fvoce-sabe-qual-a-diferenca-entre-neblina-nevoa-e-nevoeiro%2F&psig=AOvVaw3SoQJxglWvYSMCAsfclE_D&ust=1677592838727000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCOD0y7vutf0CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

[willow gate]

@somber heath hello

[somber heath]

@whole bear👋

[willow gate]

@rugged root Hello

@rugged root where are you from?

Bye guys

ok no problem

[vocal basin]

"sir who?"

[vocal basin]

lucky commit, I guess
(20 ones at the beginning)

why are there that many "Git"s

[vocal basin]

currently trying to fix some microservice thing

[somber heath]

One moment.

[vocal basin]

the "fixing" part may be done
(but I still have to finish some changes)

zip_longest+reduce?

@midnight agate there's a challenge but I'm too lazy to find the same problem on LeetCode
https://www.codewars.com/kata/54da539698b8a2ad76000228
additional limitations (I chose to impose those on myself for fun):
use only one variable to store the state (the variable must be int)

solving it normally takes less than 10 minutes for sure
solving it the way I did would take a lot more

full list of constraints:
#voice-chat-text-0 message

[cunning lake]

!e print ('Hello')

[wise cargo]

@cunning lake :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello

[rugged root]

I have only just now gotten a chance to sit

I have been a very busy Hemlock

[vocal basin]

I have successfully split the bot
(and I intend on splitting it more because there still are things that have reasons to exist separately)

[dense ibex]

That’s disrespectful

It’s a little long

that’s what she said

jams of code

So I found out the snowflake id generator cluster I made can generate that many ids per ms

1024 nodes each that can do 4096 ids a second

yes ofc

but that’s the theoretical limit

Due to limitations of the id

[hoary olive]

Hello 8080, Opal, AF, Hem, merdique

[dense ibex]

hello yes I am crappy

[somber heath]

I mean, shit, it's in the name.

[rugged root]

"Man this animal is just shit."
"Ah yeah, that'd be the crappybara"

[hoary olive]

Knew a guy who had hacked a old soviet sattalite - he said it wasn't as hard as you'd think

not sure on what skill base its not "as hard"

[rugged root]

"Huh... username and password were "guest""

[somber heath]

He must have guessed it.

[hoary olive]

i presume not

[rugged root]

HA

"I hacked a satellite"
"Cool, not sure how that'll help you with this Wendy's job."

[somber heath]

@jade knot 👋

[amber raptor]

most satellite probably rely on the fact that transmitting on those frequencies is illegal

[rugged root]

True

[hoary olive]

Hello rabbit, bazinga

[rugged root]

@mild quartz Sup brah

[mild quartz]

bruh

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/6NeF.gif

Back in just a moment

[vocal basin]

encryption may make error correction harder in some cases

[amber raptor]

https://www.radioreference.com/db/aid/7734

[somber heath]

@halcyon bone 👋

[rugged root]

Disco antenna?

Bolton?

Ah

[rugged root]

Check out the #voice-verification channel

That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate system

@amber raptor I'm still chuckling about the Missouri comment

[halcyon bone]

ahh okayy

[rugged root]

That's what she said

Haven't in over a decade

Do we?

I don't mind it

[hoary olive]

You have a youtube channel 8080?

[lucid blade]

maybe 😛

https://youtube.com/hakology

https://youtube.com/hakologyvblog

too 😉

[rugged root]

All programming is fair game

No no

[hoary olive]

sudo is bloatware ;)

[lucid blade]

lol always run as root ?

😉

[rugged root]

@dusk raven Suuuuuup

[lucid blade]

chmod 777

also all my videos are shit

😄

[hoary olive]

was hotjar sponsered 🤔

[rugged root]

What is that?

[verbal zenith]

You guys ever see how many people try to bruteforce ssh logins on random servers

[rugged root]

At least 5

[lucid blade]

bots

[rugged root]

Hey Lyapz

[lucid blade]

all bots

[verbal zenith]

I have a vps and I looked at the sshd logs and there are a shitton lmao

[verbal zenith]

made by people

lol

[lucid blade]

but still bots

setup a honeypot

[verbal zenith]

I know there's not people sitting at their keyboard typing passwords in

Well maybe...

[lucid blade]

u can have a virtual terminal and watch them

[hoary olive]

are you thinking of removing your G+ Community link 8080?

[lucid blade]

its fun

honey pot is set to login with any uname n pass

[verbal zenith]

Yeah they found my server within a day and there were like 20 different connections repeatedly trying to guess my ssh password

[lucid blade]

then you can see them fucking around in a virtual shell

[verbal zenith]

lmao

I want to do that actually

That sounds hilarious

[lucid blade]

lemme see if i can remember the package

[hoary olive]

Isnt honeypots used for detecting Ad removers ?

[rugged root]

nasm?

[lucid blade]

google 'kippo' @verbal zenith idk if its still secure but thats what i was using

you could run it inside a container

[rugged root]

MyPy

[verbal zenith]

You did?

Yeah I haven't tried yet, I've just been working on something else lately.

I'm excited to give it a go though.

[rugged root]

@lucid blade Rather not have something like that linked on the server, dude

[lucid blade]

which ?

[rugged root]

The Endlessh

[lucid blade]

the ssh thingy?

[rugged root]

Yar

[lucid blade]

ok nw

😉

funny though 😄

[rugged root]

Like we can talk broad strokes just not specific implementation

!rule 5

[wise cargo]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, or are malicious or inappropriate.

[rugged root]

Plus there's always things you don't think of

Yarp

Injection?

Oh right

@dusk raven Later dude

@zenith radish Finally moved stuff back to the annex. Not everything is moved, have to speak quietly

But yeah

One sec

Warcraft?

What year is this

[lucid blade]

https://www.snort.org/#:~:text=What is Snort%3F,and generates alerts for users.

[pallid hazel]

being recorded?

[rugged root]

No, just a very echo heavy room, and I want to be considerate to my workplace

[pallid hazel]

start yoddeling

[rugged root]

Just standards and stuff

Port -3A

[vocal basin]

there's quite a lot of ways to allow service communication without having any relevant ports listening on the host

[graceful magnet]

I can't believe he managed to hack all this with one key he must be a very vicious hacker

[rugged root]

https://tenor.com/R7gi.gif

[vocal basin]

(services within one host)

[rugged root]

One host to find them

One host to bind them

[vocal basin]

minecraft servers get a lot of spam-ish attacks

[rugged root]

Unsurprising

[pallid hazel]

i meant quietly... just so the faint yoddeling could be heard.. after a bit see if anyone says outload... Riccola!

[lucid blade]

https://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

[vocal basin]

something's still trying to log onto my mail server
this is, like, an attack on my SSD given how much logs it generates

[rugged root]

Well this will take a little while

It stops them looking at your other ports

Exactly

Odds are good that their script will look until they gain "access"

[vocal basin]

or the same port but different credentials

[rugged root]

Right

Neat

How'd that go?

@stuck furnace Hey buuuuuudddddddddddddy

@zenith radish I'm.... honestly surprised Python wouldn't be that for you

[vocal basin]

C PreProcessor?

[rugged root]

Charles: Penny Pincher

I mean... anything web has to play well with HTML

Lot of support

[vocal basin]

rewrite in Haskell

[rugged root]

@molten pewter Sup

[molten pewter]

sup

[rugged root]

Tired

[molten pewter]

D3, atm

[rugged root]

Neat

[molten pewter]

Nap? probably not... caffeine?

[rugged root]

Did that

It's more like

[limpid umbra]

@rugged root the house looks full , wheres the free pizza

[rugged root]

I moved stuff back into the annex, so I'm exhausted from that

[molten pewter]

how many steps did you get?

[rugged root]

Meh

[vocal basin]

within the safe effort put into it, some high-level languages yield better performing code than lower-level ones

[vocal basin]

example: Rust and B-trees

[limpid umbra]

ASM is mighty fast ...

[molten pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowskiopinion-my-opinion-gif-12810347

[vocal basin]

C, C++, Rust and ASM often result in code of the same runtime speed

[vocal basin]

also, you can always modify the compiler or the intermediate code itself if you need that

Electron...

[vocal basin]

there was a meme about it

[zenith radish]

https://os-system.com/blog/javascript-in-space-spacex-devs-have-shared-crewdragons-tech-stack/

[cunning lake]

!e I_Am_Batmen = True
I_Am_Robin = False

If your Robin Check that your Robin

if I_Am_Robin and I_Am_Batmen:
print("I am Robin and i do not like Batmen")

If your not Batmen print I am Robin

if not I_Am_Batmen:
print("I am not Bat Men")

[wise cargo]

@cunning lake :warning: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[vocal basin]

something on these lines
(but it was a twitter screenshot)

[cunning lake]

some help ?

[rugged root]

What's the confusion?

With and, both sides need to evaluate to True

Also, since I_Am_Batmen is True, the last if statement would evaluate the False

[vocal basin]

"go back to mercury memory, it's very safe"

delay-line memory

[wise cargo]

@cunning lake :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

I am not Bat Men

[limpid umbra]

Q - how much magnetic flux do you need to flip a bit in rope memory

[lucid blade]

transport tycoon was also coded in assembly

❤️

i still play openttd

[limpid umbra]

@lucid blade do you have a favorite microcontroller ( uC ) using ASM ?

[lucid blade]

no im so out of touch with things these days

most of my projects i use esp / arduino

at the electronics place we were using small pic microcontrollers

not even sure what they were using for development as at the time i was working in production

@whole bear dont do that 😦

phrasing dude this is not ok in chat.

[rugged root]

Yeah not the best thing to say

[vestal stone]

capital gain

based on time also

[rugged root]

Neat

@silent sequoia Yo

@golden lance If you're wondering why you can't talk, check out the #voice-verification channel

[golden lance]

ok

[rugged root]

That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate

[west junco]

Surprised about how strict the voice gate is.

[rugged root]

We had an issue with hit and run trolls. Folks who would join the server, join voice chat, scream, and then leave. This was happening 8+ times a day

Hasn't happened since

[west junco]

I guessed that is what happened to be honest. It is going to be hard to get to 50 messages since I only came here for advice...trying to figure out which channel to post my question. I already posted it in #game-development

[rugged root]

I'll take a look

#❓｜how-to-get-help will tell you how to use the help system, that'll likely be your best bet

[west junco]

Sounds good! Thanks

[rugged root]

Any time

https://www.youtube.com/@Slingshotchannel

[gentle flint]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5X1njhZZn2FsSt4jAzCpZG?si=30dZ2d_gQZaXH9tuklTx6Q

[novel tangle]

just created using stable diffusion

[lucid blade]

https://soundcloud.com/tripaddict/trip-addict-2023-fresh-heavy-dark-dnb

enjoy there's a download link in the description on SC

[stuck furnace]

If I try to work and listen to a podcast at the same time, I just end up listening to the podcast and not doing any work 🤔

[novel tangle]

listen to darknet dairy

[rugged root]

Same. I have to listen to music without lyrics for the same reason

[novel tangle]

https://darknetdiaries.com/

[lucid blade]

megabrands documentary channel 4 ?

ADAM CURTIS

[novel tangle]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7MaJD5vZsNSNrKQVEk5gbD?si=ZaD40kPSSaeWQ24o-OLTvw

[lucid blade]

integza, post-apocalyptic inventor, colin furze, james bruton

[novel tangle]

https://open.spotify.com/show/5N6g8n6084T5D6Q67yGCUX?si=2fcb4eebf4294654

[lucid blade]

https://www.youtube.com/@jamesbruton

https://youtu.be/5BfRg9CUMYI

[novel tangle]

me

[stuck furnace]

Ooh, what are you working on?

[novel tangle]

text to video using stable diffusion

[stuck furnace]

!help remind

!remind @molten pewter 8M Do thing

[wise cargo]

Sure.

Your reminder will arrive on <t:1677527561:F> and will mention 1 other(s)!

ID: 5697

[novel tangle]

wfo started?

[stuck furnace]

Fake it till you make it lol

[lucid blade]

IT IS NOT ALLOWED!

lol 😛

[wise cargo]

@molten pewter

It has arrived!

Here's your reminder: Do thing
[Jump back to when you created the reminder](#voice-chat-text-0 message)

[molten pewter]

thank you 😄

[lucid blade]

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[novel tangle]

Is anybody familiar with the mainframe?

cobol

Brute force becoming quick as AI tools are improving.

public key and private key are like door nob lock and key

@verbal zenith https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/ssh-copy-id

750

0755 = User:rwx Group:r-x World:r-x

0750 = User:rwx Group:r-x World:---

no it totally depends on you

bye gn

[thin drift]

hi @verbal zenith

[limpid umbra]

@lucid blade James Bruton has some cool ideas , increasing RC channels is something to work on

[rugged root]

https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Debugger

I shall return

[vocal basin]

R-tree thing?

oh, spatialite, maybe

I once almost participated in some GIS project

[boreal pendant]

hey guys i have something to askk ... so here is the thing i have a project to build an e-commerce using python django reactjs does anyone has a source i can a complete project cuz am running out of the time

[junior ermine]

hey nahita

[silent mica]

oh hi

i was re-discovering the other parts of the server and found here, although it's been quite for ~2 hours

oh yes, thanks, i'm more of a listener than a speaker

oh it was the last week?

sad...

oh

[orchid crown]

@somber heath hello again

I am back again today

How's you doing

@lucid pine skill issue

Lua doesn't suck

[lucid pine]

It has it's use cases and is extremely fast, embeddable and small, but I found it a bit infuriating to use. I don't really complain about it anymore as I dont have to use it

[somber heath]

@willow lynx You sell your thyme for money.

[orchid crown]

somebody give me voice perms

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[wise cargo]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[orchid crown]

I can't even talk 😦

[orchid crown]

i know

I don't fulfill requirements

[lucid pine]

I think because theyre new?

[orchid crown]

yes

[lucid pine]

Eitherway, welcome!

[orchid crown]

thanks

I just need to be here for 2 more days now

[somber heath]

@rigid trellis👋

[vocal basin]

can hear

[somber heath]

@hexed yew👋

[vocal basin]

I have to have my system volume at 96% because temporary hearing issues (that just happens sometimes)

[somber heath]

@whole bear👋

[vocal basin]

it seems to usually be a result of stress
(maybe blood pressure, maybe something else; idk the exact mechanism)

[rugged root]

🦷 :30

[vocal basin]

phonetic anarchy

/tri/ with short /i/

and tree has the long sound

origin similar to cat (the command)

concatenation

retrieval

[rugged root]

If at first you don't succeed, trie trie again

[somber heath]

https://www.greenmatters.com/news/2018/02/19/2m3wBf/border-collies-forest

[rugged root]

That dog just looks so stoked to be helping

[hoary olive]

Hello Hem, Maro, Opal, SMR, Void, AF

Do you have all xserver packages installed maro?

Generally debain sucks with drivers, im not sure why. it also didnt detect my monitor for some reason

[rugged root]

It really is weird

Ubuntu isn't bad about them

Although Debian is behind a lot?

I feel like someone mentioned that before

[vocal basin]

I'm searching whether I have any specific question/problem to suggest

[hoary olive]

I use Ubuntu currently, but i have used Arch, Fedora, Mint, Non-systemd operating systems before aswell

Debian based just works best. but Fedora is awesome

[vocal basin]

https://www.codewars.com/kata/5eb41688a4f64f00283ac681

[hoary olive]

@midnight agate https://github.com/sriemer/fix-linux-mouse TLDR;
generallyu seems sudo apt install x11-utils xbindkeys xautomation are the best for fixing mouse issues on linux

[somber heath]

@whole bear👋

[vocal basin]

you're given a list of names of all chemical elements

and you're given a word to combine them into

[orchid crown]

aaa

I have back

[vocal basin]

"card" -> "CaRd"
"car"  -> "CAr"
"r"    -> ""

[old heart]

does anyone else use tl:dr in their professional emails

[terse needle]

good question

I don't think so

[rugged root]

Depends who you're talking to. Co-workers on your team that you have a good repour with, yeah. Your boss? Noooo

[terse needle]

You would hope in a professional email that the person on the receiving end would read everything you have to say

[vocal basin]

recursion can be used for a simple solution

[vocal basin]

I think it will involve the stack anyway

[old heart]

coworkers, exec team, and managers. Frankly, people mindlessly scroll past subject matter but some don't and appreciate a good read. I try to accommodate both.

[vocal basin]

even if not recursive, I mean

[old heart]

perhaps replacing tl;dr with "summary" would be more professionally acceptable.

lol

its mainly marketing

they're.... sales people

no time to read 😛

[stuck furnace]

You can get a 2nd generation nano at Cex for like £20

[old heart]

They need to be that way to sell stuff.

Its a necessary evil and its why companies isolate them

Can't be a lie that way 😛

true.

then it falls on everyone else to fulfil the BS promises.

[orchid crown]

um um

[terse needle]

There is a Cex exactly where I am going tomorrow so I might have a look, brilliant name too they knew exactly what the were doing

[orchid crown]

[stuck furnace]

Lol

https://uk.webuy.com

Ah :C

It's a place where you can buy/sell second hand electronics

We used to just call it "the dodgy shop" because the one where I live looked super sketchy

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[old heart]

merica!

[rugged root]

Welcome to Hemlock's electronics boutique

https://youtu.be/9IB1LHbcI_Y

It's a good song

[somber heath]

@scenic garden👋

[rugged root]

@silent sequoia @scenic garden Yo to you both

[scenic garden]

👋

I'm just here to creep, don't mind me lol

[rugged root]

All good all good

Plenty of people treat here as a podcast

[old heart]

milk = inflammation

cancer is a default in the human body

inflammation

I drink gallons of it 😛

[somber heath]

Inflammation being a significant cancer risk factor is a thing.

[stuck furnace]

What have I walked in on 😄

[honest pier]

😇

[somber heath]

Milk may cause inflammation in some people.

[faint ermine]

apparently milk is bad now

liek, unhealthy?

i call bull

[old heart]

the oat lobby probably made it all up

oat milk lol

I'm a farmer 😛

[honest pier]

Big Oat

[old heart]

my brother does the farming, but I live on the farm

grain farm

I worked in agriculture for 15 years doing precision agriculture

😛

there is snow now

[faint ermine]

Approximately 65% of the population suffers from lactose intolerance,
huh thats more than i thought

[old heart]

come visit in June

[honest pier]

a lot of asians

[old heart]

in Canada we only single crop.

[honest pier]

not me though 😤

[somber heath]

Precision agriculture? What, you use a sniper rifle to shoot corn cobs off the stalks from 100 yards?

Well...grains.

[old heart]

centimeter precision placements of plants

[somber heath]

Not corn.

[old heart]

with 99%+ singulation in corn/beans

[honest pier]

what's the benefit of that?

[old heart]

increases the efficacy of fertilizer uptake

[honest pier]

oh cool

[somber heath]

@keen marlin👋

[old heart]

ubiquitous soil structure, disease control

[stuck furnace]

Hemlock's got his subdued professional voice on today 🧐

[old heart]

decrease fuel consumption, compaction

[honest pier]

🧐 🤨

[stuck furnace]

Oh nice. How'd it go?

Yeah you are a bit quiet.

[old heart]

in Austrailia in the northern flood plains they do controlled traffic terrace farming

land forming with RTK, creating a perfect grade so the rain soaks evenly across the whole field.

I could go on like this for hours.

[stuck furnace]

Are there even valleys in Florida? 😄

[honest pier]

yes, pits of death, with crocodiles

[old heart]

we also use lidar in agriculture for topographic mapping 😛

[honest pier]

😩

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lots of floating point calculations

[somber heath]

Rappin' burritos.

[rugged tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KijAPJXjg8c

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https://tenor.com/view/shawarma-gif-24404921

me again

had a teams call

[somber heath]

Guacamole is good.

Fresh.

[stuck furnace]

Yes.

[honest pier]

wtf is that emoji

[somber heath]

https://tenor.com/view/duel-slap-glove-i-challenge-you-to-a-duel-homer-gif-16137544

[old heart]

I screamed at him because he was undermining me.

[stuck furnace]

Also, don't use the letter e

[old heart]

I knocked over his stapler, and frowned menacingly.

[honest pier]

e

[old heart]

its doubleplus good

[stuck furnace]

no cap fr fr

[honest pier]

❌ 🧢

[stuck furnace]

🇫🇷 🇫🇷

[honest pier]

fr"fr"

cya

[old heart]

Mao would disagree.

Language defines culture.

Simple language = simple people

no offence to the Chinese

although........ the flip side, its a faster communication bandwidth

[scenic garden]

Right, nothing wrong with being simple

[old heart]

English contains an exorbitant amount of superfluous verbiage.

Mandarin would use comparative

[scenic garden]

Things are getting deep in here

[somber heath]

There's superfluous and there's reductionist.

[old heart]

Its all a spectrum, maaan

https://www.digmandarin.com/comparisons-in-chinese-structure-bi.html

[somber heath]

Superfluous. It is a good word and bears repeating.

" MONDAY -- The new creature says its name is Eve. That is all right, I have no objections. Says it is to call it by, when I want it to come. I said it was superfluous, then. The word evidently raised me in its respect; and indeed it is a large, good word and will bear repetition. It says it is not an It, it is a She. This is probably doubtful; yet it is all one to me; what she is were nothing to me if she would but go by herself and not talk. " - Mark Twain, Extracts From Adam's Diary.

[old heart]

My father could speak/read/write Icelandic.. but my family immigrated from Iceland in the 1800's. People would come to our farm to hear him speak because it was like a time capsule.

Canada

[amber raptor]

Icelandic is still spoken

[old heart]

Yes but the dialect was 150 years removed.

[stuck furnace]

You should see the state of de Nile

All that pollution

[old heart]

Amish

no?

We have the same with mennonites

and hutterites here

Hutterites now speak "hutterish"

I can understand some because low german is a little similar to Icelandic.. and they throw in the odd English word as well

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but do they have echidnas?

they're damn cute also