^ HELLO WORLD IN BRAINFUCK
#voice-chat-text-0
lucid blade
sharp urchin
whats tht?
lucid blade
*caps
lucid blade
yeh ik π
sharp urchin
8080?
steady token
to work with web development
vocal basin
to work with web development
C# has this
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/aspnet
sharp urchin
ahhhh!!!!1
lucid blade
yeh its been about since the 90s i think?
sharp urchin
must be some way to learn tht lang
i am guessing
if ones good with logic and mental ability
questions
steady token
C# has this
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/aspnet
thanks man
vocal basin
yeh its been about since the 90s i think?
they do improve it over time
it's not totally broken
steady token
if ones good with logic and mental ability
probably for a genius its possible
whats the logic behind it
sharp urchin
if they have a tut they have a logic
vocal basin
to work with web development
if you have freedom of choosing the language, then for web you should probably use JavaScript even for backend
there are some frameworks/libraries that provide way better integration in templating
or TypeScript
steady token
if you have freedom of choosing the language, then for web you should probably u...
but there is one that is better?
like, faster than others
vocal basin
like, faster than others
if you're doing something computation-heavy (for which you'd need the fast language), you'd probably be better off separating it into a separate serivce
whole bear
Just woke up from my long 8 hour nap and I still see both of you guys lol
vocal basin
if you're doing something computation-heavy (for which you'd need the fast langu...
if you really do need the speed for the web part itself, you're probably making APIs not the templating stuff
very much depends on the specific task
mint loom
hi how do i fix this
WARNING: The scripts pip, pip3 and pip3.10 are installed in '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.10/bin' which is not on PATH.
Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
iβm on a mac
this is from terminal
vocal basin
WARNING: The scripts pip, pip3 and pip3.10 are installed in '/Library/Frameworks...
are you using venv?
lucid blade
iβm on a mac
this may be the issue
mint loom
are you using venv?
i have no idea what that isβ¦
lucid blade
i google your error message and most replies were mac related
mint loom
i google your error message and most replies were mac related
bruhhhh
steady token
if you're doing something computation-heavy (for which you'd need the fast langu...
acctualy i know nothing yet
mint loom
i google your error message and most replies were mac related
is there no solution
lucid blade
do you have another machine you could try it on ?
mint loom
do you have another machine you could try it on ?
no π
lucid blade
no clear solution
whole bear
Lol http proxy
mint loom
the code runs fine on windows apprently
steady token
so speed is not a real problem when building a website, right?
mint loom
man
whole bear
Yep
mint loom
can u emulate windows using virtual box
hm
that is plausible
might have to youtube that
lucid blade
its very easy
whole bear
Just download then run it on hypervisor 1
lucid blade
just get a windows iso from ms and install vbox ... then theres a wizard to set everything up
vocal basin
so speed is not a real problem when building a website, right?
depends on what you're making the website for
unless there's a lot of API load, most of the time the only thing you do is just return static files to the client
mint loom
just get a windows iso from ms and install vbox ... then theres a wizard to set...
ooh alright iβll try that
ty guys
whole bear
Anyways gotta go again work
steady token
if you're doing something computation-heavy (for which you'd need the fast langu...
probably for now i dont have to worry about that
vocal basin
VMware is better
"Solaris Zones are better" if only there was any other way to have display except for remote desktop or something
steady token
but in the future when i work to a bigger company it may be important
sterile agate
dont we have a music bot ? π
vocal basin
"Solaris Zones are better" if only there was any other way to have display excep...
there are ways, if there's more than one machine
vocal basin
dont we have a music bot ? π
do you have the license to play music?
vocal basin
are you authorised by the music author to play their music?
sterile agate
no
copyright free ?
we can use it without auth correct
I see
oh
let me see
first time hearing
agreed
vocal basin
copyright free ?
music bot would have to check that what's submitted is copyright free
sterile agate
I see
sharp urchin
music bot would have to check that what's submitted is copyright free
have seen and used many bots
never seen a problem though
vocal basin
music bot would have to check that what's submitted is copyright free
or have its own authorised integrated library of music
sharp urchin
how do they work?
vocal basin
how do they work?
!rule 5 that's how
wise cargoBOT
sterile agate
or have its own authorised integrated library of music
well is there one in this server
sharp urchin
!rule 5 that's how
nvmm but they arent "illegal" as far as ik
either ways....
anyways will get going now..bye:]
vocal basin
dont we have a music bot ? π
full list of bots here, seems like
viscid lagoonBOT
Command Help
lucid blade
sterile agate
alright
icy sinew
ancient lily
@rugged root is your workplace fixed ??
somber heath
<@98195144192331776> is your workplace fixed ??
I think they might be putting it out to stud at some point.
ancient lily
that sounds great
vocal basin
now that I think of it, I don't actually know the etymology of "platypus"
dusky obsidian
hello
whole bear
hi
vocal basin
now that I think of it, I don't actually know the etymology of "platypus"
sometimes referred to as the duck-billed platypus
dusky obsidian
us time is morning?
vocal basin
now that I think of it, I don't actually know the etymology of "platypus"
"platypus" literally means 'flat-foot'
duck-billed flat-foot
vocal basin
> sometimes referred to as the duck-billed platypus
meanwhile Russian word for platypus just means duck-nosed (noun)
vocal basin
> sometimes referred to as the duck-billed platypus
is that called convergence or something?
(there's some term for it)
vocal basin
is that called convergence or something?
(there's some term for it)
"convergent evolution"
rugged root
I think mutelock has been the common one
Not divergent?
I mean it's a complete split from Mammalia
sweet lodge
I think mutelock has been the common one
Voicelesslock
rugged root
Hemute
vocal basin
"convergent evolution"
a platypus and a duck are quite far from each other evolutionally
vocal basin
a platypus and a duck are quite far from each other evolutionally
ducks are from dinosaurs which are from reptiles
mammals aren't from reptiles
sweet lodge
Is it though??
rugged root
ducks are from dinosaurs which are from reptiles
mammals aren't from reptiles
Sure sure, I know where you're coming from on that
Yeah Mutelock seems to be the better option, Opal
vocal basin
ducks are from dinosaurs which are from reptiles
mammals aren't from reptiles
there's a split before reptiles and another group (which went extinct)
rugged root
Ah okay
So it is potentially closer to the ducks
Quack machines, as I call them
Amazing
vocal basin
there's a split before reptiles and another group (which went extinct)
Synapsids
rugged root
Nothing like some tea concentrate to fuck up start end your day
vocal basin
Synapsids
previously called "mammal-like reptiles"
echidna is even shown as an example
of the clade, not the extinct group
vocal basin
of the clade, not the extinct group
but that's, like, the same with dinosaurs not being formally extinct
rugged root
I'm going to be calling ducks "the artist formerly known as dinosaur"
vocal basin
both synapsids and dinosaurs that failed to develop good enough thermal regulation went extinct
vocal basin
Tigers fall into that?
all mammals
vocal basin
mammals are the only group left alive there
vocal basin
The hell is second from the top left
existed just before the dinosaurs
rugged root
@somber heath Apparently this is a thing now #ot1-perplexing-regexing message
I have
NO idea
vocal basin
existed just before the dinosaurs
*trying to recall data from what I've watched long time ago, so a guess*
5~6 metres long
rugged root
Fisher just randomly dropped it
vocal basin
\*trying to recall data from what I've watched long time ago, so a guess\*
5~6 m...
after looking up: 3~3.5m
rugged root
@timber warren Yo
somber heath
@timber warrenπ
vocal basin
The hell is second from the top left
large carnivorous therapsids who lived during the Late Permian in what is now European Russia
somber heath
@tawdry trenchπ
vocal basin
Therapsida, the clade, contains mammals too
rugged root
HA
Oh, and my brain interpreted what you said as "large carnivorous thespians"
"Verily, not for long"
OM NOM NOM NOM
I just want to be back home sleeping
So comfortable
Damn it, right. Forgot I have to write the sublime-build file this morning
Not that it's a problem
Just bleh
It feels like such a kludge to have to do:
"use strict";
``` At the top of a JS file in order to enable itFeels weird to me
But I guess you have to indicate it some way
Hey Rab
@amber raptor How goes it
Is it cold there?
My god
He's dead
Huh
Didn't realize I could enable that in Sublime
rugged root
Did you just write that?
That's fucking amazing
That's absolute gold
Much like our golden cooked chicken, only available a-
@whole bear Yo
somber heath
@whole bearπ
rugged root
I may or may not be waiting for you to say hello before I start typing
You can't prove anything
Dimensions are a bit off but looks cool
At least I think they're off
Never been good at that
vocal basin
rounding error?
rugged root
The right side is too even
Would think you'd see more of the back right side
Yeah there we go
I think the forced perspective on the back left corner is what's throwing me
But yeah, that's really cool
I really should put some effort into messing with PyGame at some point
@whole bear Yo
I didn't wait this time at least
I love the one we have on the server
The lemoji are so good
The duckies are better to me
Verboof did a splendid job
That one too
"It's so funny! It quacks me up"
Yeah that was weak, sorry
That was fowl
Man opal... Waddle we do with you
somber heath
@green cairnπ
vocal basin
I really should put some effort into messing with PyGame at some point
pile of creatures
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Check out the #voic - god damn it
green cairn
!voice
rugged root
#voice-verification channel.
rugged root
That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
green cairn
tnx
rugged root
Happy to help
In fairness
So can I
Also, don't ask for complicated code. Odds are good that it's borked
"Even a stopped clock is right twice a day"
"Unless it's digital"
green cairn
Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:
β’ You have been on the server for less than 3 days.
β’ You have sent less than 50 messages.
β’ You have been active for fewer than 3 ten-minute blocks.
he tell me that in dms
rugged root
Yep yep
It seems extreme, but if you plan on being in the server for a while, it's a drop in the bucket
@whole bear Sup
Good man
Hope you cleaned up after
There's a special hell for me
It's a necessary step. But...
vocal basin
pile of creatures
"I risked getting a heart attack opening that folder, so might as well take other pictures before I open it ever again"
this seems to be some sort of an incorrect Mandelbrot set
rugged root
No worries! We accept everyone
And quite a few folks are kind of using the chat to help improve their English
Yep
It's going to be harder and harder to trust things
There was a quote from the SNES version for Chrono Trigger...
"Am I a butterfly dreaming I'm a man, or am I a bowling ball dreaming I'm a plate of sashimi? Never believe what you see and feel are real."
It'll be like evolution. One rat becomes more resistant to a snake's venom, the snake gets stronger venom, rat becomes more immune, rinse and repeat.
Over generations of course
It was a publicity thing
Brand recognition
green cairn
somebody speak arabic? hhhh
rugged root
There are quite a few folks in the server, but we're an English only server, unfortunately. It's for moderation purposes. Can't quite moderate what we don't speak. (Should be noted that we have mods+ from all over the globe that speak a lot of languages.)
I see it more as being a realist
There are real consequences (or even potential ones) of this kind of tech
And most of the time, the people developing either don't see the potential risks or see them as acceptable
Well
They said the same thing about photography, Opal
And in this case, the AI still needs to use existing work as a base
It can't truly innovate beyond those styles
@sly quiver Sup
Will nothing, they've been doing it for years. Just not with as much ease as now
And now we're in the era of deep fakes and what not
Also that
@rugged tundra Sup
rugged tundra
<@170709455091138561> Sup
rugged root
Which is scary
Because when we get phishing emails from legit clients that get compromised, one of the recommended ways to verify is to call them
So if we can't trust even that...
vocal basin
I found the thing I mentioned a month ago
#voice-chat-text-0 message
rugged root
I found the thing I mentioned a month ago
https://discord.com/channels/267624335...
I hope the cheese managed a full recovery
Who dat?
Oh right yeah
So, it struggles a bit
But with using existing images as a base... Crap what it's called... something painting I think
Where you're only changing part of it
That one
With in-painting and a lot of persistence, you can get the result you want
And if someone is wanting to make some sort of fake for malicious purposes, they'll do it
They'll take the time
Hell, people spend crap tons of time for things that DON'T matter
I spent far too much time trying to fine tune "ham but it's a strawberry"
No idea why I got on that specific prompt kick
So gooooood
"God damn it, not THAT kind of a camp trip."
Thought you'd appreciate that
https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/scope_naming.html#source That is.... the least helpful section
The one for source.
Kind of want more to go on
somber heath
@visual galleonπ
rugged root
Right, keep forgetting you're on the west not east
We have so many folks on east I get confused
rugged root
Welcome back
rugged root
No idea why, but at some point in... I think my early to mid 20's I flipped into a morning person
mild quartz
i am preparing for a meeting with cbo about claims we can make about data off our product
rugged root
I'm an old man that likes to go to bed around 2200
mild quartz
he knows just enough to be very dangerous
i need to explain why statistics is not a magic wand we can wave to create order from chaos
rugged root
B for business?
mild quartz
yeah
mild quartz
one of our experiments with a collaborator βfailedβ
rugged root
I mean
mild quartz
which he interprets to mean we failed or the instrument failed
rugged root
If it's an experiment, there's no guarantee it'll succeed right?
mild quartz
not that hypothesis was smoothbrained and samples bad quality
somber heath
@cosmic elkπ
mild quartz
hes like βdo what the collaborator wants, make them happy and excitedβ
im like
no collaborator doesnt know shit
punch them straight out of fantasyland
rugged root
Rabbit? Is that you?
mild quartz
that obviously hurts his mba sensibilities
cosmic elk
hey folks can you teach me basics
rugged root
@somber heath Ah, that makes sense
cosmic elk
what i have to downoload
rugged root
@cosmic elk We can help you with certain concepts if you get stuck and point you to resources, but we don't really have a one on one tutoring. Regarding what to download, go to https://python.org
rugged root
that obviously hurts his mba sensibilities
I'm like... 80% sure you're Rabbit wearing an Anokhi mask
cosmic elk
how to star
rugged root
!resources
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Check out A Byte of Python
cosmic elk
i mean start
rugged root
It's free on its respective - see you Lyapz
cosmic elk
i know how to do print
cosmic elk
print("hello im captain") is that right?
rugged root
Yep!
cosmic elk
where i can even put python code
rugged root
How do you mean?
cosmic elk
where is console that can use python
rugged root
What OS are you on?
cosmic elk
windows 10
rugged root
After you install Python from their website (https://python.org), you'll go to the start menu and type in cmd
In there, you'll do py
That'll bring up the Python REPL
That lets you toy around with things in real time
rugged root
rugged root
where is python used in
Lots of things. It's used to wrap more complicated code to make it easier to work with, some places use it to run the back end of their website, it's used a lot in machine learning and data science...
You'll see it all over the place
vocal basin
https://tenor.com/bPLfl.gif
thankfully, discord doesn't animate gifs when it isn't focused
rugged root
Possibly the print software, can't do the operating system, though
cosmic elk
why
rugged root
So Python relies on its interpreter, something that your operating system runs and works with to execute your code
I am
somber heath
Bodybuilder but they're a strawberry. https://www.craiyon.com/
cosmic elk
so i can program virus with it
rugged root
God
cosmic elk
with intend of research absolutely
rugged root
I have so many questions
vocal basin
so i can program virus with it
!rule 5 anyway
wise cargoBOT
rugged root
Yeah that's not really stuff we allow
cosmic elk
!rule 5 anyway
told intend of research
rugged root
We can't prove intent, so we just have a blanket no on it
Man that dude needs to see a doctor
ancient lily
Bodybuilder but they're a strawberry. https://www.craiyon.com/
do they taste sweet
rugged root
Well you can either open IDLE, which is an editor that Python comes with
Or mess around in the REPL like I mentioned a bit ago
rugged root
do they taste sweet
Asking the important, hard hitting questions
Some of them support CircuitPython I believe
I don't think all do
cosmic elk
what commands i can use
rugged root
what commands i can use
I recommend reading the site I linked you earlier. A Byte of Python will really help you get a grasp of, or at least a start at grasping, Python and how to use it
You'll get a lot more out of it than us trying to cover it all
rugged root
You can open up the cmd prompt, type in py and then drag and drop a .py file into it. Probably the easiest way. Or, if you're using IDLE or something like Mu-Editor, they both have ways to run it right then and there. https://codewith.mu/
Mu is great
cosmic elk
i use idle
cosmic elk
so i need to downoloa something
rugged root
Nope, if you have IDLE and you're good with working with that, you're good to start learning and coding
Later on you'll likely want a more robust editor, but for now, this'll work just fine
cosmic elk
so what thing i should do first
cosmic elk
what language i can make operating system in
rugged root
We have a couple channels linked on our resources page
C would be the common one operating systems are made in
cosmic elk
ok
rugged root
@molten pewter Yes my deer?
Proud of you
... Why would you rage at the W-2
That's the easiest part
Look at box it asks you about
Put value in box
Dear god I need to curate my bookmarks
I have FAR too many
Why do you need folders?
Hire
An
Accountant
He's a wiggle worm
Nah it's not obtrusive
The clicking is a bit loud
Yeah
Turn it off and on again
Only when you speak
Yep, that fixes it
Only when speakin'
Sometimes it just needs a swift kick in the jimmys
He was
He said words just then
"I am talking now"
And now he's talking about a movie
That sounds surreal
Weird the clicking is back. But seriously, don't worry about it
It's hit and miss whether it's coming through or not
Fair, sorry
somber heath
No, no, it's good.
somber heath
I want people to tell me if there's issues with my audio so I know to address it.
Because I don't want to be obnoxious.
rugged root
It's a W-2
Just type it
It's like
13 boxes
Dude this happens every year
Just hire an accountant
It'll be far less stress
You're right
You should have an accountant do it
@mild quartz Can you improve OCR to help Fury
Specifically during tax season
Well here's your options
You do it by hand using their system, get frustrated, put it off until the final hour, and are miserable the whole way through
OR
You hire someone to do it for you, you may have some irritation collating the documents but that's short term compare to option 1
OR
You move back to Taiwan
OR
You become an elected official and burn it all to the ground
Then it looks like it's option 2 or 4
4's looking pretty good
I didn't say fix it
Right
That's why I said burn it
Look
I'm not here to give good advice
Only humorous advice
Koalafications
@supple sentinel Sup
@rugged tundra Welcome back
He'll teach you how to Dougie
supple sentinel
Hey all, I'm new here. Just trying out a bit
rugged root
Glad to have you
Always happy to see new faces/texts/voices
Or other varieties of communication
supple sentinel
Great to be here, thank you
rugged tundra
He'll teach you how to Dougie
rugged root
So do you mean you're just new to VC?
Not sure you should start it "Dear Dougie"
"Yours always"
"XOXO"
somber heath
Do you suppose there's a park out in front of LinkedIn HQ?
rugged root
Soooooooooooooooo strong
And tax law
And policies
E-files can still have mistakes
It's why amended returns are a thing
It's reaching light speed
@supple sentinel Oh if you're wondering why you can't talk, check out the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know
@molten pewter You realize they're INCREDIBLY understaffed and under funded, right?
Like
Incredibly incredibly so
You... do realize I work with people who do indeed do it correctly, right?
Wake me when this is done
supple sentinel
<@799990584382980116> Oh if you're wondering why you can't talk, check out the <...
Thanks for the info. I guess you're talking about taxes now. I'm not even american. I have no idea about the IRS.
rugged root
I'm just exhausted hearing about it
Like
Yes it sucks, yes it's a pain
I work for an accounting firm, I get how much it sucks balls
I see how stressed out my co-workers are (I'm Administrative Support, so thankfully I'm not touching any of that)
There have been years where people have had to close their office doors to have a cry
Like
Yeah
I get it
amber raptor
@rugged tundra because Turbo Tax lobbying.
vocal basin
<@170709455091138561> because Turbo Tax lobbying.
was about to say that
vocal basin
was about to say that
there are some lawsuits already
vocal basin
with enough money, you can make it go away
e.g. bribery
rugged root
You still have work to do on those
ancient lily
i gtg have a good day everyone
rugged root
They know your income but not necessarily your other assets
vocal basin
>with enough money, you can make it go away
e.g. bribery
(not a financial advise)
rugged root
Not the worst suggestion
No
Springfield could not figure out shit
You could also become a lobby
vocal basin
>with enough money, you can make it go away
e.g. bribery
fines, given their little size, are kind of a delayed bribe
rugged root
Welcome to America
We're for the corporations not the people
Just like most political systems, it works until you add people
vocal basin
"Big Four" in any corporate context sounds like a cartel
rugged root
Billions
TurboTax is Intuit
They make fuck tons
Intuit has a lot of products
Wait what the fuck
MailChimp?
When did they buy mailchimp
pallid hazel
shot myself in the foot at work.. apparently I am too knowledgable and its being suggested I might be moved to another department that is horribly understaffed and behind on whatever it is they do.. meaning I could potentially be heading to a new nightmare.
vocal basin
"GTP" sound like the French version of "GPT" or something
rugged root
ChatGPT is also older data
pallid hazel
80k new irs workers, or the irs should buy tubrotax...
rugged root
There are tons of stuff TurboTax doesn't or can't handle properly
They can use stuff like TabNine because you can local host it
pallid hazel
i get ya.. like holding a flash light.
rugged root
Eh?
pallid hazel
ohh i stopped there as to not go there.. but alas... holding a flashlight during thier audit.. stopping again before it goes raunchy
rugged root
shot myself in the foot at work.. apparently I am too knowledgable and its being...
I'd demand a pay raise at least
"If you're putting me here as a way to try and salvage the department, I need to be properly compensated to do so."
pallid hazel
agreed..
rugged root
"Dear Douche Canoe"
I love that man
I really hope Rab gets a job where he's not having to suffer day in and day out
pallid hazel
joining to hear more about this canoe
rugged root
HA
Unfortunately you missed the incredible anger Rab has for his co-workers
@molten pewter Woah let's not go crazy
That's like
Woah
Sure you can
Wallet weight
Does TypeScript's tsc compiler thing have a watcher mode.. hm
Ah HA
Found it
Yep
I would be miserable
I couldn't do that
It's like mental health meds
"Oh I'm fine now"
Welcome back, bottle
amber raptor
I really hope Rab gets a job where he's not having to suffer day in and day out
Thatβs no job
supple sentinel
Hello back again
rugged root
I guess no job at your pay level
rugged root
Oh Fury was raging about how TurboTax's OCR is garbage and he had to manually do his W-2 entry
rugged root
Not if you toss it to the lowest bidder contractor
@molten pewter You're getting fussy, take a nap
HA
mild quartz
facts
rugged root
@tired atlas Yo
rugged root
Check out the #voice-verification channel. That'll tell you what you need to know about the voice gate
@molten pewter So they're more donots to you?
Fuck you that was clever
@tepid edge Sup
tired atlas
They telling me you need to send 50 msgs and needa be 3 days old
rugged root
Yep
tired atlas
In this server
rugged root
It's for a good reason, trust me
We had hit and run trolls that would join the server, join voice chat, scream, and then leave
It was happening like 8 or more times a day
somber heath
On a good day.
tired atlas
I see
rugged root
HA
supple sentinel
Haha
tired atlas
I need to be 3 days old here
rugged root
Yeah. But if you're planning on being on the server for a while, that's a drop in the bucket
@molten pewter What'd the fish say when he ran into the wall?
Dam
From me
I love the dark ones
tired atlas
Yeah. But if you're planning on being on the server for a while, that's a drop ...
Yeaa I'll wait for 3 days
rugged root
That said, a lot of folks who are voice verified still prefer to just type
We still interact with this chat
tired atlas
That said, a lot of folks who are voice verified still prefer to just type
Sir I'm a talker haha I love to talk
rugged root
Same
Very very same
Which has killed me because I've been in an area of the office where I can't talk
But soon...
SOON I shall be back in my area of the office
supple sentinel
I just found out I have to send 50 Messages to be able to talk...
rugged root
You'll get it fairly naturally talking in here
supple sentinel
That will take a long time since, I'm not a talker
tired atlas
it feels boring while texting but when you're talk it's just different
rugged root
For sure
supple sentinel
let's try.
rugged root
Side note
Spamming to hit the message count usually means I tack on 2 weeks for the amount of time it takes to get verified. That's from when the infraction is made
limpid umbra
@rugged root you could train a text to Hem speech app
tired atlas
Side note
I joined this server bc I'm working building something like chatgpt maybe i could get some help here in Coding
limpid umbra
@rugged root could have a auto mode - when on break - hmmmm
rugged root
Using ML models, donuts?
tepid edge
δΈθ―
supple sentinel
Currently it's all about ChatGPT
tired atlas
Using ML models, donuts?
Ys sir
rugged root
#data-science-and-ml might be a good place for ya
@tepid edge I forgot, are you US based?
If you're comfortable answering
tired atlas
Currently it's all about ChatGPT
I've hEard even google came out with it's AI search platform, can't remember the name
limpid umbra
@rugged root robot dog is enoufg - anything else is ... potential shit waiting to happen
rugged root
Microsoft did
tired atlas
<#366673247892275221> might be a good place for ya
Kk I'll check it out
supple sentinel
I've hEard even google came out with it's AI search platform, can't remember the...
I think it's called Bard
tired atlas
Microsoft did
Google too
supple sentinel
But even the creator or ChatGPT said it's a terrible product because it's being used differently than intended
supple sentinel
Which means it will get much better in future π
limpid umbra
according to Dan
rugged root
Me?
tired atlas
Which means it will get much better in future π
Google is afraid lol , of ChatGPT
supple sentinel
Google is afraid lol , of ChatGPT
Totally!
rugged root
Furry, yo
limpid umbra
chat gpt , orders the CEO of googles office to be turned into a doggy play room
supple sentinel
xD
rugged root
From what @mild quartz has said, Google has been severely slacking in the AI department
supple sentinel
But Microsoft has already so much power... It would be crazy if they continue to repalce Google
rugged root
If I'm remembering correctly
vocal basin
did "step up my minesweeper game" happen in any way, Hemlock?
#voice-chat-text-0 message
supple sentinel
I'm using ChatGPT to code at times.
rugged root
Your accent is so subtle
tired atlas
I'm using ChatGPT to code at times.
Same Goddd it's so cool I'm in love with ChatGPT π
limpid umbra
@supple sentinel can GPT relace you as a coder yet
supple sentinel
It should only be used to generate new code.
Prefferably code that you know how it should look like...
tired atlas
When I stuck it helps me with coding
rugged root
Ah cool cool
supple sentinel
I used it if I fogot some syntax
limpid umbra
i should test it one day
supple sentinel
It should only be used to generate new code.
Prefferably code that you know how ...
*Inside a compay
In your freetime no one cares
tired atlas
It should only be used to generate new code.
Prefferably code that you know how ...
Yesterday I told it like I want you to write a code for creating Discord music bot using python....and guess what .....it did!
supple sentinel
Yesterday I told it like I want you to write a code for creating Discord music b...
That's cool!
rugged root
It can write simpler stuff
limpid umbra
does GPT say it owns the code generated
rugged root
And music bots are fairly common out there
tired atlas
And music bots are fairly common out there
Yea
vocal basin
did "step up my minesweeper game" happen in any way, Hemlock?
https://discord.co...
asking because a minesweeper accident just happened
supple sentinel
does GPT say it owns the code generated
I think that's still an open problem
rugged root
Should be noted that ChatGPT's data is technically older
pallid hazel
supple sentinel
But researchers started mentioning ChatGPT as co-author
rugged root
Nothing after 2021 I think
limpid umbra
well there is Dan , other virtual GPT characters need to be created and spread
supple sentinel
Nothing after 2021 I think
Exactly, but Bing will be up-to-date
limpid umbra
GPT trained to sell cars via net - ultimate used car salesman - then builds its own secret hardware to live in
tired atlas
GPT trained to sell cars via net - ultimate used car salesman - then builds its ...
Wait what
limpid umbra
ohhh Person Of Interest , storyline
rugged root
Actually that is a question
@mild quartz how easy is it to update those kinds of models with newer information
limpid umbra
OR 2 battlebots , with GPT , compete for a fully charged battery in middle of ring
vocal basin
they measure how likely the token is
vocal basin
they measure how likely the token is
but the generative thing is less simple, I guess
rugged root
Hm
I wonder if that translates to languages that were meant to be more natural language or at least understandable like COBOL
supple sentinel
I'm back
somber heath
The model knows where the glasses are by knowing where the glasses are not.
rugged root
It's like - Hey bottle - how UPC codes work. It isn't looking for the black bars, it's looking for the white
supple sentinel
Could this space be called an embedding like in NLP? In the end it represents a meaning just like with text.
vocal basin
for images there are some things like stable diffusion which don't actually do the text-to-image mapping
rugged root
Yeah
molten pewter
rugged root
for images there are some things like stable diffusion which don't actually do t...
Wait then what does it do
mild quartz
<@336524160509411328> how easy is it to update those kinds of models with newer ...
hard
this is a major problem
vocal basin
Wait then what does it do
(text, image)->(image)
mild quartz
for example if i train a machine translation system on 100 languages
adding the 101st language deteriorates the others
unless you restart lol
limpid umbra
wheres Zaioichi when you need him
mild quartz
this is called "negative transfer"
molten pewter
rugged root
Sure but in those cases you're potentially having to teach it an entirely different language syntax structure. I'm more thinking like... Just English but additional articles to update it on current affairs/products/advancements/etc.
rugged root
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUarASqrVnY
But does it make Julian Fries?
vocal basin
(text, image)->(image)
more specifically:
one model doing (image with noise) -> (original image)
another model doing (image with noise, text describing the image) -> (original image)
rugged root
Please change your name to something that isn't noisy zalgo characters, thank you
#rules has a section about user names
mild quartz
There is clearly something wrong with the paradigm of train time being separated from inference time
there are methods that allow on-the-fly updates
rugged root
I think it might be
mild quartz
like bayesian inferences methods allow this
rugged root
Because the fully line I remember is like "It slices, it dices, it makes julian fries."
vocal basin
more specifically:
one model doing (image with noise) -> (original image)
anothe...
and leveraging the difference allows for better "image generation"
mild quartz
and also people dont have this separation of train time inference time
we update on the fly
its a very complicated question
we basically dont have a way of on the fly updating LM parameters
it is possible to do this via tricks like learning prompts etc etc
rugged root
In the case of what we currently have, the whole package/model has to be updated, right?
mild quartz
but it is a bit jank
limpid umbra
is there a samurai sword and a watermelon involved
rugged root
It's not like we can throw an additional file that it can reference to
@molten pewter Found it. It was for the Veg-O-Matic
vocal basin
brains are asynchronous
typical NNs aren't
limpid umbra
Q - do you understand how you decode what someone says to you ?
vocal basin
brains are asynchronous
typical NNs aren't
weights and biases, however, are almost identical to the digital analogue
(how they activate not how they train/learn)
rugged root
Hey LX
molten pewter
green cairn
longli n9iya
rugged root
For sure
And they've been relatively consistently moving that direction
It was more of an inconvenience for me
No
Not everything works
It works after fucking around with it to get the damn wireless card working
ALWAYS the wireless card
That's...
Not a Linux specific thing
That's open source
.... what?
You... can still do that if you have the old installers for your program
I don't know what you're going on about
Sure but if he's saying 10 years ago, it's not uncommon for those to still have static installers
It feels more an argument for open source than - I did previously, I just don't have a reason to strip my new laptop of windows - linux
No I'm just fucking exhausted by the conversation
IT
I'm in house for an accounting firm
But that's part of my job
Nothing so fancy at all
My title is Administrative Support
I'm also our runner (delivering tax and payroll), - routers, switches, redid some of the ethernet wall ports
They know what they're doing
somber heath
Wallp orts.
rugged root
Not system admin
As in firm administrator
IT was never part of my initial job title or reason why I was hired
It just happens that I know my shit and I'm doing more and more of it
Which I'm cool with
Not 5 times
Maybe double
I'm at $20/hr
It is what it is
I don't have the confidence
sharp urchin
I'm at $20/hr
8hrs a day? work?
sharp urchin
also sorry for randomly interrupting
rugged root
Fair question
I mean the one thing I'd 100% specifically need off the bat is health insurance
Between my mental health stuff and my wife's health
somber heath
I don't understand why it's always employer-provided instead of outside.
I mean...I do.
rugged root
What sector?
sharp urchin
8 hrs a day 5 days a week
is that a mid range paycheck? or sum like that yeh?
sharp urchin
am not sure how things are in US
trail mural
π
rugged root
Hey slay
somber heath
"I work at an insulting firm."
"Don't you mean consulting?"
"No, we go around insulting folk."
limpid umbra
its the , moan and groan room
trail mural
still big demand in the UK
rugged root
That's my fear
Like I'm content where I am
I love my job, I love the variety
Just the pay
I like small business
I like wearing many hats
limpid umbra
@rugged root if your gone , does the business stop - denotes your job security
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> if your gone , does the business stop - denotes your job s...
Wouldn't stop entirely, but any IT issues would be delayed and take longer to fix. We do have an MSP that handles the majority of the big stuff: network management, server, vm, backups, etc
I'm more just front line
CIS wasn't even my original major
gentle flint
"I work at an insulting firm."
"Don't you mean consulting?"
"No, we go around in...
that's like the fire distinguisher
trail mural
does it tell what type of fire it is
rugged root
"Yep, that's burning."
limpid umbra
@rugged root most employers hate doing new hires they shuffle it off to others to do - it all becomes a sloppy mess
rugged root
Distinguisher
somber heath
Point it at songs.
vocal basin
"yes, plugging that cable back in might help the issue, but you need to write a 20 report on all the potential concerns and consequences and on how might affect the business in the long term"
somber heath
"Yep, this song is fire."
limpid umbra
dont you love it when a company assigns the secretary ( no tech experience ) to do the new hires , and nerdy Elon shows up
rugged root
Not the case here
I know I know..
Correct
I suppose
It's the worst
That looming dread
My brain stopped working for a bit
limpid umbra
coffee is the answer
rugged root
My ADHD meds are already that
And that's far more powerful and more something I have to fight against
It does increase the metabolism, but if memory serves, stimulants also act as constrictors on blood vessels?
So I think it might be part of that
limpid umbra
pasta makes you sluggish , but its also calories - quite a paradox
rugged root
Need to double check that
limpid umbra
mmm more to do with insulin getting into your system
limpid umbra
excess salt goes down the drain at your favorite pub
limpid umbra
goes into the old boot in the corner , if you feel really tired
rugged root
Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor
It's not enough to cause the reaction
Or the other components outweigh it
@willow lynx Yo
Who leaves a boot in the bathroom
willow lynx
rugged root
No, no speaking at the moment
Only sound I'm hearing is my tinnitus
Back in a sec, grabbing a snack
molten pewter
somber heath
@crude finch π
crude finch
Hello
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
crude finch
You are a bot?
rugged root
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
That is one of my all time favorite videos
So good
somber heath
You are a bot?
Are you?
crude finch
No
old heart
Aren't we all?
molten pewter
crude finch
I am trying to learn code
rugged root
@molten pewter It's what we do
We can't not dive in and keep digging
It's in our blood
old heart
I prefer to enjoy my theobromine with my funny fungus.
crude finch
I am stuck in for loop& dicitionaries
rugged root
I prefer to enjoy my theobromine with my funny fungus.
What's his name? He sounds like a fun guy
crude finch
message = input('> ')
words = message.split(' ')
emoji_maping = {
':)':'π',
':(':'π'
}
output = ''
for char in words:
output += emoji_maping.get(char,'!')
print(output)
Stuck
Cant understand whats going wrong
vocal basin
message = input('> ')
words = message.split(' ')
emoji_maping = {
':)':'π',...
!d dict.items
wise cargoBOT
old heart
theo+psy
crude finch
??
old heart
due to its controlled nature in many countries and states I will not discuss furthur
vocal basin
or dict.values
crude finch
whats that?
old heart
the mushrooms.
vocal basin
!e
emoji_mapping = {
':)':'π',
':(':'π'
}
for value in emoji_mapping.values():
print(value)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | π
002 | π
xantheose
rugged root
Yeah he was the guy in Avengers right?
crude finch
?
old heart
rugged root
@ancient lily Welcome back
molten pewter
ancient lily
hello
crude finch
!e
```py
emoji_mapping = {
':)':'π',
':(':'π'
}
for value in emoji_map...
bro when somone type ':)' like in discord I want to change it into π
molten pewter
"Snorted cocoa has became a popular party drug in Europe, usually as a legal and subtle replacement for MDMA or cocaine"
old heart
microdose the shrooms with it
rugged root
Is there a microtres?
old heart
not to get screwed up, but for a relaxed and uplifting clarity
vocal basin
!e
emojis = {
':)':'π',
':(':'π'
}
message = 'test :) :('
for key, value in emojis.items():
message = message.replace(key, value)
print(message)
@vocal basin :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
test π π
cadmium and other heavy metals are a major concern in sourcing the cacao unfortunately.
vocal basin
!e
```py
emojis = {
':)':'π',
':(':'π'
}
message = 'test :) :('
for ke...
example of how to use dict.items()
vocal basin
what's the issue with Cadmium?
(is it analogous to Lead issue? like, replacing some other metal?)
Lead replaces Calcium or something
rugged root
Here's something, WHY is calcium commonly taught to just be good for strong bones
vocal basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_poisoning
catalytic hydrogen peroxide generator
rugged root
It's so important for so many processes in the body
Like holy shit
@molten pewter Well yeah, especially if it's in the form of a pipe applied to the temple
Lead pipe
HA
old heart
wow @vocal basin that is actually a super valid and concerning point.
vocal basin
I just posted the same fragment but smaller
gentle flint
I gotta lay low for a while, let some beef blow over
β¦ I say as a tornado approaches from the nearby cattle ranch
old heart
https://news.umich.edu/new-study-links-cadmium-to-more-severe-flu-pneumonia-infections/
This is why cadmium is bad.
rugged root
They used to use mercury as a laxative