which are pretty similar to imaginary numbers except imaginary numbers rely on a second component
#voice-chat-text-0
terse needle
hoary olive
how was your coffee today lx?
wanton spruce
I mean the US has been a proto-empirical power since the turn of the the 1900s'
hoary olive
In fairness, everything is a mess.
always was
rugged root
True
lavish rover
Hello folks
hoary olive
sup ustafa
terse needle
Hello folks
agghhh ffs it's mustafa, hate that guy
lavish rover
Same
wanton spruce
This is what I think is called a 'global sizing up'
let's measure each other up....
hoary olive
what
wanton spruce
we are all dead....
rugged root
You realize the UK isn't that big
You would suffer from the radiation like
REAL quick
hoary olive
radiation is weird
rugged root
Somehow Springfield is also one of the first exchange targets
wanton spruce
The northern half of the global nukes...the southern half collapses in the aftermath
hoary olive
its one of the most weird elemenets
stuck furnace
Gym? 
terse needle
humanity just needs to kill itself already
terse needle
Gym? <:pithink:652247559909277706>
oui, I am a gym lad now
golden sonnet
i don't think they care if all the people die
hoary olive
humanity just needs to kill itself already
thats such a utterly stupid thing to say
wanton spruce
This is an incredible point in human history....in which humanity's faith in itself is to the point of self-annihilation to rid itself
terse needle
thats such a utterly stupid thing to say
No it's true, the source of all of humanity's problems is humanity itself
stuck furnace
The UK's issue is just a long-term general lack of investment, both in the public and private sectors.
wanton spruce
The Earth will continue on after us
terse needle
The UK's issue is just a long-term general lack of investment, both in the publi...
The UK is fucked
hoary olive
this is way too complicated
stuck furnace
terse needle
The Earth will continue on after us
Exactly, Humans are just a blight on the larger system of life
hoary olive
you know even like revolutions, they are very complicated, but seem very smiple
golden sonnet
i mean uk messed up india
now they are giving it back to u 🙂
stuck furnace
Glad for you to take him off our hands 😄
hoary olive
UK messed up the world*
wanton spruce
Pierce Morgan is a boomer who still thinks he has relevancy
stuck furnace
He's pretty much universally hated in the UK.
golden sonnet
UK messed up the world*
yeah but india is the one in their office
hoary olive
yeah but india is the one in their office
true
golden sonnet
they're doing this for us all
stuck furnace
Clarkson is at least self-deprecating
zenith radish
hoary olive
Also the middle east
zenith radish
wanton spruce
They DO look the same
amber raptor
UK messed up the world*
UK gave us America, everyone quickly realized that was bad idea
stuck furnace
Morgan is just a genuinely unpleasant person.
haughty pollen
same person????
pallid hazel
omg omg.. it worked... yay.. but sadly.. i didnt save the data so ill have to rerun it.. bah.
rugged root
Okay now throw Stephen Fry in there
rugged root
True
wanton spruce
I was just saying
hoary olive
UK gave us America, everyone quickly realized that was bad idea
gave us america?
zenith radish
wanton spruce
I mean that's the look of wealthy arses in political and social power
wanton spruce
US is mostly immigrants from many locations
stuck furnace
oui, I am a gym lad now
Sorry, I'm not familiar with that word 
rugged root
Yeah
hoary olive
The first inhabitants were the Britons, who came from Armenia, and first peopled Britain southward" ("Armenia" is possibly a mistaken transcription of Armorica, an area in northwestern Gaul including modern Brittany).
terse needle
US is mostly immigrants from many locations
Apart from native americans they're all just immigrants
hoary olive
So then Armenians are the people "who gave us america"?
wanton spruce
Us is a big mixture of British, Spanish, and French with many others mixed in over centuries
rugged root
Who all had an axe to grind with the Brits
zenith radish
Apart from native americans they're all just immigrants
the mexicans are native too
zenith radish
california is literally mexican
golden sonnet
the mexicans are native too
i thought they have spain root
wanton spruce
I'm from Louisiana, studied the states history...it's like the central melting pot of all races and cultures......and it's also the shittiest state in the country
rugged root
God damn it now I want jambalaya
wanton spruce
And Yet we just had Trump as a president who tried to halt all immigration.....it's absurd
golden sonnet
interestingly not enough french in there
rugged root
We've strayed from where we started
wanton spruce
I live in Louisiana US, I'm Cajun French, Belgian, and Welsh
hoary olive
Cajun ?
rugged root
@zenith radish Wait wait wait wait
Can you repeat those words? I need to record it for posterity
Yeah
Yep
Let me get the camcorder
wanton spruce
Cajun - Acadian, previously Canadian dwellers in it's early history
rugged root
Yes
hoary olive
you play tetris? dont you get board?
wanton spruce
Discord is WAY better than Skype and any other chat system in the past I know of
hoary olive
ye good thing its not a two way relation
hoary olive
Discord is WAY better than Skype and any other chat system in the past I know of
skype is also decent cmmon
rugged root
It WAS decent
rugged root
It went to hell around 6 years ago
golden sonnet
there are better stuff for 1 to 1 chat
but for group chat discord is probably the best one
wanton spruce
I used Yahoo Messenger in it's hayday decades ago it seems lol
amber raptor
Take a hint Discord, I really don't want to talk to people privately
hoary olive
google meeting is very nice though in the space of voice chats
although discord performs better
amber raptor
google meeting is very nice though in the space of voice chats
It's garbage for business though
hoary olive
Take a hint Discord, I really don't want to talk to people privately
why dont you disable in your settings?
amber raptor
why dont you disable in your settings?
I shouldn't have to but I just did
wanton spruce
Discord has many great features all in one place, most other chat systems are very basic and not as versatile
rugged root
True
amber raptor
Discord has many great features all in one place, most other chat systems are ve...
except ability to make a profit
hoary olive
discord used to be way better in 2018
rugged root
Their settings are crap, though
sharp urchin
except ability to make a profit
where can you make profit?
wanton spruce
except ability to make a profit
well i mean there is the subscription model
amber raptor
discord used to be way better in 2018
because they were not profit chasing
sharp urchin
brave ? i reckon
wanton spruce
I dont know how profitable things like that are for Discord
amber raptor
where can you make profit?
You can't with chat. that's a huge problem
rugged root
It's really really difficult
wanton spruce
imagine if Discord turns the way of most big companies
hoary olive
because they were not profit chasing
yup especially because of that game subscription plan they god
but atleast they dont sell data
wanton spruce
soon we'll see ads in every message window
amber raptor
soon we'll see ads in every message window
that's not profitable
amber raptor
Ad Impression Market has fallen out
sharp urchin
agree
rugged root
Wouldn't know, I don't frequent those
golden sonnet
it's probably the only server with people
sharp urchin
there are no ppl in javascript server
wanton spruce
this is my first coding server I've joined so im bias 😛
sharp urchin
or openai
golden sonnet
it's probably the only server with people
well to be fair c server seems active but not as much
rugged root
Just also dive into other topics as well
wanton spruce
we have more civil discussions about politics and sciences and more fighting and name calling when talking about code LOL
rugged root
Yikes
hoary olive
that FAILED badly
rugged root
Yeah
hoary olive
no it was because - they werent good games
sharp urchin
steams trash
wanton spruce
steam is trash but it is serviceable trash
sharp urchin
@final crane keyboard name pls
final crane
What server should I join to talk about front end dev, like javascript and react and so on
wanton spruce
much like Taco Bell....it gives you runny butt but you love to eat it
hoary olive
live gold made 1B i think in the first year or smth
sharp urchin
🤤
rugged root
steams trash
Their extensive library is what keeps people around. The sales, the chat isn't terrible
hoary olive
GamePass is way better than anything out there
wanton spruce
Epic Games
hoary olive
Because you also get live gold
wanton spruce
Origin
sharp urchin
What server should I join to talk about front end dev, like javascript and react...
javascript
mastery
wanton spruce
and a bunch of other launchers
rugged root
Yep
hoary olive
Even like MSFS and Fifa 23 are very good games to get for such a cheap price
rugged root
They make up for it in licensing and sales cuts
amber raptor
live gold made 1B i think in the first year or smth
live gold had massive profit margins, it was chat/multiplayer which is cheap to deliver
sharp urchin
leave all tht
final crane
javascript
thank you
wanton spruce
everyone has to have their own launcher....because envy of Steam
rugged root
Did it?
sharp urchin
:{
wanton spruce
I don't do console games
final crane
ppl dont stayactive in vc though
oof ) :
wanton spruce
Whne I can just use my computer for things
hoary olive
Activision is not gonna be like "OH HEY! Stadia here is our game"
rugged root
A console can also just work on a monitor
sharp urchin
can someone tell a good mech keyboard which makes a lot of clicky sounds
loud ones
!
golden sonnet
can someone tell a good mech keyboard which makes a lot of clicky sounds
mechanical keyboard
hoary olive
can someone tell a good mech keyboard which makes a lot of clicky sounds
depends on the switch, blue switches are loud
wanton spruce
the other stupid idea was the Intellivision guys trying to push forth their own console.......Intellivision...from the 80s... LOL
sharp urchin
fornite!!
rugged root
Yeah but then you have to carry the controller around
If you want to play on the go
That's silly
hoary olive
thats different
sharp urchin
depends on the switch, blue switches are loud
blue switches as in general would do it?
hoary olive
you can even use bluetooth
sharp urchin
fortnite on mobile with controller
rugged root
God the touchscreen controls....
wanton spruce
You should be ashamed playing an Xbox.....hide that fact from the world...you are cringe 😛
hoary olive
blue switches as in general would do it?
yes, if you get a hotswap keyboard (can switch their switches) you can put like any switch. blue being the lowdest, banana yellows and blacks being a bit more quieter
sharp urchin
nintendo is ASS
hoary olive
You should be ashamed playing an Xbox.....hide that fact from the world...you ar...
Xbox is awesome
golden sonnet
stronghold 2 🙂
wanton spruce
Nintendo as a company currently is crazy dictatorial
sharp urchin
yes, if you get a hotswap keyboard (can switch their switches) you can put like ...
aight cool thanks:}
PS better
hoary olive
PS5 is better than XBOX tbf
sharp urchin
eww switch
hoary olive
but Xbox One X/S are way better than PS4
sharp urchin
PS5 is better than XBOX tbf
always has been
wanton spruce
A PC is simple
hoary olive
not even close
sharp urchin
i use ps4 with monitor!!!
wanton spruce
and there are NO games on a gaming console that I just HAVE to play
hoary olive
Xbox ones are VERY powerful
sharp urchin
who uses a TV!??
sharp urchin
Xbox ones are VERY powerful
first 4k?
amber raptor
Nintendo as a company currently is crazy dictatorial
normie gamers don't care
rugged root
So I will say
hoary olive
Nintendo doesnt even have good games
rugged root
Our apartment's internet isn't terrible
hoary olive
sadly integrated
rugged root
So I could see that being a decent Stadia setup
wanton spruce
I live alone in a house with no usable TV, no sofa....I have all my entertainment on my PC
sharp urchin
@final crane where you from?! 😐
hoary olive
Stadia just sucks, cloud gaming is nice though
rugged root
The market is much much smaller
hoary olive
Stadia doesnt have any good games
dense ibex
what stadia was -rabbit
wanton spruce
PC gaming master race > gaming consoles
rugged root
Server runs the game
hoary olive
ofc
wanton spruce
keep the peace and respect
wanton spruce
or no one will want to listen to you
sharp urchin
ppl in sweden share TV's??
rugged root
Essentially remote desktop to play a game
sharp urchin
lmao m sorry to hear tht:{
hoary olive
1060 ti with a i7k can run wz smoothly. should be a bit more expensive than consoles though
amber raptor
Did Stadia not exist in Sweden??
rugged root
Guess not
rugged root
Did Stadia not exist in Sweden??
Either way, not everyone pays attention to these things.
hoary olive
Activition managed to limit cheaters somhow
limpid umbra
Q for ALL - when 55 inch , 4K monitors go on sale - what is minimum specs for a good monitor for gaming
sharp urchin
it didnt last time i played
hoary olive
hello robin
sharp urchin
:{
rugged root
Especially in an apartment
wanton spruce
I think it also all is lifestyles as a factor
rugged root
Wifi signals for days
sharp urchin
guys lietrally inside the grnd
wanton spruce
for some people, a gaming console is enough...for others, a PC is great
sharp urchin
and shooting me
wanton spruce
options are great to have
sharp urchin
🤤 .
hoary olive
for some people, a gaming console is enough...for others, a PC is great
PCs will always be better than consoles, but yet again not as simple
sharp urchin
30 in valo
rugged root
Playstation Now (which is now just part of Playstation Plus), is fairly alright
hoary olive
consoles provide simplicity, nothing else
sharp urchin
for some people, a gaming console is enough...for others, a PC is great
can you ever beat a pc?
wanton spruce
My father has a high res HD TV and I can't stand to watch anything on it, it's so jarring looking
sharp urchin
u can never
rugged root
How close together are the units?
Because your apartment is actually pretty good sized
Oh oh oh
Another point
A lot of people just have the ISP provided modem/router combo
Those are almost always subpar
Plus having family that has a bunch of devices connected
wanton spruce
I have basic internet, that's all i can afford for myself
I can't stream anything because of it
real viper
Hey can someone help me please with some advice how long a project will take(total newb)
rugged root
What's the project you have in mind?
rugged root
@zenith radish Do you have your own router? Or are you using the one provided by the ISP
real viper
What's the project you have in mind?
Im waiting for my headphones to charge then I will join chat
rugged root
I can't speak anyway
real viper
But basically creating a website scraper API that scrapes websites like Zillow of all the links to listings and then formats it into an XL that has a list of clients and their data that will have to match to the data on the links listed
unreal hazel
Aren't protocols (like ICMP) on a different layer than the transport layer
rugged root
Wonder if zillow has an api...
wanton spruce
people flexing their internet.....
unreal hazel
feels like 24
rugged root
Depends on how tired I am
real viper
Actually there is a site that has an api scraper but idk how legit it is
For this site
rugged root
Oh sure sure
unreal hazel
i measure in seconds per frame not frames per second 💪
sharp urchin
howd u guys like league of legends
rugged root
It's niche
sharp urchin
its graphics are so bad
hoary olive
na
sharp urchin
:{}
wanton spruce
there's multiple factors to the failure im sure
hoary olive
graphics doesnt matter just dont like the game
unreal hazel
There is no relation between graphics quality and how good a game is
I mean look at portal
hoary olive
FPS are my cup of tea
rugged root
For this site
For right now I won't be able to help much, as I have to wrap up some things at work
real viper
So any estimates how much it would cost to hire a developer for this project or how long it would take?
unreal hazel
TF2
rugged root
Most people in the US do use their ISP provided
sweet lodge
@unreal hazel go to school
unreal hazel
in this economy?
hoary olive
csgo >
real viper
For right now I won't be able to help much, as I have to wrap up some things at ...
Ok hope I cam catch you at another time
sharp urchin
or just sit arnd goin to grasses
lmao
league of legends not a game for 12+ for me:}
final crane
does anyone here know react?
hoary olive
XBOX compatibility is by far the best
wanton spruce
There's a lot of console ports to Steam and they are like 90% garbage
hoary olive
no other console does compatibility like xbox
uncut meteor
rugged root
Well played
unreal hazel
we got a bigger congregation here than staff meetings lmao
wanton spruce
the purpose of console ports is to remove the console exclusivity
sharp urchin
yes
sweet lodge
It is in certain places
sharp urchin
😀 .
sweet lodge
It is in certain places
Unity IIRC
wanton spruce
i hat ethe whole 'console exclusive' game thing. I just dont care about a game that much to buy a console anymore
hoary olive
i hat ethe whole 'console exclusive' game thing. I just dont care about a game ...
developers need to eat at nights
rugged root
i hat ethe whole 'console exclusive' game thing. I just dont care about a game ...
I'm happy to see games become more broadly available later down the line
Never used to see that
sharp urchin
win>mac
wanton spruce
I remember when a game was a console seller. I think back to like FF-X was the game that launched PS2 off
hoary olive
PS exclusives were soo good before, now they suck
rugged root
I just went to being a console player because I just want to be able to sit down and play.
Don't have to worry about connection, want to chill
Press button, shoot zombies
wanton spruce
Sonic The Hedgehog was a game reason enough to buy the Sega
hoary olive
BO2 zombies ❤️
sharp urchin
Press button, shoot zombies
plants vs zombies!
rugged root
Back4Blood this time
wanton spruce
Super Mario Bro.s was a game enough to buy a NES
hoary olive
Back4Blood? who plays that nowadays
rugged root
Never been good at fighters
hoary olive
mortal combat is very nice
rugged root
I'm like really bad
hoary olive
but not as fun as zombies
sharp urchin
nostalgia
hoary olive
black ops 2 zombies were just on another level
sharp urchin
all time best mario
rugged root
Back in a sec, need to concentrate on knocking this mileage sheet out
hoary olive
The last of us is also very nice Hem, if you want also story mode
arguably the best game i have ever played
sweet lodge
Don't
rugged root
The last of us is also very nice Hem, if you want also story mode
Fuck yes, played the hell out of them
sweet lodge
Responsible devs say NO to multi-cloud
hoary olive
the last of us film was actually very decent , never expected such a thing
unreal hazel
2 hours every 30 days??
velvet tartan
unreal hazel
at least a few hours per day is reasonable
real viper
Can someone get on a voicecall with me for some help? I cant access the voice channels but I genuinely need guidance
Feel free to dm please
sweet lodge
Can someone get on a voicecall with me for some help? I cant access the voice ch...
We don't do that here
sweet lodge
Can someone get on a voicecall with me for some help? I cant access the voice ch...
Have you tried posting your problem in #1035199133436354600 ?
sick onyx
Can someone get on a voicecall with me for some help? I cant access the voice ch...
same here lol
but whats ur problem about ?
real viper
First of all
I mega fucked up and just realized my million dollar idea will very likely get stolen
sick onyx
lets hop in vc's channel
real viper
Because I revealed it to someone that now will hire a proffessional and I have been struggling with even starting the beggining of it
sick onyx
we r disturbing people here
hoary olive
Steam support alone is a fing hassle
compare steam support to epic games support
and steam support is way more official
i presume they pay a lot for steam support
steam also has good deals
i have seen 70$ games go to 5$
wanton spruce
Epic games has 1-2 free games every week or so...Ive gotten some great games FOR FREE
unreal hazel
battlefront 2 is epic
hoary olive
its OK
unreal hazel
EA always abandons the good games
sweet lodge
EA abandons everything
unreal hazel
fr
hoary olive
but man compared fifa 17 and fifa 19, they genuinely used to work on their games
now compared fifa 21 and 23
sweet lodge
@final crane we can hear your typing
Mute when you're not talking please
unreal hazel
seems like now they just copy paste the same codebase and change the number
hoary olive
they don't
they change a lot
but nothing that actually makes a very useful difference, in fifa 17 passing mechanic sucked. fifa 18 passing mechanic really completely fixed it. and im sure fifa 23 passing mechanic is based on fifa 18. but nowadays its just adding players and publishing its games
rugged root
Are people wanting to see it?
sweet lodge
Are people wanting to see it?
We don't even know what it is
Noones asked, he just wants it
rugged root
unreal hazel
Noones asked, he just wants it
rugged root
Wait, were you even alive when he was in office?
unreal hazel
no
sweet lodge
https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-did-i-ask-i-asked-meme-get-real-gif-21114957
No you didn't
You're too neurotic to talk
velvet urchin
x^2 - 1 = 0
rugged root
@velvet urchin Sup
unreal hazel
sweet lodge
Why
wise cargoBOT
✅ @final crane can now stream until <t:1675276996:f>.
sweet lodge
!stream <@492010589409771530>
NOOOOOO
velvet urchin
How've you been
A lot of work + school + teaching thanks for asking
rugged root
Oh you're a teacher? What subject and grade level, if I may ask
unreal hazel
@final crane is it just a frontend or is it a whole app that actually works?
velvet urchin
Oh you're a teacher? What subject and grade level, if I may ask
university C programming but I am more of a tutor then a teacher
if that makes sense
velvet urchin
it's fun but hard to watch them struggle
them being students
they struggle but they are afraid to ask for help
rugged root
Yeah but you live for that lightbulb moment, you know?
Seeing it on their face when they get it
rugged root
Just remember that you gave them the tools they needed. The rest is on them
sweet lodge
Seeing it on their face when they *get* it
zenith radish
<@82578210453192704> Such a toolbag
.uwuwize
viscid lagoonBOT
@zenith radish such a toowbag
rugged root
Well, shit
This is bad
I didn't know I was supposed to get the check templates from another firm in that we're getting some clients from
God damn it
stuck furnace
Probationary period?
rugged root
Always have a backup plan
It's just logical
@mild quartz Drugs
Starting a company is still going to need a lot of work
I'm with Anokhi on this
Contribute yes, not starting a business
Have fun
rain hawk
Is there a way to convert date to days and vice versa?
example: 60 days from now = 2023-04-02
rugged root
I think people really really really underestimate what's needed for starting a business
rain hawk
Is there a way to convert date to days and vice versa?
example: 60 days from no...
I know this is off topic for the convo, but general was too busy
sweet lodge
Is there a way to convert date to days and vice versa?
example: 60 days from no...
I don't remember how off the top of my head
We don't really do much code in the voice channels
Have you tried asking in #python-discussion or #1035199133436354600?
rain hawk
I don't remember how off the top of my head
We don't really do much code in the ...
I tried general.
limpid umbra
does the show , Silicon Valley , show valid problems/situations in a typical startup?
rugged root
Is there a way to convert date to days and vice versa?
example: 60 days from no...
I think pendulum has something like that
!pypi pendulum
wise cargoBOT
rain hawk
I think pendulum has something like that
Thanks. I'll check it out
sweet lodge
I think pendulum has something like that
You can add days to the builtin datetime
rugged root
You can, but pendulum just makes it so much cleaner to deal with
sweet lodge
No need for libraries for checking dates
rugged root
I'm saying for ease of conversion
sweet lodge
literally the exact same for the suggested use case
I'm just being beligerent
But it is
zenith radish
rain hawk
You can add days to the builtin datetime
from datetime import datetime, timedelta
this was all I needed
sweet lodge
Social media really has made it a whole lot easier to embarrass yourself in public
rain hawk
from datetime import datetime, timedelta
this was all I needed
min_expiry = (datetime.now() + timedelta(days=20)).strftime("%Y-%m-%d")
20 days from now ^^
sweet lodge
me too
pale panther
Ubuntu just works.
I haven't seen the need to move to another distro unless maybe you might give insights . @zenith radish
sweet lodge
If you don't use Arch BTW you're not a real Linux user 
pale panther
😅 whats the difference?
hoary olive
arch is nice
pale panther
In my opinion, most 'Senior' Devs i know dont use ubuntu.
You'd find them using linux mint or something..
I just wanted know why the different flavours in linux distros @zenith radish @sweet lodge
hoary olive
debain is better
pale panther
debain is better
why? just asking
hoary olive
simplicity
i have never broken a mint installation
i have broken over 30 arch installations
sweet lodge
i have never broken a mint installation
I have
sweet lodge
i have broken over 30 arch installations
I've done that too
If you tinker with enough crap, something will give way
hoary olive
i once installed manjaro, and immediately forgot my password. i reinstalled manjaro ....
doesnt maro use debain bullsye ?
rugged root
Why would the client crash on Debian and not Ubuntu, because like you said they're very similar
sweet lodge
Why would the client crash on Debian and not Ubuntu, because like you said they'...
Depends
Why did it crash?
hoary olive
electron to the rescue
hoary olive
debain is weird.
rugged root
Ah, fair
hoary olive
i find it to be less compatible than ubuntu, fedora, mint , etc...
rugged root
M'distro -tips hat-
hoary olive
you are using snap????
rugged root
Oh snap update
hoary olive
why arent you installing the official image
whole bear
so apparently were supposed to chat 50 times to get voice "• You have sent less than 50 messages.
• You have been active for fewer than 3 ten-minute blocks."
zenith radish
<@82578210453192704> SO glad we get to be that punching bag
stop being wrong all of the time then
I'll find wronger people to yell at
rugged root
so apparently were supposed to chat 50 times to get voice "• You have sent less ...
Yep. It's supposed to encourage engagement with the community
zenith radish
Yep. It's supposed to encourage engagement with the community
.uwuwize
viscid lagoonBOT
yep. it's supposed to encouwage engagement with the c-community
rugged root
And kind of prove that someone isn't just spamming their way to victory
@pallid hazel Bad
Go stand in the corner
pallid hazel
:%
whole bear
@zenith radish You should start a podcast
hoary olive
uwuwize ?
rain hawk
<@82578210453192704> You should start a podcast
This channel is his podcast lol
hoary olive
i feel like theres some echo
pale panther
Go vs python..
i am getting alot of pressure from the go community, is it worth a try? @molten pewter
hoary olive
yep, its concurrency is very powerful, language sucks imo
but lps uses it alot , and always argues about it being good
dont like the language myself.
rugged root
It's decent for small to mid
pale panther
@hoary olive can python match its performance ?
pale panther
@rugged root makes sense..
hoary olive
<@867080076754681867> can python match its performance ?
i am neither a python nor a go developer. so i cant really talk alot. i don't think so myself. Go is Very Fast. And its Concurrency is even faster. I used to get 14ms pings on my backend apis. python cant do that
whole bear
so Go is easier to use than Python?
hoary olive
I like java
hoary olive
so Go is easier to use than Python?
Yes. But they are both very easy
go has a poor language design in my opinion
pale panther
i use python for web dev.
its good honestly.
still exploring its ins and out
rugged root
<@98195144192331776> makes sense..
There's a few libraries/frameworks/whatever they're considered that specialize in API. FastAPI, Starlette and Starlite
hoary olive
it sucks to deal with OOP when starting out
rugged root
There's others as well
Those are just the main ones that come to mind
@molten pewter Potentially not as fast but likely easier to slap together since it's built entirely around concurrency and web stoof
All of those benchmark sites should be taken with a grain of salt
hoary olive
yup
java performs better in leet code, than rust, even faster than C++ (Binary search)
rugged root
They don't always accurately (or at all in some cases) show numbers for real life cases or in situ
I forgot what the hell I was doing
Halp
hoary olive
cloudfare uses Go aswell
molten pewter
rugged root
Well yeah
hoary olive
i thought haskell was fast
rugged root
Those numbers m- wait what the fuck is nim doing at the top
What?
Compiled language with similar syntax to Python
Lives up to that it seems
I hear they have a lot of secrets, though
The Secrets of Nim
hoary olive
its not the fbi
rugged root
4
But again, this is not really a great measure of anything
How often do you need to calculate pi in that way
I'm curious about it
Just not enough to actually give a damn
Fair
hoary olive
mossy cedar
wth?
hoary olive
this is nice though
mossy cedar
this is nice though
lemi check
whole bear
ChatGPT is still at capacity oof
mossy cedar
ChatGPT is still at capacity oof
it only makes my stuff easier
stuck furnace
Hey @molten pewter What issue are you having? 👀
molten pewter
stuck furnace
@ionic ferry Just so I understand the problem better... you need to install a package and its dependencies on a device which is not connected to the internet, and to do so you need to recursively list out the dependencies of that package to know what to install?
Would it be possible to create a Docker image, and deploy that instead?
rugged root
@ionic ferry Sup
I'm alright, 'bout yourself?
Same
Feel like I don't have one anymore
I cannot wait until I have my office back
stuck furnace
This might be what you're looking for @ionic ferry https://stackoverflow.com/a/65722427/2846495
Is the computer with internet access the same OS/architecture as the server?
Sure
!stream 277886690197110784 "30 mins"
wise cargoBOT
stuck furnace
;-;
rugged root
30M
stuck furnace
!stream 277886690197110784 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @ionic ferry can now stream until <t:1675283667:f>.
stuck furnace
🤞
stuck furnace
Is setuptools in the requirements.txt?
You may have to manually install setuptools first.
gentle flint
it's in every python install isn't it
stuck furnace
I do this too infrequently to remember sorry.
amber raptor
you know you can copy containers to offline servers to be run
gentle flint
by default
molten pewter
stuck furnace
Rabbit probably knows better tbh.
amber raptor
the problem is "I have offline server I need to run Python app" on right?
stuck furnace
Yeah pretty much
stuck furnace
Ah apparently they can't use docker.
amber raptor
RIP
stuck furnace
Rabbit can't hear you btw @ionic ferry
amber raptor
I'm muted and deafened because I'm on another meeting
rugged root
Welcome back rab
stuck furnace
@uncut meteor I recommended following the instructions here, but they get a dependency error saying setuptools isn't available: https://stackoverflow.com/a/65722427/2846495
amber raptor
At this point, I'm looking to screen and going "This is insane, pass trying to get this working"
pyinstaller would be an option I guess
stuck furnace
As in literally copy the venv folder over?
river thistle
check your requirement.txt and remove all the version no.
stuck furnace
The docs are actually pretty good: https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/
uncut meteor
set PYTHONPATH=<copiedthing>
ivory stump
!stream 277886690197110784 30M
wise cargoBOT
✅ @ionic ferry can now stream until <t:1675285471:f>.
ivory stump
(Was gonna end in under a min)
gentle flint
thought that didn't matter
once they start a stream they can keep streaming
losing the role doesn't automatically kill their stream
gentle flint
the wording is confusing, I admit
the bot should really say "can start a stream until xyz"
stuck furnace
Understanding the semantics of the language are more important yeah.
if you want to learn Django.
rugged root
What matters is just picking one and sticking with it for a project, honestly. I run into the issue where I get sucked into looking at all the possible languages or frameworks but I never get anything done
It may abstract that away
Not sure
JSX is pretty nice
I'm enjoying it as a hobby, personally
Basstronaut
I want to send fish into space
amber raptor
I want to send fish into space
Factorio will let you do this
pallid hazel
hemster, can you check my helpchannel and tell me which main chat would be the best fit?
https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1070443117968371782
pallid hazel
ill give it shot in the channel
rugged root
Always a good premise
Sure, but it's their platform
@civic zephyr Dude whatever plate or glass noise you're making is super loud through the mic
Please be careful about that
You'd need logs of some kind
Then don't play it
All good, just letting you know, brother
pallid hazel
updated. hope it helps
rugged root
@terse needle Peace out
1's and 0's and inits
You're welcome
Dude I swear to god something is wrong with my hands. I never make this many typos
It's been happening a lot recently
quasi condor
Dude I swear to god something is wrong with my hands. I never make this many ty...
Hairy palms.
quasi condor
However you justify your habit
rugged root
I need justification
Sometimes that's what it takes, just restating the issue
Good ol' rubber ducky
Quack
I'm going to go crazy
I can't fucking find a client file to so I can test and try to replicate this issue
Just can't win
Big money no wammy...
Or is it Whammy....
Ah, it is with an h
ionic ferry
@rugged root thanks for screen sharing permission 🙂
@uncut meteor thanks for your support 🙂
terse needle
1's and 0's and inits
1's and 0's innit
dense ibex
!paste
wise cargoBOT
dense ibex
velvet tartan
- left, right = None, None
- left = right = None
somber heath
@short pewter 👋
short pewter
<@194641618198986752> 👋
👋
wanton spruce
I use PyCharm as well
I'm very much a beginner so it works for me to readily know errors and correct formating of code
wanton spruce
don't spam please
jolly terrace
ok
wanton spruce
you ALSO need to be in the server for 3 days at least
jolly terrace
you ALSO need to be in the server for 3 days at least
oh my goddddd
wanton spruce
im the same, but I have patience and listen in to learn
short pewter
im just listening to see if I can pick anything up
wanton spruce
I used to use Visual Basic a bunch which is very GUI based yeah
As a beginner, I just finished learning all the basics and made a working code to calculate relative sizes between objects. Starting small 🙂
fiery ridge
👋
short pewter
bye!
somber heath
@final agate 👋
wintry path
hey @somber heath
final agate
hey @wintry path
somber heath
@molten fractal 👋
molten fractal
<@842286272969834516> 👋
hi
molten fractal
<@842286272969834516> 👋
english?
somber heath
!voice
wise cargoBOT
wise cargoBOT
molten fractal
i should complete the verification process to talk in voice sorry
yeah i will talk by text hehe
about me i am a undergraduate student studying computer science and yeah i love to code in python..
eager to learn ML so need some resources
okay
somber heath
@chrome dagger 👋
golden sonnet
i have no idea what u saying 😂
somber heath
I was relating a story where someone I did a concert with did the best Gollum/Smeagol impression I'd ever heard.
In the style of Andy Serkis.
somber heath
LIke when you came in, I was thinking, "Sneasky! Tricksy! FALSE!"
wanton spruce
Heya
somber heath
He did the "Stupid, FAT hobbit!" line
wanton spruce
Still waiting for my mic to open up, maybe today is the day
golden sonnet
LIke when you came in, I was thinking, "Sneasky! Tricksy! FALSE!"
😁
somber heath
The way he did it, you could just hear the "FAT" as like the very thing the word was describing.
golden sonnet
Still waiting for my mic to open up, maybe today is the day
spam the varification chat until u get it
wanton spruce
proud I finished my first python puzzle
returning 'True' if a list of numbers contains exactly a pair of 19's as well as at least a trio of 15's
somber heath
spam the varification chat until u get it
Let's not lead others into temptation.
golden sonnet
proud I finished my first python puzzle
returning 'True' if a list of numbers co...
loop or regex?
wanton spruce
spam the varification chat until u get it
im patient, not that anxious to voice reveal lol
wanton spruce
loop or regex?
just a simple for loop
golden sonnet
for loop is good
sharp urchin
hello
wanton spruce
but what is regex?
golden sonnet
regular expression
golden sonnet
it has a module but it's more of a technic to find stuff
wanton spruce
One thing id really like on this server is maybe a 'learning center' where noobs/beginners/novices can group together to work on something
somber heath
Regex is a pattern matching syntax for text. It's very well-suited to its purpose and completely inscrutable.
golden sonnet
tho needs a little nerv to learn
somber heath
Until you learn it then it isn't.
wanton spruce
well ill stick with the for loop for simple tasks until i learn more 😄
somber heath
!d collections.Counter
wise cargoBOT
somber heath
!e ```py
import collections
data = [1, 6, 3, 19, 19, 15, 45, 15, 4, 9, 15]
count = collections.Counter(data)
print(count)```
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
Counter({15: 3, 19: 2, 1: 1, 6: 1, 3: 1, 45: 1, 4: 1, 9: 1})
!d dict.get
wise cargoBOT
wanton spruce
def list_calc(nums_list):
list_cont = nums_list
five_count = 0
nineteen_count = 0
for i in list_cont:
if i == 5: five_count += 1
elif i == 19: nineteen_count += 1
print(list_cont)
if five_count >= 3 and nineteen_count == 2:
print('True')
else:
print('False')
list_calc([5,20,42,5,7,12,5,5,19,19])
this was what i did
somber heath
!e py d = {15: 3, 2: 1} print(d.get(15, 0)) print(d.get(5, 0))
wise cargoBOT
@somber heath :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 3
002 | 0
(The object you get back from a collections.Counter call is a dict-like.)
golden sonnet
```python
def list_calc(nums_list):
list_cont = nums_list
five_count = 0...
looks decent
final agate
hey
golden sonnet
u don't need this tho
list_cont = nums_list
wise cargoBOT
wanton spruce
u don't need this tho
`list_cont = nums_list`
yeah need 3 days in the server as well
wanton spruce
verifying that you aren't A.I. art
sharp urchin
hello
sharp urchin
scream is good
agree but MR. hemlock :{ doesnt get it
wanton spruce
def list_calc(nums_list):
five_count = 0
nineteen_count = 0
for i in nums_list:
if i == 5: five_count += 1
elif i == 19: nineteen_count += 1
print(nums_list)
if five_count >= 3 and nineteen_count == 2:
print('True')
else:
print('False')
list_calc([5,20,42,5,7,12,5,5,19,19])
@golden sonnet thanks
wanton spruce
for whatever reasons, PyCharm was screaming at me about the function arg not being used
its just a simple puzzle so i wasnt going for complex solutions
golden sonnet
i don't really have much exp with * and ** so can't tell really
wanton spruce
ive had to click 'ignore' on several minor thins in PyCharm, it's default settings are very intrusive lol
golden sonnet
but vs code doesn't have enough
wanton spruce
but i know as i keep using it, i can keep changing it to make it workable
I'm not a student, just learning python code as my mid-life crisis lol
golden sonnet
python is a lovely language
wanton spruce
a car is whatever, learning something new is invaluable
python is great and from what i hear is easier to transfer to other languages once you understand the concepts
golden sonnet
like in some languages you need 2 or 3 line of code just to print "hello world"
sharp urchin
like in some languages you need 2 or 3 line of code just to print "hello world"
ever heard of c++?
:{}
golden sonnet
ever heard of c++?
am yet to see c++ codes
golden sonnet
🙂
sharp urchin
OOPs
wanton spruce
yeah c#, c++ you have to do a lot of 'world building' before you even get to do what you want
wanton spruce
my impression so far:
Javascript = 👍
Java = 👎
sharp urchin
agree
sharp urchin
go ahead
its gud was planning the same
either i go deep in ML or other deep courses
or learn some new lang
golden sonnet
rust is also popular here
wanton spruce
i was thinking of that being my next step myself
sharp urchin
someone's mic:{
golden sonnet
i probably take a look at it when i'm done with python
strange dragon
someone's mic:{
sorry its a cheap one 😅
sharp urchin
sorry its a cheap one 😅
its fine
you can always have a push to talk button
go in settings
golden sonnet
be a chad
send message with smoke
sharp urchin
search for voice and video
wanton spruce
it's a hot topic
strange dragon
just need enough money to buy another one
why tho?
strange dragon
tc
wanton spruce
I'll be leaving soon, thanks for chats
somber heath
@whole bear👋
wanton spruce
👍
somber heath
@drifting mason 👋
strange dragon
bye tc
drifting mason
Hello guys
strange dragon
hii
sharp urchin
opal shd apply for a role -"voice verifier /helper"
yes:)
you did help me as well
i remember
strange dragon
me 2!
does anyone's python assignment tell u to recreate dictionary and list methods?
humble owl
hello
somber heath
@humble owl 👋
humble owl
im currently in my 2yr undergrad pursuing cse
would you recommend some fundamental skills i need to equip with
strange dragon
💀 it didnt say anything but that lol
i made simple functions and passed in value references of lists and dicts..then did the some basic operations on it..
humble owl
just ignore up the following messages as i'm gonna just use a cheat to be able to talk
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @humble owl until <t:1675344016:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst rule: sent 8 messages in 10s).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
candid panther
!tvmute 944808571550457878 "2 weeks" Spamming messages to up your message count is not the way to get voice verified. You can still join voice channels without being verified; you just have to get some legitimate server activity in order to get verified.
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @humble owl until <t:1676553107:f> (14 days).
candid panther
!unmute 944808571550457878
wise cargoBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction mute for @humble owl.
humble owl
i just made things worse for me
strange dragon
his voice was taken rip
strange dragon
nelde?
humble owl
melburn art ?
what does that mean by?
Oooo
we might be aligned with our thoughts or vibe though
so here this thing
i had data structures in c
foundation of data science in python
in the prev sem
in the upcoming sem
ill be having algo
ai nd ml
somber heath
humble owl
under which area these channels are posted in the server
yea thank
what's your take on nptel course for it
like wait a sec i'll share the link
https://archive.nptel.ac.in/courses/106/106/106106212/ data science in python
so basically as this mit has their own spectrum of medium
in edx and stuffs
nptel courses are offered by iit
ok cool i just need to pick someone up
ill be back in 20 mins
need a lot of insight in various aspect
orienting with how to improve as a person in the carrier aspect
and build my profile
hope you would be okay with that to help
I'm awaiting your permission to leave for now
somber heath
My sphere of expertise, such as it is, lays with the Python programming language.
humble owl
ive doubts or need insight into that aspect as well
somber heath
More specifically, I use Python to make pretty pictures.
humble owl
dall e kinda project?
somber heath
I'm largely self-taught and my insights into the professional world of computers is limited.
humble owl
I'm awaiting your permission to leave for now
..
somber heath
dall e kinda project?
No.
humble owl
I'm largely self-taught and my insights into the professional world of computers...
i would love to talk and learn more
somber heath
You do not require my permission to leave.
somber heath
If there is a person incapacitated on the road and you are able to rescue them safely, you should do so.
humble owl
you may not accept my req but i'll leave a message over here just to be able to talk with ya
humble owl
If there is a person incapacitated on the road and you are able to rescue them s...
thank you !
somber heath
I will not accept it.
humble owl
ayo why you doin this to me
somber heath
I'm under no obligation.